January MarketNews

From Otteau Group:

This topic has caused quite a stir, with some forecasters predicting ‘Armageddon’ and that the ‘The Sky is Falling’! Contrary to these claims, our analysis indicates that most existing homeowners and homebuyers in New Jersey and New York will realize a net tax savings under the new tax code. Even more surprising is that those who will be adversely affected consist primarily of high-income households in the luxury home market.

As with all major policy changes there will be winners and losers, but the big picture is that the housing market will remain viable in the years ahead. The hysteria that has ensued due to misinformation is however likely to cause home sales to be sluggish during the early part of 2018 resulting in a delayed Spring-Surge. Because of this, Right Pricing! marketing strategies are more important than ever in the coming months to offset this adjustment as normal marketing times lengthen and unsold inventory increases. Looking ahead, while home sales are expected to regain their footing by late Spring once the facts about the tax reform become known, rising mortgage interest rates will serve to limit the number of home sales in 2018. All of this is likely to result in fewer home sales in 2018 following last year’s record breaking performance.

Over the longer term, the changes to the tax code will have some adverse effects on local housing markets by weakening the financial incentives of home ownership and reinforcing out-migration patterns for people and businesses from high tax states like New Jersey and New York. But these are largely self-induced problems rooted in policy that will take years to address. In the short term, the local housing markets will remain viable and home prices are expected to continue to rise.

After two consecutive months of increases, home purchase contracts in New Jersey were basically unchanged in December. This is compared to a 4% increase one year ago in December of 2016. Despite a stagnant end to the year, purchase contracts in New Jersey hit a 12-year high in 2017, with 115,237 contracts recorded. This reflects a 5% increase compared to the 109,471 home sales that occurred during 2016. It is anticipated, however, that the hysteria that has ensued due to misinformation on the Tax Reform is expected to cause sluggish home sales in the early part of 2018 resulting in a delayed Spring-Surge. Looking ahead, home sales are expected to regain their footing by mid-year once the facts become known, but it is also likely that mortgage interest rates will rise faster in response to continued economic growth. All of this is likely to result in fewer home sales in 2018 following last year’s record breaking performance.

While the number of home sales has increased across all price ranges in 2017, the largest gain occurred for luxury homes priced over $2.5-Million, rising by 11%, while homes priced under $600,000 experienced the smallest increases. It’s important to note that home sales in excess of $2.5-Million are increasing for the first time in more than a decade. The improvement has however been primarily concentrated in towns with direct rail service to Manhattan.

Shifting to the supply side of the equation, the supply of homes being offered for sale remains constricted, which is limiting choices for home buyers. The number of homes being offered for sale today in New Jersey has fallen to its lowest point of the past 12 years, having declined by 5,000 over the past year. This is also about 40,000 (-55%) fewer homes on the market compared to the cyclical high in 2011. Today’s unsold inventory equates to 5.0 months of sales (non-seasonally adjusted), which is lower than one year ago, when it was 5.8 months.

Currently, 17 out of New Jersey’s 21 counties have less than 8.0 months of supply, which is a balance point for home prices. Essex County has the strongest market conditions in the state with 3.0 months of supply, followed by Middlesex, Hudson, Somerset, Bergen, Passaic, Morris and Union Counties, which all have 4.5 months of supply or less. The counties with the largest amount of unsold inventory (8 months or greater) are concentrated in the southern portion of the state including Cumberland (9.3), Atlantic (9.3), Salem (10.1) and Cape May (12).

Sales of residential real estate in New Jersey rose to $38.3-Billion in 2017, which is a 10%increase from the prior year. Also noteworthy is that this was the highest residential transaction volume since 2005. Single family dwelling transactions accounted for the largest share in 2017 with $29.5-Billion in sales or 77% of all transactions, followed by Condo/Townhouse properties, which accounted for 19%, and Age-Restricted dwellings, which accounted for only 4%.

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192 Responses to January MarketNews

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. grim says:

    Perhaps Murphy should be more concerned about the exodus of millennials?

    N.J.’s future is bleak if another 1 million millennials leave

  3. Juice Box says:

    Grim link does not work

  4. Very Stable Genius says:

    @pelberg
    Obama 2010 SOTU – 48 million
    Bush 2003 – 62.1 million
    Bush 2002 – 51.8 million
    Clinton 1998 – 53.1 million
    Clinton 1994 – 45.8 million
    Nielsen sent this info out yesterday lol

    .

    @realDonaldTrump
    Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history. @FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!

  5. grim says:

    Why is Pelson’s tweet missing the Nielsen data from 7 of Obama’s 8 SOTUs?

    http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2018/viewers-watch-president-trump-s-state-of-the-union-2018.html

    Put it in the context of all SOTU in recent history, and it was fairly well viewed.

    Suspect Trump misunderstood the Nielsen data, not the most viewed, but most social interactions.

  6. AJ says:

    Yeah, Clinton’s SOTU didn’t draw very many tweets.

  7. grim says:

    Just to be clear here, I think both sides are idiots in this regard.

    The president, for being focused on irrelevant self-promotion.

    The opposition, for screaming bloody murder about Nielsen ratings.

  8. AJ says:

    Curious, does Nielsen do anything to capture internet viewership? The SOTU was watchable from pretty much every news website.

  9. nwnj says:

    Happy FISA memo release day. Mueller investigation collapse is imminent. Democrats, liberals and progressives all lose their minds simultaneously. MAGA nearing completion.

  10. grim says:

    It’ll be heavily redacted, three words won’t be blacked out. Republicans will scream smoking gun, democrats will scream treason.

  11. chicagofinance says:

    You might, but how about your own? You cannot seem to transcend a deep seated bias. It pollutes everything you post. You are not intellectually honest.

    You are unwelcomed in this country. Not because you are inferior, unfamiliar or dangerous, but rather that you rail against a system that is central to your good fortune. It is a form of self-loathing, but you project it on us.

    You are a rapist, and decry men who pursue women aggressively.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    February 1, 2018 at 12:01 am
    And I get partisan politics.

  12. Nwnj says:

    It’s another issue where trump flipped the script. Democrat Party is now the party of secret police and political prosecution. They don’t respect liberty or transparency as long as it accomplishes their political goals.

  13. grim says:

    Remember the core issue here.

    Trump claimed he was wiretapped during the campaign.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/trump-obama-wiretap-tweet/index.html

    He was ridiculed for saying it.

    Now, it’s clear that he was wiretapped.

    The irony of this, is that a secret government department wiretapping an opposition candidate during the election – is straight out of the communist KGB playbook.

    Who is Russia now?

  14. Nwnj says:

    Progressives are destroyers, don’t ever forget that.

  15. Nwnj says:

    It rang true at the time. Bama weaponized much of the executive branch. That was plain to see. Though I am surprised the proof will see the light of day.

  16. Fabius Maximus says:

    “The opposition, for screaming bloody murder about Nielsen ratings.”

    No they are complaining that the President is lying again.

    O’s other 7 numbers are not really required to show that Donnies number wasn’t Biggley.

  17. Fabius Maximus says:

    Nwnj.

    Which memo are we getting. The one approved by the committee, or the doctored one that went to the White House.

    #TaintedPresidency

  18. Grim says:

    How do you know when a politician is lying?

    When it opens its mouth.

  19. Nwnj says:

    Fab, what happened to justice delayed is justice denied? Let Schiff release what he wants and let people come to their own conclusion. Enough delay tactics.

  20. 3b says:

    Those millennials are losers let them go! It’s obvious they can’t make it here in the state of NJ.

  21. Juice Box says:

    Secret courts secret police secrets secrets secrets. Nothing can remain a secret in this day and age.

  22. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Now, it’s clear that he was wiretapped.”

    Was he? or was it one of his staff based on the fact that Page was talking to the Russians.

    Where their wiretaps in Trump Tower? Almost certainly. Where they pointed at Donnie. I would say not. There are a lot of “Bad Hombres” living in that building.

  23. Juice Box says:

    Coworker son went to the University of Arizona., after graduation got a job nearby working for some engineering firm to be close to the campus and his friends that are still in school. He will never go back to Jersey. I rarely hear kids anymore going to go to Fairleigh Dickinson Monmouth University Montclair or Rutgers. They all want the out-of-state experience. And why not it’s all just loans anyway these days.

  24. Grim says:

    Da, da, comrade.

  25. Hold my beer says:

    3b

    That’s what I was thinking too. 1 million millennial losers left and were replaced by 856k millennials who can make it in NJ.

  26. Fast Eddie says:

    The left is just losing their minds. Isn’t this beautiful? Hey, did you notice the increase in your paycheck?

  27. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Let Schiff release what he wants and let people come to their own conclusion.”

    If WikiLeaks and the State Department cables showed you anything. Don’t air your laundry in public. There are things that should not see the light of day.

    Donne telling the Russian what Israel did, burnt assets and relationships.
    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-revealed-secret-israeli-mission-northern-syria-russian-diplomats-720600

  28. Nwnj says:

    Without getting into the geopolitics, i’ll Just repeat. Trump flipped the script.

  29. Not Grimsky says:

    Grim,

    We have entered the “Halls of mirrors”. To an extend a lot of the posters are blinding themselves because of ideology. No different than 30′-70’s leftist/communist sympathizers blinding themselves to the KGB’s mind game.

    So what’s more likely.

    An executive branch leadership pissing on the traditions and rule of law because A) trying to cover up some misdeeds (money laundering and tax evasion) which are being held over their heads like a Sword of Damocles B) A secret government that really hates the orange hair.

    A candidate that let her ego go into places that were not only illegal (Gov’t Data outside of Gov’t servers) A) but by doing that she exposed herself to the world of foreign intelligence – that were out fishing for whatever they can get their hands on, but were specifically targeting her, because of 20+ rs old beef. B) A secret government that really hates her cankles.

    What results would you expect from it. Something like this.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/31/steve-mnuchin-russia-sanctions-list-forbes-216556

    Money shot

    Soon, it emerged that section 241 of the new law had attracted great attention in Moscow. It called on the secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the director of national intelligence and the secretary of state, to submit within 180 days a detailed report identifying “the most significant senior foreign political figures and oligarchs” in Russia. It was supposed to be “determined by their closeness to the Russian regime and their net worth.” It should also be based on an “assessment of the relationship between individuals and President Vladimir Putin or other members of the Russian ruling elite” and an “identification of any indices of corruption with respect to those individuals.”

    The obvious aim of this text was to identify those who had made their fortune on illicit contacts with the Kremlin. This anticipated report became popularly called the “Kremlin list.” The various government bodies involved clearly carried out a conscientious work on these lines. Numerous sources reported that a selective and limited list was being formed, even if uncertainties remained.

    In the last week, however, somebody high up – as yet unknown – threw out the whole expert work. It could be somebody in the State Department, the Treasury or the White House. Instead of using the vetted, thoroughly researched list, this unknown political superior simply wrote down the top of the Russian presidential administration and government plus the 96 Russian billionaires on the Forbes list.

    This act has numerous implications. First, by this action, this senior official ridiculed the government experts who had prepared another report. Any serious Russian who reads the published list can only conclude that U.S. intelligence is as dumb as it gets.

    Second, this was supposed to be a list naming and shaming specific, odious and corrupt figures around the Kremlin. By mentioning more than 200 people, the U.S. government achieved the opposite effect—namely mocking the seemingly semi-literate readers of the Kremlin phone book and the Forbes rich list. The list includes several Kremlin critics.

    Third, the clear intention of section 241, and the reason why it had attracted so much attention, was the intention to split the Russian elite and offer prominent Russians the option to live safely in the West. Many businessmen on the Forbes list are citizens of countries other than Russia and have long live abroad. By including all the wealthiest Russians, the U.S. government has instead made a major push to solidify the Russian elite behind Putin.

    Also,

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/31/trumps-saturday-night-massacre-is-happening-right-before-our-eyes-216560?lo=ap_a1

    This is what being in the UK govermennt when Kim Philby was there was like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Philby

  30. Not Grimsky says:

    Grim, please release. Very important

  31. Stutz Bearcat says:

    Gary Boy’s new narrative: “…from this day forward, the Galactic Empire are the good guys, Biff is Marty McFly’s real dad and Ayn Rand died rich and fulfilled.”

  32. Ottoman says:

    This applies to corporations 100 fold.

    “How do you know when a politician is lying?

    When it opens its mouth.”

  33. Ottoman says:

    Did you notice that every single trickle down tax cut implemented in the last 100 years resulted in a financial collapse? No, of course you didn’t.

    Fast Eddie says:
    February 1, 2018 at 9:01 am
    The left is just losing their minds. Isn’t this beautiful? Hey, did you notice the increase in your paycheck?

  34. xolepa says:

    What collapsed in the 1980s?

  35. Juice Box says:

    A FISA warrant and a memo? Small potatoes folks. This is the classic case of look left while the real action is on the right.

    National Security Agency Director Admiral Mike Rogers blew the whistle on the “Warrantless Surveillance” and unmasking that was occurring. Section 702 was abused, and yet it was still extended another six years by Congress last month, and Rodgers is now retiring.

    March 20th 2017 in congressional testimony, James Comey was asked why the FBI Director did not inform congressional oversight the “Intelligence gang of eight” about the counterintelligence operation that began in July 2016.

    FBI Director Comey said he did not tell congressional oversight he was investigating presidential candidate Donald Trump because the Director of Counterintelligence (Bill Priestap) suggested he not do so.

    *A Very important detail.*

    Oversight protocol requires the FBI Director to tell the congressional “Intelligence Gang of Eight” of any counterintelligence operations. The Go8 has oversight into these ops at the highest level of classification.

    At the time the gang of eight was.

    United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence:
    Devin Nunes (R, CA-22): (Chair)
    Adam Schiff (D, CA-28): (Ranking member)
    United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence:
    Richard Burr (R, NC): (Chair)
    Mark Warner (D, VA): (Vice Chairman)
    Leadership in the United States House of Representatives:
    Paul Ryan (R, WI-1): (Speaker of the House)
    Nancy Pelosi (D, CA-12): (Minority leader)
    Leadership in the United States Senate:
    Mitch McConnell (R, KY): (Majority leader)
    Chuck Schumer (D, NY): (Minority leader)

    This is the warrantless wiretapping that occurs every day and it is not FISA warrants.

    WATCH the testimony again.

    https://youtu.be/HlXXZQgh72Y

  36. No One says:

    And Ottoman immediately provides an example of a leftist abandoning reason while making up fake facts.
    No raise in foodstamps = no raise in Cheetos and hot-pockets for basement-dwelling sjw internet trolls = no demand-side stimulus.

    Ottoman says:

    February 1, 2018 at 9:41 am

    Did you notice that every single trickle down tax cut implemented in the last 100 years resulted in a financial collapse? No, of course you didn’t.

    Fast Eddie says:
    February 1, 2018 at 9:01 am
    The left is just losing their minds. Isn’t this beautiful? Hey, did you notice the increase in your paycheck?

  37. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Capitalists criticizing capitalism. Megacorps plan new healthcare company to be efficient, low-cost, and “free from profit-making incentives and constraints.” Think about it.

  38. joyce says:

    What are we all missing today?

    Not Grimsky says:
    February 1, 2018 at 9:25 am
    Grim, please release. Very important

  39. joyce says:

    Ridiculous

    Fabius Maximus says:
    February 1, 2018 at 9:01 am

    There are things that should not see the light of day.

  40. leftwing says:

    “Left, Sandy Hook, is tied to the Gun Control debate. Those kids died not because of Immigration (chain or whatever), but of gang violence, the two are not tied.”

    Sorry, forgot you have liberal blinders on with respect to the actions of the left. Let me break it down for you.

    I never said Sandy hook had anything to do with immigration.

    What I said is this:

    Immigration: Hot button political issue

    Gun Rights: Hot button political issue

    Sandy Hook: Obama stood over the bodies of 20 dead school children and used the opportunity to deliver a speech advancing his political views on gun rights

  41. Fast Eddie says:

    Did you notice that every single trickle down tax cut implemented in the last 100 years resulted in a financial collapse? No, of course you didn’t.

    It didn’t collapse in my financial world. Stop contributing to lost, liberal causes and invest in a Vanguard fund.

  42. Fast Eddie says:

    Italics off… I hope

  43. leftwing says:

    Oh, this just gets better and better…..

    McCabe knew of the new HRC emails on Weiners computer fully a month in advance of Comey going public.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371753-wsj-agents-texts-reveal-mccabe-knew-of-clinton-emails-for-at-least-a

    So timeline looks something like this?
    Aug 2015: McCabe’s wife gets $700k from McAuliffe, Clinton confidant
    June 2016: WJC meets covertly with Lynch, DOJ, on airport tarmac
    July 2016: DOJ shuts down Clinton email investigation
    September 2016: McCabe knows Weiner emails exist
    October 2016: Comey comes clean publicly before election

    Oh, and don’t forget, the two FBI agents running the Clinton email investigation (already on record for their prejudices) this month both simultaneously and coincidentally had hardware and software failures that wiped all their text messages from that period clean…uhhh, right.

    Please liberals, please, keep investigating the events around the 2016 election. In the end we are going to get so much more out of it than you.

    Dumbasses, they keep firing the rifle with the barrel facing the wrong direction. Fcuking bunch of Wile E Coyotes lol.

  44. chicagofinance says:

    Thank you. The guy is completely intractable, and as I stated previously, intellectually dishonest…….. his post is the height of arrogance, and common among liberal elite.

    joyce says:
    February 1, 2018 at 10:54 am
    Ridiculous

    Fabius Maximus says:
    February 1, 2018 at 9:01 am

    There are things that should not see the light of day.

  45. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    so trickle down tax cuts were responsible for the housing bubble?

  46. chicagofinance says:

    “There are things that should not see the light of day.”

    joyce says:
    February 1, 2018 at 10:52 am
    What are we all missing today?

    Not Grimsky says:
    February 1, 2018 at 9:25 am
    Grim, please release. Very important

  47. grim says:

    This applies to corporations 100 fold.

    Unions too.

  48. Not Joyce says:

    Joyce,

    Are you keeping up with the APP Series on Rogue Cops?

    Check out APP or Record.

  49. You didn't build that says:

    FedEx
    (Memphis, Tennessee) – commits more than $3.2 billion in wage increases, bonuses, pension funding due to the recent tax cuts. Pay raises, bonus increases, pension plan increases, and at least $1.5 billion in capital expenditures:

    “FedEx Corporation is announcing three major programs today following the recently enacted U.S. Tax Cuts and Jobs Act:

    Over $200 million in increased compensation, about two-thirds of which will go to hourly team members by advancing 2018 annual pay increases by six months to April 1st from the normal October date. The remainder will fund increases in performance- based incentive plans for salaried personnel.
    A voluntary contribution of $1.5 billion to the FedEx pension plan to ensure it remains one of the best funded retirement programs in the country.
    Investing $1.5 billion to significantly expand the FedEx Express Indianapolis hub over the next seven years. The Memphis SuperHub will also be modernized and enlarged in a major program the details of which will be announced later this spring.

    FedEx believes the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will likely increase GDP and investment in the United States.

    The company has made no change to its fiscal 2018 earnings or capital expenditure guidance as issued on December 19, 2017 as a result of these actions.” – Jan. 26 2018, FedEx press release

  50. Fabius Maximus says:

    “things that should not see the light of day.”

    So Wikileaks is a good thing and Bradley / Chelsea Manning should be hailed as hero and not a Traitor by airing Americas Laundry to its enemies.

  51. You didn't build that says:

    JPMorgan Chase & Co.
    (New York, New York) — Base wage raised for 22,000 employees, to a range of $15 to $18 per hour; 4,000 new jobs added; 400 new branches; increased charitable donations; increased small business lending:

    JPMorgan Chase today announced a $20 billion, five-year comprehensive investment to help its employees, and support job and local economic growth in the United States. The firm has always believed that the highest and best use of its capital is to support employees and local communities and businesses by doing what a bank is supposed to do: lending and investing.

    This long-term investment, which both increases and accelerates the firm’s current growth, is made possible by the firm’s strong and sustained business performance, recent changes to the U.S. corporate tax system and a more constructive regulatory and business environment.

    Through this new investment, the firm will develop hundreds of new branches in several new U.S. markets, increase wages and benefits for hourly U.S. employees, make increased small business and mortgage lending commitments, add 4,000 jobs throughout the country and increase philanthropic investments.

    The investment brings together the best of the firm’s business and philanthropic efforts to drive inclusive economic growth and help create opportunity for more Americans.

    The $20 billion investment will focus on the following key areas:

    Investing in employees with further increases to wages and benefits. Wages will increase 10 percent on average—ranging from between $15 and $18/hour—for 22,000 employees.
    Expanding the branch network into new U.S. markets, leading to increased small business lending and philanthropic investments, and further support for local low-and moderate-income communities.
    Increasing community-based philanthropic investments by 40 percent to $1.75 billion over five years.
    Increasing small business lending by $4 billion.
    Accelerating affordable housing lending by (a) increasing mortgage lending in low-and moderate-income communities and (b) accelerating commercial lending to build affordable housing. – Jan. 23, 2018 JPMorgan Chase & Co. press release

  52. Fabius Maximus says:

    Left,

    Go back and read my post.

    Sandy Hook was about Gun Control. O used it to talk about Gun Control. Linked.

    Long island was about Gang Violence. Donnie used it to talk about Immigration. Not Linked.

  53. You didn't build that says:

    Visa
    (Foster City, California) – significantly increased permanent contributions to employee 401(k) accounts

    The recent passage of tax reform legislation here in the U.S. will generate substantial benefit to businesses with U.S.-based headquarters, including Visa, through a reduction in the overall corporate tax rate. This action will allow us to increase investment in our long-term growth, and most importantly in all of you who are so integral to Visa’s success.

    We are in the very early stages of determining the extent and timing of the investments that we might make. As we explore the range of potential options, taking actions in support of our employees around the world is high on our list.

    As an initial step, and recognizing that the change in tax is focused on the U.S., we have looked first at improving our benefits for U.S.-based employees by significantly enriching our company contributions to the 401(k) program:

    Today Visa matches 200% of eligible employee contributions up to 3% of base salary for a total maximum contribution of 6% of eligible pay.
    Visa will now increase the match to 200% of employee contributions, up to 5% of base salary, for a Visa total maximum contribution of 10% of eligible pay.

    This enhanced benefit will be available to all U.S. employees, with the exception of Executive Committee members, and will take effect in late February. To encourage use of the program, we will be changing the default employee pre-tax contribution from 3% to 5% for employees who currently contribute less than 5%.

    We are also exploring a range of talent, education and technology investments designed to provide sustained enhanced benefits to all employees around the world, consistent with the role everyone will play in building our business for years to come. We look forward to sharing more specifics with you in the coming months. – Excerpt from Jan. 3 internal announcement to Visa’s U.S. employees

  54. leftwing says:

    Yet again those liberal blinders……

    Sandy Hook was about gun control only in your mind. Mental health, perhaps?

    Long Island was about only gang violence only in your mind. MS-13 perhaps?

    But, again, I forget that all that matters to a liberal exclusively what he believes.

    The two situations are entire analogous. Except Donnie wasn’t standing at a mass murder scene.

  55. leftwing says:

    Actually, I take back my comment. The situations are not analogous.

    Donnie was talking about immigration in a bi-partisan political setting established specifically for the purpose of discussing such issues. He invited the parents of children slain by an immigrant heavy street gain as guests. They accepted.

    Obama imposed himself on the scene of a tragedy and injected politics.

    You are correct. The two situations are very different.

  56. Stutz Bearcat says:

    How do you not visit a scene like that and not call out assalt rifles?

  57. JCer says:

    Fab, situation is the same you can either look at Sandy Hook and say some nut shot up a school, regardless of our gun laws he would have gotten the weapons he needed(not only guns kill, even with gun control illegal weapons are still prevalent) or that the ability for the shooter to get the guns easily was why the situation happened and if the guns weren’t easily obtainable there would not have been the massacre.

    In the case of kids murdered by illegal aliens, if the aliens weren’t here illegally perhaps the murder never happens and perhaps gangs like MS-13 would be weaker and more concerned with making money rather than murdering people un-involved in profitable criminal activity.

    Liberals have no valid arguments for allowing mass illegal immigration the same as conservatives having no good arguments against common sense gun control(note dems don’t want common sense gun control).

  58. joyce says:

    Fabius,
    The short answer is yes. And come to think of it, why don’t you try answering one of my questions for once? Don’t worry about answering that one either, Chicago is right.

  59. joyce says:

    Because all rifles (the made up “assault” ones and all the rest) account for a tiny percentage of total crime… and handguns are over 95%.

    Stutz Bearcat says:
    February 1, 2018 at 12:21 pm
    How do you not visit a scene like that and not call out assalt rifles?

  60. grim says:

    MS-13 has nothing to do with illegal immigration?

    Huh?

  61. Stutz Bearcat says:

    I doubt Most liberals think like you say they do – unless they own farms in Central CA

  62. Fabius Maximus says:

    So if all is Peachy in America. Why is Consumer Sentiment down. Will all this so called wealth translate to more Hogs on the road?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/01/30/harley-davidson-kansas-city-plant-motorcycle-sales-fall/1078008001/

    e Milwaukee-based company said its net income fell 82% in its fiscal fourth quarter to $8.3 million, compared with a year earlier. Earnings per share were 5 cents, down from 27 cents a year earlier. Revenue was $1.23 billion, up from $1.11 billion.

    The earnings drop came in part because of a charge associated with President Trump’s tax cut and a $29.4 million charge for a voluntary product recall.

  63. Stutz Bearcat says:

    Yet Central Valley farmers are Conservatives. Go figger

  64. Stutz Bearcat says:

    1:12 That’s a different kettle of fish.

  65. Stutz Bearcat says:

    Changing tastes and generational thinking is more to blame. That and the super douchy image most Harley enthusiasts emulate.

  66. JCer says:

    Yes only old men ride harleys….their customer is dying and/or becoming unable to ride. I know a lot of younger motorcycle people they all ride japanese bikes, ducatis, bmw, none ride harleys.

  67. Fast Eddie says:

    Fabius,

    I hear buggy whip sales are stagnant as well.

  68. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You didn’t build that,

    Why does it take a tax cut for companies that have been flush with money to give raises? Why? Why did it take a bribe payed for by future generations to finally get these companies to give a raise?

  69. Fabius Maximus says:

    If the same story of those kids in LI was moved to Compton and the gang changed to the Bl00ds, is it still a discussion on Immigration? The same style of death happens all over the country. Detroit Chicago and NY.

    Donnie picks this gang to make it about Immigration not gang violence.

  70. Fabius Maximus says:

    “why don’t you try answering one of my questions for once?”

    I have tried in the past and my answer never meets your satisfaction. So I’ve given up trying.

  71. Fabius Maximus says:

    “I hear buggy whip sales are stagnant as well.”

    I hear the same about the iPhoneX

  72. grim says:

    Will all this so called wealth translate to more Hogs on the road?

    Boomers are dying now, who exactly will be left to ride a Harley? Certainly not GenX/Y/Millennials.

  73. grim says:

    HD did outsource business recently, to save money, didn’t win the business.

  74. joyce says:

    Bullshit. You respond all the time, just not point and/or with a question. Never answer.
    Your responses never satisfy Chicago but you keeping to him too. You’re such a dope.

  75. joyce says:

    “Now is the time to give the people of Newark back full control over their schools,” Cerf, 63, said recently.
    http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/02/chris_cerf_newark_schools_local_control.html#incart_river_home

    full control? sure

  76. Juice Box says:

    HArely sales were down about 10,000 units yoy. Their new tree hugger millennial electric bike is out soon. Hopefully Harley will get the celbutards of the millions generation to ride them up and down sunset strip and broadway in NYC.

  77. leftwing says:

    “Donnie picks this gang to make it about Immigration not gang violence.”

    Again, in a bipartisan political setting where one of the main topics was immigration.

    “How do you not visit a scene like that and not call out assalt rifles?”

    Because unless you are from the Left there is not a direct line from rifle laws to that playground. But, again, I acknowledge the arrogance of the Left make them incapable of even processing that there are explanations that differ from their groupthink view.

    You guys are really insufferable.

  78. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Just like he did with “Fake News”. Fake News was contrived by the DNC/MSM complex to mean everyone except them. Now it is them.

    Without getting into the geopolitics, i’ll Just repeat. Trump flipped the script.

  79. grim says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5340391/Democrat-played-CANDY-CRUSH-State-Union.html

    It’s unclear from the picture what level of Candy Crush she was on. Members of Congress are paid $174,000 per year.

  80. Fabius Maximus says:

    Yes Joyce, I pick and choose who and what I want to respond to. There are discussions that I choose not to take part in. If someone is annoying I ignore them. I don’t try and shout them down or use school bully tactics to drive them out.
    I disagreed with practically every position Jamil had, but he had the same right as I to post and I had the choice to engage him.

  81. Fabius Maximus says:

    “there is not a direct line from rifle laws to that playground”

    No that line goes via NRA headquarters.

  82. chicagofinance says:

    By The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation is making a last-ditch effort to block the release of a House Intelligence Committee memo detailing the bureau’s behavior during the 2016 election. This is all the more reason to let Americans see it.

    In an unusual public statement Wednesday, the bureau objected that it had only “a limited opportunity to review” the memo the day before the House voted Monday to release it. The statement added that the FBI had “grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

    This is really something. The FBI knows what’s in the memo because it has long known what the House committee was seeking to examine. For months it refused to provide access to those documents until director Christopher Wray and the Justice Department faced a contempt of Congress vote. If they now object to the way the House construes the facts, they should have been more cooperative from the start.

    Note the FBI’s language about “material omissions” rather than errors of fact. Until this statement the FBI was pleading damage to “national security.” Now that rationale has given way to the claim that the House is omitting key details to reach judgments that the FBI apparently disagrees with. If Mr. Wray wants to fill in those omissions, he can always ask President Trump to declassify more documents to provide a more complete record. We’d love to see them, and Mr. Trump should give that transparency a boost even if Mr. Wray doesn’t request it.

  83. Juice Box says:

    Fun fact – Christopher Wray was Chris Christie’s personal attorney during the Bridgegate scandal.

  84. Laser says:

    @ 11:56AM

    JP Morgan is one of the top H-1B visa abusers in the country. A US bank among the ranks of Tata and Wipro. Dimon could care less about Americans, or the country, a true traitor CEO.

    That press release is all about lower paid employees in retail branches (bank tellers) . Their good-paying jobs are staffed almost entirely with foreign nationals from India, and their “employees” sitting in recently-bought buildings in Bombay and Bangalore, because paying Americans issue too expensive.

  85. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    If the same story of those kids in LI was moved to Compton and the gang changed to the Bl00ds, is it still a discussion on Immigration? The same style of death happens all over the country. Detroit Chicago and NY.

    Just because we have home grown gangs doesn’t mean we need to import problems from El Salvador.

  86. Stutz Bearcat says:

    I have to say that i agree with Trump’s immigration ideas.
    It’s time to send the illegals home.

  87. Stutz Bearcat says:

    Karen Reyes spends her days teaching a group of deaf toddlers at Lucy Read Pre-Kindergarten School in Austin, Tex., how to understand a world they cannot hear.

    For the first time in her four-year teaching career, Ms. Reyes, 29, is at a loss. One of nearly 9,000 educators protected under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, Ms. Reyes has struggled to explain to her students, through sign language and pictures, the uncertainty of her future.

    When President Trump rescinded the program in September, he gave Congress until early March to find a replacement before deportations are set to begin for the hundreds of thousands of young immigrants brought to the country illegally as children who gave their names to the government and were granted work permits. Ms. Reyes’s teaching days may be numbered — to 119 to be exact.

    “I don’t know what I’m going to tell them,” Ms. Reyes said through tears. “They understand when I go on an airplane. Maybe they’ll just think I’m on a never-ending flight.”

  88. dentssdunnigan says:

    1 million millennial losers left and were replaced by 1 million Illegals …

  89. Critical ThinkingBe4Ideology says:

    Chi Fi – come on. WSJ=Murdoch = Chinese Influence and Conservative Leaning

    Grim – come on Daily Mail = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
    See for yourself. Long wacky history with facts, very Trump like.

  90. Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn't Tom Brady says:

    Gluteus,

    “There are discussions that I choose not to take part in. If someone is annoying I ignore them.”

    That is absolutely priceless coming from you. You took me to task for precisely the same sentiment.

  91. It didn’t collapse in my financial world. Stop contributing to lost, liberal causes and invest in a Vanguard fund.

  92. Fabius Maximus says:

    Yes Eddie Ray, I ignore your posts on a regular basis.

    But I will address this one. Recall is low, but I think the difference was that you walked into an argument, took a dump on the floor and left and wouldn’t engage on a followup. I would say, lets go back to tape, but I suspect it all went under a CeaseandD But if you can post an example, I’ll discuss.

  93. Fabius Maximus says:

    This is tough to get though the filters

    My SB prediction is blocked.
    ‘ll leave you with this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahFya9H06rA
    I don’t think my Niners ever lost a postseason to them!

  94. Yo! says:

    Otteau is right to call out NJ real estate haters like NAR puppet politician Gottheimer and TDS reporter Salant.

    Home prices across swaths of Gottheimer’s district (Sussex) have been falling for years caused by economic and social factors, not tax policy.

    I’m ready to run against Gottheimer in 2020. Should I do it? I’ll self fund campaign.

  95. No One says:

    Cryptocurrencies are getting crushed.
    Most will be forgotten in a few years.

  96. chicagofinance says:

    Wall Street Journal Editorial has been functioning consistent with the long history before Murdoch. They are ridiculously, and often rhetorically, conservative. However, they make well structured arguments always, and fact check. I don’t have to agree with it, but when they say something, I am always interested. From time to time, they really hit the mark, so it is with skimming it every day.

    Critical ThinkingBe4Ideology says:
    February 1, 2018 at 6:08 pm
    Chi Fi – come on. WSJ=Murdoch = Chinese Influence and Conservative Leaning

  97. chicagofinance says:

    so it is worth skimming it every day.

  98. J says:

    The Otteau group should start tracking the effects of real estate taxes, which are insane in NJ.

    We can call it “The Stupidity Index” and use it as a means of tracking the idiots who are dumb enough to vote for Democrat politicians who do everything they can to raise our taxes, as fast and as high as possible.

  99. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Sky is always falling, and then it’s not.

    That’s what I learned from 2008 crisis. Screw the noise, the sun will come up tomorrow.

    “This topic has caused quite a stir, with some forecasters predicting ‘Armageddon’ and that the ‘The Sky is Falling’! Contrary to these claims, our analysis indicates that most existing homeowners and homebuyers in New Jersey and New York will realize a net tax savings under the new tax code.”

  100. Comrade Nom Deplume, looking for a bump stock or five says:

    Fabius Maximus says:
    February 2, 2018 at 2:14 am

    “Yes Eddie Ray, I ignore your posts on a regular basis.”

    For which I am thankful. I already argue with 14 and 8YO girls. I don’t need another irrational female to respond to.

    “I think the difference was that you walked into an argument, took a dump on the floor and left and wouldn’t engage on a followup.”

    Nice characterization, I could say the same of you. As for followup, you either would not understand or refuse to accept it. As with my kids when they are oppo, I step back and let nature take its course.

    “I would say, lets go back to tape, but I suspect it all went under a CeaseandD”

    More like I get paid for higher level analysis. People don’t believe what they don’t pay for. Besides as the Bible says, don’t cast pearls before swine.

    “But if you can post an example, I’ll discuss.”

    You’re the code monkey. Do your own searching.

  101. Comrade Nom Deplume, looking for a bump stock or five says:

    Gluteus

    Your niners are only relevant today because of a gift from New England.

    As for the Bears, they can kiss our rings.

  102. No One says:

    One thing nobody rides anymore is a Stutz Bearcat.

  103. Bystander says:

    Laser,

    Not surprising. All banks have been moving deeper into the h1 hires while outsourcing to India model for years. I abhor Trump but I was hopeful that H1B situation would change. He is doing all window dressing BS. I had two calls from JP and BNY, looking for senior level person to manage MBS replatforming and Tax regulation intiatives in tech. Would manage several BAs. Quote for salary $130k in both..in NYC. I practically hung up. Jobs? Booming economy? I know a couple people on notice and they can’t find anything decent. This is H1B at work.

  104. Fast Eddie says:

    Quote for salary $130k in both..in NYC.

    That’s not decent money? Really?

  105. Clotpoll says:

    So that’s where it ended up…

    Loaded Grenade Launcher Found in Florida Goodwill Charity Bin – Newsweek

  106. Clotpoll says:

    NJ is over, folks. Smoke em if you got em.

    In the end, we are all Friskies-eaters.

  107. Clotpoll says:

    10:22. C0cktail hour.

  108. grim says:

    I had a gin cocktail at 9:30am.

  109. Bystander says:

    On a call now for US/UK driven project. 22 people on call. Here is distribution:

    US/UK based people with names Patel, Sharma, Khanna etc. – 14

    US/UK based people with names Smith, Campbell, Miller – 5

    People with Vs at end of name.. hah..ie Bulgaria – 2

    People based in India – 1

    This is not a slam on any culture as most East asian h1s I have worked with have been diligent workers, smart and friendly. It just shows how 1 country has dominated the program which we know has created abuses in salary negotiation for others.

  110. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    No One – Warren Buffet concurs. He said if he could buy a five year put on all of them he would.

    Cryptocurrencies are getting crushed.
    Most will be forgotten in a few years.

  111. grim says:

    Still trying to figure out why they are called that.

    They don’t seem to be either of those things.

    They are more public than crypto, and they are wildly synthetic.

  112. Laser says:

    Why is a US school hiring illegals? The school should be explaining the “sad story” to those kids, and the parents, that they hired an illegal instead of an American. It’s a problem of their own making.

    “Karen Reyes spends her days teaching a group of deaf toddlers at Lucy Read Pre-Kindergarten School in Austin, Tex.”

  113. Bystander says:

    C’mon Gman. You’ve been on the block long enough.I know documentation type BAs with no managerial responsibilities clearing $150k easy. Hell I worked with a PM who managed single project, finance migration that was clearing over $1000 daily rate for years…in CT. Portfolio management and people management..cost goes up considerably. $130k is a joke at a NYC location.

  114. Laser says:

    Fast Eddie, to manage a team, oversee a large effort, work 70 hours per week, work weekends and nights, endure the time and expense of a NY City commute, no $130K is not a lot of money. Probably breaks down to $30 per hour to never see your family.

  115. D-FENS says:

    Part of Harley’s problem is that they are competing with the used market. I wish I could find the article but I remember reading that a large percentage of the bikes they’ve sold over the past 100 years are still on the road.

    Used dealer down the road from me has a showroom full of bikes…many Harleys for 1/3 the price of a new one. Often times they are already loaded with upgrades too.

  116. D-FENS says:

    BTW, those dolts at newsweek freaked out and went completely hysterical over nothing. it turned out to be an airsoft toy. Dunces.

    Clotpoll says:
    February 2, 2018 at 10:15 am
    So that’s where it ended up…

    Loaded Grenade Launcher Found in Florida Goodwill Charity Bin – Newsweek

  117. Bystander says:

    Laser,

    To your point, I just looked at signing my 1 year old son up for group music class. This place wanted $400 for 10, 45 m sessions. This is a class with 10 other kids minimum. They are asking about $60/ hr basically to bang a drum and sing with a guitar. Private lesson for skiing instructor – $75 hr at crappy ski resort. Basically, banks are saying your skill and time are worth less than these people.

  118. 3b says:

    Clots back?

  119. D-FENS says:

    Memo is out. They tapped his wires.

  120. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Yep.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    January 29, 2018 at 9:03 pm
    Here’s what I think we’ll find:

    1. FBI tried to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and was denied.
    2. They tried again, this time with opposition research, bought and paid for by the DNC and Clinton. Except the FBI represented the oppo research, bought by Clinton for $12 million, as the FBI’s own sourced information, creating a fraud on the court.

    One more thing. McCabe, who was pushed out today by Wray after he read the memo Yesterday (Sunday), was given $700K of Clinton cash, ostensibly toward his wife’s Virginia run at a state congress position, which failed. When I first heard that, I thought, “Well, maybe something, but it’s kind of nothing,” except…

    In Virginia you get to keep for yourself any left over donations.

    Looking at this, it seems this memo will make the case w that this investigation should never have happened because of the way initial intel was gathered.

  121. Stutz Bearcat says:

    The first rule of buying a motorcycle is buy used.

  122. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    They went a corrupt step further. They leaked the dossier to the press, Isikoff wrote an article referencing some of it’s contents, then referenced the article in the FISA warrant application. In other words, the FBI gave the dossier to a reporter to write an article, then they went to the FISA court representing the dossier as FBI work, then told the court they believe it’s true because of the article (not telling the court that they gave the dossier to the reporter).

    They used the dossier to corroborate the dossier.

  123. Stutz Bearcat says:

    I have an 02 softail. Handling sucks, it’s very powerful but has a narrow front tire that is useless for anything except cruising. Limited utility there. Image machine with a fading almost ridiculous image.

  124. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, this blog has finally figured out 100k isn’t crap in our area. Now maybe you can stop being jealous of teacher salaries.

    Bystander says:
    February 2, 2018 at 10:42 am
    C’mon Gman. You’ve been on the block long enough.I know documentation type BAs with no managerial responsibilities clearing $150k easy. Hell I worked with a PM who managed single project, finance migration that was clearing over $1000 daily rate for years…in CT. Portfolio management and people management..cost goes up considerably. $130k is a joke at a NYC location.

  125. Stutz Bearcat says:

    12:48 veteran teachers (30 plus years) retire with $100k pensions.

  126. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lmao!! I have a bridge to nowhere to sell if you are interested?

    Stutz Bearcat says:
    February 2, 2018 at 12:49 pm
    12:48 veteran teachers (30 plus years) retire with $100k pensions

  127. Stutz Bearcat says:

    OK Sarah Palin

  128. Bystander says:

    Dufus, you show your reading illiteracy yet again. Most complainers here rightly call out teachers benefits, not their salaries. $130k is nothing if you pay your own healthcare, fund your own retirement and have to work a full 12 months a year with 60 hour weeks. Hell, I believe actual teachers deserve more salary but reduce benefits for the bloated adminstrative staffs who don’t teach but push paper and answer phone calls about Little Johnny’s nut allergy.

  129. Popcorn Seller says:

    Everyone is wearing ideology blinders. The FBI went there, because where there is smoke there is fire. Remember, this is an “memo” of a very one sided ideologue. What does the FSB has on Nuñez.

    Likely to happen soon. Rosenstein gets canned. Replaced by loyal toadie who promptly fires Mueller. Congress/Supreme Court won’t do a thing.

    Massive of amount of real secret info showing how compromised the Executive Branch is makes its way public. After all, what’s the use of all the secret gathering system and black budgets, if the top guy is a manchurian president.

    Also expect Trumpie to do something stupid with North Korea to divert attention, when it gets hot.

    Get your popcorn people. The sh&t is about to hit the fan.

    The question will be answered. Can a democratic republic survive when its elected leadership is morally and intellectually bankrupt.

  130. Ex-Jersey says:

    Administrators are the “dirty little secret” in education. They are usually either toxic to the school’s staff or completely hands-off (different problem there). I have a buddy who has been teaching 20 years and can barely afford his house. He’s not extravagant. Yet you had administrators who will retire with huge pensions and make twice what most teachers make yet they have ZERO impact on your kid’s education. Yes, you should be angry. It is a complete sham.

  131. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    12:48 veteran teachers (30 plus years) retire with $100k pensions.

    If a teacher retires at a salary of 100k after 25 , they get a payout of approximately 43k a year. If they do more than 30, they get $56k a year.

  132. Ex-Jersey says:

    Funny thing, most kids understand instinctively how flawed their educational experience was. How the people teaching them seldom had a clue about anything and how the system punishes boys with energy and anyone who ‘disrupts’ the status quo factory model that most schools are based on.

  133. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Administrators are the “dirty little secret” in education. They are usually either toxic to the school’s staff or completely hands-off (different problem there). I have a buddy who has been teaching 20 years and can barely afford his house. He’s not extravagant. Yet you had administrators who will retire with huge pensions and make twice what most teachers make yet they have ZERO impact on your kid’s education. Yes, you should be angry. It is a complete sham.

    I disagree, they have a huge impact on your kid’s education. Not for the better. That being said, an administrator that ignores the teacher is usually the most effective one there is.

  134. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I wonder, given the late date of the FISA warrant, October 21, 2016, whether the underlying purpose was to unseat Trump if elected or, rather, “Lock him up”, if Hillary was elected?

  135. Fast Eddie says:

    Remember, this is an “memo” of a very one sided ideologue.

    LMAO! Sure. By the way, why don’t you post under your original handle?

  136. Ex-Jersey says:

    The question will be answered. Can a democratic republic survive when its elected leadership is morally and intellectually bankrupt?

    Is that a serious question….? I’m 51 and seen a whole lot of people in public office.
    I’m pretty sure that when I was a kid my awareness started with Nixon. Since then at every level of state and local government I have not seen decent men (mostly) in charge, but often people that I would consider avoided under just about any circumstances. But I suppose the question is, can they get the job done? My answer. Sometimes.

  137. Popcorn Seller says:

    Ex-Jersey, of course you would not get it.

    You are a borderline boomer. The Locust force is too strong in you.

    You mention Nixon. Nixon was checked by politicians that had integrity from both sides. From Rodino to Goldwater. And who was deep throat? Second in command of the FBI. No one shirk their duties to the constitution to protect a fellow “party” member.

  138. joyce says:

    Gary, really?

    Fast Eddie says:
    February 2, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    why don’t you post under your original handle?

  139. leftwing says:

    “I wonder, given the late date of the FISA warrant, October 21, 2016….”

    Sounds like a tit-for-tat. Comey needed a search warrant to crack Weiners computer for the Hillary emails. Even though the SDNY saw them, they could not just hand them over to FBI without the FBI having a warrant.

    Comey wrote his letter to Congress on Oct 28. That search warrant had to be filed before then with some time factored in for discovery on the emails.

    I’m guessing everyone was in on all the BS against Trump and basically assumed they were going to be the home team playing in their home rink with their own refs come November and nothing would never see the light of day.

    Then when polls changed in mid-October. Comey does some quick math and figures out if the away team gets the WH he will be the one getting fcuked. So he goes public with the emails that he knows exist since at least Sept 2016. Likely that then set off a mad scramble, with everyone else trying to both get the win for the home team and CYA if they lost.

  140. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    LOL. Touché

    Gary, really?

  141. nwnj says:

    I would just like to reiterate how absolutely rotten to the core the bankrupt DNC is. What a corrupt, festering POS. First they sell the primary to pay off debt and then try to fix the general election. It should be pursued for RICO and dismantled.

  142. leftwing says:

    “And who was deep throat? Second in command of the FBI.”

    Version 2.0. Throw blanket immunity on Comey and let him chirp away. Bring popcorn.

  143. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    lw – That sounds plausible except the polls had Hillary winning by 10+ points right before the Comey letter. Maybe the FBI had some “real” polls? I never bought Hillary’s lead as reported because I had firsthand knowledge that she couldn’t draw a (non-paying) crowd. Ironically, there were reports where they strong-armed reporters to change stories when they reported hundreds attended, forcing them to change it to “thousands”. I also was pretty sure that Trump supporters, especially the non-rally attending kind, couldn’t be polled accurately. In a way, the Comey letter gave the networks cover to revise down their fraudulent polls. I remember +10%, +12% right before the Comey letter.

    Sounds like a tit-for-tat. Comey needed a search warrant to crack Weiners computer for the Hillary emails. Even though the SDNY saw them, they could not just hand them over to FBI without the FBI having a warrant.

    Comey wrote his letter to Congress on Oct 28. That search warrant had to be filed before then with some time factored in for discovery on the emails.

    I’m guessing everyone was in on all the BS against Trump and basically assumed they were going to be the home team playing in their home rink with their own refs come November and nothing would never see the light of day.

    Then when polls changed in mid-October. Comey does some quick math and figures out if the away team gets the WH he will be the one getting fcuked. So he goes public with the emails that he knows exist since at least Sept 2016. Likely that then set off a mad scramble, with everyone else trying to both get the win for the home team and CYA if they lost.

  144. Fast Eddie says:

    Joyce,

    It’s no secret who I am. I knew I was going to attract that response.

  145. nwnj says:

    Comey is a hack(at best). Victim of the DC bubble. If he wants to clear his name then he should come forward with proof instead of talking in platitudes and tweeting bible verses. Right now he is certainly implicated.

  146. The Great Pumpkin says:

    FBI is the conservatives next target to kill with propaganda. They must be afraid of what Mueller and his team has found or will find. So they go out of their way to make the FBI look like they are not honest and can’t be trusted by releasing some stupid memo. Of course their followers eat it up and get drunk off it.

    Here’s a little tip to Trump and all his followers, the FBI put Trump in office. The timing and release of that email swayed the election. And if you don’t think so, stfu and stop lying to yourself. I remember it clearly and it immediately turned the tide against Clinton.

  147. The Great Pumpkin says:

    When the head of the FBI comes out a week before the election that he is reopening the investigation, no candidate can survive that. Almost impossible to overcome.

  148. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And that’s how you know all the “uranium” and “killing”conspiracies about the Clintons were full of sh!t. Just look at the Republicans playbook, this memo release says it all….if they had one piece of evidence to lock up “crooked Hillary,” they would have used it full force.

  149. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Amazingly, Clinton is not in jail after all the accusations against her. What does that tell you? Yes, it was all bs propaganda.

  150. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – Try and keep up.

    Comey testified to Congress in June 2017 that the memo was basically garbage as quoted “salacious and unverified”, yet he and others in the FBI and DOJ still signed off on the FISA court warrant submission of said salacious and unverified garbage nine months earlier in September 2016.

    Do you not see a problem with that alone?

    Carter Page who is fingered in this dossier document as some kind of kremlin agent is suing the pants off the government right now, he isn’t hiding in Moscow. He is going to win and win bigly.

  151. Juice Box says:

    re: “Mueller and his team”

    I heard they found a blue dress with a DNA stain on it.

  152. Very Stable Genius says:

    @MichaelSLinden

    Chevron got a $2 billion tax cut from the TrumpTax in the fourth quarter of 2017 alone. That’s nearly as much as all of the one-time bonuses that companies have given out put together.

  153. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    Sure that’s a problem, but I think a bigger problem is a President that cries fake news anytime something negative is said about him. Do you know the impact that has on our society? My god, trump said some racist stupid a$$ sh!t, and we are questioning why people in the FBI didn’t want him elected? Wtf!! And in the end, the FBI got him elected anyway, so what the hell is the purpose of releasing this memo besides getting rid of Mueller? Please explain

  154. Stutz Bearcat says:

    I’m gen X – My dad was a boomer.
    Yeah, i think i get it.

  155. nwnj says:

    Basically the same thing Comey and the crooked FBI agents said. Who cares if we rig a presidential election? Trump is a low life. What’s the big deal? Is that all?

  156. Fast Eddie says:

    They crushed Bernie and tried to crush Trump.

  157. joyce says:

    It is now, but was it when you first started using it?

    Fast Eddie says:
    February 2, 2018 at 2:46 pm
    Joyce,

    It’s no secret who I am. I knew I was going to attract that response.

  158. Trentonymous says:

    So according to Trump, the media, the courts, and the FBI are all liars out to get him. What are the odds? All these sacred US institutions conspiring against him!

    Meanwhile, Trump is refusing to enforce sanctions against Russia passed with almost unanimous bi-partisan support in Congress.

  159. Fast Eddie says:

    joyce,

    It is now, but was it when you first started using it?

    It took about 48 hours before the jig was up! :)

  160. Very Stable Genius says:

    @CNBCNow

    BREAKING: Dow plunges 670+ points

  161. Very Stable Genius says:

    @CNBCNow

    BREAKING: Stocks have worst week in 2 years, with the Dow closing down by more than 675 points

  162. Trentonymous says:

    Amazing how every institution whose duty it is to hold the executive branch accountable is all of a sudden being discredited….

    The media can’t be trusted.

    The FBI, CIA and Justice Department can’t be trusted.

    The courts can’t be trusted.

    Are we seeing the pattern?

    We have an authoritarian on the rise, and the scary part is basically a significant number of american are support of this.

  163. Very Stable Genius says:

    @kylegriffin1
    Top Senate and House Dems have written to Trump, warning him against using the Nunes memo as a justification for firing Rosenstein or Mueller, saying they’d view it as attempted obstruction and that it’d cause a constitutional crisis not seen since the Saturday Night Massacre.

    Trentonymous says:
    February 2, 2018 at 4:30 pm
    Amazing how every institution whose duty it is to hold the executive branch accountable is all of a sudden being discredited….

    The media can’t be trusted.

    The FBI, CIA and Justice Department can’t be trusted.

    The courts can’t be trusted.

    Are we seeing the pattern?

    We have an authoritarian on the rise, and the scary part is basically a significant number of american are support of this.

  164. Yo! says:

    https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/g7018002.pdf

    Feds: McGreevey’s prisoner reentry program a fraud. Don’t know how many participants rearrested, and millions of $$ missing.

  165. Very Stable Genius says:

    @ABC

    JUST IN:

    Top House, Senate Democrats write letter to Pres. Trump warning that use of the newly-released memo as a pretext to fire either Special Counsel Bob Mueller or Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein could spark a constitutional crisis.

  166. Trentonymous says:

    First thing to realize is that a significant number of right-wing voters are essentially authoritarians. In other words, they believe the President, so long as it is THEIR president, has unlimited authority to break the law.

    Nixon had about a 25% approval rating when he resigned. Trump’s will be about the same when he resigns or is impeached.

  167. Laser says:

    @ 3:25 PM

    Pumpkin your memory of 2016 is not very good. Do you remember Hillary not holding a press conference for 300 days straight, while Trump held a 45-minute press nearly every day, answering all questions until there were no more? They’re all on YouTube.

    Do you remember Hillary not visiting Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc, while Trump visited frequently and talked about re-opening factories while Hillary and crew talked about “Those jobs aren’t coming back”?

    Do you remember Hillary deleting thousands of e-mails FROM A COMPUTER IN HER BASEMENT DESIGNED TO SUBVERT F.O.I.A. REQUESTS? And SMASHING PHONES WITH A HAMMER?

    On “Russia” hysteria, no law has been broken, and the accusation that some Facebook ads from Russia determined the election outcome, rather than candidate Trump’s focus on securing our borders, returning factories, fixing broken trade agreements, lowering taxes, removing regulations, is plain silliness.

    The “mainstream” media have fully discredited themselves during this absurd “Russia” witch hunt, thus ironically guaranteeing a Trump 2020 victory.

  168. Trentonymous says:

    Well the Russia “witch hunt” has so far resulted in four people facing criminal charges, including the former National Security Adviser and Campaign Manager to the President.

    Call it “hysteria,” but all signs point to major Russian interference in the 2016 election, with more expected in 2018.

    All signs point to the POTUS being compromised in some way. Why does Traitor Trump refuse to enforce sanctions against Russia?

  169. Very Stable Genius says:

    @kurteichenwald

    Ive never joined the “impeach impeach” chants because I believe in waiting for final evidence. But having now witnessed an obstruction of justice & leaks of info to Russia, it’s time to stop this before Trump and criminal @DevinNunes damage America more. Impeach. And indict Nunes

  170. Trentonymous says:

    The Russia sanctions bill passed the Republican-controlled Senate 98-2 and the Republican-controlled House 419-3.

    Trump signed it into law due to the bipartisan pressure he faced to sign it.

    Now Trump refuses to enforce those sanctions.

    Why?

  171. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – re: “Sure that’s a problem, but I think Trump’s a bigger problem”

    This should be about oversight and accountability, not who got elected on Nov 8th. This occurred while Trump was still a private citizen.

    I explained yesterday in my post above about Comey. He withheld info from Congress, and now we know allowed the submission of the dossier which he knew to be unverified to the secret FISA court.

    Then there is the Clinton email nonsense and exoneration he interjected himself into during the election, that in itself was I don’t know what anymore, an act if hubris if anything, again he is responsible for politicizing the FBI. His job was to collect the evidence and get it to a grand jury not grand stand to the world.

    These government agencies were again politicized as they were in the past under many different administrations.

    Will it be different under Trump than it was under Obama? Well it won’t if they don’t clean house that is for sure.

  172. Juice Box says:

    re: the Russia sanctions..

    So Trump does not get a chance to do a reset with Russia like Hillary tried? We need to go full on cold war again?

    Don’t believe the hype by the way on the sanctions.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/02/01/russia-sanctions-trump-plays-turtle-editorials-debates/1083046001/

  173. Trentonymous says:

    Juice,

    The article you linked to is calling Trump out for burying his head on foreign threats, like Russia.

    “But for reasons that remain murky, he prefers to keep his head in his shell rather than confront Moscow about its attack on American democracy.”

  174. Juice Box says:

    Like I said don’t believe the hype. Let’s instead fire off an ICBM how’s that for sanctions?

  175. Phoenix says:

    The FBI, CIA and Justice Department can’t be trusted.

    The courts can’t be trusted.

    Your local courts can’t be trusted.

    Your police can’t be trusted.

    Your teachers and school boards can’t be trusted.

    Your spouse’s can’t be trusted.

    When will Apple come up with an app that out’s a liar 100% of the time.
    I would pay more for that app than the phone itself.

    “Smoke ’em if you got ’em”

  176. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Some people cry the same thing when any news indicates their ill-advised overpriced highway house won’t yield a profit.

    Sure that’s a problem, but I think a bigger problem is a President that cries fake news anytime something negative is said about him.

  177. Juice Box says:

    I also find it to be strange how the Press calls Trump out for being too tough in his words on Rocket Man but not Tough Enough on the Russians.

  178. Juice Box says:

    Imagine if Trump use the same threatening words on Putin as he used on Rocket Man would that be good enough?

  179. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    In all honesty, trump prob has a ton of skeletons in his closet. I’m at the point when it comes to politicians, I don’t care about the skeletons as long as you do right by the country and economy. That’s all that really matters to me. Whatever you do personally, I really don’t care. So far, trump is doing a good job on that front by lowering taxes. Let’s see if he stays the course.

  180. Stutz Bearcat says:

    5:45 apples & oranges

  181. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Where
    apples == evil megalomaniac
    and
    oranges === crazy evil megalomaniac?

    5:45 apples & oranges

  182. Ex-Jersey says:

    Apples as in how d’ya like them apples….and oranges as in Orange you glad you didn’t follow congress’ unanimous vote…..and sanction Russia.

  183. chicagofinance says:

    University administrators are getting a splendid little education in labor politics. Behold Columbia University’s battle with the United Auto Workers, which is trying to unionize graduate students who are also teaching assistants. Columbia this week declared that it is taking the fight to court.

    The National Labor Relation Board in 2016 overturned a Bush -era ruling and allowed Columbia teaching and research assistants to unionize. Grad students voted 1,602 to 623 in favor of the UAW. Columbia responded that the lack of a voter ID requirement should invalidate the election.

    The NLRB, which was intermittently under Democratic control last year due to Republican vacancies, disagreed. After grad students in December demanded to collectively bargain, administrators told the union to shove off. Hmmm. Is Columbia President Lee Bollinger a closet Republican?

    On Tuesday Columbia announced it would challenge the union’s certification in federal court. Some “among us are deeply concerned about what it means to have an outside party involved in what are ultimately academic and intellectual judgments by faculty members,” wrote Provost John Coatsworth.

    The union denounced Mr. Coatsworth’s “audacious proclamation, showing that the University would rather break the law than to recognize us as workers.” Like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Mr. Bollinger stands accused of stripping workers of their collective-bargaining rights.

    We sympathize with Columbia’s concern that unions could disrupt education and research, not to mention raise costs. For instance, a collective-bargaining agreement could limit the number of hours that teaching assistants may spend grading assignments. Professors might also have to do more work if assistants go on strike.

    But universities get the unions they deserve, and some exploit grad students who are compensated with “tuition waivers” that probably don’t cover the cost of their labor. These in-kind payments encourage universities to enroll more graduate students even if there is little demand in the job market for their degrees.

    The NLRB reversed course on whether grad students can unionize during both the Bush and Obama Administrations, and a new Republican majority may do so again. Yale, Harvard and the University of Chicago are also fighting unions. As the legal fight continues, perhaps university administrators will unite in solidarity to endorse state right-to-work legislation that forbids forced unionization.

    Appeared in the February 2, 2018, print edition.

  184. Laser says:

    Looks like the Trump haters have no problem with the US government using a Hillary-funded, fictional “dossier” as the basis to spy on American citizens, specifically the Trump campaign. Whomever submitted those bogus requests to the FISA court to initiate spying on the Trump campaign should go to jail.

    Oh, and with months of spying on the Trump campaign, and a year of digging, there is still ZERO “collusion” found. What a joke.

    The whole fiasco is the most bizarre thing I’ve ever witnessed — thousands of hours of breathless, delusional media coverage, speculation piled upon speculation, all without a shred of evidence. Most importantly, a “collusion” law doesn’t even exist.

    The whole thing is a sad farce. Also, Trump is more liberal than Pence, so if Trump goes away, they’ll have President Pence.

    Layers upon layers of idiocy. Sitting on their hands during the SOTU on Tuesday night showed the country quite a bit. They hate Trump so much, they would rather see America and the country do poorly. It’s going to be a long 7 years for them.

  185. Stutz Bearcat says:

    Hey Lazer cry me a river putz.

  186. Stutz Bearcat says:

    Waaaaaaaa waaaaaaa Trump cunts.

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