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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the system itself the advice?   A government may create a public works project to build a system (bridge), but the vehicles that drive over the bridge don&#039;t necessarily need to be public entities.


The government essential built the internet.  

Does that mean that the government tells us how to use it?  Where to go?  How much to pay for various services?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the system itself the advice?   A government may create a public works project to build a system (bridge), but the vehicles that drive over the bridge don&#8217;t necessarily need to be public entities.</p>
<p>The government essential built the internet.  </p>
<p>Does that mean that the government tells us how to use it?  Where to go?  How much to pay for various services?</p>
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		<title>By: yikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>yikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but pat, if you have the government essentially telling you how to invest, what to invest in, and pulling the strings ... what do you think will happen?

i do agree a large segment of the population is stupid and doesn&#039;t save and wastes money ... but i just dont see how governmental programs will help people all of a sudden &quot;see the light.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but pat, if you have the government essentially telling you how to invest, what to invest in, and pulling the strings &#8230; what do you think will happen?</p>
<p>i do agree a large segment of the population is stupid and doesn&#8217;t save and wastes money &#8230; but i just dont see how governmental programs will help people all of a sudden &#8220;see the light.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yikes.   This is similar to designing a new global financial system that has &quot;fee-less&quot; components.   Socialization of certain risks that should be born by the few who profit from having a system available to them,

For example, most banks that are large enough can eliminate fee checking for many patrons.  Just about anyone starting out can find a free checking offer. This indicates to me that this should be a free service of the system.   No ill-informed consumer should be paying certain fees simply because of an educational gap.

Financial advice would work up to this free level eventually, if you follow the educational pyramid of logic.   No one should pay for a service that is available for free to those to know how to get it for free.

It&#039;s another internet benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yikes.   This is similar to designing a new global financial system that has &#8220;fee-less&#8221; components.   Socialization of certain risks that should be born by the few who profit from having a system available to them,</p>
<p>For example, most banks that are large enough can eliminate fee checking for many patrons.  Just about anyone starting out can find a free checking offer. This indicates to me that this should be a free service of the system.   No ill-informed consumer should be paying certain fees simply because of an educational gap.</p>
<p>Financial advice would work up to this free level eventually, if you follow the educational pyramid of logic.   No one should pay for a service that is available for free to those to know how to get it for free.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s another internet benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No commenting in a long while, but I still look in now and again. 

Grim your &quot;Rube Goldberg&quot; comment in the election thread was priceless.

And since I&#039;m here, I think I might be an angel of death or something. In O4, after years in the newspaper business, I got a job in the housing industry. This year, I began working in the &quot;gaming&quot; industry. Just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No commenting in a long while, but I still look in now and again. </p>
<p>Grim your &#8220;Rube Goldberg&#8221; comment in the election thread was priceless.</p>
<p>And since I&#8217;m here, I think I might be an angel of death or something. In O4, after years in the newspaper business, I got a job in the housing industry. This year, I began working in the &#8220;gaming&#8221; industry. Just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: yikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>yikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Shiller a lot. Really do. 

but anyone have thoughts on this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/business/09shiller.html?_r=1&amp;ref=business&amp;oref=slogin

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The financial crisis that afflicts the country is largely a result of speculative bubbles, built on false hopes, in the housing and stock markets. Many Americans thought that they would rise in the economic hierarchy from one or another of these investments, and their disappointment is profound. As dreams have been lost, the gap between the wealthiest and those struggling to provide basic items for their families will become more evident and more painful.

The best way to battle gratuitous inequality is to make our financial institutions better embody the true principles of risk management. Financial theory is all about incentives for people to work effectively, and diversifying against random shocks by sharing them among many investors. At its essence, finance is really more about helping and sharing than “beating the market.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Later in the article, he essentially calls for the govt to provide financial advisers for the people. At least i think he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Shiller a lot. Really do. </p>
<p>but anyone have thoughts on this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/business/09shiller.html?_r=1&amp;ref=business&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/business/09shiller.html?_r=1&amp;ref=business&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The financial crisis that afflicts the country is largely a result of speculative bubbles, built on false hopes, in the housing and stock markets. Many Americans thought that they would rise in the economic hierarchy from one or another of these investments, and their disappointment is profound. As dreams have been lost, the gap between the wealthiest and those struggling to provide basic items for their families will become more evident and more painful.</p>
<p>The best way to battle gratuitous inequality is to make our financial institutions better embody the true principles of risk management. Financial theory is all about incentives for people to work effectively, and diversifying against random shocks by sharing them among many investors. At its essence, finance is really more about helping and sharing than “beating the market.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Later in the article, he essentially calls for the govt to provide financial advisers for the people. At least i think he does.</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grim (439)-

I doubt Ranieri will end up living under an overpass.

The real story here are the hundreds of other smaller banks that are about to be wiped out due to exposure to failing commercial RE/construction loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grim (439)-</p>
<p>I doubt Ranieri will end up living under an overpass.</p>
<p>The real story here are the hundreds of other smaller banks that are about to be wiped out due to exposure to failing commercial RE/construction loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/11/07/weekend-open-discussion-138/#comment-239517</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122341998131613065.html

Bailout Includes Key Tax Breaks</description>
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<p>Bailout Includes Key Tax Breaks</p>
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		<title>By: grim</title>
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		<dc:creator>grim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ranieri Becomes Victim&lt;/i&gt;

Not sure whether to be surprised at this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ranieri Becomes Victim</i></p>
<p>Not sure whether to be surprised at this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Shore Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shore Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skinks?  Last time I saw any of those was in the Statehouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skinks?  Last time I saw any of those was in the Statehouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Shore Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shore Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Start tearing out your walls, folks:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hHJNCy_68fJtiIPaltzwBwynBdkAD94AUVCO0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start tearing out your walls, folks:</p>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hHJNCy_68fJtiIPaltzwBwynBdkAD94AUVCO0" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hHJNCy_68fJtiIPaltzwBwynBdkAD94AUVCO0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m not against the bailout either. I’m against income redistribution and taking my damn money away from me and giving it out as welfare.&quot;

How do you make it in to bed each night with your head constantly spinning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not against the bailout either. I’m against income redistribution and taking my damn money away from me and giving it out as welfare.&#8221;</p>
<p>How do you make it in to bed each night with your head constantly spinning?</p>
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		<title>By: Essex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NJ already makes it tough to get a gun. Just another example of how great lawmakers are protecting the average person....and letting the lawlessness of Camden and Irvington become a joke to the rest of the world. In PA, you simply walk in a store show ID and buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJ already makes it tough to get a gun. Just another example of how great lawmakers are protecting the average person&#8230;.and letting the lawlessness of Camden and Irvington become a joke to the rest of the world. In PA, you simply walk in a store show ID and buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nom Deplume</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2008/11/07/weekend-open-discussion-138/#comment-239499</link>
		<dc:creator>Nom Deplume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the folks considering getting a gun.  

If you have a pretty good idea what you want in terms of caliber, don&#039;t fret about guns being outlawed.  The Heller case in DC this past year secured the individual right.  I have little fear that they will become unavailable to legit citizens.

However, the Heller case said nothing about ammo, and the gun grabbers have focused on curbing ammo sales as a way to make guns useless to ordinary citizens.  Presently, there are two bills in NJ that would make ammo riduculously expensive, so expensive it would be unavailable.  I dont think that such &quot;inverse condemnation&quot; would survive in court, but it takes a long time to get a case to the Supremes.

The second risk is permits.  NJ cannot take away your right to own, but they can make it damn hard to get a permit, and will ratchet up the fees for it.  Irrespective of the election, I expect towns to jack up these fees to capture revenues, especially since they are expecting a flood of applications. 

In my considered, legal, opinion, anyone considering owning a gun eventually should apply IMMEDIATELY for the requisite permits.  Its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.   Get in now before prices go up.

Also, especially if you can do so now legally in some places, such as in PA, purchase the ammo. Don&#039;t bother with rifle ammo---that wont be made illegal.  Get handgun ammo in a caliber that you expect to buy, such as 9mm.

Finally, when you are ready (and properly permitted), find and select your gun.  By waiting, you avoid the shelf-clearing panic buying going on right now.  Many of these guns are bought for resale.  Don&#039;t buy the hype that you have to buy before 1/20/09.

Remember, NJ or the feds can&#039;t attack gun ownership directly, so the only remaining avenues of attack are to make ammo expensive and scarce, and to make licensing hard.  

Beat them before they try to restrict your rights, and send a strong signal to Trenton and the transition team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the folks considering getting a gun.  </p>
<p>If you have a pretty good idea what you want in terms of caliber, don&#8217;t fret about guns being outlawed.  The Heller case in DC this past year secured the individual right.  I have little fear that they will become unavailable to legit citizens.</p>
<p>However, the Heller case said nothing about ammo, and the gun grabbers have focused on curbing ammo sales as a way to make guns useless to ordinary citizens.  Presently, there are two bills in NJ that would make ammo riduculously expensive, so expensive it would be unavailable.  I dont think that such &#8220;inverse condemnation&#8221; would survive in court, but it takes a long time to get a case to the Supremes.</p>
<p>The second risk is permits.  NJ cannot take away your right to own, but they can make it damn hard to get a permit, and will ratchet up the fees for it.  Irrespective of the election, I expect towns to jack up these fees to capture revenues, especially since they are expecting a flood of applications. </p>
<p>In my considered, legal, opinion, anyone considering owning a gun eventually should apply IMMEDIATELY for the requisite permits.  Its better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.   Get in now before prices go up.</p>
<p>Also, especially if you can do so now legally in some places, such as in PA, purchase the ammo. Don&#8217;t bother with rifle ammo&#8212;that wont be made illegal.  Get handgun ammo in a caliber that you expect to buy, such as 9mm.</p>
<p>Finally, when you are ready (and properly permitted), find and select your gun.  By waiting, you avoid the shelf-clearing panic buying going on right now.  Many of these guns are bought for resale.  Don&#8217;t buy the hype that you have to buy before 1/20/09.</p>
<p>Remember, NJ or the feds can&#8217;t attack gun ownership directly, so the only remaining avenues of attack are to make ammo expensive and scarce, and to make licensing hard.  </p>
<p>Beat them before they try to restrict your rights, and send a strong signal to Trenton and the transition team.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won some more in AC this weekend as I went down there to pick up a free cruise.  Saw a Wawa around Fort Dix that was selling regular for $1.95 a gallon.  WOW!

Went down to AC with $30 in wallet.  Casino&#039;s gave me about $210 in cash.  Came home with $1350.  There&#039;s a little noodle shop hidden in Showboat that has pretty decent Asian eats for AC.  Had their Roast Duck with Bok Choy (awesome) and some Kim Chee (weak) this time.  All in all, I couldn&#039;t complain.  Showboat was busy on Friday Night for the Dropkick Murphy&#039;s, but dead Saturday.  Bally&#039;s was dead both Friday and Saturday.  On the bright side, Showboat had $5 blackjack tables on Saturday.  Hadn&#039;t seen a $5 table in ages in there.  Typically they are $15 on Saturday.

Enjoy your Sundays folks.  

Me happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won some more in AC this weekend as I went down there to pick up a free cruise.  Saw a Wawa around Fort Dix that was selling regular for $1.95 a gallon.  WOW!</p>
<p>Went down to AC with $30 in wallet.  Casino&#8217;s gave me about $210 in cash.  Came home with $1350.  There&#8217;s a little noodle shop hidden in Showboat that has pretty decent Asian eats for AC.  Had their Roast Duck with Bok Choy (awesome) and some Kim Chee (weak) this time.  All in all, I couldn&#8217;t complain.  Showboat was busy on Friday Night for the Dropkick Murphy&#8217;s, but dead Saturday.  Bally&#8217;s was dead both Friday and Saturday.  On the bright side, Showboat had $5 blackjack tables on Saturday.  Hadn&#8217;t seen a $5 table in ages in there.  Typically they are $15 on Saturday.</p>
<p>Enjoy your Sundays folks.  </p>
<p>Me happy.</p>
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		<title>By: bi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHRIS MATTHEWS: Yeah, well, you know what? I want to do everything I can to make this thing work, this new presidency work, and I think that --

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Is that your job? You just talked about being a journalist!

MATTHEWS: Yeah, it is my job. My job is to help this country.

Matthews wasn&#039;t done with his odd new job description . . . An incredulous Scarborough kept pressing, astonished at such a complete 180 from Matthews&#039;s repeated insistence during the GWB presidency that he had to hold the government accountable. 

SCARBOROUGH: Your job is the make this presidency work? 

MATTHEWS: To make this work successfully. This country needs a successful presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHRIS MATTHEWS: Yeah, well, you know what? I want to do everything I can to make this thing work, this new presidency work, and I think that &#8211;</p>
<p>JOE SCARBOROUGH: Is that your job? You just talked about being a journalist!</p>
<p>MATTHEWS: Yeah, it is my job. My job is to help this country.</p>
<p>Matthews wasn&#8217;t done with his odd new job description . . . An incredulous Scarborough kept pressing, astonished at such a complete 180 from Matthews&#8217;s repeated insistence during the GWB presidency that he had to hold the government accountable. </p>
<p>SCARBOROUGH: Your job is the make this presidency work? </p>
<p>MATTHEWS: To make this work successfully. This country needs a successful presidency.</p>
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