Somebody believes in AC

From the AP:

Showboat Owner Blatstein Buys Land Nearby in Atlantic City

Bart Blatstein, the Philadelphia developer who’s been buying up distressed Atlantic City properties and re-opening them, has added three more Boardwalk parcels for about $6 million.

Blatstein, who last year reopened the former Showboat casino as a non-gambling hotel, has added land nearby as part of the future development of the site.

He bought the Garden Pier across from the shuttered Revel casino, which is also near the Showboat, along with a volleyball court between Revel and the Showboat. Blatstein also bought land in the Inlet district next to a new $40 million Boardwalk repair project.

“It shows my continuing confidence in the renaissance of Atlantic City,” he said. “It’s a great opportunity to expand the holding.”

Blatstein said the parcels near the Showboat will increase outdoor uses for the site. He said the Inlet land is prime property in a redeveloping area.

“It affords even more of an outdoor element for the Showboat, and the land near the Inlet is wonderful land abutting a new $40 million Boardwalk,” he said. “It’s beautiful real estate.”

The deals closed Friday.

Blatstein has taken a contrarian stance regarding Atlantic City, rushing in while many are running out. He bought the former Pier Shops at Caesars and reopened it in 2015 as The Playground. Last year, he reopened the former Showboat as a non-gambling hotel two years after Caesars Entertainment shut down the still-profitable casino.

Blatstein said he’s still working on an overall concept for the Showboat, adding he’s not close to being ready to reveal it.

But expanding the reach of the Showboat would go a long way toward revitalizing the northernmost part of Atlantic City’s Boardwalk, which has drawn little foot traffic since the 2014 closure of the Showboat and Revel, two of the four casinos that went belly-up that year.

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115 Responses to Somebody believes in AC

  1. grim says:

    Ah sad to hear Newark Club is closing. Had our wedding there. We took over the whole first-floor lobby and the club upstairs too. They threw a fantastic party.

    The Newark Club, lofty perch of Jersey VIPs, closing after 24 years

  2. Blue RibbonTeacher says:

    The straw man here is the “illegal” immigrant.

    This is the term that I first heard in 1992 as a 12 year old. Nothing’s changed. Not the law or the problem. Do you just sit there with the leftist manual of cookie cutter responses or have you been programmed to just spout them out?

  3. grim says:

    How many of you here are actually related to illegal immigrants? Have family here illegally right now?

    I am, and have had family here in the states illegally, whether they overstayed visas, or entered entirely illegally through Mexico. We also have family and friends who my family sponsored , who were lucky enough to be able to win the lottery (literally), and come on either educational visas, or work visas, and become permanent residents and citizens.

    Enforce the law, it’s the law. You want to change policy to allow more immigration, than god speed for that. I agree with this, lets open up immigration to the most innovative, educated, and talented people from around the world. America has been stealing brainshare from the rest of the world forever, and it’s made us great.

    But do it fairly, to give ALL foreign immigrants equal opportunity (for example, eliminate the bastardization of the H1B program and establish population weighted limits by country).

  4. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I wish I had his kind of money to invest. Devalued beach property on a coast 99% filled with valuable real estate, combined with a mindset that has created blood in the streets, is an easy investment in my mind. How do you lose?

    You know what hurts; I called Newark and I’m now calling for AC to make a comeback, but I won’t make a dime. Wish I could have the network to borrow other people’s money and make this happen, but I’m just a nobody in a game built for millionaires.

    ““It shows my continuing confidence in the renaissance of Atlantic C!ty,” he said. “It’s a great opportunity to expand the holding. ”

    “Blatstein has taken a contrarian stance regarding Atlantic C!ty, rushing in while many are running out. He bought the former Pier Shops at Caes@rs and reopened it in 2015 as The Playground. Last year, he reopened the former Showbo@t as a non-gambling hotel two years after Caes@rs Entertainment shut down the still-profitable cas!no.”

  5. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Let him know, Teach!

    I’m so sick of these ideological puppets. You know what, just get rid of immigration laws, open up the boarder to anyone, and watch it all burn down. Might be the only way to get through to people like Proud Libel. They have to witness the mistake, before they understand how wrong they really are.

    Why are you advocating for illegal immigrants, when there is so much more to worry about and focus your energy on.

    Let’s face it, they can’t accept Trump as their President, so they must take up causes that don’t matter, all for the sake of protesting Trumps every move.

    Republicans did it to Obama, and now the Democrats are doing it to Trump. Same crap, over and over. Nothing ever gets done because neither side is mature enough to give a different way of thinking a chance. Same old bs, over and over again.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    February 21, 2017 at 8:15 pm
    So let me get this straight, you are worried about my dollars being stripped by the cost of deporting them. Yet, you are not worried about my dollars being stripped being forced to educate their children and pay for their healthcare with my dollars? You are only against it because it counteracts your ideological agenda…so you are now using tax dollars as an excuse.

    Personally, I say, if they are working and have no criminal record other than the illegal entry, give them clemency at a cost of $10,000. It would be as if they paid property taxes for a year.

  6. grim says:

    Plumpkin – major bloodletting at toys r us, not good for your real estate (although not surprisingly, very few people that work there actually live in the area).

  7. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    one thing is legal enforcement but i suspect that the underlying issue here is economics. look you can get rid of immigrants all you want but the fat and lazy republican will still have a hard time making it in this new brave world. developments for the high school crow in $300-400 k are forever gone. on the midtown express all new construction is in the 7 handle with 24k in taxes. open a book (i recommend rosa luxemburg) and turn off Fox News if u really care about your kids future. if you be fat and lazy you got bigger problems than immigrants as we never going back to the 50’s

    grim says:
    February 22, 2017 at 8:02 am
    How many of you here are actually related to illegal immigrants? Have family here illegally right now?

    I am, and have had family here in the states illegally, whether they overstayed visas, or entered entirely illegally through Mexico. We also have family and friends who my family sponsored , who were lucky enough to be able to win the lottery (literally), and come on either educational visas, or work visas, and become permanent residents and citizens.

    Enforce the law, it’s the law. You want to change policy to allow more immigration, than god speed for that. I agree with this, lets open up immigration to the most innovative, educated, and talented people from around the world. America has been stealing brainshare from the rest of the world forever, and it’s made us great.

    But do it fairly, to give ALL foreign immigrants equal opportunity (for example, eliminate the bastardization of the H1B program and establish population weighted limits by country).

  8. Bystander says:

    Pumpkin’s daily “belief” system can be swayed by scribblings on a crumbled up napkin.

  9. yome says:

    Nobody is getting rid of Immigrants. There are laws to be followed to become a legal Immigrant in this Country. Everyone needs to abide by the law. Remember,it is a crime to enter illegally in the US punishable by law.

  10. grim says:

    Why is everyone hell bent on stereotyping me as something I’m not? I’m first generation American. I grew up in a household of immigrants that didn’t speak English (well). I grew up in a diverse town that was largely made up of immigrants. My parents came here with absolutely nothing. I grew up with two major values, hard work and education are everything.

    This doesn’t mean I can’t be against illegal immigration. This doesn’t mean I can’t despise insular communities as being disgustingly un-American. This doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with liberal immigration policy. Most of my friends growing up were immigrants and minorities. Hispanic, Asian, Europeans, Black, whatever I don’t even remember what everyone was because it was all irrelevant to us. A good part of our day was skewering ourselves with polock, spic, guinea, and other racial jokes, and then we all sat down together for dinner, or got in parking lot fights defending each other.

    Blah blah blah blah. I know, I’m racist, elitist, segregationist, republican, conservative?

    Clearly if you don’t follow ever tenet of the liberal handbook, you are an enemy. This crop of neo-liberals seem to be as detached from reality as wealthy conservatives.

  11. 3b says:

    I had family members too and some great great friends. They too got the lottery back in the late 80’s. One in particular has done exceedingly well as in multi millionaire. I want so called immigration reform but reform it for everybody. I met many young Italians last summer in Italy who would love the chance to immigrate here.

  12. 3b says:

    Pumps 8 :17 well look at that I agree with you.

  13. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s amusing and sad. Half of this country is so detached from logic that you really have to laugh. I mean, it’s quite apparent that it has nothing to do with what they’re protesting and has everything to do with personal issues. I welcome a civil war. These oddballs will get decimated.

  14. 3b says:

    My parents immigrated here in the late 40’s. 7 months here m Dad got drafted for Korea. He had two choices go home or go to Korea. He went to Korea because if you went home and tried to come back after the war it was not happening. Of course if you suggested that today you would be called a racist.

  15. 30 year realtor says:

    Yesterday… yome says:
    February 21, 2017 at 6:14 pm
    “As I have said it is not even up for debate. It is the law and the law is clear. If you have an expired stay in this Country , you are here illegally. No but.It is about implementing the law. You do not like the law call your Congressman.”

    Not according to the president! Then you are a sad liberal activist. Trump’s FAKE DEMOCRACY! Really fcuking sad!!!

  16. 3b says:

    Grab 8:34 so only republicans are fat and lazy? No democrats? What about the people leftists claim to champion ? Are not some of them fat and lazy? It is exactly this elitist leftist grouo think that got Trump elected.

  17. 30 year realtor says:

    Gary, How can half the country be odd balls? Last I checked that half was actually more than half, just not in the electoral college. Don’t they call that the majority? Perhaps you are confusing who the odd balls are?

  18. 3b says:

    Grim I am first generation too. Hard work and education that was the drill. And love for Ametruca. As much as my parents talked of the old country and their love for it America was the promised land. My dad served his new country when asked. We lived in a blue color neighborhood predominantly Irish and Italian. It started to change over by middle of high school. My dad would not leave. My dads Jamaian neighbor would beg him to move after he left because it was no longer safe. Finally moved in late 90s. It infuriates me to have so called liberals lecture me on race.

  19. grim says:

    30yr.

    90% of this country is completely rational, sane, logical, and tempered.

    The problem is the 10% – the 5% on each end who are so loud, outspoken, and influential to politics and the media.

    The problem is the media, who have confused news with celebrity. There is no difference between Kim Kardashian, Anderson Cooper, and Milo Whateverthefuckhisnameisopolis. I don’t even know what a journalist is anymore. It used to be a job and a byline, and if you were good a pulitzer. Now? Who the hell knows.

    I travel a lot, I talk with lots of people across broad economic and racial spectrum. A solid 3/4 of America does not give a shit, they are heads down, working, and taking care of family. This is all nonsense to them.

    And yes, I can blame media and politics for dividing America without being a neocon nazi.

  20. Fast Eddie says:

    30 year,

    They’re oddballs because 50% of the country now represents nothing that I recognize, nothing that represents what my father and grandfather did to succeed and nothing I believe adds value to our nation. Compassion is not surrendering because one side wants something. You want respect? Earn it. You want a better life? Earn it. Don’t throw a fit and create violence because you’re unhappy with your plight. One side waited and then voted. Trump won. If one side is so livid then either vote or give more money or take in refugees and illegals. No one is stopping them. I don’t see a mass movement advocating this; ergo, they’re nothing but oddballs.

  21. chicagofinance says:

    20% of the food stamp program is spent on soda and candy, or the equivalent.

    3b says:
    February 22, 2017 at 9:07 am
    Grab 8:34 so only republicans are fat and lazy? No democrats? What about the people leftists claim to champion ? Are not some of them fat and lazy? It is exactly this elitist leftist grouo think that got Trump elected.

  22. 30 year realtor says:

    Grim,

    Respect and decorum are absent from politics and the media. The disconnect was the dawning of news as entertainment. CNN started the 24 hour news cycle, the networks saw profitability and got in on the act and the politicians jumped into the available spotlight and off it went.

    I do not define fake news the way the president does. Fake news is the media covering itself. Creating fodder for the mill because there is so much dead air to fill if nothing sensational is going on.

    The place I disconnect from you on the media is, a large slice of people are watching this otherwise the proliferation of sensational, biased talking heads would not continue.

  23. Blue RibbonTeacher says:

    My father’s colleague was deported about 12 years ago. She was a practicing physician who just happened to overstay her work visa. She had to go back to Canada for 2 years prior to be allowed to return.

  24. 30 year realtor says:

    Gary,

    Path to citizenship without deportation is an old GOP idea. Tolerance of those different than ourselves is a founding principal of this nation. Public education is a pillar of what has made this a great country. These are not radical ideas.

    Tweeting negatively about people speaking out to their representatives in a representative democracy is not the type of mindset that makes this country great. That huge middle that Grim referred to as being too busy working and raising their families to be engaged in day to day political/media drama is being damaged by a president who advocates against the pillars of what makes this a great country.

  25. Blue RibbonTeacher says:

    20% of the food stamp program is spent on soda and candy, or the equivalent.

    And a huge portion is spent on cigarettes and alcohol. If you talk to people who’ve worked at supermarkets out of state, where they sell both liquor and food, a lot of people have “2 orders”. One for food that is paid for with the food stamp debit card, and then the cigarettes and alcohol on the next order paid for with cash.

    What pisses me off is when idiots like Corey Booker or Gweneth Paltrow do the “food stamp challenge” and conclude they can’t survive. Meanwhile, you see they never truly food shopped on their own with a budget in mind.

    When I got married at 28 until 31, my wife and I ate on a budget of $60 a week…and we ate good high quality food. Beans, Rice, Pasta, Polenta, these things go a long long way and are extremely cheap. I bake my own bread. I make my own mozzarella and ricotta. The asian run farmers markets have the best priced produce. Pork shoulder, whole turkey, whole chickens….very economical. Leftover carcasses/vegtables always got turned into stock. Rendered fat was always filtered and saved for deep frying.

    We’ve since moved to $90 and treat ourselves better with the meats. Skirt steak, more seafood. I could easily still pull of $60 though, especially now that I’ve got 6 gardens. I’ve got 12 fig trees, 2 young apple trees, a lemon tree. These things produce very very well.

    Bottom line, if you put me on food stamps, I would post a profit.

  26. ProudLiberal says:

    >> How many of you here are actually related to illegal immigrants? Have family here illegally right now?

    I was a well-documented, legal immigrant at one point in life. But there was a period of time when I was in limbo, my paper work in progress. If I was caught with a traffic incident during that period and asked to prove my status – I wouldn’t have been able to! With current laws I could have been deported, inspite of the fact that I had young US born kids. I would have had no rights in that situation either.

    I am now a citizen and an employer and have literally paid millions in taxes.

    Giving the local cops and lower-rung of the government to decide on immigration is a yyugely bad idea!

    Also, let’s consider the law. Did you know that almost anyone can be picked off the street and the cops can make a case that they broke some arcane law or other? Sure it’s a nation of laws – but the law is very very complex.

    Here’s what I’m saying… it’s NOT as simple as it appears. The new deportation and policing of immigrants is NOT economical. It is against the very grain of Americanism. So, don’t jump on to the right-wing bandwagon and sing their song. Think.

    Also, dear teacher – if you don’t want to read history, pick up a James Michener book, maybe you will learn something of this great country that is being made un-great!

  27. ProudLiberal says:

    >> 20% of the food stamp program is spent on soda and candy, or the equivalent.

    Source? If there’s no source, it is FAKE news!

    If you want to know the real news about food stamps, visit a local pantry – make a small donation just to see who it is going to. That’s the only way you’ll get real news.. not by talking to a walmart checkout clerk.

  28. 30 year realtor says:

    Teacher,

    Many of those people on food stamps do not have access to real supermarkets or a garden. You offer anecdotal evidence and no solution. How do we feed the hungry that do not abuse the system? What about all those working poor? What about those factory workers now unemployed? Are you saying we need to start a program to offer them education in nutrition and gardening?

    What about school lunch programs and other programs that feed poor children? Are you against these programs as well?

  29. Juice Box says:

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    Yes it is.

    As I stated yesterday our Hedegmony would be better spent fixing those countries that these economic illegal immigrants come from.

    Prime example would be Mexico. The powers that be knew decades ago that Mexico’s population would double based upon high birth rates. The massive population growth is the cause of the massive amount of illegal Mexican immigrants in the USA? Aren’t there at least 8 million undocumented Mexicans are living in the USA now? This problem could have been fixed decades ago.

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, saw that. Over 250 layoffs. God bless those individuals. Hopefully they turn it around with this new strategy. Sounds like a good strategy, give a reason for people to step into your store.

    “CEO David Brandon said part of the retailer’s’ survival strategy is to make stores “fun” again, Bloomberg reported last year.

    “The biggest change you are going to see over the next year is that we want to bring our toy stores to life,” Brandon said the September 2016 report. “I want kids to be dragging their parents to our stores because they want to see what’s going on at Toys ‘R’ Us this weekend.””

    grim says:
    February 22, 2017 at 8:29 am
    Plumpkin – major bloodletting at toys r us, not good for your real estate (although not surprisingly, very few people that work there actually live in the area).

  31. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Amen!

    Fast Eddie says:
    February 22, 2017 at 9:35 am
    30 year,

    They’re oddballs because 50% of the country now represents nothing that I recognize, nothing that represents what my father and grandfather did to succeed and nothing I believe adds value to our nation. Compassion is not surrendering because one side wants something. You want respect? Earn it. You want a better life? Earn it. Don’t throw a fit and create violence because you’re unhappy with your plight. One side waited and then voted. Trump won. If one side is so livid then either vote or give more money or take in refugees and illegals. No one is stopping them. I don’t see a mass movement advocating this; ergo, they’re nothing but oddballs.

  32. Blue RibbonTeacher says:

    Many of those people on food stamps do not have access to real supermarkets or a garden. You offer anecdotal evidence and no solution. How do we feed the hungry that do not abuse the system? What about all those working poor? What about those factory workers now unemployed? Are you saying we need to start a program to offer them education in nutrition and gardening?

    What about school lunch programs and other programs that feed poor children? Are you against these programs as well?

    Never said they had to have access to a garden to pull this off. I can live off $20 a week if you want me to. There’s no excuse. Stop projecting arguments onto me. I didn’t even say I was against food stamps. And I sure as hell didn’t say I was against feeding poor children. What I was saying is that the food stamp program is more than generous and anyone that argues otherwise truly does need a lesson in nutrition and shopping.

  33. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Don’t forget the free lunch programs in school. My sister complains that it is a total waste. Yes, some kids eat it, but a lot of the fruits and milks get thrown to the ground, or worse, at someone. I thought these were starving kids? Throwing fruits and milks? So wrong.

    Moral of the story, you can’t give anything for free, it goes unappreciated. You think you are helping them, but you are really just holding them down. Handouts don’t help anyone, hard work does.

    Why should a select group of people not have to work? Wtf is that? Why should I have to bust my a$$ and do the right thing, and then hand over my hard earned money to people who do absolutely nothing all day, every day. It’s absolutely wrong.

    You want welfare, earn it by going to work cleaning up the streets and schools. Every park and street in these ghetto areas should be spotless. Teach them to not ruin their streets or neighborhoods, because they are going to be the ones cleaning it if they want that check at the first of the month.

    Why in the world people in jail are not put to work cleaning up the streets is beyond me. I would have them scrubbing the sidewalk/street with a toothbrush. Make them never want to go through this again. Not going to sit on your a$$ all day and get a free meal. F that.

    chicagofinance says:
    February 22, 2017 at 9:38 am
    20% of the food stamp program is spent on soda and candy, or the equivalent.

  34. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @business
    Trump’s immigration policies threaten to crack the residential real estate market

    ““If Trump gets the immigration plan he wants, the housing market will get hit harder than any other,” said Alex Nowrasteh, a policy analyst for the libertarian Cato Institute. If “millions of people get deported and more people don’t come in to take their place, then you’ll have downward pressure on home prices, especially in urban areas.”

    “If financing dries up and borrowers lose faith, it will mark a major reversal in the market. New arrivals are expected to account for more than a third of growth of homeowners this decade, according to University of Southern California demographer Dowell Myers.”

    “By his reckoning, the country’s 40 million immigrants add $3.7 trillion to total housing wealth. In Houston’s home county, the newcomers boosted the value of the typical home by $25,000 during the decade ended in 2010. Between 2015 and 2065, according to a Pew Research projection, future immigrants and their descendants will account for 88 percent of the U.S. population increase, or 103 million people.”

  35. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well said.

    30 year realtor says:
    February 22, 2017 at 9:42 am
    Grim,

    Respect and decorum are absent from politics and the media. The disconnect was the dawning of news as entertainment. CNN started the 24 hour news cycle, the networks saw profitability and got in on the act and the politicians jumped into the available spotlight and off it went.

    I do not define fake news the way the president does. Fake news is the media covering itself. Creating fodder for the mill because there is so much dead air to fill if nothing sensational is going on.

    The place I disconnect from you on the media is, a large slice of people are watching this otherwise the proliferation of sensational, biased talking heads would not continue.

  36. 3b says:

    30 year and many of these areas had super markets but they were destroyed during riots years ago never to return. Then the areas that have them many times have to hire security due to major shoplifting these costs are passed on to the customers and then the supermarkets are accused of gouging poor people. You can’t win.

  37. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    “A solid 3/4 of America does not give a shit, they are heads down, working, and taking care of family. This is all nonsense to them.”

    Yes it is!

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My father was deported by Obama in 2011 for crimes (organized crime) he committed in the 80s. You know nothing. My daughter has never seen her grandfather besides through skype. Yes, I’m white, so enough with the racist bs. The people like my father never make the papers. I have never read in the papers about a European immigrant being sent back. Why? Because it doesn’t sell, right?

    Btw, how come I can accept the law, and these others can’t? My father hasn’t done anything criminal since his 20’s (80s), yet was still deported. He was a caring father and grandparent that cleaned up his act, yet was still deported. Rules are rules. So what do you have to say about a democratic president that did this? How come there were no protests back in 2011? Why? I said why?

    ProudLiberal says:
    February 22, 2017 at 10:03 am
    >> How many of you here are actually related to illegal immigrants? Have family here illegally right now?

    I was a well-documented, legal immigrant at one point in life. But there was a period of time when I was in limbo, my paper work in progress. If I was caught with a traffic incident during that period and asked to prove my status – I wouldn’t have been able to! With current laws I could have been deported, inspite of the fact that I had young US born kids. I would have had no rights in that situation either.

  39. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Can’t you just show your portfolio of stock investments to potential investors? PLUG and NHMD, you need to be a real visionary to think pancake in a spray cheese container is a great idea. Hahahahahhahahahaha

    You know what hurts; I called Newark and I’m now calling for AC to make a comeback, but I won’t make a dime. Wish I could have the network to borrow other people’s money and make this happen, but I’m just a nobody in a game built for millionaires.

  40. The Original NJ Expat says:

    grim – Maybe what you meant was:

    This crop of neo-liberals seem to be as completely detached from reality as wealthy conservatives.

  41. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Should ignore you because you are obviously jealous that a 36 year old has more than you.

    I made 15% on plug trading it.

    I lost on NHMD.

    Have you won on every single investment in your life?

    When I brought up nhmd, you could have made 1000% on your money if you sold. I didn’t sell because I was a sucker who believed in the product. It happens, at least I’m man enough to admit I made a mistake. I’m not perfect, and never claimed to be.

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    February 22, 2017 at 12:00 pm
    Can’t you just show your portfolio of stock investments to potential investors? PLUG and NHMD, you need to be a real visionary to think pancake in a spray cheese container is a great idea. Hahahahahhahahahaha

  42. The Original NJ Expat says:

    And now the psychological profile is complete.

    My father was deported by Obama in 2011 for crimes (organized crime) he committed in the 80s.

  43. Grim says:

    The place I disconnect from you on the media is, a large slice of people are watching

    Well, I still have hope for humanity.

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And now you are a psychologist?

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    February 22, 2017 at 12:15 pm
    And now the psychological profile is complete.

    My father was deported by Obama in 2011 for crimes (organized crime) he committed in the 80s.

  45. The Original NJ Expat says:

    This was my clue to the Daddy issues, now we understand them a lot more. I theorized that is was daddy making the nightly kielbasa delivery that was damaging the young pumpkin brain, but given his Dad’s criminal ways, who knows who was accepting the deliveries and who was giving them? Maybe pumps grew up in a brothel of sorts.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    July 22, 2016 at 8:25 am
    Get a life.

    Your daughters still having trouble sleeping at night due to all the noise? You know that problem that comes with tiny apartments when the neighbors are fuc!ing and waking up your kids on a nightly basis?

  46. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    What’s really annoying about ProudLiberal’s positions which are frequenty echoed by the majority of his comrades on the Left is that they take a one-off unintended situation and then try to use it as an argument as to why a policy is so abhorrent. It’s akin to using anecdotal evidence to support an argument.

    Here is an example. “Did you know that almost anyone can be picked off the street and the cops can make a case that they broke some arcane law or other? Sure it’s a nation of laws – but the law is very very complex.”

    If someone is here illegally, the law says they shouldn’t be. The fact you have American born children does not complicate the law. It complicates your individual situation. And the truth is, law enforcement is not rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them any more so today than they did when Obama was in office. Why is it an issue now and why was it not an issue then. Because a lefty leader can do no wrong and a righty leader can do no right. By enlarge, there is nothing different occurring. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Semites have been subject to long customs delays since 2011. Not just since Trump took power. But it wouldn’t have been front page news in the New York Times or Washington Post let alone, even reported, had HRC won the election. But this is not fake news. Right?

    I hate to utter the oft-used statement “drinking the Cool-Ade.” But it might benefit you to actually accept that what you offer is mostly opinion backed by no evidence or at best, defined by an unintended unfortunate victim. Perhaps the family that was on vacation in the Sanctuary City of San Francisco who lost their daughter to an illegal immigrant that ICE requested be deported might not share your opinion so lightly. And there are hundreds of others like them.

    I agree that illegal immigrant are less likely to commit crimes and that Trump is deceivingly using this as one of his justifications for their deportations. But allowing illegal immigration, which is by enlarge the stated position on the left, is not providing an overall economic benefit. You want simple? It’s simply time to enforce the existing laws.

  47. Grim says:

    Media seems to be super concerned about Mnuchin’s wife’s tits.

  48. Fast Eddie says:

    Mnuchin’s wife’s tits

    Sounds like a Zappa song from the early 70s.

  49. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Ha ha.

  50. PumpkinFace says:

    “I agree that illegal immigrant are less likely to commit crimes”

    This statement has to be qualified. If you want to say illegal immigrants are less likely to commit [a certain type of crime], fine depending on the specifics. Because let’s not forget, every illegal immigrant has committed a crime.

  51. ProudLiberal says:

    @Steaming Turd,

    >>they take a one-off unintended situation and then try to use it as an argument

    There’s a term for it – “loop holes”. There’s another term “dog-whistle”. That’s what these “unintended” situations are.

    >>Here is an example. “Did you know that almost anyone can be picked off the street and the cops can make a case that they broke some arcane law or other? Sure it’s a nation of laws – but the law is very very complex.”

    This is more true to some than others. Ask any african american who’s sitting in prison for crimes he/she has not committed. According to your logic, it doesn’t bother you so it’s OK!

    >> And the truth is, law enforcement is not rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them any more so today than they did when Obama was in office.

    With the new laws signed this week.. you bet there will be more “rounding up of” people. It’s also a dog whistle for white rac1sts to go after anyone who doesn’t look like their white-privileged ass.

    >> mostly opinion backed by no evidence or at best, defined by an unintended unfortunate victim
    That’s the classic white-privilege ass talk.

    >>I agree that illegal immigrant are less likely to commit crimes and that Trump is deceivingly using this as one of his justifications for their deportations

    So far you are right. You would be better off if you left it there, however you followed that sentence with a “But…”

    >>But allowing illegal immigration, which is by enlarge the stated position on the left, is not providing an overall economic benefit.

    If it is economics… then round up the employers. How will the “illegals” make money if they are not employed? Also, if you want some historical perspective (since you and your right wing comrades seem to be lacking), read this book:
    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12659.Texas

  52. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Round up the employers too. Finally something we agree upon.

    Wow…so much flimsy defense otherwise. Ooh, my privilege. That hurts.

    “you bet there will be more “rounding up of” people. It’s also a dog whistle for white rac1sts to go after anyone who doesn’t look like their white-privileged ass.”

    Opinion, opinion. The whole country is racist. Heck, us racists must have reelected Obama so we can say that nigger word for another 4 years.

    Oh the liberal playbook is so week these days.

  53. 3b says:

    Proud how accomadsting is your land of birth to immigration legal or illegal?

  54. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Historical perspective from a fiction writer. And you think the Orange one has mental issues?

  55. Grim says:

    The term dog whistle is now banned

    I hate these nonsense buzzwords

  56. Fast Eddie says:

    Proud Liberal,

    Why aren’t you posting under your original handle?

  57. ProudLiberal says:

    >> Proud how accomadsting is your land of birth to immigration legal or illegal?

    Irrelevant.

    >> The term dog wh1stle is now banned
    >> I hate these nonsense buzzwords

    Fine. Your house. Your rules. However, there’s some truth to it. Just go down south and talk to anyone selling “Boild peenuts” on the country roads.

  58. Fast Eddie says:

    No wonder why the left is getting decimated. They lost every branch of government on the Federal level and thousands of seats at the state and local levels. Listen to their reasoning. Why debate and try to prove yourself? Just look at the damage they’ve caused. What does their party represent? Who are their constituents?

  59. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Does this make PL a dog-wh1stle blower?

  60. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    “Who are their constituents?”

    Illegal immigrants. Which is why they are so hell-bent on keeping them here.

  61. 3b says:

    Proud no it is very relevant if we as in Ameriva are being held to a higher standard than other countries. You mention white racists which is the so called liberal catch all. Meanwhile many other races are just as racist as white people but leave that out because it does not fit the narrative. For instance their are 2 countries that share one island in the carribean. The things a friend of mines brother said about one of those countries were the most shocking vile disgusting things I ever heard one group of people say about another. I was dimly dumbfounded. So again I ask you how accomadsting is your native country to immigrants legal or illegal.

  62. ProudLiberal says:

    Too fast for yourself Eddie:

    Shut up. The grown ups are talking.

    >>Just look at the damage they’ve caused.
    Damage?
    http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2016/01/ObamasNumbers-2015-Q4.png

  63. ProudLiberal says:

    BB and B,
    >> You mention white racists

    I said that for a reason. I acknowledge there are non whites that could be racists too. But it’s not about “suiting” the narrative. But it’s about who’s running the show now and the impact to America. If you don’t think Steve Bannon is a white rac1st you are too naive.

  64. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So why are you making a big thing out of what white southerners say? The same story is being played out across the globe.

    I’m a white american, let me try going to any other country in the world that won’t judge me by the color of my skin. You think in China, they won’t have anything to say about me, that they will embrace me as their own? How about India, will they embrace me as their own? How about Nigeria, will they embrace me as their own? How about Columbia, will they embrace me as their own?

    Only places in the world taking in refugees from other countries are Europe and the United States. Why isn’t anyone else stepping up to the plate? The supposedly biggest racists in the world are the only countries taking in refugees. I’m sick of hearing the disrespect for the only race actually helping other races in the world. Enough.

    “Fine. Your house. Your rules. However, there’s some truth to it. Just go down south and talk to anyone selling “Boild peenuts” on the country roads.”

  65. grim says:

    My issue with the phrase is that it doesn’t help the discussion, it’s nothing more than a scapegoat insult, and worse, an attempt to sound intelligent by those who worship the talking heads. Not to mention the fact that it’s an inaccurate analogy.

  66. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    I like the 42% increase in food stamp recipients. That’s only a positive if you’re a liberal and you want your party to stay in power. It’s quite laughable among those other great accomplishments such as bringing the solar usage from 0 to less than 1 % of our total energy usage and wind from 1 to about 4%. (golf clap)

  67. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    “you are too naive.”

    At least he admits his naivety.

  68. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Whay are Obama’s numbers from 2015? How about from 2016?

  69. Fast Eddie says:

    Proud Liberal,

    Post under your original handle.

  70. ProudLiberal says:

    @Fast Eddie,
    This is my only handle. Long time lurker here.

    @Grate Pumpkin,
    >>I’m a white american, let me try going to any other country in the world that won’t judge me by the color of my skin. You think in China, they won’t have anything to say about me, that they will embrace me as their own? How about India, will they embrace me as their own? How about Nigeria, will they embrace me as their own? How about Columbia, will they embrace me as their own?

    Looks like you haven’t traveled much.
    If you did, you will notice that you are treated better than their own, cuz a) you are American, b) you are white.
    But that will change soon, ‘cuz the Orange Turd is changing the way people look at Americans.

    @Grim – how did they treat the american white boy in Brazil?

  71. Fast Eddie says:

    But that will change soon, ‘cuz the Orange Turd is changing the way people look at Americans.

    Great! That means Illegal immigrants will stop trying to come here and those that don’t like it here, including H1-Bs, green card holders and natural born citizens can leave.

    And don’t give me the bullshit that you’re a long time lurker.

  72. ProudLiberal says:

    >> And don’t give me the bullshit that you’re a long time lurker.

    I’m sorry that you got b1tch slapped by more than one proud liberal!

  73. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s morning in America!

  74. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    I like you PL.

    You comes across as honest and moderately intelligent, much like FlabMax. It’s a shame you’re so brainwashed.

    So what’s your take on HRC? Was she going to be the savior of the middle class or was she somewhat crooked?

  75. ProudLiberal says:

    @Steamy,
    >>I like you PL.
    I am my mean self here and you like my persona?!

    >>So what’s your take on HRC?
    She’s the past. What matters now is the Turd and his followers. I just hope they don’t run this country to the ground.

    Nice try with the bait.

  76. Grim says:

    Brazil was nice – but I was fairly insulated.

    I look and act European, because of my upbringing, so I can fly under the radar in places like that. São Paulo is fairly European, and I had plenty of people assuming I was European descent Brazilian.

    I was briefed by HR – no jewelery, no watches, no cell phone in public, don’t talk out loud in questionable situations as you would be identified as American. Fun tidbits like 911 is 160, but don’t bother because you probably can’t trust the police either.

    I had a driver for any situation where I was outside the wealthy areas. We are situated in a relatively insulated area, so basically in a bubble.

    Personally, I wouldn’t go to Brazil and do the tourist thing, it’s too dangerous.

  77. Blue RibbonTeacher says:

    Personally, I wouldn’t go to Brazil and do the tourist thing, it’s too dangerous.

    oh wait, you mean everyone from South America isn’t good-natured?

  78. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    What a madhouse of a day. Whadimiss?

    I’ve always considered immigration to be an issue that radically blurred, if not outright jumped, most political lines. It is easily one of the most complex issues we face and the seemingly out of character posts only reinforces my opinion.

    PL’s first two posts actually made some sense. I thought someone hijacked his sock.
    Then he returned to usual form, if not a bit more cutting than usual. PL, if you’re reading this, I’m still waiting for your callout, b1tch.

  79. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    BRT
    ” I could easily still pull of $60 though, especially now that I’ve got 6 gardens. I’ve got 12 fig trees, 2 young apple trees, a lemon tree. These things produce very very well.”

    Damn, I’m envious. I have the land and want the same but we’ve moved so damned often, I don’t want to grow the next owner’s orchard.

  80. ProudLiberal says:

    >> Then he returned to usual form, if not a bit more cutting than usual.

    Go back to wine tasting, will ya?

  81. ProudLiberal says:

    >> Personally, I wouldn’t go to Brazil and do the tourist thing, it’s too dangerous.

    That sucks. I don’t remember Brazil being that way.

  82. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    “Nice try with the bait.”

    What bait? Was curious if you thought she was crooked? I think she was far more dangerous than Trump. But then again, I hold liberals to a higher standard which why I am so surprised by their embracing of fake news. I thought that was holy a righty thing. Boy was I wrong.

  83. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Wholly.

  84. chicagofinance says:

    is he ottoman?

  85. The Original NJ Expat says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzzWEeiUf3Y

    Sounds like a Zappa song from the early 70s.

  86. ProudLiberal says:

    I believe Ottoman left for good 3 years ago

  87. ProudLiberal says:

    >> >> Personally, I wouldn’t go to Brazil and do the tourist thing, it’s too dangerous.

    It seems like the world is building a wall around America

  88. Grim says:

    Seems like the world is hell bent on emulating the US and UK.

  89. Grim says:

    Germany, France, even populism rising in Canada now.

  90. Grim says:

    What happens to American liberals when the Nordics slam the door shut?

  91. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    Nope. America is not Donald “Grab them by the puzzy” trump

    Grim says:
    February 22, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    Seems like the world is hell bent on emulating the US and UK.

  92. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    you liberals are too much!

    Grim says:
    February 22, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    I … act European

  93. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim wielding the censorship list. I assume we still have the C word?

    “it’s nothing more than a scapegoat insult,”
    Are you putting “safe-space”, Pu$$y-hat, and pacifier, etc, etc, in fact most posts by Gary on the list as well, or is this another of your arbitary (no)Standards?

  94. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Blah blah blah blah. I know, I’m racist, elitist, segregationist, republican, conservative?”

    No, that defines you as a “Clarence”, as in Clarence Thomas. Climb the ladder and pull it up behind you. Will we see you cheering as ICE raid 990 Clifton Ave and pull the grandmas out for overstaying the visa and earning a few bucks off the books, cleaning houses?

  95. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    have been there many times. airport is a disaster with 20 or 30 international flights leaving at once and only two immigrationb windows open as they have to check your passport 3 times before boarding, there’s the interview before hitting the counter and one last time at the planes door for good measure. and friday rainy evenings is a 4 hr drive on paulista from the hotel. some barefooted locals can kill you instantly with bare hands as real men need no guns. good times, lots of cahipirioscas

  96. 3b says:

    Grab what is wrong with act like a European? I have often been mistaken for not being born in America. I was sent to speech classes when I was a kid to get rid of my accent. The schools decision not mine.

  97. 3b says:

    Fab what is wrong with following the law? Legal immigration. If we all get to pick and choose which laws we obey and which we ignore them it will all break down.

  98. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    what does that even mean really? sounds elitist, a tad sissy

    i have also been mistaken for not being American due to my very high IQ

    3b says:
    February 22, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    Grab what is wrong with act like a European?

  99. ProudLiberal says:

    >> i have also been mistaken for not being American due to my very high IQ

    That is so ‘American’ in itself

  100. ProudLiberal says:

    @Fauximus – good to know where your source of diet is.

  101. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b

    Laws are broken everyday. All those cars speeding past me on the Turnpike every morning. The difference is that the system treats people differently. Go sit in your towns traffic court and you will see some of the differences. The biggest differnce is money. I know people that have bought their visas. Came here with a big bank balance and started a company. Immigration issues, call the lawyer. Grandma may get deported straight away, the right lawyer will keep you in this country for years.
    That is the so called difference between left and right. I want to see equality for all, not laws for sale to the highest bidder.

  102. Fabius Maximus says:

    PL,

    I eat from many sources. As my grandfather said, “I’ll read anything as long as the print is big enough.” In some ways the idea of an article can give you more than the source itself.

  103. yome says:

    Is that not what you are against? Trump is speeding deportation

    “Immigration issues, call the lawyer. Grandma may get deported straight away, the right lawyer will keep you in this country for years.
    That is the so called difference between left and right. I want to see equality for all, not laws for sale to the highest bidder.

    Immigration issues, call the lawyer. Grandma may get deported straight away, the right lawyer will keep you in this country for years.
    That is the so called difference between left and right. I want to see equality for all, not laws for sale to the highest bidder.”

  104. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    “i have also been mistaken for not being American due to my very high IQ”

    I just fell off of my chair. One would think people with high IQs would know to capitalize “I” brainiac.

  105. chicagofinance says:

    Horror movie about suburban white liberals….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRfnevzM9kQ

  106. chicagofinance says:

    Grim……I’m not joking…..Poland has a populist candidate and there is even talk (empty talk?) about leaving the EU as the UK did…..

    Grim says:
    February 22, 2017 at 5:03 pm
    Germany, France, even populism rising in Canada now.

  107. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are full of it. Even in our own country, say Hawaii for example, the locals treat you differently as a tourist from if you lived there. Meaning they don’t bite the hand that feeds them. Now that’s for tourist areas. Non-tourist areas in other countries (excluding Europe, Australia, or wealthy islands)are no go zones for myself. You will get eaten alive.

    “Looks like you haven’t traveled much.
    If you did, you will notice that you are treated better than their own, cuz a) you are American, b) you are white.
    But that will change soon, ‘cuz the Orange Turd is changing the way people look at Americans.”

  108. 3b says:

    Fab that is a b.s. argument. Of people break the law every day and in every country but for most it’s a minority not the majority that breaks the law. What if we all decide to now pick and choose. With illegals we have people who are not citizens break our laws no it’s wrong but do it anyhow? What if it was the reverse would Mexico be ok if we came there illegally? As for big bank accounts well you can argue they will not be a drain on our resources and money always talks since day one. You want fair immigration so do I. Fair for everyone.

  109. 3b says:

    Grab you sound a tad sissy yourself. And condescending and arrogant. You remind me of some one.

  110. ProudLiberal says:

    @Grate P,
    >>Non-tourist areas in other countries (excluding Europe, Australia, or wealthy islands)are no go zones for myself. You will get eaten alive.

    Have you traveled to the south east? Which countries?
    Have you been to the middle east? Tell me.

    If you haven’t at the very least, watch Anthony Bourdain.. maybe you will learn something outside of this cultural bubble called U.S.A.

  111. Comrade Nom Deplume, Proudly Not Liberal says:

    PL,

    “Go back to wine tasting, will ya?”

    Craft beer tonight, b1tch

  112. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Are there any Democrat town halls going on? It doesn’t seem like the media reports on any of them.

  113. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b lets leave aside that its a civil law breach not a criminal breach. You want Mexican citizenship, live there for a few years and you’re golden.

    The bigger issue here is granting a path to citizenship. The ideal path for some would be the fast path for first world citizens. I put myself in that category, someone else paid my legal bills. But then you have to justify treatment of the rest.

    Milton Freidman had some intersting views on this. As a country you want the illegals, up to the point you actually have to give them rights.
    https://openborders.info/friedman-immigration-welfare-state/

  114. yome says:

    To enter the US illegally is a Crime. Let us talk about how illegals get their fake SS numbers. Using numbers not your own is a crime. It maybe a civil law breach for someone to overstay the visa but it becomes criminal to get SS number not your own. Or apply for a card stamped not for employment and get a fake one without the stamp with your own number and use it for employment. This are Criminal acts. Very few illegals work under the table. Expect the ones that dont, committed a crime since the employer need an SS number to pay Payroll

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