Looks pretty gloomy out there

From the Observer:

NJ Politics Digest: Another Grim Take on the State’s Economic Outlook

Yikes, the economic outlook in New Jersey is pretty grim—and it’s not going to get any better.

While that might be the gut feeling of many in the Garden State, a new report puts numbers to their fears, according to a piece on ROI-NJ.

According to the “Rich States, Poor States” report by the American Legislative Exchange Council, New Jersey is ranked 49th out of 50 in economic performance and 46th for economic outlook.

The economic performance rank is based on cumulative GDP growth and non-farm employment growth between 2006 and 2016 and the number of people leaving the state between 2007 and 2016.

“These variables are highly influenced by state policy,” the report notes.

The ecomomic outlook ranking is based on 15 “important state policy variables,” including various tax burdens, the ratio of state employees to residents and debt service as a share of tax revenue.

“At the same time as this very negative economic report is released, our legislators are piling costly labor mandates on the backs of small businesses such as paid leave, and a proposal for a $15 minimum wage,” Laurie Ehlbeck, state director of the National Federation of Independent Business, told ROI-NJ. “Ill-advised policies like these will only make the Garden State die on the vine as other states bear fruit.”

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84 Responses to Looks pretty gloomy out there

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, directly talks about what I discussed about China a week or two ago.

    China’s Challenge to Democracy – The Wall Street Journal
    https://apple.news/A2g1bgINpRd-pMV2GbBGHaA

  3. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Opening article needs to just stfu with their negative bias towards taxes.

    No different than the clowns who wrote that bias opinion piece that people are leaving blue states for red states in droves.

    Stop spreading this bs. Does no good, except hold back progress with divisive ideological backed biased opinion.

  4. Pumpk1nHat8r says:

    A few points before -the pumpkin regurgitator starts.

    Grim – ALEC is one of the Koch billionaires pet project to make us into Latin America. I might not like the taxes. But I like some of NJ’s regulation. Like the one that forces health insurance policies regulated by the State of NJ (not ERISA plans) to cover oral cancer medication without co-pays/co-insurance. At present time when big pharma is a legal criminal racket violating every spirit of decency and free markets, this is appreciated.

    Fab, remember NATO had 2 jobs -Keep the Soviet Union out and keep the Germans in. Nobody wanted a 3rd German land exploration military event.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    April 28, 2018 at 12:08 am
    One of my favorite songs finally made it back onto youtube!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_gt-yg3DhQ

    This is particularly poignant with Merkels visit today. You can almost see her cringe in that that NATO is set up to protect American interests..

    Finally, anybody watching the show Billions. Last week’s episode was a bit disturbing. A nerd guy and a sexually ambiguious “SNL Pat type” gal made out. But the guy had bigger man bo0bs than the female’s real stuff.

  5. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Candace Owens and Kanye are game changers! I have liberal friends emailing me like crazy that Trump is their guy! I’m talking Westchester liberals.

  6. Fabius Maximus says:

    ExPat,

    I see the opposite. I see a lot of people bailing from the GOP.
    One particular friend citing “Naz1’s and Treason!”

  7. Fast Eddie says:

    I see a lot of people bailing from the GOP.
    One particular friend citing “Naz1’s and Treason!”

    That’s strange, a lot of friends for the other side are telling me they are getting embarrassed by the freak show a.k.a the democratic party and their endless, mindless tantrums.

  8. Not fab eddie says:

    Both of you,just knock it off with the left/right bs. Both of you’s ideological, intellectual and moral leadership are bankrupt.

    Both sides can’t help being j3rks. Is like the old fable about a scorpion asking a frog to help him cross the river and half way thru the scorpion stings the frog, as the frog is dying and both are going to die – the frog ask the scorpion- Why did you do it? The Scorpion replies – Because that is what i do it.

    Both sides leaderships in all facets of life are locust boomers. Until these bastards are buried nothing is going to change.

    If you both are going to start sniping, for god’s sake Pumpkin get in here and start spewing your real estate vomit.

  9. Californicator says:

    File this under “only in LA”….this morning …Adam who manages Thin Lizzy, Sean who plays bass in Dokken….they just bought my Harley and the bike is going on Tour with Judas Priest and Deep Purple. My (old) bike will be the one that Rob Halford rides out on stage every night! It will be auctioned off for Charity after the Tour.

  10. MartinTwecy says:

    Hellow my name is MartinTwecy. Wery good-hearted article! Thx :)

  11. leftwing says:

    Grim, capital moves where it is treated best.

    Don’t know why politicians can’t comprehend.

  12. leftwing says:

    My freshman dorm RA was a former roadie for Deep Purple.

    Best dorm ever.

  13. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, and taxes are one of the least important things when it comes to that equation. Sad, that people obsessed with low taxes can’t understand this.

    leftwing says:
    April 29, 2018 at 8:39 am
    Grim, capital moves where it is treated best.

    Don’t know why politicians can’t comprehend.

  14. Bystander says:

    Nice post. I agree but is the frog the millionaire class slaving away while the scorpion represents liberal tax policies? Or, is the frog the middle class being destroyed by greedy, scorpion business class in the souless search for profit?

  15. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why do you think the majority of capital remains in the higher tax areas over the lower tax? Why is this?

    And what is the total percentage difference in taxes between a place like nj and Florida? Maybe 10%? Are you really saving that much when you account for govt investment in said local economy combined with opportunity to make much more money?

    The quality of that local education matters.
    The opportunity for good jobs to make money matters.
    If you are business owner, the quality(disposable income) and density of the customer base matters.
    If you are a business owner, the quality of the worker matters (northeast workers work at a much faster pace than places like Florida).
    If you are a business owner, the education level of the worker matters. It’s not easy to find markets with large clusters of highly educated/skilled individuals.

    Point of the matter, there is a major reason Capital is attracted to these high tax blue states. We have been hearing for decades that the rich would flee this high tax states for low tax states, so why isn’t it happening?

    Maybe because the high tax blue state provides a much better environment for capital. As you said, capital goes where it is treated best. It’s obvious that Capital has chosen the high tax environments and you really should be asking why instead of pushing this low tax bs. Clearly, Capital has made its choice.

  16. Go ahead, makeMYdayMove to FL says:

    For those of you seeking a future in Alligator Land meet your neighbor – Florida Man

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Man
    http://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article209926774.html
    https://www.reddit.com/r/FloridaMan/
    https://mic.com/articles/107372/49-tremendous-things-florida-men-accomplished-this-year

    There are 2 old saying about Florida,
    -The percentage of Florida residents with a criminal record is the same as the percentage of Alabamians that go to church on Sundays.
    -You start out in NY/CA, things don’t work out you move to TX,NV. Still can’t make it you end up in Florida.

    And of course Bugs Bunny

    via GIPHY

  17. Go ahead, makeMYdayMove to FL says:

    Grim, please release

  18. leftwing says:

    Trying to avoid a ton of googling and reviews since the first pass didn’t produce obvious results….

    Looking for a portable bluetooth speaker setup. It replaces my (antique) Bose ipod docking station which has clear crisp sound (all ranges including base). Need same, good output without distortion at volume, portability. Want rechargeable but also want removable battery, not integrated. Doesn’t have to be hyper portable, something that replicates the bose 12x8x6″ would be ideal. Looked at their current product offerings, not thrilled, or maybe I just missed the exact product in their lineup. Durability a plus, had the bose for well over decade.

    Suggestions?

  19. 3b says:

    Fab like I said we out spent the Russians back in the 80s.

  20. walking bye says:

    Leftwing may I suggest the JBL extreme 2. Very nice sound and waterproof so you can keep it poolside.

  21. Million Dollar Shack says:

    Million Dollar Shack: Trapped in Silicon Valley’s Housing Bubble
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjXUBMkkE8

  22. Ottoman says:

    Of course, these are people who think grabbing pvssies and mocking the disabled are positive character traits for political leadership.

    “That’s strange, a lot of friends for the other side are telling me they are getting embarrassed by the freak show a.k.a the democratic party and their endless, mindless tantrums.”

  23. Fast Eddie says:

    Ottoman,

    Dwell among your weak-minded riff raff, we’ll tend to the hard-core issues that concern the well-being of the country.

  24. Californicator says:

    Weak what?
    President Donald Trump has been known to value “loyalty” from those he appoints to positions of power, and it has become a nightmare for White House staff to keep nominees in place.

    The White House has become something of a revolving door as of late, with over 20 officials having been fired or having resigned since the start of Trump’s presidency.

    Members of Trump’s administration are said to make decisions on nominees before properly vetting them, and will nix a candidate if they don’t demonstrate their loyalty to the Commander-In-Chief.

  25. Very Stable Genius says:

    @proudresister

    Donald Trump:
    — “Grab em by the pussy”
    — “I moved on her like a bitch”
    — “Blood coming out of her wherever”
    — “I would bomb the shti out of them”
    — “If she wasn’t my daughter I’d date her”
    — “African countries are shihtole nations”

    Republicans:
    — “Michelle Wolf was over the top”

  26. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Left…Not a bluetooth speaker expert, but back in my broadcasting days. You either spent thousands on monitors or $200 on JBLs which always came amazingly close. Not a big fan of Bose. They have always have a weird fake rich sound. Nothing like the artist intended, but very full. We have two Wave radios and my car stereo of course is BOSE. I am under-impressed. Fortunately, all were casino incentive gifts except the car stereo of course. Sadly, I have a bluetooth speaker with the rechargeable base from bose which I got two months ago and haven’t yet plugged in.

  27. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Left…Not a bluetooth speaker expert, but back in my broadcasting days. You either spent thousands on monitors or $200 on JBLs which always came amazingly close. Not a big fan of Bose. They have always have a weird fake rich sound. Nothing like the artist intended, but very full. We have two Wave radios and my car stereo of course is BOSE. I am under-impressed. Fortunately, all were casin0 incentive gifts except the car stereo of course. Sadly, I have a bluetooth speaker with the rechargeable base from bose which I got two months ago and haven’t yet plugged in.

  28. Juice Box says:

    An International perspective… South Korean President Moon Jae-in calls for Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize

    “President Donald Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to end the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear-weapons program, South Korean President Moon Jae-in said on Monday.

    “President Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize. What we need is only peace,” Moon told a cabinet meeting, according to a media release.”

  29. Californicator says:

    Altec Lansing are pretty nice.

  30. Fast Eddie says:

    …with over 20 officials having been fired or having resigned since the start of Trump’s presidency.

    And yet has accomplished more in 18 months than the beta c.uck that occupied the WH previously.

  31. Californicator says:

    9:00 Eddie- my dick stands at the ready for you to gorge on…

  32. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Essex

    “President Donald Trump has been known to value “loyalty” from those he appoints to positions of power,” <– sounds awfully fake newsy.

    "and it has become a nightmare for White House staff to keep nominees in place" <– sounds like swamp draining to me.

    There are many Repubs who still can't stand him and they continue to retire one by one. For example, quarter of a century rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen. He's not even running due to Trump's policies and how they'll negatively affect NJ.

    I had a nice talk in the car trying to explain things to Junior who often has questions about Trump since we live in anti-Trump country. He specifically asked if I liked Trump.

    I told him, I don't necessarily like his personality and I frown upon a lot of his decisions, but I greatly respected both his ability to win the presidency after a very popular Obama term and his ability to keep his base riveted and active even if he is doing it through a lot of smoke and mirrors. I told him, a lot of people bought his steak and college degrees too. I also explained how I don't know how much policy really affects the economy, especially in the short-term and it would take years before one can even make a fair judgement of his tenure if ever, so don't sweat the anti or pro stuff. Best to ignore that crap and focus on what is measurable and what matters and not who is to blame or who is responsible for the benefit. We then moved on to a discussion of the lack of humility expressed by the Dems and their complete cluelessness in being able to get back into power. Gator chipped in and said that the blue team needs to learn how to deceive the red states better than Trump does. I said, they could start getting some red staters by admitting some of their platform faults and owning up to the loss in the presidential election. We both looked at each other and kind of laughed at that one. It will never happen. And we are both Dems.

  33. Fast Eddie says:

    MANCHESTER, N.H. (Reuters) – Enthusiasm for the Democratic Party is waning among millennials as its candidates head into the crucial midterm congressional elections, according to the Reuters/Ipsos national opinion poll.

    The online survey of more than 16,000 registered voters ages 18 to 34 shows their support for Democrats over Republicans for Congress slipped by about 9 percentage points over the past two years, to 46 percent overall. And they increasingly say the Republican Party is a better steward of the economy.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-lose-ground-millennials-reuters-ipsos-poll-110546139.html

  34. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    That Jersey list is spot on. I spent way too much time in LA looking for a decent bagel or pizza. I can’t stand driving in Ohio because everyone is too nice and too slow.

  35. Very Stable Genius says:

    @_EthanGrey

    We were told by Trump supporters that the reason they supported him was “He’s not afraid to speak his mind.”

    Michelle Wolf did precisely that last night and now they’re all fukcing losing it.

    They supported Trump because when they heard his bigotry, they heard themselves.

  36. D-FENS says:

    @therealroseanne
    17h17 hours ago
    More
    second rule of comedy: comedy comes from LOVE, not from HATE! If u feel hate, you won’t get laughs.

  37. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Most telling line that article Gary.

    “They’re taking less taxes out of my paycheck. I notice that.”

    Trump pulled the oldest and easiest political rope-a-dope. You get the break now, but you’ll pay for it later, after the midterm elections. No one is going to realize the pain until April 15th, 2019. It’s like how every governor in NJ used to beef up (and distribute/remember it came separately from the refund much later in the year) the homestead rebate just ahead of gubernatorial elections. Only to be left raising taxes to pay for it the following year.

    Trump really is PT Barnum.

  38. Fast Eddie says:

    By the groans of the crowd, she bombed worse than Kenny Bania. I heard a few punchlines… omg, it was painful. Who believes in the Fem party any longer? My father’s generation would beat the sh1t out of these puss1es.

  39. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    The Wolf stuff was great. Trump is using it to rile up his base as he always does. Moana and his crowd is like the dumb fish you keep catching and releasing only to lure in once again moments later. And it’s not even live bait. It’s a jelly worm.

  40. Fast Eddie says:

    You want real comedy? Type in “MSNBC” in your browser. I laugh out loud at the headlines.

  41. Alex says:

    Very Stable,

    Since Democrats aren’t bigots, can you remind us who said this quote?

    “A few years ago, that guy would be getting us coffee.”

  42. LurksMcGee says:

    While I thought Michelle Wolf had a passable Comedy Special (HBO I think?) that dinner she did was simply mean. Actually it was mean and looking for shock value – two things that I don’t think make for a well rounded comedy routine. Its like fart jokes. 1 is funny, 5 stink.

  43. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    She bombed. No real laughs. Just lazy comedy banking on 50% will like you just because you took a side. A real comedian makes everyone laugh.

  44. LurksMcGee says:

    Blue Ribbon, you’re 100% correct.

    Late night has been banking on it just like everyone else. The only thing she said of merit was her jab at the journalists themselves (regardless of party). They created this monster, made money from constantly putting him in headlines, and “act” like they dislike him. That was actually spot on. And the Chappaquiddick joke was dark but I definitely snort laughed.

  45. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    The selling guns for books was good. This annual dinner is always treated like a roast. Why all of a sudden is everyone pissed at being roasted. Don’t tell me the right is pussified too.

  46. Hold my beer says:

    Had my first encounter with a cottonmouth in the wild yesterday. We were about to cross a Ford in the river and I spotted a small snake a few feet away swimming on the surface. I yelled snake! Real smooth huh. It swam a few feet away, hid behind a stone and then reared up at us. We were about 15 feet away at this point and still standing on the bank and the snake was only about 1 foot long. I took a few pictures of it and my kid suggested we find a different spot to cross the river. I thought it was a juvenile cottonmouth but wasn’t positive until I was out of the glare of the sun and could see that when it coiled and reared up at us it was opening its white mouth at us.

    We warned everyone who walked past us about the snake. I told my kid that’s why you only wade in crystal clear water in the south. Might not have spotted it in stained or murky water. This was in a state park and there were a few dozen people within 100 yards of both sides of the snake. So much for people thinking there will be no snakes where there are lots of people.

  47. No One says:

    Trump doesn’t like being roasted. Though you can probably find his Comedy Central roast from 2011.
    These days, every single news item is distorted by hacks to energize their political base on social media and news feeds.
    Take the latest Kanye West twitterstorm. Some SJW types I know who worshipped him now write articles about how he’s either insane or an uncle Tom. While right-wingers write about how it’s a vindication of Trump or whatever.

  48. Hold my beer says:

    When we got home there was a dead snake about the size of a worm on our sidewalk. I also ran into a big water snake last week. Three snakes in a week is a new record for me I do not want to break.

  49. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I’m listening to Stern. He agrees with me.

  50. Fabius Maximus says:

    Wolf did a good job. A bit flat in the middle, but very well written.

    Funny to see all the GOP Hypocrisy in full flow. Led by Daddy Huck. He must’ve got his Popsicle stuck in the wrong hole.

    https://twitter.com/DSky3/status/990604794430664704

  51. Californicator says:

    9:04 it’s hard to explain things in a reasonable way that gives a child insight but doesn’t spoil everything for them.

  52. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Wolf did a good job. A bit flat in the middle, but very well written.

    It’s all in the delivery, which was awful. Stewart was great at delivery. So is Colbert. I wasn’t even sure I was watching what was supposed to be comedy.

  53. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Wow. I thought it was a bit long-winded, but have you ever listened to these before. This is how they always are! Not sure why it’s news this year.

  54. LurksMcGee says:

    Its news because of the hacks in the media. They’re lazy and its a lightening rod.

  55. Fast Eddie says:

    The left hates Trump because they’re still in mourning over the utter disappointment that was the Oblama administration. Trump is what the liberals wished for in their candidate; an alpha presence that will fight and push for their agenda. There was hope and no change.

  56. Fabius Maximus says:

    Gary,

    Hows the OCare repeal coming along? About as well as those great deals he was going to negotiate. A dysfunctional administration running a dysfunctional government. #TrueGreatness

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/29/united-states-wants-back-in-tpp-good-luck-with-that-trans-pacific-partnership-asia/

  57. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    To be clear, I didn’t really care if she hurt someone’s feelings. I just think she did a poor job of entertaining. The side that is offended is clearly acting like babies. The side that thinks she did a good job really wants to believe she was funny and are just believing what they want to.

    An objective analysis is, her mic skills are lacking and her delivery leaves a lot to be desired. Basically, it was amateur hour from my point of view.

  58. Fast Eddie says:

    Hows the OCare repeal coming along?

    Signing the tax law repealed the Bammy Care mandate which will save $300,000,000,000 over the next 10 years.

    So, I would say it’s doing better than the $887,000,000,000 slush fund a.k.a. the porky package that the big-eared c.uck championed.

  59. Fast Eddie says:

    The mandate was the thread holding the seams of the fabric together. You get the picture? :)

  60. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Time will certainly be telling.

    Trump IS doing some ugly things that should have economic benefit. But WHO it will benefit, is my real concern. If building walls and raising tariffs and cutting taxes does nothing to stagnant wages. Then I’d rather the would have been aborted childed of Paco and Hilda had been able to be born because I’ll need someone to mow my lawn at a price I can afford twenty years from now. Heck, who is going to root my roto?

  61. Fast Eddie says:

    Heck, who is going to root my roto?

    867 – 5309 ;)

  62. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    ha ha

  63. jcer says:

    I agree with BRT, some of the material could have been funny but that Wolf woman has no stage presence and no ability to deliver. Some of it was awfully mean as well and not really funny, being hateful doesn’t necessarily get the laughs. That woman was no Lily Tomlin, she wasn’t even as funny as Amy Poeler, she was a bad choice because the insults were firmly directed at trump and his administration(all the others were real softballs) and if you aren’t delivering the joke well it just looks mean and very petty.

    Trump’s assault on the illegal aliens is not a great move. The bigger thing is making sure people don’t act like murphy and shower them with freebies. Great come here and work, if you pay taxes even better, no food stamps, section 8, welfare etc, I’d support a guest worker program that allows people to reside here while employed if they can support themselves and if they can keep a clean record and employment after 10 years they would be eligible to apply for citizenship(no birthright citizenship for their children born here unless they become citizens). I also support extending visas to any graduates of top US universities. Then they can eliminate the huge L1 visa fraud happening in all of these companies and change H1 visas to have no cap provided the workers are being paid double the prevailing wage for their position and no less than $125,000 per year indexed to inflation. If you have special skills please come, if you are a regular engineer or scientist being brought over to suppress wages no thanks(I’ve met both types of people here on H1 and the sad thing is the body shops dominate the visa process so a lot of the former cannot get one).

  64. jcer says:

    libturd, 20 years from now robots will be mowing your lawn, they can almost do it today. For rooting your roto, you’re probably out of luck it’s going to cost you.

  65. Californicator says:

    Eddie your narrative rings false. Most people I know don’t actually give two shits about the government. Certainly would like it to run quietly and efficiently in the background.

  66. Fabius Maximus says:

    Pre exististing conditions still covered.
    Those pesky exchanges working.
    Kids under 26 staying on their parents plans.

    The sewing machine joins what the scissors have cut asunder, plus whatever else comes in its path.

    Only another 2 Trillion to go to pay for Donnie’s Tax cuts.

  67. Fabius Maximus says:

    So peoples problem with Wolf seems to be that she has the material of Joan Rivers and the delivery of Gilbert Godfried!

  68. Fabius Maximus says:

    I’ll file this under “No Sh1t Sherlock!”

    “There is still a lot of thinking on the right that if big corporations are happy, they’re going to take the money they’re saving and reinvest it in American workers,” he says. “In fact they bought back shares, a few gave out bonuses; there’s no evidence whatsoever that the money’s been massively poured back into the American worker.”

    https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21741146-florida-senator-thinks-reheating-reaganomics-dead-end-marco-rubio-offers-his

  69. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The easiest way to help workers would be to lower the income tax. Their contracts have already been negotiated. You are essentially changing the rules midgame in favor of the worker. Of course, that’s never brought up as an option.

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Warren Buffett recently said, “What [China] has done in the last 50 or 60 years is a total economic miracle. I never would’ve thought it could’ve happened. What I do know is they have found a secret sauce for themselves, just like we found the secret sauce a couple centuries ago.”

    It turns out that China’s “secret sauce” is not so secret. It’s called Walmart, Apple, IBM, General Electric, Boeing, Hewlett-Packard, and hundreds of other companies abandoning the middle class and moving their factories and technology to China. The question that must be asked is: why is it that corporate America, with the active support of Congress, has sold out the working class of our country and made China the economic superpower of the 21st Century?

    At a time when the gap between the wealthy and everyone else grows wider, while millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages, the struggle of our time is whether the middle class can be saved. Will we be a country where ordinary workers have a bright economic future with good wages and benefits or will we continue to move in an oligarchic direction where a handful of billionaires get richer while almost everyone else gets poorer?

    The answer to that question, to a large degree, rests on whether we will have the courage to make fundamental changes to our trade policy, including repealing Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. Trade is a good thing, but it has got to be based on principles that are fair to American workers.—-Bernie Sanders

  71. Fabius Maximus says:

    Those hot beds of Liberal indoctrination.

    Virginia’s largest public university granted the conservative Charles Koch Foundation a say in the hiring and firing of professors in exchange for millions of dollars in donations
    https://apnews.com/0c87e4318bcc4eb9b8e69f9f54c7b889

  72. KillPumpkin Head says:

    The question that must be asked is: why is it that corporate America, with the active support of Congress, has sold out the working class of our country and made China the economic superpower of the 21st Century?

    The answer is simple. Corporate America’s leadership was made of locust baby-boomer. Who are so full of themselves, self centered and so brain damaged from the 60’s drug use, that they actually believe the Chinese Communist Party would change its true colors and intentions because the combination of a new “neo-liberal economics” and greed/money they were making made them believe they were not really selling their the country, but pursuing “free markets”.

  73. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    That’s easy. Outsourcing resulted in a 10 fold increase in profits for the companies executives to pillage for themselves. Other companies that didn’t want to were forced to just to remain in business (that’s why you can’t legitimately criticize someone for using Chinese labor right now). Congress got rich through lobbyists, insider buying, and generous “jobs” after office. While all that money flowed overseas, it became concentrated in Chinese oligarchs and is now coming back here as they purchase all of our urban real estate.

    Warren Buffet knows what China’s secret sauce is. It’s good old fashioned mercantilism. The real question is, why is the left so hellbent on trading with a totalitarian regime who has gone to great lengths to ensure their workers never earn more than $2 an hour.

  74. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Baby boomers are a naive bunch. Bunch of babies who always looked for the “easy” way.

  75. 3b says:

    Fab like I said they are all the same.

  76. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s going to be tough now to contain China. Only thing in our favor, their fu!ked up demographics with the one child policy. Too many men. Not enough women. Going to be a lot of depressed unproductive Chinese in the coming decades.

  77. Fabius Maximus says:

    I tell my kids to avoid talking politics and religion with people as the arguments are not worth the effort. My kids hang around a lot of Republican kids. I find that the really annoying kids like the taunting and they use Trump support as a form of bullying. I tell my kids to be careful as a lot have guns in the house and I suspect a few are like Eddie Ray with AR-15s stashed. There are a lot of lawyers and some that pay more in donantions to the RNC than they do in property tax. What they get back for that is another story. But overall I don’t need the hassle. I tell my kids to be like the Penguins in Madagascar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIr5BkyGlE

  78. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    CSPAN radio cut out their broadcast around half way through and switched to something else.

    Her performance was so raw that C-SPAN radio stopped broadcasting it more than halfway through. The network said it was afraid of running afoul of the “FCC’s indecency guidelines.”

    http://www.kxxv.com/story/38075329/backlash-not-everyone-thought-comedian-michelle-wolfs-roast-of-white-house-officials-was-funny

    It’s all in the delivery, which was awful. Stewart was great at delivery. So is Colbert. I wasn’t even sure I was watching what was supposed to be comedy.

  79. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Why would you let them associate with winners?

    My kids hang around a lot of Republican kids.

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