NY Metro finally catching up?

From the Real Deal:

Home prices in NY area climbed 5.1% year-over-year in August

August prices for single-family homes in the New York metro area rose 5.1 percent compared to the same time last year, according to a new report from CoreLogic.

CoreLogic released its monthly Home Price Index and Home Price Index Forecast for August on Tuesday, covering all single-family home transactions in New York City, Jersey City and White Plains. The analysis also shows prices rose 1.7 percent month-over-month.

The slight rise is in keeping with a national trend, which CoreLogic TRData LogoTINY CEO Anand Nallathambi attributed to investor-fueled demand and lack of adequate supply.

“This continued price appreciation is contributing to a growing affordability crisis in many market around the country,” Nallathambi said.

Nationwide house prices increased by 6.2 percent year-over-year, and 1.1 percent on a month-over-month basis, the data showed.
CoreLogic predicts U.S. home prices will increase by 5.3 percent on a year-over-year basis between August 2016 and August 2017. The month-over-month prices are expected to rise by 0.4 percent.

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138 Responses to NY Metro finally catching up?

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. grim says:

    Just looking at the last S&P Case Shiller.

    NY Metro Region:
    Low Tier (Under 283k) – Back to early 2004 levels
    Mid Tier (283-455) – Back to late 2004 levels
    High Tier (455k Up) – Back to mid 2004 levels

    Low Tier (Under 283k)
    Up 4.1% YOY
    Up 7.3% 2YOY
    Up 10.4% 3YOY
    Up 15.7% 4YOY

    Mid Tier (283-455)
    Up 3.1% YOY
    Up 5.7% 2YOY
    Up 9.1% 3YOY
    Up 12.7% 4YOY

    High Tier (455k Up)
    Up 0.7% YOY
    Up 2.5% 2YOY
    Up 6.4% 3YOY
    Up 9.1% 4YOY

    Aggregate
    Up 1.7% YOY
    Up 3.8% 2YOY
    Up 7.4% 3YOY
    Up 10.2% 4YOY

    In all cases 2012 was market bottom, and 2006 was market peak.

  3. Mc Box says:

    East coast of Florida is going to get hit hard tomorrow morningx Hurricane Matthew is expected to strengthen to CAT 4.

  4. grim says:

    Strongest in years, and hitting a location that has rarely been hit before.

  5. SilverLining Cloud says:

    On yesterday’s topic of H overdoses, well here’s today’s NY Times.

    As Drug Deaths Soar, a Silver Lining for Transplant Patients
    By KATHARINE Q. SEELYEOCT. 6, 2016

    After a year on a waiting list, Rita Lottie received a liver transplant from an organ donor with hepatitis C. Credit Alexandra Hootnick for The New York Times

    BOSTON — The surge in deaths from drug overdoses has become an unexpected lifeline for people waiting for organ transplants, turning tragedy for some into salvation for others.

    As more people die from overdoses than ever before, their organs — donated in advance by them or after the fact by their families — are saving lives of people who might otherwise die waiting for a transplant.

    When Dave and Roxanne Maleham got the call in June that they had long dreaded — that their son, Matt, 38, was on life support after overdosing on heroin and fentanyl — they talked about donating his organs.

    “We were trying to think if we could draw any good out of this tragedy,” said Mr. Maleham, pastor at Union Congregational Church in Union, N.H.

    Matt, as it turned out, had already registered as a donor on his driver’s license, which came as an enormous relief, almost a gift, to his parents. His donation reminded them of their son’s generosity and good-heartedness, qualities that his addiction had sometimes obscured.

    “It absolutely turned things around for me,” Mrs. Maleham said. “Finding out that with his death someone else could benefit was such a joy.”

    The impact has been striking, especially in a region like New England, which is in the grip of a heroin and opioid epidemic.

  6. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @AndyHarless

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
    is for good men and women in swing states
    to cast protest votes.

  7. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @seanhannity

    @megynkelly u should be mad at @HillaryClinton
    Clearly you support her.
    And @realDonaldTrump did talk to u.

  8. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @guardiannews

    ‘Trump only goes on Hannity’:

    Megyn Kelly clashes with Fox News colleague

  9. SilverLining Cloud2 says:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
    is for good men and women in swing states
    to cast Clinton votes.

    Clintons’ are like the Zisa’s in Hackensack. The Police Chief a Zisa, got caught trying to protect his girlfriend from a DWI. Got sentence to probation, has appealed left and right for the last 7 years and he’s about to get his job back.

    Since he has been away Hackensack has progressed and become more democratic. If he returns, his machine and old ways return. Same thing with the Clintons. They have been there before, they know where the loots is buried and make sure their skeletons are still buried well.

    Trumpy is what he’s. But he has destroyed the old foolish GOP and by winning will vanquish the Clintons to the Bushes’ purgatory. Trump won’t be able to do much damage because he’s against the corporate state which controls both dems and GOP. The only thing he’ll do is to make sure no stupid neo-con middle east wars.

  10. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @TheStalwart

    Obama’s approval rating at highest level in 7 years and
    initial jobless claims are lowest in four decades.

    America’s at the boiling point.

  11. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @business

    Jobless claims in U.S. decline to
    near-lowest level
    since 1973

  12. Mc Box says:

    Ratings in for NFL ESPN games down 19% Monday Night Football 10% how long before they kick Kaepernick? He is already cost them several years worth of his salary.

  13. Joyce says:

    I don’t feel the need to post every single passing thought I have like you and your buddy who you pretend to argue with… just like if I make a comment that criticizes someone or something, doesn’t meant I agree with “the other side”

    Fabius Maximus says:
    October 6, 2016 at 12:22 am
    Joyce

    yet you have no comment

  14. Ottoman says:

    Well Clinton is certainly welcome to inspire the approximately 40% of people who never vote to come out for her on Election Day. Then all the folks who don’t like her track record of killing and imprisoning brown and black people wouldnt matter.

    NeverTrump (the good one) says:
    October 6, 2016 at 7:50 am
    @AndyHarless

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
    is for good men and women in swing states
    to cast protest votes.

  15. Ottoman says:

    The fact that you believe anything trump says is proof of your ignorance.

    Trumpy is what he’s. But he has destroyed the old foolish GOP and by winning will vanquish the Clintons to the Bushes’ purgatory. Trump won’t be able to do much damage because he’s against the corporate state which controls both dems and GOP. The only thing he’ll do is to make sure no stupid neo-con middle east wars.

  16. chicagofinance says:

    Holy sh!t….it finally made the paper…..I’ve been talking about this one for 4 years….
    http://nypost.com/2016/10/06/special-annuity-for-teachers-cost-nyc-taxpayers-a-whopping-1-2b/

  17. lost says:

    I think Trump can do real damage. Anyone that spews nonsense lies on a regular basis is very dangerous. His supporters believe anything he says. So when he starts yelling and screaming that the election is fixed anytime he is losing, he is playing with major fire. If he loses, how do we know that a bunch of his supporters don’t start rioting on the basis that the election is fixed? If these people had any ability to think for themselves, they would realize how stupid trump sounds when he claims it’s fixed. If it’s fixed, how the hell did he hijack the republican party nomination for president? It’s far from fixed, and he needs to stop spewing nonsense like this. He is the primary evidence for why it’s not fixed.

    He has a few good ideas, like the elimination of the hb1 visa program. On the other hand, the majority of his ideas will hurt the economy more than it helps.

    “Trumpy is what he’s. But he has destroyed the old foolish GOP and by winning will vanquish the Clintons to the Bushes’ purgatory. Trump won’t be able to do much damage because he’s against the corporate state which controls both dems and GOP. The only thing he’ll do is to make sure no stupid neo-con middle east wars.”

  18. NJGator says:

    Seen on 7th Avenue this morning: beggar holding sign that says “Give me $1 or I’ll vote for Trump.”

  19. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    I thought there was going to be rioting at the Republican convention. The Bernie supporters came the closest at the Dem convention. And they didn’t even have a horse in the race.

    I spoke to a major Dem fundraiser last night. One of those bleeding heart liberals who rationally understands that both sides are essentially the same when it comes to supporting the income gap. Well I told him that I would donate $1,000 to the Clinton Foundation the moment Hillary does anything that would limit Goldman’s profit making ability in any way, shape, or form. He told me my checkbook was safe. We both agreed that 2020 is D day for the Republicans and that Pence or similar should run away with it barring a wildly successful economy under Clinton. That is what he is afraid of. This is a guy who thoroughly understands the purchasing favor game as he is deep in it. You get a lot of favor when you host $1,000 plate dinners in your home in Montclair for Hillary. If you can’t afford the entrance fee, well then you can watch her on TV talk about how she is going to help the middle class.

    2020 can’t come soon enough!

  20. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    What does President Obama and Hurricane Matthew have in common?

    They both couldn’t close Gitmo.

  21. Fast Eddie says:

    If he loses, how do we know that a bunch of his supporters don’t start rioting on the basis that the election is fixed?

    Why wait? I wish it would start now. Everybody wants their entitlements but nobody wants to exercise responsibility. How much more do we stretch for the layabouts before someone fights for us?

  22. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:
  23. grim says:

    The fact that you believe anything trump a politician says is proof of your ignorance.

    Fixed it.

  24. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    lost [10:22];

    >I think Trump can do real damage. Anyone that spews nonsense lies on a regular basis is very dangerous.His supporters believe anything he says.If he loses, how do we know that a bunch of his supporters don’t start rioting on the basis that the election is fixed?If these people had any ability to think for themselves, they would realize how stupid trump sounds when he claims it’s fixed…It’s far from fixed, and he needs to stop spewing nonsense like this.He is the primary evidence for why it’s not fixed.< Nom's theory aside, Hillary had no dog in the GOP primary, so that one wasn't fixed by her. She is running in the general, hence the margin of fraud comes into play.

    I'm continually amazed by the lack of self-awareness when I read these obviously campaign-authored talking points rants about Trump which describe all of Hillary's wart to a "T". If the things you're complaining about really disqualify a candidate, how on earth can you support Hillary?

  25. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Tagging problem above; reposting in full

    lost [10:22];

    I think Trump can do real damage.

    OK, Let’s review.

    Anyone that spews nonsense lies on a regular basis is very dangerous. That would be Hillary.

    His supporters believe anything he says. Hillary again.

    If he loses, how do we know that a bunch of his supporters don’t start rioting on the basis that the election is fixed? Its Hillary supporters (Black Lies Murder) who are rioting now. Did you miss the Dem primaries where BLM harassed Bernie, but didn’t say a peep at any Hillary event?

    If these people had any ability to think for themselves, they would realize how stupid trump sounds when he claims it’s fixed…It’s far from fixed, and he needs to stop spewing nonsense like this. Didn’t the DNC email dump establish the Dem primary was fixed? Who should we beleive, you or our own lying eyes?

    He is the primary evidence for why it’s not fixed. Nom’s theory aside, Hillary had no dog in the GOP primary, so that one wasn’t fixed by her. She is running in the general, hence the margin of fraud comes into play.

    I’m continually amazed by the lack of self-awareness when I read these obviously campaign-authored talking points rants about Trump which describe all of Hillary’s wart to a “T”. If the things you’re complaining about really disqualify a candidate, how on earth can you support Hillary?

  26. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Fab…responding to your bitter pill comment from last night. Buying political favor is not a partisan issue. But denying the true purpose of the Clinton Foundation and it’s inherent conflict of interest is, how is it best to describe? Deplorable? Two wrongs don’t make a right. The Clinton Foundation is the easiest way ever to purchase favor. It is intentionally not focused to make the purchase of favor more accessible to anyone that can afford it. Plain and simple, our government has always been for sale. It just has never been this easy. And best of all, it’s now tax deductible! And you are OK with this.

  27. NJGator says:

    “The board also made a notable change in the schedule, canceling classes for Election Day, November 8, with many schools already serving as polling places. Citing the wackiness and the divisiveness of the presidential campaign, board member Laura Hertzog and Board President Jessica de Koninck were afraid that the election could pose security concerns affecting the students. Board member Joseph Kavesh, meanwhile, said that he expected one of the candidates to receive 95 percent of the vote in Montclair and didn’t think divisiveness between supporters of the candidates would matter. He was alone; the board voted 6-1, with Kavesh dissenting, to have Election Day off for the students. ”

    http://baristanet.com/2016/10/montclair-board-of-education-workshop-meeting-full-plate/

  28. Juice Box says:

    re: election day school closing. They are closed for the NJEA convention as well.

    Our schools are closed the entire week for Fall Recess aka NJEA convention on Nov 10th and 11th. Ya think they could have the convention in the Summer when the weather is actually nice in AC, but accrording to the NJEA should be forced to work two extra days for free so they say….

  29. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Chi…that annuity is brilliant. I am not surprised that after the financial crisis, when everyone should have been going full hog into the market, public educators were transferring their wealth into fixed income. I can only imagine how much opportunity they lost. Though disgusted by this perk available to them, the taxpayer should be more upset over the lack of financial acumen these teachers exhibited (only the brightest and best). How much more will their collective boneheaded decision cost the taxpayers when they have to make up for the traditional pension shortfall that will develop from people not being in it when the market came back! I suppose, they can look at what happened in NJ when the state chose not to contribute during the bad times (and the good times too) for a clue.

  30. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    I’ve been down in AC for the NJEA convention a number of times. Very few teachers attend and those that do hang out in the casinos mostly. And they gamble terribly, I might add. Want to see the best poker players on the East Coast? Go to any poker room in AC during the convention.

  31. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    I’ve been down in AC for the NJEA convention a number of times. Very few teachers attend and those that do hang out in the casin0s mostly. And they gamble terribly, I might add. Want to see the best poker players on the East Coast? Go to any poker room in AC during the convention.

  32. lost says:

    All they did was throw their support to Hillary, which is not allowed. In reality, they didn’t fix anything. Bernie never had the support. So how was it fixed? I’m not defending democrats, I’m just pointing out the truth.

    “If these people had any ability to think for themselves, they would realize how stupid trump sounds when he claims it’s fixed…It’s far from fixed, and he needs to stop spewing nonsense like this. Didn’t the DNC email dump establish the Dem primary was fixed? Who should we beleive, you or our own lying eyes?”

  33. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joyce,

    You are constantly in here posting on Government ans Law Enforcement, overreach and constitutional violations.

    You were very vocal on the alleged voter fraud in the story but ignored the overreach and violations with the voter suppression. So yes, your no comment is noted.

  34. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lib,

    Would removing the Clinton Foundation remove the pedling of influence and money?Would the same not just go to lobbyists, PAC’s and re-election funds. At least here I see some good coming out of it. If it was signed over to Bill Gates, would you be happier? Would that take the money out of politics?

    Pick your poison?

  35. lost says:

    I’m talking about “nonsense” lies. This guy regularly pulls sh*t out of his ass and then double downs on the nonsense he is spewing. Then out of nowhere he switches his stance. He is a complete loser that has no basis being a leader of a country. If he gets elected, we will be the laughing stock of the world. Why would you want that?

    Had a friend go to canada for the hockey world cup. A Canadian stated to him, “wtf are you guys doing down there, you are starting to scare us.” He was referring to trump. Btw, my friend is a trump supporter, and it made him think.

    “Anyone that spews nonsense lies on a regular basis is very dangerous. That would be Hillary.”

  36. Fabius Maximus says:

    NJEA, I thought they called that Disney Week?

    With schools and election day, your are going to see more of this. It seems that more and more schools are turning into bunkers where they lock and barricade the buildings.
    Our school reception is more like a bank these days. It has a pass-thru drawer by the main doors. If your kid forgets lunch, the receptionist can see you through the armored plate glass and you can drop the item into the drawer. It means that she does not have to open up the shiny new reinforced steel doors and let an unauthorized adult into the school.

  37. Fast Eddie says:

    If he gets elected, we will be the laughing stock of the world. Why would you want that?

    I’ve been asking that question for the last 8 years.

  38. chicagofinance says:

    you have children? hopefully you don’t have custody…..

    Fabius Maximus says:
    October 6, 2016 at 11:58 am
    NJEA, I thought they called that Disney Week?

    With schools and election day, your are going to see more of this. It seems that more and more schools are turning into bunkers where they lock and barricade the buildings.
    Our school reception is more like a bank these days. It has a pass-thru drawer by the main doors. If your kid forgets lunch, the receptionist can see you through the armored plate glass and you can drop the item into the drawer. It means that she does not have to open up the shiny new reinforced steel doors and let an unauthorized adult into the school.

  39. Megyn Kelly is the embodiment of the word that chi-fi doesn’t like.

  40. grim says:

    Are you f*cking kidding? Didn’t we learn our lesson with ex-Goldman employees already?

  41. D-FENS says:

    Wierd….I find myself agreeing with Ottoman.

  42. D-FENS says:

    He’s our next Governor.

    As you can plainly see from our presidential election you can literally have people whacked…and so long as you have a D next to your name in NJ people will vote for you.

    grim says:
    October 6, 2016 at 12:10 pm
    Are you f*cking kidding? Didn’t we learn our lesson with ex-Goldman employees already?

  43. Anyone that spews nonsense lies on a regular basis is very dangerous.

    unless they are a Democrat or MSM on-air personality.

  44. D-FENS says:

    Early voting in FL thus far:

    Trump +16.4%
    (Romney was =+4%)

  45. NJGator says:

    Fabius – When Glen Ridge decided post Sandy Hook that voting while schools were open was a security risk, they moved the polling places out of the schools and kept the schools open for the day. Problem solved. Montclair parents are pissed because the BOE decided to add another day off to a week that already had 2 days off with only 4 weeks notice. It’s not like they didn’t know about election day when they made up the school calendar.

    And GR schools also don’t allow parents to drop off forgotten items except for eyeglasses or medication. Graydon and Ellery can eat school lunch and take a zero on their homework.

  46. Joyce says:

    I posted two links accompanied by a three word question. Anything else you want to imagineer into existence?

    Fabius Maximus says:
    October 6, 2016 at 11:41 am
    Joyce

    You were very vocal on the alleged voter fraud in the story

  47. No One says:

    I’m absolutely certain that the next US president will be a disaster for the country. There are no good options, only somewhat less bad choices. I’ll vote for Johnson because I couldn’t bear to vote for the other two. Even though THC and age has clearly dulled whatever sharpness he once had, at least he’s not a psychopath, like Ds & Rs have nominated.

  48. walking bye says:

    Speaking of guns in school. I remember back in the late 70’s we had a reenact or form the revolutionary war come in with a rifle. He couldn’t understand why all the boys in 5th grade would laugh every time he said “so I take my musket ball and load my rifle”

    Which led to someone asking him how big his musket balls were.
    ahhh good times.

  49. Juice Box says:

    re: “I’ll vote for Johnson”

    I would keep my eyes on the sky for the drone strike if I were you.

  50. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joyce,

    As I said, if you don’t want to comment on the overreach and voter suppression. Fine, duly noted.

  51. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    “If it was signed over to Bill Gates, would you be happier?”

    Absolutely. Then it couldn’t influence policy. Why in the world would anyone donate to a Clinton Charity unless they expected something in return from it. What can Bill and Melinda do with taxpayer money? That’s right. They don’t control taxpayer dollars. Huge difference. I have voted for major party candidates only twice in my life. Clinton the first time and Obama the first time. I knew where they both came from. I naively thought they might represent us. Game over for the Dems. HRC will win this election. She will lose in 2020. Anyone want to wager on it? I would put my money up right now.

  52. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    If one wants to see immoral voter fraud, study Clark County Nevada in the Dem primary.

  53. D-FENS says:

    CNN reported:

    The Hillary Clinton campaign requested Thursday that The Weather Channel delay airing its campaign ads until Hurricane Matthew passes.

    “Earlier in the week we made changes to our TV ad reservations across hundreds of stations in several battleground states including Florida,” Jesse Ferguson, a Clinton spokesman, said. “Less than 1% of those changes included The Weather Channel. We have requested that stations in Florida delay any of those ads on the Weather Channel until after the storm passes.”

    Clinton’s decision to air ads on The Weather Channel as attention shifted from the 2016 campaign to the approaching hurricane sparked some criticism from Republicans, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

  54. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    “The Hillary Clinton campaign requested Thursday that The Weather Channel delay airing its campaign ads until Hurricane Matthew passes.”

    It’s simply amazing what passes for news today.

  55. Joyce says:

    Fabius… you need to learn what certain words mean before you use them. I’ll let you have the last word.

  56. joyce says:

    nice investigation

    By Amanda Lee Myers
    Associated Press

    LOS ANGELES — Police officers who shot and killed men in two separate weekend shootings were justified in their use of deadly force because they feared for their lives, the Los Angeles police chief said.

    A group of people protested outside Beck’s news conference, chanting, “No justice, no peace, no racist police.” Three were arrested for unlawful assembly after refusing orders to leave police headquarters and take their demonstration to a public street.

    The protesters rejected the police department’s description of the shooting and called on them to release the video if they have nothing to hide, something Beck said was being considered but could only happen when all the evidence has been collected and analyzed.

  57. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Test

  58. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Stuck in filter hell.

  59. chicagofinance says:

    I did not realize it was the main front page headline….
    http://nypost.com/cover/10445900/

    chicagofinance says:
    October 6, 2016 at 9:37 am
    Holy sh!t….it finally made the paper…..I’ve been talking about this one for 4 years….
    http://nypost.com/2016/10/06/special-annuity-for-teachers-cost-nyc-taxpayers-a-whopping-1-2b/

  60. Joyce says:

    Also Maine GOP primary last time around
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pngwcQQW5bA

    STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:
    October 6, 2016 at 2:59 pm
    If one wants to see immoral voter fraud, study Clark County Nevada in the Dem primary.

  61. I wonder if someone got their thumb on top of Drudge. Hillary stories have been tailing off to nil.

  62. grim says:

    Pray for Fl.

    The storm surges they are talking about are catastrophic.

  63. Essex says:

    Unreal – What are we talking Grimmmm?

  64. Joyce says:

    Isn’t the Nyc special teacher annuity the same thing as th me crazy generous DROP plans available to cops? (Not sure if any jersey towns have them)

  65. grim says:

    11 feet?

  66. Mc Box says:

    Our family members down there in Vero Beach evacuated towing their boat behind them, it is their prized possession the house is still under water by a hugh margin finacially and it will be litterally under water on friday.

  67. Mc Box says:

    Here is a quote from NBC news.

    “People do not seem to get it and are not leaving,” Martin County Sheriff William D. Snyder told NBC News. “I’m not saying this to be theatrical. … I asked my captain of detectives if he had body bags, because if we get 140 mile-per-hour winds in mobile home parks, we are going to have fatalities.”

  68. Fabius Maximus says:

    Drudge is a little busy at the moment.

    MATT DRUDGE ✔ @DRUDGE
    The deplorables are starting to wonder if govt has been lying to them about Hurricane Matthew intensity to make exaggerated point on climate

  69. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lib

    So then Bill stops doing deals? Bill’s not in it for the money. Its not like he is siphoning off cash from the foundatioon to pay legal settlements or Pie O My portraits. The cash will still flow to the foundations and the PACs and its BAU. The deals will get done.

  70. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joyce,

    Last word. I see your posting Law and Order posts as usual.

  71. Fabius Maximus says:

    Pence is turning into Baghdad Bob!

    Well because it’s not Donald Trump’s position now.”

    Pence says Trump no longer wants a Muslim ban

    Trump running mate Mike Pence this morning told CNN that Trump no longer supports a ban on Muslims entering the US but wants a ban on immigrants “from countries compromised by terrorism.”

    Even before Tuesday’s debate, a large part of Pence’s job had become to describe Trump’s policies and views as less extreme than the candidate has described them (see the lengthy Sunday show footage of Pence taking questions about whether Trump still wants a “deportation force”).

    “We’re going to suspend immigration from countries compromised by terrorism,” Pence says.

    CNN’s Chris Cuomo does a good job of pushing him: “But governor that is a finessed position,” Cuomo says, pointing out that Pence strongly condemned Trump’s call for a Muslim ban back when he was supporting Ted Cruz.

    “You condemned those comments. Why do you not condemn them now?”

    Pence laughs, as if no questions could be sillier. “Well because it’s not Donald Trump’s position now.” Ha. Ha.

  72. Essex says:

    Looks like S. FL dodged a bullet!!

  73. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Too some extent, FL will do better than we did in Irene/Sandy. There will be casualties I would bet. But Florida is built for much of this stuff. They’ll lose power and lots of trees. But no one has a basement in FL.

  74. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @DPRK_News

    US senator Ted Cruise suffers tortures of the damned,
    being put to brutal and inhuman work as the base and wretched slave of Donald Trump.

  75. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @vanillaice

    This hurricane is serious and coming right at me.
    I’m going to ride out the storm.
    I’ll keep you updated

  76. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @WSJ

    U2’s Bono skewers Donald Trump on stage,
    mocking his boasts about his wealth and his wall

  77. grim says:

    a1a beachfront avenue

  78. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    “When the last tree has been cut down,
    the last fish caught,
    the last river poisoned;
    only then we will realize that one cannot eat money.”

    In solidarity with the Colombian people

    @AP
    BREAKING: Santos dedicates Nobel Peace Prize to people of Colombia “who have suffered so much in this war.”

  79. 1987 Condo says:

    Jobs Report: +156,000
    UE: 5.0
    Earnings +.2

  80. Taste of ClintonPres says:

    From the Record Today. This is the local equivalent of a Clinton in office.

    The city has begun paying nearly $3 million in court-ordered compensation to former Police Chief Ken Zisa after a judge dismissed the sole remaining criminal conviction against him in August.

    Zisa, who at one point faced five criminal charges related to his tenure as chief, no longer has any charges against him. With the final charge dismissed in August, he is entitled to receive $1.7 million in lost wages and benefits and $1.1 million in legal fees.

    Related: Judge dismisses remaining criminal charge against ex-Hackensack police chief Zisa

    The city and Zisa have agreed to spread the payments over a three-year period, with the first partial payment of $659,000 issued this week, spokesman Phil Swibinski said in a press release. The remaining payments are expected on Jan. 10, 2017, and Jan. 10, 2018, Zisa’s attorney Patricia Prezioso said.

    “In effect, the city is paying him what the city owes him,” Prezioso said. “It’s a straight-up calculation of what he was owed.”

    Zisa said that the $1.7 million was the result of calculations of his salary and benefits during the time when he was facing charges or serving time under house arrest as a result of them.

    “My intention at this point is to retire, if that’s possible financially,” he said. He said his goal was to retire with the full benefits and pension awarded to a police chief.

    “I think it would be impractical to return as chief after a six-year absence if we are able to complete the final arrangements with the city of Hackensack,” he said.

    Whether the city should be liable for Zisa’s legal fees is under review, Swibinski said, since the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office, under the supervision of the state attorney general, oversaw Zisa’s arrest and trial.

    Mayor John Labrosse expressed anger at Zisa and the legal system.

    “This man and the rest of the Zisa political machine have nothing but greed and contempt for Hackensack taxpayers. The level of damage that they have done to our city is tragic,” he said. “The way that this entire matter was handled by our legal system is extremely disappointing. Clearly there is no justice for taxpayers.”

    Responding to Labrosse’s statement, Prezioso cited three judicial decisions critical of Zisa’s prosecution.

    “It is a shame that the mayor would choose to politicize this,” Prezioso said. “These harsh words about my client have been replete in the media over the last six years and are a reflection of what now has been judicially determined to have been an unfair prosecution.”

    Zisa surmised that Labrosse had not read the court decisions, and should do so “before making those kinds of political attack statements.”

    In 2012, a jury found Zisa guilty on five criminal counts, but Judge Joseph Conte dismissed three of the charges, leaving only insurance fraud and official misconduct. In 2015, a state appellate court overturned the insurance fraud charge, and in August, Judge Susan Steele dismissed the official misconduct charge.

    The misconduct charge stems from a 2008 incident in which Zisa, who then was police chief, was accused of improperly removing his girlfriend at the time, Kathleen Tiernan, from the scene of a car accident by driving her away before she could submit to a sobriety test. The first officers to respond to the scene reported smelling alcohol and observing drunken behavior, prosecutors said. Steele’s 110-page brief determined that one of the prosecutors in Zisa’s 2012 case intended to cause a mistrial because the state’s case against Zisa was weak.

    She dismissed the charge on the grounds that to retry him “violates his constitutionally protected right against double jeopardy and principles of fundamental fairness.”

  81. Juice Box says:

    I bet that money will be deemed tax free too.

  82. Juice Box says:

    and counted towards his pension. What is he gonna end up with a $175k a year pension?

  83. Juice Box says:

    I work with an ex-FBI agent, who left the agency recently.

    He says this is absolutely true, the agents are POed.

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/06/fbi-agents-are-ready-to-revolt-over-the-cozy-clinton-probe/

  84. NJGator says:

    Juice – I think I’m going to throw up now.

    “My intention at this point is to retire, if that’s possible financially,” he said. He said his goal was to retire with the full benefits and pension awarded to a police chief.

  85. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Zisa…just another example of how we are rapidly descending into becoming a third world country. This is the sh1t that goes on in Central America.

  86. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Ever want to know how much the benefits cost for public servants? Look at that 1.7 million figure. How many years is this for? Four?

  87. lost says:

    It’s truly disgusting, but let’s not make this guy the norm and apply it to all. It’s truly unfortunate that you have individuals like this abusing the system, but you honestly can not apply this to the majority. This guy is clearly in the minority and only an extremely small percentage get away with this garbage. You have over 500 municipalities in nj, and you will only find this in a few places. This guy was a part of a huge political machine in hackensack and not the norm.

    STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:
    October 7, 2016 at 10:45 am
    Zisa…just another example of how we are rapidly descending into becoming a third world country. This is the sh1t that goes on in Central America.

  88. chicagofinance says:

    Did I hear correctly that the engineer of 1614 had the train at 10 mph before gunning it open throttle into the bumper?

  89. chicagofinance says:

    NTSB said it was only reporting data and would take a year to give a reason why….

  90. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    But why do we accept this? I can only imagine the number of favors this d1ckhead gave while chief to afford this lack of justice. Joyce is right. Our justice system is a fukcin’ disgrace.

  91. chicagofinance says:

    Dedicated to Eddie, Turd and Nom:

    From: NJ TRANSIT Customer Service
    Date:
    Subject: NJ TRANSIT Acknowledgement of Complaint – Case –

    Dear x,

    —–Feedback Description—–

    Once again you idiots let the 6:33 train leave Newark just as a large number of us ran up the stairs to catch this train.

    I truly hope the people responsible for this horrible customer service suffer miserably for this constant and intentional abuse of Raritan Valley Line customers. I don’t care if they are NJ Transit or Amtrak employees. They are offensive human beings that don’t deserve the jobs they hold.

    You make DMV workers nationwide look good. You are the epitome of horrible government workers who are completely unresponsive to your customers’ needs. Calling you brain dead would be an insult to patients in a persistent vegetative state.
    —————————————-

    Feedback is reviewed Monday through Friday between the hours of 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. (excluding major holidays) and will be processed in the order it is received. If your matter requires immediate attention, such as weekend travel information or Lost & Found, please call our Transit Information Center at 973-275-5555 between 8:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. to speak to a live operator.

    Sincerely,
    NJ TRANSIT Customer Service Team

    Please note this is an automated response and replies cannot be processed.

  92. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Told you the engineer had a stroke. And the new policy where a conductor must enter the control room at each terminus? Come on now. Should be fun when the loco is at the front of the set. Everyone, we will be stopping outside of the station so a ticket taker can make the dangerous walk from car 2 to the loco to cover for our lack of willingness to install safeguards. Rest assured, our pensions are safer than your commute.

  93. lost says:

    With all the enemies Clinton has, why would they just let her off like this? Not making sense to me. There is no one on the conservative side willing to go after her? You are telling me Clinton or the democrats control the fbi behind the scenes? Not buying it.

    Juice Box says:
    October 7, 2016 at 10:13 am
    I work with an ex-FBI agent, who left the agency recently.

    He says this is absolutely true, the agents are POed.

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/06/fbi-agents-are-ready-to-revolt-over-the-cozy-clinton-probe/

  94. chicagofinance says:

    From: NJ TRANSIT Customer Service
    Date:

    Subject: NJ TRANSIT Acknowledgement of Complaint – Case X –

    Dear x,

    —–Feedback Description—–
    At least once a week, I miss the connection at Newark Penn on my way home from NY Penn. The missed connection happens because you run the train late out of NY. Instead of holding the Raritan train, your dispatchers let it leave on time. Are they clinically retarded or willfully abusive? We suffer the indignity of having to transfer during rush hour. Then you make us suffer again by letting the connecting train leave when it would be easy to hold her train a few minutes because YOUR TRAIN FROM NY IS LATE!!! Stop managing the connection for a the sake of inflating your on-time stats to the detriment of your customers. Of course, you don’t care about customers because you’re government employees who just spit at the people who pay your salaries. You people are disgusting examples of humanity (or lack thereof).
    —————————————-

    Feedback is reviewed Monday through Friday between the hours of 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. (excluding major holidays) and will be processed in the order it is received. If your matter requires immediate attention, such as weekend travel information or Lost & Found, please call our Transit Information Center at 973-275-5555 between 8:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. to speak to a live operator.

    Sincerely,
    NJ TRANSIT Customer Service Team

    Please note this is an automated response and replies cannot be processed.

  95. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    “The new rule’s implementation on Wednesday afternoon came as a surprise to Stephen Burkert, the general chairman of a union that represents New Jersey Transit conductors.

    “They’re looking to have a safer railroad, which I fully agree with,” Mr. Burkert said. “Safety is always first for my members and the riding public.”

    But, he added, the rules will require more work for conductors.

    “What it technically does is put more job responsibility on the conductor, besides what they had to do yesterday,” he said. “You have effectively doubled the work responsibilities for the conductor.”

    Can we just pull the plug on our country right now?

  96. BTW, many, if not all, train engineers do that. They get their breaks at the ends of their runs. If they get to the end of their run 5 minutes late they get 5 minutes less break. If they get to the end 10 minutes early, they get 10 minutes more break.

  97. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Lost…everyone wants a promotion.

  98. Last night I heard on the radio that he entered the yard at 8 mph, was going 21 mph at impact and activated the emergency brakes just before impact.

    Did I hear correctly that the engineer of 1614 had the train at 10 mph before gunning it open throttle into the bumper?

  99. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    I commuted into Hoboken for most of my adult life. The trains never come in faster than 10mph once they approach the old train wash. In most cases, they pull in at about 5mph. NJTransit simply does not want to accept responsibility for their POS rail system. I’ve seen a lot of poorly run public sector entities. None come close to NJ Transit. They make bad decision after bad decision with such regularity that nothing surprises me with them anymore. From letting 1/3rd of the new passenger stock flood during Sandy, to designing the now suspended new tunnel with no improvement of the Portal bridge, to routing less and less trains to Hoboken intentionally sacrificing our commute times to try to get the new tunnel built. Then add the giant waste of money the Secaucus transfer represented and their original plan to not even allow a park & ride there. The list of boneheaded decisions there never ends. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I’ve developed some online relationships with a few conductors over the years including Josh from clever commute. He quit due to all of this and decided to try to develop technology on his own to make up for NJ Transits lack of care. He wrote the Clever Commute app. I’m sure, while collecting a handsome pension.

  100. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Lost. Look how quiet all of Christie’s closest friends were until Trump chose Pence. Since then it’s been a non-stop barrage of he knew about Bridgegate as it was occurring. But not until these corrupt morons were sure Christie wouldn’t be in a position of power in DC.

  101. Juice Box says:

    No deadman switch on the throttle of a NJ Transit Train?

    Here is a video of NJ Transit in action, fast forward to 4:50 and then to 8:45 the conductor can take is hand off the throttle and the brake and the train does not slow down by itself.

    This is insanity. I will never ride on a NJ Transit train ever again.

  102. lost says:

    Spirit of self preservation is strong with these individuals. No idea how they sleep at night.

    STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:
    October 7, 2016 at 11:32 am
    Lost. Look how quiet all of Christie’s closest friends were until Trump chose Pence. Since then it’s been a non-stop barrage of he knew about Bridgegate as it was occurring. But not until these corrupt morons were sure Christie wouldn’t be in a position of power in DC.

  103. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    I read somewhere (not sure if it’s true), but the newer trains don’t have the dead man’s pedal anymore. Supposedly, because the engineers hated them.

  104. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    They now have a dead-man’s vigilance device. You’ve heard it if you sit up front in the first car. It sounds an alarm and the engineer must press a button within 20 seconds or the train will stop on it’s own. It’s possible this wouldn’t have helped in Hoboken. A dead man’s pedal would have helped as it works immediately.

  105. 1987 Condo says:

    I guess the brilliance of 1974’s Taking of Pelham 123 was lost ..as they had the “deadman’s switch back then…

  106. Fast Eddie says:

    Lost…everyone wants a promotion.

    And a pony. I want a f.ucking pony!

  107. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @paulkrugman
    Remember, they were exonerated on the basis of scientific evidence
    — the same kind of evidence that supports global warming.
    Rigged!

    .
    @JohnJHarwood
    Trump tells CNN he still considers Central Park 5 guilty:
    “They admitted they were guilty. police in original investigation say they were”

  108. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @chrislhayes
    This is the problem with a person who,
    under no circumstances,
    will ever admit to being wrong.
    And will never apologize

    @JohnJHarwood
    Trump tells CNN he still considers Central Park 5 guilty:
    “They admitted they were guilty. police in original investigation say they were”

  109. 3b says:

    Jeez!! All this jersey bashing!! Christie, ziza Hackensack, pensions, nj transit. You know if pumps was still here he would set you all straight! Nj is great we are next to ny!! Everybody wants to live here!! Stop bashing jersey!!! This is just a blip!! Jersey is coming back!! Stronger and better!!

  110. NevertheSouth (the good one) says:

    All this jersey bashing!! Christie, ziza Hackensack, pensions, nj transit.

    You know – Nj is great we are next to ny!! Everybody wants to live here!! Stop bashing jersey!!! This is just a blip!! Jersey is coming back!! Stronger and better!!

    Move to the south. Ample land, cheap housing, no taxes.

    Move, move to the south!!!

  111. 3b says:

    Yeah!! And we have some of the highest taxes in the nation and we are still falling apart!!! Maybe no taxes is the answer!!!

  112. D-FENS says:

    Gas tax passed the NJ senate. On to the assembly.

  113. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Joyce,

    Maddow? Really? I feel like I’ve been Rick-rolled.

  114. You can look at this a different way, but its just as bad. They held back all of that hoping Christie got added to the ticket. Either way the stories hit the airwaves when Clinton says so, and everyone gets paid for participating.

    Lost. Look how quiet all of Christie’s closest friends were until Trump chose Pence. Since then it’s been a non-stop barrage of he knew about Bridgegate as it was occurring. But not until these corrupt morons were sure Christie wouldn’t be in a position of power in DC.

  115. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    This is the problem with a person who,
    under no circumstances,
    will ever admit to being wrong.
    And will never apologize
    is named Joe Biden.

    https://youtu.be/BoAQjjvgWjs

  116. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:
  117. Brazilian Butt Lift says:

    Grim – S&P Case Shiller data has New York metro condo values blasting through 2006 peak. Latest reading shows values are 15% above 2006 peak level. Media and housing commentators continue to ignore this data. Maybe they owns houses or rent apartments and are priced out of condo market forever and don’t want acknowledge this condo data exists.

  118. Brazilian Butt Lift says:

    Thejordanhoboken.com

    Named after that guy who used to live in the neighborhood and told everybody how smart he was to sell his Hoboken condo in 2002. According to the S&P Case Shiller data that condo has doubled in value since smarty pants Jordan sold it.

  119. Essex says:

    Jacksonville Beach looks like it topped 17′ storm surge – wow.

  120. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @laurenduca

    If @realDonaldTrump thinks fame entitles him to grope women
    (literally: “grab them by the pussy”)
    what does he expect from being President??

  121. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @BBCBreaking

    Donald Trump apologises after a video tape emerges showing him making lewd comments

  122. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @ezraklein

    Also, remember Trump had this conversation
    *while wearing a mic and talking to a TV host*.
    It’s insane.

  123. NeverTrump (the good one) says:

    @AndrewKirell

    Predictions
    “A genius at puzzy grabs”-Rudy
    “A dutiful man, taking woman to shop”-Falwell
    “He didn’t say that”-Pence

  124. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    OFF TOPIC ALERT: Real Estate!

    6 Ridge Hill Way Holmdel NJ 07733

    I haven’t seen many faker pictures than those.

  125. I love trump says:

    Amen, the conspiracy talk is insane

    “Hillary Clinton is not the lesser of two evils. She has never been. When one examines the facts, there is no contest between Clinton and Trump. Donald Trump has a real rap sheet that should disqualify him from being president. Hillary Clinton’s “crimes” are conspiracy theories that have been cooked up by the conservative media’s anti-Clinton conspiracy cottage industry that has spent decades as a robust source of profit for conservative authors and media.”

    “The idea that Hillary Clinton is the lesser of two evils is a lazy media narrative that was created by corporate mainstream talking heads only interested in false equivalence to keep ratings and interest up during an election. It would take too much effort for the media to discuss the fact that Clinton’s approval ratings are a byproduct of decades of Republican attacks on her last name combined with the extreme polarization of the electorate.

    2016 isn’t a lesser of two evils election. It is a base election that may turn into a rout because Republicans made the foolish decision to nominate a candidate with a closet full of evils to run against the most competent and qualified candidate to a major party’s nomination in the modern era of American politics.”

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/02/texas-newspaper-destroys-myth-hillary-clinton-lesser-evils.html

  126. Juice Box says:

    Better buy more popcorn.

    Assange has Podesta’s emails and released a few thousand today.

  127. Mc Box says:

    Wallowing in the mud…Gennifer Flowers shares a memory…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Drudge_Siren/status/784549137748549632

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