NJ/PA Tax Reciprocity Agreement Nearly Dead

From the Philly Inquirer:

Christie ends income tax pact with Pa.; commuters could pay more

Cross the Delaware River for work? Your taxes could go up in 2017.

Gov. Christie on Friday scrapped a decades-long agreement between New Jersey and Pennsylvania that has allowed taxpayers to pay income tax in the state where they live, not where they work.

The change is set to take effect Jan. 1, though Christie suggested he might reverse course if the Democratic-controlled Legislature fills a budget hole by acting swiftly to reduce public employees’ health-care costs.

Christie’s decision means high-income Pennsylvania residents in Bucks County and elsewhere who work in the Garden State would be subject to Trenton’s higher tax-rates. South Jersey residents who work in Philadelphia are also likely to pay higher income taxes – to Harrisburg.

About 125,000 Pennsylvania residents commute to New Jersey, and another 125,000 make the reverse trip, according to Census Bureau estimates.

Christie, a Republican, issued an executive order on June 30, the end of the last fiscal year, asking his administration to examine the issue. In the same order, he said the Legislature had failed to achieve $250 million in savings in public employees’ health-care costs, which he had called for in his February budget address.

Christie’s former treasurer, Andrew Sidamon-Eristoff, has estimated that ending the agreement could generate $180 million annually for New Jersey. To a lesser extent, it also would help Pennsylvania, according to Sidamon-Eristoff.

A spokesman for Wolf, a Democrat, said in a statement that Christie had “erred significantly in his decision to unnecessarily punish 125,000 Pennsylvanians and cost the commonwealth $5 million annually.”

“Gov. Wolf continues to hope that Gov. Christie will change his mind and reverse his decision today,” the statement said. “Unfortunately, it seems that Gov. Christie is committed to making Pennsylvania and our residents working in New Jersey suffer the consequences of his failure to enact a responsible budget in a bipartisan way.”

Either state can withdraw from the Reciprocal Personal Income Tax Agreement, reached in 1977, by simply providing 120 days’ written notice. Christie’s decision did not require approval of the Legislature.

The Christie administration on Friday notified officials in Harrisburg that the governor was nixing the agreement.

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52 Responses to NJ/PA Tax Reciprocity Agreement Nearly Dead

  1. grim says:

    You can argue that you don’t like this decision, or if you live in PA and work in NJ, you probably will because you don’t want to pay higher taxes.

    But the fact is, this tax agreement is an anomaly, these kind of agreements are not commonplace, and rarely exist between states. More importantly, NJ gets screwed by subsidizing a few wealthy PA residents, to the tune of $180m.

    All analysis show that this actually hurts both states, but on net is worse for NJ.

    Work in PA? Will your taxes be lower? Great, move there.

    Work in NJ? Will your taxes be higher? Yes, so get a job in PA.

  2. grim says:

    And to the democrats who will try to slam Christie, McGreevy tried to do this first.

  3. NJCoast says:

    Battening down the hatches.

  4. Joyce says:

    Storm keeps moving farther and farther away

  5. Juice Box says:

    This armchair weatherman is predicting maximum doom.

    http://www.weathernj.com/

  6. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    This one’s for Twitdiot:

    Bolu Babalola
    ‏@BeeBabs
    RT if you would rather scroll IG than talk to Lena Dunham
    https://twitter.com/BeeBabs/status/771815424040308736

    More here: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/lena-dunham-accuses-odell-beckham-jr-giving-cold-shoulder-article-1.2776349

    TL;DR — Lena Dunham can’t imagine why OBJ isn’t into her at Met Gala — he must be shy or gay. O_o

  7. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Well, it looks like I have some research to do. I work for New Jersey firm but I work remotely, almost always in PA. So I should not be subject to New Jersey tax, but I will have to research it to make sure that this remains the case.

  8. ReadngtnDude says:

    I live and work from home in NJ, but for projects mostly in MD, CA and NM. I only pay the tax for those states when I am physically in those states. So, I think you are in good shape. Your company needs to be enlightened on how they collect income tax and record your place of work. My company has a very high travel population plus telecommuters and has gotten taken to task by CA in particular so they know how to do it (I record my place of work daily as part of our time and attendance system for billing purposes).

  9. Steamturd thinking Cankles should be included in the hyper incarceration says:

    I’d be surprised if it even rains anywhere west of Ocean County from Hermine.

  10. Anecdotal observation: Most of my liberal friends on FB have stopped “sharing” anti-Trump propaganda and aren’t posting anything political. OTOH, Trump supporters coming out of the shadows. YMMV.

  11. That bitch be old and dry.

    I’d be surprised if it even rains anywhere west of Ocean County from Hermine.

  12. grim says:

    Looks like a beautiful day.

  13. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    FB is a website. a friend is someone you invite to your house for dinner – not those you follow on a website.
    you have no friends

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    September 3, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    Most of my…friends on FB

  14. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    enduring highest unemployment rate,
    that’s why your trump supporting friends are mad

    @NickTimiraos

    Unemployment rate
    Less than high school 7.2%
    High school 5.1%
    Some college 4.3%
    College 2.7%

    on.wsj.co

  15. Juice Box says:

    Barely any waves down in Manasquan.

    http://www.surfchex.com/manasquan-web-cam.php

  16. grim says:

    Less than high school 7.2%

    Realistically probably double this.

    Drop out of high school, live your life in poverty. It’s easy.

  17. Juice Box says:

    Neighborhood barbecue is back on. I am cooking up a few lbs of my famous grilled cayenne shrimp, always a hit with the young and old.

    Should be interesting to hear the political banter. I wonder what the reaction would be if I wore an I’m with Her t-shirt. I have yet to see anyone sporting one in my trvaels around New Jersey. No lawn signs for her either, and bumper stickers well it ain’t Hillary for President 2008 that is for sure.

  18. Joyce says:

    Because I see the world only in terms of race, what’s the racial breakdown of those with “less than high school”?

  19. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @NateSilver538

    In 2012, people had trouble believing Romney only had a 25% chance.

    This year, they have trouble believing Trump really has a 25% chance.

  20. Juice Box says:

    re: Drop out of high school.

    The state keeps some cohort calculations by subgroup, by high school etc.

    I did notice the Asians in all school districts are upper 90% if not 100% graduation rate, that is some very racist data they publish on the internet. We need to SJWs to sue the state for publishing this racist data.

    http://www.state.nj.us/education/data/grate/2015/4Year.xlsx

  21. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    don’t know. complicated if including undocumented immigrants. but the undocumented unemployment rate could match the college educated, no?

    Joyce says:
    September 4, 2016 at 11:02 am

    what’s the racial breakdown of those with “less than high school”?

  22. Juice Box says:

    Won’t be long now, vive la revolution.

    “CARACAS, Venezuela — President Nicolás Maduro was chased at a routine political event by a crowd of angry protesters banging on pots and yelling that they were hungry, just days after thousands of Venezuelans took to the streets to call for his ouster, local news media reported on Saturday.

    Scenes from the confrontation late Friday, which also appeared in videos uploaded to social media, captured the attention of Venezuelans, many of whom blame the unpopular president for the country’s food shortages.

    In one video, Mr. Maduro tries to calm the pot-bangers by walking among them, only to be surrounded as the furious crowd yells obscenities.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/world/americas/venezuelan-president-is-chased-by-angry-protesters.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

  23. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    yes, Joyce, for trump supporters is all about race

    @ConradHackett

    Trump backers say for people like them, better 50 years ago
    Clinton backers say for people like them, better today

    “And there remain pronounced educational divides:
    Those with postgraduate degrees back Clinton by about three-to-one (59% vs. 21%); among those with some or no college experience, preferences are divided (41% back Trump, 36% Clinton, 9% Johnson and 5% Stein).”

    “Among Clinton supporters, 70% say the gap between the rich and poor is a very big problem, by far the highest percentage of seven issues included in the survey. Among Trump supporters, just 31% cite this as a major problem.”

    “About two-thirds of Trump backers cite immigration (66%) and terrorism (65%) as “very big” problems in the United States. Among Clinton supporters, just 17% say immigration is a very big problem and 36% view terrorism as a major problem”

  24. grim says:

    I’m really getting sick of Asian Privilege.

  25. Joyce says:

    Give it a try. I bet it’s out there somewhere in the bowels of twitter

    Alt-right (the good one) says:
    September 4, 2016 at 11:17 am

    don’t know. complicated

  26. I heard a rumor that anybody with a recent postgraduate degree who is not supporting Clinton is in danger of losing their employment a Starbucks.

    “And there remain pronounced educational divides:
    Those with postgraduate degrees back Clinton by about three-to-one (59% vs. 21%);

  27. should be at Starbucks. And, obviously, not all those with a postgraduate degree support Clinton…just the 2/3rds that work at Starbucks. Hahahahahahaha

  28. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Speaking of Things Philly, the Round Mound of Rebound isn’t getting a WH photo op anytime soon.

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/nbas-barkley-brainwashed-blacks-not-whites-are-keeping-blacks-down

  29. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    It’s been beautiful weather in ChesCo.

    And I’m getting back to it, rather than endure more of the twitiot and his brain damaging echo chamber of a life

  30. Ben says:

    re: Drop out of high school.

    The state keeps some cohort calculations by subgroup, by high school etc.

    I did notice the Asians in all school districts are upper 90% if not 100% graduation rate, that is some very racist data they publish on the internet. We need to SJWs to sue the state for publishing this racist data.

    http://www.state.nj.us/education/data/grate/2015/4Year.xlsx

    I once had a class that was 80% asian. It was a teacher’s dream come true.

  31. grim says:

    I’m beginning to wonder if people are having name server/dns issues.

  32. Not Grimsky says:

    Nah, there might be some, somewhere. But is a holiday weekend, a reflective holiday weekend, where people plan for the rest of the year.

    Add to it, the conversation here gets repetitive and hyper-partisan with the big issues not having an inkling of resolution or consideration until either, the lying witch or the drunk uncle wins (I’m cheering for the drunk uncle -they are a lot of fun, sometimes with drunken fights). Plus the many times pumpkin suffocates any conversation.

    Add, also when you want to add a cool link or copy paste, it does not work many times – it goes into the vortex.

    In short, is the early fall time of the year.

  33. Whatever it is, just keep it up for a couple more weeks until Pumpy gets tired of trying to find his way back and gives up.

    I’m beginning to wonder if people are having name server/dns issues.

  34. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    [36] expat

    Wag the dog

  35. grim says:

    Hmm that fixed something

  36. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    cause they didn’t challenge you? they r worse off for it
    their good grades aren’t translating into positions of power

    Ben says:
    September 4, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    I once had a class that was 80% asian. It was a teacher’s dream come true.

  37. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @Potus

    Happy Labor Day
    – longest streak of job growth ever,
    unemployment cut in half.

    That’s what hardworking Americans can do.

    Let’s keep going!

  38. Tell us about your great rise to high positions that began with challenging your high school physics teacher. Did you tell him that his equations for solving distance travelled, velocity, and acceleration were racist? Idiot.

    cause they didn’t challenge you? they r worse off for it
    their good grades aren’t translating into positions of power

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    longest streak of job growth ever,
    unemployment cut in half

    Then why is GDP growth just over 1% for the last 8 years?

  40. We don’t measure growth in GDP anymore, we measure it in rising debt.

  41. 3b says:

    Yeah! Let’s keep going! Weakest recovery since the great depression! Country more polarized then ever by the so called great uniter. The same man who ‘refuses to acknowledge that he is bi racial and pretends he is African American. And the middle east is in flames! Yep let’s keep going!!

  42. Ben says:

    cause they didn’t challenge you? they r worse off for it
    their good grades aren’t translating into positions of power

    Quite the opposite jerk off. They learned so effectively and so rapidly that you could go well above and beyond the existing curriculum. Students that good challenge you as a teacher more than anyone ever could. They ask the most amazing questions. And they aren’t interested in positions of power. They are too busy becoming doctors, scientists, and engineers.

  43. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Twidiot [39];

    cause they didn’t challenge you? they r worse off for it
    their good grades aren’t translating into positions of power

    Ben says:
    September 4, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    I once had a class that was 80% asian. It was a teacher’s dream come true.

    You reveal yet another facet of your profound ignorance. Are you really asserting east Asian cultures don’t know how to gain influence by institutional infiltration? They have a longer view than your Twitter-addled attention span can even conceive.

  44. Steamturd still chopping says:

    Exclusive: Hillary Clinton Says Husband Bill Should Not Resign From Foundation Post – ABC News

    You can say anything you want about Trump, but Hillary’s immorality may be her ultimate undoing.

  45. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Twitiot bought a football jersey.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colin-kaepernick-jersey-sales-have-skyrocketed-since-he-began-his-protest/

    I’m glad for this. When I see a Kaepernick jersey, I’ll know when to snap off the safety.

  46. Fabius Maximus says:

    But hey, climate change is bogus!

    goo.gl/0KfcS3content_copyCopy short URL

    I understand that that the Koch’s destroyed any chance of an reasonable discussion on this topic, but this is an issue we need to at least acknowledge if not address.

  47. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim,

    New site is painful in many ways.

    http://tinyurl.com/oj4dbxq

  48. Steamturd still chopping says:

    Much more disturbing than climate change…

    http://tinyurl.com/Forget-climate-change

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