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		<title>By: Sybarite</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198951</link>
		<dc:creator>Sybarite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,

That&#039;s amazing.  The credit crunch seems to really be limiting activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s amazing.  The credit crunch seems to really be limiting activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich In NNJ</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198945</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich In NNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real estate in Bergen County (per the NJMLS data) &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; on fire.
It&#039;s burning DOWN.

First Half Stats

&lt;B&gt;Year Sold U/C*&lt;/b&gt;
1991	3,151	4,794
1992	3,591	4,966
1993	3,542	4,919
1994	3,940	5,180
1995	3,235	4,639
1996	3,500	5,359
1997	3,834	5,253
1998	4,246	5,882
1999	4,364	5,494
2000	4,054	5,189
2001	3,822	5,019
2002	4,545	5,468
2003	4,139	5,344
2004	4,652	5,844
2005	4,796	6,026
2006	4,024	5,167
2007	4,134	5,110
2008	2,889	3,849

*Under Contract = Pending Sales

Sales down 40% from peak in 2005, U/C down 36% from peak in 2005

Median price is down 6% from the peak in 2006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real estate in Bergen County (per the NJMLS data) <i>is</i> on fire.<br />
It&#8217;s burning DOWN.</p>
<p>First Half Stats</p>
<p><b>Year Sold U/C*</b><br />
1991	3,151	4,794<br />
1992	3,591	4,966<br />
1993	3,542	4,919<br />
1994	3,940	5,180<br />
1995	3,235	4,639<br />
1996	3,500	5,359<br />
1997	3,834	5,253<br />
1998	4,246	5,882<br />
1999	4,364	5,494<br />
2000	4,054	5,189<br />
2001	3,822	5,019<br />
2002	4,545	5,468<br />
2003	4,139	5,344<br />
2004	4,652	5,844<br />
2005	4,796	6,026<br />
2006	4,024	5,167<br />
2007	4,134	5,110<br />
2008	2,889	3,849</p>
<p>*Under Contract = Pending Sales</p>
<p>Sales down 40% from peak in 2005, U/C down 36% from peak in 2005</p>
<p>Median price is down 6% from the peak in 2006</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198944</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>willowbrook could be turned into a camp
for illegals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>willowbrook could be turned into a camp<br />
for illegals</p>
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		<title>By: Rich In NNJ</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198930</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich In NNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCER (189),

Do you have access to stats or is this an observation on your part?

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCER (189),</p>
<p>Do you have access to stats or is this an observation on your part?</p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: S.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO AL,

Menlo park mall is to Americans what Iselin is to Indians.  And I hate Menlo park mall.  I want it removed and turned into a horse farm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO AL,</p>
<p>Menlo park mall is to Americans what Iselin is to Indians.  And I hate Menlo park mall.  I want it removed and turned into a horse farm</p>
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		<title>By: Hobokenite</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198924</link>
		<dc:creator>Hobokenite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;HEHEHE, don’t laugh for some reason which escapes me, sales in Hoboken are still relatively strong. Given that some disproportionate percentage of residents is employed by Wall St firms you would think sales would be hurting, but I keep seeing the signs with under contract stickers and have been in the market here for a year or so and good inventory is few and far between. Now the situation is improving elsewhere but Hoboken has been slow to change. Inferior locations in Hoboken, i.e “dead presidents” section is not moving too quickly which is a welcome change.&lt;/i&gt;

I think it&#039;s happening exactly like the downturn in the late 80&#039;s/early 90&#039;s.  The rot starts at the edges of the NYC metropolitan areas (the suburbs), and creeps in.  Due to it&#039;s proximity to NYC, Hoboken will fall when Manhattan does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>HEHEHE, don’t laugh for some reason which escapes me, sales in Hoboken are still relatively strong. Given that some disproportionate percentage of residents is employed by Wall St firms you would think sales would be hurting, but I keep seeing the signs with under contract stickers and have been in the market here for a year or so and good inventory is few and far between. Now the situation is improving elsewhere but Hoboken has been slow to change. Inferior locations in Hoboken, i.e “dead presidents” section is not moving too quickly which is a welcome change.</i></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s happening exactly like the downturn in the late 80&#8242;s/early 90&#8242;s.  The rot starts at the edges of the NYC metropolitan areas (the suburbs), and creeps in.  Due to it&#8217;s proximity to NYC, Hoboken will fall when Manhattan does.</p>
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		<title>By: skep-tic</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198918</link>
		<dc:creator>skep-tic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biggest misstatement of the day:

&quot;In February, IndyMac posted the first annual loss in its 23-year history, which led the company to suspend its dividend on common shares as it attempts to ride out the mortgage crunch. But despite all the lender&#039;s troubles, Mr. Perry has insisted that mortgage brokers and home lenders are not the only ones responsible for the nation&#039;s credit and housing woes. In February, he listed &quot;systemic problems&quot; and the government&#039;s &quot;over-stimulation of the housing market&quot; as role-players, adding that &quot;IndyMac and most home lenders were not &#039;greedy and stupid.&#039;&quot;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biggest misstatement of the day:</p>
<p>&#8220;In February, IndyMac posted the first annual loss in its 23-year history, which led the company to suspend its dividend on common shares as it attempts to ride out the mortgage crunch. But despite all the lender&#8217;s troubles, Mr. Perry has insisted that mortgage brokers and home lenders are not the only ones responsible for the nation&#8217;s credit and housing woes. In February, he listed &#8220;systemic problems&#8221; and the government&#8217;s &#8220;over-stimulation of the housing market&#8221; as role-players, adding that &#8220;IndyMac and most home lenders were not &#8216;greedy and stupid.&#8217;&#8221;"</p>
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		<title>By: d2b</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198917</link>
		<dc:creator>d2b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a business at the jersey shore and I&#039;m hoping for big things from Canadians.  Everything is on sale to them.

As for bigoted, I hate the Mets.  Any day that wagner blows a save is a good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a business at the jersey shore and I&#8217;m hoping for big things from Canadians.  Everything is on sale to them.</p>
<p>As for bigoted, I hate the Mets.  Any day that wagner blows a save is a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198914</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to the other hobokenites....

Is it just me or does Michael Klein have every listing in town??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the other hobokenites&#8230;.</p>
<p>Is it just me or does Michael Klein have every listing in town??</p>
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		<title>By: kettle1</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198913</link>
		<dc:creator>kettle1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clott,

  it was recently in the news that DARPA was playing with a laser system that can cause you to hear voices since at least the early 80&#039;s.....  All of those claims of &quot;CIA in my head&quot; arent so crazy anymore eh?

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/report-nonletha.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clott,</p>
<p>  it was recently in the news that DARPA was playing with a laser system that can cause you to hear voices since at least the early 80&#8242;s&#8230;..  All of those claims of &#8220;CIA in my head&#8221; arent so crazy anymore eh?</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/report-nonletha.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/report-nonletha.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: kettle1</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198912</link>
		<dc:creator>kettle1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clott,

look into DARPA then,  they play with all of the way out idea&#039;s and concepts.  they figure a 90% failure rate is worth the 10% pay off of next gen physics and tech.  Most things are classified once DARPA funds them though, so they drop off the radar.
  DARPA is the group that created the internet, although they were called ARPA then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clott,</p>
<p>look into DARPA then,  they play with all of the way out idea&#8217;s and concepts.  they figure a 90% failure rate is worth the 10% pay off of next gen physics and tech.  Most things are classified once DARPA funds them though, so they drop off the radar.<br />
  DARPA is the group that created the internet, although they were called ARPA then.</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198911</link>
		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent a Summer (long ago) as a repo man.  Good times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a Summer (long ago) as a repo man.  Good times.</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198910</link>
		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vodka (184)-

I want to believe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vodka (184)-</p>
<p>I want to believe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198909</link>
		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank-

I hear the demand for margin clerks on WS is quite strong.

However, margin clerking is stressful and doesn&#039;t pay very much.  I think the money and excitement are much better in repossessing cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank-</p>
<p>I hear the demand for margin clerks on WS is quite strong.</p>
<p>However, margin clerking is stressful and doesn&#8217;t pay very much.  I think the money and excitement are much better in repossessing cars.</p>
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		<title>By: kettle1</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/07/07/first-the-people-go-then-the-jobs-go/#comment-198908</link>
		<dc:creator>kettle1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X,

regarding blacklight energy:

Nasa has done experiments based on some wilder physiscs ideas that showed real results.  The problem is/was that modern physics cannot fully explain the results and the inventors physics conflicts with what is currently accepted.  
  WHile DARPA may continue to play with some of this stuff NASA  tends to drop it, on the basis that if they cannot explain how it works, then it doesnt help them.
  Although last i heard there were 1 or 2 researchers playing with some physics that deal with  reducing the force of gravity (what would popularly be called anti-gravity).  Apparently some russian physicist was able to show results and caught nasa&#039;s attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X,</p>
<p>regarding blacklight energy:</p>
<p>Nasa has done experiments based on some wilder physiscs ideas that showed real results.  The problem is/was that modern physics cannot fully explain the results and the inventors physics conflicts with what is currently accepted.<br />
  WHile DARPA may continue to play with some of this stuff NASA  tends to drop it, on the basis that if they cannot explain how it works, then it doesnt help them.<br />
  Although last i heard there were 1 or 2 researchers playing with some physics that deal with  reducing the force of gravity (what would popularly be called anti-gravity).  Apparently some russian physicist was able to show results and caught nasa&#8217;s attention.</p>
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