Millennials can’t catch a break

From the Washington Post:

Are home prices rising too quickly for millennials?

Many young workers today find that home prices are rising faster than their pay, making it harder for them to set aside the cash they need for the purchase, studies show.

The typical first-time home buyer today purchases a house that costs 2.6 times his or her annual income, according to a report released by Zillow this week. In the 1970s, new home buyers found homes that cost about 1.7 times their annual pay, the study found.

The shift means that people need bigger down payments to make the transition to home ownership. At the same time, they face obstacles that make it harder for them to save, such as student loan bills, higher rent costs and more expensive child care.

People have to strive for more expensive homes today than they did in the past because home prices have appreciated over time while wages have stayed mostly flat, says Svenja Gudell, chief economist for Zillow. “We’re seeing that first-time home buyers are renting for longer,” Gudell says. “Homes are more expensive so it takes them a while to get to that stage in their life.”

Consider, the typical home purchased by first-time home buyers cost a median $140,000 between 2010 and 2013, up from an inflation adjusted $87,300 in the 1970s, the study found. Meanwhile, the median income for first-time home buyers was $54,000 in 2013, about the same as it was in the 1970s, Zillow found.

As a result, aspiring home owners now spend more time than ever renting while they save up for the big purchase. Workers rent for six years on average before buying their first home — more than double the time spent renting in the 1970s, the report found. The median age for first-time home buyers is also up to 33, from 30 in the 1970s. Home buyers are also less likely to be married today.

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116 Responses to Millennials can’t catch a break

  1. grim says:

    From CNN Money:

    Good news: Homeowners spend like it’s 2006

    The latest evidence came from Home Depot (HD). The world’s largest home improvement retailer on Tuesday revealed it experienced a record number of transactions in the last three months. On average, shoppers spent more than at any point since 2006 and sales at stores open for a year or more jumped 6%.

    All of that suggests Americans are ramping up spending on efforts to spruce up newly-purchased homes or ones they’d like to sell. While housing might not be back to pre-crisis levels, it’s certainly looking a lot healthier.

    “We continue to see positive signs in the housing market,” Carol Tome, Home Depot’s chief financial officer, told analysts during a conference call.

  2. grim says:

    Anyone begun scanning the Ashley Madison data dump for NJ politician names?

  3. grim says:

    From the Star Ledger:

    New Jersey, U.S. officials vow to pursue federal funds for $20B Hudson rail tunnel

    The nation’s transportation secretary, Governor Christie and New Jersey’s two senators agreed Tuesday to work together to build a new train tunnel under the Hudson River with the goal of obtaining a “substantial” federal contribution to pay for what is projected to be a $20 billion project.

    The hourlong meeting, held at Sen. Cory Booker’s downtown Newark office, was described as the start of a years-long process to address the crumbling Hudson River tunnel and the Portal Bridge over the Hackensack River, both of which are 105 years old and fail often, causing massive train delays across New Jersey. The problems have been a major focus of public debate since July, when power blowouts and train failures in and near the tunnel provoked commuting nightmares four times during a five-day workweek.

    “The state of New Jersey supports the Gateway project and is committed to developing a framework with the federal government to begin it,” the four said in a statement released after the meeting ended. “We all recognize that the only way forward is equitable distribution of funding responsibility and the active participation of all parties. As commuters can attest, we cannot afford further delay.”

    The statement also said the four — Christie, Booker, Sen. Bob Menendez and Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx — “are committed to working together” to find ways to move Gateway forward, including possible federal grants that would not have to be repaid. It was the first meeting of such high-level leaders to discuss Gateway, a project that eventually could double the number of trains between New Jersey and New York.

  4. Juice Box says:

    Christie will be long out of office before the first shovel hits the ground.

  5. anon (the good one) says:

    @Salon:
    “Family-friendly” workplaces are a fraud, and America has become a nation of Amazons

    .
    @BernieSanders:
    It’s an outrage that women are forced back to work after giving birth simply because they can’t afford to stay home.

  6. anon (the good one) says:

    .
    @pdacosta:
    The number of Americans owing at least $100,000 in student debt more than quintupled in last decade to 1.82 million.

    .
    @BernieSanders:
    We have millions of Americans who are being crushed by high student debt. It just doesn’t make sense. #BernieInReno

  7. D-FENS says:

    6 – Why doesn’t he propose forgiving the debt and ending federal loan programs to solve the problem?

  8. grim says:

    It’s an outrage that women are forced back to work after giving birth simply because they can’t afford to stay home.

    Don’t understand this, shouldn’t this have been considered prior to taking the decision to have a child? I’m outraged that someone would make the conscious decision to bring a child into this world without considering how he or she would be able to support that child. Am I totally off base here? Nobody is being forced back to work. Unless by forced you mean needing to work to earn the wages necessary to pay for living expenses, like most of us already do every day.

  9. Ben says:

    The number of Americans owing at least $100,000 in student debt more than quintupled in last decade to 1.82 million.

    I know, it might have something to do with your favorite politicians solving the problem of rising tuition by making more money available.

  10. grim says:

    Who takes on $100,000 in student loan debt? Clearly the education is wasted, save for someone becoming a physician, in which case they don’t need the assistance to pay back.

  11. Ben says:

    It’s an outrage that women are forced back to work after giving birth simply because they can’t afford to stay home.

    What BS. Half of the women I’ve seen do this do it because they don’t want to give up their lifestyle. I’ve seen cases where a Husband makes over 100k, and the wife makes 35k, and she goes back to work after 3 weeks because they need to “pay for day care”. Half of the time, I think they want someone else to take care of their kid. I’ve seen couples let day care practically eat up an entire salary. What is the point?

    The other thing is, in America, it’s almost become expected. Young women are sort of brainwashed into thinking that if you aren’t back at work, you are doing wrong by your kids. That’s the reaction I see whenever I’m talking to a twenty something female and they know my wife is at home.

  12. Essex says:

    I think the whole university skyrocket of tuition is obscene.

  13. grim says:

    12 – You step foot on a campus recently? It’s obvious where the money is going, and it has nothing to do with education.

  14. grim says:

    In addition to athletics accounting for 10-25% of tuition cost, which is absolutely absurd. I don’t understand why colleges have athletic programs at all, what the hell is the point?

  15. Ben says:

    Who takes on $100,000 in student loan debt? Clearly the education is wasted, save for someone becoming a physician, in which case they don’t need the assistance to pay back.

    The doctor’s are just as gullible. I’ve seen plenty of them take on 100 to 120k in undergrad followed by 200k at med school. They go into residency and the interest builds up.

    A friend of mine go out of residency and secured a $110k a year job out of the gates. After malpractice and student loans, he’s essentially lived like a person on a $50k a year salary. He’s 37 now. He says that the only way to live like doctor’s used to is to leverage their salary to borrow money, which is what they do.

    I give all my students some advice if they are looking to become doctors. If they are in it for the money, chances are, they are wasting their time. Usually they are smart of enough to make more elsewhere. Unless they plan on becoming a world class surgeon or something, there are better paths to wealth.

  16. D-FENS says:

    My wife stays home with the kids. I probably make less than the majority of people on this board. Nobody forced us to do anything. We had to make sacrifices. You just can’t live the standard of living two salaries provides.

  17. HeHateMe says:

    grim says:

    August 19, 2015 at 6:11 am

    Anyone begun scanning the Ashley Madison data dump for NJ politician names?

    Tony Blair was on list

  18. HeHateMe says:

    If you are insanely good looking and hung like a donkey making six figures or more welcome home

    D-FENS says:

    August 19, 2015 at 8:54 am

    My wife stays home with the kids. I probably make less than the majority of people on this board. Nobody forced us to do anything. We had to make sacrifices. You just can’t live the standard of living two salaries provides.

  19. Condo 1987 says:

    If these salaries are valid, not sure what these “Top” schools are charging for?

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-25-colleges-america-141300428.html

  20. leftwing says:

    3. Hudson Tunnel

    Noticeably missing from that party is NY.

    Still in upstate, local news covered a Cuomo event in the last couple of days. He was asked about the tunnel. Basically gave it sucker gut punch. Wish I had the quote but was incredibly blunt for a politician. Something along the lines of “tracks are Amtrak, trains are NJT, has nothing to do with us”. Reporter followed with a question on infrastructure commitment, Cuomo cut him off with something like “we are investing billions in LAG and the new Tappan Zee, infrastructure is a priority. The Hudson tunnel is not ours”.

  21. xolepa says:

    Ben,
    That Doctor must not be too bright to begin with. $110k a year is not even starting salary in the profession. Compare that to my oldest son, who is currently a Resident in Anesthesiology/Pain Management. He will be making 300-400k right out of the gates.

  22. FKA 2010 Buyer says:
  23. xolepa says:

    Tappan Zee is a NY boondoggle. It will self-destruct in several years. That IS NY’s problem.

    I wonder if the engineers who originally designed it are spinning in their graves.

  24. Condo 1987 says:

    Why were there no other bids on the Guidice shore house?

  25. grim says:

    Its not at the shore.

  26. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    The neighbors should at least cut the grass once a month.

    Ever Since The Great Recession, Zombie Houses Have Haunted New Jersey

    Michael McCabe knows what it’s like to be surrounded by zombies.

    Zombie houses, that is.

    McCabe still lives in the neighborhood where he grew up, Woodbury Heights, N.J., a middle-class suburb of Philadelphia. He knows which houses are in foreclosure and which have been abandoned. The latest seems to be right behind his own.

    “We don’t know what’s going to happen,” he says. “We’re kind of prepping, because a gentleman who was there, who rented, came and told us, ‘I’m just letting you know: I’m moving. That means the grass isn’t going to get cut by me.’ And the house is in foreclosure.”

    http://www.npr.org/2015/08/18/432727332/ever-since-the-great-recession-zombie-houses-have-haunted-new-jersey

  27. joyce says:

    xolepa,
    If only everyone was you / your son / your experiences. Ask me how I know.

  28. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    When was this popular? Outside of catching a ride to the train station with a neighbor, I can’t imagine riding in a car with a stranger. I’ve always wondered how does this works.

    Why carpooling is losing popularity in New Jersey

    http://nj1015.com/why-carpooling-is-losing-popularity-in-new-jersey/?trackback=tsmclip

  29. Ben says:

    That Doctor must not be too bright to begin with. $110k a year is not even starting salary in the profession. Compare that to my oldest son, who is currently a Resident in Anesthesiology/Pain Management. He will be making 300-400k right out of the gates.

    If that’s true, your oldest son is the exception, not the rule. You talk to most doctors now a days, there is a reason none of them want their kids to go into the profession.

  30. grim says:

    28 – Carpool app?

  31. njescapee says:

    Diplomats from Third World countries say the area around the United Nations is crawling with more vagrants than their impoverished homelands.
    “America is the one of the richest countries in the world, and New York is one of the richest cities. But there are more homeless people here than there are in Gambia,” said that nation’s attaché Alieu Samba, 74, whose African nation ranks 182nd out of 194 global economies.
    “When officers come here from Gambia for a meeting, they see all these homeless people laying down on benches. They say, ‘What are they doing there?’ ”
    Ivory Coast diplomat Dogu Gnahore, whose country’s poverty rate is more than 40 percent, said that “in Africa, we think of America as a place in the sky.”
    “It’s very shocking to see how it really is,” said Gnahore, 53. “I can’t understand how in New York, you can come and see people living on the street.”
    A staffer at the Guyanese consulate, Courtney Noel, said homelessness in his impoverished South American country isn’t nearly as glaring as in Manhattan’s Turtle Bay.
    “It’s ironic and embarrassing that they’re right in front of the United Nations,” he said.
    “We’re an organization that seeks to protect and help people around the world, and here, there’s poverty right in your face.”
    Modal Trigger
    Alieu Samba, diplomat from Gambia
    Photo: David McGlynn
    A diplomat from war-torn Iraq called the hordes of bums “a very painful thing to see.”
    “In Baghdad, we have a lot of homeless, too. But at least the social network is very strong there,” he said.
    At Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, a city park dubbed the Gateway to the United Nations, The Post spotted about 20 disheveled people sleeping or otherwise killing time Tuesday afternoon.
    One man kicked off his sneakers and curled on a bench next to a pile of belongings, while a small clique gathered along the edge of a fountain, amid empty beverage containers and other litter.
    The superintendent at a nearby apartment building said the number of homeless people in the area had surged recently — and was ruining the Big Apple’s reputation.
    “People from 180 other countries come through here and take that image back home,” said ­Mohammed Mroueh, 56.
    “They do their laundry, they shave, they shower. You even see them making love under the blankets,” he added.
    Indian diplomat Man Soni faulted Mayor Bill de Blasio’s administration for not addressing the problem.
    Modal Trigger
    Courtney Noel, staff member for meeting support services for Guyana.
    Photo: David McGlynn
    “The city should be doing what they’re supposed to be doing,” he said. “We have extreme poverty in some parts of India. Poverty is there, but homelessness is much less. Society takes care of them.”
    A UN tech worker said the situation reminded him of when he immigrated from Russia 25 years ago and then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani was starting to crack down on quality-of-life offenses.
    “[Ex-Mayor Michael] Bloom­berg did an excellent job taking the torch from Giuliani. But with de Blasio, things are getting worse,” he said.
    The president of the Friends of Dag Hammarskjold Plaza said the situation was so bad that the nonprofit started shelling out “thousands of dollars” to have The Doe Fund send ex-homeless people to clean up the park twice a day.
    Sherrill Kazan said public drinking, drug use and worse — including urination and defecation — also had her group “talking about actual surveillance” of the park.
    “If you can’t monitor it, you can’t control it,” she said.

  32. Comrade Nom Deplume, sipping a fruity drink by the pool. . . says:

    [5] anon (thankfully)

    Were you going for the irony on purpose?

  33. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    I was late to party and got in around $250ish but its been a great stock.

    Google went public 11 years ago today

    Its stock price is up more than 1,500%.

    Google’s stock has been, historically, one of the best performers in the stock market over the last decade. But 11 years ago to this day, Google’s IPO was considered a disappointment.

    On August 19, 2004, Google went public with a price of $85 for its roughly 19.6 million shares, which as CNBC’s Bob Pisani noted, was at the low end of expectations. The reason was manifold, starting with Google’s choice to sell their shares through a Dutch auction, where buyers went online to indicate the price and amount of shares they wanted until Google determined a fair price for their shares. As USA Today recounts, this didn’t please those who wanted the option of offering first dips at these shares to their interested clients.

    http://fortune.com/2015/08/19/google-public-ipo-11-years/

  34. Comrade Nom Deplume, sipping a fruity drink by the pool. . . says:

    [30] grim,

    They had one for decades in DC: the Slug Lines. The app was simply collective realization

  35. D-FENS says:

    @JamesOKeefeIII: Fascinating: CNN’s @AC360 and @GaryTuchmanCNN cross the US/Mexican border back and forth just to prove they can… https://t.co/CWSCeStMhV

  36. Essex says:

    Jared….a naughty man…who it seems is a “kiddie fiddler”.

  37. grim says:

    Did Trump just call the Constitution unconstitutional?

  38. Libturd in Union says:

    Went to get my 2.5 year old a hearing test today. The enormous amount of paperwork I needed to fill out took longer than the test. Something is wrong with this.

  39. Libturd in Union says:

    “Jared….a naughty man…who it seems is a “kiddie fiddler”.

    You didn’t think eating Subway sandwiches alone would have provided him enough exercise to lose weight.

  40. jcer says:

    39, I knew there had to be something very wrong with any person who eats subway everyday……

  41. D-FENS says:

    Walter Williams’ Advice to Donors: Go to university’s website. If you find Office of Diversity, close you pocketbook http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2015/08/19/academic-fascism-ii-n2039647/page/full

  42. xolepa says:

    Ben,
    What many laypeople don’t realize about the Medical School/Residency process is that you have to pass Board tests along the way. And at the end, when you are looking to match yourself to a residency program, you have to be a good interviewee, essentially be considered ‘worthy’ of getting into a top flight program. The matchups don’t come easy. The program directors judge you on Med school grades, Board tests and the results of your interview.
    If you make the cut on all three levels, then you should be ahead of the curve. If you don’t feel you can run with that pack, you set your own level and match criteria lower.

  43. D-FENS says:

    Mark J. Perry ‏@Mark_J_Perry 21m21 minutes ago
    SOWELL: Most Americans are descendants of immigrants, but most Americans are NOT descendants of ILLEGAL immigrants http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2015/08/18/random-thoughts-n2039800?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

  44. Libturd in Union says:

    Can you fault the man for wanting a little pickle with his sandwich?

  45. D-FENS says:

    I think you could argue that “anchor babies” are a misinterpretation and not the original intent of the amendment.

    grim says:
    August 19, 2015 at 10:59 am
    Did Trump just call the Constitution unconstitutional?

  46. D-FENS says:

    Could Trump really change birthright rules?

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/opinions/cevallos-trump-14th-amendment/

    Most people assume that automatic citizenship conferred upon those born in the United States has always been a constitutional, and therefore immutable, right. Some are now suggesting that’s not the case.

    On one side, supporters of birthright citizenship argue it was established by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, and settled by the Supreme Court in 1898, when it held that children born in the United States, even to parents not eligible to become citizens, were nonetheless citizens themselves under that amendment.

    The language of the 14th Amendment by itself seems unambiguous:

    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

    But let’s deconstruct that clause: Anyone [Born Here], plus [“Subject to Jurisdiction Thereof”]. The “being born here” part is clear, but what about the additional requirement of being “subject to jurisdiction [of the U.S.]”?

    That jurisdictional requirement of the citizenship clause is something you might just read over — maybe because you got the gist of it at the “born” part of the clause, and just stopped reading. But it’s there.

    What exactly was the meaning of the jurisdiction clause in 1868 when the 14th Amendment was ratified?

    Does it just mean that the baby has to be born in a place that is “subject to federal jurisdiction”? If so, isn’t that already covered … by the part about being born in the U.S.?

    Does it instead mean the baby is subject to federal jurisdiction in the sense that the baby must abide by federal laws, like those prohibiting mail fraud or bank robbery? Saying out loud that babies must obey federal law seems just a bit unnecessary — or insane.

    Many scholars point to that “jurisdiction” part of the citizenship clause, together with its history, and contemporary law as proof that citizenship is not a constitutional birthright, but something that the government can either giveth, or taketh away.

    Legal analyst Ken Klukowski compares the language of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 with the 14th Amendment, which was written the same year. The former grants American citizenship — to all persons born in the United States, and not “subject to any foreign power.” Klukowski argues that this is proof that the intent of the 14th Amendment was to require that you not only be born here, but that your parents were citizens too.

    Reading legislative intent from hundreds of years ago is always tricky, but there is some modern support for this position.

    For example, current immigration rules provide that a child born to a foreign diplomat on U.S. soil is not a citizen, because the baby is not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. Laws like that, you may well think, should be automatically “trumped” by a Constitution that unconditionally guarantees birthright citizenship.

    As for the Supreme Court decisions recognizing birthright citizenship, high court decisions are the law of the land, until an act of Congress or a constitutional amendment overrules them.

    There is another interesting wrinkle: Many citizens may not realize that their citizenship is not covered by the Constitution, but rather by federal statute. Currently those born in the U.S. territories do not have birthright citizenship via the Constitution, but by statute — or not at all, in the case of American Samoa. It is interesting, according to advocate and fellow territorial attorney Neil Weare, that we are talking about a candidate opposing birthright citizenship, even as the Obama administration in fact opposes birthright citizenship for American Samoans in a case before a federal court of appeals.

    And then there’s me.

    I was born in Japan. My parents are American: The Navy sent my father; my mother went with him — probably to try a new country where she could complain about food. Because I was born abroad to American parents, I acquired citizenship at birth not from the Constitution, but under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. That means for people like me, and even Ted Cruz, our citizenship only emanates from a federal statute, which can be repealed.

    It turns out that reasonable minds disagree on birthright citizenship — a principle that most of us never thought about until this presidential campaign. The issue doesn’t just touch children of immigrants — it reaches all citizens whose citizenship is a product of federal law and not the constitution.

    So could a President Trump abolish birthright citizenship? That depends on what the 14th Amendment actually means, and whether a president could rally a Congress around the idea.

    But a president and Congress can certainly try, based either on the limited view of the current Constitution, or even by amendment: Even amendments are, well, able to be amended. (Remember when alcohol was legal, then it wasn’t legal, then it was legal again?)

    Don’t think the Constitution can’t change; it has flip-flopped before. Perhaps birthright citizenship is constitutionally guaranteed — until it isn’t.

  47. yome says:

    Re birth right
    I am against giving citizenship to a kid born in the US from foreign parents and kid did not grow in the US. At age 18 asking to be a US citizen. I am pro birth right to the kid that was born and grew in the US from illegal parents.

  48. D-FENS says:

    WTF did you say?

  49. D-FENS says:

    CNSNews.com ‏@cnsnews 29m29 minutes ago
    WARNING GRAPHIC VIDEO: #PlannedParenthood caught harvesting organs from still alive infants http://ow.ly/R5XkJ #PPSellsBabyParts

  50. A Home Buyer says:

    48 – D-FENS

    Try reading this.

    I actually found it very interesting (it went against what I thought) and would love to hear a more experienced legal person’s view of the discussion presented within.

    http://www.originalintent.org/edu/14thamend.php

  51. HeHateMe says:

    It is like Uber Except it was free.

    For instance when gas prices shot through the roof in the 1970s and you have even/odd gas prices and cars got bad gas millage they became popular.

    For instance my Uncle worked at Exit 33 (great neck) of the Long Island Express way at Sperry back in the 1970s. Houses get cheaper the further you go out on Long Island. So he had folks at work who lived off LIE ranging from exit 50-64. Around Exit 50 there is a big park and ride. So you get four guys at Sperry who live between exits 50-60 meet there every week at park and ride and one week a month only one guy drives. Saves a ton of gas, wear and tear on car and also boss had hard time making you work OT as would make other three guys late.

    Also Route 110 had a ton of good happy hour bars. I recall the car pool guys would on Thursdays go out together.

    They had another one around exit 57. They also all had pay phones in them.

    By the 90s drug dealers, tired truckers, and gay men replaced Dagwood Bumstead.
    FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    August 19, 2015 at 9:43 am

    When was this popular? Outside of catching a ride to the train station with a neighbor, I can’t imagine riding in a car with a stranger. I’ve always wondered how does this works.

    Why carpooling is losing popularity in New Jersey

    http://nj1015.com/why-carpooling-is-losing-popularity-in-new-jersey/?trackback=tsmclip

  52. Essex says:

    Note: the women in the Hamptons are stunning.

  53. yome says:

    There were incidents of foreigners giving birth in the US just to get a US Passport for the kid then go back to the homeland. During Passport renewal the US emabassy should revoke The US passport.

  54. The Great Pumpkin says:

    31- Amen!! It’s a head scratcher to think that we are the richest nation in the history of man, yet 3rd world nation leaders are questioning why the poor are better off in their crappy economies.

    The greed of the U.S. elite is downright disgusting. Their day is coming soon, Bernie is leading the charge. If they despise Bernie, they must understand that he is nothing more than a consequence of their greed. They created him, without their greed, he would have no power without their greed. “Struggle” is the main ingredient in the recipe for change/revolution. Make enough people struggle and change will be coming.

  55. HeHateMe says:

    As a person who had 13 Hampton house while single they truly are some stunning ones. The amazing part is the super stunning ones sometimes don’t get asked out a lot.

    I got invited to a house party that was Beach front. Older crowd of really rich guys and some girls in the house. I saw a girl who was insanely hot by herself. And I guess the sun must of have burnt my brain as well as the many beers and I went up to her. When I mean hot I mean hot like a girl you only see in real life maybe ever 5-10 years. Turns out she was in the house and guys in house had the “bro-code” which nearly every Hampton house has, no girlfriends as shares and the girls in the house no sleeping with or hitting on to Labor day weekend.

    Well this was a few weeks before Labor day so she was in the “friend-zone”, so I start chatting her up. And I felt like someone beemed me into a 747 midflight or I was riding a wild bull. In the end we had 20 minutes of great conversation and I decided not to attempt anything not even ask for a number or give my number. Why first I was in her Summer house already, she told me where she lived and told me she was coming back next Friday. I circled the airport and suddenly she says she may go to Flying Point Beach the following weekend if she can get a ride, AHHHH I had the resident only beach pass on my Mercedes which is super had to get. I said I would give her the ride and would be at her house at 10:30 am next sat and left. No phone number or nothing. I took her to beach. Housemates were like WTF, the key to Hamptons is no one knows how much money you make. It is fake it and then fake it someone. The Mercedes fresh paint job, is that a beater with a Macco paint job or what. My house in Southampton do I own or rent or just a 1/4 share, my job on wall street am I a clerk or a Trader. A few weeks later I took her to my friends wedding to show off. It was funny the photographer was snapping pictures of my date and I saw a few friends do it too. Anyhow wedding photos came out a few months later and my friend was like OMG you girlfriend ended up in a few of our pictures and my wife wants to know when you are putting a ring on that. I am like we already broke up. Somehow I knew she would never last long. I felt like I cant keep this game up. Even Billy Joel could not keep Christie Brinkley. But funny I ran into her after I was engaged totally by random. I could have totally landed her as I think I was not only guy scared off.

    Essex says:

    August 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    Note: the women in the Hamptons are stunning.

  56. Libturd in Union says:

    Plumpy.

    What are you gonna do when the Colonel gets elected and his lack of support in the congress and senate leaves him powerless (at least until mid-term elections)?

  57. D-FENS says:

    JJ don’t go changing your handle dude.

  58. yome says:

    Six high schools in New Jersey were placed among the nation’s 10 best secondary-education institutions, according to Newsweek.
    High Technology High School, a public magnet in Linccroft, was named the nation’s second-best high school in the news magazine’s yearly ranking of the top 500 schools in the country.

    Other New Jersey schools making the top 10 included the Academy for Mathematics, Science and Engineering in Rockaway; Union Count Magnet High School in Scotch Plains; the Bergen County Academies in Hackensack; the Middlesex County Academy for Science, Mathematics and Engineering Technologies in Edison; and the Academy of Allied Health and Science in Neptune.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/New-Jersey-High-School-Rankings-Newsweek-Top-500-Rankings-NY-NJ-322291872.html?partner=nbcnews

  59. Libturd in Union (channeling JJ) says:

    Man are those top (however many numbers) lists popular. The attraction is especially unusual when you consider how anti-tracking the progressive movement has become. But fear not if your school, favorite restaurant or hot dog are not on the list. You can always play the PARCC card and make excuses why trying to evaluate items is bad for society.

  60. yome says:

    NJ High School on the List

    2 High Technology High School NJ 99.7 100.0% 100.0% 0
    3 Academy For Mathematics Science And Engineering NJ 98.2 100.0% 100.0% 0
    4 Union County Magnet High School NJ 97.2 100.0% 100.0% 10
    5 Bergen County Academies NJ 95.9 100.0% 100.0% 2.9
    7 Middlesex County Academy for Science, Mathematics and Engineering Technologies NJ 95.0 100.0% 100.0% 0
    9 Academy Of Allied Health And Science NJ 93.9 100.0% 100.0% 3.1
    11 Academy For Allied Health Sciences NJ 93.7 100.0% 100.0% 15.6
    13 Millburn High School NJ 93.5 100.0% 99.5% 1.3
    21 Middlesex County Academy for Allied Health & Biomedical Sciences NJ 91.3 100.0% 100.0% 11.3
    24 Academy For Information Technology NJ 90.8 100.0% 100.0% 8.5
    28 Bergen County Technical High School – Teterboro NJ 89.8 100.0% 99.3% 10.9
    37 Ridge High School NJ 88.3 100.0% 96.0% 1.4
    41 Holmdel High School NJ 87.9 100.0% 98.1% 2.6
    42 Hillsborough High School NJ 87.9 98.3% 93.0% 6.4
    62 Marine Academy Of Science And Technology NJ 86.3 100.0% 98.5% 2
    68 New Providence High School NJ 85.7 100.0% 98.2% 3.6
    69 Chatham High School NJ 85.6 99.7% 97.2% 2.7
    70 Bernards High School NJ 85.5 99.4% 97.1% 7.9
    80 Summit Senior High School NJ 85.2 98.9% 94.3% 15

    83 Union County Tech NJ 85.1 98.4% 100.0% 19.2
    84 Haddonfield Memorial High School NJ 85.1 99.5% 97.4% 2.2
    85 Cherry Hill High School East NJ 85.0 100.0% 96.0% 9.3
    102 Ridgewood High School NJ 84.6 98.4% 96.2% 1.5
    107 Hopewell Valley Central High School NJ 84.4 100.0% 89.8% 2.4
    109 Cresskill High School NJ 84.2 100.0% 96.8% 2.7
    118 Bridgewater-Raritan Regional High School NJ 83.7 98.3% 95.0% 6.9
    121 Marine Academy Of Technology And Environmental Science NJ 83.4 100.0% 100.0% 6.2
    127 Northern Valley Regional High School At Demarest NJ 83.2 100.0% 98.1% 1.3
    141 Sparta High School NJ 82.8 99.3% 98.7% 3.7
    142 Watchung Hills Regional High School NJ 82.8 98.1% 98.7% 3.1
    147 Morris County School Of Technology NJ 82.6 100.0% 88.8% 8.5
    149 Academy For Performing Arts NJ 82.6 100.0% 100.0% 15.5
    151 West Morris Central High School NJ 82.5 99.7% 97.1% 1
    164 Randolph High School NJ 82.2 99.3% 92.8% 4.5
    169 Mahwah High NJ 82.1 99.0% 96.8% 8
    171 Moorestown High School NJ 82.1 99.4% 95.5% 8
    172 Dr. Ronald McNair High School NJ 82.1 100.0% 98.7% 46.7
    180 West Morris Mendham High School NJ 81.9 99.4% 97.3% 0.6
    195 Glen Rock High School NJ 81.5 100.0% 97.0% 0.4
    212 Montville Township High School NJ 81.1 100.0% 93.6% 2.6
    241 Northern Valley Regional Old Tappan High School NJ 80.5 99.7% 94.9% 1.3
    248 Mountain Lakes High School NJ 80.3 98.8% 87.8% 0.9
    259 Wayne Hills High School NJ 80.0 99.7% 91.9% 7.9
    274 West Essex High School NJ 79.7 100.0% 95.5% 2.7
    275 Northern Highlands Regional High School NJ 79.7 99.0% 97.1% 0.6
    285 Marlboro High School NJ 79.5 100.0% 96.0% 4.6
    288 Metuchen High School NJ 79.5 99.4% 91.8% 10.6
    320 Voorhees High School NJ 78.7 100.0% 85.4% 4.9
    329 Allentown High School NJ 78.6 100.0% 90.2% 6.6

    347 North Hunterdon High School NJ 78.2 97.9% 93.0% 1.2
    354 River Dell Regional High School NJ 78.1 100.0% 93.9% 1.9
    357 Hunterdon Central Regional High School NJ 78.0 100.0% 93.3% 7.7
    426 Fair Lawn High School NJ 77.1 96.8% 95.9% 5.5
    478 Hanover Park High School NJ 76.4 99.5% 97.6% 3.5
    483 Whippany Park High School NJ 76.3 98.8% 92.9% 1.9
    485 Scotch Plains-Fanwood High School NJ 76.3 100.0% 95.5% 7.4

  61. Condo 1987 says:

    Yvonne Craig, RIP

  62. Wily Millenial says:

    >When was this popular? Outside of catching a ride to the train station with a neighbor, I can’t imagine riding in a car with a stranger. I’ve always wondered how does this works.

    Slugging is big in DC, you can’t drive on I-66 during rush hour without anotger passenger. Tolls are so high to NY, I don’t get why it doesn’t happen here. There’s plenty of decent places to pick up passengers to chip in $3 for the Lincoln or Holland, if they allowed it.

    NJ is the least carpool-friendly state I’ve ever lived in, at least you get a GWB discount. The “high occupancy / toll” lanes are all the rage on the West Coast. Even crappy ol’ Hartford has a decent HOV system.

  63. D-FENS says:

    anon’s big government….helping the poor

    Meijer investigated in Wisconsin for pricing too low

    http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2015/08/meijer_investigated_in_wiscons.html

    MADISON, WIS — Meijer’s recent opening of two Wisconsin stores has led to a state investigation to determine if the Midwest retailer violated a Depression-era law that keeps products from being sold below cost.

    There are 37 products reported in four complaints filed against the Michigan-based retailer, according to documents provided to MLive and The Grand Rapids Press under the Freedom of Information Act by the state of Wisconsin.

    Products reported to be priced too low range from 28-cent a pound bananas to a $1.99 gallon milk.

    THE LIST
    Meijer products priced too low in Wisconsin

    Based on complaints against Meijer with state of Wisconsin

    • Bananas – 28 cents a pound

    • Tomatoes – 79 cents a pound

    • Broccoli crowns – 68 cents a pound

    • Kellogg’s pop tarts – $1.50 per box

    • Land O’Frost lunchmeat – $2.89 a pound

    • Jack’s Pizza – $1.99 for 17.7 ounce package

    • Powerade – 24 ounces, 32-ounces for 59 cents per bottle

    • Edy’s Ice Cream – $2.49 for 1.5 gallon

    • Keebler Fudge Shop Cookies – $1.65 for 12.5 ounce bag

    • Cheez-it crackers – $1.83 for 12.4 ounce box

    • Pepsi 12-pack varieties – $3

    • Zucchini – 56 cents per pound

    • 80 percent lean beef – $2.49 for one pound

    • Seedless watermelon – $2.88 for 1

    • Purina Puppy Chow – $9.99 for 16.5 pound bag

    • Russet potatoes – 99 cents for 5 pounds

    • Red cherries – $2.49 for a pound

    • Cheerios – $1.88 for 18 ounce box

    • Chips Ahoy – $1.79 for 13 ounce package

    • Kraft Cheddar Cheese – $1.88 for 8 ounce package

    • Mountain Dew – 69 cents for 2 bottles

    • Tyson Buffalo Chicken Strips – $3.99 for 25 ounces

    • Snickers Ice Cream bars – $2.55 for 12 pack

    • Tone Body bar – $1.99 for six bars

    • Purex liquid detergent $2.99 for 75 ounces

    • Cascade Pacs – $3.99 for 22-count package

    • Ajax Liquid – $1.50 for 28 ounce package

    • Bush’s baked beans – $1 for a 29 ounce can

    • Kemp’s Select Milk – $1.99 for a gallon

    • Ball Park meat franks – $1.25 for 15 ounce package

    • Blueberries – $1.25 for 15 ounce basket

    • Yoplait Yogurt – 33 cents for 6 ounce container

    Source: Documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act
    The complaints were filed with the Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection, which is charged with enforcing the the Unfair Sales Act, also known as the minimum markup law, which covers the sale of gas, tobacco and general merchandise products sold in Wisconsin.

    The complaints were made by Milwaukee attorney Gerardo “Jerry” Gonzalez with the Milwaukee firm Gonzalez, Saggio and Harlan for an unidentified client. Gonzalez didn’t respond to a request for comment by MLive.

    In one of his complaint letters to the state, Gonzalez noted Meijer’s entry into the Wisconsin market is significant.

    “We believe Meijer’s failure to adhere to the requirements of the Unfair Sales Act will immediately result in injury to those retailers adhering to Wisconsin law,” he wrote.

    The supercenter chain is accused of breaking the Wisconsin law by advertising and selling products below its own costs.

    The complaints are tied to ads for Meijer’s grand opening sales prices of the Kenosha and Grafton stores in late July.

    The alleged violation of the so-called minimum markup law comes as Meijer is investing $750 million to expand into Wisconsin. This summer, the Michigan-based supercenter chain opened four stores in the Milwaukee area and expects to have at least a dozen stores open by 2019.

    While Meijer was aware of the law, the complaints surprised the privately-owned retailer, which has long competed on price in the marketplace and uses the advertising tagline “higher standards lower prices” in its commercials.

    “Those prices were for our grand opening promotions, which are consistent with the promotional prices we used when we opened the Michigan stores in Alpena, Manistee and Detroit,” said Frank Guglielmi, Meijer’s director of communications.

    This is the first time Meijer has been in hot water for pricing too low. The retailer operates more than 200 stores across a five-state footprint of Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky — in addition to its new stores in Wisconsin.

    Most states have laws that protect consumers from retailers taking advantage of shortages by price gouging. Wisconsin is among 16 states with minimum markup laws that have price protections for retailers, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    “This is a bit peculiar for us, we are not accustomed to regulations that limit our customers’ ability to save money when they shop with us,” Guglielmi said.

  64. joyce says:

    …”if they allowed it.”

    Wasn’t there reports of people getting in trouble in Fort Lee for picking up people right by the bridge?

  65. Wily Millenial says:

    Yeah but Christie supposedly stopped it (!)

    http://abc7ny.com/archive/8710714/

  66. HeHateMe says:

    At Subway today running a Jared special which gets you extra meat between the buns. But only if you let them tape it.

  67. A Home Buyer says:

    Previous Post(s),- Joyce

    And on the opposite side of the government spectrum, mother kills her three children over 14 month period. Arrested only after confessing to the last murder.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/police-suspicions-raised-before-mom-admitted-killing-sons/article_a46b98eb-1f7b-57a1-b707-851060b84df9.html

  68. Libturd in Union says:

    I’ve heard that Jared only goes for a 12″ when kids are around.

  69. Libturd in Union says:

    “And on the opposite side of the government spectrum, mother kills her three children over 14 month period.”

    Obviously, we must put ban on mothers.

  70. HeHateMe says:

    Just Ate Robert’s Entire Dick

    I think that is what Jared stands for

    Libturd in Union says:

    August 19, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    I’ve heard that Jared only goes for a 12″ when kids are around.

  71. Libturd in Union says:

    Why I love America

    Deez Nuts polling at 9 percent hahaha

    http://abc7ny.com/947241/

  72. The Great Pumpkin says:

    61- Nj kills that Newsweek rankings list.

  73. A Home Buyer says:

    70 – Lib

    It really is not too hard to see why no one in this country can agree on anything. We have so little commonality amongst ourselves and the experiences a typical citizen deals with wildly vary.

    A person in Ohio would not be entirely incorrect to ask how such a thing could happen, and what could be done to strengthen the police’s ability to protect these children.

    A person from New Jersey (or Kentucky apparently) would not be incorrect trying to figure out what can be done to protect parents against the government juggernaut that cannot be reasoned with and will break families apart without evidence.

  74. Libturd in Union says:

    AHB,

    Perhaps, rather than ban mothers, we should just limit their reproductive capacity, much like the ban on automatic magazines. Government regulation is good.

  75. grim says:

    75 – Neither ban should be necessary, if only common sense prevailed. Alas, you can’t legislate or mandate common sense.

  76. grim says:

    Gateway over ARC, and getting the Feds to pay, is the right approach, doesn’t matter if you like Christie or not.

  77. Banco Popular Trust Preferred Shares says:

    The Ashley Madison hack will find its way into every professional crevice known to working mankind. If the data turns out to be legit (and it certainly looks that way so far) there will be professional and personal repercussions across the country. Several sources within the advisor community reached out to us yesterday once the news hit that the data was being dumped onto the internet. Given that the actual data dump is on the ‘deep web’ you can bet that advisor productivity is going to take a hit – as advisors try to figure out what the ‘deep web’ even is and those engaged with Ashley Madison scramble to keep from being outed. Some of the notes that we received on this are outstanding in so many ways. Just read on for your own enjoyment:

    An advisor on the east coast, “This Ashley Madison thing has been blowing up my phone for the last two hours. Guys I’ve known for the past decade are freaking out over this. Not surprising that advisors were tapped in at the far end of the bell curve compared to other professions. As a group, advisors have more to lose in terms of personal and professional assets. To sum up the commentary from a couple guys I know, they are “scared as fcuk”. You can believe that two new searches that are accompanying the ‘deep web’ are private investigators and hackers for hire. Guys have talked about hiring hackers to somehow remove their names. I know of three who have already done exactly that. The market could drop 2000 points and it wouldn’t cause the same kind of panic as this.”

    A branch admin, “this is the ultimate schadenfreude for scumbags that thought this service was the internet version of a side piece that they can keep quiet. A lot of us talking about this today and laughing at advisors that we KNOW are going to get hit by this. Laughing our asses off actually. LOL!!”

    An HR source at a regional said the following, “we’ve had meetings this morning about this issue and how we may have increased HR questions from advisors and admin staff. Our tech staff gave us a print out, with redacted names and geographies, of personnel that could be affected just based off the last two years of internet activity on their desktops. You’d think guys would be smarter than that – but they aren’t. We’ve already fielded two “anonymous” questions about it. The kind where they are “asking for a friend”. Better than 95% of the data we looked at was from dudes.”

    Another advisor chimed in, “it is almost the entire conversation this morning on the way in and before the bell. I spoke with an attorney client and he said that he has been inundated with calls about this since yesterday afternoon. Every guy that I’ve talked to that uses the service is praying (**isn’t that rich) that the fake screen names that they use will protect their identities. Problem is the credit card info – thats going to be what nails most of them.”

    A source on the west coast, “guys wife just walked into the office and slammed a paper on his desk. Paper was his profile on Ashley Madison with a FXCK YOU written across the top. Then she just walked out. Wow.”

    Morality aside we live in a new age where your digital life is just a few clicks away for everyone to see. Don’t do stupid sh!it and stupid sh!t won’t generally happen to you. For those involved and about to be outed – I wonder how concerned they are today with comp grids and corporate culture??

  78. Banco Popular Trust Preferred Shares says:

    You sound like a country hick…… what fcuking rock did you crawl out from underneath? Montauk has been poisoned for now…..it is Billyburg East End with the requisite morons……a bunch of fcuking non-New Yorker clowns from Ohio and sundry asswipes who complain about shelling out $900K for their studio…….

    Essex says:
    August 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm
    Note: the women in the Hamptons are stunning.

  79. D-FENS says:

    Levin: ‘Completely False’ That Children Born to Illegals Have Constitutional Right to Citizenship

    http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-morris/levin-completely-false-children-born-illegals-have-constitutional-right

  80. Banco Popular Trust Preferred Shares says:

    Staying at Spray Beach….. feel bad…..tons of great new homes….the place look stunningly great, but it must have been wipe off the face of the earth three years ago…..walked into a brand new liquor store and the guy held his hand up to his eyes about how much water was there….

  81. Essex says:

    56. You gotta write s book, I’ll preorder a dozen

  82. Essex says:

    79. i don’t get out much.

  83. Juice Box says:

    re: High Tech in Lincroft – Not far from me, our youngest is a smart kid, however he is also lefty, he takes after his Grandma in that respect. We may be focusing on pitching for a while, Grandpa was a Minor league pitcher, but not a lefty. Going to be a few years before we really know if he is cut out for either academics or sports but at least we live in a location where both are encouraged.

  84. NJT says:

    #63 from yesterday:

    “Also, another view from the seller’s (bank’s) perspective on your specific situation looking at the dates.

    Banks are massive regulated bureaucracies with multiple redundant layers.

    In April the asset changed from a non-performing loan to REO. File moves from a workout group to a new group. Different individuals in each group. Counsel likely changes. Summertime in a part of the bank where people go to retire. My guess, the new guy may not have even cracked the file until recently. And he has 200 more exactly the same on his desk he’s responsible for that are months and years older. Good luck.”.

    Makes sense as I’ve worked at Fortune 100 companies and lived the GLACIAL processes. Should have thought about that. Also, in my former town there were properties that sat vacant for years…but without squatters (some locals would have not allowed it). – Place was still about, oh, I’d say 15% ‘redneck’ with ancestors settling there before the Revolution (one family had a deed from King George III). You can guess what group most of the Police came from (until very recently).

    Guess I’ll have to do some walking by the joint and pretend I’m talking on my cell phone while taking pictures of an illegal transaction occurring and pass them along anonymously to the Police.

    These transient WT and what they are doing REALLY bothers me and, I want to buy that property! ;). Got potential tenants (commercial, lined up).

    *Local mothers (my wife is friends with many) tell their kids “DON’T go down that street!”. That’s unacceptable. This place is Mayberry…or was.

  85. Alex Bevan says:

    Third time is the charm? Wasn’t this a topic a few weeks ago? I’ve been involved in that job twice. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Third?

    Probably signals another top in AP. Cue hehateme.

    http://www.app.com/story/news/local/2015/08/19/condos-hotel-planned-asbury-park-eyesore/32017243/

  86. joyce says:

    74-76
    That’s another reason for having very few national laws and mandates.

  87. joyce says:

    87
    I’m not a fan of their counter stools.

  88. Essex says:

    89. I just want to quietly dissent and say that I love AP and think it’s groovy as hell.

  89. Alex Bevan says:

    92

    No problem with AP, it’s come a long way. In there at latest once a month for dinner. That project has been a clusterf for ten years though.

    2-Josh Duggar, Executive Director of The Family Research Council had a paid Ashley Madison account.

  90. Grim says:

    Love AP, spent a weekend in a townhouse last year, again this year, it’s amazing how much it has changed.

  91. Essex says:

    In other news: Breaking news out of the Black Rock Desert: Burning Man is infested with huge, biting bugs.

    The weeklong festival — which has become increasingly popular among the tech elite in recent years — hasn’t started yet. Still, horrifying photos of swarms of unidentified bugs have surfaced on Twitter over the last few days.

  92. Juice Box says:

    Essex – crabs from a leftover mattress?

  93. Libturd in the City says:

    Last?

  94. Essex says:

    I love how this works. This whole global f’ing chaos. Neat!

  95. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    Re: AM data dump

    Here are the financial institutions we searched, and how many associated email addresses we found — bearing in mind that we cannot verify the accuracy of the data:

    •Wells Fargo — @wellsfargo.com: 175
    •Bank of America — @bankofamerica.com: 76
    •Deutsche Bank — @db.com: 73
    •Citigroup — @citi.com: 51
    •Goldman Sachs — @gs.com: 45
    •PNC Bank — @pnc.com: 28
    •U.S. Bancorp — @usbank.com: 15
    •Bank of New York Mellon — @bnymellon.com: 14
    •J.P. Morgan Chase — @jpmchase.com: 9
    •Capital One — @capitalone.com: 4

  96. Libturd in the City says:

    I can only imagine how dumb one must be to register their AM account to their work address. Then again, the potential future president used a mom & pop IT outfit (well they did make a nice campaign contribution) to install a private email server in her bathroom where she most likely sent classified or at the minimum, information related from her high level government job.

    I bet Bill has an AM account!

  97. Juice Box says:

    What kind of moron uses their work account or .gov or .mil account?

    “15,000 of the e-mail addresses are hosted by US government and military servers using the .gov and .mil top-level domains.”

    Also from what I read Ashley never bothered to validate the email or ID, and there have been lots of fake data dumps.

    http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/was-the-ashley-madison-database-leaked/

  98. Juice Box says:

    re # 100- It is not just Hillary. Her aides sent her classified info to Hillary’s personal account. Huma Anthony Weiner’s wife etc.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/251526-clinton-emails-that-sparked-intelligence-concerns-identified

    At a bare minimum they all should lose their security clearances, however NO charges will be filed and nothing will happen.

    The new boss is the same as the old boss.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMD_W_r3Fg

  99. HeHateMe says:

    Detach One Family Ranch With Three Bedrooms, Living-Room, Formal Dining-Room, Full-Bath And The Back Door Leading To The Back Yard.

    Love how realtors write such great info

  100. Libturd in the City says:

    “The Back Door Leading To The Back Yard.”

    Phew…was worried it wouldn’t.

  101. Fabius Maximus says:

    I see the AM dump as a calculated release to minimize damage. Triggering a few prenups or C level execs resigning to spend more time with their families is better than the potential damage from blackmail. At the end of the day, the release is the same as sending the wife a picture of hubby and the au pair.

    Reminds me a lot of Elliot Spitzer.

  102. Ben says:

    I can only imagine how dumb one must be to register their AM account to their work address. Then again, the potential future president used a mom & pop IT outfit (well they did make a nice campaign contribution) to install a private email server in her bathroom where she most likely sent classified or at the minimum, information related from her high level government job.

    I bet Bill has an AM account!

    My high school principal who was the super at Wall for like 15 years just went to jail. Among many charges, he faked having never taken a sick day. Meanwhile, he owned a home in Florida and was there instead of being at work in New Jersey on a regular basis. Anyway, all of his plane ticket orders were through his district email. It was so easy to bust him on that charge.

  103. Ben says:

    haha, I didn’t really know the guy all that well even though he was the principal at the school. But I got all the dirt from some teachers that left shortly after I graduated. This guy destroyed that entire district installing cronies at every level of admin.

  104. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    No vacation or sick days? Just being greedy. Should have clocked a week’s worth at least a year.

    In fact, I would immediately pull records and see who on average has taken less than 5 days of vacation/sick days a year.

    I think I recall the way around this is to go into the office and then leave an hour later and you don’t have that count against your days.

  105. homeboken says:

    108/109 – I understand that not having any sick days would raise a flag, but how many teachers really take vacation days? Aren’t the school holidays/winter break/spring break/summer break considered vacation time?

    I am naive to this – I assumed that there was no such thing as paid vacation for a teacher.

  106. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    Hmmmm what could go wrong here?

    Alcohol, food to be sold at Volusia County gun range

    DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. –
    In a major reversal, the Daytona Beach City Commission pushed through a gun range, restaurant and bar that once worried city planners.

    Gun range hopes to sell alcohol

    “To the critics I say, you’re right. I’m not trying to mix the two. I’m trying to give you a nice meal before you go home. If you choose to have an alcoholic beverage and go home, that’s on you. It’s no different than them leaving here and going to Outback,” owner Ron Perkinson said.

    Volusia Top Gun will have a restaurant and gun range, separated by a retail space. And now, they’ll also sell alcohol.

    Initially, the planning board balked at the idea of selling booze where there’s a firing range.

    “I didn’t think it was that big of a deal because I knew how safe it was,” Perkinson said. “When it got shot down, I realized I needed to bring more to the table to show them how this business runs.”

    And Wednesday night, Perkinson reassured city commissioners with a few safety rules:
    •A computer system will track who has been drinking.
    •If you drink, you can’t shoot for the rest of the day.
    •If anyone in your group drinks, none can shoot.

    “I firmly believe it will be safer than any restaurant in Florida,” Perkinson said.

  107. Ben says:

    I understand that not having any sick days would raise a flag, but how many teachers really take vacation days? Aren’t the school holidays/winter break/spring break/summer break considered vacation time?

    Some do, some don’t. As a teacher, the max sick days in a year were 3. After six years of employment, I think I had 80 leftover. I’ve seen others take 10 a year. I wouldn’t ever fault them though. The kids get you sick nonstop so it is justified. Because of the summer, teachers don’t have vacation days and obviously, would never need them.

    The thing is, as a superintendent, its entirely different. He was a 12 month employee and most supers get 10 sick days plus 2.5 weeks vacation. He’s still supposed to be at work during spring or winter break. He was so brazen, he tried to submit that he never missed a single day during his entire employment. The reality was, he was in Florida one or two weeks at a time and no where to be seen. He essentially was a no show employee half of the time. If he ever recorded them, he would have used all his sick days. Instead, he got like a 400 or 500k payout from the board.

    The board of ed enabled him…either they were clueless pushovers or just as corrupt. They even bought him a Denali on the school account to commute from Point Pleasant to Wall (a 13 minute drive at most). Instead, he would routinely drive it down to Florida.

  108. joyce says:

    I’m trying to recall another story a few years ago where a town (maybe Dover?) was in the news for buying a car for someone appointed to it’s newly created position of Emergency Coordinator or something. And the guy lived like 80 miles away from Dover; was a retired double-dipping cop as well.

  109. joyce says:

    Dover has/had a Police Chief, OEM Manager, and Safety Director.

    (clap, clap)

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