Thu 10 Jul 2008
From Bloomberg:
U.S. Foreclosures Rose 53% in June, Bank Seizures Almost Triple
U.S. foreclosure filings rose 53 percent in June from a year earlier and bank repossessions almost tripled as deteriorating property values and higher payments on adjustable mortgages forced more people to give up their homes.
More than 252,000 properties, or one in every 501 U.S. households, were in some stage of foreclosure, RealtyTrac Inc., an Irvine, California-based seller of default data, said today in a statement. Nevada, California and Arizona had the highest foreclosure rates.
“The foreclosure problem is getting worse and will stay with us well into the next decade,” Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Economy.com in West Chester, Pennsylvania, said in an interview. “The job market is eroding and homeowners have less equity. Lenders are much less willing to work with you if you’ve got negative equity, and you’re more likely to give up your house if you’re deeply underwater.”
About $3.5 trillion in homeowner equity has been wiped out since the spring of 2006, when housing prices were at their peak, Zandi said. Home prices fell the most on record in April, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller index of 20 U.S. metropolitan areas. June was the second straight month in which more than a quarter million properties received foreclosure filings, RealtyTrac said. Filings fell 3 percent from May.
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“The year-over-year increase of more than 50 percent indicates we have not yet reached the top of this foreclosure cycle,” James Saccacio, chief executive officer of RealtyTrac, said in the statement. Bank repossessions, which increased 171 percent in June, are rising at a “much faster pace” than default notices and auction notices, he said.
From the AP:
US foreclosure filings surge 53 percent in June
From Reuters:
U.S. June home foreclosures up 53 pct
U.S. home foreclosure filings jumped 53 percent in June from a year earlier, although they were down 3 percent from May, and foreclosures are expected to rise further, real estate data firm RealtyTrac said on Thursday.
Foreclosure filings rose on an annual basis in 39 states to a total of 252,363 properties during the month, with Nevada, California, Arizona and Florida posting the highest foreclosure rates.
One out of every 501 U.S. households received a notice of default, auction sale or bank repossession in June, RealtyTrac said.
“June was the second straight month with more than a quarter million properties nationwide receiving foreclosure filings,” said James J. Saccacio, chief executive officer of RealtyTrac. “We have not yet reached the top of this foreclosure cycle.”
The decrease from May, the first monthly dip since February, was not a fluke but it does not signal a trend, either, said Rick Sharga, vice president of marketing at RealtyTrac, based in Irvine, California, in an interview.
July 10th, 2008 at 6:13 am
Am I really first?
July 10th, 2008 at 6:14 am
From the Record:
Populations surge in many North Jersey towns
Edgewater has been the fastest-growing municipality in North Jersey since 2000, followed closely by Pequannock, according to statistics released Thursday by the U.S. Census Bureau. show.
The data also show that Bergen County’s population rose 1.3 percent and the population of Passaic County increased 0.4 percent during the 2000-07 span. New Jersey’s population grew by about 3.2 percent during the same period.
Bergen County’s population increases generally occurred in towns bordering along the Hudson River, while Passaic County experienced growth in its western municipalities.
The smallest increases and declines generally occurred in the southern portion of Bergen County and in the southern and urban municipalities of Passaic County, the 2007 estimates show.
Among the more upscale municipalities, Ridgewood lost 2.4 percent and Glen Rock lost 2.78 percent — the fourth-highest loss in the county, the data show.
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Greg Harper, a Census Bureau demographer, cautioned that the numbers are estimates, and in small towns even a small numerical change can equal result in a large change in terms of percentage.
The next definitive data will come from the 2010 census, he said.
July 10th, 2008 at 6:15 am
From Crains:
Brooklyn’s home sales, prices cooling
The Brooklyn real estate market is showing signs of wear as banks become skittish about lending and consumers worry about the economy. Home sales in Brooklyn took a nose dive during the second quarter, and median prices dipped, according to a report released Thursday by brokerage firm Prudential Douglas Elliman.
Across the borough, the number of sales fell to 2,031, down 43.6% compared to the year-earlier quarter. Median sales prices fell to $525,000, 1.9% lower than the comparable period of 2007.
The median prices for new condominiums grew 19.5% to an average sales price of $580,402. Among the most expensive apartment deals, the average sales price was $1.4 million, down slightly from $1.5 million a year ago.
“The new product that is entering the market is skewed toward luxury apartments,” said Jonathan Miller, chief executive of Miller Samuel Inc., the real estate appraisal firm that prepared the report. More than half of Brooklyn’s newly built condominiums are labeled as luxury homes, which caters to Manhattanites moving to Brooklyn and Brooklynites trading up, he added.
July 10th, 2008 at 6:50 am
double speak:
title:
“Populations surge in many North Jersey towns”
then, in the article:
“Greg Harper, a Census Bureau demographer, cautioned that the numbers are estimates, and in small towns even a small numerical change can equal result in a large change in terms of percentage”
bad article.
SAS
July 10th, 2008 at 7:00 am
“California town creates parking havens for homeless”
http://tinyurl.com/6yoo38
July 10th, 2008 at 7:05 am
take it slave!
“Congress votes to immunize lawbreaking telecoms, legalize warrantless eavesdropping”
http://tinyurl.com/6kbljl
SAS
July 10th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Another city said to be immune;
“U.K. house prices fell the most in 15 years in June as rising interest rates and reduced mortgage lending exacerbated the worst property slump since the last recession in 1991, an HBOS Plc report showed.”
“The average cost of a home declined 6.1 percent in the three months ending in June from a year earlier, the biggest drop since March 1993, the U.K.’s biggest mortgage lender said in a statement on the Regulatory News Service today. Prices fell 2 percent on the month to an average 180,344 pounds ($356,000).”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=atdFUC7UFOY4&refer=home
July 10th, 2008 at 7:15 am
#6
That’s it. I’m voting for Teddy Roosevelt.
July 10th, 2008 at 7:32 am
I guess when you are forced to sell Positive Carry [yacht], the whole foundation crumbles?
“One by one, John Devaney sold his treasures, hoping to forestall what was in the end inevitable. He sold his Renoir and his Gulfstream, his home and his helicopter. Even his cherished yacht — gone.”
“Mr. Devaney, who made and then lost a fortune trading mortgage investments, finally called it quits. He shut his hedge fund, and told his investors that all their money was gone too.”
“Mr. Devaney thinks the mortgage crisis is nowhere near its end and expects regional banks and insurance companies to face big losses on mortgage bonds.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/business/10fund.html?_r=2&scp=2&sq=hedge+funds&st=nyt&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
July 10th, 2008 at 7:47 am
#9 BC Bob,
Why would people give money to that guy again? He already had his hedge fund go to zero once, history does have a way of repeating.
July 10th, 2008 at 7:49 am
bairen [10],
Beats me. Gluttons for punishment.
July 10th, 2008 at 7:51 am
“The Bush administration has held talks about what to do in the event mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac falter, according to three people familiar with the matter, as the stock prices of both companies continue to fall sharply.”
“If a loss of confidence among investors made it impossible for Fannie and Freddie to continue supporting the mortgage market, “the government would have to step in,” said Douglas Elmendorf, an economist at the Brookings Institution in Washington.”
“They can’t be allowed to fail,” said Peter Wallison, a former Treasury Department general counsel. “The losses would extend through so much of our economy, and so much of the world economy. There is simply no way that the United States government can let it happen.”
“It’s unclear what the government might do to either forestall or mitigate any potential problems. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has said in the past the government will not back the debt of Fannie and Freddie.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121564782376340951.html?mod=mktw
July 10th, 2008 at 8:09 am
20% down + no contingencies = no sale!
Just put in a starting bid on a house yesterday for $35,000 less than asking.
Owners counter offered $2000 less than asking.
This is the third house this has happened.
All were listed at $565,00+
What happened to all the buying power a qualified buyer should have…..
(pre-approved/20%+ down/no contigencies)
Here’s the kicker…the previous 2 houses that my bid was rejected sold for what my original bid was or less…..about 6 to 12 months later.
kicker #2, the one resonable homeowner who came down to near my asking (we went under contract) eventually sold for full asking price after a second buyer came in.
Go figure?
July 10th, 2008 at 8:12 am
JB,
When do we get to see the monthly NNJ sales/inventory charts for June?
Always my favorite day of the month
July 10th, 2008 at 8:17 am
re # p Quote ““I’m devastated, I’m totally devastated,” Mr. Devaney said by telephone from Aspen, Colo.”
Sure sounds like he is devestated.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:24 am
CoolHandLuke, the trick is to get someone in before you to lowball, I think you set the tone with lowballing and at first the seller was shocked then they realized after many other lowball offers from other people that this was the trend.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:24 am
BC Bob - I am unable to understand 95% of chapters 5 and 6 in “The Trillion Dollar Meltdown” 5 -A Tsunami of Dollars and 6 -The Great Unwinding. But I managed to understand this: pg. 136 - end of chpt. 6
“The parallel with the 1970s is also important for how it was resolved. In one of the great episodes of American public service, Paul Volker addressed the problems head-on, wrung inflation out of the economy, restored the international position of the dollar, and cleared the field for the economic booms of the 1980s and 1990s.”
Contrast Volker’s behavior with that of the Japanese when their own asset bubble imploded in the late 1980’s - a debacle also proportionally on the same scale as our own current one, and much more like it in detail. There was no Japanese Volker. Instead of adddressing their problems, the tight network of incumbent politicians and bankers concealed them. And nearly twenty years later, Japan still has not recovered.”
“The American financial sector today is far more powerful than it was in the 1970s. And to date, its response to the looming crisis has been, overwhelmingly, to downplay and to conceal. That is a path to turning a painful debacle into a decades-long tragedy.”
July 10th, 2008 at 8:24 am
#13: must be that those “excellent school district” towns are still hot hot hot!
July 10th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Coolhand,
What town(s) are you bidding in? I’m experiencing similar reactions from sellers.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:29 am
People really care about the future of their children. That is why towns like Upper School River, Blue Ribbondale, and Wallstreetville will be immune to any “low ball” offers. Get with the program or be priced out forever…muhahahah!!!!
July 10th, 2008 at 8:30 am
NJ Finance - what town are you looking in?
July 10th, 2008 at 8:30 am
“There was no Japanese Volker”
Cindy,
Unfortunately, there is no Volker today. We will debase and debase until the dollar is worthless.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:35 am
(23) Bob - I was depending on you….Don’t you know anybody over there?
At least there have been some write downs. If we could expose all of the bad players - get everything out into the open - stop pretending everything is “hunky-dory” - wouldn’t that help?
July 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Luke and NJF,
Doesn’t matter what town, many sellers when they first put their house on the market hope that they’ll get what their neighbors got. After a few months they become aware of the actual housing market, start to read the economic articles in the paper and start to “get it”.
Many a home sold at or near my initial lowball many, MANY months after my lowball.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Philadelphia’s population is the lowest since the start of the 20th century, when the number of residents increased from 1.3 million in 1900 to 1.6 million in 1920, figures show.
Between 1990 and 2000, for example, the city lost 68,027 people, the third-highest number among 243 cities with populations of more than 100,000.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_top_stories/20080710_Phila__s_population_shrinking__though_region_s_is_growing.html
July 10th, 2008 at 8:42 am
“If we could expose all of the bad players -get everything out into the open - stop pretending everything is “hunky-dory” - wouldn’t that help?”
Cindy,
Yes, unfortunately, you are describing a total collapse. If Bear went under the whole system would have imploded. That said, in the end, we would be much stronger. However, this is the scenario our master planners are desperately trying to avoid. Their plan, inflate, accept trash for cash or die.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:43 am
#23 - If we could expose all of the bad players - get everything out into the open - stop pretending everything is “hunky-dory” - wouldn’t that help?
Systemically, yes. For the individual banks, of course not.
Too many have too much to loose, and they all have much more power than we do.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Hmmm, beaten to the punch by Bob and I misspelled ‘lose’. Off to a great start this morning.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:49 am
@25
DL
Sad to say the height of our population was in the 50’s. But I suppose a corrupt government, crime, high business and income tax will drive people out. However, that tide could/should be changing through the Nutter administration and tax incentives for companies relocating to Philly, i.e. Comcast and hopefully BlackRock.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:56 am
#18 tbw: Well if that is the case then I guess there is some other reason that River Egde and Oradell has lots of inventory for sale. Houses on the market in both towns rotting on the market for months now.
July 10th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Slummit is in freefall. This updated place has been reduced twice from it’s original ask of $509k down to $470k. Any guess as to what it will finally go for? Address is 3 Hughes. We have friends who were under the impression that their unupdated home on this same block was worth at least $525k. I guess they will have to start living in reality.
http://newmls.gsmls.com/public/show_public_report_rpt.do?method=getData&sysid=%203850310&ptype=RES&report=res_media&pubid=259341&fromPublic=PUBLIC
July 10th, 2008 at 9:00 am
these politicians are disgusting…an article clip from Obama:
“But a busy day in the Senate delayed Obama in Washington, forcing him to combine two events into one where he was supposed to ask donors to help Clinton as well as contribute to his campaign.
Wednesday night, he praised Clinton as “extraordinary” and “tough” — but nearly forgot about her need for funds.
After wrapping up his speech to donors Wednesday evening with an emphatic, “We will change the world!”, Obama left the stage to loud music, only to re-appear minutes later to complete his duties.
“Hold on a second guys, I was getting all carried away. I’ve got one more thing that is important to do,” Obama said to a laughing audience. “Senator Clinton still has some debt. And I could have had some debt if I hadn’t won so I know the drill.”
July 10th, 2008 at 9:03 am
BC Bob
Looking at the last paragraph below, it’s odd how the guy is wrong enough to lose everything, and yet still regards himself as an oracle who should impart his great wisdom to us.
Dude - you screwed up so badly that you lost everything you and anyone you knew had. You’re not an expert. Shut up!
“One by one, John Devaney sold his treasures, hoping to forestall what was in the end inevitable. He sold his Renoir and his Gulfstream, his home and his helicopter. Even his cherished yacht — gone.” “Mr. Devaney, who made and then lost a fortune trading mortgage investments, finally called it quits. He shut his hedge fund, and told his investors that all their money was gone too.”“Mr. Devaney thinks the mortgage crisis is nowhere near its end and expects regional banks and insurance companies to face big losses on mortgage bonds.”
July 10th, 2008 at 9:06 am
#24,#13
I totally agree. A sellers mindset is a tough thing to get through to. I think as a first time lowballer on a property all you are doing is helping the guy (or gal) that comes after you with their lowball (realistic) bid. I was bidding on a house in ‘06 and was lowballing then. The buyers were extremely displeased and insulted with my lowballs. They ended up selling the dump 6 months later for basically what I was offering originally as they then got desperate. In the end though you are setting the stage for comps to get down to a level that might have some effect on pricing 6 months down the line. This will ultimately help you but of course it does you no good for that particular house.
The perfect storm is the good house that was initially overpriced but now the seller is coming back to reality. I found that exact seller and house in late ‘06. You just have to get a feel for each seller and property. This is where a good buyers agent comes in handy. I used mine to scope out each seller for me.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Another big week for NJ layoffs..
http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/ui/current.htm
State Change State Supplied Comment
NJ +2,842
Layoffs in the transportation, service, and public administration industries.
NY +2,894
Layoffs in the service industry.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:10 am
(26) Bob - Here is the answer from Morris…
“A less apocalyptic reading is that we are witnessing the final days of another quarter-century political/ideological cycle - the last gaspings of the raw-market, Chicago-school brand of financial capitalism that moved into the vacuum created by the 1970s collapse of the Keynesian/liberal paradigm. As I write this in the fall of 2007, comparisons of current events to the debacle of the late 1970s are popping up regularly in the daily press.”
“Political cycles turn when an extended period of either conservative or liberal hegemony brings the baser, more self-seeking, or barmiest elements to the fore.
The market and regulatory reforms introduced by economic and monetary conservatives in the 1980s, I believe, made a major contribution to the recovery of American competiveness and economic energy in the 1980s and 1990s. But as the more unsavory impulses in the conservative understanding have asserted themselves, the country has been brought to the brink of financial, economic, and, in politics, moral disaster. All signs that we are on the cusp of a turning of the cycle, much like that in 1980.”
“ASSUMING WE FACE OUR ISSUES SQUARELY (my caps) and get through the next couple of years, in much the same way we did in 1979-82, we can start addressing the detrius of knotty problems left over from the cycle’s turn. I’ll give my own short list of some of those issues in the next chapter.”
I haven’t finished the chapter yet but he does say “The very first priority will be to restore effective oversight over the financial industry.”
“It is transparency and integrity of American financial markets that has made them such a magnet for foreign investment, even in times like the present, when financial performance and the strength of the currency hardly justify it.”
He goes on to say we must start with the banks and feels congress should seriously consider restoring some version of the old Glass-Steagall separation of commercial and investment banking.
He says market dogmatism has become a problem rather than a solution and would like to see the pendulum swing in the other direction…
So does the whole book end up saying “What goes around turns around”….every 30 years or so….and that’s a good thing…?
July 10th, 2008 at 9:14 am
#32 njp,
If Devaney knew so much about the mortgage crisis, how come he went to zero and how did his brokerage firm take a $50 million dollar loss on a trade?
Yet he’s probably a smooth talker and the trust fund and pension money mangers will break out the checkbooks.
Would be real funny if he raised another stake, shorted and bought puts right at the bottom and went to zero again.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:31 am
20% down + no contingencies = no sale!
What happened to all the buying power a qualified buyer should have…..
(pre-approved/20%+ down/no contigencies)
Housing downturns are akin to trench warfare between buyers and sellers.
Most sellers in today’s market are jokers who refuse to drop their price. They either have too much pride; they simply refuse to take a loss or think that their house is special and these filthy buyers need to recognize that. Or, they are underwater and can’t afford to bring a check to closing.
You need to find a buyer who either needs to move or is ready to be realistic. This may mean dealing with a few rejected offers.
Remember, you can afford to wait longer than many sellers can remain solvent.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:33 am
FRE & FNM both tanking hard again.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:38 am
#31 NJgator,
That house is tempting. I think that would have been around 600k at the peak.
Maybe there will be even better prices next year!! Spring 07 pos capes and ranches that needed at least 50k in work were listing for more then that renovated colonial.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Nicholas, can you do me a favor if you have the right tech friends? When I was with R_ _ I could’ve done it. Do you know how to run 201-204-0022? He’s (”Steve Miller”) phishing our office directory this week.
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-201-204-0022/11
July 10th, 2008 at 9:44 am
My take on the sellers is this,
When the listing first comes on even in this slow market, it is shown repeatedly. The reason being there are buyers out there. Buyers that have seen everything out there already that they don’t want. Their agent calls they go to see, so you have ten prospective buyers in a week. One (1) of those ten say yes. They bid, its not high enough because the sellers are thinking no way I’ve had all these people in I am not selling that low. So it sits the next week gets 4 visits , the next 2 and finally none. Buyers have to see it and wait. Do not bid the first week. Come back week 4.
That’s been my experience this year from both ends.
KL
KL
July 10th, 2008 at 9:50 am
KL,
Saw this first hand four weeks ago. Listing came on the market in Wayne, nice place, was definately fresher than anything else on the market, price was good as well. I showed it on a Saturday, while I was there I happened to sneak a peek at her schedule for the day. We were one of 8 parties to see the house on that first Saturday. Still on the market, a month later with a $10k price cut.
I was sure it was going to see action with that many visits on the first weekend. Boy was I wrong.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:55 am
39 Bairen - Beware. My friend on that street bought in in 03 for under 400k for a very similar home. Her house was the least expensive home on the market in Summit at that point. She thought the booming market would improve the neighborhood. She has been less than impressed to date on the progress in that regard.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Anyone who doesn’t consider offers in this market are doomed to own that property for years. The econ. is going down the toilet and shore vacation homes are expendable as used condoms.. Be happy you even got a offer, you have been lucky in finding a idiot.
July 10th, 2008 at 9:59 am
#43 NJgator,
Thanks for the tip. We’re going to wait till next year anyway. Maybe a house in that condition will be around 400k by then.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:01 am
“Most sellers in today’s market are jokers who refuse to drop their price. ”
They are living in the past when their neighbor sold his over priced jersey shore home. Now when the buyers are faced with bad econ. 6 % of disposable income going to gas and congress going on month long vacation. Lending institutions look hard at second homes and debt being carried.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:04 am
In todays market a buyer must look at days on market.. BUT THIS MEANS ALL THE DAYS ON MARKET.. to do this must have realtor go to ALL THE AGENTS who have tried to sell this property in the last few yrs. By changing rel/ agents they get new listing and starts new days on market lie.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:09 am
If Coolhand is bidding $35k off properties listed at $565+, that’s only about 6% off asking, which I don’t think even qualifies it as a lowball. I’d say that’s a good bid in this market, especially considering DP and no contingencies. I’d forget this delusional seller and move on. My own lowball metric starts at 10% off ask.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:11 am
31 Gator
I’ve seen pics of that house before. I was wondering why someone living in prestigious Summit has what looks like an Ikea wardrobe in the bedroom.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:13 am
49 Lost - Ha! Stu remarked on the IKEA furniture as well. Great minds think alike : )
July 10th, 2008 at 10:16 am
That’s definitely an Ikea wardrobe, and caught my eye as well. Sadly, there aren’t too many semi-contemporary wardrobes on the market, so I don’t fault them for that.
But it begs the question - if they need a wardrobe, is the bedroom (and house) short on closet space? Or are the people living there total clotheshorses?
July 10th, 2008 at 10:17 am
45 Bairen - There was another house on that street - 9 Hughes that was not quite as nice on the inside, but did have an extra 1/2 bath on the first floor. Last I saw it listed it was down to $419k down from it’s original list of around $485k.
Grim or someone else with GSMLS access, would you be able to provide a status for 9 Hughes? Did it sell or was it withdrawn?
July 10th, 2008 at 10:21 am
9 Hughes Place
MLS#: 2468997
LD: 12/19/2007
XD: 06/18/2008
OLP: $489,000
LP: $415,000
Expired.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:24 am
BC (12)-
“They can’t be allowed to fail,” said Peter Wallison, a former Treasury Department general counsel. “The losses would extend through so much of our economy, and so much of the world economy. There is simply no way that the United States government can let it happen.”
It wouldn’t be so bad…except that this whole failure of Fannie/Freddie has been planned from the get-go. The declarations of surprise and anxiety on the part of the bureaucrat donkeys is all feigned.
All of us here should stock up on KY and practice grabbing our ankles. Brace yourselves!
July 10th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Bairen - Looks like you can get into Slummit for $400k. Maybe next year you can get in for $350 ; )
I guess Slummit is already at 2004 prices by the most optimistic analysis.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Cindy (23)-
The write-downs are nothing, compared to all the slop that’s been tamped into the septic of Fannie/Freddie.
Don’t even get me started on all the garbage mortgages that have been dumped at the window in return for Treasuries. The banks have now become the bank robbers.
And we get to pay for it all.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:33 am
#53 Sybarite,
Thanks!!
Maybe I’ll be able to get a nice colonial for less then 350k next year
July 10th, 2008 at 10:35 am
#56 clot,
You’re too optimistic. Our great grandchildren will be paying for it.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:35 am
29 secondary
What’s the skinny on Blackrock to Philly? I had not heard this.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:35 am
I actually like Slummit. I would much rather live among the blue collars since they tend to take pride in their homes. We could spend an extra 200 to 300K for an extra bathroom and bedroom in Chatham or Millburn and will have to deal with the white collar mentality of everyone feeling the need to outdo each other. I look forward to moving into Slummit for 350K. Anyone else here want to be our neighbors?
July 10th, 2008 at 10:36 am
in a slightly different direction….
What would likely be the REAL results of the state of NJ going bankrupt? what actual impacts would people see day to day???
July 10th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Anyone else here want to be our neighbors?
I’m with you.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Cindy (35)-
“The very first priority will be to restore effective oversight over the financial industry.”
Good luck with that one. As mentioned earlier, there are no modern-day Volckers. The henhouse is guarded by foxes.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Bairen, Clot, Cindy - The bailout of FNM/FRE will make the bailout of Bear Stearns look like lunch money. The rich keep getting richer and the USA is looking more and more like some South American countries.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:39 am
“All of us here should stock up on KY and practice grabbing our ankles. Brace yourselves!”
Clot,
I’ve been bracing myself for quite some time. This will be the champ of all busts.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Stu
I hear there’s a lot of assholes in Summit. I don’t think you belong there.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:40 am
@59
NJP,
They want to relocate their Plainsboro/Princeton operation and move it to the new Cira Center @ 30th St. Station. The current offer from the city has tax incentives till 2016 and Blackrock is asking to extend that benefit to 2018. Not too much to ask in my opinion. They are still negotiating with the city.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:42 am
lostinny Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 10:11 am
31 Gator
I’ve seen pics of that house before. I was wondering why someone living in prestigious Summit has what looks like an Ikea wardrobe in the bedroom.
Lost- I have that same feeling many times looking at $700+ properties in other towns as well.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Bergabe is speaking now, anyone think Ron Paul will do a told you so dance on the table?
July 10th, 2008 at 10:46 am
A general question -
Can the dollar possibly survive the bust and bailout of FNM and FRE?
Or is the plan to not bail them out? Let them go, let the debt die and start a new GSE not saddled with all the junk.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:46 am
preach on (from Bloomberg):
*********
Chances are increasing that the U.S. will bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac because they don’t have enough capital to weather the worst housing slump since the Great Depression, former St. Louis Federal Reserve President William Poole said in an interview. Freddie Mac owed $5.2 billion more than its assets were worth in the first quarter, making it insolvent under fair value accounting rules, he said. The fair value of Fannie Mae’s assets fell 66 percent to $12.2 billion, data provided by the Washington- based company show, and may be negative next quarter, Poole said.
“Congress ought to recognize that these firms are insolvent, that it is allowing these firms to continue to exist as bastions of privilege, financed by the taxpayer,” Poole, 71, who left the Fed in March, said in the interview yesterday.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:46 am
NJP,
a link to a blackrock article. i was off on the years, replace mentioned years with 2018 to 2020.
http://philadelphia.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/stories/2008/04/07/story8.html
July 10th, 2008 at 10:47 am
#48 twice shy:
“If Coolhand is bidding $35k off properties listed at $565+, that’s only about 6% off asking, which I don’t think even qualifies it as a lowball.”
I totally agree…I do not feel my bid is a low ball rather a realistic price for that particular house.
My offer ws rejected and I was told sellers were offended.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:47 am
68 afe
So many things come to mind.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:48 am
[66] second that. With the exception of some brits, I haven’t yet met anyone in summit that I didn’t want to bludgeon with a 7 iron, just on principle.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Where is the link for the running tally of writedowns and losses?
July 10th, 2008 at 10:49 am
#60 Stu,
I’m in next year!!
July 10th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Stu,
Living in Chatham, I honestly think Summit has a hell of a lot more a-holes then my area. Chatham is a very chilled out town from what I have seen living here for the last two years. My block is for the most part completely down to earth. We have drinks together on Thursdays in the summer where the kids have fun in the backyard and all the adults get sh*tfaced. I honestly have found everyone to be refreshingly chilled. I can’t stand that “keep up with the Jones” mentality and I told my wife if I found it here we were moving back to the city. I have seen next to none of it.
You are welcome to be my neighbor any time.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:51 am
#60 or Millburn and will have to deal with the white collar mentality of everyone feeling the need to outdo each other.
I suspect that going forward quite a few in Summit, and other so called prestige areas, will have more seriois things to worry about rather than keeping up with each other.
The party is over.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:51 am
[72] 2ndary
Great. I knew I didn’t ask enough for my place in Philly.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Saw three Somerset Co. lis pendens filed yesterday on late ‘07-vintage conforming mortgages. I’m increasingly seeing a disproportionate amount of defaults that seem to have begun 60-90 days out from the closing.
I shudder to think how much of this crap is backstopped by Fannie/Freddie…
This detonation is gonna be like a hydrogen bomb, ringed with daisy cutters.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Local towns poised to join COAH lawsuit
July 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am
#70 toshiro
“Can the dollar possibly survive the bust and bailout of FNM and FRE?”
Yes if we auction off Hawaii or some territories to the Chinese or Japanese.
Laugh, but historically when an empire’s economic collapse picks up speed they try to sell off their most far flung real estate. We picked up the middle of the US with the Louisiana purchase from France, scored Alaska from Czarist Russia. Now it’s out turn.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am
re: #83 or we could expand into Canada.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:54 am
MarketWatch:
Partying like it’s 1980 all over again
Economic, foreign policy issues in 2008 smack of Reagan-Carter contest
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/partying-its-1980-all-over/story.aspx?guid=%7B836BA60A-4840-4D90-9898-3383307DE484%7D
In other news the NG build was only 90 this week and we are rapidly running out of time to supply what is needed to meet this winters demand requirements. It appears that every week we are 5 to 10 BCFs below our 5 year average. If this winter is cold, your energy bill could very well double. I just installed a double insulated water heater which has an ROI of three years over the single insulated (not to mention the 12-year warranty). The way NG is pricing this Summer, I might get my return in only one winter! ;)
July 10th, 2008 at 10:55 am
#81 clot: late 07 mtgs and already lis oendens? That is absolutely amazing!!! So they made what 2 or 3 payments and now they are going into foreclosure???? Amazing !!!! Ans pathetic, and we are supposed to feel abd for these people!!! What a joke!!!
July 10th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Does anyone have any info on Commerce Bank’s balance sheet? Are they loaded with toxic MBS or are they conservatively run?
July 10th, 2008 at 10:56 am
“all the adults get sh*tfaced.”
mike [78],
I’ll be doing the Chat this Sat.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:56 am
#84 Sean,
Noy you’re talking!! Loads of resources and a short commute!
July 10th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Lost (66),
I hate to sound like a bigot but they’re everywhere these days! Doesn’t matter what town you’re talking about.
It’s a damn shame.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Coolhand,
If the sellers say they were offended by your offer, walk away. You should be offended at their price.
Odds are you can come back in October and get it for the price you want.
July 10th, 2008 at 10:57 am
#61
here’s an example from Alabama:
“Sewer bills for residents of Jefferson County, with a population of 659,000, have risen more than fourfold over the last 11 years as the county amassed $3.2 billion of debt to build a new sewer system.”
July 10th, 2008 at 10:59 am
#90 Rich: Oh yes they are. But it is one thing to be an a-whole. Some are quite harmless.
But an a-whole who thinks they have a clue is far more dangerous.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:00 am
90 Rich
Maybe. But I’m just sick of the better then you attitude.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Smart Housing Zones’ Are Topic of July 15 Meeting
SOMERVILLE - Municipal elected officials, planning board members and staff, planning consultants and the public are invited to a discussion of Smart Housing Zones at the Somerset County Planning Board’s monthly meeting.
Chris Sturm, senior director of state policy for New Jersey Future, will present the organization’s affordable-housing proposal to the county Planning Board at its regularly scheduled meeting on Tuesday, July 15, starting at 5 p.m. The session will be held in the third-floor freeholders’ meeting room at the Somerset County Administration Building, 20 Grove St.
New Jersey Future is a statewide research and policy group advocating growth that protects the state’s open lands and natural resources, revitalizes neighborhoods, keeps housing affordable and provides more transportation choices. For more information go to http://www.njfuture.org/index.cfm
July 10th, 2008 at 11:01 am
lostinny Says:
“Stu, I hear there’s a lot of assholes in Summit. I don’t think you belong there.”
Awww, that’s heartwarming!
July 10th, 2008 at 11:01 am
3b (86)-
I had heard through the grapevine that ‘07 mortgages featured underwriting flaws that made ‘05-’06 look like models for judicious lending. However, seeing the chatter become reality is shocking.
In less than two years, I’ve gone from fairly bullish, to bear…and now, I honestly believe that we could be on the brink of what can only be described as a multi-sector depression. I had a ringside seat for RTC, and I can’t even use the depths of RTC to come up with parallels for what’s going on now. We’re in uncharted waters, and the waters are chock-full of steroid-addled sharks.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:01 am
37 renting
“Most sellers in today’s market are jokers who refuse to drop their price. They … have too much pride”
Pride cometh before the fall.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Did you know that the NJ state employees pension system took a hit of over $50 million this week on the block of Lehman common they bought in a private $180mm transaction, and yesterday the state again cut Lehman a $20 million tax break so taat they wouldn’t pull out of their JC location (mostly back office low paying positions)
In February the Division of Investment(D)! rolled the dice and purchased 8 million shares of Citigroup preferred at $50 per for a total of $400 million, and also both $300 Million worth of Merrill.
The taxpayer is going to get whacked, Corzine has seen fit to help bailout the banks with Pension funds.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/nj_state_pension_funds_invest.html
July 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am
3 Bridgewater 1 MIL lis pendens this AM (all Martinsville zip code). One Basking Ridge 2 MIL lis pendens.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:04 am
41 rhyming
That sounds right to me.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:04 am
lostinny Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 10:47 am
68 afe
So many things come to mind.
Seriously. I mean if I am going to buy your over-priced asset(?) and fund your retirement, at least give me the feeling that you have some disposable income to spare on furniture that fits your “elegant, turn-key, prestigious-neighborhood abode”.
On the other hand, I guess nothing really distinguishes the quality of my surroundings in my Ikea-furnished rental from those of “NJ’s millionaire home owners”. Plus I am pretty sure I do have some money in the bank.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:06 am
44 jack
“shore vacation homes are expendable as used condoms”
Speaking of which, it’s been a long time since Sally’s been seen in these parts.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Sean (99)-
I can’t even time out buying LEH for a quick pop in the CNBC contest…and our Peoples’ Republic does this with real money?
I’m getting long of dog food. There are gonna be a lot of future pensioners using it as the basis of their diets.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:08 am
96 Stu
I hold you in the highest regard.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Okay, so this discussion about summit and blue-collar neighborhoods is interesting. I am really on the fence about so called prestigious school districts.
So I am curious, in choosing the right town, what other factors would you look at to help you choose between say 2 blue-collar neighborhoods?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:09 am
54 clot
“It wouldn’t be so bad…except that this whole failure of Fannie/Freddie has been planned from the get-go. ”
you said it from day one.
They’re not even making it look good. Someone should teach them how to do a better flop before they call their own penalty kick.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:10 am
102 afe
The opposite of that though is to say “Look I had to sell off my blah blah blah antique whatchamacallit to pay the mortgage. Feel bad for me. I’m just like you.”
Can you see that? It’s the world’s smallest violin.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Stu
“Anyone else here want to be our neighbors?”
Yes.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:11 am
@87
Bairen,
I don’t have anything empirical but I know Commerce to be very conservative with mortgages and loans in general. However, I think they were doing 100% LTV loans for “civil employees” like Police and Firemen, which they no longer offer.
I’m sure information could be found soon enough as Commerce will be TD Bank in the coming months.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Lost (108)
I guess you are right. The undertones to each seller’s story has moved on now hasn’t it? From “be like me” to “save me”.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but it is still amazing to me to see the thinking of a few years as IndyMac implodes today:
9/26/2005 Los Angeles Business Journal–
“While many on the Street continue to fret about pay-option ARMs and the negative amortization feature, we remain very positive on the product’s interest rate and credit characteristics,” Paul Miller, an analyst at Friedman Billings Ramsey & Co., wrote in a recent report.
Wohl, IndyMac’s president, argues that credit cards have been charging negative amortization to borrowers for decades with very little fallout or criticism. Moreover, homeowners actually have an asset that is likely to appreciate and the interest on it is tax deductible.
“We have financially sophisticated borrowers who have a high degree of understanding what they’re getting into,” he said. “Only a small proportion of borrowers take the negative amortization option anyway.”
July 10th, 2008 at 11:15 am
67 secondary
thanks
July 10th, 2008 at 11:16 am
re the IKEA furniture: I prefer it to the Sopranos-type furniture.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:16 am
clott, 81
how about a Tsar Bomb (largest nuke ever detonated)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c
July 10th, 2008 at 11:16 am
#103 Speaking of which, it’s been a long time since Sally’s been seen in these parts.
Wow, that’s odd. I was just thinking about her the other day. I think she only showed up here a few times but made up for that in sheer obnoxious ignorance.
She was a regular on the the now defunct shorebubble.blogspot.com.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:17 am
70 tosh
“Can the dollar possibly survive the bust and bailout of FNM and FRE?
Or is the plan to not bail them out? Let them go, let the debt die and start a new GSE not saddled with all the junk.”
The plan is to bail them out and to hell with the dollar.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:17 am
I’ve been saying it for years Clotpoll. If I was a state worker, I would be maxing out my IRAs as I have a feeling that those pensions are not going to get paid. At some point, a brave governor will force the pension over to a 401k plan as have almost all private sector companies have.
When a business goes bankrupt and they haven’t been funding their pension obligations, the workers get screwed. Why should it be any different with the state or national government?
Eventually (and it appears to be happening sooner rather than later) our wages will not be able to keep up with our tax increases. If people can’t afford to pay the taxes, the protests will finally occur and there will either be a cut in the government workforce or their bloated benefits. I look forward to this day.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Summit is a blue collar town?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:19 am
2ndary (110)-
Commerce Bank- as of three months ago- doesn’t even have a loss mitigation dept. in Cherry Hill. I tried to negotiate a short sale approval with a bank officer down there, and she stiffed me cold.
I offered her 10K on a 40K HELOC (which, BTW, is a fortune for a second lien these days), and she basically told me that they either wanted the full payoff, or they’d just get a deficiency judgment against the borrower.
All this tells me they don’t exactly have a ton of non-performing stuff. And, you know the Canadian guys coming in are even more whistle-clean than Commerce.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Looks like someone has it all figured out..
Pimco’s Gross scoops up mortgage debt: FT
The widely respected manager of the world’s largest bond fund, Bill Gross, has been buying beaten-down mortgage debt, and the contrarian bet appears to be paying off, the Financial Times reported Friday. Gross, managing director at Pacific Investment Management Co. or Pimco, has tripled his position in mortgage debt, which now represents more than 60% of Pimco Total Return fund, up from 20% a year ago, according to the report. Gross told the FT that Pimco was mainly buying mortgage-agency debt rather than “the subprime garbage.” The bond manager said his call was based on the government’s implicit guarantee to back mortgage giants , the report said. Pimco Total Return fund has gained 11.8% over the past year, well ahead of its peers, according to investment research firm Morningstar Inc
July 10th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Paul Newman
“My offer ws rejected and I was told sellers were offended.”
Every day I get my listings from grim I’m offended. One of these days when my job slows down a tetch I’ll start calling these people to tell them that I was going to make an offer but I was offended by their asking price.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:21 am
75 Nom de Guerre
” With the exception of some brits, I haven’t yet met anyone in summit that I didn’t want to bludgeon with a 7 iron, just on principle.”
Have I mentioned I’m a Brit?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:22 am
114 Patient
I prefer furniture that doesn’t fall apart.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:23 am
#110 secondary,
Thanks. I’m trying to convinve a realtive to close their Wachovia account and switch to a more conservative bank.
By conservative I mean one that is much less likely to implode/get Bear Sterned
July 10th, 2008 at 11:23 am
In 2004, I remember hearing an interview on Bloomberg radio where a Buffet-like investment guru (can’t remember the name) was asked what would be his best long-term investment. He said to short FNM and FRE until they are bankrupt and do nothing else. He based his premise on the overinflated value of residential real-estate. I really wish I remembered who it was as it was probably the most brilliant call I’ve witnessed in my lifetime. I added FNM/FRE to my watch lists and have been watching them daily ever since. Anyone here know who made that call?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:24 am
83 bairen
“Yes if we auction off Hawaii or some territories to the Chinese or Japanese.
Laugh, but historically when an empire’s economic collapse picks up speed they try to sell off their most far flung real estate. We picked up the middle of the US with the Louisiana purchase from France, scored Alaska from Czarist Russia. Now it’s out turn.”
How much do you think we could get for Iraq??
July 10th, 2008 at 11:26 am
#127 njp
Not nearly what it’s costing us.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:26 am
90 rich
“I hate to sound like a bigot…”
I think you get a pass for discriminating against a-holes.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:27 am
@125, I bank there and never had issues.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:29 am
watching CNBC
A stuttering Paulson is not what I would call a calming influence.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:29 am
(201) 204-0022
Type: Land Line
Provider: Eureka Telecom, Inc. DBA Eureka Networks
Location: Jersey City, NJ
This information was provided free of charge by a web based service. You can call Eureka Telecom and complain to them directly about thier client directly.
Often if a tele-marketer doesn’t want you to call them back, a spoofed caller-ID number will appear and apparently this may be one of those numbers.
Phone numbers can change hands now-a-days pretty easily so I have seen reports linking it to both a wireless handset out of Union City, NJ and a land line out of Jersy City, NJ.
A nominal fee from one of these sites can provide you with more information about the phone number.
Other then this, I don’t have anyone that can reverse look up telephone numbers.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:31 am
102 afe
“On the other hand, I guess nothing really distinguishes the quality of my surroundings in my Ikea-furnished rental from those of “NJ’s millionaire home owners”. Plus I am pretty sure I do have some money in the bank.”
You’ve described me, too.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Ron Paul is up now on CNBC.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am
#130 secondary
Wachovia has 180 billion in MBS on its books, 120 billion are arms and option arms from California.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am
108 lost
“The opposite of that though is to say “Look I had to sell off my blah blah blah antique whatchamacallit to pay the mortgage. Feel bad for me. I’m just like you.”
Can you see that? It’s the world’s smallest violin.”
I remember when Ken Lay’s wife was on my teevee telling me how difficult her life was (*sob*) because she and Kenny Boy had had to sell of a coupld of their extra mansions because they simply didn’t have that much cash in the vault (*sniff*) and they were “struggling for liquidity”.
Shoulda called her a waaahmbulance.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Frustrated with the market I am considering building my own home in middlesex co. Anyone has any idea on what is the cost per sq ft for recent constructions ?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:37 am
116 tosh
“She was a regular on the the now defunct shorebubble.blogspot.com.”
She’s probably defunct as well.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:37 am
not to be confused with john, who should be de-funked.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:38 am
@135, right. i bank at Commerce. i didn’t clarify. Ooops.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:39 am
#136 njp
And then Ken Lay allegedly drops dead in front of witnesses, the timing of his demise protecting his estate.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:40 am
are we forming an NJREREPORT enclave? hostile takeover of summit/chatam?
Hey NJP, you are M&A, do you want to run the legal on this?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:40 am
#97 Clot:In less than two years, I’ve gone from fairly bullish, to bear…and now, I honestly believe that we could be on the brink of what can only be described as a multi-sector depression.
And yet it appears the majority of people do not have a clue. Although much of the euphoria of real estate has dissipated over the last couple of years, replaced by a strabge silence.
I still do feel at times like the analogy my wife used during the height of the real estate madness.
” We appear to be the only 2 sane people in an insane asylum.”
July 10th, 2008 at 11:40 am
lost
“I prefer furniture that doesn’t fall apart.”
Ridiculous.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:43 am
All this talk about Summit… I posted this last night, but it was fairly late. I’ll repost…
Summit Comp Killers?
Just looking through some sales in Summit. There were a good number that sold at 2003-2005 prices with the buyer paying only slightly more to cover realtors commission, netting the seller no gain or a small loss. On an inflation adjusted basis, it would have been a loss. Here are some that caught my eye:
20 RUTHVEN PL
07/29/05 - 1250000
02/06/08 - 1150000
69 TEMPLAR WAY
06/25/02 - 1595000
01/16/08 - 1701000
328 MOUNTAIN AVE
02/27/08 - 2025000
07/08/05 - 2275000
July 10th, 2008 at 11:43 am
look at all of the crap changing hands today:
http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/omo/dmm/temp.cfm
July 10th, 2008 at 11:44 am
I want to put up a quote from a RE agent on another site. This is the type of drivel that just makes me mistrust RE agents.
“I can only speak realistically to my market ( Philadelphia Pa, South and Central NJ). In this area if you want to buy, now is an excellant time ! Reasons are as follows: Interest Rates are still historically low ( if you qualify), number of homes on the market are stabalizing (slightly declined as compared to last year), home prices are stable ( median resale home price up app 3% over 1st half compared to 07), competition from other buyers is down ( due to tightened mortgage eligibilty requirements). In closing this market is probably in better shape than other areas due to continuing high rates of employment and income levels.”
1. Interest rates are historically low.
You can refinance your loan, you cannot refinance your purchase price. A higher interest rate means even lower purchase prices.
2. Number of homes on the market are stabalizing.
How can homes be stabilizing if home sales are down 4.7% over last month. You are probably outright lying at this point.
3. Home prices are stable.
Ok, now your insulting my intelligence.
4. Competition from other buyers is down.
Which is why you should wait or lowball like mad.
5. We have high rates of employment and income.
The jobs that leave the market first are the ones to illegals. A vast majority of our economy (illegal immigrants) goes unrecorded and unfortunately we don’t report unemployment data on them. They are a real part of our enconomy and to discount them is foolish.
Other comments?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:44 am
#123 njpatient: My English cousins do not like the term Brit. They prefer English.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:45 am
142 ket
“are we forming an NJREREPORT enclave? hostile takeover of summit/chatam?
Hey NJP, you are M&A, do you want to run the legal on this?”
No controlling legal authority, don’tcha know. We’ll launch a hostile tender offer, and since we don’t have to be subject to the all-holders/best-price rule, we’ll inform the locals that after the first 51% of properties are tendered, we’ll lower our offer price.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:49 am
148 3b
“#123 njpatient: My English cousins do not like the term Brit. They prefer English.”
That’s because they want it to be clear that they’re not Welsh or Scottish, g*d forbid.
My father also gets mad if I describe England as being part of Europe.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Stu - 118 - pension benefits.
I’m all for that. I think NJ is headed for that trainwreck.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:50 am
“A stuttering Paulson is not what I would call a calming influence.”
Sean [131],
Defending Fannie/Freddie, like his past dollar jawboning, while his buddies sell the crap out of them?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Nicholas, thx.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:54 am
3b & njp,
What do they think of being called Poms and Pommies by the Australians?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:55 am
It’s not really a recession! You just THINK it is!! It’s the media’s fault! No, wait, it’s the fault of regular citizens who … have the wrong kind of thoughts in their heads!!
We’re doomed.
http://tinyurl.com/57mg7p
In an interview with the Washington Times, Phil Gramm, a former Texas senator who is now vice chairman of UBS, the giant Swiss bank, said he expects Mr. McCain to inherit a sluggish economy if he wins the presidency, weighed down above all by the conviction of many Americans that economic conditions are the worst in two or three decades and that America is in decline.
“You’ve heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession,” he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. “We may have a recession; we haven’t had one yet.”
“We have sort of become a nation of whiners,” he said. “You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline” despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Pat,
Some additional data forthcomming on further web searches. This data looks like the lat long of the last cell tower the guy made a call from. Thats just a guess though. It may be the reported location of the land line.
(201) 204-0022
Jersey City, NJ
CARRIER:
TIME ZONE: 10:53 AM EST
COUNTY: Hudson
LATITUDE: 40.71
LONGITUDE: 74.03
July 10th, 2008 at 11:56 am
It’s not really a recession! You just THINK it is!! It’s the media’s fault! No, wait, it’s the fault of regular citizens who … have the wrong kind of thoughts in their heads!!
We’re doomed.
http://tinyurl.com/57mg7p
In an interview with the Washington Times, Phil Gramm, a former Texas senator who is now vice chairman of UBS, the giant Swiss bank, said he expects Mr. McC*in to inherit a sluggish economy if he wins the presidency, weighed down above all by the conviction of many Americans that economic conditions are the worst in two or three decades and that America is in decline.
“You’ve heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession,” he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. “We may have a recession; we haven’t had one yet.”
“We have sort of become a nation of whiners,” he said. “You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline” despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:56 am
#154 Nver heard that term.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:57 am
bairen
“What do they think of being called Poms and Pommies by the Australians?”
They don’t care for the opinions of criminals.
July 10th, 2008 at 11:59 am
#156 Njpatient: I have no idea what Mr. Gramm is talking about. That was one of the most incoherent ramblings I have read in some time.
But than again, why am I surpirsed?
July 10th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Grim,
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=eaaa2234-298b-41b3-97ad-aef9b628c09e
When are is Faux business gonna do a segment on you and NJREREPORT.
Aaron is one cool customer.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
“despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy”
From 156,
Phil, no mention of our crippled dollar and that effect on our exports?
July 10th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
“I prefer furniture that doesn’t fall apart.”
This is very hard to find as most domestic furniture manufacturing (quality) which used to occur in the Carolinas has moved to China (crapola). Best bet is to purchase antiques or build it yourself.
Three years ago, went crib and baby room shopping for our little Ryan. Nothing at Babies ‘R’ us or Buy Buy Baby was even remotely decent. All drawer fronts were hot glued and not a dovetail joint (nor screws) in sight. Almost considered the Walmart metal crib. Went to a baby furniture specialist and discovered morigeau lepine. This stuff is the real deal. Eventually acquired some floor models. If my parents ever sell their home in Jackson (they are RE morons) I get their quality furniture. Bedroom set is an Asian design purchased in the 50s. It’s black teak with red trim and gold carvings. Drawers are ivory. Coolest stuff ever!
July 10th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
#157 & 158
It’s what the Aussies call the Brits, ehh.. English.
The Aussies aren’t sure how it started. They think maybe it’s from the criminals sent to OZ were “Property of his/her Majesty Service”. POMS for short.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
4.95$ will get you this guys…
name
address
property information
average income
average home value
criminal records
address history
bankrupcies
lawsuits
relative’s names
addresses
Kinda scary…
July 10th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Grim 162 in mod. I wrote cr*pola! Whoops.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
#150 njpatient: I don’t know. I thought that perhaps because of their Irish background (parents), that may be the reason they prefer English. I also have 1 cousin who lives in Scotland, married to a Scots girl.
I will ask them when they come to NY in the Fall, on yet another shopping trip.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Gotta love how people will fly several hours just for shopping. The US has become the bargain bin of the world!
July 10th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
“Gotta love how people will fly several hours just for shopping.”
I see hoardes of them every morning on the way to my office. At first you think they are gay because of the outfits, then you notice they are holding hands with a woman and you realize they are just European.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I too have noticed an increase in lis pendens filing in Ocean County. My realtor says they are not real that most will get the money before it goes further into foreclosure. They keep pushing their listings to me. I am willing to wait a year or two but am willing to buy now if I find a great house at a great price. I know a couple of house that are lis pendens repeatedly every 3-4 months over the year. What does that mean? Is the process so backlogged that they get to live rent free for years? When I ask the realtors about these properties, they just say they are not on the market. Who should I approach to see these properties? TIA
July 10th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Sean Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am
re: #83 or we could expand into Canada.
Commanderbob sez: Actually there was discussion about the possibility of the Maritime provinces (Nova-Scotia) “joining” the USA ‘if’ Quebec formed a separate State. This was when the French-speaking areas of Canada felt that they were getting ’short-changed’ by the English-speaking rest of Canada…At first, if I remember correctly, the majority of Canada fought against this idea…Then later after they had some time to think about it, they said (in effect) Go-Ahead split up. But then Quebec voted down the separatist candidates who pushed for this (Quebec-quoit ?)…..Now I guess all in well in the Great White North….
BOB
July 10th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
@167
L O friggn’ L!
July 10th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
skeptic - Know what you mean. I’m in tourist central working here at Rockefeller Center. I’m still amazed though at the amount of over bloated Americans waddling around 5th Ave.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Could someone please give me an address for the following MLS# 2541842?
thank you
July 10th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
OT,
Iran caught photoshopping its press release photo;s of its recent missile test!!! LOL
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/irans_photoshoppery_guards/
July 10th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
OT,
Iran caught photoshopping its press release photo;s of its recent missile test!!! LOL
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/irans_photoshoppery_guards/
Someone discovered the “clone” tool :)
July 10th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
There are still 17.4 months of homes for sale in Prince George’s County, MD.
Phew…and I thought that if I didn’t hurry then I would never get a house, seems there are still plenty left.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
OT again sry….
regarding warrentless wiretapping
take a look
http://www.aclu.org/images/safefree/puc_ad052406.gif
July 10th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
“still amazed though at the amount of over bloated Americans waddling around 5th Ave.”
yes, at least the euros don’t take up so much sidewalk space!
July 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
#177
Could be the start of a new game show.
Hang out on 5th ave and play “Guess who is the American” as the people walk/waddle past.
It’s actually a lot of fun. I used to play it with friends in Sydney.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
#175 nicholas: From what I am told there is several years worth of inventory on the market in Ocean City MD.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
New question to ask your prospective RE agent.
“Six months of inventory is considered a healthy market. If four months of inventory put upward pressure on the price of housing and eight months put downward pressure on housing, what does 17.4 months of inventory mean?”
July 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Tom [137],
“Anyone has any idea on what is the cost per sq ft for recent constructions ?”
A builder recently told me about $125 per square foot.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
#177/178 - I don’t know about that. The French and Japanese are thin but the English are certainly trying to give us a run for our money in the “waddling butter-ball” category.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
#180 what does 17.4 months of inventory mean?”
To which the realtor would reply: Hurry bring your check book.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
#182 toshiro,
Body language, haircuts, clothing and accessories are also part of the overall view.
There are a lot of porkers in Australia too.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
I get so frustrated with the real estate agents who insist on posting on city-data in response to questions regarding “can I afford this house”
or can I afford to live on in St. David’s on my CSR salary of $29k? Invariably, they respond, “Oh, of course!!!”
Number one, it should be illegal for a real estate agent to give financial advice.
Number two, it should be unnecessary for an adult citizen with the required 8th grade education to ask this question. How to use a simple paycheck calculator on dinkytown or paycheckcity should be required prior to entering the 9th grade.
Number four, why am I spelling out the numbers?
Number five, I am angry at myself that I get this worked up about this.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
go to any mall in america as well
see the fat discusting teens
its a disgrace
July 10th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Nicholas, I was saved by the hand of fate back in maybe 1995 or 1996 by cell tower data. Remember when you could see where peeps were calling you from?
This baaaad dude from Trenton was scamming me and the cell tower info saved me. I wish that was still on the bills, now that I’m going to have a teenage daughter in six years.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
3b and Pat,
Yes but Suzanne researched this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubsd-tWYmZw
July 10th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
That is by and far my most very special video which shows a near emasculation which concludes by being driven wholesale into a purchase ruled solely on the concept that “Suzanne researched this”.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Nicholas, oh very young, sweet and innocent soul, didn’t you get the memo? Suzanne was fired:
http://www.seriouseats.com/required_eating/2007/10/photo-of-the-day-custom-cake-from-walmart.html
July 10th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
re summit. renting for 2 years in town as it’s a good train schedule for me to hobok (don’t consider myself in a**hole category). two listing i jog by on Ashland, nice road, one 599 the other in 800’s. the listings are seperated by two houses. My sister rationalized the diffrence in house cost as the higher one was amazing finish inside w/more bath and rooms. Both 30 days i think on. Same street two other listings close by sitting, sitting, sitting. Even Two others have gone under contract more quickly recently. One more listing just off street is for rent. All i mention within two/three minute walk i’d say.
July 10th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
@185
Pat:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair
July 10th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
English dudes may be chubby, but you can always tell them apart by their buzz cuts, vampire-like pallor and tendency to wear clothes like the below:
http://www.profilebrighton.co.uk/collections/dolce-and-gabbana/products/dolce-gabbana-sweatshirt
July 10th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
And the teeth.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
re: building cost -
the construction cost can vary wildly based upon what you are trying to build. I have been quoted 200-225/sf in way north jersey for a really nice build quality (nice finishes, mouldings, wood floors, tray ceilings in places etc). My guess is that these prices will come under pressure as existing projects wrap up and there are no more in the pipeline.
also, I guess it depends upon where in jersey you are.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Truth leaks out Fed does not care about you!
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/fed-doesnt-want-you-get/story.aspx?guid=%7BE16371FF%2DFC85%2D4EE3%2D8179%2D0DEB909CEDE2%7D
July 10th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I think Grim would look fab in that jacket (194) ;)
July 10th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
It kinda sorta reminds me of the color block crush valor worn by many North Jersey dudes when they’re down the shore.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
[158] Patient
Oooohh, smackdown on the Ozzies!
Next time I run into the cross-pond accent at Cosimos, I will reply “is that you Patient?”
July 10th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
[175] nick
There’s a reason there is so much inventory in PG county. No one wants to be there. Neither do you.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Sean, that is absolute rubbish. The Fed should realize that inflation will not temper if wages remain stagnant, even if we reduce demand it is not like the old days where the economy was more localized and like a closed system. The demand in China and India will not let up and the dollar will by less and less while we are taking a pay cut. Hence my stagflation call unless the fed acts to shore up the dollar currency traders will beat us into submission and we will experience slow economic growth and inflation.
July 10th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
“Six months of inventory is considered a healthy market. If four months of inventory put upward pressure on the price of housing and eight months put downward pressure on housing, what does 17.4 months of inventory mean?”
Now more choices than ever!…but you had better hurry!!!
July 10th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
200 Nom
Cosimos catered our move this weekend.
Apparently I lost my accent around the age of 5, although I still get ribbed for pronouncing the word “been” as, well, been (as opposed to bin or ben, which is what I am told are the accepted American pronunciations).
July 10th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Kettle,
You’ll love reading this.
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Environment/documents/2008/07/10/Biofuels.PDF
Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75% - far more than previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report obtained by the Guardian.
The damning unpublished assessment is based on the most detailed analysis of the crisis so far, carried out by an internationally-respected economist at global financial body.
The figure emphatically contradicts the US government’s claims that plant-derived fuels contribute less than 3% to food-price rises. It will add to pressure on governments in Washington and across Europe, which have turned to plant-derived fuels to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and reduce their dependence on imported oil.
Senior development sources believe the report, completed in April, has not been published to avoid embarrassing President George Bush.
“It would put the World Bank in a political hot-spot with the White House,” said one yesterday.
The news comes at a critical point in the world’s negotiations on biofuels policy. Leaders of the G8 industrialised countries meet next week in Hokkaido, Japan, where they will discuss the food crisis and come under intense lobbying from campaigners calling for a moratorium on the use of plant-derived fuels.
It will also put pressure on the British government, which is due to release its own report on the impact of biofuels, the Gallagher Report. The Guardian has previously reported that the British