Another day, another new tax

From the Star Ledger:

N.J. bill would allow for voter-approved arts tax

A New Jersey lawmaker is pushing for a new tax designed to fund local arts initiatives.

Assemblyman Raj Mukherji, D-Jersey City, introduced a bill in the New Jersey Legislature last week that would allow municipalities to ask voters to approve an arts tax, a levy that would mirror one that creates a fund for open space and historic landmark projects. Voters in over 200 New Jersey municipalities have approved open space taxes.

The push for increased arts funding began in Jersey City last year, when local groups campaigned to obtain city dollars to fund arts programs and organizations. After an initial plan to add a municipal tax to Uber and Lyft rides fell through, Mayor Steve Fulop teamed up with Mukherji on the current proposal.

“Jersey City has galleries and arts districts with live-work zoning and an infrastructure that could help incubate legends,” Mukherji said in a statement from the city. “But without a dedicated and recurring funding source, we will never reach our potential.”

Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, has proposed a $37.4 billion state budget that includes $1.6 billion in new taxes and fees. Matt Rooney, an attorney and conservative blogger who is critical of Murphy’s tax plans, told The Jersey Journal New Jersey’s high taxes are forcing residents to flee the state.

“No proliferation of sidewalk murals, dance troops or street festivals can fix that,” Rooney said. “If you want to aid the arts in New Jersey? Stop forcing its patrons to relocate to Bucks County, Pennsylvania and Wake County, North Carolina with more taxes.”

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90 Responses to Another day, another new tax

  1. Ottoman says:

    I’ll wager it’s cheaper to live in Warren and Hunterdon Counties than Bucks. Same for Burlington and parts of Mercer.

  2. Fast Eddie says:

    Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, has proposed a $37.4 billion state budget that includes $1.6 billion in new taxes and fees.

    I’ll never be able to figure out why someone pulls the lever for a guy who is admitting to higher taxes in a State that is number one in this category. How much is enough? It’s a numbers game I suppose; the moochers outnumber the producers.

  3. dentss dunnigan says:

    To answer your question ,Murphy won with only 17% of the registered voters ..NJ has the lowest turnout of voters in the nation .The people have given up or they figure they won’t be around much longer anyway …so who cares …but the unions

  4. Grim says:

    What’s in it for me?

  5. Fast Eddie says:

    What’s in it for me?

    Pot, public assistance, free college and revocation of privileges based on non-compliant race.

  6. chicagofinance says:

    Fuk Murphy….fuc this!

  7. No One says:

    Government funded art generally sucks because it generally funds stuff that couldn’t succeed in a non-compelled market.
    My wife and I visited Montreal last year which has a really big arts tax, my wife asked me why there are so many ugly sculptures everywhere, then I explained how government officials were able to fund purchases of ugly crap that would otherwise not have much of a market.
    Jersey City – brace yourself for catamite sculpture. And murals with Murphy substituting for Mao.

  8. 3b says:

    Hey it takes special people to live here. High taxes and third world infrastructure is the price you pay to live here. If you losers can’t hack it leave!

  9. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I noticed that they brought back the construction vehicles to try to finish off 1 part of the 206 bypass. This has been something like a 40 year project and all it is a friggin road. It’s not even a highway. They’ve spent the past 10 years trying to figure out the last quarter mile

  10. nwnj says:

    So an investigation about foreign influence in elections that started with bogus documents provided by a political enemy has transformed to violating a man’s attorney client rights and apparently the issue is hush money to loose women? Let me remind you the man is currently the president.

    Did I get that right? It’s everything that people hate about politics and government overreach. It will help rrump massively because of perception and now he can tell Keillor to f*ck off with impunity.

  11. chicagofinance says:

    White Australian Lives Matter:

    The largest Black Lives Matter page on Facebook is reportedly a fraud — run by a white man in Australia who used it to take in more than $100,000 in donations.

    The page was simply called “Black Lives Matter” and had nearly 700,000 followers, compared with the 322,000 for the verified page of the same name, CNN reported Monday.

    The bogus page has been suspended and online payment platforms PayPal, Patreon, Donorbox and Classy have stopped working with it.

    Some of the money raised through the fake page reportedly went into a bank in Australia.

    The page was tied to Ian Mackay, an official with the National Union of Workers in Australia. He has served as an organizer and branch vice president, CNN reported.

    He’s been suspended pending a union investigation.

    “The NUW is not involved in, and has not authorized, any activities with reference to claims made in CNN’s story,” said union national secretary Tim Kennedy.

    CNN reported that Mackay has registered dozens of websites, many of which claim to be tied to black-rights issues.

    In April 2015, he registered blackpowerfist.com using his name, email address and phone number.

    Patrisse Cullors, a BLM co-founder, said she was troubled by the apparent scam.

    “We rely on donors who believe in our work and our cause and that [the] money will be used in a way that is respectful,” Cullors said.

    DeRay McKesson, another prominent BLM activist, said the fast rise of the movement has left it vulnerable to such schemes.

    “It’s important to remember the movement was organic and no organizations started the protests that spread across the country,” McKesson said. “The consequences of that is it hasn’t been easy to think about authenticity in the digital space.”

  12. nwnj says:

    Mueller

  13. Fast Eddie says:

    nwnj,

    Never once was David Kendall’s office raided… even when they told Hillary to lawyer up because she mostly likely would be indicted. The right needs to hire him.

  14. 3b says:

    The left will be shocked when Trump is re-elected again if he runs.? I don’t think he will but then it will be Pence as President.

  15. nwnj says:

    It’s another double standard, people can see that. Trying to turn the stormy payment into a legal issue is a joke.

    Try rocking the boat in dc and the establishment will try to find a way to destroy you. It’s not left or right but that’s a big part of it now.

  16. D-FENS says:

    Dude gets nothing but positive press too.

    chicagofinance says:
    April 10, 2018 at 9:37 am
    Fuk Murphy….fuc this!

  17. Californicator says:

    I’ve enjoyed watching Trump twist, unlike most of you I don’t think he is ‘fit’ to be President. So nothing lost.

  18. D-FENS says:

    Cohen came up with the money to pay Stormy Daniels…allegedly by taking out a home equity loan. If he lied to the bank…that’s bank fraud…and they might even be able to twist it into an illegal campaign contribution.

    Stupid…as no one cares what Trump did with Stormy except people who hated him already anyway. The rest of us can only wish we were filthy rich banging supermodels and adult film stars.

  19. Fast Eddie says:

    Fire up the low information crowd with tabloid fluff. It’s all they know. The so-called intellectuals in that crowd are just crazy people that quote other crazy people who pushed failed ideologies.

  20. Hold my beer says:

    So a guy from a city that doesn’t pay for its own schools now wants an arts tax for everyone.

    I really think the dem machine in N.J. wants to drive out anyone with transportable skill set capable of making between 50k and 250k. Leaving behind the hordes of poor, a handful of wealthy progressives and the small businesses like plumbers and dentists who have taken years to build up a client base.

  21. D-FENS says:

    Just a coincidence I guess.

    @AP
    13h13 hours ago
    More
    Chinese President Xi said Beijing will “significantly lower” tariffs on auto imports; no direct mention of trade dispute with Trump.

  22. Fast Eddie says:

    Cohen came up with the money to pay Stormy Daniels…allegedly by taking out a home equity loan.

    From collusion with foreign entities to personal bank loans. Both sides of the aisle should feel frightened. It could be anybody… for anything!

  23. D-FENS says:

    The alleged “trade war” with China started decades ago. The Trump administration is the first to fire back.

  24. D-FENS says:

    The only way they could get their hands on personal communications between Trump and his lawyer was to get his lawyer on a technicality. Make him the criminal under investigation. I have the feeling Trump may have seen this coming.

    Fast Eddie says:
    April 10, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Cohen came up with the money to pay Stormy Daniels…allegedly by taking out a home equity loan.

    From collusion with foreign entities to personal bank loans. Both sides of the aisle should feel frightened. It could be anybody… for anything!

  25. nwnj says:

    They tapped the mans phone using bogus evidence. It’s unbelievable the way his rights have been abused. Sad really.

  26. 3b says:

    Trump is not fit to be President, neither was Obama, or Bush junior. The requirements for qualifications to be President has declined. But at least Trump is entertaining and he is through the chaos getting some things done. The China thing is long over due!

  27. AJ says:

    I dunno, go on NJ dot com and search “Murphy”, at least half of the headlines are negative.

    Heck, negative articles about Murphy are a full time job now for Mulshine.

    D-FENS says:
    April 10, 2018 at 11:00 am
    Dude gets nothing but positive press too.

  28. D-FENS says:

    Other than Mulshine’s.

  29. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Stay of Execution: Ditch your Bergen county house and move to the county with even greater culture. Passaic. We’re gooder than you think.

    Hey it takes special people to live here. High taxes and third world infrastructure is the price you pay to live here. If you losers can’t hack it leave!

  30. Californicator says:

    Hey I’m just sitting’ back enjoying the ride, taxes are done, peace reigns supreme.

  31. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    There was a feeble attempt to overthrow the electoral college. IIRC, the net result was even less electoral votes for Clinton. Clinton won NY + CA by 6 million votes. She lost the other 48 states by 3 million votes.

    Trump is not fit to be President, neither was Obama, or Bush junior. The requirements for qualifications to be President has declined.

  32. Californicator says:

    I hate Chinese crap anyhow. The Japanese made some pretty good stuff, they evolved and really innovated. China hasn’t made it past knock-off status….f’ em.

  33. Californicator says:

    I love Eddie citing the ‘Low information’ crowd as he gets around to my middle school reading list, what’s next buddy, Catcher in the Rye…?

  34. Californicator says:

    and by ‘failed ideology’ are you referring to democracy? Yeah, cause I think that’s what we’ve been leaning on for the last couple of centuries, sure man throw your hat in w/ Putin, see how far you go in the new Politbureau….

  35. joyce says:

    Democracy is different than a Republic. Overlap yes, but important differences.

  36. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Democracy is when you stand on top of your car, determine that everybody you can see looks like you and votes like you…and you still lose.

  37. 3b says:

    The founding fathers deeply feared democracy.

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Listen, no one likes paying taxes. I think everyone understands that. I think everyone understands that nj has high taxes.

    What most people don’t understand is the opportunity this area brings (northeast jersey). I’m a millennial that was born and raised here. Same with my younger brother and sister. Also their spouses were born and raised here. How is it that we all improved and climbed the ladder in such a bad state for millennials? How did we grow our net worth by hundreds of thousands of dollars in such a repressive tax state?

    Nj taxes suck, but the opportunity is there if you want it. I know of no place that provides low taxes with huge economic opportunity. If you know of a place, please show me. Till then, I’ll continue taking advantage of opportunities presented in this high tax state some love to hate.

    Thank you, nj. You are not perfect, but you do provide opportunity to improve one’s lot in life.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    April 10, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    Stay of Execution: Ditch your Bergen county house and move to the county with even greater culture. Passaic. We’re gooder than you think.

    Hey it takes special people to live here. High taxes and third world infrastructure is the price you pay to live here. If you losers can’t hack it leave!

  39. D-FENS says:

    Democracy is mob rule.

  40. Fast Eddie says:

    I love Eddie citing the ‘Low information’ crowd as he gets around to my middle school reading list, what’s next buddy, Catcher in the Rye…?

    No, my next book is, “A Liberal’s Guide to Venezuela”

  41. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Gender wage gap – Don’t we have about 50 or 60 different genders now? When it comes down to wages, we’re back down to two?

    To add to the lunacy, I think I heard today that jacking up the minimum wage will lessen the gender wage gap? So if we give some low-end part-time workers an extra $1 an hour we will fix all of these ills?

    I’m going back to my original fix: There should be a CHILD minimum wage. I’ll extend it to 25 years old because I just happen to be a great guy. When you turn 26 you are on your own. Market wage. You should have made better plans.

  42. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Turn right, go fast. The double yellow leads to opportunity…

    Hahahahahahahahahahahazhaha!

    What most people don’t understand is the opportunity this area brings (northeast jersey).

  43. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Hey Pumps – Isn’t your daughter about the right age that you should be teaching her to ride a bike in you bucolic “neighborhood”? Do you get now why your wife wants you to move next to the Eye-talians on Urban Club Road?

  44. Trentonymous says:

    First, attorney-client privilege does not extent to the commission of a crime. For example, your lawyer cannot embezle money for you and expect to hide behind a-c priviledge.

    Second, the raid of Cohen’s office is targeting crimes Cohen may have committed separate and apart from Stormy Daniels payoff.

    Thirds, to the extent the raid was related to Stormy Daniels, Cohen was not acting as Trump’s attorney because, according to Trump, he had no idea payoff was made or Cohen actions. Attorney cannot execute an agreement and payoff on behalf of a client without client’s knowledge.

    Finally, all reaches of the Justice Department and FBI, including Trump appointees, and a federal judge had to sign off on that warrant. None of those parties signed off on a warrant to search the POTUS’s attorney without very serious consideration and clear evidence of significant wrongdoing.

  45. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I think Mueller is running out of dead-ends to scour and Rosenstein is running out of hair to comb over.

  46. 3b says:

    And yet Hillary got a pass. Just saying.

  47. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And without formal educations! Yeah, yeah, I know your sister did graduate High School.

    How is it that we all improved and climbed the ladder in such a bad state for millennials?

  48. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I’d show you pumps, but I know wandering outside Passaic county is not on your bucket list.

    I know of no place that provides low taxes with huge economic opportunity. If you know of a place, please show me. Till then, I’ll continue taking advantage of opportunities presented in this high tax state some love to hate.

  49. joyce says:

    Everything you said was 100% fact on with the (possible) exception of this. Only those that actually signed off on it can attest to this… ps. I hope he winds up in prison along with soooo many others.

    Trentonymous says:
    April 10, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    None of those parties signed off on a warrant to search the POTUS’s attorney without very serious consideration and clear evidence of significant wrongdoing.

  50. grim says:

    Zuck doing a great job.

  51. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    He is pretty impressive.

  52. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Oklahoma teachers are putting a spotlight on the failure of trickle-down economics. Since 2004, Oklahoma passed about $1 billion a year in tax breaks with 70 percent of the benefits flowing to the top 6 percent. This tax break was paid for by gutting education by nearly $500 million, health care by $139 million and mental health and substance abuse treatment by over $48 million. A great nation is judged not by the tax breaks it gives to the very wealthy, but by how it takes care of the children, the sick, the elderly and the most vulnerable. The teachers in Oklahoma, West Virginia and Kentucky are leading the way towards a more just America. I am proud to support them.”

    “Our state here in Oklahoma is suffering from strangulation of this trickle down economics…..It does NOT trickle down…..”

    “Ignorant citizens duped into believing regulation hurts them. Poor morons.”

  53. LurksMcGee says:

    Friend of mine is selling a townhome in Somerset that he purchased back in 2008. Pretty sure he’d only get what he paid for on the house, (maybe 10k more if he’s lucky). It’ll be interesting to see if his new home purchase will have some more appreciation.

  54. grim says:

    The Legislators, however, are making idiots of themselves asking questions they have no idea about.

  55. LurksMcGee says:

    Grim, I agree. Its like they’re reaching for questions in hopes to uncover something else, but they questions themselves lead nowhere.

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why are you in Boston taking advantage of social!st policies you claim to despise?
    Why are you not moving to Kansas or Oklahoma to be a part of the supply side trickle down crap you claim to love? I thought tax cuts and elimination of regulation was your dream?

    Instead he takes advantage of the public school system, and mass transit system put in place by evil social!sts. 👍

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    April 10, 2018 at 3:18 pm
    I’d show you pumps, but I know wandering outside Passaic county is not on your bucket list.

  57. grim says:

    Grim, I agree. Its like they’re reaching for questions in hopes to uncover something else, but they questions themselves lead nowhere.

    In some cases, it’s so incoherent it’s hard to even call it a question.

  58. AJ says:

    These legislators asking Zuckerberg questions remind me of when a grandparent asks their grandchild how to use a smart phone. The just sound so clueless about technology.

  59. grim says:

    I’m hoping he drops the bomb and hints at outlawing political advertising in it’s entirety.

  60. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Uh…Pumps – Any evidence to support these claims? The only thing you can pin on me is that I think you are an uneducated moron and your Dad is a deported criminal.

    Why are you in Boston taking advantage of social!st policies you claim to despise?
    Why are you not moving to Kansas or Oklahoma to be a part of the supply side trickle down crap you claim to love? I thought tax cuts and elimination of regulation was your dream?

    Instead he takes advantage of the public school system, and mass transit system put in place by evil social!sts.

  61. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BTW, I’ve been a registered Democrat since 1977.

  62. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    …which freaks the hell out of my more conservative friends.

  63. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps – just to freak you out even a little more – I’m a fan of Mass Healthcare. Unlike the Obamacare abortion, everybody in MA has real health insurance and the bottom rung has zero deductibles or co-pays.

  64. Comrade Nom Deplume, surfacing briefly for air says:

    I joined some Meetup groups in my area (e.g., tennis, biking, etc) and so I get emails for groups they think I might be interested in.

    This weekend, I got one for Philly Gooners.

    Feh. Now that Sunderland is League One, perhaps I can get my group to start hating the Gooners.

  65. Comrade Nom Deplume, surfacing briefly for air says:

    If anyone needs a few laughs, I am scheduled to argue a case in the Eastern Dist. of NY on May 31st. I haven’t argued in court since Pumps was born.

  66. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I didn’t even think of this until now, but we have our own “mandate”, my guess is it is still in play? In August 2010 I transitioned from paying $1700 per month for Health insurance to ducking under a corporate umbrella. Because my start date was August 30th, I was able to skip the last month of COBRa payments. For tax purposes I was “covered” in August by my new company plan, even though I was only covered for two days. That was enough to avoid the tax for not having health insurance.

  67. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Nom – I might show up and watch that! If I do, I’ll buy you lunch!

    If anyone needs a few laughs, I am scheduled to argue a case in the Eastern Dist. of NY on May 31st. I haven’t argued in court since Pumps was born.

  68. Comrade Nom Deplume, surfacing briefly for air says:

    “Trentonymous says:
    April 10, 2018 at 3:05 pm
    First, attorney-client privilege does not extent to the commission of a crime. For example, your lawyer cannot embezle money for you and expect to hide behind a-c priviledge.

    Second, the raid of Cohen’s office is targeting crimes Cohen may have committed separate and apart from Stormy Daniels payoff.

    Thirds, to the extent the raid was related to Stormy Daniels, Cohen was not acting as Trump’s attorney because, according to Trump, he had no idea payoff was made or Cohen actions. Attorney cannot execute an agreement and payoff on behalf of a client without client’s knowledge.

    Finally, all reaches of the Justice Department and FBI, including Trump appointees, and a federal judge had to sign off on that warrant. None of those parties signed off on a warrant to search the POTUS’s attorney without very serious consideration and clear evidence of significant wrongdoing.”

    I might quibble with this at the margins, but my response is basically “ditto.”

    That said, the targeting of a lawyer close to the president and seizure of materials that may be privileged and later “accidentally” leaked, is troubling.

  69. No One says:

    Oklahoma:
    Looks like they spent $7000 per k-12 student in 2006, spent $8,100 per student in 2015. Basically stable adjusting for inflation. Kansas goes from $8500 to $10,000.
    OK and KS both have AA credit ratings. What’s the big problem?
    NJ K-12 spending went from $14,600 per student to $18,200. NJ has an A- credit rating.
    Longer term, past 15 years, Oklahoma has grown faster than the national average. But the state is inherently more dependent on oil, mining, and transportation, and those industries got beaten up in 2016. So of course the commie pundits make a bunch of noise about “failure of trickle down” when it’s actually just a falling oil price trickling down into Oklahoma’s economy. You think paying preschool teachers more and paving bicycle paths is going to compensate for an oil industry downturn?
    Pumps – you’re just a pawn – what they call a “useful idiot” – in their propaganda game.
    http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html

  70. grim says:

    I believe most of these people have no idea what Facebook is.

  71. Comrade Nom Deplume, surfacing briefly for air says:

    “The Original NJ ExPat says:
    April 10, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    Nom – I might show up and watch that! If I do, I’ll buy you lunch!

    You’re gonna be in NY?

  72. No One says:

    Comrade,
    It depends on what you’re going to argue.
    Maybe you could debrief a select few of us on your drive back through NJ?

  73. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Unlike Pumps, I’m very cosmopolitan. I cross county lines willy-nilly.

    You’re gonna be in NY?

  74. No One says:

    They only know grindr, Ashley Madison, and Wiener’s favorite, Kik.

    grim says:
    I believe most of these people have no idea what Facebook is.

  75. hobojoe says:

    Re: Lead article-
    Downtown Jersey City near First St. used to actually have an area with a decent-sized artists community. Not a contrived government-designed one but a genuine one.

    Jersey City allowed most/all of the buildings in that community to be torn down under cloudy circumstances. In at least one building the artists were all evicted and a 52-story monstrosity now sits there.

    Suddenly Jersey City cares about the “arts”?

  76. chicagofinance says:

    public clot sighting driving a car…..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVpIxfwGDtI

  77. Diane says:

    Re The Great Pumpkin – my millennial daughters and their husbands and pretty much all of their friends echo the sentiments you wrote. They acknowledge the high taxes, and know they can live elsewhere for less, but realize the economic and cultural advantages to living here, plus they do not want to raise children in the south, or south west, where property is cheap(er). I have lived in NJ for 20 years, and from the onset, have constantly heard the complaints about taxes, but it is still the most densely populated state in the country. I love NJ, and wish all the complainers would leave, to be honest. They do not realize how good they have it here.

  78. Fabius Maximus says:

    nwnj

    “an investigation about foreign influence in elections that started with” a member of the Trump team bragging to a foreign diplomat when drunk.

    Nothing in the Steele Dossier has been disproved. But the claim in the re that Donnie was susceptible to blackmail over S%xual encounters seems to have been corroborated.

    Trentonymous seems to have covered the legality of the raid pretty well. At this point it is how fast Cohen rolls over for a plea.

  79. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Now that Sunderland is League One”
    Looks like Clot will have to disown you for being a Fraud Fan.

  80. Fabius Maximus says:

    “That said, the targeting of a lawyer close to the president and seizure of materials that may be privileged and later “accidentally” leaked, is troubling.”

    It would have been more troubling if this had not happened given Cohens actions and Donnies statements. But it does give me faith that the rule of law will prevail.

    There is a beauty in how this all went down. From what I have read, handing this off to NY means that Muller’s team are untainted and arms length away from anything privileged. NY can determine what can and should go back to them. The new news that they are searching for information on Taxi Medallions means that the NY AG is waiting in the wings. While Donnie, could hit the nuclear button and try to shut this all down, once it hits State level he has no control.

  81. joyce says:

    http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/04/shaquille_oneal_newark_development_one_rector_stre.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

    The article is silent on the number or percentage of low income units that will be in the building.

  82. Not Fab Maxipad says:

    Fab,

    That is why I think it does not matter if Trumpie fires Mueller. The fail-safe of information dump to State AG that will prosecute will open. Another fail-safe will open to the media.

    This been said, I don’t think he’ll be impeached unless Dems win the House/Senate in Novemeber. The GOP is morally and intellectually bankrupt. He will serve his term out and might even be re-elected not withstanding health issues (physical or mental). He will pardon everyone and anything on Fed charges, but the NY & NJ AG for sure + others, will be waiting to prosecute.

    I’ll not be surprise that at the end of the swearing in of the next successor president on January 20?,2021 or 2025 -there will be US Marshalls + NY/NJ State Troopers waiting to taking into custody.

    This will actually show the genius of the federal/state decentralize republic system.

  83. 3b says:

    Diane yeah um ok. Diane it is then. Nod and a wink .

  84. Juice Box says:

    Never get the full story –

    Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, is recused from the Michael Cohen investigation, ABC News has learned.

  85. Newb says:

    Expat,
    Do you think the Massachusetts plan is a model the whole country can employ?

  86. nwnj says:

    Fabius, “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime.”

    The orchestration of this from the corrupt bama officials, to the bogus dossier paid for by Hillary and the DNC(which likely violated campaign finance laws), to the endless theories about the basis if the investigation, it’s clearly risen to a witch hunt.

  87. Newb says:

    Haven’t you mentioned your family using mass transit and attending Boston Latin for free numerous times?

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    April 10, 2018 at 4:28 pm
    Uh…Pumps – Any evidence to support these claims? The only thing you can pin on me is that I think you are an uneducated moron and your Dad is a deported criminal.

  88. Fabius Maximus says:

    Not Fab,

    I would not rule out resignation with a Pence pardon to follow or the Very Stable Genius goes Scorched Earth.

  89. Fabius Maximus says:

    nwnj

    Bless. Do you see the irony in your view that, who paid for the conservative initiated dossier is a big issue but and actual crime of illegal campaign payments are OK as it’s just “hush money to loose women”.

    I saw this today and thought of you.
    https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/983712436934017024
    How many Trump appointees have to hold key DOJ positions before the MAGA folks stop saying “deep state” every time there’s a negative legal development against Team Trump?

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