Comments on: Still no sign of a bottom http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/ Real Estate, Economics, and Politics Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:04:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Ann http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175459 Ann Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:08:27 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175459 286 I don't quite get your post, but here goes. Philly. Yes, everything built during a certain period in Philly looks the same. Street after street of rowhouses for example. New York City. Everything built during the same period looks the same, and some of it is really ugly, like all of those bland high rises they built all over the Upper East Side. There are entire towns in NJ that have hardly anything in certain parts but capes and splits and ranches, ala 1950s. My point is that condemning McMansion neighborhoods because they are "cookie cutter" doesn't make sense to me. There have always been "cookie cutter" neighborhoods. McMansion neighborhoods are just NEW cookie cutter neighborhoods. Now, if we want to talk about the size of McMansions, that's another story 286

I don’t quite get your post, but here goes. Philly. Yes, everything built during a certain period in Philly looks the same. Street after street of rowhouses for example.

New York City. Everything built during the same period looks the same, and some of it is really ugly, like all of those bland high rises they built all over the Upper East Side.

There are entire towns in NJ that have hardly anything in certain parts but capes and splits and ranches, ala 1950s.

My point is that condemning McMansion neighborhoods because they are “cookie cutter” doesn’t make sense to me. There have always been “cookie cutter” neighborhoods. McMansion neighborhoods are just NEW cookie cutter neighborhoods.

Now, if we want to talk about the size of McMansions, that’s another story

]]> By: njpatient http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175443 njpatient Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:33:18 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175443 263 CB "Check out Strawberry Mansion, in Philadelphia, a neighborhood of mansions built 1890-1920s. By the 1960s it was one of the most notorious ghettos in Philadelphia. All those mansions (real mansions, not McMansions) became tenements. It has happened before, why not again? If you could travel back to 1920 and tell people that this area was going to be a slum, they’d've carted you off to the loony bin." While you're in 1920, you should go visit beautiful Harlem. 263 CB
“Check out Strawberry Mansion, in Philadelphia, a neighborhood of mansions built 1890-1920s. By the 1960s it was one of the most notorious ghettos in Philadelphia. All those mansions (real mansions, not McMansions) became tenements. It has happened before, why not again? If you could travel back to 1920 and tell people that this area was going to be a slum, they’d’ve carted you off to the loony bin.”

While you’re in 1920, you should go visit beautiful Harlem.

]]> By: njpatient http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175442 njpatient Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:30:33 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175442 275 Ann "Pretty much all neighborhoods, whatever their age, were “developments” at some point with “cookie cutter designs.”" ? Boston? Anywhere near Boston? Philly? Anywhere near Philly New Orleans? Savannah? Anywhere where the streets were carved out by cows some time ago, or by walls (see, e.g., Manhattan) etc.? Nah. Definitely not "pretty much all." 275 Ann

“Pretty much all neighborhoods, whatever their age, were “developments” at some point with “cookie cutter designs.””

?

Boston?

Anywhere near Boston?

Philly?

Anywhere near Philly

New Orleans?

Savannah?

Anywhere where the streets were carved out by cows some time ago, or by walls (see, e.g., Manhattan) etc.?

Nah. Definitely not “pretty much all.”

]]> By: njpatient http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175440 njpatient Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:26:55 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175440 85 skep sadly true. 85 skep

sadly true.

]]> By: Ann http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175438 Ann Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:05:12 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175438 282 Hey, just my opinion. 282

Hey, just my opinion.

]]> By: chicagofinance http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175436 chicagofinance Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:37:48 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175436 grim Says: April 9th, 2008 at 3:45 pm Off topic.. Microsoft must be fuming! From MarketWatch: Yahoo in talks to carry search ads from Google: report grim: Yahoo! longs are fuming....Jerry Yang looks like a diaperman....honestly, the Yahoo! board is putting on public display the vision and competence that caused them to fall to also-ran status in search.....pathetic display of megalomania.... grim Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Off topic..
Microsoft must be fuming!
From MarketWatch:
Yahoo in talks to carry search ads from Google: report

grim: Yahoo! longs are fuming….Jerry Yang looks like a diaperman….honestly, the Yahoo! board is putting on public display the vision and competence that caused them to fall to also-ran status in search…..pathetic display of megalomania….

]]> By: chicagofinance http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175434 chicagofinance Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:33:30 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175434 Ann Says: April 9th, 2008 at 3:21 pm 228 Good point, but let’s say, for a given type of house, houses are still never going back to 1997, even inflation-adjusted. But I agree, using median/average price of resales could be deceiving. A: talk to people in the rust-belt about your opinion.... Ann Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
228 Good point, but let’s say, for a given type of house, houses are still never going back to 1997, even inflation-adjusted. But I agree, using median/average price of resales could be deceiving.

A: talk to people in the rust-belt about your opinion….

]]> By: BubbleYum http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175433 BubbleYum Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:31:11 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175433 When I see "McMansion" I think huge behemouth on a tiny lot. When I see “McMansion” I think huge behemouth on a tiny lot.

]]> By: Mikeinwaiting http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175430 Mikeinwaiting Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:23:52 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175430 Ann They just look so out of place & my god who would want to heat these things. Ann They just look so out of place & my god who would want to heat these things.

]]> By: Ann http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175427 Ann Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:20:25 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175427 278 I see the point about size, 3700 sf is enormous and unnecessary. In general, I just don't get the complaints about cookie cutter and lacking architectural charm. All eras suffered from those afflictions at least from what I've seen in NJ. 278

I see the point about size, 3700 sf is enormous and unnecessary.

In general, I just don’t get the complaints about cookie cutter and lacking architectural charm. All eras suffered from those afflictions at least from what I’ve seen in NJ.

]]> By: Mikeinwaiting http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175425 Mikeinwaiting Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:17:29 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175425 Jason I still think mine fit the bill 3700 sq ft but on 2 ac. Not to make you Bergen buyers upset but 889 for these bad boys.Seems like a deal after that house posted in 208.Taxes 15 or so. Jason I still think mine fit the bill 3700 sq ft but on 2 ac. Not to make you Bergen buyers upset but 889 for these bad boys.Seems like a deal after that house posted in 208.Taxes 15 or so.

]]> By: Laurie http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175421 Laurie Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:05:55 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175421 Regarding house in post #208...nice wheelbarrow in photo...does the backyard junk come with the house or is that negotiable??? BTW..We have another house for sale in our development...3 of them out of a street of 5 are for sale...looks like our own little love canal..altho pricier but ultimately just as toxic/ Regarding house in post #208…nice wheelbarrow in photo…does the backyard junk come with the house or is that negotiable??? BTW..We have another house for sale in our development…3 of them out of a street of 5 are for sale…looks like our own little love canal..altho pricier but ultimately just as toxic/

]]> By: Jason http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175420 Jason Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:05:16 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175420 271 Grim I think of a McMansion as any new pre-fab home with such a large footprint that it occupies 66+% of the piece of property its situated on. 271 Grim
I think of a McMansion as any new pre-fab home with such a large footprint that it occupies 66+% of the piece of property its situated on.

]]> By: Ann http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175418 Ann Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:03:25 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175418 271 Thanks for def. Interesting. See, here's what I don't get. Pretty much all neighborhoods, whatever their age, were "developments" at some point with "cookie cutter designs." Example, I think we've all seen towns where 90% of the houses are the same exact split or cape. Isn't that cookie cutter? Not exactly architectural brilliance. Then you have all the houses from earlier, like the 20s, 30s. Weren't they all built from kits? They all look the same to me. I guess the only thing where I get busting on McMansions would be their size, which in some cases, has gotten out of control. 271

Thanks for def. Interesting. See, here’s what I don’t get. Pretty much all neighborhoods, whatever their age, were “developments” at some point with “cookie cutter designs.”

Example, I think we’ve all seen towns where 90% of the houses are the same exact split or cape. Isn’t that cookie cutter? Not exactly architectural brilliance.

Then you have all the houses from earlier, like the 20s, 30s. Weren’t they all built from kits? They all look the same to me.

I guess the only thing where I get busting on McMansions would be their size, which in some cases, has gotten out of control.

]]> By: Mikeinwaiting http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175417 Mikeinwaiting Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:03:21 +0000 http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/04/09/were-in-the-middle-of-a-recession/#comment-175417 Ann Take a Sunday drive 23 north to 565 north cloned monsters will appear on your right about a mile up the road.You'll know them when you see them.Go another mile or 2 Lamp Post on your left good food & drink.A drive in the country is nice but the gas may cost more than lunch. Ann Take a Sunday drive 23 north to 565 north cloned monsters will appear on your right about a mile up the road.You’ll know them when you see them.Go another mile or 2 Lamp Post on your left good food & drink.A drive in the country is nice but the gas may cost more than lunch.

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