Glimpse into the future: NJ coming for your house

What happens when NJ can’t afford to pay it’s own taxes anymore? Rampant (fraudulent?) mismanagement of assessments? Detroit offers a glimpse into what to come in NJ. From the Detroit News:

Study: Bad assessments prompt 10K Detroit foreclosures

One in 10 Detroit tax foreclosures between 2011 and 2015 were caused by the city’s admittedly inflated property assessments, a study by two Chicago professors has concluded.

Over-assessments causing foreclosure were concentrated in the city’s lowest valued homes, those selling for less than $8,000, and resulted in thousands of Detroit homeowners losing their properties, according to the study.

“The very population that most needs the city to get the assessments right, the poorest of the poor, are being most detrimentally affected by the city getting it wrong,” said Bernadette Atuahene, a law professor at the Chicago-Kent College of Law who has studied the impact of the city’s over-assessments on homeowners.

“There is a narrative of blaming the poor that focuses on individual responsibility instead of structural injustice. We are trying to change the focus to this structural injustice.”

The Wayne County treasurer foreclosed on about 100,000 Detroit properties for unpaid property taxes from 2011 through 2015, about a quarter of all parcels, as the city suffered the after-effects of population decline, the housing market crash and the Great Recession.

The study, co-authored by Christopher Berry, a professor at the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy, is the first to publicly estimate how many foreclosures were caused by the city’s chronic over-valuation of city property, the authors say.

Atuahene and Berry acknowledged many things trigger tax foreclosure, anything from an owner’s job loss to a death in the family.

They estimated the number of foreclosures caused by over-assessments in part by calculating the foreclosure rate if all properties were properly assessed. The study also controlled for properties various purchase prices, neighborhoods and sale dates.

Detroit officials, including Mayor Mike Duggan, have acknowledged the city’s assessments were inflated for years but said accuracy has improved with double-digit reductions over the last four years. The city completed a city-wide reassessment in 2016, required by the Michigan State Tax Commission. The city had not done a complete reassessment since the 1950s.

State regulators launched an investigation in 2013 citing a series in The Detroit News that exposed rampant over-assessments, tax delinquencies and mismanagement in the city’s Assessment Division.

Atuahene, also a member of the Coalition to End Unconstitutional Tax Foreclosures, said the group wants the city to provide “reparations” for families who forfeited their homes in tax foreclosures, like she and community activists have done for the Bonnett family.

The county foreclosed on Sonja Bonnett’s home in 2015 over $5,000 in unpaid taxes. Bonnett, 38, was purchasing the home on land contract for $20,000. Atuahene said Detroit taxed her home at a market value of $46,000.

The coalition recently partnered with a housing nonprofit to buy another foreclosed home and give it to Bonnett along with her husband and seven kids. They will celebrate her move in Thursday.

Bonnett said the city needs to repay homeowners who lost their homes because they could not pay tax bills that were artificially inflated by bad assessments.

“They wrongfully lost their houses,” Bonnett said. “It wasn’t just morally wrong. It was illegal.”

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104 Responses to Glimpse into the future: NJ coming for your house

  1. leftwing says:

    Frist. Maybe ever. Lol.

  2. leftwing says:

    Have two items maybe of interest.

    CBS This Morning clip on Lake Nona. ‘Neo-urban’. Engineering all the top community traits from the bottom up. Maybe there is a use for Salem County after all..
    https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1007949968907362304

    On the oft discussed topic of college admissions and merits of certain backgrounds. Feel free to insert ‘NJ student’ for Asian American anywhere you like when demographics and ‘lopping’ are discussed. Comments interesting, links moreso.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/harvard-asian-enrollment-applicants.html

    Good day all. Out to enjoy the weather.

  3. nwnj says:

    Time for the Chinese to bear the brunt of the soci@list vision. Whitey has been there and done that. Once they reach a critical mass within the next generation Indians will be next.

    Yet another unintended consequence of building a party on division. Will be interesting to see how these folks vote going forward.

  4. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I just figured this out. The Trump “pulling children out of their Mother’s arms” narrative was supposed to be the late October emotional wedge between regular people and this successful administration, to swing the midterms. And it was a good one. Unfortunately for the left, Trump has had so much recent success that the Dems needed something big, stat.

    They blew their load early, Methinks. Also, they had to quickly counter this boneheaded miscue:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5

    I saw this interview on CNN this week, their guest was not well vetted. On Tuesday he quit working in a detention center for kids on the border. When the CNN host asked him the ages of the kids in the center he said, “Four to Seventeen. Actually it was Four to Twenty-Six. There were a bunch of adults pretending to be minors, but they were eventually removed.”

  5. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Congrats. Handled graciously, and kudos for using the appropriate language.

    Frist. Maybe ever. Lol.

  6. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps – It’s the weekend! Wake up and smell the exhaust!

    (modern equivalent of Warriors – Come out and play!)

  7. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Taking the kids to Quincy today. When we used to live in Quincy, Flag Day was always the big day. Parade, Fireworks. Nothing on July Fourth. Instead, a lot of parents bring their kids to the point on July 4th weekend where you can see the Boston Fireworks from about 4 miles away. I laughed out loud one year as the fireworks started as we viewed from our far away beach. After a couple subdued “oohs and ahhs” a little kid said, “They’re pretty small Mom! They’re pretty small!”

    https://www.discoverquincy.com/events/city-quincy-flag-day-parade-celebration-0

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hold,

    One or two fertilizer applications a year is the bare minimum needed to keep your lawn majority grass as opposed to weeds. Won’t be nice, but it will be decent for avg Joe. Any questions, just let me know. I’m a wealth of knowledge on this subject.

  9. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I don’t care how much grass I have, just glad to have a free mower and a landlord who hires a black guy to do the major trimming of the shrubs and trees.

    It’s great to be a renter (on a safe, slow road).

  10. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Keep telling yourself that. My home shows pride of ownership, something you know nothing about.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    June 16, 2018 at 9:53 am
    I don’t care how much grass I have, just glad to have a free mower and a landlord who hires a black guy to do the major trimming of the shrubs and trees.

    It’s great to be a renter (on a safe, slow road).

  11. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps

    Using bayer once or twice a year keeps my lawn looking nicer than yards that have those lawn treatment companies spraying the lawn a few times a month. My neighbor says watering the lawn a lot in the spring before the summer heat sets in makes a strong root system with thick grass. He also only does weed and feed twice a year and has the Nicest lawn on the street

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hold,

    When I mean nice, I’m talking top of the line golf course type turf stand. My lawn is homegrown sod. You can literally cut my lawn up and sell for a huge profit and grow it again.

  13. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    High speed curb appeal?

    Keep telling yourself that. My home shows pride of ownership, something you know nothing about.

  14. Ex-Essex says:

    Shabbat Shalom Mother F$ckers

  15. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    We used to call that grass.

    My lawn is homegrown sod.

  16. Hold my beer says:

    Maybe libturd could retire to Detroit? Cost of living is low, close to Canada. He could bulldoze some abandoned houses and start an organic farm.

  17. Hold my beer says:

    Pumpkin

    Why don’t you sell your lawn as sod and try to get your place reclassified as a farm for tax purposes. Or do you need 5 acres for that?

  18. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Law was created to help the ultra wealthy, and I’m not one of them. Lol

    Hold my beer says:
    June 16, 2018 at 6:34 pm
    Pumpkin

    Why don’t you sell your lawn as sod and try to get your place reclassified as a farm for tax purposes. Or do you need 5 acres for that?

  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Happy Father’s Day! Enjoy!

  20. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Gun battle in Trenton last night at a festival. 20 injured, 1 dead.

  21. The Great Pumpkin says:

    286k in property taxes. People just can’t comprehend the kind of money that is out there.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1744-S-Ocean-Blvd-PALM-BEACH-FL-33480/46846919_zpid/

  22. Generalisimo says:

    Why NY/NJ State AG will put Generalisimo Trumpito in jail.

    Look up Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-16/new-york-s-trump-lawsuit-may-be-a-map-for-mueller

    Killer sentence

    How does Underwood know campaign personnel were involved in spending decisions? Because the Trumpsters are so recklessly contemptuous of rules that they left a trail of this blatant violation of campaign-finance law on their emails. At least one email thread included Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski weighing in on where he wanted the foundation’s tax-deductible funds directed.

    The foundation also made a $25,000 contribution to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, who subsequently determined that fraud charges against Trump’s university were not a proper matter for her office. The foundation listed the contribution as going to a Kansas nonprofit with the same name as Bondi’s political committee.

    “The Foundation has no credible explanation for the false reporting of grant recipients to the IRS and the State of New York,” Underwood concluded.

  23. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And the Clinton Crime Family Foundation?

    Believe me, even if there is some FEC violation relating to the Trump foundation (and there can be absolutely nothing else, nobody drew any money personally, no salaries were paid, no expenses were claimed), nobody is going to jail. This is just deflection from the success of the Trump administration.

    Democrats are truly, truly, deranged. They’re going to be sacrificing their own infants when the GOP gains seats in a couple months.

  24. Ex-Essex says:

    5:03 are you really that stupid….?

  25. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Essex – You truly believe that there was something so huge and nefarious going on inside this micro-foundation that it will end in jail sentences? If so, you are truly not in your right mind. Hillary Clinton paid the entire value of this foundation over a few month span to have an unregistered foreign agent collude with Russians to produce a bullshit document. If you are so truly stupid to ignore the hundreds of millions of dollars that the Clintons collected and the billions they spent to try to buy the last election, well….than who is the truly stupid participant in this conversation. My guess is it’s the guy who is so easily influenced by women that he was forced to sell his Harley.

    5:03 are you really that stupid….?

  26. joyce says:

    My guess is it’s the person whose life is so fulfilling he’s posting comments at 3am.

    As old as you are … are you ever going to mature to the point where you realize two wrongs don’t make a right?

  27. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    joyce – If your panties are already off, as I suspect they are, it’s probably your gray hair that’s in a knot.

  28. Fast Eddie says:

    Murphy signs gun law; Trenton goes wild! Another symbolic move by another useless, bleeding heart liberal.

  29. Very Stable Genius says:

    @fakedansavage

    Reminder that the people currently justifying tearing children away from their parents spend the last twenty years insisting

    “every child deserves a mother and a father.”

  30. Very Stable Genius says:

    @BillKristol

    Trump: The Democrats made us do it.

    Stephen Miller: It’s our policy to do it.

    Sec. Nielsen: We’re not doing it.

  31. Fast Eddie says:

    Democrats are now posting pictures of Auschwitz comparing it to the Immigration centers. Never let a crisis go to waste.

  32. Very Stable Genius says:

    @TheRickWilson

    Paul Manafort is staring up at a gray,
    concrete ceiling in a grey,
    concrete cell inside a jailhouse today.

    He will do this, every single day until he flips, or dies.

    This is been a public service announcement from Karma.

  33. nwnj says:

    These people are opportunists and invaders. They should be greeted with whatever means are necessary to deter them.

  34. LurksMcGee says:

    I don’t know why Trenton kept rolling the dice on that festival. A festival open til the late hours and NOT expecting the wrong element is stupid. Meanwhile, the LobsterFest in Bradley beach got cancelled because ONE person had an axe to grind.

  35. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    In fairness to the shooter, he might not have known about the new gun laws.

    Murphy signs gun law; Trenton goes wild! Another symbolic move by another useless, bleeding heart liberal.

  36. StillStuckinNJ says:

    NJ ExPat, your post below is FAKE news.

    The FBI got involve, when George Papadapolous got drunk with some Australians diplomats in an event in London and starting blarting out about how the Russians had dirt on Clinton. The Aussies dutifully reported to their intelligence attache who forwarded to FBI HQ and then Counter Intelligence.

    Fake News alert – Hillary Clinton paid the entire value of this foundation over a few month span to have an unregistered foreign agent collude with Russians to produce a bullshit document

  37. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    or at least a trafficker.

    Reminder that the people currently justifying tearing children away from their parents spend the last twenty years insisting

    “every child deserves a mother and a father.”

  38. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    StillStuckinNJ – And why was Papadapolous in London? And who took him to that bar, to get him drunk and introduce him to that Australian multimillionaire (hint: both on the US govt payroll)? Do you know the name of the spy that invited and paid Papadapolous to come to London?

    Let me help you with your knowledge gap.

    Days later, Halper contacted Papadopoulos by email. The professor offered the young and inexperienced campaign aide $3,000 and an all-expenses-paid trip to London, ostensibly to write a paper about energy in the eastern Mediterranean region.

    https://nypost.com/2018/05/19/cambridge-professor-outed-as-fbi-informant-inside-trump-campaign/

    The FBI got involve, when George Papadapolous got drunk with some Australians diplomats in an event in London

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    Deportation Separated Thousands Of U.S.-Born Children From Parents In 2013

    They hold particular significance as President Barack Obama faces pressure to change his deportation policies to keep families together. Obama’s deportation policies are under increased scrutiny by those in both political parties as the House stalls on immigration reform and the government scrambles to deal with an influx of unaccompanied minors crossing the U.S. border illegally.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/25/parents-deportation_n_5531552.html

  40. Fast Eddie says:

    Can anyone find pictures of the protests in support of the neglected American kids?

  41. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The Department of Defense’s Office of Net Assessment — a shadowy think tank that reports directly to the secretary of defense — paid Halper $282,000 in 2016 and $129,000 in 2017.

  42. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Waste of time. Their parents can’t stay off opioids imported from Mexico long enough to vote, much less vote Democrat. It’s easier to lure criminal alien motel maids and lawn workers to the polls to vote illegally.

    Can anyone find pictures of the protests in support of the neglected American kids?

  43. nwnj says:

    Stuck, except the info that popadopolus allegedly shared was very likely provided to him by an intelligence asset(misfud). Still a few pieces to shake out, but When yu put al the pieces together it becomes evident that the trump campaign was targeted by an intel op. Nunes is working on this right now.

  44. nwnj says:

    Expat, halper was in phase 2 of the trap. Phase 1 was to get compromising info in the hands of someone from the campaign. Papo didn’t have any foreign contacts. he was working for the intel covertly or was spoon fed the info from someone in intel. Entrapment if the campaign plain and simple.

  45. No One says:

    I don’t like that Palm Beach house that much . Highway in front yard. Only one acre of land. House looks more like a bed & breakfast than a home. Not enough parking for your guests, too big for a 3 car garage. 61 million price looks delusional.

  46. Fast Eddie says:

    How many Hollywood mansions does it take to house a few thousand illegal kids? Can someone ask the Meeka and Joe Variety Show?

  47. StillStuckinNJ says:

    If you guys believe all of that then fine. If you hate the blacks, hispanics and any brown skins so much, that you will lose the constitution for it?

    Just realize you just fell for one of the ego driven (Clintons/Trump) accidentally started but greatest intelligence ops against the USA ever. The consequences of which will be really ugly, because the result of the ops is to ensure all parties throw out the window “the rule book aka The Constitution and The Rule of Law” and what will replace it is “the law of jungle – might makes right”. But have you really thought it out.

    Whoever takes over after Trump will use the same “I’m above the law” meme. That will create more reactions and lead to splits.

    If the country starts separating like that – ALL Capital and I mean everything will flee. So what is going to be left behind is a shell (Venenzuela like ). The right wing militia types soon will face other animals of the jungle, mean ones. Like the ones that have challenge the military in Central American and taken over whole states in Mexico. Joe Bubba’s little AR-15 and pick-up truck will mean nothing compare to the other animals in the jungle.

    Finally a lot of these jungle animals will be heavily financed by Russia/China. To make sure nothing of the “constitution driven USA” can rise again.

    Hell, if JJ Angleton was alive. He would be up Murdoch’s, Jones, Beck’s finances – because that right wing bullhorn crowd is behaving very much like the KGB financed communis sympathizers did in the 30’s. AKA Agents of influence.

  48. Fast Eddie says:

    Add Spain to the list of countries now sullied and ready to lose it’s culture-rich history.

  49. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^This reads like a bot spam post.

  50. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Not Eddie, the one above that.

  51. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    If you guys believe all of that then fine. If you hate the blacks, hispanics and any brown skins so much, that you will lose the constitution for it?

    Just realize you just fell for one of the ego driven (Clintons/Trump) accidentally started but greatest intelligence ops against the USA ever. The consequences of which will be really ugly, because the result of the ops is to ensure all parties throw out the window “the rule book aka The Constitution and The Rule of Law” and what will replace it is “the law of jungle – might makes right”. But have you really thought it out.

    Whoever takes over after Trump will use the same “I’m above the law” meme. That will create more reactions and lead to splits.

    If the country starts separating like that – ALL Capital and I mean everything will flee. So what is going to be left behind is a shell (Venenzuela like ). The right wing militia types soon will face other animals of the jungle, mean ones. Like the ones that have challenge the military in Central American and taken over whole states in Mexico. Joe Bubba’s little AR-15 and pick-up truck will mean nothing compare to the other animals in the jungle.

    Finally a lot of these jungle animals will be heavily financed by Russia/China. To make sure nothing of the “constitution driven USA” can rise again.

    Hell, if JJ Angleton was alive. He would be up Murdoch’s, Jones, Beck’s finances – because that right wing bullhorn crowd is behaving very much like the KGB financed communis sympathizers did in the 30’s. AKA Agents of influence.

    Sounds like Alex Jones meets the left.

  52. nwnj says:

    What the progressive types refuse to acknowledge is that trump is a response to a lot of their tactics. Political correctness, stifling political discourse , bamas executive orders all had a blowback consequence.

  53. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Today’s progressives are yesterday’s birthers.

    The majority views both of the groups the same way they see religious fundamentalists. That is, that they all base their lives on non-credible information.

    Those who follow politics like most “real men” follow sports are truly an embarrassment.

  54. Juice Box says:

    re: Trenton. It was 2:45 AM during a 24 hour arts festival. One of the shooting victims was 13 years old.

    No curfew for a 13 year old? That is progressive…

  55. The Great Pumpkin says:

    No way, that’s a pro business regime.

    Fast Eddie says:
    June 18, 2018 at 9:54 am
    Add Spain to the list of countries now sullied and ready to lose it’s culture-rich history.

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Social!sm and communism have never existed. They were labels applied by leaders to gain control of a populace. True communism and social!sm has never existed on this planet. Never.

  57. Very Stable Genius says:

    @chrislhayes

    Currently, the Trump administration is arguing that its family-separation policy:

    – is a deterrent

    – is biblically compliant

    – is the Democrats’ fault

    – does not exist.

  58. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:


    Social!sm and communism have never existed. They were labels applied by leaders to gain control of a populace. True communism and social!sm has never existed on this planet. Never.

    It doesn’t matter. Your ideal utopia is impossible to construct. Capitalism on the other hand, has been responsible for incredible increases in the standard of living.

  59. D-FENS says:

    The more I learn about this the angrier I get.

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/06/trenton_shooting_suspected_gunman_killed_at_art_al.html#incart_most-read_

    The only person killed in the shooting actually went to jail for killing a man. He used a gun with an extended “illegal” magazine. Now we’re hearing some of the people shot may have been hit by police gunfire.

    But hey, if you had a perfectly legal 15 round magazine after undergoing multiple background checks two weeks ago, you go to prison for possessing it today.

    Better bury this story quick.

  60. Very Stable Genius says:

    @AnneFrankCenter

    This is callous. This is inhumane. This is immoral. Separating children from their parents is not an immigration policy. This erodes our nation’s heart, our soul and our commitment to civil and human rights.
    These are children, not political pawns.

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Absolutely.

    In the early cycles, nothing more powerful than capitalism as we have seen. Late advanced stages of capitalism we have no answer for. It would be wise to figure it out, but I won’t hold my breath.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    Social!sm and communism have never existed. They were labels applied by leaders to gain control of a populace. True communism and social!sm has never existed on this planet. Never.

    It doesn’t matter. Your ideal utopia is impossible to construct. Capitalism on the other hand, has been responsible for incredible increases in the standard of living.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Situation is messed up, but what kind of parents put their kids in this kind of situation? Why would you illegally go into another country? Why? It’s illegal, plain and simple. Heart goes out to these families, but have some common sense when it comes to making decisions about your family.

    Very Stable Genius says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:22 pm
    @AnneFrankCenter

    This is callous. This is inhumane. This is immoral. Separating children from their parents is not an immigration policy. This erodes our nation’s heart, our soul and our commitment to civil and human rights.
    These are children, not political pawns.

  63. Fast Eddie says:

    When has the left cared for the well-being of kids? They’re outraged when kids are “ripped” from parents but it’s okay when an infant is ripped from the womb.

  64. Juice Box says:

    Pumpkin – As always the truth is somewhere in between. The Trump administration did not change the law for people crossing the border illegally. Those laws remain the same. Separation only happens if Border Patrol find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent (child is used as a crutch to avoid being detained), or is a threat to the child(yes a threat), or is put into criminal proceedings aka deportation or other serouis crimes.

    The catch and release program was modified for “families” crossing illegally, it was being abused, pretty much none of the adults would show up willingly to court for deportation proceedings if the border patrol just let them go (catch and release) just because they brought children with them.

  65. Fast Eddie says:

    Hey, you feckless, leftist cunts, explain this:

    Obama administration officials are rushing to explain photos from 2014 that went viral this weekend showing locked-up immigrant children

    http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5

  66. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    Good breakdown.

    If you are illegally crossing into another country, why should you have any rights? That’s the bottom line. There is a legal means to enter.

  67. Juice Box says:

    Eddie, That pic those are the lucky ones. The sheer numbers of people illegally crossing on FOOT is somewhere around 300,000 expected this year, it is a humanitarian crisis.

    In Arizona the migrant trail from Sonoyta Mexico to Gila Bend Arizona there is a 10 mile trail of death hundreds of people including children die there each year.

    About 70,000 children from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador are crossing the border on foot every year.

    What to do about it?

  68. Fast Eddie says:

    What to do about it?

    Go through the process like my grandparents did.

  69. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Captialism doesn’t happen in stages

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Sure it does. Why would you think, otherwise?

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:54 pm
    Captialism doesn’t happen in stages

  71. joyce says:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/06/04/the-exclusive-100000-club-meet-30000-members-at-the-illinois-teachers-retirement-system-trs/#1dd0bbe36129

    The legal corruption is so bad even union bosses are muscled into the teacher’s pension system. Unions are private-sector organizations but, in Illinois, the unions received a special legislative carve out making them members of the government pension system.

    For example, Reginald Weaver was the President of the National Education Association (NEA) in Washington, D.C. – the de facto national teacher’s union. Today, Weaver’s Illinois teacher’s pension is $24,869 per month, or $298,437 annually. During his working career, Weaver’s total investment into his pension was only $287,107. Now and every year, Weaver pulls out more than he ever paid into the system.

    In 2014, a pair of union lobbyists substitute taught for one day in the public schools, and then we found them collecting over $1 million of lifetime public ‘teacher’ pension payouts despite a state law expressly designed to stop them.

    (Expanded upon)
    In Illinois, Substitute Teaching For One Day Reaped Nearly $1 Million in Taxpayer-Funded Pension Money
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2014/10/14/one-day-sub-nearly-1-million-in-teacher-pension/#13a309e27014

    ^They need to bring back vigilante justice.

  72. chicagofinance says:

    joyce: I was telling relatives over the weekend……as bad as NJ is, CT is worse off, and IL is the leading edge of the crisis. Everything will blow up in IL and it will be the impetus to change things in NJ. We can complain and whine, but until there is a crisis, no elected official in NJ wants to be held responsible for forcing the populace to behave like adults. The state needs its back up against the wall, so there is an excuse to mete out the tough stuff…..

  73. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Why is IL and CT and CA and NJ a mess? Because Dems think money grows on trees.

    It’s like the immigration position. Their families. THAT is why we all should pay for them to stay here. We’ll just pluck some dollars from the ol’ money tree.

  74. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    They’re! Sorry.

  75. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I concur. I’ve stated this similarly, even here, going back to 2015. You’re going to see it again this fall as it’s still not “cool” to say you support Trump, so you’ll get the same voter outcome once again. “Normal” people who support Trump will sit on their hands, say nothing, answer no polls, and vote for his team.

    What the progressive types refuse to acknowledge is that trump is a response to a lot of their tactics. Political correctness, stifling political discourse , bamas executive orders all had a blowback consequence.

  76. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    You’re seeing it right now with this “Trump is ripping breast-feeding babies right off the tit and throwing them in a cage” narrative. Not cool to say anything about it, even if you think the narrative is encouraging Four Seasons accommodations and concierge service for illegal aliens who show up with children, any children, even a dozen of them aged 15-16. Say nothing to tip your hand, keep quiet online, vote in November.

  77. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Sure it does. Why would you think, otherwise?

    Because everyone has an iphone, macbook, internet access, and no one is starving, despite an ever expanding government. This fictitious day of the economy grinding to a halt because of “wealth disparity” does not exist.

  78. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Joyce,

    This pisses me off. Scumbags like this give unions and govt a bad f’n name. Unions and govt are not the problem, it’s scumbags that come in positions of power and abuse the hell out of it that are. Human nature is pathetic.

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Now this will be used as an example of why workers can’t form a union. Now everyone is worse off due to the actions of a few.

  80. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are naive.

    Since they have an iPhone, all is good in the hood.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    June 18, 2018 at 3:19 pm
    Sure it does. Why would you think, otherwise?

    Because everyone has an iphone, macbook, internet access, and no one is starving, despite an ever expanding government. This fictitious day of the economy grinding to a halt because of “wealth disparity” does not exist.

  81. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And even if the very poorest of the poor don’t have these things, they still have a 40″ flat screen TV and an Android phone for texting.

    Because everyone has an iphone, macbook, internet access, and no one is starving, despite an ever expanding government. This fictitious day of the economy grinding to a halt because of “wealth disparity” does not exist.

  82. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    They should award welfare payments by age and body weight, as measured in the public square.

  83. Fast Eddie says:

    Geezus Chr1st pumpkin, change the schtick already, will you? It’s painful. Change your handle to something else and come up with a new angle.

  84. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    [Verse 1]
    My daddy left home when I was three
    And he didn’t leave much to ma and me
    Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze
    Now, I don’t blame him cause he run and hid
    But the meanest thing that he ever did
    Was before he left, he went and named me “Pumps.”

    [Verse 2]
    Well, he must o’ thought that is quite a joke
    And it got a lot of laughs from a’ lots of folk
    It seems I had to fight my whole life through.
    Some gal would giggle and I’d get red
    And some guy’d laugh and I’d give him head
    I tell ya, life ain’t easy for a boy named “Pumps.”

    [Verse 3]
    Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean
    My wrist got limp and my IQ got lean
    I’d roam from street to street to hide my shame
    But I made a vow to the moon and stars
    That I’d search the ho houses and bars
    And handy that man who gave me that awful name

    [Verse 4]
    Well, it was Wits End bar in mid-July
    And I just hit Van Houten and my throat was dry
    I thought I’d stop and have myself a dump
    At that old saloon on a street of crud
    There at a table, pulling his pud
    Sat the dirty, mangy dog that named me “Pumps.”

    [Verse 5]
    Well, I knew that snake was my own sweet dad
    From a worn-out picture that my mother had
    And I knew that scar on his cheek and his evil eye
    He was big and bent and gray and old
    And I looked at him and my blood ran cold
    And I said: “My name is ‘Pumps!’ I have to dump!
    Now you’re going to watch!!”

    [Verse 6]
    Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
    And he didn’t blink, to my surprise
    He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear
    Well I busted my sphincter right down my slacks
    And liquid poop soaked into the floor cracks
    Kicking and a’ gouging in the poop and the blood and the beer

    [Verse 7]
    I tell you, I’ve been really scared
    My Nana was the only one who really cared
    He kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile
    I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss
    He went for his pud and I pulled mine first
    He stood there lookin’ at me and I saw him smile

    [Verse 8]
    And he said: “Son, this world is rough
    And if a man’s gonna make it, he’s gotta be tough
    And I knew I wouldn’t be there to help ya along
    So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
    I knew you’d have to tighten your sphincter or die
    And it’s the name that made you smoke a bong

    [Verse 9]
    He said: “Now you just pooped one hell of a load
    And I know you hate me, but I have to hit the road
    So why don’t you do the right thing and pick up my tab?
    But ya ought to thank me, before I book
    For getting deported because I was a crook
    Because I’m the son-of-a-bitch that named you Pumps

    [Verse 10]
    I got all choked up and I let go my pud
    And I called him my pa, and he called me a dud
    And I came away with a different point of view
    And I think about him, now and then
    Every time I post, and lie, and pretend
    And if I ever have a son, I think I’m gonna name him
    Bill or George! Anything but Pumps! I still hate that name!

  85. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    That’s rich, you calling someone naive.

  86. grim says:

    Manila never ceases to amaze.

  87. grim says:

    Population density to look forward to

  88. Ex-Essex says:

    3:32 Ooooooo you rock ribbed denizen of dorkiness

  89. Ex-Essex says:

    My johnson is The Epitome of density .

  90. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Once again, with the ATT-Time Warner combo, capitalism features its age-old, never-cured disease – combining into monopolies to control the economy and up profits. The solution is system change.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-15/at-t-court-victory-revs-up-media-merger-hunt

  91. MostOfU RFing BoomerWuzzes says:

    For the ones that have families that survives communism, holocaust, etc -your familiar history should be enough.

    For you others that think they are going to be able to prevail in their red neck technicals once the rule of law and constitution are gone.

    Hear below what your lily white kids and grandkids will sound when they are put on some concentration camp by some really nasty people funded by Russia/China

  92. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Opinion: A Movement Rises to Take Back Higher Education – The Wall Street Journal
    https://apple.news/A0–Pl3_ZTjOR8LnGZsF85w

  93. Gobsmacked says:

    So sick of the new line that social1sm/commun1sm has never really been tried. It has been tried, it just didn’t turn out the way you dreamed.

  94. Ex-Essex says:

    Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen defended the Trump administration’s new “zero-tolerance” policy at a combative press briefing with reporters on Monday, falsely blaming the controversial practice of separating migrant families at the border on Democrats and “loopholes” in the US immigration system.

    “This entire crisis, just to be clear, is not new. It’s been occurring and expanded over many decades,” Nielsen said. “But currently, it is the exclusive product of loopholes in our federal immigration laws that prevent illegal immigrant minors and family members from being detained and removed to their home countries.”

    Nielsen said, incorrectly, that the Trump administration is simply enforcing the law by separating the families, and is “no longer [exempting] entire classes of people who break the law.”

  95. Libturd says:

    If the progressives keep this family separation thing up, the obvious solution becomes The Wall!

  96. grim says:

    I watched the press conference, Nielsen laid out a fairly measured and reasonable case.

  97. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You mistaken sociopaths hijacking movements as testament to whether these economic systems work. You want to obsess over the human nature factor, so be it. It is hard to ignore. Truth be told, if you can figure out a way from preventing human nature from corrupting the system, you just found utopia on earth.

    Gobsmacked says:
    June 18, 2018 at 9:06 pm
    So sick of the new line that social1sm/commun1sm has never really been tried. It has been tried, it just didn’t turn out the way you dreamed.

  98. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I watched it too, and I concur.

    I watched the press conference, Nielsen laid out a fairly measured and reasonable case.

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