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	<title>Comments on: Did Serge&#8217;s underwater house play a role?</title>
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		<title>By: ddgrant</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-312531</link>
		<dc:creator>ddgrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like there&#039;s another contender for Sergey&#039;s Home:

http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-dealzone/2009/07/13/all-quiet-at-the-aleynikov-mcmansion/comment-page-0/#comment-344015

Facebook: Sergey Aleynikov Fan Club : http://flq.us/wg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like there&#8217;s another contender for Sergey&#8217;s Home:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-dealzone/2009/07/13/all-quiet-at-the-aleynikov-mcmansion/comment-page-0/#comment-344015" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-dealzone/2009/07/13/all-quiet-at-the-aleynikov-mcmansion/comment-page-0/#comment-344015</a></p>
<p>Facebook: Sergey Aleynikov Fan Club : <a href="http://flq.us/wg" rel="nofollow">http://flq.us/wg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike R.</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-310743</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fbe2f774-6af1-11de-861d-00144feabdc0.html

Financial Times, wow.</description>
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<p>Financial Times, wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-310477</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For any who might be interested:

a website called ZeroHedge has been tracking GS&#039;s program trading at the NYSE for several months. They have noted several very strange patterns involving GS&#039;s trading. From the work done there, the SEC has begun preliminary investigations into GS&#039;s trading influencing the movement of the NYSE. Trading on the market has been down since last October. GS&#039;s portion of Program Trading has been increasing since December to where (until last week when NYSE change reporting rules) GS accounted for over 60% of all the Program Trading done at the NYSE. The closest competitor is Merril Lynch at 1/3 of GS.....The extent of Serge&#039;s involvement is unknown. It is worthy to note that as soon as he left, GS went to the FBI to say that code had been taken and this code can be (not COULD BE, but CAN BE) used to manipulate the market.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any who might be interested:</p>
<p>a website called ZeroHedge has been tracking GS&#8217;s program trading at the NYSE for several months. They have noted several very strange patterns involving GS&#8217;s trading. From the work done there, the SEC has begun preliminary investigations into GS&#8217;s trading influencing the movement of the NYSE. Trading on the market has been down since last October. GS&#8217;s portion of Program Trading has been increasing since December to where (until last week when NYSE change reporting rules) GS accounted for over 60% of all the Program Trading done at the NYSE. The closest competitor is Merril Lynch at 1/3 of GS&#8230;..The extent of Serge&#8217;s involvement is unknown. It is worthy to note that as soon as he left, GS went to the FBI to say that code had been taken and this code can be (not COULD BE, but CAN BE) used to manipulate the market&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Firestormik</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-310475</link>
		<dc:creator>Firestormik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu,
As I said before, you would have been in the first line protesting the vaccination had your kid have the problem.
Nobody knows why, but NJ is the champion in terms of kids with problems. Vaccinations? I don&#039;t advocate it, but why not? Everything is mercury based :(
Stu says: 
July 6, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Keep on delaying those vaccinations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu,<br />
As I said before, you would have been in the first line protesting the vaccination had your kid have the problem.<br />
Nobody knows why, but NJ is the champion in terms of kids with problems. Vaccinations? I don&#8217;t advocate it, but why not? Everything is mercury based :(<br />
Stu says:<br />
July 6, 2009 at 9:38 pm<br />
Keep on delaying those vaccinations</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-310474</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the propeller heads if you want to know more about program trading look up Model Trade Execution (MTRX).

If you want to know how fast trading is these days it about 5 milliseconds, and check out the Direct Market Access(DMA)platforms.

And for the tinfoil hat wearing crowd, just because some trading programs are faster than you does not mean the banks are front running anybody. Technology provides equal opportunity to anyone even in some cases the common retail investor, it is not like the days of old when the Big Board $2 brokers would manipulate the paper system. There are literally thousands of algorithms at thousands of firms competing against each other on both the buy and sell side.

Also most of the Big banks themselves are now giant hedge funds. It wasn&#039;t always that way. The program trading does push the markets around no question about it.

If you want to learn more start here.

http://www.automatedtrader.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the propeller heads if you want to know more about program trading look up Model Trade Execution (MTRX).</p>
<p>If you want to know how fast trading is these days it about 5 milliseconds, and check out the Direct Market Access(DMA)platforms.</p>
<p>And for the tinfoil hat wearing crowd, just because some trading programs are faster than you does not mean the banks are front running anybody. Technology provides equal opportunity to anyone even in some cases the common retail investor, it is not like the days of old when the Big Board $2 brokers would manipulate the paper system. There are literally thousands of algorithms at thousands of firms competing against each other on both the buy and sell side.</p>
<p>Also most of the Big banks themselves are now giant hedge funds. It wasn&#8217;t always that way. The program trading does push the markets around no question about it.</p>
<p>If you want to learn more start here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.automatedtrader.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.automatedtrader.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got word that there are plans for a nationwide taxpayer protest in DC on 9/12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got word that there are plans for a nationwide taxpayer protest in DC on 9/12.</p>
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		<title>By: PGC</title>
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		<dc:creator>PGC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need to get the Office Space &quot;Jump to conclusions&quot; mat out to put this program trading into perspective.

There are a few things to take into consideration here. The first is the overall trading volume on the exchanges is down. The level of automated trading will show show up as a big number because program trading by its nature will throw up a lot of trades.  All those S&amp;P500 funds will be trading almost every stock stock under it. So instead of generating one trade, you are generating 500 trades.   Now multiply that across the banks client base. All those pension funds and university endowments, chasing yield and growth. 

To give a real world example, we have BASF. They announce  layoffs and the price drops. While the bank will moving its position in its german subsidiary, it will be booking  some client trades through ADR&#039;s and the bigger clients will have to book trades against the american book to meet 15a6 reporting requirements.  In reality, the bank has to make one trade,  to cover the position, but on the back end it will generate several thousand trades, to balance the books.   

As for the banks putting routers in exchanges, there are a few bucks to be made off arbitrage moves in the market, but banks are looking more for instant execution. They don&#039;t want a price to move as the order is executed. 

At the end of the day, the only real story here is the trade secrets case.  IF GS has been using Linux and Open Source Linux and associated products then this guy has a defense. This could be the IB version of Metallica vs Napster, except this time Naptster wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to get the Office Space &#8220;Jump to conclusions&#8221; mat out to put this program trading into perspective.</p>
<p>There are a few things to take into consideration here. The first is the overall trading volume on the exchanges is down. The level of automated trading will show show up as a big number because program trading by its nature will throw up a lot of trades.  All those S&amp;P500 funds will be trading almost every stock stock under it. So instead of generating one trade, you are generating 500 trades.   Now multiply that across the banks client base. All those pension funds and university endowments, chasing yield and growth. </p>
<p>To give a real world example, we have BASF. They announce  layoffs and the price drops. While the bank will moving its position in its german subsidiary, it will be booking  some client trades through ADR&#8217;s and the bigger clients will have to book trades against the american book to meet 15a6 reporting requirements.  In reality, the bank has to make one trade,  to cover the position, but on the back end it will generate several thousand trades, to balance the books.   </p>
<p>As for the banks putting routers in exchanges, there are a few bucks to be made off arbitrage moves in the market, but banks are looking more for instant execution. They don&#8217;t want a price to move as the order is executed. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, the only real story here is the trade secrets case.  IF GS has been using Linux and Open Source Linux and associated products then this guy has a defense. This could be the IB version of Metallica vs Napster, except this time Naptster wins.</p>
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		<title>By: sas</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-310470</link>
		<dc:creator>sas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I need some warm cognac and hemp milk&quot;

ya gotta wait till the fall.

:)
SAS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I need some warm cognac and hemp milk&#8221;</p>
<p>ya gotta wait till the fall.</p>
<p>:)<br />
SAS</p>
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		<title>By: Firestormik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firestormik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chifi:
You&#039;ve got an email</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chifi:<br />
You&#8217;ve got an email</p>
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		<title>By: chicagofinance</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-310468</link>
		<dc:creator>chicagofinance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAS....I need some warm cognac and hemp milk.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAS&#8230;.I need some warm cognac and hemp milk&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: chicagofinance</title>
		<link>http://njrereport.com/index.php/2009/07/06/did-serges-underwater-house-play-a-role/#comment-310467</link>
		<dc:creator>chicagofinance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>42.Ben says: 
July 6, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Clot, I doubt it. These guys specialize in white collar crime, but in reality, probably don’t even think they are doing anything wrong. That’s probably why they do it out in the open.

ben: I&#039;ve said it more than once....the Russian business guys a the biggest bastards of all time.  Moral compass?  The scumbags make investment bankers look like Peace Corp volunteers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>42.Ben says:<br />
July 6, 2009 at 10:23 pm<br />
Clot, I doubt it. These guys specialize in white collar crime, but in reality, probably don’t even think they are doing anything wrong. That’s probably why they do it out in the open.</p>
<p>ben: I&#8217;ve said it more than once&#8230;.the Russian business guys a the biggest bastards of all time.  Moral compass?  The scumbags make investment bankers look like Peace Corp volunteers.</p>
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		<title>By: chicagofinance</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicagofinance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the end is nigh...

mug shot for the ages!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_joyce_dewitt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the end is nigh&#8230;</p>
<p>mug shot for the ages!<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_joyce_dewitt" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_joyce_dewitt</a></p>
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		<title>By: sas</title>
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		<dc:creator>sas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in any case, back to RE.

I saw a house I like in Bergen. I&#039;m thinking about maken a move to buy for a relative of Juanita.

Its brick &amp; frame. what you all think of brick &amp; frame?

SAS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in any case, back to RE.</p>
<p>I saw a house I like in Bergen. I&#8217;m thinking about maken a move to buy for a relative of Juanita.</p>
<p>Its brick &amp; frame. what you all think of brick &amp; frame?</p>
<p>SAS</p>
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		<title>By: still_looking</title>
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		<dc:creator>still_looking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAS

Ya gotta show up to have us buy you one...:)

sl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAS</p>
<p>Ya gotta show up to have us buy you one&#8230;:)</p>
<p>sl</p>
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		<title>By: sas</title>
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		<dc:creator>sas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw- you know how many REAL nuggets I&#039;ve given you blokes over the years, to follow up on.

someone should be buying me the first round by now.

SAS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw- you know how many REAL nuggets I&#8217;ve given you blokes over the years, to follow up on.</p>
<p>someone should be buying me the first round by now.</p>
<p>SAS</p>
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