I say flip it, flip it good

From Bloomberg:

Home Flippers Pile Into the U.S. Market, Scoring Higher Profits

Property investors were bullish on the U.S. housing market in 2017, flipping more homes than in any year since 2006, when the real estate bubble that helped upend the global economy was still inflating.

Investors flipped more than 207,000 single-family houses and condos in the U.S. last year, Attom Data Solutions said in a report, which defines flips as sales that occur within 12 months of the last time the property changed hands. More than 138,000 investors flipped a home last year, the most since 2007.

“The long up-cycle that we’re in is giving more and more people confidence to try their hand at home-flipping,” said Daren Blomquist, senior vice president at Attom. Rising home prices are “pulling more people onto the bandwagon.”

Today’s home flippers appear to be more conservative than bubble-era investors. The average flip generated gross returns of 50 percent in 2017, compared to 28 percent in 2006. Thirty-five percent of flippers financed their acquisitions last year, the highest share since 2008 but far lower than the 63 percent who used loans in 2006.

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137 Responses to I say flip it, flip it good

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    First I’ll let the next guy to do the message

  2. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Crack that flip
    Give the past the slip
    Step on a crack
    Break your momma’s back

    When a problem comes along (You must flip it)
    Before the cream sits out too long (You must flip it)
    When something’s going wrong (You must flip it)

    Now flip it
    Into shape
    Shape it up
    Get straight
    Go forward
    Move ahead
    Try to detect it
    It’s not too late
    To flip it
    flip it good!

    When a good time turns around (You must flip it)
    You will never live it down (Unless you flip it)
    No one gets away (Until they flip it)

    I say flip it
    flip it good!
    I say flip it
    flip it good!

    Crack that flip
    Give the past the slip
    Step on a crack
    Break your momma’s back

    When a problem comes along (You must flip it)
    Before the cream sits out too long (You must flip it)
    When something’s going wrong (You must flip it)

    Now flip it
    Into shape
    Shape it up
    Get straight
    Go forward
    Move ahead
    Try to detect it
    It’s not too late
    To flip it

    Into shape
    Shape it up
    Get straight
    Go forward
    Move ahead
    Try to detect it
    It’s not too late
    To flip it
    flip it good!

  3. Hold my beer says:

    A song jj would love

  4. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    We have about 6 inches of light and fluffy snow in my section of Boston. This baffles me because the temperature never even got down to freezing, 33 right now. At what temperature do you get heavy, wet snow?

  5. grim says:

    This storm is no match for the monster 13hp snowblower, god damn this thing is a tank. Eats through 2 feet like nothing.

    Had to swap the head this past summer, didn’t want to sink any money into it, now I’m going to see if I can retrofit a 15 hp engine to it. Worth every penny if even out for one storm a year.

  6. grim says:

    Dug myself out at about 5:30 to get more gas for the snowblower (she drinks 2 gallons an hour).

    Trees down everywhere, hanging off of power lines everywhere. Every curbside shade-tree is pulling on the lines. Saw a couple of cars smashed by trees. Crazy because it was absolutely beautiful outside when the sun started coming up. Super quiet.

    Little AWD Honda HRV did as good a job through the unplowed streets as my old Subie did. A little more ground clearance would have been nice though.

  7. Bloomberg News says:

    Some continued positive news in Essex County:

    “County taxes are going up only 0.75 percent this year,” officials stated. “This contributes to the 1.65 percent increase over the last 16 years.”

    I find the plan to reduce the debt by 2026 promising:

    “Over the last seven years, Essex County has held the increase in property taxes to about 1.65 percent, which is under the state cap of 2 percent.

    Over the last 16 years, Essex County has held the increase in property taxes to about 2.5 percent, which is the fifth-lowest percentage rate of increase of all New Jersey counties behind Hunterdon, Monmouth, Burlington and Somerset counties.

    In 2007, DiVincenzo implemented an initiative to stabilize the county’s debt service by refinancing existing debt without extending its maturity date and limiting the amount of new debt to a maximum of $20 million annually. In 2018, the debt service payment is $111.8 million, which will be reduced to just $37.3 million in 2026.”

    https://www.tapinto.net/towns/nutley/articles/essex-county-executive-presents-budget-proposal-f-4

  8. grim says:

    Joey D not spend money? CMON.

  9. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    With the added benefit that nobody mistakes you for a l3sbian.

    Little AWD Honda HRV did as good a job through the unplowed streets as my old Subie did. A little more ground clearance would have been nice though.

  10. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Joey D not spend money? CMON.,/del> Fuhgeddaboutit!

  11. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Damn it.
    Joey D not spend money? CMON. Fuhgeddaboutit!

  12. grim says:

    With the added benefit that nobody mistakes you for a l3sbian.

    Don’t see why that would be a problem.

  13. chicagofinance says:
  14. chicagofinance says:

    Your friggin’ date is one b!tch of a tease…… you have a really short c0ck though…..

    Leftwing says:
    March 7, 2018 at 9:45 pm
    In Manhattan, said fcuk it. 75 minutes to get in. 3 inches and wet here.

  15. Libturd says:

    I saw that too.

  16. Leftwing says:

    Lol chi good one. Not me, it was just super tight ;)

  17. Trick says:

    route 46 sucked this am,
    30 minutes to drive 30 miles on rt80, then over an hour to go 2 miles on 46.

  18. D-FENS says:

    Route 24 east was completely impassable last night. Effectively shut down there were so many cars/trucks stuck on the road.

  19. Juice Box says:

    Anyone ever take an Uber a 4am to EWR? I have a 6 AM flight to MIA and I don’t want them to ditch my ride.

  20. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I just got an email from a headhunter courting me for a mail room job. I have to be able to lift 25 pounds plus have a drivers license and a reliable car. I was also told “Your expertise aligns well with the essential capabilities our client needs to drive success on this initiative.” I responded as follows:

    Hi Patrick,

    I did work in a mail room in the early 1980’s but I kind of gave that type of work up when I graduated with my engineering degree in 1984.

    Thanks for thinking of me though.

    BTW, I did like that mail room job though. They gave me a brand new 1980 Chevy van with a V8 engine, air conditioning, and a gas credit card! That was heaven on earth when I was 20 years old. Even at $4 per hour I thought I was rich because my share of the rent on my college apartment was only $80 per month. Good times, good times.

    Best,
    ExPat

  21. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Mine is also 3 inches, but some girls like ’em that wide.

    Your friggin’ date is one b!tch of a tease…… you have a really short c0ck though…..

    Leftwing says:
    March 7, 2018 at 9:45 pm
    In Manhattan, said fcuk it. 75 minutes to get in. 3 inches and wet here.

  22. Fast Eddie says:

    Power out for about 12 hours – lucky to have it back now.

  23. No One says:

    I listened to Devo’s “Freedom of Choice” album many times in my youth.

  24. Juice Box says:

    Eat Clean Bro pays for the drunk college kids UBER ride from West Virginia to NJ.

    Interesting they want to be another startup like Urban Remedy, Sunbasket etc however their target audience isn’t hipsters or crunchy granola types it is drunk college kids or the GTL crowd ala Jersey Shore show..

    http://www.fox5atlanta.com/national-news/company-will-pay-mans-drunken-1600-uber-fare

  25. chicagofinance says:

    Did you boil cabbage to keep the house warm?

    Fast Eddie says:
    March 8, 2018 at 11:43 am
    Power out for about 12 hours – lucky to have it back now.

  26. JCer says:

    Is Fast Eddie also a Pollock?

  27. Juice Box says:

    re: “cabbage”

    What do you call an Albanian with a goat under each arm? A pimp!

  28. Ex-Jersey says:

    11:33 while I agree with the sentiment I doubt the Bot cared.

  29. Bystander says:

    Pat,

    You are being nice. As someone actively looking for a decent paying job, I’ve had to withhold hitting send on simple “F*ck you” message numerous times, particularly the ones that pay $20 hr in Omaha where an Indian says my skills are needed asap.

  30. chicagofinance says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B94lP-fZyLk

    Juice Box says:
    March 8, 2018 at 2:18 pm
    re: “cabbage”
    What do you call an Albanian with a goat under each arm? A pimp!

  31. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    If I have to drive in blizzard conditions I always avoid highways with large elevation changes. I know my vehicle can make it through the snow, but that does you know good if enough other vehicles can’t. While living in Nutley I once had to be in Long Island (where I had a place) for Monday morning but a blizzard was coming in fast and furious Sunday evening. No way was I going to hazard the Cross Bronx Expwy. No shoulders and enough undulating hills that 5 ill-equipped vehicles could easily close the highway down. Instead I drove in about 8 inches of snow through the Lincoln Tunnel, through Manhattan and through the Queens-Midtown tunnel. When I got through the Q-M my eyes beheld something I had never seen before: A completely empty Long Island Expressway! I had the pleasure of driving on snow at 60+ mph because I had 5 flat lanes all to myself.

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    Jobs up 313,000, economy sizzling, tariffs level playing field, Trump to meet the fat boy… that’s a few days worth of work. I’m sure CNN and MSNBC are talking about Stormy Daniels or are we back to the Russian fake news for a few days?

  33. nwnj says:

    Toys r us circling the drain. Nj pols want to give amazon $7b to help bury them.

    Bad news for Wayne RE.

  34. Juice Box says:

    Get rich or die trying.

    These cryptocoin miners are becoming a real threat.

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-security-microsoft-fights-massive-cryptocoin-miner-malware-outbreak/

  35. D-FENS says:

    Gun Control Protest Fail

    Democratic candidate saws up her husband’s AR-15 in video protest….is investigated by the ATF for creating a Short Barrel Rifle.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/08/virginia-karen-mallard-marjory-stoneman-douglas-high-school/

  36. Ex-Jersey says:

    9:00 it will end in tears.

  37. nwnj says:

    I guess the bogus collusion story is now running on fumes. Fake news now so desperate it relies on drunks and pron stars as sources.

  38. Fast Eddie says:

    9:00 it will end in tears.

    As he wipes woeful, teary streaks of eye liner from his cheeks while staring at his Hilary poster.

  39. Libturd says:

    I’m naming my next kid Stormy.

  40. nwnj says:

    If trump denuclearizes noko he is on track to be one of the most accomplished presidents in history. Dope smoker in chief who was fawned over did nothing.

  41. Fast Eddie says:

    Oblama’s failures are glaring. He talked a game and most fell for it. He really was an empty suit. Perception is reality.

  42. nwnj says:

    He’s now collecting millions from the bankers whose crimes he looked the other way on. That’s something.

  43. Ex-Jersey says:

    9:22 years for you buddy, i don’t give a shit

  44. Ex-Jersey says:

    9:27 Kim is not inviting Trump so that he can surrender North Korea’s weapons. Kim is inviting Trump to demonstrate that his investment in nuclear and missile capabilities has forced the United States to treat him as an equal.”

  45. nwnj says:

    Let’s wait and see but I ca tel you’ve fallen for the media trap of perceiving every single thing he does as president as a negative. He’s done a lot and people outside of the fake news echo chamber know it too

  46. Fast Eddie says:

    Dems like using the poor to vote for the rich by telling them that other rich people are the reason they’re poor.

  47. Ex-Jersey says:

    Dems like ice cream, puppies, and chicks with big tits.

  48. Fast Eddie says:

    9:42,

    Wrong. It’s because they’re depleted, the sanctions are killing them and they will run out of foreign currency by the fall.

  49. No One says:

    Best thing about Trump is that now democrats are willing to pretend that they are in favor of free trade and against dealing with communists or ex-communists.

  50. Ex-Jersey says:

    Best thing about Trump is that he’s egg’ed all of the imbeciles and complete racists f*cks out into the sunlight. Once the glare shifts from the inevitable backlash and the pendulum decides to go the other way, because it will, the scum will have no where to run.

  51. Ex-Jersey says:

    Trump tanks different stocks every week. Must be difficult to make recommendations on a given sector with his stupid rantings. The guy sucks on sooooo many levels. What I find hilarious and somewhat strange is how incredibly unhappy you folks must have been through Obama’s tenure. That 8 years of teeth grinding hatred. Sure I hate Trump more than most, but mostly because he’s a huuuuuge douchebag.

  52. Phoenix says:

    Maybe the visit is all about comparing button sizes..

    Ex-Jersey says:
    March 9, 2018 at 9:42 am
    9:27 Kim is not inviting Trump so that he can surrender North Korea’s weapons. Kim is inviting Trump to demonstrate that his investment in nuclear and missile capabilities has forced the United States to treat him as an equal.”

  53. Ex-Jersey says:

    BTW, the Dems ‘are’ a joke and they deserve to lose, I’ve said this before but I hail from the Southland, which means I lean Democratic but have some very real family values. Married Once. Intend to stay that way. Believe in education but know it doesn’t usually come from the schools, although I had a decent education even below the Mason Dixon. I also firmly believe is large delicious areoles…………oh yaaaaaas

  54. Ex-Jersey says:

    because I think the DEMs are morons doesn’t mean I would turn over the castle to the GOP you can see how that is working. Not well. Checks and balances are fine with me. Let a little partisan gridlock keep these mouth breathers from screwing anything up too badly.

  55. D-FENS says:

    Steel Tariffs, Cozying up to India, encouraging domestic oil production…etc. all part of a plan to exert pressure on Russia/China ….and thereby bring NoKo to the table.

    Ex-Jersey says:
    March 9, 2018 at 9:42 am
    9:27 Kim is not inviting Trump so that he can surrender North Korea’s weapons. Kim is inviting Trump to demonstrate that his investment in nuclear and missile capabilities has forced the United States to treat him as an equal.”

  56. Fast Eddie says:

    MSNBC headline: Trump made North Korea decision because of Stormy

    LMAO!!

  57. Ex-Jersey says:

    I think the main difference between democrats and republicans is that we like natural breasts whereas the GOP they like implants. Pretty much sums it up for me. Your embarrassment in Chief will never have a term untainted by the stench of his personal life and personality.

  58. Ex-Jersey says:

    Tanks Mr President for making it great to be a pervert again!

  59. Juice Box says:

    Ex-Jersey – what were your feelings when Gennifer Flowers came forward? Did you still vote for Bill? I mean “60 Minutes” gave them an audience of 50 million after the Superbowl to refute and lie on TV about his 12 year affair, which he he later admitted to.

    Most Democrats agreed back then in 1992 with Bill Clinton when he said that affairs were between a man and his wife.

    Here is the transcript. For the Democrats they still voted from him in the primary and the general election even though he admitted he was an adulter and caused “pain” in his marriage on live TV.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/flowers012792.htm

  60. Ex-Jersey says:

    Bill was a Rhodes Scholar and pretty decent diplomat. His speaking skills were off the charts. As a raging heterosexual I was unphased. I think he was a wee bit stupid and left the office in a bit of a cloud….but never affected my vote. But I wasn’t aligned with evangelicals and white supremacy either. Black folks liked him and he seemed to like them. That probably bugs the shit out of you.

  61. Ex-Jersey says:

    Trump’s nepotism is off the charts btw. Yet somehow that’s OK.

  62. JCer says:

    At least the Gennifer Flowers thing was consensual and she wasn’t bad looking(probably the only decent looking women Clinton had an affair with). Doesn’t make his numerous assaults any better. I’m the first to admit Bill Clinton had a pretty good presidency, he was much more of a centrist and really breathed life into the democratic party. Obama’s shift to the left will wind up being catastrophic for the Dems. Clinton was able to work with the Republicans and they kept him in check, there was stability. Bush Jr and Obama were both clowns, Trump is like a game show host from Telemundo.

    All things considered, objectively Trump is doing a better job than Obama did by this point. Despite being hellbent on undoing all things done by Obama and trying to destroy the environment. Politically he is winning.

  63. Fast Eddie says:

    Clinton was able to work with the Republicans and they kept him in check, there was stability.

    Agree.

    All things considered, objectively Trump is doing a better job than Obama did by this point.

    Agree.

  64. Ex-Jersey says:

    Obama’s Presidency began with the worst financial disaster since the 30’s….

  65. Fast Eddie says:

    Obama’s Presidency began with the worst financial disaster since the 30’s….

    And did nothing with it. It would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. GDP was anemic during has regime and the only president to not have 3% GDP while having a clean slate to work with. There was no place to go but up and he didn’t seize the moment – a true sign of a weakling. I knew he was a paper tiger the moment he announced a beer summit.

  66. JCer says:

    And he handled it with all the grace and skill of Herbert Hoover!

  67. JCer says:

    Back to objectivity Obama’s presidency was a forgettable one. The financial world collapsed, the perpetrators were bailed out and got to keep their toys, the economy did not fully recover in the Obama period. On foreign policy we got embroiled all over the world, Osama was killed on Obama’s watch but the direct actions of his foreign policy created favorable conditions for hundreds of more extremists like Osama(one in particular Al-Bagdadi runs ISIS). President drone strike killed more unsuspecting civilians in the arab world than any other president before him, they need to take back that nobel peace prize. Oh and Iran and North Korea obtained nukes under his watch. Obama made some strides for same sex couples and transgenders but also stoked levels of racial strife unseen since the 1970’s.

  68. Fast Eddie says:

    And he handled it with all the grace and skill of Herbert Hoover!

    Beta males are generally graceful when attempting to disguise their weaknesses.

  69. Ex-Jersey says:

    Is that what your wife told you Gary?

  70. Hold my beer says:

    Toys r us might close all us stores

  71. Libturd says:

    We used up our gift cards shortly before xmas. The writing was on the wall. Store is a dump and no one plays with toys anym0re. Just the glass.

  72. JCer says:

    Obama’s presidency summed up was one step forward…two steps back. Anything good that he did(and I will admit he did the right thing sometimes) was promptly followed by other actions that were backwards and moved us in the wrong direction. While I abhor Obama mostly because I felt he was duplicitous and lied to our faces while telling us he wasn’t going to lie, his presidency was not bad but it also was not good, it was like an 8 year timeout.

  73. Phoenix says:

    Obama had all of these financial fish in a barrel. Why not shoot? I’ve always wondered this. Did they threaten to destroy the USA in some sort of way? Were they really “too big to fail?” Did they have enough money and clout to have him assassinated? One would think so.

    “The financial world collapsed, the perpetrators were bailed out and got to keep their toys”

  74. JCer says:

    The financial world oversaw the bailout, they were never going to go after their own(they also owned Obama lock stock and barrel). A bailout needed to happen for many banks but prosecution financial penalties, etc should have been on the table. The Swiss needed to bailout it’s two big banks and the way they did it was better for the taxpayer and inflicted pain on the banks without having them outright fail.

  75. 3b says:

    Obama cannot be criticized period.

  76. Libturd says:

    O man blew it the moment the porkulous was released. He had full control of DC and he squandered his mandate the moment he took office. What really blew my mind about his two terms was how little he did for the minorities in this country. I know he was not your typical, rise up out of the ghetto black man. But I expected him to do more for them. In the end, his lack of doing was his parties undoing. At least the unhinged Dems are finally accepting that Trump’s gonna be here for a while. Never in a hundred years would I have expected such lack of humility from the left. I guess academics and elitism are not a part of good gamesmanship.

  77. JCer says:

    Exactly Lib, the Dems had it, they could have done but instead they squandered it. Obama did nothing for the urban poor or the poor in general besides handing out more food stamps. That is point point of contention when talking with the big Obama lovers.

  78. Ex-Jersey says:

    Trump’s gonna make this country great again. I can hardly wait.

  79. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Shkreli sentenced to 7 years (6.5 with time served).

  80. Libturd says:

    btw,

    Monday’s storm is still looking likely at this point.

  81. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Throughout his entire political career, Obama was only good at one thing. Getting elected.

  82. Libturd says:

    Cant say the same for HRC

  83. JCer says:

    HRC is the antithesis of “likeable”, there is an innate human quality found in successful politicians. If the Dems want to win the next presidential race they need to dig to find a likable(read electable) candidate. I’d say Cory Booker but I don’t think they can successfully play the black candidate card again and the fact that he’s from NJ is 2 strikes against him in a general national election.

  84. Fast Eddie says:

    The Oblama legacy: A politicized FBI, DOJ, and IRS

  85. Bystander says:

    Geez who’s delusional? Our liar in Chief started off his first day by lying about size of his inauguration crowd. My God.

    “he was duplicitous and lied to our faces”

  86. Fast Eddie says:

    Another Oblammy success: Ignoring the Clinton–Uranium One connections.

  87. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Obama lied about paying $1.5 cash billion in ransom to Iran. The US even paid for the plane to fly the pallets of cash there.

  88. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^^ Prescient.

    ” the Obama administration has likely sowed the seeds of terrorism for many years to come.

    That Iran got even a penny from us to perpetrate more terrorism is a disgrace, and is yet another reason for regime change in the U.S. in 2016.”

  89. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    There was definitely something wrong/shady/corrupt about Obama. What other president has ever had his veto overridden 344-77 in the house and 97-1 in the Senate?

  90. Ex-Jersey says:

    Obama’s legacy lies in the face of every little girl that raises her eyes in awe and says … mama can I has a cheeseburger..

  91. Ex-Jersey says:

    This guy’s your douchebag. Hope he doesn’t make your lives worse.

  92. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Wikileaks is a Russian front and Obama pardons Manning for turning over classified information to Wikileaks. What’s wrong with this picture?

  93. Bystander says:

    Lib,

    Was he supposed to pass reparations? The amount of sh$t served in that man’s plate was unbelievable. Financial disasters, environmental disasters, military disasters. Give him so due as he acted like any other white president in those situations. Race was not a priority. He also expanded military budget and bombed arab people better than any R president better him. Usually conservatives applaud such behavior.

  94. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    My wife only works part-time and she now gets $100 more per week in her paycheck. She took the family out for dinner last night with one of her, as Pelosi would say, “crumbs”.

  95. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Obama was great at putting all of that BP oil back on the bottom of the ocean where it belongs. As for financial disasters, he created his own, $10 trillion worth, more than every other president since Washington combined. He certainly could campaign like a motherfu.cker though (so long as it was for himself). Selfish, worthless, and corrupt is how he’ll go down in history.

    Financial disasters, environmental disasters, military disasters. Give him so due as he acted like any other white president in those situations.

  96. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    and half black.

  97. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    9:00 it will end in tears….for Democrats.

  98. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I would have had respect for Obama if he got the fed to raise interest rates. What do we need, Dow 50k before they try to raise above 2%?

  99. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    In reality, the left has made it the best time ever to be a racist, because the word has devolved into meaning anyone who didn’t vote for Hillary. Racist, Hitler, Stalin, worse than Pearl Harbor, all mean the same thing now; it means you don’t buy into what the dying left is selling.

    Best thing about Trump is that he’s egg’ed all of the imbeciles and complete racists f*cks out into the sunlight. Once the glare shifts from the inevitable backlash and the pendulum decides to go the other way, because it will, the scum will have no where to run.

  100. Ex-Jersey says:

    Ridiculous. Warning: don’t come here for a real discussion.

  101. Bystander says:

    Fair minded people won’t have that judgement Pat. Use the debt calculation that fits the narrative. Obama was the worst..blah blah. Trump adds 1.5 trillion in one year. This with 20,200 Dow and 4.7 % unemployment handed to him on silver platter upon entering office, unlike Barry.

  102. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    That’s cart before the horse thinking. If Obama knew how to stimulate the economy higher rates would have followed. Instead he choked the economy through regulation as if he was choking his own chicken. Add the Secret TPP, Paris Climate Accord, attempting to kill coal and steel industries, etc. and the economy had no chance. The only jobs he was interested in creating were government jobs.

    I would have had respect for Obama if he got the fed to raise interest rates. What do we need, Dow 50k before they try to raise above 2%?

  103. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Only with Obama era, lowest ever, growth numbers, which I guess lazy Democrats think (or pray) is the “new normal”.

    Trump adds 1.5 trillion in one year.

  104. Libturd says:

    By,

    Forget Trump’s optics and yes, it’s a little early to measure his success. But Trump hardly had a mandate and he has been crazy successful about keeping his promises. I am not arguing the merit of them here. Heck, at the start of Obama’s first term, he could have erected a wall made of gold if he wanted to. Instead, he focused wholly doing what every politician before him has done in the past thirty or so years. He bravely paid off everyone who got him to where he is.

  105. Bystander says:

    And I am not saying that Obama spent wisely. The favored bailouts, cronyism and lack of bank prosecution are marks against his legacy. His legacy was what matteres. He did not want to be first black president who had the second great depression.

  106. Fast Eddie says:

    He bravely paid off everyone who got him to where he is.

    $887,000,000,000 non-shovel ready jobs.

  107. Bystand says:

    No lazy thinking is believing that a painted Orange blob ushered this all in within a year with his greatness

  108. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And I guess everyone he owed were good with shovels because that $900 billion that he used his super-majority to vote for in record time was supposed to go to shovel-ready jobs. I guess they needed shovels to shovel all of that money into their investment accounts. That’s why the Democrats no longer can raise any money. All of the people that Hillary was supposed to pay off were left sitting and rotating on their shovel handles.

    He bravely paid off everyone who got him to where he is.

  109. Hold my beer says:

    I like pizza
    I like ice cream
    I don’t like ice cream pizza

  110. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    LOL. You can tell who here remembers facts and who creates fiction à la carte.

  111. JCer says:

    Bystander on the lying. lets not forget how Obama campaigned. Trump’s whole platform is f*ck you, anyone who doesn’t expect him to lie is deluded and he has never proclaimed to be honest. Bill Clinton basically told the electorate that he was going to lie to them because it was politics, Obama ran with the promises of transparency, honesty, changing politics for the better…remember “change you can believe in”. He sold the electorate on that and being anti-war and what we got was president drone strike. A revolution in Syria, Libya, and Ukraine all featuring actors support by the USA who can only be described as “deplorable”. Trumps deplorable’s might be hick rednecks but at least they aren’t being armed by the government and don’t actually have ISIS and literal n*zis in their mist.

  112. Fast Eddie says:

    All of the people that Hillary was supposed to pay off were left sitting and rotating on their shovel handles.

    They should demand retribution from the Clinton Foundation Uranium slush fund.

  113. Bystander says:

    Pat, you must do absolute mental gymnastics to think that things only got better on Jan 20th, 2017 while it was sh*t everyday since Jan 20th, 2009. That takes a lot of ignorance of facts. I liked lil Bushie Jr until I realized that he was starting a war in Iraq to finish Daddy’s grudge and using a bogus doctrine to do so..

  114. Fast Eddie says:

    I liked lil Bushie Jr until I realized that he was starting a war in Iraq to finish Daddy’s grudge and using a bogus doctrine to do so..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0

  115. Bystander says:

    JCer,

    Not disagreeing, hell you don’t get even get to the school board by telling honest truth. Every president is a liar. We can all agree with that one. Slick Willy had that lip biting lie, Obama had that finger pointing lie and Trump has that ‘anything I say is lie’ lie. I guess in the supporters mind that is a strength. I worry that he has so much time to tweet lie with pseudo celebs and D list celebs. How about letting some go by, Don?

  116. Bystander says:

    Eddie,

    Hilary, Bush, Obama – all cold blooded killers. Trump will another year before he starts killing campaign. Need to get closer to re-election time. Part of the job too. Any Hillary lovers who thought she was ‘granny in pantsuits’ were sorely mistaken.

  117. Bagholder says:

    Feel like there’s been a standing offer for a NK meeting, just seems like he’s the first one to say yes. Will be curious if it happens, spokesperson just walked the whole thing back.

  118. Ex-Jersey says:

    This board reads like a special ed. Edition of Brietbart.

  119. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Change you can believe in. At $1 per change I guess that makes about 10 trillion changes.

  120. Ex-Jersey says:

    ChiFi – this is why they build in the hills:
    https://instagram.com/p/BgH1UdADnKp/

  121. Ex-Jersey says:

    It’s hypnotic but in the words of my firefighter (retired) neighbor “if there is ever a major fire in the Hollywood Hills, there will not only be massive property loss, but also lot’s of casualties as the roads aren’t geared for quick Evacuation.”

  122. Juice Box says:

    Ex-Jersey, I was in Malibu just after the 93 fires which was arson. I don’t really know how they do it, but it is part of the Cali lifestyle, nobody died in that fire and nearly 800 homes were burnt to a crisp but they do know how to evac that is for sure.

    This recent video of the commute on the 405 freeway is just crazy…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=qi6dAPBvyYU

  123. Ex-Jersey says:

    I watched the Thomas fire come through my back yard. Never forget the smell.

  124. The Great Pumpkin says:

    We are witnessing the death of the millennial hipster – and it could cost the travel industry dear – The Telegraph
    https://apple.news/ASHalTi4iToG_7xI1YorBbQ

  125. Juice Box says:

    Yeah I know you talked about it, my Cali friend.

    Why are you back here on Grim’s open board in NJ? Not to attack but other than better bagels and pizza why not move on?

  126. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – ” death of the millennial hipster”

    Like my friends from China say, these things are generational.

    DO YOU WANT A LESSON?

  127. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ding dong the hipster is dead.

    Finally we are almost over the rich kids drinking PBR movement.

  128. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Dedicated to the hipsters.

    https://youtu.be/SSCzDykng4g

  129. Hold my beer says:

    Hipsters. We had to sit near a hipster who had a double man bun on a flight last summer. Kids still laugh about it

  130. Ex-Jersey says:

    9:32 definitely time to move on down da road.

  131. Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn't Tom Brady says:

    “When I got through the Q-M my eyes beheld something I had never seen before: A completely empty Long Island Expressway! I had the pleasure of driving on snow at 60+ mph because I had 5 flat lanes all to myself.”

    In 1983, I drove to LI in a wicked storm. Sat it out in Hicksville until traffic subsided. Then found an on ramp to the LIE and it was empty. Flew to Patchogue in my 1972 Cutlass, kicking up a massive rooster tail the entire way, never seeing a soul.

    I found out the next day that they closed the LIE but they didn’t block the onramp I used.

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