Can AC be saved?

From the Star Ledger:

This N.J. area now ranks 5th in U.S. for vacant houses

While the future of the ailing resort shore city rests in the hands of Trenton lawmakers, the local residential real estate is reeling.

The Atlantic City area vacancy rate is now among the top-five metropolitan statistical markets in the nation — a list led by the struggling cities of Flint, Mich., and Detroit — according to the California-based housing firm RealtyTrac.

The number of vacant homes in the local market, which includes the town of Hammonton, has reached 3.7 percent of its roughly 112,000 residential properties, or 4,191, in the first quarter of this year.

Nationally, vacancy rates have dropped by .2 percent since RealtyTrac’s September analysis of the market when 1.5 million properties were unoccupied. The February report shows that out of 85 million residential properties in the country, 1.3 million are currently vacant.

The vacancy rate in the Atlantic City metro area trails only four other metropolitan areas with more than 100,000 homes:

1. Flint, Michigan with 7.5 percent or 11,605 vacant houses
2. Detroit with 5.3 percent or 8,119
3. Youngstown, Ohio, with 4.4 percent or 6,979
4. Beaumont, Texas with 3.8 percent or 4,695
5. Atlantic City, New Jersey with 3.7 percent or 4,191

According to the analysis, 17 percent of the vacant properties in the Atlantic City metro area are underwater, which means the home loan is higher than the market-price of the property, in an area where in 2015 the foreclosure rate was more than four-times the national average.

Statewide last year, the foreclosure rate was the highest in the county as the national number of distressed properties has dipped to a nine-year low, according to a report in January.

New Jersey also saw one of the largest increases in “zombie” foreclosures — properties abandoned by the owner but not yet in bank’s possession — up 49 percent from a year ago.

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102 Responses to Can AC be saved?

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. Essex says:

    mornin mike’

  3. Got that good old 2008-09 feeling again. Gather up your ingots, kids.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMYSYU3b9jY

  4. yome says:

    Are second homes counted as vacant homes?

    In order to make the vacation home category consistent over the decades, “seasonal”, “held for occasional use”, and “for migrant workers” are combined.  The “occasional use” category was not used prior to the 1960 census, which could partly explain a surge in vacation housing in 1960.  It is also true that the number of units recorded for this first-time classification in 1960 was very small.  Counts of seasonal and occasional use vacant units are separately provided from 1960 to 1980, but they were combined beginning in 1990 because evidence indicated enumerators had great difficulty determining the difference.

    https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/housing/census/historic/vacation.html

  5. grim says:

    No, a vacation home or seasonal rentals are not by any means considered vacant.

    Occupancy and Vacancy are two different things. Occupancy refers to people, Vacancy refers to both people AND things. A vacant property is one that contains no inhabitant or any of the furniture or other items that would be necessary for someone to occupy the property.

  6. Leave No Billionaire Behind (the good one) says:

    I take a cold morning in NJ than a hot night in Somalia. High minimum wage and all. anytime

  7. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Wonder what the Shanghai markets going to do when they return from the week off to celebrate the lunar new year? I’m going out a bit on the limb here, but if I had any dry powder left (which I don’t), I would be getting into the US indexes right about now. Yes, you can’t nail the bottom, but I have a feeling that we are pretty close.

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m with you, great opportunity to buy US indexes.

    Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:
    February 12, 2016 at 8:51 am
    Wonder what the Shanghai markets going to do when they return from the week off to celebrate the lunar new year? I’m going out a bit on the limb here, but if I had any dry powder left (which I don’t), I would be getting into the US indexes right about now. Yes, you can’t nail the bottom, but I have a feeling that we are pretty close.

  9. Ottoman says:

    Somalia, lol. That’s where Ayn Rand made her fortune as a railroad magnate IIRC. You know, because she was a plucky go getter.

  10. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Otto, Hillary aught to save that pant suit she wore to the debate last night. The color and style will most likely match the jumpsuits they’ll give her in the federal pen.

  11. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    Need a referral for a mortgage broker in South Jersey. Our paralegal was using someone who she felt was shaky and now wants to look elsewhere. I’ve been out of this market so long, I know no one in NJ anymore, and certainly not in SoJersey

    If you have any names of folks you trust, email me at comradenomdeplume@gmail.com

  12. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [6] twidiot,

    “High minimum wage and all. anytime”

    Well of course you would. It’s the only way you’re gonna make that kind of money legally.

  13. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [7] lib,

    I don’t know that we are close but at this point, I am going by gut. At some point, the consumer gets spooked because his 401K got slammed. I am starting to sense some of that in some stats.

    BTW, Cramer says the bottom isn’t in for banks. Using my CCI (Cramer Contrarian Indicator) metric, I say it is time to buy banks.

  14. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [13] redux

    Seems I am not the only person who zigs when Cramer zags:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqgb44NNgtg

  15. Ragnar says:

    Actually, Ayn Rand was a plucky immigrant go-getter. Her goal in life was to be an author, not a railroad magnate, and in that goal she spectacularly succeeded, writing two best-selling novels that remain in print and active discussion more than 50 years after publication. She, (like Nabokov) fled communist tyranny in Russia, came to America, and went on to went on to write best-selling novels in a second language that went on to be made into popular movies, and made a lasting mark on American culture. In Ayn Rand’s case, she helped modestly turn the tide, at least for a while, away from statist-collectivist policies, and offered a novel approach to philosophy accessible to the common man, leading to hissy fits and derision from ivory tower, American-hating philosophers of her day. This of course is why the statist non-thinkers like Otto, Anon, et. al. despise her so viscerally and constantly make ad-hominem attacks on a philosopher whose ideas they are incapable of answering honestly.

    The Academy Award nominated documentary “Ayn Rand: A Sense of Life” chronicled her life and work, inspiring many, even those who are not particularly interested in her philosophy.

    What have you accomplished in your life, besides smearing feces on other people’s accomplishments?

  16. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Nom…club is contemplating a bank at our meeting next Wednesday. Signature Bank. Do your own research though.

  17. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    No one follows Cramer except for fools.

  18. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Then again, lots of Hillary endorsements have come from people dumb enough to invest with Madoff.

  19. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    Shiny is looking good right about now.

    Negative Interest Rate Policies May Be Part of the Problem

    Central banks around the world are developing a newfound fondness for experimenting with negative interest rate policy (NIRP) despite unknown consequences and what appears to be a chilling effect on financial markets.

    After initially rejecting the idea given the uncertainties and potential for collateral damage, the European Central Bank in 2014 and the Bank of Japan last month joined the central banks of Denmark, Sweden and Switzerland in negative territory. Now it seems the Fed may be warming to the idea, having gone beyond supportive innuendo to subtle preparation for potentially engaging in NIRP. (One example: The Fed’s 2016 scenarios for bank stress tests, released in late January, included as part of the “severely adverse scenario” the potential for short-term Treasury rates to fall to negative 50 basis points.)

    https://www.pimco.com/insights/viewpoints/viewpoints/negative-interest-rate-policies-may-be-part-of-the-problem

  20. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Shiny was looking a lot better at 1060. Market goes down, gold goes up. What you gonna do when market goes back up?

  21. D-FENS says:

    Countless security companies operate businesses in Somalia…temporarily filling a void left by the former government in 1991.

    The US embassy to Somali embassy has reopened.

    Recently one of the largest refineries in East Africa was built in Somalia.

    The fishing industry has re-surged.

    Somali stock exchange started trading last September.

    Mastercard announced an agreement with a Somali Bank in June of 2015 saying they will begin issuing cards in Somalia.

    Also…oil: ” “Intelligence collected by Strategic Intelligence shows Somalia’s Puntland province has 10 billion barrels of oil reserves, making it one of the top 20 countries holding oil,” it added.

    Further, the brief says that a company that drilled wells in Puntland (a semi-autonomous state in north-eastern Somalia) estimates 4 billion barrels – worth about $500 billion in today’s prices – in its two discoveries in Somalia.

    If drilled, it added, Somali oil would beat countries like Nigeria and Kuwait, to make the Horn of Africa state the 7th largest producer in the world.”

    Headwinds include poor international image, Al Shabab rebels, and piracy….although both have subsided recently.

  22. yome says:

    Ali Shamkhani: Iranian Official Claims Republicans Asked Release of 4 American Prisoners Be Delayed

    Shamkhani said at a rally that U.S. Republican officials asked that the recent release of American prisoners be delayed until after the upcoming presidential election, Tasnim News Agency reported.

  23. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    What about the Somali pirate?

  24. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    pirates?

  25. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Is anyone besides me working today?

  26. Essex says:

    24. i ‘m the captain meow….

  27. grim says:

    Yarr I’m a little bit jealous.

  28. Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:

    [17]. Lib

    Cramer doesn’t even follow Cramer. He has flipped so often in the past six months, he earned a spot on the 2016 US Men’s Gymnastic squad for Rio

  29. Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:

    [27] sx

    No, if all my HS friends are to be believed I’M the Captain.

    (Old HS nickname. Had nothing to do with sports either)

  30. Essex says:

    TRENTON — More than two million people left New Jersey between 2005 and 2014, taking billions of dollars in income and economic activity with them, according to a state business group that blames high taxes for the exodus.

    The Business and Industry Association’s new report said so-called outmigration over a 10-year span cost the state $18 billion in net adjusted gross income, 75,000 jobs, $11.4 billion in economic activity, $4.2 billion in labor income and $8.4 billion in household spending.

    “This outmigration of New Jersey residents has had a substantial and continuing negative impact on the state’s economy,” the report said. “When New Jerseyans leave the state they not only take their income with them, but they take income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes and purchasing power with them as well.”

    New Jerseyans most often move to Pennsylvania, New York, Florida, California and North Carolina, though Pennsylvania is traditionally the most popular destination.

  31. Captain Nom Deplume of the Adventure Men. says:

    One of our drinking games from my days as the Captain was to try to get the driver as sh/tfaced as possible if he had a hot car. Object was to get him to relinquish the keys. Never worked. Surprised we aren’t dead

  32. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    If water companies know that there is lead, weird occurrences (fish with multiple sex organs), and other crap in the water that may (or may not) be harmful, what is their responsibility to inform the public? Or is it up to the public to test their own water and discover it on their own?

    Not related to the Flint, MI water situation but I see a parallelism in that some entity (church or City Hall) that people commonly assign implied governance, have an unofficial policy that implies that responsibility of your own well being is in your hands. Which I agree, you need to be responsible for yourself but that doesn’t negate their responsibility either.

    Vatican Tells New Bishops They Don’t Have to Report Sexual Abuse to Police

    The Vatican has told new Catholic bishops that they have no obligation to report clerical child abuse, according to reports.

    During a presentation for newly appointed bishops, French Monsignor Tony Anatrella said they don’t have a duty to report abuse because it should be the responsibility of victims and their families to go to the police.

    http://www.newsweek.com/vatican-sex-abuse-bishops-425509?piano_t=1

  33. Fast Eddie says:

    Lib,

    I’m working today – busier than ever. Someone needs to pay for the Clinton/Sanders supporters.

  34. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So how exactly are these people taking property taxes with them?

    “This outmigration of New Jersey residents has had a substantial and continuing negative impact on the state’s economy,” the report said. “When New Jerseyans leave the state they not only take their income with them, but they take income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes and purchasing power with them as well.”

  35. D-FENS says:

    A United Nations report and several news sources have suggested that the piracy off the coast of Somalia was caused in part by illegal fishing by foreign boats taking advantage of the war, which resulted in lost fishing income to local communities.[5][6][7] According to the German Institute for Economic Research and the US House Armed Services Committee, the dumping of toxic waste in Somali waters by foreign vessels also severely constrained the ability of local fishermen to earn a living. In response, the fishermen began forming armed groups to stop the foreign ships. They eventually turned to hijacking commercial vessels for ransom as an alternate source of income.[8][9] In 2009, a survey by WardheerNews found that approximately 70 percent of the local coastal communities at the time “strongly support[ed] the piracy as a form of national defense of the country’s territorial waters”. The pirates also believed that they were protecting their fishing grounds and exacting justice and compensation for the marine resources stolen.[10][11][12] In the absence of an effective national coast guard following the outbreak of the civil war and the subsequent disintegration of the Armed Forces, local fishermen formed organized groups in order to protect their waters. This is reflected in the names adopted by some of the pirate networks, such as the National Volunteer Coast Guard, which are testimony to the pirates’ initial motivations.[13] However, as piracy became substantially more lucrative, other reports have speculated that financial gain became the primary motive for the pirates.[14][15][16]

  36. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Thanks for your efforts Gary! Sander’s appreciates it. Hillary was probably paid by your employer.

  37. D-FENS says:

    More boats pointing their guns at fishing vessels…demanding permit fees….

    http://wow.uscgaux.info/content.php?unit=114-06-08&category=whats-news

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Gotta respect these individuals. In the U.S., when corporate powers take away people’s jobs, they do nothing about it. At least in Somalia they have the right idea. Fight for your rights, or they will just walk all over you.

    D-FENS says:
    February 12, 2016 at 12:44 pm
    A United Nations report and several news sources have suggested that the piracy off the coast of Somalia was caused in part by illegal fishing by foreign boats taking advantage of the war, which resulted in lost fishing income to local communities.[5][6][7] According to the German Institute for Economic Research and the US House Armed Services Committee, the dumping of toxic waste in Somali waters by foreign vessels also severely constrained the ability of local fishermen to earn a living. In response, the fishermen began forming armed groups to stop the foreign ships. They eventually turned to hijacking commercial vessels for ransom as an alternate source of income.[8][9] In 2009, a survey by WardheerNews found that approximately 70 percent of the local coastal communities at the time “strongly support[ed] the piracy as a form of national defense of the country’s territorial waters”. The pirates also believed that they were protecting their fishing grounds and exacting justice and compensation for the marine resources stolen.[10][11][12] In the absence of an effective national coast guard following the outbreak of the civil war and the subsequent disintegration of the Armed Forces, local fishermen formed organized groups in order to protect their waters. This is reflected in the names adopted by some of the pirate networks, such as the National Volunteer Coast Guard, which are testimony to the pirates’ initial motivations.[13] However, as piracy became substantially more lucrative, other reports have speculated that financial gain became the primary motive for the pirates.[14][15][16]

  39. The Great Pumpkin says:

    40- I’m still amazed that we live in a world where natural resources like water can be “owned”. Can’t wait till they start charging for the air we breath.

  40. Essex says:

    ….it takes a village…

  41. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Just had my free Chipotle burrito. You could definitely taste the difference with their pico de gallo. Everything else tasted the same. Line was out the door. I, deftly ordered ahead and cut the line.

  42. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Will report on the after affects tomorrow.

  43. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Interesting. What I already know, when it comes to investing, human psychology is the biggest thing to pay attention to. Not the only thing to pay attention to, but def the most important, imo.

    “A questionnaire survey looked at home buyers in May 1988 in two “boom” cities currently experiencing rapid price increases (Anaheim and San Francisco), a “post-boom” city whose home prices are stable or falling a couple years after rapid price increase (Boston) and a “control” city where home prices had been very stable (Milwaukee). Home buyers in the boom cities had much higher expectations for future price increases, and were more influenced by investment motives. The interpretations that people place on the boom are not usually related to any concrete news event; there are instead oft-repeated cliches about home prices. This suggests that sudden real estate booms have, at least in part, a social, rather than rational or economic, basis. There is evidence for excess demand in boom markets and excess supply in the post-boom market; there appear to be various reasons for this: notions of fairness, intrinsic worth, popular theories about prices, coordination problems, and simple mistakes.”

    http://www.nber.org/papers/w2748

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Mr. Slick. You are the man.

    Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:
    February 12, 2016 at 1:41 pm
    Just had my free Chipotle burrito. You could definitely taste the difference with their pico de gallo. Everything else tasted the same. Line was out the door. I, deftly ordered ahead and cut the line.

  45. Ragnar says:

    pico de gallo was better or worse tasting?

  46. D-FENS says:

    Lib, you will be feeling the after affects in about an hour….

  47. Ragnar says:

    lib,
    You’re going to need some Chipotleway to get the blood stains out of your underwear
    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/251865/billy-mays-here

  48. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Way worse. Completely bland. Like from a jar.

  49. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Oil up 12% today? Did I call the bottom?

  50. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Peak oil in the 7o’s, huh?

    “U.S. Is Running Out of Room for Oil

    The thousands of attendees seeking reasons for optimism didn’t find them at the annual International Petroleum Week. Instead they were greeted by a cacophony of voices from some of the largest oil producers, refiners and traders delivering the same message: There are few reasons for optimism. The world is awash with oil. The market is overwhelmingly bearish.

    No Hope

    Producers are bracing for a tough year. Prices will stay low for up to a decade as Chinese economic growth slows and the U.S. shale industry acts as a cap on any rally, according to Ian Taylor, chief executive officer of Vitol Group, the world’s largest independent oil trader. Even refiners, whose profits have held up better than expected, are seeing a worsening outlook.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-12/the-oil-industry-got-together-and-agreed-things-may-never-get-better

  51. The Great Pumpkin says:

    52-

    ““The oil industry is facing a crisis,” said Patrick Pouyanne, CEO of Total SA, Europe’s biggest refiner. BP Plc boss Bob Dudley described himself as “very bearish” and joked that the surplus is so extreme that people will soon be filling swimming pools with crude.
    As the world runs out of places to store oil, “I wouldn’t be surprised if this market goes into the teens,” said Jeff Currie, head of commodities research at Goldman Sachs Group Inc.”

  52. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Article for clot.

    “Gold has rallied because:
    Janet Yellen is freaking out a little.
    Everyone else is freaking out a lot.
    It’s almost Valentine’s Day.
    Two black holes merged, proving Einstein was right roughly 1.3 billion years before the genius was even born.
    Spoiler: Reason no. 4, while a cool story, is largely spurious, its inclusion intended to show only that definitive explanations of gold’s movements are a bit like gravitational waves: You know they exist, but they are fiendishly hard to pin down.
    THE PRECIOUS

    Defy your romantic instincts and you might think reason no. 3 is also mere flippancy. But it actually reflects this trend in several recent years:”

    “Two things should give gold bulls pause, though.One concerns who is buying gold. The latest report from the World Gold Council shows that, since late 2015, the most enthusiastic buyers have been investors and central banks — the most volatile sources of demand. While demand overall increased by 4 percent in the fourth quarter, year over year, in the jewelry and technology sectors — two thirds of the market — it actually fell.In addition, half of gold demand is accounted for by consumers in India, China and the Middle East. Recession fears might buoy demand for gold as an economic hedge, but don’t forget those fears center mostly on commodity producers and the developed world, which could easily undercut jewelry sales there.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2016-02-12/gold-prices-defy-gravity-but-for-how-long

  53. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Millennials and their older co-workers have reason to be optimistic about their job prospects. In December, job openings hit their second-highest level since the BLS began recording these figures in 2000 (July set the record, with 5.67 million openings). Employers hired more people in December than at any point since November 2006. In short, it’s a good time to be a restless worker.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-12/have-millennials-made-quitting-more-common

  54. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Agree with this guy in the comments section(obviously I have stated numerous times that it’s wrong to blame the workers). Christie really messed up this state by dividing it.

    “We left due to high taxes, a declining education system, failing government, crumbling infrastructure and the persistent vilification of public employees as the root cause of all that ails New Jersey’s budget woes.

    And based on my interaction with vast others who have emigrated from the garden state we’re not alone in feeling this way.

    I loved my home state, and will always have a place in my heart for NJ, but it became fiscally and socially inappropriate for us to stay.”

    “Then you are a fibber, vilification of public employees is the reason you left? LOL!!!”

    “Incorrect, sir. The notion a governor could spearhead a campaign against his/her own constituents, rallying a populous against the PEOPLE performing the work, instead of the policies they are benefited by was abhorrent and disgusting. Not that the same bull$h1t doesn’t happen elsewhere. However, watching my friends and family be criticized for holding noble and benevolent professions in education and public safety & then, as a group, dragged out and flogged because the policies of the past were suddenly deemed “unfair” by the sheeple clinging to Christies’ chubby teat, was the coffin nail in our decision.

    NJ has always had an abrasive, in-your-face culture; but Christie’s blowhard, bullying a$$hattery was a pitiful display of government flexing nuts when it had none.”

  55. D-FENS says:

    Ever wonder what happened to the clinton email server?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FECIYlo3KRY

    Now that’s a campaign smear ad done right.

  56. D-FENS says:

    The real scene from the movie office space….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This list says it all. I’m seeing hundreds of towns with affordable taxes. Of course everyone just focuses on the exclusive towns in the top 25%. Moral of the story, don’t live in a rich town if you don’t want to pay high taxes.

    Tavistock $30,723
    Millburn $22,735
    Loch Arbour $21,663
    Alpine $20,888
    Mountain Lakes $19,727
    Tenafly $19,254
    Rumson $18,960
    Essex Fells $18,719
    Glen Ridge $18,569
    Mendham Township $18,434
    Demarest $17,937
    Montclair $17,779
    Princeton $17,699
    South Orange $17,155
    Summit $17,114
    Upper Saddle River $17,112
    Haworth $16,940
    Ridgewood $16,798
    Saddle River $16,670
    Franklin Lakes $16,635
    Westfield $15,913
    Mantoloking $15,788
    Old Tappan $15,765
    Deal $15,511
    Cresskill $15,272
    Rockleigh $15,245
    Chester Township $15,239
    Woodcliff Lake $15,193
    Glen Rock $15,157
    North Caldwell $15,077
    Ho-Ho-Kus $15,045
    Far Hills $14,918
    Livingston $14,879
    Bernardsville $14,810
    Closter $14,715
    Mendham Borough $14,577
    Allendale $14,551
    Colts Neck $14,519
    Montgomery Township 14276
    Harrington Park $14,263
    Maplewood $14,251
    Warren Township 14135
    Fair Haven $14,012
    Watchung $13,979
    River Vale $13,894
    Haddonfield $13,830
    Oradell Borough $13,796
    Kinnelon $13,706
    Peapack-Gladstone $13,551
    Chatham Township $13,547
    Harding Township $13,485
    West Windsor Township 13466
    New Providence $13,364
    Wyckoff $13,280
    Tewksbury Township $13,251
    Holmdel $13,093
    West Orange $12,895
    Pennington $12,892
    Allenhurst $12,825
    Little Silver $12,756
    Bay Head $12,749
    Chatham Borough $12,663
    Scotch Plains $12,562
    Chester Borough $12,537
    Norwood $12,524
    Hopewell Township 12439
    Sea Girt $12,437
    Madison $12,338
    River Edge $12,335
    Hillsdale $12,321
    Berkeley Heights $12,195
    Weehawken $12,164
    Randolph $12,155
    Bernards Township 12110
    Leonia $12,055
    Wayne $12,043
    Spring Lake $11,881
    Ramsey $11,829
    Englewood Cliffs $11,802
    Mountainside $11,787
    Park Ridge $11,760
    Montville $11,715
    Englewood $11,667
    Green Brook $11,524
    Boonton $11,523
    Teaneck $11,513
    Cranbury $11,446
    Sparta $11,411
    Montvale $11,319
    Fanwood $11,218
    Long Hill $11,198
    Emerson $11,118
    Millstone $11,094
    Midland Park $11,020
    Moorestown $11,008
    Oakland $10,952
    Rutherford $10,951
    Upper Freehold Township $10,928
    Hopewell Borough 10917
    Caldwell $10,881
    Shrewsbury $10,803
    Verona $10,791
    Brielle $10,744
    Springfield Township $10,700
    Highland Park $10,666
    Waldwick $10,666
    Ringwood $10,607
    Harrison $10,552
    Robbinsville Township 10550
    Delaware Township $10,526
    Cranford $10,523
    Washington Township $10,517
    Marlboro Township $10,506
    Hasbrouck Heights $10,506
    North Haledon Borough $10,498
    New Milford $10,493
    Nutley Township $10,464
    Washington Township $10,426
    Green Township $10,415
    Bloomfield $10,356
    Bloomingdale Borough $10,356
    Wenonah $10,348
    Dumont $10,327
    Roseland $10,315
    Fort Lee $10,300
    Franklin Township $10,289
    Northvale $10,247
    Hawthorne $10,215
    Bethlehem Township $10,215
    Woodland Park $10,164
    Lodi Borough $10,163
    Woolwich Township $10,160
    West Caldwell $10,145
    Clinton $10,098
    Cedar Grove Township $10,089
    Chesterfield Township $10,084
    Fair Lawn $10,012
    Linwood $10,009
    Medford Township $9,986
    Prospect Park $9,984
    Bergenfield $9,981
    Morris Township $9,967
    Harvey Cedars $9,953
    Haledon $9,952
    Readington Township $9,943
    Longport $9,940
    Metuchen $9,935
    Califon Borough $9,903
    Westwood Borough $9,852
    Kearny Town $9,822
    Pompton Lakes $9,815
    Alexandria Township $9,771
    Bogota $9,735
    Clark $9,728
    Boonton $9,727
    Mount Olive Township $9,692
    Passaic $9,667
    Clinton $9,643
    Avon-by-the-Sea $9,634
    Bayonne $9,605
    Denville Township $9,583
    Plainsboro Township $9,577
    North Arlington $9,555
    Rockaway Township $9,540
    Roselle Borough $9,531
    East Brunswick $9,525
    Ridgefield Park $9,516
    Roselle Park $9,514
    Garwood Borough $9,494
    Fredon Township $9,444
    Morris Plains $9,407
    West Amwell Township $9,326
    Raritan Township $9,318
    Little Falls Township $9,309
    Clifton City $9,210
    Morristown $9,202
    Elmwood Park $9,177
    Long Beach Township $9,110
    Oceanport $9,106
    Voorhees Township $9,099
    Hillside $9,096
    Florham Park $9,081
    Elizabeth $9,073
    Totowa $9,063
    Guttenberg Town $9,058
    Franklin Township $9,042
    Somerville $9,028
    Branchburg Township 9015
    West Long Branch $9,010
    Fairfield Township $8,991
    West Milford Township $8,982
    Maywood $8,959
    Rocky Hill Borough $8,958
    Paramus $8,950
    Ocean Township $8,935
    South Harrison Township $8,925
    Wanaque $8,918
    Little Ferry $8,910
    South Brunswick $8,895
    Harrison Township $8,894
    Pine Valley $8,888
    South Hackensack $8,853
    Palisades Park $8,848
    Wood-Ridge $8,825
    Belleville $8,818
    Andover Township $8,723
    Wall Township $8,711
    Fairview $8,699
    East Amwell Township $8,669
    Hillsborough $8,655
    Interlaken Borough $8,654
    Bridgewater $8,644
    Hightstown $8,633
    Edison $8,622
    Atlantic Highlands $8,608
    Haddon Heights $8,591
    Medford Lakes $8,570
    Roxbury Township $8,527
    Middletown $8,526
    Byram Township $8,514
    Washington Township $8,512
    Milltown $8,493
    Butler $8,490
    High Bridge $8,487
    Beach Haven $8,479
    Wallington $8,475
    Freehold Township $8,470
    Greenwich Township $8,448
    East Orange $8,442
    Lyndhurst $8,428
    Lafayette Township $8,419
    Rockaway Borough $8,416
    Linden City $8,407
    Ridgefield $8,406
    Union Township $8,402
    Frenchtown $8,390
    Millstone 8390
    Hackensack $8,373
    Kenilworth $8,339
    Parsippany-Troy Hills $8,333
    Plainfield $8,317
    Rahway $8,313
    Manasquan $8,273
    North Brunswick $8,268
    East Greenwich Township $8,253
    Shamong $8,234
    Matawan $8,189
    Allentown $8,170
    Lincoln Park $8,166
    Mahwah $8,154
    North Plainfield 8126
    Long Branch $8,121
    Orange $8,120
    Union Township $8,090
    Manalapan $8,086
    Point Pleasant Beach $8,085
    Lebanon Township $8,069
    Riverton Borough $8,062
    East Windsor $8,032
    Saddle Brook $8,024
    Cliffside Park $8,020
    Cherry Hill $8,016
    Laurel Springs Borough $7,992
    Frelinghuysen Township $7,968
    Pequannock Township $7,949
    Barrington Borough $7,923
    Paterson $7,912
    Moonachie $7,907
    Kingwood Township $7,866
    Edgewater Borough $7,859
    Springfield Township $7,841
    Rochelle Park $7,832
    Dunellen Borough $7,814
    Monmouth Beach $7,805
    South Bound Brook 7795
    Hackettstown Town $7,780
    Hardwick Township $7,774
    East Hanover Township $7,755
    Hoboken $7,751
    Ventnor $7,744
    Bound Brook $7,730
    Margate $7,675
    Flemington $7,669
    Newton $7,640
    Gibbsboro $7,639
    Haddon Township $7,618
    Middlesex $7,617
    Stockton $7,611
    Jefferson Township $7,596
    Lawrence Township 7576
    Union City $7,561
    Roosevelt $7,561
    Hope Township $7,548
    Milford $7,540
    Ogdensburg Borough $7,532
    Spotswood Borough $7,532
    Hampton Borough $7,514
    Stone Harbor $7,504
    Seaside Park $7,474
    Collingswood $7,449
    Garfield $7,424
    Woodbridge $7,423
    Hazlet $7,422
    Mansfield Township $7,421
    Holland Township $7,406
    Red Bank $7,404
    Stanhope $7,381
    Howell $7,325
    Pilesgrove Township $7,309
    Mount Arlington $7,309
    Mansfield Township $7,285
    Eatontown $7,278
    Tabernacle Township $7,278
    Point Pleasant Boro $7,269
    Jamesburg $7,257
    Bordentown $7,255
    Wharton $7,247
    Cinnaminson $7,246
    Delran $7,238
    South Amboy $7,221
    Independence Township $7,207
    Woodbury Heights $7,197
    Bradley Beach Borough $7,195
    North Bergen Township $7,189
    West New York $7,189
    Netcong $7,176
    Raritan 7164
    Avalon $7,126
    Merchantville $7,124
    Northfield City $7,113
    Irvington $7,113
    Piscataway $7,102
    Washington Township $7,045
    Evesham Township $7,036
    Franklin Township $7,030
    Berlin Borough $7,023
    Jackson Township $7,005
    Monroe Township $7,003
    Old Bridge Township $6,984
    Perth Amboy $6,969
    Mine Hill $6,952
    East Newark $6,950
    Hopatcong $6,950
    South Plainfield $6,944
    Manville $6,942
    Knowlton Township $6,935
    Hanover Township $6,932
    Oaklyn $6,914
    Island Heights $6,892
    Aberdeen $6,879
    Lambertville $6,876
    Sayreville $6,876
    Sea Bright $6,867
    Blairstown $6,847
    Carlstadt $6,844
    Lumberton Township $6,821
    Monroe Township $6,810
    Frankford Township $6,785
    Jersey City $6,772
    Wantage $6,756
    Pitman $6,747
    Bordentown $6,728
    New Brunswick $6,710
    Liberty $6,647
    Washington $6,646
    Audubon $6,645
    Andover $6,643
    Swedesboro Borough $6,630
    Elk Township $6,617
    Belvidere $6,616
    Surf City $6,616
    Lake Como $6,610
    Eastampton Township $6,608
    Allamuchy Township $6,598
    Belmar $6,592
    Woodstown Borough $6,577
    Hi-nella $6,563
    Waterford Township $6,548
    Burlington Township $6,545
    Oxford Township $6,518
    North Hanover Township $6,511
    Barnegat Light $6,511
    Ewing Township 6500
    Mantua Township $6,475
    Tinton Falls $6,462
    Carteret $6,446
    Lopatcong Township $6,445
    Pohatcong Township $6,407
    Brigantine $6,406
    Englishtown $6,398
    Gloucester Township $6,367
    Glassboro $6,361
    Highlands $6,359
    Lavallette $6,352
    Freehold Borough $6,346
    Stratford $6,340
    Secaucus $6,320
    Plumsted Township $6,280
    Lakewood $6,266
    Keyport $6,249
    East Rutherford $6,235
    Hainesport $6,235
    Woodbury $6,232
    Spring Lake Heights $6,228
    Franklin $6,228
    Neptune City $6,178
    Mount Ephraim $6,166
    Egg Harbor Township $6,166
    Stillwater Township $6,137
    Mount Laurel Township $6,103
    Brick $6,079
    Berlin Township $6,074
    Hardyston Township $6,069
    Barnegat $6,042
    Bellmawr $6,028
    Greenwich Township $6,017
    Pine Hill Borough $5,991
    Atlantic City $5,988
    Bloomsbury $5,988
    Egg Harbor City $5,981
    Hampton Township $5,977
    South River $5,973
    Somers Point $5,970
    Neptune Township $5,967
    Bedminster 5960
    West Deptford $5,939
    Dover $5,866
    Lebanon $5,862
    Hamilton Township 5829
    Port Republic $5,814
    Eagleswood Township $5,798
    Ship Bottom $5,770
    Newark $5,764
    Pine Beach $5,744
    Vernon Township $5,734
    Newfield $5,733
    Willingboro $5,731
    Union Beach $5,721
    Franklin Township $5,705
    Magnolia $5,704
    Farmingdale $5,684
    Stafford Township $5,681
    Winslow Township $5,674
    Pittsgrove Township $5,662
    Helmetta $5,646
    Hamburg $5,627
    Toms River $5,620
    Runnemede Borough $5,593
    Clayton Borough $5,554
    Upper Pittsgrove Township $5,533
    Delanco Township $5,528
    Somerdale Borough $5,527
    Alpha Borough $5,527
    National Park Borough $5,515
    Cape May $5,510
    White Township $5,471
    Pennsville Township $5,464
    Beverly City $5,428
    Glen Gardner Borough $5,425
    Absecon $5,407
    Sussex Borough $5,398
    Palmyra Borough $5,393
    Riverdale Borough $5,365
    Westampton Township $5,336
    Sandyston Township $5,333
    Lacey Township $5,332
    Lawnside Borough $5,324
    Hammonton Township $5,319
    Alloway Township $5,293
    Ocean City City $5,253
    Woodland Township $5,233
    Chesilhurst Borough $5,216
    Westville Borough $5,177
    Maple Shade Township $5,134
    Harmony Township $5,126
    Southampton Township $5,118
    Galloway Township $5,092
    Riverside $5,060
    Deptford $5,052
    Edgewater Park $5,050
    Florence Township $5,038
    West Cape May $5,036
    Asbury Park $5,022
    Upper Deerfield Township $5,022
    Stow Creek Township $5,021
    Buena Vista Township $5,010
    Fieldsboro Borough $4,997
    Mannington Township $4,953
    Branchville Borough $4,933
    Clementon Borough $4,922
    Ocean Township $4,920
    Pennsauken Township $4,884
    Bass River Township $4,882
    Buena Borough $4,879
    Mullica Township $4,873
    Seaside Heights $4,867
    Tuckerton $4,862
    Woodlynne Borough $4,844
    Lakehurst $4,811
    Greenwich Township $4,802
    Keansburg $4,787
    Ocean Gate $4,773
    Shrewsbury Township $4,727
    Burlington City $4,720
    Elmer Borough $4,694
    Beachwood $4,676
    Wildwood $4,672
    Hopewell Township $4,667
    Hamilton Township $4,628
    Carneys Point Township $4,607
    Oldmans Township $4,604
    Mount Holly $4,603
    Elsinboro Township $4,591
    Upper Township $4,581
    Little Egg Harbor Township $4,541
    Wildwood Crest $4,504
    South Toms River $4,491
    Deerfield Township $4,431
    Maurice River Township $4,366
    Weymouth Township $4,356
    Lindenwold Borough $4,342
    New Hanover Township $4,341
    Quinton Township $4,301
    Phillipsburg $4,272
    Estell Manor City $4,249
    Shiloh Borough $4,229
    Sea Isle City $4,196
    Brooklawn Borough $4,191
    Pleasantville City $4,165
    Victory Gardens Borough $4,133
    Logan Township $4,097
    Penns Grove Borough $4,079
    Millville City $4,049
    Lawrence Township $4,030
    Middle Township $4,011
    Berkeley Township $3,991
    West Wildwood Borough $3,979
    Gloucester City $3,955
    Vineland $3,945
    Montague Township $3,910
    Manchester Township $3,908
    Cape May Point $3,908
    Washington Township $3,882
    Wrightstown $3,855
    Paulsboro Borough $3,783
    Salem $3,725
    Fairfield Township $3,705
    Lower Township $3,699
    Folsom Borough $3,663
    Trenton City 3610
    Pemberton Township $3,596
    North Wildwood City $3,584
    Corbin City $3,468
    Winfield Township $3,427
    Pemberton Borough $3,316
    Downe Township $3,069
    Bridgeton $2,994
    Dennis Township $2,792
    Commercial Township $2,443
    Audubon Park Borough $2,192
    Teterboro Borough $1,960
    Lower Alloways Creek $1,863
    Walpack Township $1,822
    Woodbine $1,690
    Camden $1,533

    http://patch.com/new-jersey/wayne/who-pays-njs-biggest-property-tax-bills-waynes-among-them-0?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=politics%20%26%20government&utm_campaign=alert

  58. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Grim, my post went to mod. Can you release it? It’s post 59. It’s a list of nj property taxes from highest to lowest.

  59. Splat [Gold];

    Look back 20 years on gold, folks. 2010-13 ain’t but a blip on that chart.

    20 years ago Gold was $400/oz. Today is in the $1200’s. That’s 5.8% average return. SP500 showed 5.44% over the same period. That’s a hell of a roller coaster to make 0.4% extra. NASDAQ posted an avg 6.6%.

  60. Chipotle is giving away free burritos? that’s one way to get people back in the place.

  61. Ben says:

    Wow, just put that in perspective. These BLM activists have taken over events left and right. And a bunch of students willing to make noise shut them down. Seattle stood there and took it during the Bernie Sanders event. Meanwhile, a room full of Jersey kids handled them with ease. Go RU.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Killing some animals to try and push an enferior technology over a superior technology. Nice one, Edison. If you were a true man of science, you would have pushed the better technology as opposed to the tech that would make you the most money.

    “1903: Thomas Edison stages his highly publicized electrocution of an elephant in order to demonstrate the dangers of alternating current, which, if it posed any immediate danger at all, was to Edison’s own direct current.

    Edison had established direct current at the standard for electricity distribution and was living large off the patent royalties, royalties he was in no mood to lose when George Westinghouse and Nicola Tesla showed up with alternating current.

    Edison’s aggressive campaign to discredit the new current took the macabre form of a series of animal electrocutions using AC (a killing process he referred to snidely as getting “Westinghoused”). Stray dogs and cats were the most easily obtained, but he also zapped a few cattle and horses.”

    http://www.wired.com/2008/01/dayintech-0104/

  63. Ben says:

    20 years ago Gold was $400/oz. Today is in the $1200′s. That’s 5.8% average return. SP500 showed 5.44% over the same period. That’s a hell of a roller coaster to make 0.4% extra. NASDAQ posted an avg 6.6%.

    lol, and the stock market wasn’t just as big of a roller coaster? Also, this sort of analysis doesn’t quite work if you go back 15 years instead of 20. Besides, referencing indexes means little in this comparison. Someone holding stocks like GM, Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros, and god knows what else saw those drop to zero. But they get cut from the index after the fact. And how many more stocks would have dropped to zero without a bailout?

  64. The Great Pumpkin says:

    *inferior

  65. Ben says:

    Killing some animals to try and push an enferior technology over a superior technology. Nice one, Edison. If you were a true man of science, you would have pushed the better technology as opposed to the tech that would make you the most money.

    What are complaining about? The general public didn’t buy into his bullsh1t and the grid was set up with AC very rapidly. Tesla won and Edison was ultimately force out of his own company.

  66. joyce says:

    He was afraid that the superior technology was going to destroy jobs and destabilize the economy.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    February 12, 2016 at 4:10 pm
    … to try and push an enferior technology over a superior technology.

  67. joyce says:

    He thinks this is the debate club.

    Ben says:
    February 12, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    What are complaining about?

  68. Captain Nom Deplume of the Adventure Men. says:

    [63] moose

    Are you sure that was New Jersey? The only F bombs came from the protesters. I’d say the crowd went easy on them.

  69. Ragnar says:

    Good thing the free market rather than the government tends to make these decisions in the US. Otherwise we’d be stuck with a lot more non-optimal technology than we already face.
    Thanks, capitalism and liberty.

  70. Juice Box says:

    Grim is on the take!

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Too simplistic of an approach. What about all the companies that buy-out their competition, then take the technology, lock it up, and throw away the key?

    Ragnar says:
    February 12, 2016 at 4:35 pm
    Good thing the free market rather than the government tends to make these decisions in the US. Otherwise we’d be stuck with a lot more non-optimal technology than we already face.
    Thanks, capitalism and liberty.

  72. Grim says:

    I baited him into making a campaign contribution to get political favors.

    He’s on the dark side now.

  73. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wasn’t complaining. Was pointing out the character of one of America’s most celebrated inventors.

    Ben says:
    February 12, 2016 at 4:15 pm
    Killing some animals to try and push an enferior technology over a superior technology. Nice one, Edison. If you were a true man of science, you would have pushed the better technology as opposed to the tech that would make you the most money.

    What are complaining about? The general public didn’t buy into his bullsh1t and the grid was set up with AC very rapidly. Tesla won and Edison was ultimately force out of his own company.

  74. Leave No Billionaire Behind (the good one) says:

    except when it comes to women,s right to choose

    in that case Rafael Cruz govt will dictate over women,s body

    Ragnar says:
    February 12, 2016 at 4:35 pm
    Good thing the free market rather than the government tends to make these decisions in the US.

  75. Ben says:

    Wasn’t complaining. Was pointing out the character of one of America’s most celebrated inventors.

    Edison was as much of an inventor as Lori Greiner from Shark Tank is. She probably owns just as many patents as he did.

  76. Leave No Billionaire Behind (the good one) says:

    that’s not supported by anybody other that by Rands fundamentalists. there’s absolutely nobody else other than your cult who would say that. it gets published as a curiosity

    rands adoration is deviant

    Ragnar says:
    February 12, 2016 at 9:29 am

    Actually, Ayn Rand….. goal in life was to be an author, not a railroad magnate, and in that goal she spectacularly succeeded,

  77. D-FENS says:

    $2000 on a 1500 square ft house is affordable property taxes. What Michael posted is outrageous.

  78. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And why wouldn’t it be affordable? We don’t have a high income tax? You don’t have to pay a tax on your cars in your driveway like a lot of other states do. Yes, our property taxes are high, but you def don’t pay high taxes in most other areas like other states do. If that 1500sq ft home is in a nice town with a good school, how is 2000 a year not good? Even in an avg town/school, how is that a ripoff? 3000sqft house would be paying 4,000? I think you need to rethink this over.

    If nj puts the estate tax and inheritance tax on par with other states, we def will be pretty close in the amount of taxes we pay as these other states.

    D-FENS says:
    February 12, 2016 at 6:53 pm
    $2000 on a 1500 square ft house is affordable property taxes. What Michael posted is outrageous.

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Agreed. Nice comparison.

    Ben says:
    February 12, 2016 at 6:44 pm
    Wasn’t complaining. Was pointing out the character of one of America’s most celebrated inventors.

    Edison was as much of an inventor as Lori Greiner from Shark Tank is. She probably owns just as many patents as he did.

  80. The Great Pumpkin says:

    81- I thought you were being snarky, didn’t realize you were being sincere in your post.

  81. Juice Box says:

    chipole-away. South Park is de best…

    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/251865/billy-mays-here

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Small town example. 100 homes at 2000 a pop gives you 200,000. In those 100 homes you have to account for at least 20 kids (at the minimum living there). So how the hell would this town run on the joke of a budget? You are going to pave roads, pay for a school, pay a teacher, pay for a couple cops, pay for a town hall, pay for an accountant to handle the budgets, and pay for garbage collection on that kind of budget? Not in jersey. NO WAY IN HELL.

    So you can think so much of your taxes are wasted, but the reality is, it costs a lot of money to run things in jersey with how densely populated it is. Do you know how many big rig trucks use our roads due to our location? They destroy roads. You think other states are dealing with legions of big rigs transporting imports for most of the east coast on their roads? You need to be realistic, and my small breakdown of govt costs show you that 2000 dollars is a pipe dream based on the costs of nj.

    Put it this way, it costs me 16,000 a year to send my two year old to school from monday through friday. In the example above, multiply that by 20 kids. It eats up almost the entire budget, oh no, need to raise taxes. No way in hell you can maintain the services on that 200,000 budget.

  83. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You would need 3200 from each household just to maintain educational services. Never mind anything else.

  84. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s based on 16,000 a student. What happens if you have special ed students? Need to hire a new teacher add a classroom. Puff, there goes your budget. 2,000 is a pipe dream in jersey. What happens if someone sues your town? How will you cover the costs for the lawyer to defend you?

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And yes, there is a ton of waste in govt, but let’s not make it seem like eliminating all corruption will result in 50% lower property tax bills.

  86. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Jamie Dimon only had to wait a day for his big bet on JPMorgan Chase & Co. to pay off.

    The bank’s shares jumped 8.3 percent in New York trading Friday — the most since November 2011 — after the chief executive officer spent $26.6 million for 500,000 shares. Dimon’s paper gain was about $2.2 million after the price surged to $57.49. He paid from $53.13 to $53.30 apiece on Thursday.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-12/dimon-s-bold-jpmorgan-bet-makes-him-2-2-million-richer-in-a-day

  87. Juice Box says:

    Re:89 – one moment you decry the rich the next you cheer?

  88. chicagofinance says:

    Retail Commerce (clot Edition):

    A 17-year-old robber’s arm was severed in Brooklyn after he held up a 39-year-old man at gunpoint for a pair of pricey sneakers, police sources said.

    Through the app Wallapop, the pair had arranged to meet up at 1 p.m. on Friday in Canarsie.

  89. chicagofinance says:

    But when the seller showed up, asking $490 for a pair of A!r Jord^n 8 Retro sneakers, the teen crook pulled out a gun and demanded the kicks for free inside the older man’s car, police sources said.

  90. chicagofinance says:

    The 39-year-old stepped on the gas peddle, but the gunman jumped out of his car at the intersection of East 86th Street and Avenue M, sources said.

    Instead of speeding off, the seller turned his car around and drove after the teenager, crashing into him in front of a fence.

    The robber’s arm was ripped off when he was pinned against the fence.

    “I saw a kid under a car,” said Alex Saint Fleur, a bus driver who lives across the street.

    “The guy ran him over. He got out, the driver said, ‘He’s trying to rob me. He’s trying to rob me.’”

    “I saw the gun on the floor,” Fleur added. “The arm was on the floor near the gun.”

    The teen got out from under the car, he said, and ran inside a city bus.

    “Everyone is screaming, ‘Come back, come back, your arm. You’re bleeding too much,’” Fleur said.

    The crook got out of the bus and started running down Avenue M, he said, before finally collapsing in the street.

    The teen was taken to Brookdale Hospital, where he remains in serious but stable condition, law enforcement sources said.

    The 39-year-old driver will likely be arrested, according to police sources.

    On Friday afternoon, the bus was pulled over on 80th Street, blood spattered on its front entrance.

    “I was walking up the sidewalk and I heard a boom behind me,” said a postal worker who declined to give her name. “I just kept it moving. I saw somebody run on the bus with a missing arm.”

  91. joyce says:

    “The 39-year-old driver will likely be arrested, according to police sources.”

    Why? He perceived a threat and fear for his life.

  92. Libturd says:

    How could he fear for his life when the criminal was unarmed? Wha wha! I’ll be here all night folks.

  93. chicagofinance says:

    so good

    Libturd says:
    February 12, 2016 at 9:27 pm
    How could he fear for his life when the criminal was unarmed? Wha wha! I’ll be here all night folks.

  94. chicagofinance says:

    here is some video of nom in high school…..

    Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:
    February 12, 2016 at 12:19 pm
    [27] sx No, if all my HS friends are to be believed I’M the Captain.
    (Old HS nickname. Had nothing to do with sports either)

    https://youtu.be/12tMVK42yQg?t=3m50s

  95. Essex says:

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  96. Essex says:

    States rights is always code for taking away rights. –Bill Maher

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