NJ economy “in deep trouble”

From the Record:

Census shows no big payday for N.J.

Years of economic malaise showed broad signs of lifting in 2015 across the United States as higher incomes and other beacons of rising prosperity helped reverse nearly a decade of woe following one of the worst recessions in history.

In a sign of the state’s continuing economic struggles, data released today by the Census Bureau showed that New Jersey lagged behind the rest of the country on a series of economic measures last year, including a 0.3 percent increase in median household income that ranked last among the 50 states.

The picture was much brighter in Bergen County, where the median rose 5.1 percent, to $89,023. But it fell 4.8 percent in Passaic County.

The state data, reflecting a period when New Jersey showed relatively strong job gains concentrated in lower-paying industries, also revealed some of the weakest improvements in the country in wages, poverty and per capita income.

Indeed, the report suggests that New Jersey may be turning the corner in its recovery, as even small improvements are better than the stagnant conditions of prior years. The state, with its broad economic base and relatively well-educated population, also remains among the wealthiest states, with a current median household income of $72,222, according to the report, known as the American Community Survey. Other economic reports, meanwhile, have shown rising employment and wage gains closer to national averages.

“If the numbers are for real, it suggests that the economy really is in a catch-up position,” said James Hughes, dean of the Edward J. Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers University. “One year does not a trend make. But when your rankings are so low, you have to wonder, are we are in deep trouble?”

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132 Responses to NJ economy “in deep trouble”

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. Outofstater says:

    Good morning all.
    Regarding wages – it’s not always how much you make, it’s how much you get to keep after taxes and the cost of living.

  3. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Buttocks;

    H354 / T184 is my line in the sand, what is yours? Step Up!

    Well, we know well from Obama what a leftist’s line in the sand is worth — in Syria, for example. You’re saying if Trump gets 185 he’s crossed the Rubicon — on its way to a rout? I’ll take Trump over 184½ — that’s candy from a baby. Can’t get 270 without first getting 185.

  4. grim says:

    Moody’s endorses the end of the NJ-PA tax reciprocity agreement. Amazing since Moody’s generally hates everything NJ does. More evidence Christie’s decision was solid.

    http://observer.com/2016/09/moodys-end-of-tax-break-for-commuters-from-nj-to-pa-credit-positive/

    Financial ratings agency Moody’s believes a coming change in tax rates for commuters between New Jersey and Pennsylvania will be a positive development for New Jersey’s economy, and possibly its future credit rating. Tax reciprocity, or relief from paying income tax in both the state where one lives and the state where one works, is set to run out at the end of the year—and though the roughly 125,000 people who benefit from it won’t be happy, it could have an upside for the state’s credit.

    Although the announcement from Moody’s will not change the state’s A2-negative status, the agency cited the state’s projected $180 million in additional income tax revenue from Pennsylvania residents as a ‘credit positive’ that will benefit New Jersey much more than it hurts its neighbor.

  5. Fabius Maximus says:

    Moose the Rubicon is Trump 270.

    Hey Gary, give me a big Bengazi, for old times sake.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/colin-powell-benghazi-stupid-witch-hunt/

  6. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Moose the Rubicon is Trump 270.

    Like I said, we know what a leftists’ line in the sand is worth.

  7. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    Moose,

    “we know what a leftists’ line in the sand is worth.”

    Ouch, that left a mark. But let’s give Fabian a chance to respond: Rory, wouldn’t you say that Obama brought us peace in our time?

  8. Fabius Maximus says:

    Moose,

    You don’t want to put a line in the sand, that’s fine. But then, you don’t get to mock until Nov 9th.

  9. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    Grim, had a response to Moody’s go into the ether.

    I’m agnostic on the tax move but one thing that I have noticed is that a sizeable percentage of PA commuters working in NJ work in Trenton. I’ve been across all these bridges at rush hours and the pattern for Trenton is inverse of the bridges south of there.

    And most of those Trenton commuters work in state bureaucracies, I’ll wager. Again, anecdotal evidence supports this. I’ve seen it.

    So for Christie, its a triple win: Raises tax revenue, sticks it to the state bureaucracy, and sticks it to Sweeney.

  10. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    Sadly, I have to back Rory on the election prediction, though I am sure we disagree as to the reasons.

    But the truly sad part is that Clinton should be utterly wasting Trump and isn’t. That says a lot more about her negatives than his positives.

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    Fabius,

    On the train. I don’t get it. Is “Bengazi” some Italian guy?

  12. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    and if you are wondering “what Obamacare crisis?”, even Obama went and “pleaded” his case directly to “the enemy.”

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-meets-with-insurers-on-obamacare/article/2601582

  13. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    Eddie, that’s how the brits spell Benghazi. Kind of like licence and favour. Both of which show up as misspelled per Grim’s spellchecker.

    Rory: BENGHAZI!!! There, feel better? The reason it resonates isn’t just because it was a bad decision, it was because it was bad politics.

  14. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    Finally, the two primary topics that the insurers gave Obama an earful about are special enrollment periods and grace periods, both of which are being gamed, and Obama is promising to respond in a way that helps the insurers.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-14/insurers-ask-administration-to-tighten-obamacares-grace-period

    This tells me that Obama is intent on saving his legacy (we can disagree on whether it is worth saving), and it will be interesting to see how the other stakeholders on the left side of the aisle respond. If they fight Obama, it suggests that they are looking for Obamacare to perform as expected and pave the way for single payer or public option, both of which will work massive dislocations in health care delivery.

  15. chicagofinance says:

    The End Is Nigh (clot future of our youth Edition):
    TRENTON, N.J. — Police are investigating after they say a kindergarten student in New Jersey’s capital city brought 30 packs of heroin to school.

    Police were called to the International Academy of Trenton on Monday.

    Police tell The Trentonian newspaper a teacher thought the 5-year-old was playing with a candy wrapper when she looked in his lunchbox and found 29 other packets of the drug.

    The boy was taken to a hospital, where he tested negative for opiates.

    Police are trying to determine where the child got the drugs and no one has been charged.

  16. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    “a teacher . . . looked in his lunchbox and found 29 other packets of the drug. . . .

    Police are trying to determine where the child got the drugs and no one has been charged”

    Tells you all you need to know right there. Nothing to see here, move along.

  17. grim says:

    Just keeps getting better. From the Star Ledger:

    New Jersey tops nation in number of millennials living with their parents

    If you’re a parent in New Jersey and your grown children are still living with you, you have a lot of company.

    Nearly 47 percent of 18- to 34-year-olds were still living at home last year, Census data show, making New Jersey the top state in the nation for millennials living with their parents in 2015.

    Young adults were more likely to live with their parents than to live with a spouse or partner in their own residence. Only a third of that age group lived independently of their relatives.

    Other Eastern states grappled with the same issue — Connecticut and New York tied for the second-highest rate of parental living. North Dakota and the District of Columbia were the most independent-minded. Overall, 34 percent of the nation’s millennials lived with their parents in 2015.

    Plenty of explanations have been posited, including young adults marrying at a later age and working towards a college degree. But recent Census data on economic trends reveals that New Jersey dragged behind the nation in wage growth, suggesting that economic factors may be giving millennials an incentive to stay home.

    That’s not likely to change in the next year. Job growth from July 2015 to 2016 ticked up a measly 1.4 percent in the state, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The unemployment rate hovered above 5 percent in New Jersey, while the rest of the nation and Northeast fell to 4.8 percent.

  18. grim says:

    Both of which show up as misspelled per Grim’s spellchecker.

    The spell check you may or may not see on the site is actually your web browser.

  19. grim says:

    I sometimes set my browser locale to UK English to force myself to be a little bit more proper. I find it helps when writing formal letters.

  20. grim says:

    NJ jobs numbers out today, should be a trifecta shit show.

  21. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    “I sometimes set my browser locale to UK English to force myself to be a little bit more proper. I find it helps when writing formal letters.”

    That’s a great tip. Will have to try it.

  22. Comrade Nom Deplorable says:

    Sign of the Times: How the crackdown on Antiparty Speech is infecting everything.

    I authored an article (technically, co-authored but lets be clear, I wrote it and the partner is just putting his name on it) for publication in an industry periodical.

    The editor sent back our proposed bios. Interestingly, I noticed that there were no titles, such as “Mr.” So it reads “DePlume is an attorney with . . . ” I thought it was an error so I wrote to the editor and pointed this out.

    She replied, no, not an error. That is how they publish now. No gender titles.

    Welcome to 1984.

  23. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    New addition to the handle. Using the word “Resistance” will guarantee me a spot in the NSA database.

  24. grim says:

    I self identify as an MD now, so I’m asking that everyone address me as Doctor.

  25. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    Dr. Grim. Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.

    In other news, I just saw the first use of millennial as a verb:

    ” You and the rest that allow a volunteer force to do your dirty work, while you millenial [sic] your life away”

  26. Juice Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    I go with MC myself.

  27. grim says:

    Jobs shit show

    2,200 jobs added in August, unemployment increases from 5.2% to 5.3%.

    July revised down to -7,800 from -4,700.

  28. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    I go with TP. Especially when I do #2.

  29. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    In other news…fear not your ability to purchase favor if Illary gets elected. Though Bill and Illary have begrudgingly agreed to not serve on the board, Chelsea will still be available for the purchase of your illegal needs.

  30. D-FENS says:

    Senator Chuck Schumer of New York recently let the mask slip. He recently conceded that the main reason the Democrats want to retain the power of the presidency is to transform the U.S. Supreme Court into a progressive body.

    If that ever happens, kiss America as you know it goodbye.

    The Daily Signal reports:

    Conservatives Should Worry: Democrat Senator Says Progressive Supreme Court Top Goal

    Sen. Chuck Schumer has reminded us just how important the upcoming presidential election will be in shaping the federal judiciary, calling getting a progressive Supreme Court his “number one goal.”

    “A progressive majority on the Supreme Court is an imperative, and if I become majority leader, I will make it happen,” Schumer, D-N.Y., said to attendees at a conference last week hosted by the Rev. Al Sharpton.

    These statements should concern individuals with a proper understanding of the limited role of the judiciary. The next president will appoint at least one justice to the Supreme Court and could fill one-third of judgeships on the lower courts by the end of two terms.

    And a “progressive” Supreme Court is not outside the realm of possibilities.

    The high court has been closely divided on a number of contentious issues in recent years: the Second Amendment (Heller, McDonald), religious liberty (Hobby Lobby, Town of Greece), the First Amendment (Citizens United), racial preferences (Fisher I), and the death penalty (Glossip), among others. One vote made the difference in each of these cases, which most consider as victories for the conservative wing of the court.

    Schumer specifically criticized a 2013 decision involving a 5-4 decision about voting rights. In Shelby County v. Holder, the court held that Section 4 of the Voting Right Act, which set forth a 40-year-old coverage formula laying out which states needed to get preapproval from the federal government before making any changes in their voting laws, was unconstitutional.

    Donald Trump has vowed to only nominate judges who believe in the U.S. Constitution.

  31. jcer says:

    I self identify as a South American military dictator..so please refer to me as either El Jefe or General from this point on …….

  32. In Hillary’s new note from her doctor it reads,

    “My overall impressions is that Mrs. Clinton has not developed new medical conditions this year other than a sinus and ear infection and her recently diagnosed pneumonia.”

    Lie of omission?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3789854/Democratic-presisdential-candidate-Hillary-Clinton-bacterial-pneumonia-campaign.html

  33. ^^^^ If you click on one of the photos in that story it will let you page through to images of the new two page letter from her doctor.

  34. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    This here’s a jam for all the fellas
    Tryin’ to do what those ladies tell us
    Get shot down cause ya overzealous
    Play hard to get females get jealous
    Okay smarty, go to a party
    Girls are scantily clad and showin’ body
    A chick walks by you wish you could sex her
    But you’re standing on the wall like you was Poindexter
    Next day’s function, high class luncheon
    Food is served and you’re stone-cold munchin’
    Music comes on people start to dance
    But then you ate so much you nearly split your pants
    A girl starts walking, guys start gawking
    Sits down next to you and starts talking
    Says she wants to dance cause she likes to groove
    So come on fatso and just bust a move
    Just bust a move

  35. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    DFENS

    Hardly news. The left has been quite open about it’s intentions to turn the Supreme Court into a second Legislative Branch.

    And they have been quite vituperative of any attempts by conservatives to prevent that from happening.

  36. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    This from my news feed:

    “Companies quietly changing health plans

    The Washington Post

    WASHINGTON — While politicians have been embroiled in a fiery debate over President Barack Obama’s signature health care law, a quiet but profound shift is fundamentally reshaping how health insurance works for the roughly 155 million Americans who receive coverage through their employers.

    A national survey of employer health benefits released Wednesday shows how much deductibles — the health care costs that people must pay out of their own pockets before insurance kicks in — have shot up. In 2016, 4 in 5 workers had a deductible as part of their individual coverage, averaging $1,478. During the past five years, deductibles have grown 10 times as fast as inflation and nearly six times as fast as wages, according to the new report.

    For the first time, employer-sponsored health plans also reached a new benchmark: Half of all workers who receive insurance through their employers faced a deductible of at least $1,000 a year for individual coverage — up from just 10 percent of workers in 2006, according to the survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation and Health Research & Educational Trust. The average deductible for individuals in firms with fewer than 200 employees is $2,069.

    “We’ve been so fixated on the Affordable Care Act, we’ve missed a gradual sea change in what health insurance is for most Americans,” said Drew Altman, president of the Kaiser Family Foundation. “It’s why, if we were ever to tell an average person that we’re living in a period of historic moderation in health care costs, they would probably think we’re out of our minds — because what they pay out of pocket has been going up over time. … That’s kind of the pain index for people.”

    Although the Affordable Care Act included a cap on out-of-pocket spending for plans sold through the marketplaces, there are no such rules for insurance offered on the employer market. There has been a furor over the premium hikes and the stability of the marketplaces, where roughly 11 million Americans receive coverage. But far less attention has been paid to how deductibles are shaping the spending — and health — of the large number of Americans with employer-based insurance.

    Reining in health care expenditures has become a major issue for large and small employers. The Kaiser data shows that while premium increases have moderated —with family premiums growing an average of three percent last year — many employers have increased their use of high-deductible plans, and the deductibles themselves have also skyrocketed. . . . .”

    Hoocoodanode?

  37. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    Expat:

    ““My overall impressions is that Mrs. Clinton has not developed new medical conditions this year . . .”

    I like to parse as much as the next guy, but, in fairness, I note that the first sentence in this letter indicates that it is a follow up to last year’s. So, provided last year’s letter is available, the doctor isn’t playing hide-the-ball here.

    Also, with a BP of 100/70, bouts of dizziness or lightheadedness are not unanticipated.

    I don’t like the idea of defending Hillary but I can’t ignore facts that go in her favor.

  38. My wife’s BP is lower than that and she maintains consciousness just fine…until I start talking.

    Also, with a BP of 100/70, bouts of dizziness or lightheadedness are not unanticipated.

  39. Dr. Drew is a scaredy cunt
    Dr. Drew is a scaredy cunt

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtL3Llu-7Uc

  40. grim says:

    Also, with a BP of 100/70, bouts of dizziness or lightheadedness are not unanticipated.

    Re: Boner – this explains everything

  41. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @KyleGrffin1
    Anti-Defamation League calls out Don Jr. for Holocaust joke and asks him to retract it:

    @ADL_National
    .@DonaldJTrumpJr: We hope you understand the sensitivity and hurt of making Holocaust jokes. We hope you retract.

  42. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @ADL_National

    .@DonaldJTrumpJr: Trivialization of the Holocaust and gas chambers is NEVER okay.

  43. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    But making fun of homosexuals is completely acceptable. No homo! Just shut the fcuk up you complete sh1t for brains.

  44. D-FENS says:

    or break wind

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    September 15, 2016 at 1:18 pm
    My wife’s BP is lower than that and she maintains consciousness just fine…until I start talking.

    Also, with a BP of 100/70, bouts of dizziness or lightheadedness are not unanticipated.

  45. twitiot – he meant gas chamber as in capital punishment. Besides you would be a liar(well, that verdict is already in) if you said the thought of a Republican in a gas chamber doesn’t make you moist.

  46. Just the opposite, she runs a 4 second 40.
    or break wind

  47. The woman who was getting her fingers squeezed by Hillary may have just just demonstrating. She’s a Wellesley grad. Shocker.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-falvo-51960542

  48. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    At least the Twitiot is consistent. But then again, so are my bowels and I find what they have to say equally as interesting.

  49. nwnj3 says:

    We’re a country full of whiners now when it comes to being offended. 100 million dollar athletes turn into crybabies when the c0ach benches them. College kids who were never exposed to bullying thanks to a bunch of do gooders have too thin skln to withstand any concepts they don’t agree with. Whaa, whaa, whaa.

  50. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    ExPat…she’s a heck of a writer.

    His positive and easy going nature are contagious

  51. I think the whole Kaepernick caper was all about shining a spotlight on himself when he lost the starting QB job. The only person of color he cares about cashes his paycheck.

  52. Is that gay slang?

    ExPat…she’s a heck of a writer.

  53. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Nope. Just making fun of the terrible writing skills of the CEO of a huge liberal media relations company.

  54. walking bye says:

    Ex Pat, I hear Kaepernick is now protesting during the games by sitting on the bench.

  55. nwnj3 says:

    I started protesting excessively high prices to pro sports games a few years ago by not showing up. I think I’ll continue.

  56. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    She replied, no, not an error. That is how they publish now. No gender titles.

    I wonder how that is playing in a female-heavy field like law? Its one thing for the cultural marxists to take cheap shots as the disfavored white men, but I really see no particular shortage of women or lack of diversity in race and national origin at the bar — surely a Obama, Bernie or Illary campaign staff meeting is more homogeneously white and predominantly male. What happens when the identity politics racket starts to eat its own?

  57. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Ex Pat [re: Wellesley grad];

    Whatever her qualities, she’s obviously no Huma…

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  58. No One says:

    Here’s the future of the language, as will be required by the thought police:
    http://www.citylab.com/navigator/2015/09/ze-or-they-a-guide-to-using-gender-neutral-pronouns/407167/
    Ze laughed
    I called zir
    Zir eyes gleam
    That is zirs
    Ze likes zirself

  59. No One says:

    Using the term “I” will also be punishable by death, because everything “takes a village”
    See this novelette:
    http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Ayn_Rand/Anthem/Part_One_p1.html
    WE ARE ONE IN ALL AND ALL IN ONE. THERE ARE NO MEN BUT ONLY THE GREAT _WE_, ONE, INDIVISIBLE AND FOREVER

  60. 1987 Condo says:

    Update from my daughter…Illiary is on her campus!!

  61. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Advice for your daughter: Run!

  62. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    or transfer!

  63. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Footie talk:

    Man U drops another; this the opening match of the Europa League group stage. Admittedly they weren’t playing the A-team.

  64. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Watching Illary give her current address and she sounds terrible. Like someone turned down her intonation button. She almost sounds like a robot now.

  65. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    And…she can barely walk.

  66. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    F*Hillary heard at the UNCG Rally.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axCEJB0cDXE

  67. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    On the Federalist Soc. page today, we were debating religious freedom and public accommodation laws. I advanced the idea that there is an irreconcilable conflict between RFRA and the Civil Rights Act, and, also, that we have essentially elevated access to one’s favorite toilet and cake decorator to the level of a compelling government interest.

    Some anon/fabian/otto type replied and we were off. Then he said that “RFRA is the GOP’s brain child”

    I totally owned him (it was a D-sponsored bill, signed by Clinton, and approved by nearly every sitting D in the House and Senate). Haven’t heard from him since.

    I do enjoy a good smackdown.

  68. chicagofinance says:

    I went to high school with Marvin…..

    MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:
    September 15, 2016 at 12:21 pm
    This here’s a jam for all the fellas
    Tryin’ to do what those ladies tell us
    Get shot down cause ya overzealous
    Play hard to get females get jealous
    Okay smarty, go to a party
    Girls are scantily clad and showin’ body
    A chick walks by you wish you could sex her
    But you’re standing on the wall like you was Poindexter
    Next day’s function, high class luncheon
    Food is served and you’re stone-cold munchin’
    Music comes on people start to dance
    But then you ate so much you nearly split your pants
    A girl starts walking, guys start gawking
    Sits down next to you and starts talking
    Says she wants to dance cause she likes to groove
    So come on fatso and just bust a move
    Just bust a move

  69. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    Moose,

    First names are used and pictures where available. So there is little confusion unless your name is Pat or Chris and there’s no photo.

    And sometimes there’s confusion even if there is a photo.

  70. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    “They out there panicking right now, I can feel it.”
    -Billy Ray Valentine (https://youtu.be/uI4fVgVVpiw?t=39s)

    HuffPost: Bring Back Bernie Sanders. Clinton Might Actually Lose To Trump

  71. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Paging 30-yr (or anyone else who might know). I have a friend in need of trashout service on a rental property in Ocean county. Please sound off with any referrals.

    Thanks.

  72. But bite a cookie into the shape of a gun and see what happens.

    “a teacher . . . looked in his lunchbox and found 29 other packets of the drug. . . .

    Police are trying to determine where the child got the drugs and no one has been charged”

    Tells you all you need to know right there. Nothing to see here, move along.

  73. Mc Box says:

    It is officially crazy that Trump is within 4 of Hillary in the latest Emerson poll in NJ. NJ is such a Democrat strong hold. I think Hillary will still win in NJ it but simply crazy that Trump is within striking distance in some polls in NJ.

  74. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Is it really? The DNC showed their true colors through Wikileaks. Plus we’ve had enough with nepotism already. The treatment of Jeb in the primaries showed this.

  75. cunt politics on the decline.

  76. I just love that that word isn’t censored here.

  77. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    MC Box;

    It is officially crazy that Trump is within 4 of Hillary in the latest Emerson poll in NJ.

    It seems “Deplorables” has stronger legs than Illary does.

  78. D-FENS says:

    HA HA.

    Protester grabs the Mic from Tim Kaine at rally…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7lwpEhLNaE

  79. D-FENS says:

    AsianConservativeMan ‏@aconman_
    A border wall is unconservative, and it offends my Asian sensibilities. If there’s anything you won’t find in Asia, it’s a big wall.

  80. D-FENS says:

    https://twitter.com/aconman_/status/775033299680976896

    AsianConservativeMan ‏@aconman_
    Remember when Gerald Ford fell down, and no one made fun because it would’ve been mean? No Hillary jokes, please!

  81. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    DFENS,

    I see that Google is continuing its censorship for Hillary and the Dems. The audio goes to white noise a millisecond after the protester grabs the mic.

    Reminds me of the 18 1/2 minutes on the Nixon tapes.

  82. D-FENS says:

    Good read for any so called “conservatives” who are still deciding who to vote for

    http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/

    The election of 2016 is a test—in my view, the final test—of whether there is any virtù left in what used to be the core of the American nation. If they cannot rouse themselves simply to vote for the first candidate in a generation who pledges to advance their interests, and to vote against the one who openly boasts that she will do the opposite (a million more Syrians, anyone?), then they are doomed. They may not deserve the fate that will befall them, but they will suffer it regardless.

  83. Ben says:

    There’s difference between being a klutz that trips all the time and someone who can’t stand up on their own. At one point in time, I had severe injuries to both knees and could not stand for more than 5 minutes on my own. When I see her reaching for tables and chairs to support herself, I know exactly what she’s doing. At that point in time, you are literally trying anything to give your knees a chance.

    Now…if you are 70 and have those knee problems, it’s nothing to be ashamed of. I had them when I was 26. But…if you have them…friggin admit it. Don’t act like nothing is wrong. If Hillary said she was 70 and in need of knee replacement, everyone her age would say…”hey I do too”.

    Andrew Jackson used to walk around a cane. And, when someone tried to shoot him, he beat them with the cane.

  84. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @McKayCoppins

    Much like a proposed Muslim ban,

    championing a racist conspiracy theory about the president for years isn’t something you can just take back

  85. D-FENS says:

    The coolest presidential assasination attempt was Theodore Roosevelt’s. He was shot in the chest…but went on to finish his speech…

    http://www.history.com/news/shot-in-the-chest-100-years-ago-teddy-roosevelt-kept-on-talking

    Theodore Roosevelt’s opening line was hardly remarkable for a presidential campaign speech: “Friends, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible.” His second line, however, was a bombshell.

    “I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot.”

    Clearly, Roosevelt had buried the lede. The horrified audience in the Milwaukee Auditorium on October 14, 1912, gasped as the former president unbuttoned his vest to reveal his bloodstained shirt. “It takes more than that to kill a bull moose,” the wounded candidate assured them. He reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a bullet-riddled, 50-page speech. Holding up his prepared remarks, which had two big holes blown through each page, Roosevelt continued. “Fortunately I had my manuscript, so you see I was going to make a long speech, and there is a bullet—there is where the bullet went through—and it probably saved me from it going into my heart. The bullet is in me now, so that I cannot make a very long speech, but I will try my best.”

  86. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “championing a racist conspiracy theory about the president for years isn’t something you can just take back”

    In 2008, Hillary was against drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. In 2015, she is for them. In 2000, Hillary opposed gay marriage. In 2015, she is for them. Until 2015, Hillary was a proponent of charter schools. Today, not so much.

    Shut the fukc up already you ignoramus.

  87. D-FENS says:

    Corrupt motherfcukers. NJ Legislature to the rescue. Now they want a law that shields public officials from tax appeals.

    http://www.njherald.com/20160916/activist-calls-bill-an-offense-against-taxpayers#

    Activist calls bill an offense against taxpayers
    By Eric Obernauer New Jersey Herald
    Posted: Sep. 16, 2016 12:01 am
    A citizen activist is calling on taxpayers throughout the state to oppose a bill that would shield public officials and private citizens from the scrutiny of third-party tax appeals.

    Jesse Wolosky — a Sparta resident in the process of mounting a court challenge against the Fredon home of tax assessor Penny Holenstein, who he believes is underassessed and not paying her fair share of property taxes — said Thursday that the bill would deprive taxpayers of a key tool for holding public officials accountable to the citizens they serve.

    “This attempt by members of the political establishment is one of the worst actions we have seen from New Jersey politicians against New Jersey taxpayers,” said Wolosky, who indicated he had just become aware of the bill.

    “It is an offense that some New Jersey politicians would attempt such a move,” he said.

    The bill, as written, would eliminate the provision under current state law that allows homeowners who feel discriminated against not only to appeal their own property assessments, but also to challenge the assessment of anyone else in the same county who they reasonably believe is underassessed.

    A Senate version of the bill, S.2212, was introduced by state Sen. Robert Singer, R-Monmouth/Ocean, on May 16 — less than two weeks after the New Jersey Herald first reported on Wolosky’s plan to go in front of the Sussex County Board of Taxation to argue for an increase in Holenstein’s property assessment.

    An Assembly version of the bill, A.3888, was introduced by Assemblyman Reed Gusciora, D-Hunterdon/Mercer, on June 6.

  88. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “Gov. Chris Christie is expected to sign a bill passed by state lawmakers that will put armed, retired cops in New Jersey schools.”

    Oy vey.

    The pussification of America is nearly complete. Bin Laden was right. We will bankrupt ourselves into our own demise.

  89. D-FENS says:

    I wrote his office asking him to sign it.

    I spent a day at my son’s school as a part of a voluntary watchdog/mentoring program. His school actually already has a retired cop walking around. This bill just allows him to be armed.

    STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Cankle fluid. says:
    September 16, 2016 at 10:18 am
    “Gov. Chris Christie is expected to sign a bill passed by state lawmakers that will put armed, retired cops in New Jersey schools.”

    Oy vey.

    The pussification of America is nearly complete. Bin Laden was right. We will bankrupt ourselves into our own demise.

  90. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    How many mass shootings in schools have there been? 5? There are 200,000 schools in America. Half are public.

    Do the math on what this will cost. It’s like building bathrooms for hermaphrodites. When will it end?

  91. D-FENS says:

    I just told you. They already put security guards/retired cops in my son’s school district.

    I disagree. I don’t have a problem with them protecting my kid with everything they’ve got. Take the money from somewhere else then. This is something I don’t mind them spending it on.

  92. D-FENS says:

    Jesus…Christie is actually doing the stuff we sent him there to do for once and people still bitch.

  93. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    The we agree to disagree. If you think an 85 year-old Officer Krupkie is going to stop a deranged 16 year-old from shooting up his classroom with a semi-automatic weapon, then we’ll have to agree to disagree.

  94. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    D-FENS;

    His school actually already has a retired cop walking around. This bill just allows him to be armed.

    You honestly think that a retired officer is going to walk a sentry post unarmed? What happens when I pull the other one?

    That’s the thing about guns in NJ, there are far more of them (legal or illegal) nearer to people than most of them know. They are fine with it as long as they are ignorant of it.

  95. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    2,000 kids between 0 and 19 will die of cancer this year.
    40 kids between the age of 5 and 17 will die from violence in schools this year.

    Hmmm…which should we be funding?

  96. Fast Eddie says:

    Arm a few teachers. They’re already getting paid. No extra cost. Then let the world know that if a crazy enters a school with a gun, he/she will get blasted from a different angles.

  97. D-FENS says:

    I met the guy and asked him smart guy

    Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:
    September 16, 2016 at 11:16 am
    D-FENS;

    His school actually already has a retired cop walking around. This bill just allows him to be armed.

    You honestly think that a retired officer is going to walk a sentry post unarmed? What happens when I pull the other one?

    That’s the thing about guns in NJ, there are far more of them (legal or illegal) nearer to people than most of them know. They are fine with it as long as they are ignorant of it.

  98. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    twitiot,

    “championing a racist conspiracy theory about the president for years isn’t something you can just take back”

    And calling it racist doesn’t make it so. A lie doesn’t become a truth just because a sizeable portion of (moronic) individuals believe it.

  99. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    A-none;

    championing a racist conspiracy theory about the president for years isn’t something you can just take back

    Bombshell: ‘Washington Post’ Confirms Hillary Clinton Started the Birther Movement

    Its like fish in a barrel, Nom.

  100. chicagofinance says:

    Dedicated to our long lost Randian…..miss him….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJ9QHKf9Ss

  101. I just heard an interesting premise from an Englishman:

    Trump and the Republican Senate and Congress will form a coalition government, much the same way as two parties in power do in parliament. “The Republican house and senate will put the screws to Trump much worse than they ever have to Obama.”

  102. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    ONJExPat;

    “The Republican house and senate will put the screws to Trump much worse than they ever have to Obama.”

    Long since noted that Republican leadership is good for the country, if only because it motivates the press to do their job.

  103. Pete says:

    Ha, I saw the the Trump campaign trying to blame hillary for birtherism as well and I was thinking is anyone really stupid enough to fall for that. I guess I got my answer. And to post a link from Breitbart as support is icing on the cake (the article itself doesn’t even support its own headline).

    And even if it was granted that HRC started it, what are the birthers trying to say now? That they were morons because HRC made them be morons? Where’s the personal responsibility for not being a moron?

  104. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    HRC doesn’t need Trump to make her luck untrustworthy. The DNC is doing that for her.

  105. BREAKING NEWS ON HILLARY’S HEALTH: She’s a man, baby!

    @HillaryClinton
    President Obama’s successor cannot and will not be the man who led the racist birther movement. Period.

  106. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “President Obama’s successor cannot and will not be the man who led the racist birther movement. Period.”

    She did say, “Period.” The LEFT will deem this a correction.

  107. Moose – I’m stealing this line. Thanks.

    Long since noted that Republican leadership is good for the country, if only because it motivates the press to do their job.

  108. chicagofinance says:

    For leftwing:

    Cornell-Harvard Hockey

    Cornell is abuzz the week before any contest against Harvard. Harvard has declared that Cornell has surpassed Yale as its primary rival. An article from The Harvard Crimson in 2010 stated emphatically that, “[f]or though Harvard-Yale weekend is historic in its own right, the Bulldogs can no longer be considered the Crimson’s most hated foe.” The rivalry has been characterized as being “as big and as boisterous as a Michigan-Ohio State football contest.”

    The taunts between the fan bases have grown and adapted in the modern era of the rivalry. The unison chant of “Harvard sucks” is ubiquitous at games between the rivals. However, the repertoire of both fanbases has expanded in recent years. The Lynah Faithful and Harvard fans are heard often exchanging the taunt of “safety school”. These exchanges highlight a common feature of taunts during the Cornell-Harvard rivalry in recent years that involve references to grade inflation and admissions standards. Cornell is among the most grade deflationary institutions in the United States. Grading practices at Harvard have been cited as examples of grade inflation. The Lynah Faithful have capitalized upon these findings and incorporated them in their taunts of the Crimson with cheers of “grade inflation” and “Give me an A, give me another A, give me another A, give me another A, welcome to Harvard.”

  109. D-FENS says:

    Maybe not Hillary…but definitely Hillary supporters

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

    The paper trail

    The allegation about Obama’s birthplace tracks back to the bruising 2008 Democratic primary between Obama and Clinton. According to a Telegraph article, as early as April 2008, a Clinton supporter passed around an email that questioned where Obama was born.

    “Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy,” it said. “She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth.”

    The cry that Obama was not a legitimate candidate grew much louder in June 2008.

    On June 7, 2008, Clinton conceded and called for all Democrats to rally behind Obama. Some in her party did not care to listen. By June 10, 2008, opponents to Obama were posting on a website called Pumaparty.com. PUMA stood for Party Unity My Ass. The website encouraged frustrated Clinton supporters to back the Republican nominee.

    John Avlon, editor-in-chief of the Daily Beast, explored the roots of the birther movement in his book Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America. Avlon described a posting on the PUMA website with the heading “Obama May Be Illegal to Be Elected President!” He wrote that a Clinton volunteer in Texas, Linda Starr, played a key role in spreading the rumor.

    Starr connected with Pennsylvania attorney Philip Berg in August and Berg followed up by suing in federal court to block Obama’s nomination. The suit was thrown out repeatedly on the grounds that Berg lacked standing and the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately refused to hear his appeal.

    Pete says:
    September 16, 2016 at 12:30 pm
    Ha, I saw the the Trump campaign trying to blame hillary for birtherism as well and I was thinking is anyone really stupid enough to fall for that. I guess I got my answer. And to post a link from Breitbart as support is icing on the cake (the article itself doesn’t even support its own headline).

    And even if it was granted that HRC started it, what are the birthers trying to say now? That they were morons because HRC made them be morons? Where’s the personal responsibility for not being a moron?

  110. D-FENS says:

    Anyone catch the “press conference” live?

    It had nothing to do with “the birther movement”. Trump stood there while ex military leaders and medal of honor winners praised him for 30 minutes….Then he promptly left the room…the reporters were pissed and could see they were fooled into broadcasting live an endorsement by military leaders…on CNN and MSNBC!

  111. D-FENS says:

    Suckers

    @JDiamond1
    Donald Trump’s staff told multiple outlets this would be a press conference. Donald Trump took the free cable TV air time and took no Qs

  112. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    DFENS,

    Despite saying that the Clinton campaign was behind the birther movement, Politifact decides to parse and rate it False because they don’t equate Hillary with her campaign. In other words, we can’t find her fingerprints on the gun so the killing can’t be attributed to her.

    The Breitbart piece put it best: Apparently, the candidate is responsible for his subordinates only when a republican.

    We really do need some appreciable level of political violence in this country to snap the leadership back into some semblance of centrism. Sagebrush Rebellion 2.0 with a few doses of Greensboro thrown in for starters. South Central, Baltimore and Detroit thrown in for good measure. That should do it.

  113. Ottoman says:

    His only mistake was assuming republicans have brains. Then again, they’re the ones who really invented Obamacare.

    Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:
    September 15, 2016 at 4:40 pm
    On the Federalist Soc. page today, we were debating religious freedom and public accommodation laws. I advanced the idea that there is an irreconcilable conflict between RFRA and the Civil Rights Act, and, also, that we have essentially elevated access to one’s favorite toilet and cake decorator to the level of a compelling government interest.

    Some anon/fabian/otto type replied and we were off. Then he said that “RFRA is the GOP’s brain child”

    I totally owned him (it was a D-sponsored bill, signed by Clinton, and approved by nearly every sitting D in the House and Senate). Haven’t heard from him since.

    I do enjoy a good smackdown.

  114. Ottoman says:

    “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California,” – Hillary Clinton during her 2008 presidential nomination run against Obama when asked if she was quitting after she had no chance to win.

  115. D-FENS says:

    @aconman_ 5m5 minutes ago
    It’s racist to question a man’s eligibility for the presidency due to circumstances of birth. Trump did that only because Ted Cruz is black

  116. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    Expat, This gif is being censored over on FB.

    http://giphy.com/gifs/WWfN7bj884bKg

  117. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    Footrest

    “His only mistake was assuming republicans have brains. Then again, they’re the ones who really invented Obamacare.”

    I am guessing that you failed to appreciate the stunningly illogical contradiction in your post. Let me know if you would like this brainless deplorable to explain it for you.

  118. joyce says:

    People voted for Christie on his pledge to put armed guards in schools? don’t recall that being part of his platform

    D-FENS says:
    September 16, 2016 at 10:49 am
    Jesus…Christie is actually doing the stuff we sent him there to do for once and people still bitch.

  119. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    Great. IRS just announced another NPRM that I have to reply to.

    Otto, if I give you the 64 count box, can you handle it for me?

  120. Fast Eddie says:

    Otto want a biscuit?

  121. Outofstater says:

    From today’s NYTimes – according to Gloria Steinem, there is a growing unease among Hillary supporters that Trump’s candidacy is “being legitimized by media even-handedness.”

  122. Outofstater says:

    From today’s NYTimes: According to Gloria Steinem, there is a growing unease among Hillary supporters that Trump’s candidacy is being “legitimized by media even-handedness.”

  123. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    Twatter war..

    ‏@jimasher
    @HillaryClinton So why did your man #sidblumenthal spread the #obama birther rumor to me in 2008, asking us to investigate? Remember?

  124. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @business

    People think they are middle-class, whether they make $200k or $22k

  125. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @pourmecoffee

    If your remarks addressing a years-long pattern of outright bigotry is a promotion for your campaign and hotel,
    you may not be sincere.

  126. D-FENS says:

    Yes. He also said arm the children. It’s the only way.

    joyce says:
    September 16, 2016 at 2:51 pm
    People voted for Christie on his pledge to put armed guards in schools? don’t recall that being part of his platform

    D-FENS says:
    September 16, 2016 at 10:49 am
    Jesus…Christie is actually doing the stuff we sent him there to do for once and people still bitch.

  127. joyce says:

    Don’t recall either but okay.

  128. D-FENS says:

    Hispanic activist @TonyYapias, who criticized Trump’s comments about Mexican rapists, has been charged with rape.

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