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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2006/06/29/otteau-report-june-2006/#comment-19629</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peaknic-
when you say you have given up 1-2 years of gain 

-is it 2005 + 2004 gains?

or 

- 2006 &amp; 2005 gains?</description>
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when you say you have given up 1-2 years of gain </p>
<p>-is it 2005 + 2004 gains?</p>
<p>or </p>
<p>- 2006 &amp; 2005 gains?</p>
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		<title>By: peaknic</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2006/06/29/otteau-report-june-2006/#comment-19628</link>
		<dc:creator>peaknic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve been following this blog for 10 months and I&#039;ve finally gotten my act together to put my townhouse on the market.  Prices in my area (Parsippany) have not gone down at all yet.  I priced it 10% below anything else in the development and have gotten 10 walk throughs in the first week and one lowball offer that was another 10% below asking, but I didn&#039;t bite.  The folks making the offer were from Arizona, where the market has totally tanked, so they are skittish to buy at all and said they&#039;d rather rent then over pay.

I&#039;m planning to rent in the area, so I&#039;m not in any rush.  It&#039;s one thing to give up 1-2 years of appreciation, which I&#039;ve already priced in.  It&#039;s another to give away my place for 100K less than what  similar places have recently gone for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve been following this blog for 10 months and I&#8217;ve finally gotten my act together to put my townhouse on the market.  Prices in my area (Parsippany) have not gone down at all yet.  I priced it 10% below anything else in the development and have gotten 10 walk throughs in the first week and one lowball offer that was another 10% below asking, but I didn&#8217;t bite.  The folks making the offer were from Arizona, where the market has totally tanked, so they are skittish to buy at all and said they&#8217;d rather rent then over pay.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m planning to rent in the area, so I&#8217;m not in any rush.  It&#8217;s one thing to give up 1-2 years of appreciation, which I&#8217;ve already priced in.  It&#8217;s another to give away my place for 100K less than what  similar places have recently gone for.</p>
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		<title>By: rymingrealtor</title>
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		<dc:creator>rymingrealtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>{{{{The 600k houses are dropping into the 500&#039;s, the 500&#039;s are dropping into the high 400&#039;s , with 499 seeming to be the hot new asking price, meanwhile the 400&#039;s are dropping into the low 400&#039;s, and the low 400&#039;s are now finally starting to drop into the high 300&#039;s. The point of all of this is that simply is that asking prices are dropping, houses with a 300K nandle have not been seen in my area since 2003.}}}

Delford,

Would you please tell us your area, I would like to check it on the mls. 
Thank you 
KL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{{{{The 600k houses are dropping into the 500&#8242;s, the 500&#8242;s are dropping into the high 400&#8242;s , with 499 seeming to be the hot new asking price, meanwhile the 400&#8242;s are dropping into the low 400&#8242;s, and the low 400&#8242;s are now finally starting to drop into the high 300&#8242;s. The point of all of this is that simply is that asking prices are dropping, houses with a 300K nandle have not been seen in my area since 2003.}}}</p>
<p>Delford,</p>
<p>Would you please tell us your area, I would like to check it on the mls.<br />
Thank you<br />
KL</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unrealtor:
Here. Go get facts from the horse&#039;s mouth.

http://www.poconocommuter.com/AboutUs.html

I&#039;m from there, and while I know some crime has come in with the commuters (bringing money, of course attract drugs) I always gotta stick up a little for the underdog that is NEPA.

Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unrealtor:<br />
Here. Go get facts from the horse&#8217;s mouth.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.poconocommuter.com/AboutUs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.poconocommuter.com/AboutUs.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m from there, and while I know some crime has come in with the commuters (bringing money, of course attract drugs) I always gotta stick up a little for the underdog that is NEPA.</p>
<p>Pat</p>
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		<title>By: UnRealtor</title>
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		<dc:creator>UnRealtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delford, scary stuff, thanks for the update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delford, scary stuff, thanks for the update.</p>
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		<title>By: delford</title>
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		<dc:creator>delford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the Poconos and the train, do not, I repeat do not hold your breath.

I had realtives who used to live ther, boughtback in the early 80&#039;s.

One of the big selling points was the fact the train was cloming, and that was in 1983!!, and of courrse still no train.

He did the commute for a few years to Wall Strre and it killed hime, everntualy ended up back in NJ much closer to work.

Also the NY Times did an article on the Poconos a while back, on the huge amount of foreclosures in the area, as the developers made a huge pitch to lower income people from NY % NJ who ccoule never really afford the homes to begin with.

Also gang violence ete. etc. people refer to it now as the ghetto in the woods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the Poconos and the train, do not, I repeat do not hold your breath.</p>
<p>I had realtives who used to live ther, boughtback in the early 80&#8242;s.</p>
<p>One of the big selling points was the fact the train was cloming, and that was in 1983!!, and of courrse still no train.</p>
<p>He did the commute for a few years to Wall Strre and it killed hime, everntualy ended up back in NJ much closer to work.</p>
<p>Also the NY Times did an article on the Poconos a while back, on the huge amount of foreclosures in the area, as the developers made a huge pitch to lower income people from NY % NJ who ccoule never really afford the homes to begin with.</p>
<p>Also gang violence ete. etc. people refer to it now as the ghetto in the woods.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unrealtor 

Americans are spending hundreds of thousands on land, a resource that is plentiful.  We should be using that money to buy the world but instead the world is buying up America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unrealtor </p>
<p>Americans are spending hundreds of thousands on land, a resource that is plentiful.  We should be using that money to buy the world but instead the world is buying up America.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unrealtor..the developments in the Poconos that have the 6:00 am express buses directly to NYC are pretty popular.

Some people can hack the commute for a while, others no.   

An odd phenomenon recently is that some NNJ/NYkers are actually getting jobs if they can, up there, or setting up businesses.

So, I guess on these remote homesteading projects, the risk is that the settlers go native. 

Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unrealtor..the developments in the Poconos that have the 6:00 am express buses directly to NYC are pretty popular.</p>
<p>Some people can hack the commute for a while, others no.   </p>
<p>An odd phenomenon recently is that some NNJ/NYkers are actually getting jobs if they can, up there, or setting up businesses.</p>
<p>So, I guess on these remote homesteading projects, the risk is that the settlers go native. </p>
<p>Pat</p>
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		<title>By: UnRealtor</title>
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		<dc:creator>UnRealtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;I always wonder why we cannot invest in building new cities about 50-100 miles west(north-west) of New York and build &#039;super&#039; train networks/roads between them.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;


Exactly this has been proposed for the Poconos area.  Not sure where things stand now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I always wonder why we cannot invest in building new cities about 50-100 miles west(north-west) of New York and build &#8216;super&#8217; train networks/roads between them.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Exactly this has been proposed for the Poconos area.  Not sure where things stand now.</p>
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		<title>By: delford</title>
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		<dc:creator>delford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some rnadom thoughts here on some of the posts.

No area is immune to rising interest rates, no area, that is a fact. The high high end in Bergen Co s absolutely dead. In my own zip code, the market is dead across the board, and what I predicted would happen is happening.

The 600k houses are  dropping into the 500&#039;s, the 500&#039;s are dropping into the high 400&#039;s , with 499 seeming to be the hot new asking price, meanwhile the 400&#039;s are dropping into the low 400&#039;s, and the low 400&#039;s are now finally starting to drop into the high 300&#039;s. The point of all of this is that simply is that asking prices are dropping, houses with a 300K nandle have not been seen in my area since 2003.

Meanwhile inventory in my area increases with at least one new listing a day, earlier this week we had 4 in one day. Increasing inventory, decreasing asking prices, nothing selling, and we are now into July.

Finally do not worry about insulting sellers, what does that mean any how, and if they are insulted, tell em you are insulted by their  high asking price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some rnadom thoughts here on some of the posts.</p>
<p>No area is immune to rising interest rates, no area, that is a fact. The high high end in Bergen Co s absolutely dead. In my own zip code, the market is dead across the board, and what I predicted would happen is happening.</p>
<p>The 600k houses are  dropping into the 500&#8242;s, the 500&#8242;s are dropping into the high 400&#8242;s , with 499 seeming to be the hot new asking price, meanwhile the 400&#8242;s are dropping into the low 400&#8242;s, and the low 400&#8242;s are now finally starting to drop into the high 300&#8242;s. The point of all of this is that simply is that asking prices are dropping, houses with a 300K nandle have not been seen in my area since 2003.</p>
<p>Meanwhile inventory in my area increases with at least one new listing a day, earlier this week we had 4 in one day. Increasing inventory, decreasing asking prices, nothing selling, and we are now into July.</p>
<p>Finally do not worry about insulting sellers, what does that mean any how, and if they are insulted, tell em you are insulted by their  high asking price.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats just it, most sellers bought with in the last 2 years hoping to make a quick buck on the resale.

That plan ain&#039;t working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats just it, most sellers bought with in the last 2 years hoping to make a quick buck on the resale.</p>
<p>That plan ain&#8217;t working.</p>
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		<title>By: skep-tic</title>
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		<dc:creator>skep-tic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many sellers will choose to wallow in self-pity, but the fact is that even if you only bought 5 years ago, you could probably sell today and still make 70-80%.

many will come to regret their greed in trying to extract that small extra gain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many sellers will choose to wallow in self-pity, but the fact is that even if you only bought 5 years ago, you could probably sell today and still make 70-80%.</p>
<p>many will come to regret their greed in trying to extract that small extra gain</p>
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		<title>By: grim</title>
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		<dc:creator>grim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like RentingInNJ said above, the Otteau organization is attempting to walk a very thin line.

They are not unbiased observers, nor can they risk alienating their client base.

The April report was incredibly bearish:

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://nnjbubble.blogspot.com/2006/06/otteau-report-may-2006.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;April Otteau Report&lt;/A&gt;

I&#039;m wondering if the Otteau organization took some slack for that piece, heck it gave me chills.

Not to disect the Otteau report as if it were the a Fed statement, but you can not overlook this line:

&lt;I&gt;As a result, some of the increases in home prices which occurred over the past several years will likely be reversed as motivated Sellers trade-off lower prices for quicker sales.&lt;/I&gt;

Otteau seems to be calling for the reversal of &quot;several years&quot; of price gains.  Most surprising indeed.

grim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like RentingInNJ said above, the Otteau organization is attempting to walk a very thin line.</p>
<p>They are not unbiased observers, nor can they risk alienating their client base.</p>
<p>The April report was incredibly bearish:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://nnjbubble.blogspot.com/2006/06/otteau-report-may-2006.html" rel="nofollow">April Otteau Report</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the Otteau organization took some slack for that piece, heck it gave me chills.</p>
<p>Not to disect the Otteau report as if it were the a Fed statement, but you can not overlook this line:</p>
<p><i>As a result, some of the increases in home prices which occurred over the past several years will likely be reversed as motivated Sellers trade-off lower prices for quicker sales.</i></p>
<p>Otteau seems to be calling for the reversal of &#8220;several years&#8221; of price gains.  Most surprising indeed.</p>
<p>grim</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>imagine the nerve,buy now
another shill for the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imagine the nerve,buy now<br />
another shill for the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spoke to a realtor in
bergen yesterday.

Crossword puzzle books
being worked on at will.

He mentioned business is
dead. Not even lookers 
and he said open houses
are a waste of time.

Indicated that the buyers have caught on and the offers are so
low that sellers are insulted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spoke to a realtor in<br />
bergen yesterday.</p>
<p>Crossword puzzle books<br />
being worked on at will.</p>
<p>He mentioned business is<br />
dead. Not even lookers<br />
and he said open houses<br />
are a waste of time.</p>
<p>Indicated that the buyers have caught on and the offers are so<br />
low that sellers are insulted.</p>
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