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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: R Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to sound like Lerah but so Fort Lee is still immune? Or this shows only the SFH ( all 200 od them ) and not the 5000-10000 condo and co op units in town?

I&#039;m a single guy don&#039;t need a house yet, why pay 6K in taxes for a whole bunch of rooms I don&#039;t need yet. But I would like to upgrade from this studio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to sound like Lerah but so Fort Lee is still immune? Or this shows only the SFH ( all 200 od them ) and not the 5000-10000 condo and co op units in town?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a single guy don&#8217;t need a house yet, why pay 6K in taxes for a whole bunch of rooms I don&#8217;t need yet. But I would like to upgrade from this studio</p>
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		<title>By: chicagofinance</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicagofinance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you wish to insult grim you do not need an intermediary in those types of situations.  You may do so directly in the threads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you wish to insult grim you do not need an intermediary in those types of situations.  You may do so directly in the threads.</p>
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		<title>By: James Bednar</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bednar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem at all, I&#039;m just trying to keep everything under control.  I&#039;ve had issues in the past with agents and mortgage brokers spamming.

I typically ask to be the intermediary in those types of situations, which is why I posted the following above:

&lt;i&gt;homebuyer,

You can email me at jamesbednar at gmail.com and I’ll forward that information on.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem at all, I&#8217;m just trying to keep everything under control.  I&#8217;ve had issues in the past with agents and mortgage brokers spamming.</p>
<p>I typically ask to be the intermediary in those types of situations, which is why I posted the following above:</p>
<p><i>homebuyer,</p>
<p>You can email me at jamesbednar at gmail.com and I’ll forward that information on.</i></p>
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		<title>By: AMS in NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMS in NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please forgive the unintentional transgression. The email was posted in response to the poster, not as a solicitation.  However, in the past I had seen another realtor post her email address, leading to my confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive the unintentional transgression. The email was posted in response to the poster, not as a solicitation.  However, in the past I had seen another realtor post her email address, leading to my confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: UnRealtor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;MLS 2281275 17 Mt. Ararat Road&lt;/I&gt;


I&#039;m familiar with this property.

Here&#039;s the full price history:

&lt;B&gt;Jan 21, 2006 - $759,000&lt;/B&gt; (MLS 2237332)

Mar 24, 2006 - $698,999

May 10, 2006 - $698,998 (dropped price $1)

May 22, 2006 - WITHDRAWN

May 23, 2006 - $639,000 (MLS 2281275)

Jun 13, 2006 - $625,000

Jul 07, 2006 - $595,000

Sep 14, 2006 - $575,000

Sep 19, 2006 - Attorney Review

Sep 26, 2006 - Under Contract

&lt;B&gt;Dec 12, 2006 - Closed @ $563,000&lt;/B&gt;


This one illustrates two things:  Greedy Grubbers will pay dearly for their greed, and flipping properties is a dead industry.

This seller paid $525K for the property in Sept 2005 (MLS 2087215), and then gutted the house, put in a new kitchen, etc, carried the property for a year, and sold at a loss.

It sold for over $200,000 less than original ask price, on a street where houses were selling for $350K only 4 years ago.

Thankfully this insanity has come to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>MLS 2281275 17 Mt. Ararat Road</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m familiar with this property.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the full price history:</p>
<p><b>Jan 21, 2006 &#8211; $759,000</b> (MLS 2237332)</p>
<p>Mar 24, 2006 &#8211; $698,999</p>
<p>May 10, 2006 &#8211; $698,998 (dropped price $1)</p>
<p>May 22, 2006 &#8211; WITHDRAWN</p>
<p>May 23, 2006 &#8211; $639,000 (MLS 2281275)</p>
<p>Jun 13, 2006 &#8211; $625,000</p>
<p>Jul 07, 2006 &#8211; $595,000</p>
<p>Sep 14, 2006 &#8211; $575,000</p>
<p>Sep 19, 2006 &#8211; Attorney Review</p>
<p>Sep 26, 2006 &#8211; Under Contract</p>
<p><b>Dec 12, 2006 &#8211; Closed @ $563,000</b></p>
<p>This one illustrates two things:  Greedy Grubbers will pay dearly for their greed, and flipping properties is a dead industry.</p>
<p>This seller paid $525K for the property in Sept 2005 (MLS 2087215), and then gutted the house, put in a new kitchen, etc, carried the property for a year, and sold at a loss.</p>
<p>It sold for over $200,000 less than original ask price, on a street where houses were selling for $350K only 4 years ago.</p>
<p>Thankfully this insanity has come to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: James Bednar</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bednar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed.

jb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed.</p>
<p>jb</p>
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		<title>By: Rich In NNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich In NNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone else is going to have to &quot;turn it off&quot;? &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone else is going to have to &#8220;turn it off&#8221;? </p>
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		<title>By: James Bednar</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bednar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using this site to establish any kind of relationship between a seller/buyer and an agent/broker is expressly prohibited.

jb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using this site to establish any kind of relationship between a seller/buyer and an agent/broker is expressly prohibited.</p>
<p>jb</p>
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		<title>By: Rich In NNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich In NNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

From your comments in the past you were very bearish on the market.
&lt;i&gt;Richard Says: 
June 25th, 2006 at 10:00 am 
according to DB Global Markets Research $300 billion in ARM resets are happening this year with $1 trillion coming next year. i believe the 2 biggest impacts to the slowing market are these resets combined with rising interests rates putting those people already stretched in a no win situation.
next year we’ll have the same recipe but more of the same ingredients with 3.3x the ARM resets and rates probably at least 75-100bps higher than today. &lt;b&gt;next year is going to be the start of a bloodbath IMO.&lt;/b&gt; if you can wait to buy i’d highly recommend waiting until the spring market and saving up for more downpayment to shield you more from the rising rates.&lt;/i&gt;

Heck, you were even agreeing with Booyaa Bob back then.

But now you&#039;ve been saying buy now. You went from renting to not only buying a home but additional real estate to add to your portfolio?
What market fundamentals have changed for you?

&lt;i&gt;Richard Says: 
June 29th, 2006 at 6:32 pm 
“Apparently the chorus of voices predicting this collapse and the attention they received from the media, have played a role in bringing the market to it’s current state……as always perception becomes reality!
um, really? you think it could more to do with something actually tangible like affordability? idiots.
i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>From your comments in the past you were very bearish on the market.<br />
<i>Richard Says:<br />
June 25th, 2006 at 10:00 am<br />
according to DB Global Markets Research $300 billion in ARM resets are happening this year with $1 trillion coming next year. i believe the 2 biggest impacts to the slowing market are these resets combined with rising interests rates putting those people already stretched in a no win situation.<br />
next year we’ll have the same recipe but more of the same ingredients with 3.3x the ARM resets and rates probably at least 75-100bps higher than today. <b>next year is going to be the start of a bloodbath IMO.</b> if you can wait to buy i’d highly recommend waiting until the spring market and saving up for more downpayment to shield you more from the rising rates.</i></p>
<p>Heck, you were even agreeing with Booyaa Bob back then.</p>
<p>But now you&#8217;ve been saying buy now. You went from renting to not only buying a home but additional real estate to add to your portfolio?<br />
What market fundamentals have changed for you?</p>
<p><i>Richard Says:<br />
June 29th, 2006 at 6:32 pm<br />
“Apparently the chorus of voices predicting this collapse and the attention they received from the media, have played a role in bringing the market to it’s current state……as always perception becomes reality!<br />
um, really? you think it could more to do with something actually tangible like affordability? idiots.<br />
i&gt;</i></p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Why is that so? I thought you were of the opinion that RE has hit bottom… or have you changed your opinion yet again? 

njbear, it&#039;s called diversification.  i don&#039;t need any more RE in my portfolio.  i&#039;m already a bit overweight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Why is that so? I thought you were of the opinion that RE has hit bottom… or have you changed your opinion yet again? </p>
<p>njbear, it&#8217;s called diversification.  i don&#8217;t need any more RE in my portfolio.  i&#8217;m already a bit overweight.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>big change rich?  hardly.  prices have definitely come down a bit from peak.  the market appears to be bottoming so the &#039;2007&#039; i predicted is coming in a bit early + rates have stayed low which has surprised me.  i would have no problem suggesting someone buy now or if you want to wait another couple of months by all means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big change rich?  hardly.  prices have definitely come down a bit from peak.  the market appears to be bottoming so the &#8217;2007&#8242; i predicted is coming in a bit early + rates have stayed low which has surprised me.  i would have no problem suggesting someone buy now or if you want to wait another couple of months by all means.</p>
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		<title>By: BC Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BC Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the DOW is up almost 17% YTD. quite unbelievable if you hang around bear blogs all day.&quot;

Not really. We have been talking about the decline in the dollar for the past year. Multi-nationals are the winners. Not only not unbelievable but predictable. Also, you forgot to mention that gold is up over 20% and will finish 2006 with it&#039;s 6th straight yoy gain. By the way, I won&#039;t even mention what 20% in cash equates to in futures. Don&#039;t want to make your head spin!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the DOW is up almost 17% YTD. quite unbelievable if you hang around bear blogs all day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really. We have been talking about the decline in the dollar for the past year. Multi-nationals are the winners. Not only not unbelievable but predictable. Also, you forgot to mention that gold is up over 20% and will finish 2006 with it&#8217;s 6th straight yoy gain. By the way, I won&#8217;t even mention what 20% in cash equates to in futures. Don&#8217;t want to make your head spin!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich In NNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich In NNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 06:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

Big change in perception...
&lt;i&gt;Richard Says: 
January 23rd, 2006 at 10:28 pm 
everyone, inventory is building up rapidly. there are decent houses on the market at still high but not outrageous asking prices just sitting. this market is coming to a crawl. i expect this week’s home data to show further weakening and this will only continue. as inventory continues to build next stop is lowered prices. sellers haven’t seen a more normalized market in at least 5 years so give it some time to let the reality sink in. if you’re in the market to buy a house, wait until 2007. i’d stake my down payment prices and selection will be better than 2006.&lt;/i&gt;

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Big change in perception&#8230;<br />
<i>Richard Says:<br />
January 23rd, 2006 at 10:28 pm<br />
everyone, inventory is building up rapidly. there are decent houses on the market at still high but not outrageous asking prices just sitting. this market is coming to a crawl. i expect this week’s home data to show further weakening and this will only continue. as inventory continues to build next stop is lowered prices. sellers haven’t seen a more normalized market in at least 5 years so give it some time to let the reality sink in. if you’re in the market to buy a house, wait until 2007. i’d stake my down payment prices and selection will be better than 2006.</i></p>
<p>Rich</p>
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