Newark is a surprisingly good fit

From Yahoo Finance:

Why Newark could be perfect for Amazon’s new headquarters

New York, San Francisco and Denver have all been heralded as the best city for Amazon’s new second headquarters, HQ2.

But what about Newark?

Yes, the city in New Jersey. The state, like many others trying to land the estimated 50,000 new jobs and $5 billion in investment, plans to submit a bid by the Oct. 19 deadline. And Newark is the state’s best chance of winning. If you peruse Amazon’s eight-page request for proposals, Newark meets all the minimum criteria outlined.

New Jersey’s largest city is accessible to tech talent (it’s home to New Jersey Institute of Technology, abuts Rutgers University, is about 60 minutes away from Princeton University, and is a brief commute from New York City’s major academic institutions), has an airport and several other transit links (train lines, interstate highways and ports), and maybe most importantly, has affordable shovel-ready sites for the eventual 8 million-square-foot, $5 billion complex that would rival Amazon’s Seattle headquarters.

“Newark has a world-class port and a depth of resources,” says Andrew Sidamon-Eristoff, former New Jersey state treasurer who wrote an opinion piece earlier this week touting Newark’s worthiness. “At the same time, it does not have the kinds of pricing pressures [real estate and living costs] that would be a barrier somewhere else.”

Amazon already has a foothold in Newark. In 2008, Amazon acquired Newark-based Audible, an online seller of audiobooks, for $300 million. It has since maintained the subsidiary’s headquarters there. In fact, Audible is redeveloping a historic church in the city for its new home.

And that’s just a fraction of Amazon’s presence in New Jersey. The company has taken more space there than in neighboring states New York or Connecticut. In the past five years, Amazon has built more than 5 million square feet of warehousing/distribution space and has 13,000 full-time employees in New Jersey, according to a report by Moody’s Investors Services.

While Newark is located north of these Amazon facilities, it could be an ideal location because it is going through somewhat of a revitalization. (In the past, Newark has been plagued by crime, poverty and high unemployment.) Some $2 billion worth of real estate development, including 2,000 units of housing, is planned or underway in the city.

Among those projects is developer Lotus Equity Group’s redevelopment of the Bears & Eagles Riverfront Stadium, which will be transformed into an 8-acre mixed-use project with office and housing.

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119 Responses to Newark is a surprisingly good fit

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. grim says:

    So does this mean NYC is out of the running?

    From Bloomberg:

    Amazon is bringing 2,000 jobs in advertising, fashion to New York City

    Amazon is bringing 2,000 jobs in advertising, fashion to New York City Amazon is bringing 2,000 jobs in advertising, fashion to New York City

    The internet giant announced Thursday that it plans to bring more than 2,000 jobs to the city over the next three years, promising to create roughly 6,000 jobs across New York state by 2019.

    Next year, Amazon will open a new office in Manhattan, which will be located aside the giant Hudson Yards development project. The company said this is all part of its “ongoing job creation efforts.”

    Amazon will take 360,000 square feet of space at Brookfield’s 5 Manhattan West.

    Once in New York City, Amazon plans to house its advertising team there, which focuses on marketing, product, design and engineering. Full-time positions are also up for grabs to work for Amazon Web Services and Amazon Fashion, the company said.

    “We’re excited to expand our presence in New York – we have always found great talent here,” added Paul Kotas, Amazon’s senior vice president of worldwide advertising.

    Meantime, Amazon is in the midst of scouting a location for its second headquarters — a search that the company announced earlier this month.

  3. grim says:

    Ironically, Kim Jung Un is both Fat Man and Little Boy.

  4. Mike says:

    And Rocket Man

  5. Mike says:

    Amazon will await Pumps opinion today before making a decision

  6. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I’ll reiterate that no one wants to move to NJ, they simply live and die there.

    Here’s another reason people don’t leave NJ: Unless you are truly famous and notable, you have zero status when you leave NJ. Do you think anybody outside of NJ knows the difference between Alpine and Rutherford? Closter and Wayne? Glen Rock and Wantage? You’re nothing but someone from Jersey when you leave. My wealthy MIL used to make hints that she might like living in Wellesley. I told her I wasn’t sure that they allow people from Jersey to move there.

    I’ll reiterate that some very wealthy people choose to make this their home so there must be some positive qualities that again cause people who can live literally anywhere choose to live here.

  7. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And 104% of them made their money living in NJ. Nobody goes movin’ on up to a Dee-Luxe CH Colonial in Franklin Lakes if they made their money outside of NJ.

    Again I know people worth in excess of 400m who spend the vast majority of their time in NJ because they want to and no they aren’t originally from here.

  8. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^Except for some stupid Manhattan men born with a silver spoon in their mouth but made the single mistake of marrying a Jersey girl. This is a rarity, because if you were raised in Manhattan you are taught throughout your life to never get involved with anyone from NJ, no matter how great the tits are.

  9. D-FENS says:

    Camden as Amazon HQ?

    http://www.njbiz.com/article/20170921/NJBIZ01/170929963/camden-approves-amazon-hq2-proposal

    Amazon’s second headquarters is seemingly the prize everyone wants to win, but Camden said it believes it has a genuine shot at attracting the multibillion dollar e-commerce company.

    This week Camden’s freeholder board voted unanimously to work with the state’s Economic Development Agency to create a proposal for Camden to be the location of Amazon’s second headquarters.

    In many ways, Camden fits the bill for Amazon’s requirements for its headquarters site, but the city’s reputation may work against its viability.

    The freeholder board boasted that Camden is located just outside Philadelphia, a metropolitan area with over 1 million residents as well as home to an international airport. New Jersey’s network of renowned higher education institutions would contribute to the appeal of basing in the state. Additionally, the EDA’s willingness to work with companies to attract them to New Jersey would contribute to the company’s desire for incentives to setting up shop in the state.

    But other intangibles, such as “cultural fit” or “quality of life” may get in the way. Camden’s national reputation is a crime-ridden city, but locals dispute that stigma and say the reputation is outdated.

    Economically, Camden has been on an upswing in recent years with over $2 billion in private investments poured into the city. If Amazon did choose to base in Camden, it would solidify the “Camden Rising” sentiment spreading across the city.

    Freeholder Director Louis Cappelli said the proposal was a serious one.

    “Make no mistake, this is not an exercise, this is a process that we and our partners are passionately committed (to),” Cappelli said in a prepared statement.

  10. grim says:

    Someone seems awfully bitter this morning..

  11. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    D-Fens always has a wild hair across his ass.

  12. Grim says:

    Camden has more large parcels of land that can easily be razed and developed. If amazon wants more than a hundred acres contiguous, it’s going to be easier to find that across the river from Philly.

  13. D-FENS says:

    I also have great tits.

  14. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I’m never bitter, btw. I’m actually laughing so much this morning. At 7:45 I asked my wife what time it was (btw, I didn’t know a priori, that’s why I asked). I then asked her if she was hungry, knowing she leaves before me at around 8:15. At 8AM she said she was leaving and I told her I thought she wanted breakfast (which I was making). I couldn’t believe she thought I asked her if she was hungry just as a poll on minor human strife, but then again, she grew up Protestant. I’ve been giggling about it ever since. I made her what some might call a “bird in a nest”, or “egg in a nest”, a fried egg in the middle of a piece of white bread. My Polish grandmother and great-grandmother used to call it “an egg with a hole in the middle” which is both funny and contrary.

    I then thought about my side of the family versus my wife’s. Nobody on her side of the family every covered someone else up with a blanket because they were chilly. I guess it was pretty normal for my wife to think I was just randomly polling her discomfort by asking if she was hungry. Makes me think of Gordon Gecko when he says, “Protestants hate people, but they love animals.”

  15. 3b says:

    Newark before Camden.

  16. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Yeah you do.

    I also have great tits.

  17. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Yeah. The largest parcel is known as “Camden”. BTW, my 1926 12 gallon flush toilet was made by Camden Pottery. It’s certainly not efficient, but it can flush the largest Pump Dump without clogging.

  18. dentss dunnigan says:

    Anyone who really believes NJ has any kind of shot to land Amazon is smoking some great stuff .The taxes in the state will squash any talk of that real quick and when Murphy becomes our next Gov …that will be the death spike for us all .People are leaving the state in droves for a reason and it’s not the weather that’s driving them out .

  19. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I post incendiary stuff on my FB page, same as here. What I find HILARIOUS is that when I post something innocuous/cute on FB how many friends come right out of the woodwork and “like” or comment before 10AM. That tells me they read all of the dangerous stuff too, and they read it every day. Early.

  20. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Speaking of minorities…Michelle Caruso-Cabrera can’t have too much shelf life left, right? I don’t care about her cup size, but her face isn’t holding up like Bartiromo on Fox Business.

  21. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BTW, Did I tell you that joyce is begging me to hire her and I’m not even hiring!

  22. grim says:

    ExPat – you should see the storm of hail and brimstone I rained down on Wayne Parents for Education FB group. Brings a tear to my eye, like the old blog days.

  23. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Watch out for Urban Club Rd families that have a vowel on the end of their names. It doesn’t happen too often, but some people go missing. It’s probably not much of problem anymore as most are empty-nesters, but some have their kids sprinkled around Wayne and their grand-kids in school.

    ExPat – you should see the storm of hail and brimstone I rained down on Wayne Parents for Education FB group. Brings a tear to my eye, like the old blog days.

  24. JJ fanboy says:

    Expat will win a Pulitzer before amazon picks Camden

  25. exjersey says:

    Hmmmm tits

  26. Phoenix says:

    ExPat,

    The Russians agree with you….

    “I post incendiary stuff on my FB page, same as here. What I find HILARIOUS is that when I post something innocuous/cute on FB how many friends come right out of the woodwork and “like” or comment before 10AM. That tells me they read all of the dangerous stuff too, and they read it every day. Early.”

  27. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Isn’t it great that tits and cunt are not banned words? Definitely a pro-Trump blog;-)

  28. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And I guess we’ll find out soon enough that Russians “meddled” with the FISA court too.

    The Russians agree with you….

  29. grim says:

    We use the Australian or British definitions of cunt here, not the American one.

  30. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Is this guy just the walking definition of cuck, or what?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0m6Rxm9vU

  31. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    fanny – this word would never be allowed in the UK, where they don’t have free speech. You could be jailed. Seriously.

  32. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fanny

    UK, Australia, NZ. Fanny= puzzy
    Silly yanks, fanny= bum
    They do seem to have a lot arse about. Even funnier when a girl says “i’ll stick that in my fanny pack” which does make for a lot of shocked faces.
    I piss myself laughing when that show “the nanny” comes on, at the start the song goes that she got kicked out and landed on her “fanny”, ouch, how unfortunate.

  33. Phoenix says:

    A Good American
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4065414/

    “And I guess we’ll find out soon enough that Russians “meddled” with the FISA court too.”

  34. Phoenix says:

    Ok, so he was off by a few years….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWm03wYBTbM

  35. Phoenix says:

    What is going to happen to the 49B debt owed to the retirement plan in NJ?

    This has to be one of the things going to affect long term home ownership in NJ.

  36. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    On my list now. Thanks Phoenix!

    A Good American
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4065414/

  37. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BTW, Here is my simple formula for finding good movies that intelligent people will enjoy watching:

    Look at Oscar nominees for Best Adapted Screenplay. When you run out, you’re going to need to endure subtitles.

  38. joyce says:

    What percentage of people in that retirement plan stay in NJ when they retire?

    Phoenix says:
    September 22, 2017 at 10:19 am
    What is going to happen to the 49B debt owed to the retirement plan in NJ?

    This has to be one of the things going to affect long term home ownership in NJ.

  39. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BTW, Who doesn’t think that the GE commercial with the little girl inventing automation and robots and eventually programming robots at GE is the best commercial ever?

    Right now there are only two commercials I truly love. One is the above, and the other is “The Dumbest Guy in Your High School Just Got a Boat”. Polar opposites, but I love them both!

  40. Juice Box says:

    I am not sure but I think I was banned from Facebook back in 2012.

  41. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    joyce – like I told you via email and also when you called me on my phone (rude, btw), we don’t have a place for a mouthy old broad like you. Just move away to wherever old people go.

    What percentage of people in that retirement plan stay in NJ when they retire?

  42. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And Pumpkin wasn’t, even while sporting man-tits in his profile picture? That doesn’t seem fair.

    I am not sure but I think I was banned from Facebook back in 2012.

  43. Juice Box says:

    Is Clot coming back too?

  44. Phoenix says:

    I don’t believe I am a big sucker for conspiracy theories, but that 4th plane in Shanksville, PA….

    1. Middle of nowhere. Happened to be near there and visited the site shortly afterward. Place was sanitized. Locals said fighters flying around at the same time.

    Caught with pants down for other 3 planes. I would think by the last one they had time to figure out the plan and arm at least one fighter jet.

    “Lets Roll”, not denying it happened (group that got together) A great story of heroes -ties the whole thing up very easily.

    As for the rest of it, who knows. Maybe this:

    “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” Hanlon’s razor

  45. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Clot will never re-emerge here. He will be a huge TV star, making Bill O’Reilly look like Megyn what’s-her-blood-type. Ask me how I know. Hint: I’m his executive producer.

  46. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I had a good, good friend, on that flight. I don’t buy any of that sh!t. I have a feeling that the families were told, or kind of told and the “let’s roll” narrative was kind of an apology to those families.

    I don’t believe I am a big sucker for conspiracy theories, but that 4th plane in Shanksville, PA….

  47. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    My friend was portrayed in the movie.

  48. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    There’s a guy in a black suit at my front door. Back in a minute.

  49. Guy in Black Suit says:

    Everything is all right folks, don’t worry about Ex-Pat. He’s safe and sound in our possession.

    By the way, yeah – that Cabrera chick, she hit the wall hard as her estrogen has dried up…. I figured that is why Ricky Ricardo got a red head from Buffalo instead of another cubana.

  50. Phoenix says:

    I don’t know the figure and don’t want to speculate.
    Debt is debt. All I read is everyone moaning about their taxes.
    This is what happened ten, twenty, thirty forty, fifty, sixty, seventy years ago.
    So they did not pay in. They did not balance. Now you are 49 billion in debt, you show up at the teller and say “pay me.”
    Money has to come from somewhere in order to support these retirees. What happens when the younger generation cannot pay the debt that the older generation left them with?
    I guess there will be many foreigners with money who will swoop in and buy swaths of American real estate.
    This is not my scope of practice, I would love for someone who’s scope of practice it is would be able to tell me what is going to happen when the fat lady sings.
    Either taxpayers pony up the cash, or retirees get checks that bounce. The tapering off of the entitlements began way to late for this to be a smooth landing. I believe we have entered the coffin corner and there is not much room to maneuver now.
    I wish I had chosen finance instead of the career I am in.
    September 22, 2017 at 10:27 am
    What percentage of people in that retirement plan stay in NJ when they retire?

  51. leftwing says:

    If I were in a position of power that day it would have been no-brainer.

    Two towers and your military HQ hit. Certain knowledge of one more punch coming.

    What are you going to do, execute the logistical impossibility to evacuate anything of symbolic and real value in the midAtlantic – WH, Capitol, NSA, etc – to try to empty them so you can have a front row seat to the destruction of one with and ideally limited associated casualties? Or send an air-to-air missile up the arse of a commercial airliner flying over an empty cornfield and take the certain death of only 40 individuals as an acceptable trade-off?

    Test question in an intro level philosophy/ethics course. Easy answer.

    Not being a conspiracy theorist, just a cynic.

  52. Phoenix says:

    And Pumps,
    I’ve seen many things fail catastrophically.
    Bolts that snap.
    Aorta’s that rupture.
    Marriages that implode.
    Tires and tubes that suddenly pop.
    Normally calm people that snap and attack.
    Close friends that become enemies.
    Space shuttles that explode.
    Stock markets that crash.

    The foundation under NJ is not very solid in my opinion (from common sense, not a PhD) which I try to think I make a balanced judgment from listening to both sides. It could be that I may be a slightly bit pessimistic vs optimistic due to life experiences.

    This is coming from a guy who has had a W2 his whole life, great credit score and both professional and non-professional careers.

    I’m the first one to admit I am not perfect, but I keep trying to learn every day.

    One theme seems to recur more and more often about almost everything. It is all smoke and mirrors…..

  53. Guy in Gray Suit says:

    The big questions are:

    – Is it Medicare for All and the boogie man of medical expense is transferred over to Fed Tax paid/withheld/ Capital Gain Tax paid/ withheld column OR otherwise Medicare/Social Security as we know it will soon disappears.
    Which means, every old locust generation baby boomer will be selling their house to pay for food and medical expenses and the rope to hang themselves.

    – How soon and how rocket man get taken care of? Which means no more Samsung/LgG/Huinday/Kia anything. Which means factories have to be moved somewhere back to the US. The end of this globalization expansion.

    The above 2 are the big unknown variables. Their answer will then affect everything.
    Example. Medicare for All. NJ State Government and others can operate as is, the big expense of retiree healthcare disappears. Likewise, the Korean peninsula becomes a radioactive mess. Amazon’s HQ does not matter, factories will have to be built and manned somewhere else = jobs, jobs,jobs = less pressure on social issues.

  54. JJ fanboy says:

    I think clot is now a rising YouTuber called gunsnchickenstrips

  55. Troll Feeder says:

    Seriously think Ex Pat needs a welfare check. Perhaps there is a methlab in a neighboring apartment fuming this mania.

  56. D-FENS says:

    Also check out his “long pig” recipes blog.

    JJ fanboy says:
    September 22, 2017 at 11:51 am
    I think clot is now a rising YouTuber called gunsnchickenstrips

  57. grim says:

    Flying to Mexico next Wednesday, hope this thing stays the hell off the coast.

  58. 3b says:

    Some believe we don’t need to worry about it. It will magically address itself.

  59. grim says:

    At any sign of direct aggression, NK will attempt to vaporize SK in retaliation. They would also attempt a first strike on Japan, which would probably fail miserably.

    This, is a given.

    I’m not so sure China cares so much about this. Suspect not.

  60. D-FENS says:

    It’s over folks. Obamacare is here today. McCain says he won’t vote for the repeal bill.

  61. D-FENS says:

    today = to stay

  62. Juice Box says:

    lol “Get out James Comey — you’re not our homey”

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/22/politics/james-comey-howard-speech/index.html

  63. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phoenix,

    Don’t worry about the debt, trust me. Do you understand that the fed has done the impossible? They have the entire financial world support a fiat currency that gives this currency supreme stability. It’s insane, but at the same time beautiful for us as citizens of this currency. Those debts will be taken care of through inflation.

    The writing on the wall for nj’s pension debt was when they took away the cola from the pension retirees. Inflation will come for that value, don’t you worry.

  64. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Are pigs flying? You finally understand Pumpkin’s position on nj. It’s the playground for the NYC rich looking for a value and some escape from the madness of NYC. To say the rich are fleeing nj is comical….it really is.

    Only people fleeing nj are the ones that can’t afford it. If you are complaining about property taxes, you don’t belong here. Harsh, but truth.

    “I’m still trying to determine who is more deeply unhinged and unhappy expat or pumpkin. They seem to be polar opposites but both rather extreme in their views. To pumpkin NJ is the most amazing place on earth(it’s not but it is a good place to make money) and to expat it is a barren wasteland no one wants to live in. I’ll reiterate that some very wealthy people choose to make this their home so there must be some positive qualities that again cause people who can live literally anywhere choose to live here. To some living in NYC 24/7 would be too much, not enough peace and quiet, your not trapped in suburban town so that argument holds no water, people live in these places partially because they are devoid of commercial enterprise and they never have to see a neighbor. Again I know people worth in excess of 400m who spend the vast majority of their time in NJ because they want to and no they aren’t originally from here. Yes pumps is right if you are rich and a golfer NJ country clubs are fantastic. Pumps is simplistic in his analysis but expat dislikes NJ because he isn’t rich. The rich are alive and well here and aren’t necessarily running to the exits(at least not YET).”

  65. The Great Pumpkin says:

    In response to opening article:

    The writing is on the wall. I’d almost bet my life on Newark getting the HQ and getting to brag about turning Newark/nj around. It’s coming.

  66. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Newark hands down best value in small/mid tier city America. It has insane transportation infrastructure in place, lucrative location, and awesome demographics to support the gentrification of the area.

  67. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Complete and utter bs.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    September 22, 2017 at 6:55 am
    I’ll reiterate that no one wants to move to NJ, they simply live and die there.

  68. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It always is. Just the nature of the beast.

    “One theme seems to recur more and more often about almost everything. It is all smoke and mirrors…..”

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Taxes….right. Just like cali, Boston, wash, and Oregon.

    dentss dunnigan says:
    September 22, 2017 at 8:45 am
    Anyone who really believes NJ has any kind of shot to land Amazon is smoking some great stuff .The taxes in the state will squash any talk of that real quick and when Murphy becomes our next Gov …that will be the death spike for us all .People are leaving the state in droves for a reason and it’s not the weather that’s driving them out .

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Nearly 40 percent of the state’s households now have incomes of $100,000 or more, while one in eight has reached the $200,000 threshold.”

    http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2017/09/14/nj-household-incomes-up-4-percent-2016/661708001/

  71. abeiz says:

    Where does Hunterdon Co. money from? Is this Phily money? Or is it those office parks I see on 202 corridor?

    Thanks.

  72. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The writing is on the wall. I’d almost bet my life on Newark getting the HQ and getting to brag about turning Newark/nj around. It’s coming.

    Nothing can turn Newark around. The entire school district is setup for the leeches in the educational establishment (aka consultants and construction firms) to bleed the system dry, no matter how much money pours in. Zuckerberg’s 100 million dollar donation vaporized almost immediately into the pockets of the politically connected.

  73. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Don’t worry about the debt, trust me. Do you understand that the fed has done the impossible? They have the entire financial world support a fiat currency that gives this currency supreme stability. It’s insane, but at the same time beautiful for us as citizens of this currency. Those debts will be taken care of through inflation.

    “But in the meantime, you’ve wrecked the country with these kinds of deals”

    – Ross Perot

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  75. Phoenix says:

    Pumps, it’s not what you make its what you spend..

  76. Fabius Maximus says:

    I have to say I owe Eddie Ray an apology. There is someone else who would put that dumb plan in place.

    http://planbmarine.com/

    Can we have a live feed of the boats so when the SHTF we can see who actually gets on the boats? And the looks on the faces of the ones paying when they see their boat was hotwired.

  77. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Very true. But you are talking to the wall.

  78. D-FENS says:

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  80. Eat My Schwartz says:

    Shouldn’t we just get ahead of this and pass a federal law that mandates all darkies get on their knees when we play the “get down on your knees, darkies” song?

  81. Eat My Schwartz says:

    BTW, if they are kneeling on their own…what sane white man wants to force them to “rise up”? “That’s cool, have good time down there.”

    Now how do we trick the Asians into squatting and the Hispanics into lying down and taking siestas?

  82. Juice Box says:

    Chi you son of a B*******

  83. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ChiFi is still asleep. He has an algorithm that can read your keystrokes, delay your post, and post it as his own minutes before. He’s a smart cookie.

  84. Juice Box says:

    re: “He has an algorithm”

    Yeah sure he is busy writing an algo, more like he was up all night crying because there are no New York area tour dates.

    http://www.depechemode.com/tour

  85. Juice Box says:

    Discuss…..

    Social activism at work. How well will that go over in Corporate America?

  86. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Social activism goes over just fine…as long as you are on the right side of the equation. See the most recent hoopla at Google. If you even suggest to not talk politics at work, you will be labeled a bigot by someone.

  87. Juice Box says:

    Blue… They actually celebrate disruption in Silicon Valley as long as it does not affect the bottom line or IPO, you can bet Google’s reputation is now tarnished and it may cost them.

  88. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Has anyone ever listened to Bill Gross’s podcast? It’s not really that good or worth a listen because Gross, certainly a genius, is well past his prime. What is entertaining though, is that there is a FULL FOUR MINUTES of Janus disclaimer following his 8 minute podcast! I’m not kidding! four minutes!

  89. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BRT – Still long ARLP? Remember not to be a Pumpkin pancake in the can man.

  90. Juice Box says:

    A number of African American NFL players stood for God save the Queen written during the slave days and then take a knee for their own anthem? Don’t they know their ancestors were victims of England’s slave voyages sent by the descendants of this Queen Elizabeth made mainly from English ports?

    Liverpool: 5,300 slave voyages to Africa
    London: 3,100 slave voyages to Africa
    Bristol: 2,200 slave voyages to Africa

  91. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    They don’t know what a Columbus Clipper is.

  92. Juice Box says:

    ugh…..ancestors is what I meant anyway.

  93. Phoenix says:

    Steelers smart. Will be in locker room for the national anthem. No wins for either side. Good job by the owners to eliminate the problem.

  94. Comrade Nom Deplume, lowering the average IQ of MA and PA today. says:

    This whole kneeling thing is a tempest in a teapot.

    When the shooting starts, we will know where people lie.

  95. Juice Box says:

    re: “Good job by the owners to eliminate the problem”

    Yes they are cowards…..

  96. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Walking around downtown crossing in Boston right now. Ever since they pass the marijuana law in Massachusetts, this area has become really trashy

  97. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    I disagree. It is a football game. An activity. In fact, why say the National Anthem at a sporting event anyway, it is a private owned business activity. I don’t say the National Anthem when I go to work.
    Maybe the teams of people who work on Wall Street should say the National Anthem before the opening bell. They should do that for the privilege of making millions in America.

    “Yes they are cowards…..”

  98. Phoenix says:

    Beware of the Butterfly effect. Should be interesting as this works it’s way to college and high school football and other sports…

    Comrade Nom Deplume, lowering the average IQ of MA and PA today. says:
    September 24, 2017 at 2:24 pm
    This whole kneeling thing is a tempest in a teapot.

    When the shooting starts, we will know where people lie.

  99. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Yes still long and collecting 10 percent

  100. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix they are cowards, don’t have the ceremony invite woinded veterans etc then not show up.

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  102. Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn't Tom Brady says:

    Tom Effing Brady!!!

  103. Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn't Tom Brady says:

    Phoenix.

    It’s already started.

  104. nwnj3 says:

    Sure, Trump threw gas on the fire. No better or worse than Bama’s comments about “cops acting stupidly” or “if I had a son”. If Kerr and the rest weren’t saying the same thing at the time they’re phonies.

  105. nwnj3 says:

    What nearly all of the progressives fail to acknowledge, or perhaps admit, is that Trump is the reaction to, and not the cause of political divisiveness. 50 years of the Democratic party milking identity politics and it’s blowing up in their face spectacularly.

  106. Fabius Maximus says:

    nwnj3

    Trump took an oath and here he advocated punishing a citizen for exercising his 1st amendment rights. If that doesn’t disturb you then that’s more surprising.

    Why Trump is here? At this time it’s a moot point. The reaction to him and issues like this from those that did not vote for him again is moot as that reaction is expected.
    T is not sustainable. He is under 40% approval and I don’t see how that needle moves up. If you don’t believe that that needle needs to move up, that again is disturbing.

    At this point mainstream GOP is backpedaling. Where is the greatness Gary promised me? All three houses under GOP control and Jack Sh1t getting done. Yea, remind me again, “its all the Dems fault!”

  107. nwnj3 says:

    Dummy, there is no constitutional protection of speech at the workplace. Wouldn’t it be great to walk into to work and tell everyone that a segment of your customers are and oppressing you(despite enjoying a privileged lifestyle) and you want to protest them? Let me know how that goes idiot.

  108. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Back in the 1990s, it was thought the internet would be the “death of distance.” Since employees could work from almost anywhere, they would move to cheap, low-tax cities, fleeing the costly, congested, overtaxed coastal enclaves of California’s Bay Area, New York and Boston.
    In fact, as Enrico Moretti, an economist at the University of California, Berkeley, notes in his 2012 book, “The New Geography of Jobs,” the opposite happened: The wealthiest cities have pulled further ahead while the laggards have fallen further behind. The divergence has grown since the last recession.”

    Why Amazon Needs Some Cities More Than They Need Amazon – The Wall Street Journal
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  109. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Understand, 3b?

  110. The Great Pumpkin says:

    F!ck Amazon, how do we take advantage of what Newark and nj have to offer? Let’s make some real money.

  111. Fabius Maximus says:

    Juice,

    Standing for a foreign anthem is just diplomatic and polite. Should they stand for Spain, Portugal, France, Germany?

    So what players are people calling to be fired? Are the Giants fans giving up OBJ for the Tommie Smith Salute?

  112. Fabius Maximus says:

    nwnj3

    With the CBA’s in place they don’t need constitutional protection. No one is getting fired.

  113. nwnj3 says:

    Wrong again. There is no right to protest in the CBA. The owners didn’t want the fight so they allowed it to metastasize. Now they have to deal with the repurcussions.

  114. exjersey says:

    Trump is pandering. Pure and simple. He’s an oaf.

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