Casinowars

From the Star Ledger:

Business leaders pushing Meadowlands casino plans as Atlantic City casinos close

Business and community leaders huddled in the Meadowlands this morning to discuss the district’s next big bet: casinos.

With Atlantic City’s gaming industry sputtering, lawmakers are looking to revisit the question of whether to expand casino gaming outside its borders, with the Meadowlands being a likely target.

Last month, the Meadowlands Regional Chamber of Commerce released the results of a survey of 93 northern New Jersey businesses, 76 percent of whom felt that the best place to put a new gambling facility would be the Meadowlands Sport Complex.

Talk of a possible 2015 referendum has the chamber updating its 2011 “vision plan” for the region to include as many as four casino-style gambling facilities.

The expanded plan includes a resort casino district, a so-called “racino” with slot machines at the Meadowlands Racetrack, a convention center and expanded parking to accommodate visitors to the facilities, as well as the long-stalled American Dream Meadowlands project, where construction is expected to return in full swing soon.

“A casino will allow the Meadowlands to draw on an already existing customer base that wants to gamble and be entertained, but is currently driving past us to get to casinos in nearby states,” chamber president Jim Kirkos said before the meeting.

Atlantic City’s gaming revenues have been on a downward trend since 2006, falling from a high of $5.2 billion to $2.8 billion last year. Industry analysts attribute much of that decline to competition from neighboring states that have legalized gambling. Those who support pushing New Jersey gaming northward say it could help recapture some of the revenue bleeding outside state borders.

Another proposal would put a $4.6 billion casino project next to Liberty National Golf Course in Jersey City.

Meanwhile, more out of state competition is looming, with four resort-style casinos expected to be approved in New York state by fall, according to The New York Times.

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90 Responses to Casinowars

  1. grim says:

    They are selling the vision of Vegas Strip or Revel 2.0, when in reality these developments will be dirty Walmarts full of slot machines. Nobody is going to make a massive investment in development only to have a dozen more casinos open up next door.

    Funny thing is, we don’t even need to build in the Meadowlands, this could all be one fantastic bluff to get NY to fold (sorry for the bad pun).

  2. grim says:

    From Housingwire:

    Millennials better at paying their mortgages

    The youngest group of mortgage borrowers posted the lowest mortgage delinquency rate, falling to 2.34% at the end of the second quarter, according to a new report from TransUnion.

    “Mortgage delinquency rates continue to drop and we are seeing this decline across all age groups,” said Steve Chaouki, head of financial services for TransUnion.

    However, it is important to note that this age group also makes up the smallest portion of mortgage accounts, only representing 4.16%.

    “Overall, the improvements in the mortgage delinquency rate can be attributed to a number of factors. These include the clearing of severely delinquent accounts through foreclosure as well as a lower rate of new delinquencies from post-recession vintages, which generally are of significantly higher credit quality and have experienced much better performance than mortgages originated before the recession,” Chaouki said.

    “This dynamic is likely driving the low delinquencies among younger borrowers. It is encouraging to see younger borrowers perform well, since their generation was significantly impacted by the recession and their loans are among the newest,” he added.

  3. anon (the good one) says:

    you are correct, no comparison.

    cops didn’t murder Bundy

    Toxic Crayons says:
    August 20, 2014 at 6:03 am
    There’s no comparison. There was no looting or rioting in Nevada.

    anon (the good one) says:
    August 19, 2014 at 5:06 pm
    good analysis. very factual

    Not Ebola the hillbilly cousing fkr says:
    August 19, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    The elephant in the room, which many cable news outlets have tried to gloss over, is the racial divide that exists at the center of the stand-off between protesters and police.

  4. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    Poked my head in early over morning coffee and already I see that the undesirables are arriving early.

    Going to the beach where there is no wifi, Bennies, or trolls.

  5. Ottoman says:

    Also, we have documented proof Bundy is a thieving criminal. The white privilege smear campaigns and character assassinations notwithstanding, we have no such proof of Michael Brown. Though we do have proof thanks to police reports that nothing in Brown’s alleged past had anything to do with why the cop hassled and shot him.

    you are correct, no comparison.

    cops didn’t murder Bundy

    Toxic Crayons says:
    August 20, 2014 at 6:03 am
    There’s no comparison. There was no looting or rioting in Nevada.

  6. Libturd in the City says:

    I think I’ll just let the progressives give each other BJs today.

  7. nwnj says:

    Uh, huh. I see this shltbag is back.

    Michael Brown Store Robbery Caught On Camera
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysQDQfX38mw

    Ottoman says:
    August 20, 2014 at 8:59 am
    Also, we have documented proof Bundy is a thieving criminal. …, we have no such proof of Michael Brown.

  8. grim says:

    Why no discussion of the altercation between Brown and the Officer? Why no discussion of the Officer’s fractured skull? Are we to believe that the Officer hit his head and fractured his own eye socket in the rush to get out of his car to shoot Brown?

    Brown clearly robbed the store, in a manner of a felony offense, even if this is not connected with the altercation, it shows a clear disregard for the law, property, society.

  9. grim says:

    While the officer may have had no knowledge of Brown’s committing of a felony crime, the fact of the matter is that Brown was well aware of his own crime.

    Being confronted by the police in a short period of time following the felony, surely Brown would have thought that he was going to being arrested, and it is plausible that Brown would have reacted in a manner atypical of a jay walking stop.

  10. Libturd in the City says:

    I wonder if Otto next is going to call the shoplifted blunts as fair payment of reparations. Would not surprise me.

    Facts: This huge man walks into convenience store, assaults employee and steals blunts. He doesn’t need a gun for his size combined with his actions are dangerous enough.

    This same man intimidating man reaches into a police car window, punches an officer and busts his eye socket.

    I suppose, this now half blind officer should have just let this animal walk, right?

  11. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    grim – in mod?

  12. grim says:

    Why no discussion of the “witness” accounts being proven wrong by the multiple autopsy reports? Why no discussion about the witness who had initially stated that Brown was shot in the back while running away, or the other witness that had indicated he was shot with his hands up. Why no discussion of the witness in the latter case, who in multiple media interviews has now presented different accounts, with numerous contradictions, stretching credibility.

    It would be quite a shame if the protest motto, “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot”, were based on a completely fabricated lie.

  13. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Methinks reason number 3 is a big one that not too many people are discussing.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bethy-hardeman/3-reasons-why-millennials_b_5579503.html

    3 Reasons Why Millennials Aren’t Buying Homes

    “What is causing this change, and what can millennials do to prepare themselves for homeownership? First, there are a few clear reasons why this younger generation may be losing ground in the homeownership game: creditworthiness, debt and urbanization.”

  14. 1987 Condo says:

    #12…well, then we really wouldn’t have a story, would we…..

  15. All Hype says:

    Lib (10):

    The Gentle Giant committed no less than 3 violent, yes anon and Otto, 3 violent felonies in a span of 10 minutes:

    1. Strong-armed robbery
    2. Aggravated assault on a police officer
    3. Attempting to grab a police officer’s weapon.

    In the process of committing felonies 2 and 3, he caused an orbital blowout fracture by punching the police officer in the face. This is a serious injury as it can cause blindness, neurological damage and a risk of death. Reports have stated the officer was hospitalized for 3-4 days for surgery and recovery.

    There are reports that Brown’s accomplice finally recanted his testimony and confessed that Brown punched the officer and went for his gun. The accomplice has stated that he say this happen as he was staring into the car from the passenger side. He even mocked the officer by stating he got beat up by a teenager. If true, this whole charade of the murder of an unarmed man is over. The officer had every right to shoot him as he would be reasonably fearing for his life while severly wounded.

  16. All Hype says:

    Here is a little tidbit regarding oribtal fractures. I met a guy last summer that got an orbital fracture playing sports. The guy had to sit in his house in the dark for 2 weeks and wait for the swelling to go down so they could do the surgery. The guy could not read, watch TV or any other activities that would cause fatigue in the eye. Once he got the surgry he still did not get his full vision back until 6 months after the accident. He stated that he still gets a lot of pain in his eye from the accident.

  17. Libturd in the City says:

    I know a snowboarder who had the same injury. Took about 6 months to recover and his vision requires some serious collective lenses.

    Deep down inside, I want to believe there is a cover up here. But that video is such a character assassination of Brown that I have too much doubt he is the angel that the media initially claimed he was.

    That idiot hipster protester from Austin, who keeps getting arrested, is really going to feel foolish when the investigation is completed.

  18. Ragnar says:

    Gentle Giant just thought he was playing Grand Theft Auto.
    The riots relate to people finding someone else to blame for their own cultural failures.
    The media coverage relates to the multiculturalism and subjectivist polylogism taught in universities, especially to liberal arts journalism students.
    The police are probably bullying assholes as well.
    Bonfire of the Vanities 2014

  19. anon (the good one) says:

    @CNBC:
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  20. A Home Buyer says:

    17 – Lib

    You mean after the falsified police investigation funded by the Koch Brothers to further the conservative agenda?

    You really think any level of of evidence short of the second coming of Jesus is going to convince that crowd of anything? Even if conclusive evidence is presented, there is too much negative energy out there. To many people have stake in this.

    The topic will quietly, but quickly, shift away from this event and instead focus on generics.

  21. Juice Box says:

    It is no longer about the shooting once the two Revs show up.

    http://books.google.com/books/about/Shakedown.html?id=0Wsc4k_49toC

  22. Libturd in the City says:

    IMO, the locals will believe it. The steadfast ultra progressives who descended on Ferguson like it was a pilgrimage to Mecca will most likely not. Though these media whores will abandon their cause as quickly as Obama has abandoned Gitmo. When it’s all said and done, their agenda of false claims of white cops wanting to shoot black kids will have been strengthened as will their base. Meanwhile, the burnt out remains of the stores looted in supposed protest of the false prophet will remain for years to come.

    On the bright side, one less criminal is alive today.

  23. anon (the good one) says:

    @Harpers:
    Average number of hours per week U.S. public-school teachers are required to work to receive base pay: 38
    (Sept ’14, 1 of 2) #HarpersIndex

  24. anon (the good one) says:

    @Harpers:
    Average number they actually work: 52
    (Sept ’14, 2 of 2) #HarpersIndex

  25. All Hype says:

    Lib (22):

    I see Ferguson, MO getting a federal oversight monitor after the town surrenders and accepts a consent decree from the DOJ. They will be watched to ensure that there is more minority hiring of police and they will monitor the use of force against the town folk. Also, the police chief will “voluntarily’ retire with a nice pension.

    Sadly, the town will now be a food desert as no supermarkets or local food stores will open up as the insurance costs will be too high. Shame for the nice, law abiding folks as they will need to go 5 miles to get a gallon of milk.

  26. Toxic Crayon says:

    I hope to see them both at the rally for Shaneen Allen in Atlantic county.

    Right?

    Juice Box says:
    August 20, 2014 at 10:23 am
    It is no longer about the shooting once the two Revs show up.

    http://books.google.com/books/about/Shakedown.html?id=0Wsc4k_49toC

  27. Toxic Crayon says:

    It must suck to be a middle class homeowner in Furgeson. If they have a mortgage, they are likely staring down the barrel of financial ruin. No one will want to move there after this.

  28. Juice Box says:

    Toxic population has declined a bit there over the last two decades and median income is only $36K which is actually higher than Newark NJ at $31k.

  29. Essex says:

    It’s all about pockets I would imagine. Nice little pockets somewhere. This is my take. St Louis has a past — for years very segregated and exclusionary. How do I know this? I watched Hail Hail Rock and Roll. (A must-see for anyone really)

    I also know that the out lying areas of St Louis have been a hell-hole for a long, long time. A powder keg if you will. These are the results of modern society continuing to stratify, continuing to condense until we are all as tightly formed as diamonds in Chi Fi’s @ss.

  30. Toxic Crayons says:

    ‘A dozen witnesses’ say Ferguson teen attacked cop before shooting

    http://nypost.com/2014/08/19/witnesses-say-ferguson-teen-attacked-cop-before-shooting/

  31. nwnj says:

    Let’s not forget this gem which introduced many of us to St Louis for the first time.

    Clark gets lost in the hood
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwBoa-NbNL8

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    ‘A dozen witnesses’ say Ferguson teen attacked cop before shooting

    Impossible. It’s not part of the script.

  33. grim says:

    He was only trying to give him a hug.

  34. Juice Box says:

    re# 34 – Script was changed…For you see results of 40 FBI agents interviews sent to Holder, then onto Pres O’s script writers.

    Script then changed to “excessive force” and militarization of Police and playing the race card.

    http://www.vibe.com/article/president-obama-ferguson-no-excuse-excessive-force-police

  35. grim says:

    I need a new car, going to rob Paul Miller tonight.

  36. Libturd in the City says:

    How many cars do you need?

    BTW, Truecar was awesome for me.

  37. Libturd in the City says:

    Apple to 1,000 presplit by xmas?

  38. 1987 Condo says:

    #38..have heard varying success/issues with Truecar…did dealers accept that price or did you negotiate from that..

  39. grim says:

    No, I mean I’m going to walk in, strong arm the keys, and drive off the lot. I feel I’m owed it.

  40. Juice Box says:

    That 918 Spyder is sweet Grim, why not grab one for the wife as well?

  41. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    After I finish with the addition of a patio and renovate the basement I will definitely be looking get a new car. Been eyeing some of the foreign diesels.

  42. Juice Box says:

    Ah I see the Mayor is giving the ole Rev a second chance today. I wonder if Deblasio is going to discuss incitement to riot?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/al-sharpton-cardinal-dolan-community-police-table-blog-entry-1.1910009

  43. 1987 Condo says:

    Lib, for your commuting, if you have not already done so, check in the WAZE app…

  44. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    [45] Seconding Waze. Tells you where the cops are too.

  45. Libturd in the City says:

    A Home Buyer (27):

    Excellent read. Confirms a lot of my thoughts and opened my eyes a bit to others. Thanks.

    Now for my Passion Fruit moment.

    When I was a teenager, I was completely obsessed with psychological studies on human behavior. Perhaps one could call it a Holocaust fetish. My indoctrination in Hebrew school as well as the overall JAPpiness of my schoolmates were certainly major influences. I was always trying to figure out why people behave the way they do. In the Holocaust, 12 million neighbors were murdered. Those killed were not criminals, did not look different and for the most part were charitable and productive members of society. It is just such a terrifyingly large number. I look at 911, ferry disasters, tsunamis, etc., and they pale in comparison to these genocides that occurred in the last century. As a matter of fact, they are small beans. Dare I say, almost non-events. Yet the focus and attention on these small issues, such as this Brown shooting or the recent Ebola scare astound me. ISIS for example, gets almost no press whatsoever, but has the potential to be a much bigger issue influencing our lives in much greater ways than the current skirmish in Gaza. Yet nary is there a mention of it. Certainly the progressives are not making it a focus of their agenda. I just read today that ISIS recorded a beheading of an American journalist in response of America’s defense of Iraq and sent it to Obama. One can try to claim these acts are only those of fundamentalists, but all of Europe (not just the fundamentalists) participated in the Holocaust. Heck, governments around the world were privy to the genocide and most actually sent the ships of immigrants back to Europe. And believe me, it wouldn’t take much to influence those non-fundamentalist Muslims who rarely denounce the actions of Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, etc., from joining them. After all, we are all pack animals striving to be loved, too often through conformity even when we know that what the majority values might be nonsensical or even immoral.

    When I was in Hebrew High School (yes I was so indoctrinated that I continued my Jewish miseducation after I was Bar Mitzvahed), the rabbi knew of my Holocaust fetish and requested I write a sort of dissertation on the Holocaust. I chose to compare the willingness of Europeans to kill their neighbors to the desire of teenagers to all wear the same labels and designers clothes. In both cases, one was deemed an outcast for not conforming. Even though in both cases, the benefits of conforming lacked any real positive value. I wish I could find the paper, but I think my parents threw it out. Probably in disgust. :P

    I know some here my find such a paper trite or sophomoric, but I think one can still make such a comparison today. And I truly believe humans today are just as capable of repeating the same mistakes made in the past. Though, I believe humans really all want the same thing. To be happy. Unfortunately organized religion continues to make humans act like idiots.

  46. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    Back for a moment to note that the MO gov has called for a “vigorous prosecution” and the Lt Gov publicly slammed him. This one is go a get ugly folks. Think combo of Rodney King and Trayvon. Pressure now on local prosecutor to turn case over to state AG. If he does so, and makes a “noisy withdrawal”, all hell is gonna break loose in Missouri. People will be thinking that it’s the second coming of Quantrill.

  47. Libturd in the City says:

    I’m all about the WAZE. Sadly, I thought of that technology about 5 years ago. You can ask Gator if you don’t believe me.

    Leaving Manhattan, it’s always a crapshoot between the GWB or the Lincoln. Some times, the traffic builds so quickly at the Lincoln that when I am four blocks away, I get rerouted up the WSH to the HH up to the GWB. I already have my sword too. :P

    Appreciate the tip though.

  48. Libturd in the City says:

    Captain Cheapo’s tip of the day.

    AwardWallet dot com and Points dot com

    AwardWallet site consolidates all of your reward information (like Mint and Yodlee) but does so much more with the information. Not only does it tell you when you are about to have your mileage/points expire, but it also tells you how close you are to gaining tiers in the various reward programs as well as auto logs you into these sites and more. You can also have the program email you when your points are within a month of expiring.

    I recently had some SPG (Westin) points expiring as well as some VirginAmerica points and I transferred them both into Delta points since they don’t expire. You might laugh, but I always get a minimum of 2 cents per mile out of my points. It doesn’t sound like much, but yesterday’s transfer alone saved me at least $200 in air travel costs.

    If you can’t find a code to get AwardWallet for free, I could probably get you a reference code from my account which was also free.

  49. Toxic Crayon says:

    HUFFINGTON POST REPORTER IN FERGUSON ASKS IF EAR PLUGS ARE ‘RUBBER BULLETS’
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/08/17/Huffington-Post-Reporter-in-Ferguson-Are-Ear-Plugs-Rubber-Bullets

  50. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I’ve only found one downside to Waze. If you drive through a rural area without cell service it still shows you where you are, but doesn’t give you a route until the cell service returns. It will also try to turn you around to avoid the area with no cell service because it doesn’t seem to rely as heavy on maps as it does on uploaded routes, which makes sense. When we go to Blairstown, NJ from MA we usually go all the way out US Route 84 and then cut down from Middletown, NY through Vernon or Sparta to Newton. Waze in the past has always wanted me to “square off” the journey by having me continue all the way West to Port Jervis before turning South, whereas I know three shorter routes along the SW hypotenuse of the right triangle instead of driving the West leg and then the South leg. On our trip down and back last week I was pleased to find out that Waze now finally “knows” one of the shorter routes, probably due to expanded Verizon coverage.

  51. anon (the good one) says:

    if one could only send some Ferguson cops

    @AP: BREAKING: US officials: Military weighs plan to send a small number of additional troops to Iraq.

  52. Libturd in the City says:

    Make sure they bring ear plugs, er bullets.

  53. Anon E. Moose says:

    Nom [48];

    “noisy withdrawal”

    That’s going to need an explanation for the crowd.

    http://www.palicensedefense.com/1/post/2013/02/thenoisy-withdrawal.html

  54. grim says:

    47 – Lib,

    Have you read Mass Hate by WPU professor Neil Kressel. One of my favorite profs at Willy P. He did a great course on the topic of extremism and group psychology. I think you would notice many similarities to they way you view group behavior in those kinds of situations. I suspect Kressel would agree with your view. The other major component in these behaviors is passiveness from broader society.

  55. Libturd in the City says:

    I thought the “noisy withdrawal” occurred when you’re in the middle of having sex and you pull out early to silence your partners moaning so you can better hear the dialogue on the TV. This is usually immediately followed by “noisy (bitching and) moaning.”

  56. Libturd in the City says:

    No…but I will. Back then it was a lot of Skinner, Pavlov and Milgram. Will check it out.

  57. Libturd in the City says:

    You know that author resides in Wayne.

  58. Toxic Crayon says:

    Now this is F@ked up….

    Democrats set up voter registration in front of Mike Brown memorial
    http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/08/20/democrats-set-up-voter-registration-in-front-of-mike-brown-memorial/

  59. nwnj says:

    #61

    Those property values just tanked another 10%. GTFO if you can.

  60. Ben says:

    The reason millenials aren’t buying is because it’s next to impossible. Every single lender 100% insists on selling their loan to Fannie so they go by the new guidelines, which don’t make any sense. They want to base the entire premise on monthly income rather than ability to actually repay the loan. I could have 5 million in the bank and they still wouldn’t give me a loan to buy a $600k house. It took me calling up Chase and yelling and screaming about how stupid they were for 2 straight weeks to finally get my loan approved on the last day.

    My situation was $0 in debt, 35% down payment, 810 credit score, and enough savings to make payments 7 years out. They didn’t give a f*** and still nearly denied my loan.

    Everyone else my age is still carrying a minimum of 80k in student loans, not nearly as good of a credit score, and barely enough to put down 20%.

  61. Libturd in the City says:

    Ben…you are right.

  62. Libturd in the City says:

    Toxic…that’s pretty brilliant.

  63. anon (the good one) says:

    @zerohedge: In last 5 minutes: Ukraine warplane shot down, Israel to blast Gaza and US sending more troops to Iraq: So… deescalation

  64. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    @ Ben

    Chase is the absolute worst. I had a closing date set, they had all of the information from me. I call them up a week before the closing date, they tell me the closing date is not a hard and fast date and just an estimate. I get that a date may change but communicate to me. I went off of the person in the underwriting group, their manager, the loan officer.

    And they had the nerve to follow-up a few days later after closing to get a feel for my experience. I haven’t used the word idiot so much in response to a survey.

  65. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    #61 Toxic

    Stop overreacting, voter registration doesn’t equate to actually voting. They probably wouldn’t go to the polls during the next election. And voting is an American right.

  66. grim says:

    When did Saul’s guys get to Ferguson? By the sound of it, sounds like last night, they got to work quick.

  67. Libturd in the City says:

    Chase is the worst. They have my two mortgages and without fail ask me to prove that I am paying my hazard insurance annually. My two mortgages have escrow so Chase has been paying the insurance company directly.

    Though when it comes to closing, most banks suck and offer no service after originating the loan until about 6 hours before the closing. I think that’s just how it works. Makes the borrower unnecessarily nervous, but it seemed to go that way with me the six times I’ve been through the process.

  68. A Home Buyer says:

    62 – Ben,

    I used Investor’s Mortgage but my experience was totally different (I assume we are approx. the same age).

    5% down payment, 30 year term, about 2 years worth of payments in bank, spouse had some student loans. Not a single issue besides the typical paperwork not being done when they said it would be. Closing was on time though and fees were reasonable.

    My biggest gripe was they told me they wouldn’t sell the mortgage… two weeks after closing Fannie owned me. Whatevs

  69. anon (the good one) says:

    @chrislhayes: On the block where Mike Brown shot, man just walked by weeping. Then bent over, hands on knees sobbing.

    @chrislhayes: No one’s really had the time or space to mourn.

  70. If we had a leader like Assad, he’d know what to do right now in Ferguson.

  71. Sometimes, you just have to get real bottom-line with the entitlement crowd.

  72. anon (72)-

    Boo f’ing hoo. We should all take a moment to mourn a two-bit thug- who got himself killed by basically being a criminal dumbass- rather than that journalist who got his head lopped off.

  73. Again, I think we’re firmly at a point where Bashir Assad would be an upgrade on Bojangles.

  74. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    [23] pain,

    I think I might have an orbital socket fracture. Got whacked in the face with my board in heavy surf. I had goggles on and the grocery opened up a cut next to my eye. Had a headache the rest of the day. But that wasn’t the worst of it.

    Surf was so bad here, OCBP was pulling folks out left and right. One of them was my daughter. A rip started near her. I was on shore, my head still ringing, when I saw she was drifting out. She wasn’t in the rip so I motioned her south. Then the longshore current started taking her north and she looked like she didn’t know what to do. I took off my glasses and was pocketing them when a guy who appeared to be a strong swimmer went over to her and a second later two lifeguards shot by me into the rip for another swimmer. I had started out for my girl but after handing off the other swimmer, one of the lifeguards went over to her and asked her if she wanted help into shore and she said yes. By that point I was halfway out so I just waited and the lifeguard handed her off.

    I don’t think she will go in the rest of the trip. But we’ll see.

    The OCBP is pretty amazing. I was right there and by the time I figured out there was a problem, they were off their stands and sprinting down the beach, and got out to the action before I got waist deep.

  75. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    @78 Glad your daughter is alright. Sorry to hear about the eye.

  76. Ragnar says:

    47, Libturd
    You might enjoy this book about the rise of the Nazis
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Ominous-Parallels-Freedom-America/dp/0452011175

    Each of the philosophic principles essential to the rise of Nazism in Germany has a counterpart in present-day America.

    Is the freest country on earth moving toward totalitarian dictatorship? What were the factors that enabled the Nazis to seize power in pre-war Germany? Do those same conditions exist in America today?

    These are the questions raised — and answered, with frightening clarity — by Leonard Peikoff, Ayn Rand’s intellectual heir, in his powerful book The Ominous Parallels.

    ominous parallels book cover”We are drifting to the future, not moving purposefully,” Peikoff warns. “But we are drifting as Germany moved, in the same direction, for the same kind of reason.”

    Some of the “ominous parallels” between pre-Hitler Germany and the United States that Peikoff identifies are: •Liberals who demand public control over the use and disposal of private property — social security, more taxes, more government control over the energy industry, medicine, broadcasting, etc.
    •Conservatives who demand government control over our intellectual and moral life — prayer in the schools, literary censorship, government intervention in the teaching of biology, the anti-abortion movement, etc.
    •Political parties devoid of principles or direction and moved at random by pressure groups, each demanding still more controls.
    •A “progressive,” anti-intellectual educational system that, from kindergarten to graduate school, creates students who can’t read or write — students brainwashed into the feeling that their minds are helpless and they must adapt to “society,” that there is no absolute truth and that morality is whatever society says it is.
    •A student radical movement (from the 1960’s through the violent anti-nukers and ecology fanatics of today) who are, Peikoff maintains, the “pre-Hitler youth movement resurrected.” The radicals are nature worshippers who attack the middle class, science, technology, and business.
    •The rise of defiant old-world racial hatreds disguised as “ethnic-identity” movements and “affirmative action.”
    •A pervasive atmosphere of decadence, moral bankruptcy, and nihilist art accompanied by the rise of escapist mystic cults of every kind — astrology, “alternative medicine,” Orientalists, extrasensory perception, etc.
    In an introduction to Peikoff’s book, Ayn Rand describes The Ominous Parallels as, “the first book by an Objectivist philosopher other than myself” and goes on to say that, “If you do not wish to be a victim of today’s philosophical bankruptcy, I recommend The Ominous Parallels as protection and ammunition. It will protect you from supporting, unwittingly, the ideas that are destroying you and the world.”

    In brilliantly reasoned prose, Peikoff argues that the deepest roots of German Nazism lie not in existential crises, but in ideas — not in Germany’s military defeat in World War I or the economic disasters of the Weimar Republic that followed, but in the philosophy that dominated pre-Nazi Germany. Although it was mediated by crises, Peikoff demonstrates that German Nazism was the inevitable climax of a centuries-long philosophic development, preaching three fundamental ideas: the worship of unreason, the demand for self-sacrifice and the elevation of society or the state above the individual.

    “These ideas,” Peikoff says, “are the essence of Nazism and they are exactly what our leading universities are now spreading throughout this country. This is the basic cause of all the other parallels.”

  77. anon (the good one) says:

    Ragnar, pls repost tomorrow early in the day for those who already went home today

  78. Ragnar says:

    Nom,
    I just sent you a message on your nom gmail.

  79. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    [78] fka

    Thanks. I doubt she was in real peril, more that it freaked her out a bit.

    Damned eye still hurts though. Gonna have a shiner tomorrow.

  80. Libturd at home says:

    I’ve got quite a reading list ahead. Now can someone find me some time?

  81. HouseWhineWine says:

    83. Don’t take any chances; get to an eye doctor tomorrow.

  82. Dark out. Time to rob some liquor stores.

  83. anon (the good one) says:

    @fieldproducer:
    Topical protesting in #Ferguson -> RT @DGisSERIOUS:

    “Go kill ISIS and leave us alone:” http://t.co/cPtkNFH2a4

  84. Libturd at home says:

    From the Rutgers Football message boards.

    “Highest sale price in Pisc@taway, huh? Even in real estate the man pads his record against cream puff competition.”

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