Few think it’s a good time to sell a house

From the WSJ:

Fannie Mae: Consumer Confidence in Housing Slackens a Bit

Consumer confidence in the housing recovery has leveled off, likely connected to concerns that the Federal Reserve will cut back on asset purchases, according to new data from mortgage-finance company Fannie Mae (FNMA).

Americans, already pessimistic regarding their personal finances and the economy, demonstrated declining optimism in August across key housing-market measures. Those saying it would be a good time to sell a house declined four percentage points to 36% from July, and those saying it’s a good time to buy a house decreased three percentage points to 71%.

According to the survey, the share of consumers who believe home prices will go up in the next year rose two percentage points to 55%.

“The spike in mortgage rates associated with the possibility that the Fed will begin to wind down its asset purchase program later this month has dampened the improving trend in consumer sentiment regarding housing witnessed in our survey since the start of this year,” said Doug Duncan, senior vice president and chief economist at Fannie Mae.

The average 12-month home price change expectation decreased slightly to 3.5%, Fannie Mae said. The percentage of respondents who think mortgage rates will go up decreased two percentage points to 60% from last month’s survey high.

The average 12-month rental price expectation fell slightly to 4.1%.

The share of respondents who said they would buy if they were going to move increased slightly to 65%, while the share who said the economy is on the right track fell three percentage points from July to 37%.

The percentage of respondents who expect their personal financial situation to get better over the next year edged up one percentage point to 44%. The number of respondents who said their household income is significantly higher than it was a year ago fell three percentage points to 23%.

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103 Responses to Few think it’s a good time to sell a house

  1. freedy says:

    S&P Trading volume at 15 year low . Oh, well . Keep printing

  2. grim says:

    From the WSJ:

    Mortgage Lenders, Home Buyers Feel Rate Squeeze

    A rise in interest rates is slamming homeowners’ demand for mortgages, prompting large and midsize banks to cut jobs and warn investors of declining profitability in the home-loan business.

    Wells Fargo & Co., the nation’s largest mortgage company by loan value, on Monday told investors at a conference that it expects mortgage originations to drop nearly 30% in the third quarter to roughly $80 billion, down from $112 billion in the second quarter.

    J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., the largest U.S. bank as measured by assets, said during the conference sponsored by Barclays PLC that it expects to lose money on its mortgage-origination business in the second half of the year. On Aug. 29, Bank of America Corp., notified about 2,100 employees that they were being let go largely due to a decline in refinancing activity, said a bank spokesman.

    Mortgage originations include loans for home purchases and refinancings.

    The warnings come even though the U.S. housing market is posting its strongest year-over-year gains since the tail end of the real-estate boom in 2006. Many lenders had ramped up their mortgage businesses in the past two years to take advantage of a surge in refinancing activity that was spurred by historically low rates.

    Ultimately, big banks should benefit as they will be able to raise interest rates on new loans. That will widen the gap between their cost of borrowing and the income they earn from lending. But that won’t happen for several months, as banks work through pending applications and loans.

    San Francisco-based Wells Fargo, which financed nearly one in four U.S. mortgages in the second quarter, has already cut 3,000 jobs in the mortgage business since July. The reductions represent roughly 1% of the bank’s total workforce.

    The slowdown is perplexing to industry veterans like Gerald Lipkin, who has been chief executive of New Jersey lender Valley National Bancorp since 1989.

    Mortgage volumes are “way down” at the bank even though Valley already has switched its focus away from refinancing deals to new home loans, he said. Mortgages represent roughly 20% of Valley’s loan portfolio.

    Mr. Lipkin said rates are still at historically low levels despite the recent increase.

    “I remember when mortgage rates were 14% and if you got a loan at 12%, everyone thought it was terrific,” he said.

  3. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    http://observer.com/2013/09/polly-go-lightly-buying-a-new-york-city-apartment-at-the-tender-age-of-22/

    After calculating my purchase price based on a monthly payment of $2,000, I realized a small purchase was feasible and a sound investment. With some $50,000 in the bank—a nest egg from my family augmented by savings that I’d stashed away by working in retail since the age of 14—I settled on a budget of approximately $250,000 and began searching listings and seeking real estate agencies and brokers.

  4. grim says:

    From CNBC:

    Yep, it’s another housing bubble

    Four months ago something troubling happened in the housing market. The home price affordability index tracked by the National Association of Realtors slipped below it’s long-term trend line, marking a possible beginning of a housing bubble.

    On Monday, we got the fourth month of home affordability data coming in below trend, which is a strong confirmation that the housing market is once again in a bubble.

    The index has been dropping rapidly since peaking in January at 210.7. We’re now down to 157.8, according to the preliminary numbers released for July on Monday. Home prices have been rising and interest rates climbing, while wages haven’t kept up. That’s how we got to the lowest level of affordability seen since July of 2009.

    According to the NAR, this shouldn’t be dire news. A score of 157.8 officially indicates that a household earning the median income has 57.8 percent more income than needed to get a mortgage on a median priced home.

    Unfortunately, it’s not clear that the index is very useful on its face. The index has never, in fact, dipped below 100 since the late 1990s. Even during the height of the last housing bubble, the indexes lowest score was 101—the affordability nadir hit in July 2006. This is what has led folks like Barry Ritholtz to declare the index “useless.”

  5. anon (the good one) says:

    NOTE: hereby officially endorse Bill de Blasio to be the next major of New York City.

    “Primary Day forecasts called for sunny skies and temperatures in the mid-80s, clearing away any weather-related obstacles to voting. But election observers expected fewer than 800,000 of the city’s 3.4 million registered Democrats and Republicans to cast ballots. The low turnout expectation put a premium on get-out-the-vote efforts, which were much in evidence on Monday, as union leaders, local elected officials and others with a stake in the outcome helped mobilize residents to make the trip to the polls on Tuesday.

    The candidates made their final appeals in radio interviews, subway station appearances and strolls through commercial districts around the five boroughs.”

  6. grim says:

    From CNBC:

    About 2.5 million homes no longer underwater

    As home prices rose in the second quarter, millions of borrowers regained equity, according to data released Tuesday.

    About 2.5 million homes swung to positive equity in the second quarter, meaning that their owners no longer owed more on a mortgage than the home was worth, according to a report from CoreLogic, an Irvine, Calif.-based analysis firm.

    Meanwhile, the likelihood that a home was “underwater” dropped. At the end of the second quarter, 14.5% of all mortgaged residential properties had negative equity, compared with 19.7% at the end of the first quarter.

    But the news wasn’t all good. There are still millions of underwater homes — about 7.1 million at the end of the second quarter. And more than 10 million other homes that have slim equity levels, meaning that it would be difficult for borrowers to qualify to refinance and make their homes more affordable.

    Overall, the report paints a picture of a national housing market that is seeing a lopsided recovery. For one, higher valued homes are more likely to have equity.

    Also, certain areas continue to be much worse off than others. Just five states — Nevada, Florida, Arizona, Michigan and Georgia — accounted for 35% of all U.S. negative equity in the second quarter. Among those five states, Nevada is having the toughest time: 36% of all mortgaged homes there had negative equity.

  7. grim says:

    Cue accusations of manipulation –

    According to the Q2 Core Logic Negative Equity Report:

    91.5% of homeowners in the NY metro are in positive equity (NY-Wayne-White Plains)
    85% of NJ homeowners are in now in positive equity
    Edison-New Burnswick Metro Area – 87% in positive equity
    Nassau-Suffolk an amazing 92.3%
    Philly Metro a stratospheric 93.4%

  8. Comrade Nom Deplume, Bostonian says:

    [6] anon,

    For once I agree with you. I love the idea of NYC being led by an unabashed Red Sox fan.

    Part of our conspiracy to kill off NYCs economy and bring the city to its knees. BWAHAHAHAHA

  9. JJ says:

    I would like to see percentage of homeowners irregardless of a mortgage who are in positive equity.

    My neighbor down the block bought their house at the peak for 550K, cash. It is worth now 450K according to NAR they are in positive equity.

    Nassau county places like Long Beach, East Rockaway, Atlantic Beach, Lido Beach, Point Lookout and Island Park that got totally devastated by Sandy and many houses lacked flood insurance. There were tons of older folk with no mortgage who bought those homes for between 13k and 100k. I drive by ten abandoned homes every morning on way to train. According to Realtors these Folks all have positive equity!!!!!!! Your home that was worth 540K in 2007 that a orthodox jew is waiving a check for 140k for you house so he can demo it the NAR would say you have 140K equity!!!!!! Yea old lady dance.
    91.5% of homeowners in the NY metro are in positive equity (NY-Wayne-White Plains)
    85% of NJ homeowners are in now in positive equity
    Edison-New Burnswick Metro Area – 87% in positive equity
    Nassau-Suffolk an amazing 92.3%
    Philly Metro a stratospheric 93.4%

  10. Fast Eddie says:

    91.5% of homeowners in the NY metro are in positive equity.

    Great! Everyone is fat and solvent! Where’s the inventory?

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    I wouldn’t even call what Putin did to Oblama a b1tch slap. It’s two levels beyond.

  12. grim says:

    Great! Everyone is fat and solvent! Where’s the inventory?

    Those saying it would be a good time to sell a house declined four percentage points to 36% from July

  13. Fast Eddie says:

    grim [13],

    Why? I keep hearing how prices are going up and multiple offers are back in vogue!

  14. Painhrtz - Disobey! says:

    Fast Eddie I never thought I would see someone more incompetent than Jimmy Carter on foreign policy in my lifetime, but that that mark has been exceeded by world record incompetence. To the point that I’m sure some third world tin pot dictator could shoulder feint Chairman O and he would run cowering into the corner. Kudos to congress for finally growing a pair and saying hey wait a minute isn’t our job to vote on bombing people.

    On topic our house assessed for less than we paid but that was only by 20K. did not care one way or the other.

  15. Fast Eddie says:

    Painhrtz,

    I guess that red line faded to pink very quickly! LOL!

  16. grim says:

    14 – Yep – And it’s crazy. Local closings above asking in just the last two weeks (Essex, Morris, Passaic, Somerset, Sussex, Union)… Sorry for the dump (this isn’t all north jersey counties, doesn’t include bergen either).

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  17. anon (the good one) says:

    Yes, of course, putting aside the hundreds of thousands of lives lost and thrillions of USD spent by W in support of corporate interests in Iraq/Afghanistan

    “I never thought I would see someone more incompetent than Jimmy Carter on foreign policy in my lifetime,”

  18. Brian says:

    Where did you read that?

    1.freedy says:
    September 10, 2013 at 7:11 am
    S&P Trading volume at 15 year low . Oh, well . Keep printing

  19. Painhrtz - Disobey! says:

    Anon, I’ll take your bait cause I have no love for W.

    Afghanistan – eliminated insufferable regime and severley weakend base of operations for Al queda as well as command and control structure following attacks on 9/11. Bad should have recognized tribal structure and pulled out after year 2.
    By the way how is that withdrawal working out for Obama.

    iraq stupid decisions based on even worse intelligence. One bonus kurdish north region semi autonomous no longer being persecuted. Bad shiites and sunnis still killing each other in the rest of the country.

    Africa negotiated good Ol Colonel Qadaffi to drop chemical and nuclear ambitions. Essentially defanging him after he saw what happened to Saddam. Although two bit dictator fights islamic and Al Queada elements in his country to stalemate. Obama supports the wrong side in that stalemate allowing control to be overrun by elements of islamic fundamentalists.

    Africa lead the charge in combating epidemic AIDS infections through diplomacy, funding, and personnel.

    Say what you want about W stupid, indifferent or otherwise he made decisions whether they were unpopular or not. Did not hold a finger into the wind and base foreign policy on his likability index. He also had the respect of leaders around the world, something chairman O does not have. If it wasn’t for the stupid neocon Iraq war Bush would probably get a passing grade, but he is not the utter failure Barrack Obama is.

  20. Anthony's Weiner says:

    18. Really! W poisoned the well for any actions going forward. Some people have selective memories.

  21. Anthony's Weiner says:

    20. Are you functionally retarded?

  22. Anthony's Weiner says:

    20. You were lied to aka “faulty intelligence”.

  23. Ragnar says:

    Fast Eddie,
    The inventory is out West, beyond an easy commute to NYC.
    I see a lot of for sale signs in Bridgewater and Warren. As many now as this spring.

  24. Painhrtz - Disobey! says:

    How could I be lied to if I didn’t support the war in Iraq nor did I provide a justification for it? Sad as it may seem Bush was actually some what passable on foreign policy sans Iraq war, believe me it surprises me as well. History is going to far kinder to him than Obama whose epitaph is going to solely consist of first black president. He makes Ford and Clinton look like foreign policy savants.

  25. grim says:

    Look no further than Afghanistan’s annual heroin exports to the United States as an indication of failure. Afghan opium production as measured by acres cultivated is now near the highest levels ever recorded.

  26. Brian says:

    General Georges Sada reports that he has seen Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and they were transported to Syria.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-march-21-2006/general-georges-sada

    http://www.msunderestimated.com/SaddamsWMDs.wmv

    23.Anthony’s Weiner says:
    September 10, 2013 at 10:05 am
    20. You were lied to aka “faulty intelligence”.

  27. xmonger says:

    #6 Deblasio is a horrible pick for NYC mayor, but the same is true for all the lib candidates. However, I must say the Afro on half black kid commercial was brilliant.

  28. Painhrtz - Disobey! says:

    I rote this long winded response and deleted it by accident. So here is the short version was bush good no, but in comparison to the this administration yes. no something I would think was even remotely possible.

    honestly even the libs are coming around

    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-07-26/opinions/35487798_1_african-countries-pepfar-antiretroviral-treatment

    must be upside down day I’m defending Bush.

  29. Pete says:

    Obama Derangement Syndrome?

  30. Statler Waldorf says:

    Not even Obama thinks the US should not have attacked Afghanistan, so that’s a silly “point” to make.

    On Iraq, the war was overwhelmingly supported by the public, the Senate, and the House, including “yes” votes from Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Harry Reid.

    Senator Harry Reid also stated at the time:

    “We stopped the fighting [in 1991] based on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the Armistice, which renders it void, and justifies resumption of the armed conflict.”

    – Senator Harry Reid, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, p. S10145

  31. joyce says:

    Maybe we could advance the debate if people stop comparing bad to bad. One being slightly worse than another in one respect, and vice versa on another… who cares?

    judge them on their own merits, which of course they have none.

    baa

  32. JJ says:

    A slowly rising stock market leads to low volume, option trades make less sense and folks have less reason to buy and sell and churn away,

    Fall 2008 and Spring 2009 we had some great volume, but that alone does not make a health market.

    The 1970s for instance folks bought and hold whole decade. Dad bought 10K mutual fund whole decade gave him little reason to buy more or sell.

    The 80s and 90s were different stories. Decades with huge run ups and huge crashes mixed in. Folks cashing out at peak, folks panicking and selling at the bottom and tons of buying and selling opportunities mixed in.

    We need actionable events to bring back vol, for example a war with Syria would have been good for volume but not good for much else .
    Brian says:
    September 10, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Where did you read that?

    1.freedy says:
    September 10, 2013 at 7:11 am
    S&P Trading volume at 15 year low . Oh, well . Keep printing

  33. Anon E. Moose says:

    anon [6];

    hereby officially endorse Bill de Blasio to be the next major of New York City.

    Another woman-hating, homophobic bigot* self-identifies. Simply can’t handle the thought of calling a lesbian “Madame Mayor”.

    From my POV, any of the likely candidates is only going to shepherd the further decline.

    *TIC

  34. Anon E. Moose says:

    anon [6];

    hereby officially endorse Bill de Blasio to be the next major of New York City.

    Another woman-hating, h°m0phobic bigot* self-identifies. Simply can’t handle the thought of calling a lesbian “Madame Mayor”.

    From my POV, any of the likely candidates is only going to shepherd the further decline.

    *TIC

  35. Anon E. Moose says:

    anon [6];

    hereby officially endorse Bill de Blasio to be the next major of New York City.

    Another woman-hating, h°m0phobic bigot* self-identifies. Simply can’t handle the thought of calling a lesbi@n “Madame Mayor”.

    From my POV, any of the likely candidates is only going to shepherd the further decline.

    *TIC

  36. ccb223 says:

    The NYC mayoral candidate pool is atrocious. All a bunch of clowns.

    Wish Bloomberg would stick around.

  37. Anon E. Moose says:

    Pain [20];

    You’re right to look to Libya and Kaddaffi as the prime examples to Muslim leaders in their dealings with the US. Kaddaffi came in out of the cold, paid reparations for Lockerbie, made nice to the Americans — he got Louima’d with a bayonet for his trouble.

    That’s the example Assad is looking at.

  38. Anon E. Moose says:

    ccb223 [35];

    Why not? He already extended the term limits once. If the Federal Gov. runs like a Banana Republic, why shouldn’t the City?

  39. cobbler somewhere in Jiangsu Province says:

    Purely based on NJ RE valuation, De Blasio as NYC mayor is probably good as he’ll make young professional families less likely to stay in the city – but bad since the number of well- paying jobs in the city is likely to drop (more than otherwise). How does it sound for yin-yan?

  40. chicagofinance says:

    I think my car is going to be totaled…..stupid little cig-smoking 19 yo fcuker!

    chicagofinance says:
    September 9, 2013 at 10:46 pm
    Ragnar: I was in a minor car accident on the way home from work. I am calling your place tomorrow to cancel out….sorry…..I’m fine….some kid blew a stop sign bolting from class…..cops were nice guys….Middletown cop and two Brookdale cops….

  41. NJGator says:

    Grim – do you happen to have a closing price for 11 Nymph in West Orange? Friend was looking at it…seemed to sell pretty fast.

  42. chicagofinance says:

    It looks like a cake walk for Deblasio, but it won’t be apparent for about 2-3 years that NYC will become less livable for families……only then do people realize the ramifications of their choices……

    I hate to sound like a curmudgeon but here it goes….
    “A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.”

    xmonger says:
    September 10, 2013 at 10:35 am
    #6 Deblasio is a horrible pick for NYC mayor, but the same is true for all the lib candidates. However, I must say the Afro on half black kid commercial was brilliant.

  43. grim says:

    40 – Came on the market at $629k on 4/9 – reduced to $599k on 4/16 – went ARIP on 4/19 – closed on 6/19 for $620k.

  44. NJGator says:

    Thanks!

  45. cobbler somewhere in Jiangsu Province says:

    chi[41]
    This is the simplest way to make the city more affordable for those that stay… the easiest way to keep his promises.

  46. Ragnar says:

    Does a less livable NYC equal higher demand for NJ homes?
    If they tighten up rent controls and make it harder to develop residential property, people who earn a living there may have to live somewhere else.

    Paying attention to the NYC mayoral race is more than I can stomach. Whomever they are trying to connect with, it surely is not me. Not that I could vote for them anyway.

  47. Ragnar says:

    cobbler checking out your sweatshops in Jiangsu province? Are export volumes rising?
    I think hairy crabs are coming in season now there – eat up! Not to be confused with getting crabs in your hair.

  48. Richard says:

    #17 grim that’s quite a list, how many properties went the same price or below asking?

  49. JJ says:

    Damm your 1986 Camaro IROC with t-roofs and a whale tale is going to be tough to replace

    chicagofinance says:
    September 10, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    I think my car is going to be totaled…..stupid little cig-smoking 19 yo fcuker!

    chicagofinance says:
    September 9, 2013 at 10:46 pm
    Ragnar: I was in a minor car accident on the way home from work. I am calling your place tomorrow to cancel out….sorry…..I’m fine….some kid blew a stop sign bolting from class…..cops were nice guys….Middletown cop and two Brookdale cops….

  50. grim says:

    47 – Roughly 20-25% above ask, 75-80% at or below.

  51. JJ says:

    Rising rates reflect both stronger global economic growth and shifting expectations for both tapering and the next Fed chairman. Significant risks remain and 10-year rates approaching 3% begin to look attractive. The potential to overshoot remains so we’ll continue to underweight rate-sensitive segments of fixed income (Treasuries, mortgages and TIPS). Rising rates in August led to underperformance of high yield bonds vs. bank loans. The potential for this to continue in the short run leads us to putting high yield at “neutral” and bank loans to “overweight.” Emerging markets continue to be under stress with currency uncertainty in India and Indonesia alongside fears of further global outflows attendant with Fed tapering; we remain neutral regarding an outright recommendation in EM debt. In municipals, higher rates and a steeper curve has restored some value to the broader municipal market with yields their highest since early 2011. However, Puerto Rico bonds finally began to reflect the long deterioration in fundamentals and our longstanding concerns.

  52. dan in debt says:

    266 Clarken Dr West Orange Twp. LP: 350000 SP: 401000

    I looked in this developement two plus years ago. I liked them but why pay that amount for a townhouse for that school system and the likely $12k-$13k property taxes for either a 2 or 3BR?

  53. dan in debt says:

    22A LAKESIDE DR Millburn Twp. LP: 275000 SP: 275555

    Tiny apartments probably no garage. I’ve been in these too. Way way way too small to enjoy. What’s the selling point, near A&P? Still almost fifteen minute walk to train station

  54. dan in debt says:

    46 Spenser Dr Millburn Twp. LP: 1300000 SP: 1360000

    I had a friend live either next door or two houses away. Nice houses nice yards but these are 2007 prices. These are nice 4 or 5 bedrooms but $400k overpriced IMO.

  55. Comrade Nom Deplume, unpacking boxes for the foreseeable future says:

    [38] cobbler

    Doubt you will see much movement there. The Manhattan to Midtown Direct pipeline is driven more by school age children than anything else. It isn’t taxes as that is a neutral (unless di Blasio chases jobs out of the city) and if the cost of housing declines, those YUPPIES are likely to stick around.

    Only thing that drives them out is crime, taxes, and lack of jobs. So far, that isn’t threatened much.

  56. Fast Eddie says:

    …why pay that amount for a townhouse for that school system and the likely $12k-$13k property taxes for either a 2 or 3BR?

    Dan, don’t forget to add the maintenance fees on the townhouse. It’s the same reason why the fortunes of the railroad tycoons were p1ssed away in one successvice generation. Most people are clueless when it comes to money management. If you leave a 4 year old unsupervised with a gallon of ice cream, they will eat themself to death.

  57. Brian says:

    Sounds like Deblasio is good for NJ Real Estate.

  58. grim says:

    Apple up’ed the bar big time.

  59. Brian says:

    Yeah it’s amazing. I hear the iPhone now comes in gold.

    Whop dee doo

    grim says:
    September 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm
    Apple up’ed the bar big time.

  60. NYC descends another level into Third World muck.

  61. grim says:

    59

    First ever 64 bit phone with 64 bit OS. Some pretty substantial performance improvements.

    What appears to be the best-ever in-phone camera – larger sensor – multi-temperature flash, 120fps slow mo, 15 zone auto-focus, larger lens f2.2

    First ever on-phone fingerprint sensor

    New motion processor co-developed with Nike (for fitness/exercise apps)

    Starting at $199 for the top phone, $99 for the new colored 5’s, and a free iPhone 4s if you want to go that route.

  62. Brian says:

    Can’t wait to give my fingerprints to the NSA through my new iPhone.

  63. grim says:

    62 – What, you don’t honestly think they don’t have them already? I’m sure they have mine..

    Own a handgun – Was fingerprinted (all fingers)

    NJ real estate license – Was fingerprinted (all fingers)

    I distinctly remember being fingerprinted in grammar school too.

  64. joyce says:

    62-63

    What a bunch of conspiracy nuts

  65. JJ says:

    I hate the maint fees in a condo/coop and fact it depreciates less and you are restricted to the studs in and neighbors are on top of you.

    that said when I was young and single I loved my coop. nothing better than sleeping in on a snowy day while someone else shoveled snow and never getting a heating bill, water bill, gas bill or property tax bill.

    My wife also loves the condo we bought for sheer fact even though maint is way too high she does not have to worry is tenant shoveling walkway, is tenant mowing the lawn, does gutters need cleaning, is roof leaking. etc. Granted I way way over pay as the place is badly run. But as a landlord it is good. Lots of old folks live there too. A few younger folks bought there are peak of 2003-2008 and hate it as they are trapped as they overpaid and condos have less appreciation than a house but otherwise whatever. Also plus when doing taxes as maint is tax deductable and I have a lot less receipts to track.

    My winter tenant chose my condo over a larger house that was a little less per month. He wants to enjoy the beach and stuff in Sept through November and April though May and was turned off with shoveling someone else’s sidewalk, mowing someone else’s lawn and fact he had to chase down homeowners for repairs. He also liked no hauling garbage cans to curb.

    A big house is great in the summer. Great backyard, laying in sun. Parties. But a winter rental by the beach, a nice deck with a bbq and access to a place to sit outside your door is all you need. Also less space less heat used and attached brick style town homes use a heck of a lot less heat and electric than a big house in January.

    Condos serve the purpose for young folks, widows, absentee landlords, snowbirds and even certain ethnic groups like Indians who dont like doing physical work around the house as much and dont mind being close together. Not all, but a lot of asians, indians and even jewish people like condos and coops. Divorced people too. My one bedroom right by train and bars with short commute to city I sold to a 33 year old guy who just got divorced and had a big house on the water. Told me he got 200K in split, paid 86K in cash for my place and was looking forward to one single bill, maint each month and no work at all around the house. My place was freshly painted and cleaned. He moved out 4 years later and touched not a single thing. Sometimes you just have to be in the mood to deal with a house. Most divorced folks are not. Most have cash. Most like owning. Also folks feel safer owning.

    My kids have only been to my condo a few times and all said they like the fact even though you dont have a private yard the complex is private property, most neighbors are older, quiet, say hello and goodby and the complex is kept neat. One said she would be my winter tenant first year out of college!!! But they are not money makers.

    I should have bought a small damaged sandy house on a good plot, fixed it up for a rental cheap, then down the road knocked it down or blown it out when real estate is better. I cant do it with a condo. Plus I am tied to idiotic board and neighbors comps. If one neighbor or two sell identical units cheap or board screws up insurance and a flood or something happens we are all screwed. Dont like fact I am tied to a group of strangers

  66. Richard says:

    I would say for apartments buy a REIT and get over it. But when EQR is selling at 2.4 P/B I wouldn’t buy them either.

    Perhaps you should start a reit.

  67. Comrade Nom Deplume, unpacking boxes for the foreseeable future says:

    [63] grim,

    Everyone has mine. I’m starting a new project in Delaware soon and it had a background check requirement. And yes, they took my fingerprints. In fact, they had to delay the start because they temporarily lost them.

    Even the NJ Bar has every attorney’s fingerprints. I guess it saves the cops some time later.

  68. chicagofinance says:

    she seems to have a nice set of………fingerprints….

    xmonger says:
    September 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    #41 NYC – on the highway to hell
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RZXeQc5HU&feature=c4-overview&list=UU7gHHtlv-Oyll1jbsJh8qJA

    click now, thank me later

  69. Painhrtz - Disobey! says:

    ahh diversion, it is exactly as it lists

    http://www.cowabduction.com/

  70. Juice Box says:

    Apple Snapple. No escaping margin compression for them.

    80% of the phone market is Android.

    Only stupid beats Free!

  71. JJ says:

    Hey how much would a family of five on average give at a fancy NY/NJ Bat Miz?

    I am getting widely different estimates

  72. Juice Box says:

    Fingerprints are going the way of the typewriter. They won’t even be taken in the future. Just look at the latest process being implemented at the Airports.

    http://www.designboom.com/technology/3d-facial-recognition-airport-security-at-sochi-2014-olympics/

    Facial Recognition via wearable computers. Much more effective in detecting perps.

    Startup for Glass

    http://www.lambdal.com/

  73. Brian says:

    What’s next? rectal scanners?

    joyce says:
    September 10, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    62-63

    What a bunch of conspiracy nuts

  74. Anthony's Weiner says:

    Just got an HTC one- cool phone.

  75. Juice Box says:

    re # 75- just remember the NSA keeps a copy of your wiener pics.

  76. Anthony's Weiner says:

    76. My weiner is worldwide.

  77. Anthony's Weiner says:

    77. F-ck Putin. Freakin’ thug. Seems like he really overcompensates. The US shoyld nuke those commies into the stoneage.

  78. Juice Box says:

    Kerry got his tail handed to hin the house today.

  79. Hughesrep says:

    73

    Disney took my fingerprints last week and I didn’t even get to see Walt’s frozen head.

  80. grim says:

    Oh good lord – Stu – Did you see it yet?

    That new mismatched monstrosity at the top of Grove St in Clifton is for sale.

    Asking price – $1.35m

    Good f’ing luck unloading that shithole for that price.

  81. Ragnar says:

    Dan, (52)
    The selling point is the school system. Looks like a 5 minute walk to high school. A 15 minute walk to a train station is a positive not a negative. Leave your house at 7:15, be at Penn Station at 8:15. My guess bought by some immigrants willing to sacrifice living space while they set up their kids to go on and get a good education, score high SATs, win scholarships and good jobs.

    Might not be to everyone’s taste, but it could make strategic sense for many.

  82. Dan in debt says:

    Ragnar
    My hunch is that was a one bedroom so i don’t think the school is in play.

  83. ccb223 says:

    37 — yes, he extended term limits…and the people elected him for a 3rd time…thankfully.

    Luckily, a lot of the systems/programs Bloomberg has put in place should be self sustainable.

  84. Juice Box says:

    Solar for the house, we are getting and estimate this week? Does it increase value?

    Opinons from the skeptical welcome.

  85. chicagofinance says:

    Not how much….but rather what?

    JJ says: September 10, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Hey how much would a family of five on average give at a fancy NY/NJ Bat Miz?
    I am getting widely different estimates

    Drug dealers text customers: ‘We’re closed for Shabbat’
    By Daniel PrendergastSeptember 10, 2013 | 3:21pm
    These dealers answer to a “higher” authority.
    An observant bunch of Brooklyn drug slingers announced to their clientele through mass texts they would be working shortened hours — in honor of Shabbat, according to a criminal complaint.

    The group of five men were slapped with with a slew of drug and conspiracy charges after after investigators found that the men had been texting customers with detailed instructions about how to pick up their supplies of cocaine, heroin and oxycodone — and even warned against showing up after sundown on a Friday or before sundown on Saturday.

    Prosecutors charge that Jack Zibak, Jack Zaibak, Eduard Sorin, David Gerowitz and Philip Mandel sold the drugs from their den on Bedford Avenue in Sheepshead Bay, including more than 23,000 pills of oxycodone carrying a street value of approximately $460,000, according to the criminal complaint.

    They allegedly used a variety of methods to obtain the pills, including using stolen prescription sheets.

    The crew regularly sent out mass texts to customers indicating their their abridged hours in observance of the holy day, including one message that said their operation would be “closed for Shabbat.”

    “We are closing 7:30 on the dot and we will reopen Saturday 8:15 so if u need anything you have 45mins to get what you want,” one of the messages read.

    Cops raided their pious operation on April 20 after a six month investigation referred to as “Only After Sundown,” where police seized approximately 900 glassines of heroin, 335 oxycodone pills, a small quantity of cocaine, and additional quantities of Xanax, Suboxone and Klonopin.

    A sawed-off shotgun with ammunition was also recovered, as was a Blackberry that was used to send texts to customers, prosecutors allege.

  86. chicagofinance says:

    Not how much….but rather what?

    JJ says: September 10, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Hey how much would a family of five on average give at a fancy NY/NJ Bat Miz?
    I am getting widely different estimates

    Drug dealers text customers: ‘We’re closed for Shabbat’
    By Daniel PrendergastSeptember 10, 2013 | 3:21pm
    These dealers answer to a “higher” authority.
    An observant bunch of Brooklyn drug slingers announced to their clientele through mass texts they would be working shortened hours — in honor of Shabbat, according to a criminal complaint.

    The group of five men were slapped with with a slew of drug and conspiracy charges after after investigators found that the men had been texting customers with detailed instructions about how to pick up their supplies of cocaine, heroin and oxycodone — and even warned against showing up after sundown on a Friday or before sundown on Saturday.

    Prosecutors charge that Jack Zibak, Jack Zaibak, Eduard Sorin, David Gerowitz and Philip Mandel sold the drugs from their den on Bedford Avenue in Sheepshead Bay, including more than 23,000 pills of oxycodone carrying a street value of approximately $460,000, according to the criminal complaint.

    They allegedly used a variety of methods to obtain the pills, including using stolen prescription sheets.

    The crew regularly sent out mass texts to customers indicating their their abridged hours in observance of the holy day, including one message that said their operation would be “closed for Shabbat.”

    “We are closing 7:30 on the dot and we will reopen Saturday 8:15 so if u need anything you have 45mins to get what you want,” one of the messages read.

    Cops raided their pious operation on April 20 after a six month investigation referred to as “Only After Sundown,” where police seized approximately 900 glassines of heroin, 335 oxyc0done pills, a small quantity of cocaine, and additional quantities of XanVx, Subox0ne and Klonop!n.

    A sawed-off shotgun with ammunition was also recovered, as was a Blackberry that was used to send texts to customers, prosecutors allege.

  87. chicagofinance says:

    Not how much….but rather what?

    JJ says: September 10, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Hey how much would a family of five on average give at a fancy NY/NJ Bat Miz?
    I am getting widely different estimates

    Drug dealers text customers: ‘We’re closed for Shabbat’
    By Daniel PrendergastSeptember 10, 2013 | 3:21pm
    These dealers answer to a “higher” authority.
    An observant bunch of Brooklyn drug slingers announced to their clientele through mass texts they would be working shortened hours — in honor of Shabbat, according to a criminal complaint.

    The group of five men were slapped with with a slew of drug and conspiracy charges after after investigators found that the men had been texting customers with detailed instructions about how to pick up their supplies of cocaine, heroin and oxycod0ne — and even warned against showing up after sundown on a Friday or before sundown on Saturday.

    Prosecutors charge that Jack Zibak, Jack Zaibak, Eduard Sorin, David Gerowitz and Philip Mandel sold the drugs from their den on Bedford Avenue in Sheepshead Bay, including more than 23,000 pills of oxycod0ne carrying a street value of approximately $460,000, according to the criminal complaint.

    They allegedly used a variety of methods to obtain the pills, including using stolen prescription sheets.

    The crew regularly sent out mass texts to customers indicating their their abridged hours in observance of the holy day, including one message that said their operation would be “closed for Shabbat.”

    “We are closing 7:30 on the dot and we will reopen Saturday 8:15 so if u need anything you have 45mins to get what you want,” one of the messages read.

    Cops raided their pious operation on April 20 after a six month investigation referred to as “Only After Sundown,” where police seized approximately 900 glassines of heroin, 335 oxyc0done pills, a small quantity of cocaine, and additional quantities of XanVx, Subox0ne and Klonop!n.

    A sawed-off shotgun with ammunition was also recovered, as was a Blackberry that was used to send texts to customers, prosecutors allege.

  88. chicagofinance says:

    Not how much….but rather what?

    JJ says: September 10, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Hey how much would a family of five on average give at a fancy NY/NJ Bat Miz?
    I am getting widely different estimates

    Drug dealers text customers: ‘We’re closed for Shabbat’
    By Daniel PrendergastSeptember 10, 2013 | 3:21pm
    These dealers answer to a “higher” authority.
    An observant bunch of Brooklyn drug slingers announced to their clientele through mass texts they would be working shortened hours — in honor of Shabbat, according to a criminal complaint.

    The group of five men were slapped with with a slew of drug and conspiracy charges after after investigators found that the men had been texting customers with detailed instructions about how to pick up their supplies of c0caine, her0in and oxycod0ne — and even warned against showing up after sundown on a Friday or before sundown on Saturday.

    Prosecutors charge that Jack Zibak, Jack Zaibak, Eduard Sorin, David Gerowitz and Philip Mandel sold the drugs from their den on Bedford Avenue in Sheepshead Bay, including more than 23,000 pills of oxycod0ne carrying a street value of approximately $460,000, according to the criminal complaint.

    They allegedly used a variety of methods to obtain the pills, including using stolen prescription sheets.

    The crew regularly sent out mass texts to customers indicating their their abridged hours in observance of the holy day, including one message that said their operation would be “closed for Shabbat.”

    “We are closing 7:30 on the dot and we will reopen Saturday 8:15 so if u need anything you have 45mins to get what you want,” one of the messages read.

    Cops raided their pious operation on April 20 after a six month investigation referred to as “Only After Sundown,” where police seized approximately 900 glassines of her0in, 335 oxyc0done pills, a small quantity of c0caine, and additional quantities of XanVx, Subox0ne and Klonop!n.

    A sawed-off shotgun with ammunition was also recovered, as was a Blackberry that was used to send texts to customers, prosecutors allege.

  89. chicagofinance says:

    Not how much….but rather what?

    JJ says: September 10, 2013 at 4:22 pm
    Hey how much would a family of five on average give at a fancy NY/NJ Bat Miz?
    I am getting widely different estimates

    Drug dealers text customers: ‘We’re closed for Shabbat’
    By Daniel PrendergastSeptember 10, 2013 | 3:21pm
    These dealers answer to a “higher” authority.
    An observant bunch of Brooklyn drug slingers announced to their clientele through mass texts they would be working shortened hours — in honor of Shabbat, according to a criminal complaint.

    The group of five men were slapped with with a slew of drug and conspiracy charges after after investigators found that the men had been texting customers with detailed instructions about how to pick up their supplies of c0caine, her0in and oxycod0ne — and even warned against showing up after sundown on a Friday or before sundown on Saturday.

    Prosecutors charge that Jack Zibak, Jack Zaibak, Eduard Sorin, David Gerowitz and Philip Mandel sold the drugs from their den on Bedford Avenue in Sheepshead Bay, including more than 23,000 pills of oxycod0ne carrying a street value of approximately $460,000, according to the criminal complaint.

    They allegedly used a variety of methods to obtain the p!lls, including using stolen prescr!ption sheets.

    The crew regularly sent out mass texts to customers indicating their their abridged hours in observance of the holy day, including one message that said their operation would be “closed for Shabbat.”

    “We are closing 7:30 on the dot and we will reopen Saturday 8:15 so if u need anything you have 45mins to get what you want,” one of the messages read.

    Cops raided their pious operation on April 20 after a six month investigation referred to as “Only After Sundown,” where police seized approximately 900 glass!nes of her0in, 335 oxyc0done pills, a small quantity of c0caine, and additional quantities of XanVx, Subox0ne and Klonop!n.

    A sawed-off shotgun with ammunition was also recovered, as was a Blackberry that was used to send texts to customers, prosecutors allege.

  90. Anthony's Weiner says:

    57. Server technology in the palm of your hand. Apple likes the big bus.

  91. Grim says:

    86 – little to no resale payback

  92. Anon E. Moose says:

    ccb223 [85];

    37 — yes, he extended term limits…and the people elected him for a 3rd time…thankfully.

    Luckily, a lot of the systems/programs Bloomberg has put in place should be self sustainable.

    The city that said goodbye to Giuliani four months after 9/11/01 just couldn’t survive ’09-’13 without Nanny Bloomberg? Who else could have saved NYC from the Big Gulp?

    “Self-sustaining” is a bug, not a feature.

  93. Brian says:

    Firefighters hate it. It makes fires harder to put out and they can be electrocuted even if the grid power is turned off during a fire.

    Juice Box says:
    September 10, 2013 at 7:25 pm
    Solar for the house, we are getting and estimate this week? Does it increase value?

    Opinons from the skeptical welcome.

  94. cobbler somewhere in Jiangsu Province says:

    ragnar[47]
    Yes, the hairy crabs are here… too labor-intensive for my taste, I’d rather have crabcakes at home. As for the factory, it is as automated and modern as anywhere in the world… but when the needed capex is 20% of what it has to be stateside, and ROI the local owner expects is 7% instead of 25%+, it is hard to say no to your bosses… This is why I think going the tariff/protections route is the only way to go if we want to have more than WS, McJobs and a few tradesman in between…

  95. Libtard at home says:

    Grim: That house CAN’T go for that unless some rich Greek is in the market. So you going to the open house? You MUST take pictures and post.

    JJ: One does not gift on the fanciness of the affair unless it is completely informal. And I’ve been to a few of those crazy lavish affairs. I usually give about $50 per person invited, but to be stupidly traditional, make the final amount divisible by 18. So, $252 in this case. If it’s a business associate, give a little more.

  96. Libtard at home says:

    And let’s here it for US Soccer!!!

  97. Libtard at home says:

    hear it. Time for sleepy sleep.

  98. Comrade Nom Deplume, knee jerk savant says:

    [92] cobbler,

    I said it before, I’ll say it again, protectionism is the only way off the mat. I used to say that protectionism is the only way the left succeeds but I think now the inverse is true. The left can live a long time waging a class war as its raison d’être but the right can’t advance unless people get back to work. Downright paradoxical.

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