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		<title>By: PeterMontee</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/06/19/weekend-open-discussion-158/#comment-309900</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterMontee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absurdity what that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absurdity what that</p>
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		<title>By: LeraJenkins</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/06/19/weekend-open-discussion-158/#comment-308143</link>
		<dc:creator>LeraJenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is draw?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is draw?</p>
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		<title>By: sas</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/06/19/weekend-open-discussion-158/#comment-306954</link>
		<dc:creator>sas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clot,

i know it sounds off, but the back after the fall of the curtain, and the push of NATO further to the east, had serious ramifications, that if you start connecting dots, they started to to give birth to the bubbles (RE).

basically, they gave labor &amp; delivery to the creature, and the creature did its damage.

i know i am speaking in sas&#039;ism...
i will be clearer in future as my buddy and I up in Boston weed through the archives.

Its just some food for thought.
SAS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clot,</p>
<p>i know it sounds off, but the back after the fall of the curtain, and the push of NATO further to the east, had serious ramifications, that if you start connecting dots, they started to to give birth to the bubbles (RE).</p>
<p>basically, they gave labor &amp; delivery to the creature, and the creature did its damage.</p>
<p>i know i am speaking in sas&#8217;ism&#8230;<br />
i will be clearer in future as my buddy and I up in Boston weed through the archives.</p>
<p>Its just some food for thought.<br />
SAS</p>
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		<title>By: sas</title>
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		<dc:creator>sas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ketle1 &amp; yome,

thoughts?

&quot;China&#039;s refined oil consumption hits record in May&quot;
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-refined-oil-consumption-hits-record-in-may

SAS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ketle1 &amp; yome,</p>
<p>thoughts?</p>
<p>&#8220;China&#8217;s refined oil consumption hits record in May&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-refined-oil-consumption-hits-record-in-may" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-refined-oil-consumption-hits-record-in-may</a></p>
<p>SAS</p>
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		<title>By: sas</title>
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		<dc:creator>sas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;punch cigars suck.&quot;

well, i always liked the cuban punch. they made them a little stronger down there.  but, i admit, i don&#039;t know all there is to know about cigars.  

SAS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;punch cigars suck.&#8221;</p>
<p>well, i always liked the cuban punch. they made them a little stronger down there.  but, i admit, i don&#8217;t know all there is to know about cigars.  </p>
<p>SAS</p>
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		<title>By: syncmaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clot #238,

Indians also have a similar cultural affinity to buying &#039;new&#039; (I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve noticed). Part of the &#039;experience&#039; is calling your peeps back in India and telling them you bought new, no prestige in buying &#039;used&#039;, just like buying a used car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clot #238,</p>
<p>Indians also have a similar cultural affinity to buying &#8216;new&#8217; (I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve noticed). Part of the &#8216;experience&#8217; is calling your peeps back in India and telling them you bought new, no prestige in buying &#8216;used&#8217;, just like buying a used car.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won $60, but should have won more.  My last bet was a $1 tri box w/ 4 horse in a 6 horse race.  The favorite was 2/5 and I left him out since his last race, which he won by a mile, was an abomination and otherwise he was not top 5.  Well I caught the Los Alamitos 5th race triple with a 4-1, 5-1 and 10-1 finish for 1st, 2nd and 3rd.  Damn triple only paid $124.  I was robbed.  The 2-5 finished in 4th.  I suppose the 6 horse field diluted the trifecta pole.  Better than losing I suppose.

Kettle1,

Thanks for the China updates.  As you know, I&#039;m underwater on my FXP play.  Waiting for a double down still.  I heard similar things about their RE.  The only negative is that they really don&#039;t have much of a dangerous mortgage market like we have.  I do feel that all of their numbers are total BS though.  This coupled with ChiFi&#039;s posting of a second dip this fall keeps me feeling optimistic.

Good night all and happy father&#039;s day to those who are crazy enough to have kids in this economic environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won $60, but should have won more.  My last bet was a $1 tri box w/ 4 horse in a 6 horse race.  The favorite was 2/5 and I left him out since his last race, which he won by a mile, was an abomination and otherwise he was not top 5.  Well I caught the Los Alamitos 5th race triple with a 4-1, 5-1 and 10-1 finish for 1st, 2nd and 3rd.  Damn triple only paid $124.  I was robbed.  The 2-5 finished in 4th.  I suppose the 6 horse field diluted the trifecta pole.  Better than losing I suppose.</p>
<p>Kettle1,</p>
<p>Thanks for the China updates.  As you know, I&#8217;m underwater on my FXP play.  Waiting for a double down still.  I heard similar things about their RE.  The only negative is that they really don&#8217;t have much of a dangerous mortgage market like we have.  I do feel that all of their numbers are total BS though.  This coupled with ChiFi&#8217;s posting of a second dip this fall keeps me feeling optimistic.</p>
<p>Good night all and happy father&#8217;s day to those who are crazy enough to have kids in this economic environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good night, and good luck:

&quot;It seems that many Chinese buy real estate because they view it as a “can’t lose” investment (sound familiar?). They don’t often rent out the space. It is not as easy to rent residential space in China, because anybody who can would rather buy a new house, partly because of the prestige value, but also partly because they believe that real estate is a “can’t lose” investment. Evidently they have the belief that at some point in the future, they could always sell the property, since it is still technically “new.” Remember, there is at best only a very small secondary market in real estate in China. Nobody in China goes shopping for a “used” home, they always look for a home in brand new developments. These are typically high rise apartment buildings that are really not very attractive at all by our standards (with some exceptions in parts of Beijing and some of the other largest cities). They often look more like tenement slums, particularly after they age a few years, because nobody does much painting or landscaping in Chinese residential areas. I have never seen housing tracts like the ones that are so common in the US, and I suppose they exist somewhere to a very limited extent, but I never even saw any single-family free-standing homes. It’s all high rise condo/apartment buildings. I realize this is kind of paradoxical…..that Chinese would believe they can always make money selling a home second-hand despite the fact that the secondary market is small or even nonexistent in places. But, that’s China. I think they are less concerned with actually realizing a gain, than in maintaining a paper gain. Again, a not insignificant factor here is the prestige value.&quot;

http://www.feer.com/economics/2009/june53/Chinas-Real-Estate-Riddle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good night, and good luck:</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems that many Chinese buy real estate because they view it as a “can’t lose” investment (sound familiar?). They don’t often rent out the space. It is not as easy to rent residential space in China, because anybody who can would rather buy a new house, partly because of the prestige value, but also partly because they believe that real estate is a “can’t lose” investment. Evidently they have the belief that at some point in the future, they could always sell the property, since it is still technically “new.” Remember, there is at best only a very small secondary market in real estate in China. Nobody in China goes shopping for a “used” home, they always look for a home in brand new developments. These are typically high rise apartment buildings that are really not very attractive at all by our standards (with some exceptions in parts of Beijing and some of the other largest cities). They often look more like tenement slums, particularly after they age a few years, because nobody does much painting or landscaping in Chinese residential areas. I have never seen housing tracts like the ones that are so common in the US, and I suppose they exist somewhere to a very limited extent, but I never even saw any single-family free-standing homes. It’s all high rise condo/apartment buildings. I realize this is kind of paradoxical…..that Chinese would believe they can always make money selling a home second-hand despite the fact that the secondary market is small or even nonexistent in places. But, that’s China. I think they are less concerned with actually realizing a gain, than in maintaining a paper gain. Again, a not insignificant factor here is the prestige value.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.feer.com/economics/2009/june53/Chinas-Real-Estate-Riddle" rel="nofollow">http://www.feer.com/economics/2009/june53/Chinas-Real-Estate-Riddle</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kodiak (236)-

Seller Disclosures are worthless documents.  They are only made in order to absolve the Realtor of the liability of non-disclosure.  Use your home inspection report as the document that will guide you in assessing the condition of your purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kodiak (236)-</p>
<p>Seller Disclosures are worthless documents.  They are only made in order to absolve the Realtor of the liability of non-disclosure.  Use your home inspection report as the document that will guide you in assessing the condition of your purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: kodiak</title>
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		<dc:creator>kodiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GRIM and/or CLOT and/or other NJ real estate agents:
I just signed a contract to purchase a home, before having been given the Seller&#039;s Disclosure. Now I was given a copy of it, and am very surprised to find it discloses that the basement is not heated. The basement is a walk-out with very high ceilings and several totally finished rooms, including a big full bathroom, a kitchen, an office, and a home theater family room -- most of which was very strongly advertised as selling points in the listing and promotional materials as comprising the fantastic finished basement.  My question: was that ok per real estate ethics rules for it to be listed as a finished basement, with all the touting of those rooms in the listing and promotional material, when there&#039;s no heat? We are only beginning attorney review, so I&#039;m free to get out of the deal if I&#039;m not happy with this discovery, but if I do go forward with the deal, I don&#039;t know if it would be unreasonable or not to make an issue of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GRIM and/or CLOT and/or other NJ real estate agents:<br />
I just signed a contract to purchase a home, before having been given the Seller&#8217;s Disclosure. Now I was given a copy of it, and am very surprised to find it discloses that the basement is not heated. The basement is a walk-out with very high ceilings and several totally finished rooms, including a big full bathroom, a kitchen, an office, and a home theater family room &#8212; most of which was very strongly advertised as selling points in the listing and promotional materials as comprising the fantastic finished basement.  My question: was that ok per real estate ethics rules for it to be listed as a finished basement, with all the touting of those rooms in the listing and promotional material, when there&#8217;s no heat? We are only beginning attorney review, so I&#8217;m free to get out of the deal if I&#8217;m not happy with this discovery, but if I do go forward with the deal, I don&#8217;t know if it would be unreasonable or not to make an issue of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you say &quot;Smoot-Hawley&quot; in Chinese?

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/buy-china-policy-will-raise.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you say &#8220;Smoot-Hawley&#8221; in Chinese?</p>
<p><a href="http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/buy-china-policy-will-raise.html" rel="nofollow">http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/buy-china-policy-will-raise.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gator (233)-

Better hope he doesn&#039;t come home with this:

http://www.tvacres.com/dogs_greyhounds_santa.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gator (233)-</p>
<p>Better hope he doesn&#8217;t come home with this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tvacres.com/dogs_greyhounds_santa.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvacres.com/dogs_greyhounds_santa.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: NJGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kettle - 229 Stu is finishing his father&#039;s day celebration at the track.  He will respond tomorrow.  I am a good wife :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kettle &#8211; 229 Stu is finishing his father&#8217;s day celebration at the track.  He will respond tomorrow.  I am a good wife :)</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monetary policy of most populous nation on Earth:

Let&#039;s peg our currency to certain doom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monetary policy of most populous nation on Earth:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s peg our currency to certain doom.</p>
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		<title>By: Clotpoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clotpoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China = co-dependent</description>
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