If we learned anything during the last bubble, it’s that this is a sign of a bubble

From Builder Magazine:

HOMES NEAR ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS SHOW STRONG PRICE APPRECIATION

ATTOM Data Solutions today released its 2017 Environmental Hazards Housing Risk Index, which shows that median home prices in U.S. zip codes in the highest 20% for environmental hazard risk appreciated at a faster pace than the overall U.S housing market over the past year, past five years and past 10 years.

For the report, ATTOM Data Solutions analyzed 8,665 U.S. zip codes with sufficient housing trend data for risk related to four environmental hazards: superfund sites, brownfields, polluters and poor air quality.

Median home prices in zip codes in the top environmental hazard risk quintile increased 7.4% from a year ago on average (compared to 7.1% increase nationwide); increased 57.1% from 2012 (compared to 51.1% increase nationwide); and increased 22.2% from 2007 (compared to 12.3% increase nationwide).

“With housing inventory in short supply, even homes in higher-risk zip codes for environmental hazards are in high demand from buyers looking for lower-priced properties and investors looking for the next up-and-coming neighborhood,” said Daren Blomquist, senior vice president with ATTOM Data Solutions. “Buyer demand does seem to have a bit of a limit when it comes to environmental hazards, however. Homes in zip codes with superfunds on the EPA’s national priority list have seen weaker home price appreciation and have higher foreclosure rates than the overall housing market.”

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133 Responses to If we learned anything during the last bubble, it’s that this is a sign of a bubble

  1. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    fristy

  2. Xolepa says:

    Not first. trigger finger was in my nose

  3. Grim says:

    …and back to the states.

  4. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    grim – do the airports abroad really make ours look third world like Trump says?

  5. grim says:

    London Heathrow makes our airports look like shitholes.

  6. Hold my beer says:

    So pumps house has finally appreciated?

  7. Grim says:

    High tension is hot again

  8. Ex-Jersey says:

    One thought, it is not “tenure” which keeps terrible teachers in their jobs, it is cronyism and nepotism at the school board level. Food for thought.

  9. Very Stable Genius says:

    @NayrmanBSC

    Re: all the schools threatening punishment to kids marching/protesting for not potentially getting shot up by a maniac: Go for it.
    Your ‘permanent record’ is a myth. Seriously, no one will give a shit what you did in high school. There’s no secret database. Its empty threats.

  10. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    lol, what if I’m giving a test that period and you walk out? You think that’s going to work well?

  11. Yo! says:

    2018 NJ house price stats rolling in. In January, NJ houses +2%. Hudson +22%. Salem -51%. In Monmouth, -2%.

  12. Yo! says:

    Can NEw Jersey Real Estate Report discuss New Jersey real estate today?

  13. Very Stable Genius says:

    @krassenstein

    If a gunman can walk into a military base like Fort Hood with 100% of the populace ‘highly trained” in firearms use, and still murder 13 people with a pistol, do you honestly think that 20% of teachers having a gun is going to stop the next killer who may have an AR-15?

  14. Very Stable Genius says:

    You are the reason people argue teachers are overpaid

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    February 23, 2018 at 7:44 am
    lol, what if I’m giving a test that period and you walk out? You think that’s going to work well?

  15. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    why? Because I will hold someone responsible for skipping out on a test?

  16. Very Stable Genius says:

    A sheriff’s deputy who was the only armed guard during the Florida school shooting did “nothing” to stop it, the police said. He has resigned.

    Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:30 PM EST

    Scot Peterson, a sheriff’s deputy, resigned on Thursday after Sheriff Scott Israel placed him under an internal affairs investigation for failing to meet the standards of the sheriff’s office. Two other deputies, Edward Eason and Guntis Treijs, have been placed on restricted duty while the department investigates whether they could or should have done more to stop the shooter.

    Police protocol requires confronting shooting suspects as quickly as possible. Mr. Peterson should have “went in, addressed the killer, killed the killer,” Sheriff Israel said at a news conference in in Fort Lauderdale.

  17. nwnj says:

    That guy should take the honorable way out. And I don’t mean resigning.

  18. nwnj says:

    So let’s see. The fbi was warned multiple times. The local police were warned. An armed cop was at the school. Yep only way we could ave stopped this is to take away gun rights.

  19. ex-Jersey says:

    Incredible. We live in truly shitty times.

  20. ex-Jersey says:

    I think the gun rights argument is tired, it’s a shame weapons mfg’s seem to have such a hold on this Country, and if you think you need an arsenal to live … why?

  21. nwnj says:

    Because I don’t trust you and your schemes.

    The rights question here should be how the mentally keep getting guns. Beyond that LO needs to do its job.

  22. nwnj says:

    It’s part of our heritage to have a scepticism of ruling power. The second amendment is the counterweight.

  23. Hold my beer says:

    Yo,

    Do you think any part of Salem county has a chance at becoming a happening place for those 55+ communities? Lots of those places were built in Atlantic and southern ocean counties when land was cheap back in the 90’s.

  24. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    California student arrested with two assault rifles and 90 magazines after security guard overhears shooting threat

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-police-student-arrest-school-shooting-threat-assault-rifle-handguns-el-camino-a8222876.html

  25. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    LOL. I was in the duty free shop at Heathrow when I was about 27 years old. Myself and two buddies were heading back home after 3 weeks in Europe (Belgium, Amsterdam, England, Ireland, Scotland). I had 30 pound sterling left and I knew my gf would be waiting to pick us up at EWR. I happened upon a bottle of Chivas Salute 21 year old Scotch for exactly 30 pounds and bought it. I was amused that someone barreled that batch of Scotch when I was 6 years old just so I could buy it then.

    London Heathrow makes our airports look like shitholes.

  26. JCer says:

    @krassenstein

    If a gunman can walk into a military base like Fort Hood with 100% of the populace ‘highly trained” in firearms use, and still murder 13 people with a pistol, do you honestly think that 20% of teachers having a gun is going to stop the next killer who may have an AR-15?

    This supports my point….a simple semi-auto handgun is actually more dangerous/deadly than an AR-15. Concealed and he got off at least 13 shots before anyone could respond. Since handguns are the predominantly used weapon in crime should that not be the first place to enact gun control? How there is no response when a guy breaks out an weapon and goes into a school, was the door unlocked, did he break in…..there was an armed police officer there? The situation was avoidable but gun control isn’t the big failure here….why that is the media focus and what is being pushed makes the democrats seem really despicable in my eyes. I can’t even understand what kind of legislation they would pass to prevent this, assault rifle bans have always been ineffective, and handguns are more than deadly enough for mass shootings so what gun control legislation is the answer?

  27. 3b says:

    Looks like Hudson Co is the driver for NJ real estate.

  28. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    His house is an environmental hazard.

    So pumps house has finally appreciated?

  29. JCer says:

    On Salem county have you been there? It’s basically alabama and it’s so close to Delaware that the lower taxes make Delaware a more attractive location for most retirees.

  30. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Very Stable Mongoloid – IIRC, that scumbag jihadist killed almost all of those innocent soldiers in an area where firearms were prohibited and he was stopped by those with firearms arriving quickly. So, just like you and school shooters, he was a coward who attacked where he knew there would be armed defense.

    If a gunman can walk into a military base like Fort Hood with 100% of the populace ‘highly trained” in firearms use, and still murder 13 people with a pistol, do you honestly think that 20% of teachers having a gun is going to stop the next killer who may have an AR-15?

  31. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    would not be armed defense.

  32. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I wonder if anyone ever did a study on genetic abnormalities occurring in the children who owned houses on the St. Andrews side of Mount Prospect Ave in Clifton. My Aunt, Uncle, and cousins lived on the other side, a couple doors away from the long steps down to the park. I’ve wondered sometimes over the years about their cognitive development.

    High tension is hot again

  33. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^BTW, My Aunt, Uncle, and their oldest – all died from cancer.

  34. Yo! says:

    Hold,

    NJ can’t compete with Florida and Carolinas for 55+. The situation in Salem appears hopeless. The county’s population hadn’t budged since the 1970s and now is declining rapidly. Good jobs don’t exist within commuting distance and weather means retirees won’t move there.

    Most recent home sale data point in Salem: Sold for $38,000 on 1/31/2018 after selling for $142,900 in 2006.

    Action on another home from 2002: $200,000 $ $140,000 $115,900 $60,000.

    Salem County is becoming the Mississippi Delta of NJ.

  35. Yo! says:

    I’d rather invest in Anbang Longevity Sure Win No. 1 than Salem real estate.

  36. Yo! says:

    January 2018 versus January 2017

    Big surprises are Atlantic and Cumberland.

    Sussex -9%
    Passaic 7%
    Bergen 5%
    Hudson 22%
    Essex 11%
    Morris 4%
    Warren -24%
    Hunterdon -9%
    Somerset -6%
    Union 0%
    Middlesex 6%
    Mercer 10%
    Monmouth -2%
    Ocean 13%
    Burlington -9%
    Camden 1%
    Gloucester 3%
    Atlantic 24%
    Salem -52%
    Cumberland 37%
    Cape May -8%

  37. Hold my beer says:

    Salem county is worse than Atlantic county was in the 90’s? Did not know that. Don’t think I have been to it besides driving through it to get on a bridge.

  38. joyce says:

    Six officers guarding the (former?) cop’s house right now.

  39. Hold my beer says:

    Yo!

    There is a 55+ community being built in my town. The houses are about 1.5 Times the price as similar new construction in my area. And it is getting built out rapidly. I don’t understand the price. Especially since is is built on a busy road. I wonder who would want to pay 400k for a house you can get for 260-300 in a regular community.

  40. leftwing says:

    “The situation was avoidable but gun control isn’t the big failure here….why that is the media focus and what is being pushed makes the democrats seem really despicable in my eyes.”

    Have a great quote I’ll post fully later from CBS This Morning. Hosts were interviewing Margaret Brennan, new host of Face the Nation (big deal for media types). Setup is they are discussing FL and possible responses, specifically regulations v laws and the ability and timeline to implement either.

    As she is discussing the technicalities of legalities of regulations that the President can implement without Congress she slides into this quote:

    “The conversation seems to be shifting to one about purely school safety not as much about gun control”

    Stop and think about that for a second. MSM critical of a focus on “purely school safety”. Rather than just gun control.

    Isn’t school safety the endpoint? Well, the answer is clearly no if you’re from the left, as she distinguishes between the two issues.

    How can the goal be anything but “purely school safety” and “not as much about gun control”? Ask your despicable liberals who use these shootings to advocate for the latter.

    I’ve posited here frequently that the Dems use dead children to advance their political (gun) agenda. I just never expected them to state it so cavalierly.

    I’m sure there can be a chorus of ‘it wasn’t meant that way, it was taken out of context, etc’. BS. At 8:06a this morning, find it. I noted the time as the statement, made so casually, nearly knocked me out of my chair.

    “The conversation seems to be shifting to one about purely school safety not as much about gun control”

  41. Libturd says:

    “I wonder who would want to pay 400k for a house you can get for 260-300 in a regular community.”

    This is how they work. No maintenance needs to be performed by the owners and there is a great big pool and other facilities at the clubhouse in the center of the development. A lot of old people have the money from downsizing, of course.

  42. ex-Jersey says:

    Yeah let’s blame people who don’t like guns for violence by those who do. Winning argument there. Thoughts and prayers.

  43. Libturd says:

    Here’s the solution. If you choose to own a gun and it either falls into the wrong hands or you use it yourself unlawfully. Your punishment is death by your own weapon. We can televise the shooting UFC style on Pay Per View and the profits can go to compensate the families of the murdered. It will be huge.

    How do you dem apples? Seems fair to me.

  44. Libturd says:

    Think we’ll see this again? I saved this certificate of deposit since I always knew it would be incredible.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c-tmeHzpa11FpOXRv4AlssAGP3GylwaR/view?usp=sharing

  45. JCer says:

    lib I’m good with that provided the gun owner acted in a criminal or negligent matter.

  46. Libturd says:

    Maybe I’ll tweet it to El Presidente?

  47. leftwing says:

    “Yeah let’s blame people who don’t like guns for violence by those who do. Winning argument there. Thoughts and prayers.”

    Well that’s about as intellectually rigorous as blaming an inanimate 7lb piece of metal for society’s woes.

    Liberals use dead children to push their narrow political agenda. Demonstrated time and again.

  48. leftwing says:

    Lib, in all seriousness, I made a similar suggestion a few days ago.

    Have the gov’t and NRA sit down. Come up with ‘best practices’ regarding weapon ownership – safes, trigger lock, ammo separate from weapon, etc.

    Hold the owner criminally and civilly liable if they don’t follow these procedures. They are immune from both if they do.

    There is no reason the mother of the Sandy Hook shooter shoot not be locked up for multiple counts of murder and her assets distributed to the victims’ families.

    This simple change will dramatically change the profile of weapons available to disturbed individuals. It does not, however, satisfy the liberal thirst to take people’s weapons.

  49. Ex-Jersey says:

    Leftwing you have shown yourself to be the true conservative dick-bag that I always knew you were. Liberty loving scared little punk ass bitch, sleeps with your rifle like grandad did…..

  50. Ex-Jersey says:

    I’m sick of people acting like GUNS are a moral argument. GUNS are devices designed for killing things. Lately I have seen some real stretches in morality and I have watched ‘moral’ bigots spew their hatred through Russian Bots. You are the least of the lot. I do not want imbeciles like you directing policy, yet here we have it. The GOP will be laid bare by continued poor leadership and the fact that they are vacuous morally bankrupt posers.

  51. leftwing says:

    Here’s another…..social media search as part of the FIL clearance process.

    If you have ever referenced shooting somebody, revenge shooting anything, or made physical threats of harm no gun purchase for you.

    Gov’t could probably co-opt the major social media platforms into maintaining the database themselves. A little request with a nod and wink that if you don’t want to help the govt may view you as a public utility, subject to regulation.

    Two really easy fixes that would have prevented a legal weapon in the hands of both maniacs at Sandy Hook and FL.

    Would have prevented FL even with the massive cascade of downstream failures at the federal, local, and school level.

  52. leftwing says:

    “Leftwing you have shown yourself to be the true conservative dick-bag that I always knew you were. Liberty loving scared little punk ass bitch, sleeps with your rifle like grandad did…..”

    Little Jersey girlie boy. Oh my god a gun!! Eeeeeh! Where’s my leased 320i? I need to run!!! Eeeeeeehhh!!

    LOL.

  53. Ex-Jersey says:

    Stupid arguments. By stupid People. Using old, stupid insults. Scared of nothing, but know enough to understand the likelihood of you or someone that you love will be hurt/killed by a gun that you own if you own one.

  54. Ex-Jersey says:

    ..and that is my wife’s 328…I drive a Subaru Outback. Putz.

  55. leftwing says:

    “I drive a Subaru Outback.”

    LOLOLOLOLOL. And THAT was thoroughly predictable.

    What was it before, a Volvo diesel? LOLOLOL.

  56. Ex-Jersey says:

    I’m pretty sure a lot of you cubicle kings would fold just like that veteran cop did if you were ever in the position to USE your precious weapons. Because that would mean you would have to put yourself out there and risk something for someone else.

  57. Ex-Jersey says:

    Car insults really don’t bother me, I’ve driven everything from Porsches to Fords and I live in a place where you regularly see 1m plus cars, the Outback is perfect for out here. The roads suck usually, they have 8.5″ ground clearance which is as much as a Jeep wrangler. Car insults….how fukcing juvenile. Yeah, you are the guy I want with high powered firearms……

  58. Hannibal Lektor was a great cook says:

    What that school needed that day, was the most abusive/not rule follower/big disciplinary cop, which mean he would have highly sociopathic tendencies, and those sociopathic shark like tendencies would have laser focus on that d!psh!t r3tard kid.

  59. Bystander says:

    Funny how Congress basically banned alcohol for 13 years based on pressure from religious groups yet mass killing after killing can’t even get a small gun show loophole closed. Of course, I also think the 2nd amendment said right to bear arms, ie right to own what is available to you, not that you have a right to have high powered assault rifles. Gun lovers argument is tired and old. Ban assault rifle manufacturing, grandfather is those that have legal permits and see what happens over next 5 years. It ain’t working now and this chorus of “it’s mental illness to blame” from the right is hogwash unless willing to spend on healthcare. Go check your benefits plan, most have tight limits on mental health visits. Also, anyone in NJ want to pay for more cops in schools and their gold pensions. I thought not. Start with assault ban. It is time.

  60. leftwing says:

    Says the guy who started a personal juvenile tirade at 12:00pm, LOL.

    Stereotypes exist for a reason, panty waist.

  61. Ex-Jersey says:

    Leftwing, really? panty waist? Let’s agree to say that your dumbass has a hell of a lot to learn. Enjoy the day. It’s going to be 70 outside and I think I will go ride on an American motorcycle. I’ll be sure to notice every make and model of car that I pass and judge the occupant on their appearance and their driving skills. I will also make assumptions about their income and covet their partner. F8ckhead.

  62. Libturd says:

    There are protests being arranged across the country by students across the country. Regardless of which side of the argument you are on, I honestly think this protest will have some traction. Especially since it will not be a wholly blue state protest and it does not pertain only to minorities (snicker). Now may be the time to trade in your gun stocks for some actual guns. :P

  63. Libturd says:

    “judge the occupant on their appearance”

    One of my favorite pass times.

  64. Bystander says:

    The other BS is this argument “ban swimming pools” as they kill more kids than guns. Sorry but being witness to groups of students, teachers (or fellow concert goers, movie goers, church goers) being slaughtered in front of you is a little different than one person not showing up next day. I know media loves counting kills but injured and even non-injured participants will be impacted forever. That is undeniable imho.

  65. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I’m pretty sure a lot of you cubicle kings would fold just like that veteran cop did if you were ever in the position to USE your precious weapons. Because that would mean you would have to put yourself out there and risk something for someone else.

    What we did see is that the teacher’s didn’t fold. In fact, some of them ran towards the situation and paid with their lives.

  66. leftwing says:

    “Start with assault ban. It is time.”

    Just do something that will work. This is not it.

    Problem in my view, personal politics aside, is the second these things happen the Left runs immediately to ‘ban’. That then causes the Right to run to ‘hell no’.

    There is a huge gulf in between that (i) would actually work and (ii) could be implemented by the middle.

    What is so wrong with strict liability for owners and mental health screening? Why not start there? Doable, and certainly won’t make things worse.

  67. leftwing says:

    By, OK, so let’s reach way back to Ethics 101……

    A life is worth less if it is extinguished quietly rather than publicly and gruesomely?

    How many quiet lives lost are equal to one public and gruesome death? Three? Four? What’s the ratio?

  68. Ex-Jersey says:

    12:52 I taught for 14 years and I did corporate sales for 12 years — The quality of the people I met that were teachers far far far surprised the idiots I knew/know in the Tech World. Bunch of self-absorbed cry-babies the Corp people. Similar to the lot on this page.

  69. Ex-Jersey says:

    “surprised”…surpassed…..surpassed the idiots. They were smarter, more alive, more interesting and had better minds. That is a fact baby.

  70. Ex-Jersey says:

    ..and Libtard, …we mock others in cars as well. It is pure sport out this way…..Looks are everything, but not everyone can be jen aniston….bahahhahaa

  71. Ex-Jersey says:

    I need to go outside, perhaps I will take the Pegoretti out for a spin. That actually has some health benefits…..

  72. Libturd says:

    I own a big wheel.

  73. Bystander says:

    Left,

    Personally, I want those things and assault ban but would be happy with some movement. Your other post is called diluting the issue. Pools (and cars and boats) have distinct recreational intents but their use is not risk free. Life is a risk. Guns are strictly intended for shooting and killing things. High powered, high mag weapons are intended for shooting and killing lots of things quickly. They have no other purpose. Cmon now.

  74. ex-Jersey says:

    1:05…a big wheel was the bomb in ’76

  75. Mike S says:

    @Yo! – where can I see this data?

  76. joyce says:

    Bystander,

    “Of course, I also think the 2nd amendment said right to bear arms, ie right to own what is available to you”

    Doesn’t this mean the government can ban everything if they want?

  77. Hold my beer says:

    It’s official. Ex-jersey has terrible taste

  78. leftwing says:

    “Your other post is called diluting the issue.”

    Or compromise.

    I keep hearing everyone lamenting that there have been so many shootings and nothing gets done. When an extreme position is taken by one side, the other side responds with its own extreme. With respect to this issue, for sure, but even generally in most interactions….

    So, again, strict liability and mental health screening would seem to be two actions that at the very least would not make more of these instances more likely.

    Given such, will the left drop its hard line demand for a ban and back these two proposals. To ‘get something done’.

    Or are they simply more interested in getting exactly what they want?

  79. Yo! says:

    “HOMES NEAR ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS SHOW STRONG APPRECIATION”

    True in NJ, with Hudson County’s home price performance.

    Mike S – njar-public.stats.10kresearch.com/reports

  80. Bystander says:

    Joyce,

    Unfortunately it could be but then again restrictions exist everywhere. I can’t yell Fire in a crowded theatre but I can get a gun that we allow me to shoot the sh#t out of it.

  81. chicagofinance says:

    I built a business worth seven figures with NO HELP…..by the sheer force of my perseverance ……. put my wife through hell to do it…… all the while seeing scumbags taking shortcuts and fcuking people over…….. go fcuk yourself…..

    Very Stable Genius says:
    February 22, 2018 at 1:00 pm
    you got into those schools and by all accounts you haven’t accomplished anything impressive in your life. so I don’t know what’s the big deal about them

    chicagofinance says:
    February 22, 2018 at 12:25 pm
    Your son will appreciate watching them completely coast through school and if they take standardized tests reasonably well…..not even great, then watch Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown & Dartmouth bend over backward to lavish the goodies are them at minimal cost……. then your son will have the pleasure of seeing these people on Facebook 30 years later post the most vitriolic, nauseating, partisan crap without remorse. Thick with how much they have been wronged and railing against white privilege, meanwhile completely blind to the red carpet that has been rolled out to them their entire lives……….

  82. ex-Jersey says:

    1:22 surely you jest….i am an aesthete.

  83. Libturd says:

    Chi,

    You are arguing with a guy who flew for over 10 hours to one of the most beautiful places on earth, but rather than enjoy some of the most incredible natural surroundings, instead dined with Chip ‘n’ Dale.

  84. Hold my beer says:

    Ex-jersey

    I’m not jesting. And don’t call me Shirley .

  85. Trick says:

    1:05…a big wheel was the bomb in ’76

    I preferred the green machine

  86. Libturd says:

    The green machine let you do better burnouts, but the Big Wheel had a far superior turning radius.

  87. joyce says:

    I agree that restrictions are everywhere (unfortunately), but that in of itself does not support placing restrictions elsewhere. Again for the record, I support making some of the changes mentioned here the last few days but it has to be done the right way. I’ve posted multiple times here that in my opinion it’s of the upmost importance to follow the law legislatively and administratively. The constitution is supposed to be the highest law, and in order to enact certain changes it must be amended. Ignoring that process leads to things like selective enforcement of laws, consolidation of power in the executive branch, and other horrible effects. And sorry to be a stickler, yes you can probably tell fire in a crowded theater:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/264449/

    Bystander says:
    February 23, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    Joyce,

    Unfortunately it could be but then again restrictions exist everywhere. I can’t yell Fire in a crowded theatre but I can get a gun that we allow me to shoot the sh#t out of it.

  88. Angry! says:

    If you want to ban firearms or not… whatever… but for the love of all that is holy STOP CALLING THEM ASSAULT RIFLES.

    Its a completely made up political word!! It has no way to be enforced!! Its the difference between a red sports car and black one, and saying the red one should be illegal but the black one is OK.

    If you cannot specifically say what you want made illegal, get out to the range and learn enough about what you want to ban so you actually BAN IT. Stop being ignorant.

    :)

  89. Mike S says:

    @Yo! – thanks

  90. JCer says:

    Exactly Angry!, what are we talking about we had an “Assault Rifle Ban”, it didn’t work mostly because it was ill conceived. It will be like last time when Tec9’s were banned so they modified the gun slightly to not be banned and AR-15’s were not banned but similar guns were. The constant media coverage with bad facts is really tiresome, I’m not a gun guy(never owned one but learned to shoot as a child and have been hunting) but even I know what they are stating is incorrect. AR-15’s are not high powered, in fact they aren’t typically used for hunting because they won’t drop a large deer, .30-06 bolt action rifle is the gun of choice for hunting game and is WAY more powerful than the .223 caliber AR-15. So unless the ban is an all out ban on semi-auto rifles I don’t see how it stops the shooting and restricting the clip size is dumb, people will just illegally obtain or make bigger clips for a mass shooting.

    I still stand by my assessment that hand guns are the more effective weapon for mass shootings and these idiots are using AR-15’s because they look cool and the ban will just result in using hand guns.

  91. Juice Box says:

    Story about firearms.

    Recently retired relative got into car accident, lost focus while driving so he went to Doctor to see what was wrong. Turns out he has Parkinson’s and was put on meds. Drivers license in his state automatically suspended because he is now a danger behind the wheel. Alone in the burbs, no drivers license and a possible fatal disease depression then sets in. He then decides to take out the firearm and off himself before Parkinson’s stage 3,4 or 5 sets in. Pulls the trigger but at the last second chickens out and misses. The bullet travels through the house and into neighbors home, barely missing neighbor. Was arrested, but neighbor feeling bad I guess does not press charges.

    How the F can they only suspend his driving privileges and not take away the damm firearm? Someone who is incapacitated mentally and physically do to disease and meds is incapacitated they should not be allowed to own firearms.

  92. Yo! says:

    Chicagofinance, are you a realtor?

  93. No One says:

    What’s funny is when the talking heads on the many increasingly left-wing resist Trump news networks cover the story about how Russian propaganda agents use social media and fake news & memes to divide foreign societies into warring factions, and then they are not self-aware enough to see that 50% of their “news” is them basically serving as pawns for Russia’s game, and much more powerfully than any facebook memes in October/Nov 2016. They are reporting the Russian gameplan, and don’t even realize they are the ones who are most actively fulfilling the chaos that plan envisioned.

    Also, don’t buy houses in crap locations like waste dumps or busy streets. The smell and the noise will forever remind you that you should have studied harder in school, gotten that extra degree, and passed the CPA exam, so you could have afforded to live somewhere nicer, instead of being a loser who claims he has a rich social life, when actually he just writes irritating comments on an online blog where most people hate you.

  94. leftwing says:

    “I still stand by my assessment that hand guns are the more effective weapon for mass shootings and these idiots are using AR-15’s because they look cool and the ban will just result in using hand guns.”

    Yes. Shooter can conceal two handguns in the inside pockets of a jacket easily, and clips in a bookbag. AR used because of looks by shooters who are emasculated, troubled boys.

    “How the F can they only suspend his driving privileges and not take away the damm firearm? Someone who is incapacitated mentally and physically do to disease and meds is incapacitated they should not be allowed to own firearms.”

    Yes again.

  95. chicagofinance says:

    Cars……which is worse?

    Getting stuck behind a Bentley with his kid taking his time at Elementary School queue this morning dropping off my kids.

    -OR-

    Almost getting run down just now by an RBC girl driving a Maserati and blasting auto-tuned rap music out the windows……..

  96. chicagofinance says:

    finance guy from Chicago……

    Yo! says:
    February 23, 2018 at 3:10 pm
    Chicagofinance, are you a realtor?

  97. Libturd says:

    Bentley…especially if it’s Drake they were blasting. Gods Plan is the worst piece of crap released since Cell Phone. I hope he shoots himself. I’d rather listen to Fetty Wop over and over again than anything from Drake. That man singlehandedly ruined a genre.

  98. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I’m more of a rock and roll guy myself but I can go back and listen to some 70s funk or early 90s hip hop. Amazing how far down the tubes music has gone the past 20 years.

    Loved Naughty by Nature, NJ natives

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0LuoFqvrmU

  99. Hold my beer says:

    Drove to Austin a few weeks ago listening to a top 40 station for the first time in years. Imagine dragons was the only group that didn’t make me want to pour molten lava into my ears.

  100. chicagofinance says:

    BRT: back when I listened to rap, the big issue was how crappy most artists sounded out of the studio. Live, they generally employed a second rapper to shadow their voices and give them more force.

    Anyway, I was never a huge LL Cool J fan, but he totally brought the goods here, and further created a new genre, because this was one of the first examples of presenting rap in a rock-pop format…… completely innovative….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POcxCvxq4FQ

  101. Hold my beer says:

    Chifi,

    Beastie boys licensed to ill.

    I think ice t had a rap rock album too.

    After that trip I played Guns N’ Roses, joe c0cker, cat Stevens, and meatloaf for my kids. They now agree current music sucks in comparison. They laughed at the beastie boys videos.

  102. Libturd says:

    I would say that the Beastie Boys would not have happened if not for the transformation of LL. Though Biz and Run DMC were probably in the mix as well. The stuff that passes for hip hop today is pure trash. One repeating sample and the lyrics don’t even make sense or rhyme in most cases.

  103. chicagofinance says:

    LL Cool J was more the gateway for stuff like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, and this….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1hgXfX5-U

  104. Libturd says:

    I have everything Cat Stevens ever wrote. That freak could write and sing. The dude from 30 Seconds from Mars sort of reminds me of him, but only on his new hit Walk on Water.

  105. ex-Jersey says:

    Ice Cube played Lollapalooza in 92….kind of meh.

    Soundgarden and Pearl Jam killed it.

  106. Libturd says:

    I snuck in that year. I waded through a river in Stanhope and with a whole bunch of other broke college kids, we all jumped the fence and ran into the muddy mosh pit which instantly disguised us. It was quite the seen. There had to be about 100 of us and two security guards. It was pretty funny. My buddy Eric took one of the guards hat’s as he ran by them.

    That was a great show. The white kids loved Ice Cube, but Rage I thought stole the show. Ministry was pretty cool too. I was never a Pearl Jam junkie. Could never hear the lyrics.

  107. Hold my beer says:

    Libturd,

    If you go on YouTube and type “cat Stevens npr tiny desk concert” he does 4 or 5 songs in npr’s office in nyc and sounds just like his albums. I think that session is only from a few years ago.

  108. Libturd sporting Tiger Wood says:

    Exactly Chi!

  109. ex-Jersey says:

    Best show i caught in that era: Nirvana
    Oceanside in Miami. Killed it. So to speak.

  110. Juice Box says:

    re: “finance guy from Chicago……”

    been saving that one for a while eh?

    closet queens?

  111. Juice Box says:

    woodstock 94

    My brother broke his arm in the Mud Mosh.

    I am in this vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKen34wdYE

  112. chicagofinance says:

    Nice….. how was NIN?

  113. Autobahn fun fun fun on the says:

    Yay, NJ number 3

    https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2015/10/the-geography-of-car-deaths-in-america/410494/

    Ps
    5:04pm … ConservativeFart
    Clearly you’re not actually listening to new hip hop cos that’s not even what the Grammy nods sound like; time to go to the library, get an album and hear what the newer generations are saying in their voice. “Gawd this daft punk doesn’t sound like kraftwerk”

  114. chicagofinance says:

    Captain Cheapo: Amazon Prime members get 5% back on the Amazon credit card. They just extended it to Whole Foods…….

  115. Hold my beer says:

    So after your 5% back at Whole Foods you are only over paying by 63%?

  116. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I didn’t know ex-jersey was a lesbian.

    ““I drive a Subaru Outback.””

  117. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    No, 1994-2004 was the time. It happened. It did nothing to reduce murders.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

    Start with assault ban. It is time.

  118. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    It depends what color they are. There are lots of crying mothers of gun-murdered adolescents every month of the year in Chicago, but none of them are ever filmed by the “news”.

    How many quiet lives lost are equal to one public and gruesome death? Three? Four? What’s the ratio?

  119. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Wow, that’s interesting data. I would say that D.C. doesn’t count because that’s like calling one dense city a state. It’s also interesting that my current state, MA, is 2nd best at 4.9, and then it’s a pretty big jump to NJ and the next several states, all virtually tied at 6.1-6.3. Having lived in NJ, NY, NH, and MA I can hazard a guess why MA does best and I noticed it as soon as we moved to this area: Everyone drives fast in MA. I’m a fast driver myself and and ex race car driver and I immediately noticed the safety difference because MA highways are more like a racetrack in that all of the vehicles travel at similar speeds. In the NJ/NY/CT metro area there seems to be a much wider diversity of chosen travel speeds which, I think, results in more dangerous situations.

    Yay, NJ number 3

    https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2015/10/the-geography-of-car-deaths-in-america/410494/

  120. The Original NJ ExPat says:
  121. Ex-Jersey says:

    Trump is a weak man’s vision of what A Strong Man should be like.

  122. Joe Jersey says:

    Yo!

    Did you look at each report for each county and write down the percentage gain/loss or is there a report that lists each county like you did? Thanks.

  123. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “You are correct. There would be no need for Abbott funding (or less of it) if tax abatements weren’t handed out willly nilly in JC.

    Thus, in effect, we (taxpayers of NJ) have subsidized much of the downtown development.“

  124. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Think. Feel. Drive. Get Panties in a Knot.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2AIilLuBqg

  125. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Favorite Caribbean island vacation?

    Portland Maine….worth a trip?

  126. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Favorite things to do in Chicago?

  127. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Maybe next Winter Olympics the network can dedicate a channel or two exclusively to what guys like me want to watch:

    hockey, curling, and anything judged solely by speed and/or firearms handling.

  128. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Try getting shot and killed. It’ll be a positive, life-changing event for all of us.

    Favorite things to do in Chicago?

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