C19 Open Discussion Week 23b

From ABC News:

NJ restaurant officials call on Gov. Murphy for timeline for indoor dining

The New Jersey Restaurant Association is calling on Governor Phil Murphy to give them a timeline for indoor dining as they try to prepare for cooler weather.

The Bistro at Haddonfield had a full lunch crowd with Tuesday’s mild weather, and even with ample sidewalk seating, there was a wait for a table.

But owners say on the not so nice days, there are big challenges with indoor dining still not allowed in New Jersey.

“It started raining around 7:00 p.m.,” said owner Nick Lavdas, recalling a recent storm. “I had a full house. I didn’t know what to do. I was packing up food.”

On King’s Highway, Villa Rosa Restaurant sits empty after the owners closed over the weekend because of COVID-19 related financial strain. A GoFundMe is now up and running, as management hopes to reopen in another location.

The New Jersey Restaurant and Hospitality Association says with current restrictions in place, more closures are bound to follow.

Monday, the association called on Murphy to give an anticipated date for when indoor dining might be allowed again.

“It’s been said to me that going out to eat is a luxury, it’s not important. That’s not what this is about. This is about the 25,000 small business owners in this state and their 350,000 employees,” said Halvorsen.

At P.J. Whelihan’s in Cherry Hill, management worries about the cold winter months, saying it’s especially frustrating when their Pennsylvania restaurants can offer indoor dining at 25% capacity.

“When the weather does start to chill down, we’re going to lose our outdoor dining. So we need to have some sort of a plan. What are we going to do? said Mike Perro, director of New Jersey operations for the PJW Restaurant Group.


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333 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 23b

  1. grim says:

    Obama still got it, the guy can deliver a speech.

    Hate to say it, but I wouldn’t be so shocked if the Republican convention resembled an evening watching QVC.

  2. grim says:

    Expect any different from NJ politicians?

  3. Juice Box says:

    Mobile Vulgus

    The mob is not tuning in for has has-beens. I would say the Dems convention is a complete bust, ratings are everything, and they are way way down, this translates into Money donated and votes.

    Trump knows about ratings, he was the “bigly” ratings king for years and is the number one topic today on Social Media. Just ask Zuck he gushes over the amount of traffic and revenue Trump haters and lovers create for Facebook and stock price.

    The Republican convention may not be a barn burner, but ratings? They could be higher, and more money will be donated and in-turn more votes.

  4. Juice Box says:

    Like I said folks ratings.

    “St. Louis couple who pointed guns at protesters to speak at Republican convention”

  5. 30 year realtor says:

    That St Louis couple is going to speak on diversity and bringing the country together? What a warm and positive theme.

  6. grim says:

    Marty and Wendy from Ozark?

  7. grim says:

    It’s over, Biden wins. Trump stands zero chance at this point. He is outmaneuvered every time. Vaccine progress largely now irrelevant, completely unlinked from his administration. The fact that the As Seen On TV MyPillow Huckster was even in the Whitehouse is a complete f*cking embarrassment. Expect a constant stream of these absurdities made public over the next 2.5 months. I imagine they’ve saved the best for last.

  8. Juice Box says:

    I read Scott Baio is going to make his comeback at the convention too.

  9. Juice Box says:

    Polling says otherwise. IN 2016 election forecasters put Clinton’s chance of winning at anywhere from 70% to as high as 99%.

    They are no where as nearly optimistic today, as today we see only a potential 8 point lead overall and 5 points in swing states. That is it. There is allot of real estate between now and election day, dogs to be wagged, scandals to erupt, and the ole tried and true October surprises.

    I will even link to Nate Silver on this one.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

  10. grim says:

    I’m sure we’ll get a study published in Nature or New England Journal of Medicine that definitively links the lack of national mask mandates with COVID spread in the US. The preliminary data coming out of the south is indicating that masks are making a massive difference. Going to imagine that narrative being pretty heavily played as we head into fall.

  11. Juice Box says:

    Joe Biden is older than 94 percent of all Americans. He does not resonate with young people. His speech to the virtual convention tonight will be telling, even Barry is scared he cannot pull it off.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/obama-trump-biden-dnc/615436/

  12. Juice Box says:

    wash hands, wear masks….Have we not learned anything in a 100 years?

  13. grim says:

    Barry is scared he cannot pull it off.

    I’d say, it’s as easy as reading the f*cking teleprompter, but 45 has shown that apparently that’s a very difficult thing to do. Maybe he digresses into a story about his youth, back in 1955, or was it 1972, oh hell it was two weeks ago.

  14. 30 year realtor says:

    And Trump is a whole 3 years younger. Please explain how he resonates with young people.

  15. 30 year realtor says:

    Wouldn’t it be convenient for the Republicans to be running against Hillary Clinton again? Trouble is that she isn’t running. Whether you like Biden or not, he doesn’t come with that kind of baggage. Don’t under estimate the impact of this difference!

  16. grim says:

    If Biden selected Warren, I’d say Trump might have a shot, but Harris, no way.

    Second huge wave of layoffs heading into the Fall will destroy Trump’s message about jobs and economy.

  17. Fabius Maximus says:

    File this one under “That’s a surprise!”

    As it turns out, there really was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/

  18. grim says:

    Dems don’t even need Russia at this point.

    Seems silly to have to argue that there is global conspiracy, cabal with Putin, when you can just argue sheer incompetence instead, and every day that goes by fewer and fewer people are going to fight that.

  19. 30 year realtor says:

    Juice,

    Keep blasting out every fart that passes through your brain. AOC resonates with young people. Despite the nonsense you post about her brief words to 2nd Sanders nomination, her presence is an asset to the DNC for connecting with young voters.

  20. Juice Box says:

    30 year – Trump is a better actor. Remember Regan? Even when he was advanced old age disease as “shriveled” and “verging on catatonic” in 1986 as put by reporter Lesley Stahl he could still deliver his lines, his hair was coiffed and his tone was confident.

    I have my doubts about Joe, we shall see tonight hopefully the docs have tweaked his meds, not too much pep so he does not forget what year it is or who his husband isn’t.

  21. grim says:

    AOC resonates with young people.

    Sure, but she doesn’t resonate with big money donors and the vested interests that power the political system. There are two parts to her appeal. Policy and person. I suspect a good number of young people who she resonates with, are resonating more around the fact that she is young, and looks/sounds like them, showing them that there is room in the political system for a non-politician, an outsider, etc. That appeal may overweigh the appeal for her political position. Although maybe I’m wrong, free stuff does tend to appeal to a lot of people.

  22. Fast Eddie says:

    Fabisu still one the Russian collusion thing. LOL!!

  23. ExEssex says:

    CHICAGO (The Borowitz Report)—In an appearance at the University of Chicago on Monday, former President Barack Obama unloaded a relentless barrage of complete sentences in what was widely seen as a brutal attack on his successor, Donald Trump.

    Appearing at his first public event since leaving office, Obama fired off a punishing fusillade of grammatically correct sentences, the likes of which the American people have not heard from the White House since he departed.

    “He totally restricted his speech to complete sentences,” Tracy Klugian, a student at the event, said. “It was the most vicious takedown of Trump I’d ever seen.”

    “About five or six sentences in, I noticed that all of his sentences had both nouns and verbs in them,” Carol Foyler, another student, said. “I couldn’t believe he was going after Trump like that.”

    Obama’s blistering deployment of complete sentences clearly got under the skin of their intended target, who, moments after the event, responded with an angry tweet: “Obama bad (or sick) guy. Failing. Sad!”

  24. 30 year realtor says:

    Grim said something pre COVID that resonates with me about the election. It was about whoever promises to give away the most will be the winner. Trump and the Republicans blew it when pandemic unemployment expired. There was a huge opportunity to fill the void and appear heroic to the masses of Trump supporters and undecided Americans collecting pandemic unemployment benefits. Trump should have put his face on the $100 bill and gone out to hand them out on every street corner.

    Anyone getting that $400 a week unemployment benefit included in Trump’s executive order? Of course not! Nothing but an empty promise and failed attempt at distraction.

  25. grim says:

    Yep, 100%.

  26. Fast Eddie says:

    “He totally restricted his speech to complete sentences,”

    “About five or six sentences in, I noticed that all of his sentences had both nouns and verbs in them,”

    LMAO!! Omg, the left is hilarious!! Is this a SNL skit? Is this from the Onion? LOL!

  27. Juice Box says:

    Barry added to Bernie’s white lie last night too. Trump did not deploy the active-duty military troops and use the insurrection act, and the protesters are not peaceful. Matters not baritone he was and well as the Atlantic magazine says he is worried Joe cannot pull it off.

    “They understand that in this democracy, the Commander-in-Chief doesn’t use the men and women of our military, who are willing to risk everything to protect our nation, as political props to deploy against peaceful protesters on our own soil”

  28. ExEssex says:

    What you rubes are missing is that Biden isn’t the draw here.
    Kamala is. What you day last night was the first female President
    Of these United States.

  29. 30 year realtor says:

    DNC showed AOC on TV but didn’t try to make her a star. Just enough to keep the young and progressive interested and not offend the rest.

  30. ExEssex says:

    Day = saw

    Turning off autocorrect forever

  31. grim says:

    Trump’s tirade against Goodyear the other day is going to lose him what’s left of the support of corporate America. Another massive backfire.

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    What you day last night…

    I’ll take “drunk and disoriented at 5:11 AM PT” for $1000, Alex.

  33. Juice Box says:

    30 year it’s complicated. Trump probably wanted printed checks mailed with his signature. The money comes from the States electronically to your bank accounts. So far the following states are sending $300 extra in the checks these voters will start seeing money this week.

    “Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland, Missouri, Montana, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Utah were the first states to be approved for an extra $300 a week in federal unemployment benefits.”

    You can bet some Blue state governors are going to refuse to do this. But hey it’s just politics….

  34. grim says:

    What you rubes are missing is that Biden isn’t the draw here.
    Kamala is. What you day last night was the first female President
    Of these United States.

    8 years out? If Biden wins, no way he doesn’t sit for two terms. Or are you saying he dies in office?

  35. ExEssex says:

    Meanwhile the leader of the free world bleats out incoherent late-night tweets in all caps. Yeah there’s our savior and stable genius. Ready for a quick game of 18?
    Trump is out of his depth. He’s proven himself alright. Proven why he’s failed at nearly everything he’s thrown his inheritance at.

    Ratings??! Don’t make me laugh. We’ll compare messages, endorsements, and even production value of the GOP Q-anon-fest. Remember though, people love to watch a train wreck.

  36. ExEssex says:

    8:18! No. I’m saying he doesn’t run for a second term.

  37. 30 year realtor says:

    Regarding ratings for DNC convention…this is 2020. Rating now include other manners of viewing beside TV. I read that when all viewing platforms are counted the ratings were higher than 2016.

  38. ExEssex says:

    8:13 yuck yuck yuck – coming from someone whose has the logic of a 3rd grader.

    So what’s “your wife” do for a living Ed/Gary? Lmfao

    Betcha she’s a real looker. First girl in high school to return your phone call? Neat .

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    Did Oblammy mention in his speech how he regretted getting caught spying on Trump?

  40. ExEssex says:

    oH bUt sHe’s a wOman, Essex, i’M tHe bReAd wInNer…..derrrrr

    W2s don’t care.

  41. grim says:

    8:18! No. I’m saying he doesn’t run for a second term.

    Lol, after saving America from Coronavirus and leading the greatest economic expansion in history?

    He’ll the the democratic version of Reagan.

  42. ExEssex says:

    Reagan was loved by a lot of morons as I recall …….

  43. grim says:

    Probably doesn’t hurt that America is three quarters moron.

  44. ExEssex says:

    Whatever the eventual outcome the DEMs have a ticket that has wide appeal, they have a deep bench of talent that can get us out of this mess. Meanwhile Trump can’t seem to keep cabinet members from calling him an “idiot” after they leave through the revolving door. Trump’s turnover in his admin is alarming. The absurdity of electing a complete and proven failure is too much to even fathom. I’ll wait and see, but my money is on a blue wave. Trump fatigue is real. Obama nailed it last night. Trump can’t do any better. He’s completely and totally over his head.

  45. grim says:

    Only question is how much more of an embarrassment he can become before Election Day. You know the guy isn’t going to lose gracefully.

  46. ExEssex says:

    Oh it’ll be fascinating to watch.

  47. 30 year realtor says:

    Meanwhile NJ ballot question on marijuana legalization is polling at almost 70% for passage. Should be a bit easier to tolerate the result of the presidential election no matter the outcome.

  48. homeboken says:

    A lot of pro-Biden stuff here this morning. The campaign certainly seems to be resonating with a lot of you. Good to see the engagement.

    As a counter point – I feel equally as strongly that Biden has a quickly dwindling chance in this race. I really just don’t see it. Maybe I am in an echo chamber, but I interact with hundreds of people every month that make their living off government subsidized programs. These people are historically very liberal oriented. None of them are dying to support Biden/Harris.

    1/3 of his party thinks he is to conservative. Trotting out Kasich, McCain family, Colin Powell, etc. The play is to appeal to the independent and undecided voter right? Good strategy but does it cost the DNC the support of the further/far left segment of his party. I think it does.

    But again – Biden will win the popular vote but his lack of campaigning is going to catch up with him. Most of the undecided voters are not even paying attention yet. They will tune in around October 1. Biden better get out on the road and start stumping in Ohio, PA, FL, Arizona, heck I think Minnesota is at risk for him.

    Remember – Trump won 307 electoral votes 4 years ago. So the DNC has to flip 19 electoral votes (37/2 rounded).

    Let’s do this mathematically – What states do you think Joe can win that Hillary could not? Or, what states do you think Trump will lose that he won 4 years ago.

    Start with that – Biden’s path to victory, it has to be 10% better than Hillary in 2016.

  49. Juice Box says:

    30 year – The streaming numbers are confidential, so they can spin however they want. But you can see what is trending and it’s not the convention.

    The live feed # is not available, but the replays are. They are not trending and nowhere near a millions of replays.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/DemConvention

  50. grim says:

    There will be majority support for the Marijuana question, and absolutely nothing will come of it.

  51. 30 year realtor says:

    Homeboken,

    What exactly did you read here that was pro Biden? Mostly anti Trump stuff about how he is blowing it or about how it is different running against Biden than Hillary.

    Only thing I see anyone excited about is getting rid of Trump!

  52. grim says:

    1/3 of his party thinks he is to conservative. Trotting out Kasich, McCain family, Colin Powell, etc. The play is to appeal to the independent and undecided voter right? Good strategy but does it cost the DNC the support of the further/far left segment of his party. I think it does.

    Doesn’t matter. Dem is never going to vote for Trump, but you have lots of centrist Reps that will cross over as a result.

  53. 30 year realtor says:

    Grim,

    If you mean that the legislature will never agree on the rules and there will be no plan for retail sale, I agree that is a strong possibility.

    That withstanding, possession will be legal and prosecution will cease. My understanding is that the quality and selection at NJ medical dispensaries is below par.

  54. homeboken says:

    Not having a live and in-person convention was a miscalculation, IMO. For both parties.

    I get it, the optics of the in person convention aren’t good during COVID. Polling showed that an in person convention carried more risk than reward. But given all the $ a campaign spends I am a bit surprised that neither party adopted a mini-bubble strategy (see NBA) for an in person convention.

    A party could have selected 1,000 supporters, delegates, etc. Tested them all, then housed them in a secure location for a week. Test them again the big convention day. Give them masks, socially distant in the arena and go. Small crowd but I think it would result in a very meaningful difference compared to a Zoom/Youtube convention.

    The undecided voter remembers what normal life was like. They want to get back to that somehow. Showing that segment that your party is committed to returning to a sense of normal, but doing it with safety, would have resonated with a lot of people. It would for me at least.

  55. grim says:

    That withstanding, possession will be legal and prosecution will cease. My understanding is that the quality and selection at NJ medical dispensaries is below par.

    No it won’t, it will be challenged, there may be executive orders temporarily suspending it while legislation is worked out.

    Nothing in the ballot question legalizes possession of “forms of” marijuana not procured through legal channels.

    The ballot question made it through because it’s full of holes.

    You’ll see.

  56. homeboken says:

    Grim – I agree, that 1/3 far left group will never vote for Trump. That’s not the point.

    The point is – that group on the far left tends to be younger. And young folks are much more likely to not vote at all, and Biden didn’t excite them before. Showing that the GOP supports Biden actually hurts these far left voters more. They see it as – It’s just more of the same, let’s go burn something!

    Hating the opponent does generate votes but I contend that positive emotion trumps negative emotion, every time. If I were running, I would much prefer to have voters like me more than they dislike my opponent.

    Nuance? yes but meaningful I think.

  57. Phoenix says:

    “Meanwhile NJ ballot question on marijuana legalization is polling at almost 70% for passage. Should be a bit easier to tolerate the result of the presidential election no matter the outcome.”

    Conversation on Zoom
    Student: Hey Teach, why are your eyes glowing red?
    Teacher: It’s probably a problem with your monitor or Chromebook. Pay attention.
    Student: But then why is it only your eyes are red?
    Teacher: You have 2 stuck pixels. Class dismissed.

  58. homeboken says:

    Executive order from Murphy? The guy that said he would legalize MJ in his 1st 100 days?

    That won’t happen. It may be a mess in the legislature but Murphy will NEVER overturn a ballot question that supports a key position he was elected under.

  59. grim says:

    It will be positioned as protecting the public, ensuring smooth rollout of the program, ensuring that the business created from the program is equitable.

  60. Juice Box says:

    Homboken – “Let’s go burn somethig”

    I will be clear here it’s Biden’s election to lose just like it was for Hillary in 2016. If they cannot get people to the polls they are going to lose. This won’t be a mail in election Grim has told us more than once young people do not use the postal system.

    Murphy and the other Governors have to have polling places open on election day, and it cannot be at the county seat election office 10 miles away, it need to be convenient at the local school or church and everyone needs to be driven to vote on election day or apathy for the young voters will rule the day.

  61. grim says:

    Swiss Cheese…. The Interpretive Statement:

    This amendment would legalize a “controlled form” of marijuana called “cannabis.” Only persons at least 21 years of age could use cannabis products legally.

    The Cannabis Regulatory Commission would oversee the new adult cannabis market. This commission was created in 2019 to oversee the State’s medical cannabis program. The scope of the commission’s new authority would be detailed in laws enacted by the Legislature.

    So only controlled forms of cannabis are legalized. What’s a controlled form of cannabis? Surely the stuff you buy from your local guy will not be considered a “controlled form.” Until retail dispensaries are open, possession will likely still be illegal.

    The second paragraph adds that additional legislation must be passed to define the regulation authority. Assumption that is that until this new legislation is passed, there will be no licensed dispensaries.

    This will be dragged out until the next NJ election, you’ll see.

  62. grim says:

    This won’t be a mail in election Grim has told us more than once young people do not use the postal system.

    That’s an interesting dynamic I haven’t actually considered.

  63. Juice Box says:

    No Thank you Vladamir, I am cutting back on Caffeine.

    https://tinyurl.com/yyh4t38z

  64. 30 year realtor says:

    The ballot question language is nebulous but it is a constitutional ammendment to legalize marijuana. Implementation will be an issue that will take time. I still think enforcement will become nonexistent if it hasn’t been already.

    https://ballotpedia.org/New_Jersey_Marijuana_Legalization_Amendment_(2020)

  65. Juice Box says:

    Grim – Census in New York City is an example everyone home and only 53% returned it. It went in the garbage.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/only-53-percent-of-nyc-households-have-filled-out-the-2020-census/

  66. homeboken says:

    The voter turn-out for the NJ primary was just a touch under 2016, that was with mail-in voting only.

    38% of registered GOP/DNC residents voted in the primary this year. Of that, 27,627 votes were rejected due to “deficiencies” (about 2% of all votes cast).

    Vote by mail, thus far, is not turning out new voters.

    https://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/assets/pdf/election-results/2020/2020-official-primary-voter-turnout.pdf

  67. grim says:

    I was originally concerned that lots of older people would show up at their local polling places, to find them empty. Which, I think is still highly likely.

    Anecdotally, lots of NJ folks don’t know that mail was the option. Ballots are going to end up in the trash, leading to confusion and a scramble.

    Suspect you might have a ton of people doing voting twice… :)

  68. 30 year realtor says:

    With the whole discussion of revamping the role of police, where is the discussion of decriminalization or legalization of drugs? Anyone who wants drugs can aquire them. Enforcement has failed and treatment or management of addicts is less expensive and more humane.

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You know how that works, immigrants/minorities are scared to fill it out. I was tempted to fill it out for my tenants as they completely ignored it and put it in the recycling pile. So ignorant, and then they have their hand out for govt programs.

    Juice Box says:
    August 20, 2020 at 9:44 am
    Grim – Census in New York City is an example everyone home and only 53% returned it. It went in the garbage.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/only-53-percent-of-nyc-households-have-filled-out-the-2020-census/

  70. grim says:

    With the whole discussion of revamping the role of police

    Sooooooo last month. Puh-leeze. This is over already. NJ Supreme Court threw the Newark police complaint community review board under the bus and stripped them of their subpoena power.

    Defund the police is dead. Police unions are winning the battle left and right.

    Going to be too cold to protest in a few months, that’ll be the end of it.

  71. Juice Box says:

    They are trying to cover the bases in NJ. The state’s new online voter registration system will be up and running effective Sept. 4.

    Also each town will be required to open one polling place. There will be no machines, any voter who chooses to show up in person to cast their will do so on a printed provisional ballot, which needs to be checked with the mail in ballots to make sure you are not voting twice.

    They won’t be calling the election on election night this year, there is no way they will be able to count them, Poll worker Myopic Mary’s fingers are arthritic.

  72. Phoenix says:

    Boomers will decide the vote as always.

  73. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s over for trump, and quite frankly, I can’t take TDS anymore. I don’t even want to hear his name from the left anymore.

    I just hope the Dems don’t go and screw everything up in the next 4 years with some wild ideas for votes. Also, hope they don’t get back in bed with China.

  74. Juice Box says:

    Southern District of New York charges Steve Bannon with fraud on border wall fundraising. Bannon and others are accused of ripping off donations to the “We Build the Wall” online fundraiser.

    I wonder when they are going to look at the money that went to some of these other online fundraisers. I can think of a few that raised tens of millions and may not go to the intended purpose.

  75. 1987 Condo says:

    I’m thinking that the mail in voting helps Trump, in that all the presumptive Dem voters are young, etc, and as Grim and others have pointed out, these notices end up in the trash…or it is an unfamiliar process…

    I would also thinking that pulling the voting booths out of the places that they have been for generations is a “voter suppression” type action with respect to older voters…

    So I guess a wash….

  76. ExEssex says:

    wow. Just wow.

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m not anti-police, but seriously, what is the point of most of them? Glorified secretary to take down notes at an accident or when someone reports a crime. They also hustle the population to give speeding tickets. Cars are built much better and efficient today, that 55 mph speed limit is bs. I don’t know how a cop lives with themselves for giving a 4 pt ticket to someone going 75 in a 55. F’ing bs. Scam.

    Do cops stop real crime? A small minority do, but the rest just terrorize good citizens with tickets, and take down information after someone calls in a problem.

    Not trying to be disrespectful to the cop profession, but that is how I see it and may very well be wrong.

  78. Phoenix says:

    Throw some lard in the pan

    And Fry em.

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They seriously terrorize the citizens of this country with tickets. A lot of stress that is not needed.

  80. Juice Box says:

    This is what the young people see the politicians doing, basically ruining all of their fun, and sucking the life out of being young, and they expect them to vote at all?

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/la-cuts-power-to-tiktok-star-bryce-halls-home-after-parties/

  81. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – drive a station wagon, they will leave you alone.

  82. Comrade Nom Deplume, Nompounder says:

    I agree with grim and not Juice. Trump is done and it is largely his own doing. It took years and a global pandemic but the relentless Dem/Media attacks have borne fruit.

    I predict banana republic tactics of retribution following Biden’s win, especially if they take the Senate. I would even go so far as to see a serious effort to drum up charges on Kavanaugh and Thomas to get them off the court, and you will see a lesser effort down the line on the lower court level as well.

    Deep red state sheriffs will create auxiliary posses to protect gun owners from federal laws restricting gun rights. Some states (AK, WY, maybe ID or SD) may even go so far as to amend their militia laws to allow gun owners to register as the ready reserve. A couple may even revise their disaster preparedness and COG planning manuals to include provisions for secession.

    Calls for an Article V convention will get louder. This is something that both left and right wing intelligensia live in fear of. If Trump barnstormed on that post-office, that would be a game-changer.

    I predict that Biden will pass a multibillion dollar stimulus package. But the real fireworks will be if they take the Senate and move to bail out blue cities, blue states and union pensions. I said before that this would be a fault line that will balloon the deficit. So if it looks like the dems take the senate, I am looking at gold as well as tech.

    It’s going to be a good time to be a bankruptcy lawyer. I wish I devoted more time to that.

  83. homeboken says:

    Garcetti shutting down power to a single-family home for violation of an executive order is a new step in authoritarianism.

    It feels like a test balloon to me. Dangerous level of govt. over-reach IMO. The executive creates an executive order, then penalizes those that don’t obey.

    Ignore the legislature completely. If you want to fight, your only recourse is the courts. Maybe you will prevail. But you will be preparing your case and waiting to be heard for months, the whole time, you have no utilities. Pretty scary.

  84. ExEssex says:

    Trump’s head is so far up Putin’s Ass, he can see Sarah Palin’s house from there.

  85. 3b says:

    Message I am getting from young people is they don’t care Election wise. Definitely no interest in Biden.

  86. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They will leave me alone, but bother someone else. Lol

    They don’t mess with me, they seem to target cars from lower income bracket.

  87. homeboken says:

    Comrade – If the DNC takes the senate, there will be no need to remove Kavanaugh or Thomas. There is nothing to stop Biden from nominating and a DNC senate confirming as many SCOTUS judges that they want.

    Getting Kavanaugh and Thomas out would be ideal for them. But the path of least resistance is to just add 3-4 more Biden judges and call it a day.

    The idea that SCOTUS is limited to 9 is just an idea. Legally, there is no limitation.

  88. joyce says:

    Comrade,
    None of that is going to happen with the exception of more stimulus/bailouts. After all, we’ve been bailout nation for how many years now?

  89. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Pot is another black mark on the criminal justice system. Like how many lives did they ruin for pot. That’s pretty messed up. It is what it is. Just messed up to ruin someone’s life for pot. No one should go to jail for that or pay massive fines for that.

    Love the cops that pat each other on the back for a pot bust. Wow, you guys are heroes. You just ruined another harmless citizen’s life. Seriously, how do you live with yourself. Talk about making money in a sleazy way.

  90. 1987 Condo says:

    Home…”court packing”!! I love it, shades of FDR!!

  91. homeboken says:

    Pumpkin – Cops should be virtual, just like your favorite profession.

    Have a home invasion, you can handle that yourself. If you need to Skype with a police officer, just log in and they will walk you through the tough spots.

  92. Phoenix says:

    “Message I am getting from young people is they don’t care Election wise. Definitely no interest in Biden.”

    Same from the young ones I work with. And I have trained many in the last 2 years.
    Really good kids.

  93. homeboken says:

    And if you aren’t satisfied with the publicly funded virtual police, you always have the option to hire private security, at your own expense of course. After all, police work is a public good, like education. So you still have to pay for the cops to work remotely.

    I mean, think of all the people a cop has to interact with everyday. The amount of virus exposure has to be enormous. Too risky, let them WFH.

  94. Juice Box says:

    Welcome back Comrade. I see you have been polishing your hardware. Don’t rub it too hard the serial numbers might come off.

  95. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Home,

    Was driving by an elementary school in Clifton on my way to the rental the other day. They literally rented a storage unit and were putting desks and chairs into it. Schools are already underfunded and now we are going to piss away money accommodating the classrooms for live teaching that won’t be a real classroom experience anyway. Hope it’s worth it.

  96. grim says:

    Denied participation in the NJ redevelopment authority rental assistance.

    Businesses that sell alcohol are specifically excluded from the program.

    So much for being a second class citizen that pays a f*ckload in taxes.

  97. SomeOne says:

    Phoenix


    Conversation on Zoom
    Student: Hey Teach, why are your eyes glowing red?
    Teacher: It’s probably a problem with your monitor or Chromebook. Pay attention.
    Student: But then why is it only your eyes are red?
    Teacher: You have 2 stuck pixels. Class dismissed.

    Can’t similar logic be extended to alcohol? Being low on sleep?

  98. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Home,

    Just so you know, I’ve said this numerous times; I want to open up schools.

    I want to open up everything. Too bad most people don’t agree with me. Especially when it comes to opening schools, I don’t want the negative energy from parents like you that will go on the attack if they don’t open. That ship has sailed, and now I have to thicken up the skin and absorb the constant attacks. Not the first time I have been through this, and won’t be the last.

  99. Juice Box says:

    Grim – Wait until we find out Murphy’s buddies own all the credit default swap action on all that commercial paper.

  100. Juice Box says:

    Yesterday’s tornado was pretty close by maybe the next one will get me.

    We have confirmed that an EF0 tornado touched down yesterday morning, August 19, just before 10AM in the Lincroft section of Middletown Township, NJ.

    https://twitter.com/NWS_MountHolly/status/1296465054242672641/photo/1

  101. homeboken says:

    Pumps – Either you have a terrible memory or you don’t really believe everything (schools included) should be opened.

    It was only yesterday I mentioned day care centers and the total absence of stories that those day cares have led to virus spread. You responded, almost immediately, telling me how a day care is so different from a school and that they are not appropriate comparisons.

    For someone that believes we should open up everything, you certainly spend a lot of time defending the virtually schooling option.

    Either you are very confused or you are a terrible liar.

  102. Juice Box says:

    Speaking of Weather.

    Napa burning again big time.

    https://twitter.com/EthanSwopePhoto/status/1295954787477811200

  103. Phoenix says:

    SomeOne
    And allergies.

  104. 3b says:

    Phoenix: There was real enthusiasm for Sanders that I saw, even with my own kids back in 2016, right or wrong. That’s gone now. They have become cynical. And as far as AOC I have not seen any enthusiasm from young people that are familiar with her. The general feeling is who talks like that, she sounds like she is in middle school.

  105. 3b says:

    Bill Clinton is sorely lacking self awareness when he talks about how a President should act in the White House.

  106. Libturd says:

    “Probably doesn’t hurt that America is three quarters moron.”

    Holy Qanon. Today is the first day I actually looked up who they are. Now I understand how Trump resonates with them as does the MyPillow guy. In other news, read today that Goya is really hurting. I guess the Red team got sick of eating beans and rice.

    As to the election. There are some decent points here made left and right. I agree that the young people will only vote if you throw in a free beard comb or a coupon for the local tattoo shop. Though two things are different in 2020 than in 2016. First, HRC sucked and Trump’s attacks on the Clinton’s were relentless. So much so that even many on the Left believed it. There hasn’t been much of an attack on sleepy/creepy Joe. No Benghazi. No deleted email server housing confidential email. No Uranium deals or Swiss bank accounts or Wall Street speeches to criticize. No Bannon to drum up xenophobic populism. Sure, Trump has his loud and loyal supporters, but those undecided swing voters who chose MAGA over a corrupt HRC have not seen any meaningful benefit from MAGA. And Biden is Mr. Clean compared to the corrupt lying hack that was HRC.

    The second issue is that Trump is now a known product. Much like the swing voters pulled the lever for Obama when it was clear W was in over his head, the same exact scenario is upon us with Trump in over his head. Populism died with Covid 19. Quite frankly, you can’t blame the pandemic on black people and Mexicans. Supposed violent protests? Sure! And the Right wing press is pushing this narrative as hard as they can. But if no one is dying, it’s really a nothingburger (hate that term, but it makes me laugh, so I will continue to use it). There was not much hatred of Trump in 2016. That is very different know.

    So the question to ask is. Will the lack of youth participation overcome the strength of the hatred that non Trump loyalists have? Is Biden’s alleged senility as much a deterrent to the swing voter as HRC’s clear flaws were?

    I hope all of the alpha male reactions that Trump fished for on Tweeter these past four years was worth the hatred that it developed for him. In my opinion, those loud lips significantly damaged his ship. His complete mishandling of Covid was like the finishing torpedo shot to the hull.

  107. 3b says:

    Comrade: If what you say comes to pass, we will be on the road to a break up of the USA, or perhaps a reconfiguration of the country as a confederation.

  108. Libturd says:

    On opening up schools and frankly everything else.

    So much of the focus has been on figuring out phases and managed risk (as well as managed revenue).

    The truth is, none of this sh1t would matter if:
    1) Masks weren’t politicized (but that’s old hat by now).
    2) People would just wear a mask when within spitting range of a non-family member regardless of whether they were inside or out.

    When this Pandemic is over in the US, I’m sure it will have resulted in 5 trillion dollars in stimulus spending. That’s a huge number. So huge that it is equal to a quarter of our GDP. Now wouldn’t it have just been smarter to lock down for two full months, pay everyone whatever their income WOULD have been and then reopened the economy much like the rest of the world has done with masks, hygiene and contact tracing for those couple of flare ups that would undoubtedly occur? Perhaps used the military to deliver food like Door Dash?

    Nah. It was a hoax. And now our debt is back above WWII levels.

    Masks and hygiene. We are the dumbest country in the world. I really can’t wait to leave it.

  109. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I was simply trying to show you their point of view. That’s why I clearly stated the following:

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    August 19, 2020 at 9:38 am
    People are afraid to get the virus. Until this is not the case, we are screwed. I’m all for opening up the economy and risking getting the virus, but that’s not the norm, most think that position is crazy.

    Look at school planning, it’s a riot. You have some parents that demand virtual and others that demand in person. Have strong opinions all over the place. Just wake me up when this virus is over, this is a living hell.

    homeboken says:
    August 20, 2020 at 11:34 am
    Pumps – Either you have a terrible memory or you don’t really believe everything (schools included) should be opened

  110. Fast Eddie says:

    His complete mishandling of Covid was like the finishing torpedo shot to the hull.

    I thought the governors were the ones to take the blame or accolades?

  111. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    I see what you see. All the youth see is a continual uphill battle for something that should be reasonable.
    The one’s I am talking about are all educated, but not staying put, they just keep jumping like electrons to the next energy level. Constantly in school, but to run from work, to prefer to manage as the work is no longer rewarding.
    Unlike the Millennials, they save like squirrels, work overtime, and are better with technology by a long shot.
    The majority I work with are under / close to 30/ not married/no kids/no houses but in serious relationships.
    They are pleasant, helpful and eager to learn. And cynical.

  112. Phoenix says:

    “Seems a bit inconsistent when you put this up against Atilis Gym..”

    Judges are like a box of chocolates….

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The man has a very very good point. The pandemic had to become politicized. Shame. As soon as an issue becomes politicized, it’s over..

    “When this Pandemic is over in the US, I’m sure it will have resulted in 5 trillion dollars in stimulus spending. That’s a huge number. So huge that it is equal to a quarter of our GDP. Now wouldn’t it have just been smarter to lock down for two full months, pay everyone whatever their income WOULD have been and then reopened the economy much like the rest of the world has done with masks, hygiene and contact tracing for those couple of flare ups that would undoubtedly occur? Perhaps used the military to deliver food like Door Dash?

    Nah. It was a hoax. And now our debt is back above WWII levels.”

  114. Phoenix says:

    Pumpy,
    Now you are worried about the debt? Before you said no one will ever pay it back.
    Flip-Flop.

  115. homeboken says:

    Principles du jour.

    Look at K Harris – She absolutely skewers Biden on the DNC debate stage. That was only 5 months ago. When asked about that, on the very friendly Colbert late show, her answer was a very odd laughing fit while repeating – It was a debate! HAHAHA.

    Watch the video – It’s under 60 seconds – I find this gross:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGliLOzUZUk

    Don’t you dummies get it. I don’t really care about any of this stuff, just vote for me. I am the proper gender and have the right skin pigmentation.

  116. leftwing says:

    “That St Louis couple is going to speak on diversity and bringing the country together? What a warm and positive theme.”

    “Trump’s tirade against Goodyear the other day is going to lose him what’s left of the support of corporate America. Another massive backfire.”

    Nope. Not at all. Playing a different game. Anger wins swing states.

    The lack of understanding of middle America – which are the only votes that count – is astounding.

    It is difficult to overstate the level to which these people feel they have been silenced, mocked, used, and just generally run over by media, lifetime politicans, and the elite. Their view is the country splintered in Nov 2016 when the powers that be committed to exiting DJT before he even sat in the Oval Office.

    They are pissed. They don’t want unity. They want raw meat. Black and Blue.

    Trump is smacking each of their hot button issues like a birthday boy on meth.

    Corporate America? Why the fcuk would he care? They hate him already anyway, he knows it, everyone knows it….as a foil though……

    All middle America saw yesterday was a slide that said “BLM Permitted; Blue Lives Matter Not Permitted”. And the MSM media spinning it again that Middle America’s view makes them a bunch of racists….The McCloskeys? Brilliant. A married people in their 60s charged for brandishing weapons on their own property. In Missouri, no less /facepalm/….we’ll get some quotes at the Convention that will make the Coasts cluck their tongues in disapproval as ‘racist’ and ‘dog whistle’…and then the people on the oceans can go cast their meaningless votes and we’ll see who the Midwest elects as President…..

    Grim threw a gratuitous insult about 3/4 of the country being different…..I would agree but suggest it is the 3/4 who are the baseline and the 1/4 are the ones who are actually different.

  117. Phoenix says:

    All you need to know about elections you can learn from Adam.
    Adam Ruins Everything.
    He did one on elections.
    Netflix.

  118. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phoenix,

    Wasn’t worried about the debt, was worried about sacrificing and moving on. Sacrificed for no reason, that’s what I got out of his post. All because the issue was politicized.

  119. The Great Pumpkin says:

    34 year old sent me this text. North jersey market.

    “Yo the housing market is crazy. Just found out a house we looked for 399k sold for 462k and got our interest dropped further down to 2.5%”

  120. grim says:

    Trump is smacking each of their hot button issues like a birthday boy on meth.

    Feel like they may be growing tired of promises that don’t materialize.

  121. grim says:

    Housing market is nuts. Lines down the block for open houses.

  122. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I told him this would happen years ago, wish he listened.

  123. leftwing says:

    “Bill Clinton is sorely lacking self awareness when he talks about how a President should act in the White House.”

    yeah, even the Left realized he overstepped there….No one less than colbert mocked him nearly word for word as above…..

    “There hasn’t been much of an attack on sleepy/creepy Joe.”

    Post Labor Day. Pissing into the wind now.

    “Supposed violent protests? Sure! And the Right wing press is pushing this narrative as hard as they can. But if no one is dying, it’s really a nothingburger”

    So you’ll now be applying the same death standard to C19 I presume and not worry about cases any more?

    “Comrade: If what you say comes to pass, we will be on the road to a break up of the USA, or perhaps a reconfiguration of the country as a confederation.”

    I think this would be positive, would support it.

  124. leftwing says:

    Lyft to CA politicians: Fcuk Off.

  125. Juice Box says:

    You build it and they will come, you don’t need Uber or Lyft to hail a ride.

    “The week after Uber and Lyft left Austin in spring 2016 was confusing, drivers from the city say. People who hadn’t followed the news, or voted in the election, got mad. Others got desperate. “In the downtown bar area, people were going up to the cars on the street, banging on the window, and waving cash at them,” says Christopher David, who founded an Uber competitor, Arcade City, in Austin. “There was a huge shortage of cars.”

    Soon, though, replacements arrived. Arcade City began as a Facebook group that paired drivers with people who needed to get places. (The operation has run into trouble with the law for improper permitting.) Other platforms willing to follow the city’s new rules trickled in over the next weeks and months: Fare, Fasten, Wingz, GetMe, and the nonprofit RideAustin. The city eventually established a hotline and then a job fair for drivers who had lost work.

    But Austin drivers who spoke to WIRED said their best fares came from opportunities they created themselves. “Within a couple weeks or so, I started realizing it’s actually better that [Uber and Lyft] are not here,” says Miguel Monsivais, who drove for both companies starting in 2015. “This is our money, and it belongs to us. It belongs to the community.” Today, Monsivais drives a pedicab and picks up passengers for Arcade City, which still operates in Austin. He has also set up regular rides with repeat customers—something the ride-hail apps don’t allow drivers to do.”

    https://www.wired.com/story/uber-lyft-flee-california-austin/

  126. 30 year realtor says:

    Tons of buyers. Limited number of motivated sellers. Downward pressure on commission rates. Covid will accelerate changes in the real estate industry. The days of a the 5% commission are behind us. I will take 1% on the listing side all day long if you are a realistic seller. Buyers agents will accept 2% on their side. As information is more easily available the value of agents falls. The real value in a listing agent is now advice and experience. All marketing by real estate agents beyong top quality photos and video is total BS.

  127. Walking says:

    Hear hear 30 year.! You are correct. I remember taking a book out from the library something like ” how to buy real estate” back in the 90s when the wife and I made our first purchase and had no clue. Even back then we bought the home from a co worker whose parents had a neighbor that was selling and looking to retire in cape may. The stuff the realtor showed us was an absolute waste of time. One home backed up against rt 80- in Elmwood Park – you-all enjoy not being surrounded by neighbors, how about this home next to a bowling alley? All junk not even lipstick on those pics.

  128. leftwing says:

    “As information is more easily available the value of agents falls.”

    The only way 6% was ever justified is when they had a total monopoly on information. I’m old enough to remember those white pages-thick MLS books…

    “The real value in a listing agent is now advice and experience.”

    Which means they are nearly useless in 90% of cases….By experience and presentation I’m sure you fall in the 10% 30yr…….the top agent around me now? Relatively new to the business, smart, college educated. But, what can she do that someone else with her background can’t? Honestly, while again she is pretty sharp it is laughable to think that she is going to have any meaningful value added to someone nearly her age who is a business owner, lawyer, banker, or other professional. maybe there is some value to first time buyers….

    Right now, for an experienced buyer/seller, they are a time saving personal services provider….scheduling an open house, being there, front-end screening, some advice on presentation…nothing wrong with that but certainly not worth $60k or so….

  129. Juice box says:

    FBI had a fun day arresting Steve Bannon, did they hitch a ride from the coast guard?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WTNH

  130. grim says:

    Was the dude hiding out on his boat? Is it his boat? For sale, $28 million dollars.

  131. homeboken says:

    NJ Police Union – Endorses Trump

    But yeah, you guys are right, it will be a Biden blowout….right.

    https://www.nj.com/news/2020/08/new-jerseys-largest-police-union-endorses-trump-as-lawmakers-weigh-more-policing-reforms.html

  132. Fabius Maximus says:

    Yep, safe for the kids to back.

    Georgia State QB announces he has a heart condition from COVID 19 and won’t play this year
    https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/1296486281405501440

  133. Libturd says:

    “So you’ll now be applying the same death standard to C19 I presume and not worry about cases any more?”

    Not the same standard whatsoever, unless the riots first killed 170K and on their way up to 200K. Are these riots hurting anyone? Not really. Just damaging the ego of Left Wingers.

    Yeah, I know a few cops got hit by rocks and a couple took some serious blows, but they’ll all live. And the buildings will be rebuilt and the statues probably replaced by more meaningful ones. But those 170K are never coming back. Chances are 50K or more will have long-term ill effects which will impact their life expectancy and quality of life until they croak. Officer Smith will get some stitches and will move on to a wonderful retirement.

  134. Libturd says:

    Leftwing, as of now, the MidAtlantic tourney is still on for the 28-30th. The EJ is probably going to be cancelled. I would just as well have them cancel the MidAtlantic tourney. All sports, pro and recreational, are a sh1tshow until Covid is over.

    Home…did we bet? Cause the option is still there if you want it.

  135. Fabius Maximus says:

    If you are worried about the kids not going out to vote, did you miss Billie Ellish. Add in Tae Tae and the like and they’ll be there.

  136. Libturd says:

    I wish that was the case.

    You’ll see. They don’t come out to vote. Not sure why? Perhaps they are the smartest ones among us knowing that it’s same sh1t, different party.

  137. Juice Box says:

    Let’s say they young people in New Jersey do to go out to vote at the one polling station in your town. How long are they going to stand around waiting for Grandma Karen and grandpa Tony to finish complaining to Myopic Mary the poll worker about filling out a paper ballot?

  138. ExEssex says:

    3:06 everybody, except the COPS, hates the cops in New Jersey an nearly every other State. Certainly the threat of defunding and the desire to kill immunity for COPs is behind this. Beside, wHo lIsTenS tO uNiOns aNywAy…..?

  139. ExEssex says:

    12:28 look you have two completely out of touch elderly white guys on the one side and another old-timer on the other side. Kamala and her energy are infectious. She resonates with a lot of people who have never seen someone like “themselves” elected to high office. It’s a very very big deal. She’ll be great.

  140. Fabius Maximus says:

    So the word is that the US Postal Inspection Service took down Bannon. That would be some Irony. NYT is reporting that the boat belongs to a Chinese Billionaire.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/23/us/politics/steve-bannon-guo-wengui.html

    The cherry on top would be if the Wall PAC threw a few dollars to Curt Schilling. I can only hope.

  141. Juice Box says:

    Back to the possibly January 2021 delay in the vaccine due to not enough diversity testing.

    How about they start offering prisoners time off for signing up? I am sure they will find plenty of volunteers.

  142. 3b says:

    Lib: I won’t be voting, but to some of my friends I will remain suspect. I have to vote for Biden, according to one I am the reason Trump one last time!!

    It’s nice adults who never cared about politics are now WOKE, but it would be helpful if they understood how the system works!!

  143. Juice Box says:

    I was hoping Russian Oligarch but a Chinese Billionare will do.

  144. Juice Box says:

    3B – I understand completely. Even when the party has both houses and the presidency they can never pass any real reforms. It’s almost as if the politicians do not work for the people that elected them.

  145. Fabius Maximus says:

    And there it is, what a day!

    Today’s Five is now receiving reports that ex-Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling has also been arrested and is in custody. Although charges have not been announced as of yet, the arrest comes after alleged involvement with Steve Bannon.
    https://todaysfive.com/curt-schilling-arrested-involvement-fraud/

  146. 3b says:

    Juice: Almost they don’t!! Too bad the sone of the giddy like school girls Dem supporters on this blog refuse to acknowledge it. Hope and Change, Make America Great Again, Build Back Better!! All a bunch of BS!! Feck em all!!

  147. Phoenix says:

    “Kamala and her energy are infectious.”

    Like Gonorrhea

  148. Phoenix says:

    Grandma Karen, grandpa Tony and Myopic Mary are the problem.

    They have been picking winners for years.

  149. ExEssex says:

    Uh oh….. “With record low travel demand, thousands of hotels can’t afford to pay their commercial mortgages and are facing foreclosure with the harsh reality of having to close their doors permanently,” said Chip Rogers, CEO of the American Hotel & Lodging Association, in a statement Tuesday. He added that “tens of thousands” of hotel employees and other jobs in the industry are at risk if federal aid isn’t administered.
    Covid-19 has suppressed demand for travel, evident in the recent string of miserable quarterly financial reports for hotel chains and airlines.
    As a result, delinquency rates within the commercial mortgage-backed securities market are at an all-time high.

  150. SomeOne says:

    Phoenix says:

    “Kamala and her energy are infectious.”
    Like Gonorrhea

    Still stuck in middle school?

  151. ExEssex says:

    3:53 Magical Thinking? like putting a failed, corrupt businessman in charge of the USA and hoping that everything works out?

    Well it didn’t.

  152. Phoenix says:

    SomeOne

    Is that the age bracket you are interested in?

    See you on To Catch a Predator.

  153. 3b says:

    Ex Essex: And what will we get in return when he is gone? More of the same crap that helped in large measure to get him elected.

  154. leftwing says:

    “Kamala and her energy are infectious.”

    She dated Willie Brown. That disqualifies her right there. Fcuking gross.

  155. 3b says:

    Two shot and one killed in Brooklyn in broad daylight, while De Blasio defends his wife’s staff of 14 that costs 2 million a year, including 70k a year for a Videographer!! And he wants a list from department heads for layoffs including EMT!!

  156. leftwing says:

    Bannon bail at $5m. Sounds high, greater than the amount he was accused of skimming I believe?

    I’ll take a glance at the indictment tonight. Not really sure what they have….a fundraising where public statements were made that compensation would not be taken and then a change of mind and compensation taken is what’s being reported…Can’t see how that’s binding, let alone fraud….angle would have to be that they were operating a 501(c)3 in which case yes they are probably fcuked.

    In any case pure politics….SDNY hates anything Trump….had an exchange with someone on here a week or so ago over something Trump admin did that was a gratuitous drive up on the curb and hit somebody….can’t recall what it was but said at the time it was just brass knuckle politics…protect your own, hurt the opposition’s guys….here’s payback the Left to DJT…business as usual.

    Not sure what it gets them….Bannon is a vocal guy so he’s going to make a stink about it and it doesn’t affect the tri-state vote…..could add to the persecution complex of midwest voters though…..

  157. leftwing says:

    Lib, yeah, hockey feels like just going through the motions until the clock runs out shortly….we’re not even starting until Sept.

  158. Phoenix says:

    De Blasio defends his wife’s staff of 14 that costs 2 million a year, including 70k a year for a Videographer.

    The level of hubris is astounding.

  159. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Of course if it was a Republican there would be outrage!! These Liberals love the good life when they get into power!!

  160. Grim says:

    Left

    501c4

  161. SmallGovConservative says:

    Not surprising that the guys here that want to be governed by Harris/Biden/Pelosi are a little giddy coming out of the Dem convention — they’re meant to energize, at least temporarily, the true believers. ExSex especially giddy if his wife/head-of-household is happy. Flab I assume is happy because he knows that that trio will do nothing to stop the growing anti-semitic wing of the Dem party. I’m sure he’d love to see a Jeremy Corbyn type figure emerge in the Dem party — making it the second major party in the west to be led by an open anti-semite. Lib surprises me to some extent because his personal story, if I remember correctly, has nothing in common with the modern Dem party — he seems more a legacy Dem; a guy who’s a Dem because his father was a Dem and his father’s-father was a Dem before him. Just doesn’t seem ready to admit that the modern Dem party has ‘left’ him behind — literally radicalized to the point that it bears no resemblance to the largely pro-labor, blue-collar party that his father supported. I predict Lib will be a Republican some day — the radicalization of the Dem party will eventually give him no choice.

  162. Juice Box says:

    Kolfage -Seen him on TV talking about the wall a while back. To me $20,000 a month is not enough to take a chance to go to jail for it, but this guy is a triple amputee, did not seem to have too many ways to make money.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/20/the-lavish-life-of-alleged-border-wall-scammer-brian-kolfage/

  163. SmallGovConservative says:

    Grim calling the election for Biden the day after the Dem convention is a bit of a surprise — I wonder if he did the same for Hillary in 2016. In either case, I thought he’d be a bit more cautious and deliberate than that. Not saying he’s wrong, but as someone pointed out, it demonstrates a real lack of understanding of the people that make up flyover country.

  164. joyce says:

    My views on cloth face coverings for the public for preventing COVID-19
    Michael T. Osterholm
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/commentary-my-views-cloth-face-coverings-public-preventing-covid-19

  165. Juice Box says:

    re :”Fcuking gross”

    Yes she has daddy issues so she “dated” a man who at the time was 31 years older than her. There is probably more to unpack but I am surprised she actually married a man at the ripe ole age of 48. By that age more women are done with men.

  166. ExEssex says:

    5:26 so what are your bonafides re: flyover country?

    Ever lived there? Spent time in the rust belt? Farm belt? Bible Belt?

    Betcha the Dens win PA and MI this time. If so, Trump is dunzo.

  167. Juice box says:

    Strange Cali Governor Newsom pulled out of the DNC appearance tonight, what makes it strange is His remarks were already taped.

  168. Juice Box says:

    Fab – Dry out your panties, Curt Schilling Was not arrested.

  169. Grim says:

    My prediction was that Trump would be assassinated.

    Still surprised that I was wrong.

  170. Phoenix says:

    To me $20,000 a month is not enough to take a chance to go to jail for it.”

    Some people will kill for way less.

    Plus Ashley looks quite expensive.

  171. Phoenix says:

    Preparing her defense- take him but I’m not going to jail…

    “Reached by phone, Ashley defended her husband, who is due in Florida federal court Thursday afternoon, and said she made her own money.

    I make my own money with all the stuff that I do,” she added. “I have not spent a penny of his money on all of that.”

  172. Juice box says:

    Chi in LBI downtown red bank is the place to be tonight, it’s jumping with eye candy.

  173. Juice box says:

    Never see too many Lamborghini SUV around Spied the two of them in downtown red Bank tonight, Every parking space is taken all lots and streets,And 90% of the people are not wearing masks, Huge amount outdoor dining no tables look free tons of people just walking about.

    Don’t tell governor Murphy

  174. Grim says:

    Ohhhhh Ashley

  175. Libturd says:

    “It’s almost as if the politicians do not work for the people that elected them.”

    Truer words have rarely been said.

    I am really not a Democrat nor a Republican. Can’t stand party politics. I am always willing to admit when either side fukcs up.

    For example, Trump is 100% correct that the Dems have failed the blacks. But he didn’t anything to help them either. I will also admit that the Dems want illegal immigration to maintain their voting rolls. On the flip side, the Republicans always talk fiscal conservatism and increase the deficit like there is no tomorrow. Likewise, they say they are anti-abortion, but they also defund birth control. Makes absolutely no sense. I am fiercely pro choice. I’ll take millions of preborn babies murdered humanely over what ALWAYS happens when abortion is made illegal. There are still the same number of murdered babies. Only the poorer member of society sometimes die too. The wealthier Republicans will still have access as will the wealthier Democrats. And the number of unwanted drug addicted babies will increase te-fold. If the Republicans want to ban abortions, I could never support that party. I do wish the Dems would be more fair about gun control. Though ultimately, at the end of the day. It’s almost as if the politicians do not work for the people that elected them.

    Regardless of parties, I can’t stand Trump. He is not just uncouth. He is truly the worlds biggest asshole. You can say whatever you want about the Clinton’s and the Obama’s. Trump is no better than the bully everyone hated back in grade school. Populism is fascism. It should be stopped every time it raises its ugly head.

  176. Libturd says:

    Betcha the 10% in Red Bank wearing masks are the 35 and older set.

    Don’t complain when you are teaching virtually BRT. The 34 and under set have brought it on themselves.

  177. Juice Box says:

    Lib- you took my bait, it was meant for another fish.

    Anyway, I will chime in on your response. Abortion is a difficult but preventable to an undesirable situation for some women. I prefer prevention aka birth control but the Dems don’t necessarily want that either.

    Implanon, Norplant, Depo-Provera are examples. Fought tooth and nail in the courts by the Dems. I wrote a paper about it eons ago. Argument is Government should not dictate procreation for people that are mentally ill, poor, or addicted to drugs etc. I am not talking about sterilization just birth control the kind you cannot forget to take.

    If you are bored look it up, goes back in law to the bad old days of 100 years ago when it was forced sterilization. The modern methods well nothing is perfect as we know side effects and all.

    Goverment can do lots of stuff according to both parties but some of it is off limits…

  178. 3b says:

    It’s amazing how Liberals claim to love the poor and disenfranchised, but have nothing but contempt for those in fly over country. Those folks are hurting and have been. Hillary did not even bother to campaign there. Then from their perspective when it appears there is more concern for illegal immigrants than them, they are automatically labeled racist. Funny, though those Liberals don’t want low and moderate income housing in their towns yet that’s not racist. Let’s build low income housing in Summit and Basking Ridge, and Ryebrook, and Redondo Beach. Populism is a disease, but it comes from discontent and much of it is warranted. Did Trump address these concerns? No? But he will be a 4 year and done. Will 40 plus years in Washington address them ? No. There will be more Trumps and Sanders down the road. The bought and paid for elites have pushed the envelope too far, and it’s going to bite them in the ass.

  179. libturd says:

    I impregnated a 13-year old. I was 12. It’s hardly preventable in a lot of situations when you are part of it. Trust me. Later in college, I paid for another one. This time the condom ripped. I suppose the world should just abstain. Most people won’t even wear masks, but you expect them to abstain?

    Politics do suck.

  180. Libturd says:

    3B, I look forward to it.

    I’ll be laughing if it’s AOC.

    For the record, Biden has already removed much of his progressive positions from the debate days until now. He has actually made the changes to his website. It’s going to be a very ugly corporate thank you fest for a while. Wonder if Bernie runs in 2024?

  181. ExEssex says:

    7:34 Those youth group overnights! Oy

  182. Juice Box says:

    3b – You noticed a trend here. Hillary and Bill are from fly over they did not go back after the got a taste of Hollywood East aka DC. Same for Barry he won’t be back to live in Chicago.

    Jimmy Carter went home, Eisenhower went to raise cattle in PA and paint. GWB went down on the range to paint and sell books of his paintings on Amazon, his dad went to Maine. Nixon well he landed in New Jersey. I used hear about him when I worked at the Marriott in Park Ridge NJ parking cars.

  183. Libturd says:

    Very cute girl from Spotswood. Huge hooters already. What’s a barely pubescent youngest of seven siblings to do when confronted by such a situation. She literally seduced me. The funny thing is, my step father (who I consider my dad) always talked about her as his favorite. Little did he know. I delivered a lot of papers to pay for it, trust me, a lot. We took a bus to New Brunswick. Oh those were the days. NB was still kind of grimy then.

  184. Juice Box says:

    Lib – Not that long ago you would have just gotten married and all. Tradition!! We all have our stories, and I don’t think anyone here is an angel, point is education and prevention. It’s not 1960 this should be preventable to a degree, and if it’s not then the government should provide what I mentioned before, but the Dems have seen fit to prevent that too.

  185. Juice Box says:

    re: “I delivered a lot of papers to pay for it, trust me, a lot”

    We had several paper routes in our family passed down like an heirloom from generation to generation. It was the only way to get candy bars and comic books and if you were brave enough to venture into town and the old man with the five foot beard was working a nudie mag, his wife just chased us out of the store. Man do I miss my BMX bike.

  186. homeboken says:

    Chicago mayor Lori lightfoot was asked about her use of police to stop protestors from marching on the street in front of her home “I have a right to make sure my home is secure”

    Everybody else can f*CK off I suppose.

  187. Juice Box says:

    You cannot march in-front Biden’s or Kamala’s house either the Secret Service brook no bullshit.

  188. SomeOne says:

    Phoenix,

    Your post about Kamala was juvenile and has no place here, irrespective of your age bracket.

  189. Juice Box says:

    SomeOne – lighten up and take a toke already.

  190. Phoenix says:

    SomeOne
    Your interest in juveniles is not my concern.

  191. Grim says:

    Biden accepting the nomination from his basement?

  192. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I did Asbury today, lots of people, more than normal. Did dinner at Mr. Shrimp in Belmar. They were mobbed for takeout orders.

  193. 3b says:

    Lib: Bernie will be too old, but Warren will run.

  194. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Betcha the 10% in Red Bank wearing masks are the 35 and older set.

    Don’t complain when you are teaching virtually BRT. The 34 and under set have brought it on themselves.

    I’m not sure we can do any better with the numbers. In my county, the day they went virtual, entire country registered a grand total of 5 new cases. Currently, at the local major hospital in Princeton, they have ZERO covid cases. If you can’t start school under those conditions, none will be satisfactory.

  195. Grim says:

    The teleprompter reading here is awful

  196. 3b says:

    Abortion should not even really be an issue, birth control is cheap and readily available. I am personally opposed to abortion but if people want to have it then fine. A few Karen’s over the years use it as birth control, then when they decide they want a kid they have trouble conceiving as serial abortions do a number on the insides. I knew a woman years ago who had 6!!

  197. Juice Box says:

    Julia Scarlett Elizabeth Louis-Dreyfus…….boring…..

  198. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Get those deals

    “What’s that Mark Twain quote?” Ms. Fisher asked. “’Ru­mors of my death were greatly ex­ag­ger­ated.’”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-new-york-real-estate-11597939146?st=z3lx2en6y1t1kjs&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  199. Fabius Maximus says:

    SmallGov,

    That’s a very interesting post. Many of us have been here a long time, we have seen people come and go, but the old timers know each other very well. When a new name pops up, we have to work out, is it actually a new name or someone posting under an alias.

    You and Truth popped up. Now its clear that Truth is just plying a job in the Troll Farm, but your one was something different. If I had to pick a person behind the alias, I would without a doubt have said ExPat. Apparently he shuffled off the mortal coil when I was on hiatus! RIP.

    Now given Pumps vehement denials of false posting, it leaves me to wonder did ExPat get hacked on the front end, or Grim on the backend? I have noticed since I came back here, one of my old emails is getting a lot of offers from nice ladies to share a file with me!

  200. Chi in LBI says:

    Why aren’t you rapt with attention to Comrade Biden?

  201. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Strong response…has a point

    “Biden has EXPENSIVE intentions for how he’ll spend the tax HIKES he has planned for Americans.

    Over 10 yrs his plans would cost TRILLIONS:
    —Universal childcare & elder care=$775B
    —Obamacare expansion=$750B
    —Housing plan=$640B
    —Infrastructure=$1.3T
    —Education=$850B
    #DemConvention”

    “Oh no. People will have better schools, healthcare, and infrastructure? THE HORROR.”

  202. Chi in LBI says:

    Biden was neutral. Now at the end with the systemic racial sh!t is a fcuk up.

    Q: how did they allow Hunter Biden to be out there?

    WTF was that?

  203. Chi says:

    I apologize for being incredibly crass, but AOC’s connection with men ends about 2 minutes after they are done. Afterward, there is no way they would want to deal with attitude and the voice. They would be out of there. No way they wake up in the morning with that.

    30 year realtor says:
    August 20, 2020 at 7:54 am
    Juice,

    Keep blasting out every fart that passes through your brain. AOC resonates with young people. Despite the nonsense you post about her brief words to 2nd Sanders nomination, her presence is an asset to the DNC for connecting with young voters.

  204. ExEssex says:

    AOC talks like a 4th grader, but she’s stacked.

  205. Chi says:

    Would be embarrassing, except it’s just so patently stupid.

    WSJ

    California’s Blackout Warning

    Anti-fossil fuel mandates are leading to electricity shortages.

    Elec­tric­ity black­outs are aw­ful at any time, but es­pe­cially dur­ing an ex­treme heat wave and for rea­sons that are man-made. That’s what mil­lions in Cal­i­for­nia have been en­dur­ing in re­cent days, and their plight is a warn­ing to the rest of Amer­ica about the risks of Green New Deal poli­cies.

  206. Fabius Maximus says:

    Chi,
    I apologize for being incredibly crass, but A0C and you, NEVER HAPPENING!

    But, I get it, you need some release, so here you go. https://tinyurl.com/y4y4f2j3

  207. Fabius Maximus says:

    Q: how did they allow Hunter Biden to be out there?

    So when we are at the GOP convention next week, can we ask the same question for Trumps 3 oldest Kids?!

    I do hope the youngest are not rolled out!

  208. grim says:

    Good show by ol’ Joe.

    Surprised at how many Republican talking points he took. PPE to be made in the USA. Strong promise of national defense. Self reliance. Rebuilding and investing infrastructure. Bringing back millions of American manufacturing jobs. God. Moms. Soldiers. and the American dream.

    Stick a fork in it.

  209. homeboken says:

    I have to say, I’m pretty disappointed in some of you. You all claim to be cynical and question leadership but so many have falling right into line like good little soldiers.

    The Babylon Bee says it best:

    HEADLINE – Man who has worked in highest levels of government for 50 years, promises to fix government.

  210. Grim says:

    Just call it like I see it.

    No worries though. Presidency is a far less important position than it’s made out to be. Deserve far less credit than they take, and the stakes are not as high as everyone would lead you to believe.

    We went that way last time, we go this way now. No biggie. Maybe next time we go that way again. This is forever the dynamic in our two party system, inevitably the party in power will piss off enough people that the power shifts. Is it worth it? Let me work it. I put my thing down, flip it and reverse it

    You can’t spot the trend if you’ve got a vested interest in it. You don’t necessarily even need to like it, and it’s probably better if you don’t care. Far less effort to try to fight it, than just adapt to it. Politicians don’t make the trends, they ride that wave the same way.

  211. homeboken says:

    Grim I agree,POTUS is a lightening rod, it takes big hits but isn’t responsible for much huge change.

    That said – Biden has been in govt for almost 5 decades. He is the personification of everything some many people rail against. Taxes, corruption, side deals, can’t hack it in the real world, etc. And yet, many here just calling it a victory. I just do not see it. 4 years ago people elected a freaking game show host bc they were sick of the status quo. Now you all think that little 4 year experiment is done and people will swallow the same old 1970s politician?

    Again, I may be wrong but I really believe that there are more voters that are not quite ready to embrace the past as is claimed to be via polls.

  212. grim says:

    They could put a corpse up against Trump and still have a good shot at winning.

  213. homeboken says:

    Grim by the way – I have a massive vested interest in team blue winning everything. Seriously, if DNC takes both houses and POTUS and gets AFFH signed/implemented, I will be retired in 5 years with more wealth than I will make in 20 without AFFH.

    So my financial interest runs counter to what I think is going to happen.

  214. grim says:

    Republicans going to spend the next 4 years wondering how they managed to do the exact same thing that the Democrats did in 2016. For at least 6 months after the election we’re going to hear nothing but Monday morning quarterbacking on what happened, how the Republicans lost touch with America, lost the support of the base, failed to deliver on promises to the American heartland, split the Republican Party and the vote, etc etc etc blah blah blah.

  215. ExEssex says:

    7:23 see? No one cares.

  216. 30 year realtor says:

    Hey Chi,

    Just because I mentioned AOC doesn’t mean my comment has anything to do with your hateful, misogynistic thoughts. Please leave me out of your stream of consciousness unless we are debating the same subject.

  217. ExEssex says:

    Republicans put a dangerously incomplete and corrupt imbecile in charge and it’s been a complete disaster. Any questions?

  218. grim says:

    Trump won’t win Pennsylvania and North Carolina. Ohio, Nevada, Arizona likely going to Biden as well. Doesn’t take much to put the swing states over the edge.

  219. ExEssex says:

    i’M pRinCiplEd I’m a tRuMp vOtEr.

    Lmfao

  220. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    The democrats spied in the incoming administration under false premises, launched a threee years witch hunt and tried to spike the entries transition. Oblama and his terrorist eats wil not be forgotten. I dont see That happening again.

  221. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    The democrats spied in the incoming administration under false premises, launched a three years witch hunt and tried to spike the entries transition. Oblama and his terrorist ways will not be forgotten. I don’t see That happening again.

  222. Chicago says:

    What kind of comment is that?
    I’ve dated several latinas. In most instances there is a price to be paid.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 21, 2020 at 12:18 am
    I apologize for being incredibly crass, but A0C and you, NEVER HAPPENING!

  223. leftwing says:

    “I predict Lib will be a Republican some day — the radicalization of the Dem party will eventually give him no choice.”

    Come over to the dark side Lib. Not RINO or country club Repub or Repub at all…Classic Liberalism or libertarian is fine…we’ll toss in a social safety net kicker for you. Open arms baby. Big tent.

    “I am surprised she actually married a man at the ripe ole age of 48. By that age more women are done with men.”

    Bachelor(ettes)s don’t get elected President. Political prop.

    “Ever lived there? Spent time in the rust belt? Farm belt? Bible Belt?”

    Yes. Yes. No. Yes. Parts of three generations still there. Including four aged 24-29.

  224. Chicago says:

    My friend. What I stated crassly is an actual point in response to your comment.

    AOC is very attractive and also is a firebrand. However, she is mostly bluster and will have a limited shelf life. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. She will eventually leave her seat because there will be far more money to be made in industry.

    She has nowhere to go because her rhetoric is going to piss off way to many people that could pave the way to success. She is also very young, very ignorant and is more part of pop culture than governing.

    Again, my point is that she offers little and is eminently replaceable.

    Men’s judgement may be temporarily clouded. However, once you give them what they REALLY want, suddenly clarity snaps back into place.

    Her future is in the media. The sand in falling through the egg timer.

    30 year realtor says:
    August 21, 2020 at 7:29 am
    Hey Chi,

    Just because I mentioned AOC doesn’t mean my comment has anything to do with your hateful, misogynistic thoughts. Please leave me out of your stream of consciousness unless we are debating the same subject

  225. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    SJWs call that a microagression, they find offense in all kinds of innocuous activities.

    It helps feed into their us vs them identity politics narrative

  226. homeboken says:

    Ex – Principles are a good thing, try it sometime.

    The trick is to spend time thinking about what you truly believe. Principles can change over time but they shouldn’t change drastically every election cycle. Having principles and an ideology you honestly believe is a key to happiness.

    I think some of you on this board have naturally been cynical of government but you have gone so far around the ring of cynicism, that you are back at the beginning.
    Falling for the story that the guy with less than 4 years in government is more entrenched in it than the people that have spent every moment of their adult life inside the beltway.

    Trump was a game show host. He was in movie cameos. He was “name checked” in over 200 pop music songs for the last 30+ years.

    2015 he announces a run for POTUS and instantly he becomes a monster racist?

    You guys truly believe that? Has it never occurred to you that Trump is the same guy he has been for his whole life? Maybe the left is just playing you for a giant fool?

    You may not like his style but I have never seen a hard core racist that make millions of dollars selling their personal name/brand over a period of decades.

    It is just totally illogical. A guy goes from pop culture icon to RACIST!!! all because he decides to run for POTUS?

    If the argument is, Trump isn’t racist but he is not fit to be president. Then I submit that neither is Biden. What you are voting for is handing over control of the executive branch to un-elected bureaucrats that have been life-long govt. teat suckers. The very same thing you all rail against every day on this board. Yet, you know welcome them with open arms.

    Shocking actually, you guys are so close to figuring this out but for some reason you can’t get over the hump.

    Whatever…. my check cashes the same way regardless. Have fun with it. I will be staying out of the political discussion here for now.

  227. Chicago says:

    Trump is 100% scumbag. He makes to claims. He is disgusting case closed.

    The Biden’s are bending over backward in self aggrandizement over what a warm, caring communicative father/grandfather he is. Then why is your son a crack addict knocking up pole dancers and influence peddling on your watch at minimum. If not openly effected with your collaboration.

    The Trump scions and in-laws are meh, but Hunter Biden’s multiple transgressions are some of the most humiliating things ever. Makes you wish for the days of Billy Carter.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 21, 2020 at 12:33 am
    Q: how did they allow Hunter Biden to be out there?

    So when we are at the GOP convention next week, can we ask the same question for Trumps 3 oldest Kids?!

    I do hope the youngest are not rolled out

  228. 30 year realtor says:

    Chi,

    All I said was that AOC appeals to young people. Clearly you don’t like her and you use all sorts of old school insults against women to make your point. It is possible to argue against a persons beliefs without resorting to such tactics. It is humorous to read your comments when the subject has anything to do with race, gender or sexuality. You devolve from an educated and articulate gentleman to a reactionary, threatened neanderthal.

  229. leftwing says:

    “Good show by ol’ Joe. Surprised at how many Republican talking points he took.”

    Makes me like him/them even less.

    I would rather vote for someone who has strongly held beliefs and principles different than mine, than vote for someone who has no compass and acts like a mirror reflecting what they believe I want to hear.

    It’s how I would have pulled the lever for Bernie this election had the DNC not shut him down a second time.

  230. Why am I not surprised …

  231. leftwing says:

    “I have to say, I’m pretty disappointed in some of you. You all claim to be cynical and question leadership but so many have falling right into line like good little soldiers.”

    Imperfect vessel…..I’ve said before, could you possibly imagine if someone – anyone – other than Trump sincerely grabbed the populist mantle in the Repub party? It would have buried the Dems for decades. Presidency, two houses, and SC as far as the eye can see….

    No one here as they all openly admit – hell no one anywhere – wants to vote FOR Joe.

    Everyone is voting AGAINST the Douche-in-Chief.

  232. Phoenix says:

    “I’ve dated several Latinas. In most instances there is a price to be paid.”

    Some of them are so attractive…

  233. Phoenix says:

    LW,
    I’ll admit it.

  234. 3b says:

    Left: I had planned on voting for Bernie for strategic reasons. I must say I am surprised you would have voted for him as well.

  235. leftwing says:

    Lib, nice writeup further up the thread on political beliefs. We likely overlap 80% despite getting there from opposite directions. Despite the occasional tweak I toss your way appreciate you.

    On the other topic…..I was one errant driver away from being in your shoes. I don’t know why that lost driver that night decided in the middle of nowhere to U-turn in our driveway but he spooked the sh1t out of my equally young date. Pissed me off wildly…nothing worse than 14 year old unsatisfied boner, it’s like dropping four v1agra, just won’t go away lol. But I owe that dumb lost motherfcuker a lot. A LOT.

  236. leftwing says:

    ^^^Life is a funny thing….

  237. Phoenix says:

    Until this country finds a way to make life affordable for the masses it will continue to go through upheaval again and again.
    11/hr with a rent of 1600/month is just not sustainable.
    700 sq ft cape cod for 300k is not doable.
    4000/ per month for a biologic is criminal.
    500 for an epi pen is morally reprehensible.

  238. Juice Box says:

    re: “They could put a corpse up against Trump and still have a good shot at winning.”

    You might get your wish if the Rona gets a hold of him. He very well might kiss the wrong baby on the campaign trail.

    Oh wait he ain’t leaving his basement until the White House has been fumigated and the gold toilets removed?

    Tick Tok 73 days and allot will happen….

  239. leftwing says:

    Separately, and probably lastly for a while, two great mornings in a row. Love this weather, slept with the windows open last night. Wish i could find this exact weather 365 with some amenities. Would be there in a nano second. One of those days that just make it great to be alive. G’day All.

  240. Juice Box says:

    Weather has been very very nice even for my 6 am dog walks and my late night swims. As I mentioned yesterday it was absolutely a great evening in downtown Red Bank, peak activity back again not a parking spot to be found not and empty table young and old alike enjoying the weather and with all the outdoor dining and socializing it is almost like we are back to normal.

    BUT WE ARE NOT……

  241. Juice Box says:

    NOT GOING BACK TO NORMAL THIS YEAR, close up shop and reopen next spring already…….

    More than 100 school districts across state have told staff, students and parents they are seeking to postpone in-person classes for students when the school year gets underway.

    https://www.nj.com/education/2020/08/latest-list-of-nj-school-districts-planning-all-remote-reopening-grows-bigger-aug-21-2020.html

  242. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    August 20, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    “I’ll take millions of preborn babies murdered humanely…”

    This is the kind of compromise with logic, reason and principle that’s required in order to be a modern day Dem.

    ‘murder is terrible, unless it involves an unborn child…’
    ‘biology doesn’t determine sex/gender, you are whatever you say you are…’
    ‘Trump caused the violence in Portland, doesn’t matter that the fed courthouse had been trashed for weeks prior to troops being sent in…’
    ‘Donald Trump = bad, Michael Avenatti = good’

  243. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Old school democrats finally get it. Win win for all Americans in this next election. Doesn’t matter who wins, both seem to want the same thing.

    grim says:
    August 21, 2020 at 5:56 am
    Good show by ol’ Joe.

    Surprised at how many Republican talking points he took. PPE to be made in the USA. Strong promise of national defense. Self reliance. Rebuilding and investing infrastructure. Bringing back millions of American manufacturing jobs. God. Moms. Soldiers. and the American dream.

    Stick a fork in it.

  244. Libturd says:

    Leftwing,

    Tourney cancelled and we dropped out of EJ. I think EJ is not happening this year and rightfully so.

    Hockey will continue to be a sh1tshow for a while. I feel terrible for my son. He worked full time this Summer (at 15) and now has enough saved for his first beater. He also completed all the work necessary to be a level 3 ref, which is a pretty solid feat for a 15 year old. He was so looking forward to ice hockey this year as his high school coach completely fukced him (and himself in the process). Now that he can finally shine, there is no hockey. He may be the only male student in his school to wear his mask and physically separate properly. He also swung high honors.

    He just can’t catch a break and he is so deserving of one.

  245. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Politics came around. He strategically came out with the “wall” and anti-immigration talk. That’s prob what happened. I don’t think he is racist, but he took up positions that allowed him to be called one. Politics is a dirty game.

    “2015 he announces a run for POTUS and instantly he becomes a monster racist?

    You guys truly believe that? Has it never occurred to you that Trump is the same guy he has been for his whole life? Maybe the left is just playing you for a giant fool?”

  246. homeboken says:

    Related, RXR, SLG trying to “guilt trip” NYC employers to return to the office.

    Facing empty office buildings for months on end, New York City landlords are trying to cajole the city’s biggest companies into sending workers back to their desks. “I’ve been really pushing the CEOs to bring people back into the office,” Related Cos. CEO Jeff Blau told Bloomberg. “I’ve been using a little bit of guilt trip and a little bit of coaxing.” Blau, along with RXR Realty CEO Scott Rechler, Rudin Management CEO Bill Rudin and SL Green CEO Marc Holliday, are ringing the heads of companies, telling them it is their duty to reopen offices or New York City will slide into “decay,” Bloomberg reports. The real estate honchos have been targeting Goldman Sachs, Blackstone and BlackRock, along with law firms and tech giants like Microsoft.

    Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/new-york/news/office/related-rxr-sl-green-try-to-guilt-trip-employers-to-return-to-office-105682?utm_source=outbound_pub_5&utm_campaign=outbound_issue_41319&utm_content=outbound_link_1&utm_medium=email?utm_source=CopyShare&utm_medium=Browser

    https://www.bisnow.com/new-york/news/office/related-rxr-sl-green-try-to-guilt-trip-employers-to-return-to-office-105682?utm_source=outbound_pub_5&utm_campaign=outbound_issue_41319&utm_content=outbound_link_1&utm_medium=email

  247. Juice Box says:

    Post Office spin in full force. Mail sorting machines have nothing to do with package delivery volumes being through the roof with all carriers.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-20/usps-cutbacks-post-office-chaos

    Dejoy testifying now in the Senate.

    “DeJoy says he has not spoken to the president about the postal service”

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-20/usps-cutbacks-post-office-chaos

  248. Libturd says:

    I think the USPS is a narrative and nothing more likely than a pissing dossier.

  249. Juice Box says:

    Senate hearing on Postal Service is another s*hit show, one Senator saying the F-Bomb 3 times on the video call.

    Now we got this nonsense about m*e*ds. I can’t get my p*i*lls! I have to cut my pi*l*ls in half! I ordered last week and it’s not here yet!

    90 day pres*cripti*ons are the norm for seniors they usually ship well in advance.

  250. homeboken says:

    This is a direct correlation to the flight from urban areas:

    July Home Sales Spike a record 24.7% in July.

    Sales of existing homes soared 24.7% in July compared with June, according to the National Association of Realtors.

    The supply of existing homes plummeted 21.1% annually, with just 1.5 million homes for sale at the end of July.

    The median price of a home sold in July rose 8.5% annually to $304,100.

  251. NJCoast says:

    Juice- Not back to normal in Red Bank as the Count Basie Theatre remains shuttered. The $28 million addition (paid for by donations) sits empty. I don’t know when I’ll be able to use the new kitchen there. We thought we’d be closing for a month or two back in March. Some lesser acts have been moved to the Blue Grotto at Monmouth Park an outside venue. All is well except when the skies opened up and had people scrambling for their cars while the Eagles Tribute Band played Peaceful Easy Feeling.

  252. Juice Box says:

    Even if everyone that votes about 150 million people all voted by mail and mailed those ballots on the same exact day it would not even come anywhere near what the USPS capacity is capable of.

    It packages that are the problem not mail….F-king baloney….

  253. NJCoast says:

    The superintendent of Long Branch schools is requiring the teachers to report to their empty classrooms to conduct their remote teaching.

  254. Juice Box says:

    Coast – My brother is a musician, has not played a gig since March. I am glad he has a day job doing solar, but is extremely bored because attending concerts and shows is his life. He has been attending some outdoors stuff in New Brunswick, was gushing over Chelsea Handler’s show the other day.

    Outdoor venues Stress Factory or Monmouth Racetrack are trying but they won’t work past December, it’s going to get very boring around here with nothing to do.

    https://www.dead-frog.com/live-comedy/shows/07701/25

  255. ExEssex says:

    10:29 I go into an empty classroom 3x a week.
    I like it actually. I use their broadband and get out of the house for a while.

  256. Juice Box says:

    Realtor advert in the junk mail today from Sotheby’s for a 4 br house they sold in my neighborhood looks like it went for about 12% more than what it would have sold for pre-pandemic.

    Tag line that kept me from dropping it in the garbage can.

    “We are currently experiencing an influx of buyers from urban areas creating a seller’s market with record-low interest rates”

  257. Juice Box says:

    Essex – you and the other teachers can spark up at lunch time with no kids around.

  258. grim says:

    Not a bad time for a NJ teacher to take an early retirement and get the f*ck out of here with a nice nest egg.

  259. 3b says:

    Home He can guilt all he wants, but people are not going back anytime soon, for us it’s not even a topic of conversation any more. And when they do go back it will be in a radically different format. Train station in my town empty again this morning.

  260. ExEssex says:

    My ideal timeline would have had me leaving NJ about now.
    I think we did OK. But we never reached the highs of the prior run up
    in real estate. In other words, I could have sold for at least $50k more 6 months after I bought the house, than 15 years later and $175k worth of upgrades.

  261. homeboken says:

    3b – I agree – My office is opening in various smaller cities, at significantly reduced capacity on Oct 1, which will be pushed back further with very little discussion.

    The NYC office is not going back until Jan 2021, earliest. The landlord can call, guilt, cajole all they like. But if the rent payment shows up on time and in full, Blau can go pound sand.

    It will start to quickly turn course, where corporate tenants realize that Blau has just signaled a fear of weakness. A smart NYC tenant, that believes that NYC will bounce back, would be very smart to approach their landlord with an offer – Renegotiate my lease, add a few years to the term, drop the rent by 20/25% and I will force my employees back to the office by date X.

    Heartless – yes. Likely to occur – also yes.

  262. The Great Pumpkin says:

    True story. People that actually get it. Unless you want to destroy America…offices in the city are not going away. The economy lives off the hyper interaction provided by the city to drive national economic growth. Take that away, and goodbye economy. Won’t be anywhere you can hide as it will set off a deflationary hell on earth.

    “Blau, along with RXR Realty CEO Scott Rechler, Rudin Management CEO Bill Rudin and SL Green CEO Marc Holliday, are ringing the heads of companies, telling them it is their duty to reopen offices or New York City will slide into “decay,” Bloomberg reports.”

  263. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And then 3b can celebrate cheap housing as the economy is in broken pieces.

  264. The Great Pumpkin says:

    He can also celebrate WFH when he doesn’t have a job. But hey guys, I get to save money by being home all day.

    You fool, those savings are a cost, they are sucking the growth out of the economy. People staying home and not spending money is not a good thing for economic growth. Understand this, and understand it well.

  265. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The superintendent of Long Branch schools is requiring the teachers to report to their empty classrooms to conduct their remote teaching.

    On remote days or shutdowns, we are allowed to work from home. We were told that in the event of a shutdown, we can enter the building and are welcome to bring our children inside as well. If they are offering something similar, I see no issue with that policy.

  266. 3b says:

    Pumps : would you please STFU and stop opining on topics you don’t know about. You do not and have never worked in corporate America and you have no experience with how corporate America has evolved over the last 30 years like many of us here have. Repeatedly, you have been told that corporate America has been geographically dispersing prior to the pandemic, but you ignore it. WFH, is part of that evolutionary process. And can you comment on that hyper activity generated by the city? Of course not, you don’t work in corporate America.

    You as a school teacher should not care about WFH as it does not impact you, but we all know that it is does as it terrifies you it will negatively impact the vale of your high house, and your wife the primary breadwinner is in commercial real estate. So some dip shit school teacher is screaming that we all need to go back to city offices to ensure your standard of living. You don’t care about the positive quality of life improvement WFH will have for thousands of people across the country. You don’t care about the crappy commutes , and all the rest. You are home at 3:00, have summers off, week at Xmas, winter break, spring break Jewish holidays and all the rest. But keep on screaming about we need to go back to the city to ensure your financial security.

  267. AP says:

    I highly recommend this article I found from American Affairs.

    It has everything folks on this board like to discuss… Working at Goldman in the 2000s, earning admission to Ivy League schools, difference between Chinese and American/British education, “sensitivity training”, the American Dream and even a sidebar about Costco never hiring MBAs

    https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017/11/western-elite-chinese-perspective

    “Puzhong Yao is the director of a private investment vehicle. He graduated with first class honors from Trinity College, University of Cambridge, and received an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Previously, he worked at Goldman Sachs and Capula Investment Management.”

  268. 3b says:

    Home:,I agree. From everyone I have spoken to in various fields in corporate America WFH is working, albeit with concerns about when the schools will open. Also all of their companies are adding WFH as part of their employment offers or expanding already existing WFH policies. When I go back my team will be in 4 offices , only one in NYC. So we will be zooming, e-mail, Microsoft teams etc. so no real difference be in office or WFH. The cost savings to companies on office space is huge. As for NYC they priced themselves out of the market, the obscene costs, the property taxes, and regulations, the costs of unions to do construction work. Throw in crappy infrastructure, and now the riots, and more companies are realizing they have alternatives, and WFH is a big one.

  269. Juice Box says:

    The unreality of the DNC show with Crackhead Hunter and Chief Pocahontas along with the Supremo Cigar Diddler and Epstein chum gets extended next week.

    Guess who is (still!) on RNC’s schedule to speak on Tuesday?

    Steve Bannon

  270. Juice Box says:

    back to Manhattanhousing.

    from the WSJ

    56% fewer sales in Manhattan between 3/23 and 8/16 compared to last year
    30 months supply of Luxury Homes at current absorption rate
    11.3% average discount on homes sold

  271. Juice Box says:

    The once thought extinct squeegeeman is making a comeback in the wild.

    https://twitter.com/realsamwell/status/1296602471352147969/photo/1

    Next up will be next is the prostitutes walking in broad daylight by the Javitz.

  272. Phoenix says:

    “The once thought extinct squeegeeman is making a comeback in the wild.”

    All the politicians talk about are jobs, jobs, jobs. More minimum wage jobs.

    Except even those are disappearing.

  273. Phoenix says:

    “Luxury homes.”
    Tack on another 100k for fake crown moulding, but still get forced hot air for heat.

    Postage stamp property on side of hill that even a goat can’t climb

    Pay luxury price. Pay maximum taxes.

    Builder profits.

  274. 3b says:

    Juice: I remember all over the exits from the west side highway. Pay us to wash your windshield with filthy water or off comes your wiper! And all those silly little blow in New Yorkers who ask was it really that bad?? Yes it was!! Now you can witness for yourselves!!

  275. 3b says:

    Phoenix One just sold in my town 800k no backyard. Cheap sliding glass doors out to a small 3 plank landing; might get a BBQ to fit, and that’s it. And with 17k a year in property taxes.

  276. NJCoast says:

    BRT- Long Branch schools are not opening to students at all, classes are all remote. They are not allowing the teachers to work from home. They’re requiring them to work the same hours at school as if the kids were there. This is after spending $860,000 on masks, thermometers, hand sanitizers, decals and signage about social distancing. Superintendent wanted the schools to open and the teachers voted against opening when polled.

  277. Walkin says:

    NJ Coast, Im hearing teachers are having issues with how to handle non compliant kids in these special districts. Teachers are scared governor pandering Murphy will throw them under the bus once the video emerges and the peaceful protesters demand the head of the teacher while torching said teachers home. If you dont have a clear set of rules for what to do with a kid who takes off his mask and becomes confrontational, they dont want to be there.

  278. NJCoast says:

    In real estate news. House about 1 mile from the beach. Listed 7/22 for $449,500. Closed sale 8/17 for $501,000. House is a tear down.

  279. homeboken says:

    NJCoast – I love that Long Branch is doing that. LOVE IT.

    Teacher claims that in person teaching equals certain COVID death. OK no problem. Kids stay home.

    Sally McUnion – you know must teach remotely from the safety of your empty classroom.

    That’s how you call a bluff on a teacher who’s real agenda was being able to teach from the deep moist divot on her couch.

  280. Phoenix says:

    Now Sally McDivot has a problem on her hands. Her daughter is at home alone waiting to be taught by KarenMcUnion.

    Now they have access to her liquor cabinet, pool, and dad’s Corvette.

    Classmate Billy McOfficer is bringing over his Chromebook to study with her.

  281. homeboken says:

    Now the teachers in Long Branch will face the same problems the rest of the world is facing.

    Who is gonna watch my kids while I go to work? I can’t afford extra child-care expenses? This isn’t fair…

    Here’s an idea – Open up the schools – Problem solved.

    Real dilemma these teachers have created for themselves. Turns out, giving one profession as special consideration (ie teach from home) comes only at a cost to someone else.

    Action-Reaction, Cause & Effect.

  282. Phoenix says:

    3b,

    The marketing is so good it’s almost better than DeBeers. Now the entrance fee is a diamond and a NJ crap shack for 800k with a 17k tax bill.
    You will buy it if you love me.

    “The secret to De Beers’ success is a marketing campaign that has permeated our culture –convincing every woman that she should receive a diamond ring from her fiancé and convincing each groom-to-be to pay “two-months salary” for that ring to show how much his love is worth.”

    https://bit.ly/3gjp0gE

  283. Phoenix says:

    I did not choose the word “permeated” but whoever did hit the nail on the head.

  284. homeboken says:

    The Long Branch model is my new position on virtual learning.

    School closing b/c teachers aren’t comfortable. No problem.

    Kids stay home. Teacher instructs from the class room, with school equipment, every day, normal hours.

    Teacher have kids of your own to worry about? Not my problem, figure it out. Maybe talk to your kids school district about opening up in full. Otherwise, cry me a river that you have to do your job, at your job’s location.

  285. D-FENS says:

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-party-voter-registration-trump-biden-20200729.html

    It’s not 2016 anymore.

    President Donald Trump and Joe Biden aren’t competing for the same composition of voters who won Trump the state four years ago. And despite Trump’s eroded political standing at the moment, at least in terms of which voters are joining which party, there’s good news for the GOP: Registration shifts across the state show Republicans gaining voters at five times the rate of Democrats.

  286. ExEssex says:

    11:28 mmmmm k.

    Bannon does have lustrous hair.

  287. D-FENS says:

    the post office narrative is just Democrats hedging their bets. If they lose, they can claim that we shouldn’t trust the results of the election cuz Drumpf kill postal service on purpose!!!! Make Democrats lose!

    The reality is it was filled with corruption, theft, and a shrinking government service anyhow.

  288. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are a tool. I have to work in corporate America to understand the economy. STFU.

    Who was the jackass calling me idiot the past 7 years when I said to buy in north jersey while the prices were low? Who?! I said you were wrong then, and was correct. I am calling your position again as DEAD WRONG. Double down you fool, let’s go.

    3b says:
    August 21, 2020 at 11:15 am
    Pumps : would you please STFU and stop opining on topics you don’t know about. You do not and have never worked in corporate America and you have no experience with how corporate America has evolved over the last 30 years like many of us here have. Repeatedly, you have been told that corporate America has been geographically dispersing prior to the pandemic, but you ignore it. WFH, is part of that evolutionary process. And can you comment on that hyper activity generated by the city? Of course not, you don’t work in corporate America.

    You as a school teacher should not care about WFH as it does not impact you, but we all know that it is does as it terrifies you it will negatively impact the vale of your high house, and your wife the primary breadwinner is in commercial real estate. So some dip shit school teacher is screaming that we all need to go back to city offices to ensure your standard of living. You don’t care about the positive quality of life improvement WFH will have for thousands of people across the country. You don’t care about the crappy commutes , and all the rest. You are home at 3:00, have summers off, week at Xmas, winter break, spring break Jewish holidays and all the rest. But keep on screaming about we need to go back to the city to ensure your financial security.

  289. D-FENS says:

    What’s absurd is Bannon was arrested by the postal service.

  290. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You must talking to the wrong people.

    Have you ever bought low and sold high? I don’t think you are capable of doing that. This whole paragraph is pure bs, some wild fantasy.

    3b says:
    August 21, 2020 at 11:27 am
    Home:,I agree. From everyone I have spoken to in various fields in corporate America WFH is working, albeit with concerns about when the schools will open. Also all of their companies are adding WFH as part of their employment offers or expanding already existing WFH policies. When I go back my team will be in 4 offices , only one in NYC. So we will be zooming, e-mail, Microsoft teams etc. so no real difference be in office or WFH. The cost savings to companies on office space is huge. As for NYC they priced themselves out of the market, the obscene costs, the property taxes, and regulations, the costs of unions to do construction work. Throw in crappy infrastructure, and now the riots, and more companies are realizing they have alternatives, and WFH is a big one.

  291. D-FENS says:

    N.J. diner defies Murphy again, reopens for indoor business after cops change locks

    https://www.nj.com/ocean/2020/08/nj-diner-defies-murphy-again-reopens-for-indoor-business-after-cops-change-locks.html

    At around 4:30 a.m. Friday, the Brindisis got a call from their alarm company notifying them that all three of the diner’s doors had been broken into, said Brindisi. When Debbie and Brian Brindisi arrived, they found a small crowd awaiting them, she said.

    “We came down here,” Brindisi told NJ Advance Media in a phone call from the diner. “The (Ocean County) sheriff’s department was here. A locksmith was here. Lacey Township police were here. They were changing the locks.

    “You would think that they wouldn’t because they’re trespassing,” added Brindisi. “But I guess because it was an executive order from our wonderful governor. They didn’t want to do it. But they’re doing their jobs as well.”

    While the locks were being changed, Brian Brindisi managed to get inside and refused to leave, said Debbie Brindisi. And at 7 a.m., the diner opened for business, with plenty of diners sitting outside and inside for the breakfast rush, she said.

    Since June, the Lakeside Diner has allowed indoor dining in defiance of a state executive order, with owners saying that they needed to allow some indoor tables to stay afloat financially. The diner allowed limited indoor dining when outdoor tables were fully booked, but they were taking safety precautions, Brian Brindisi previously told Patch.

  292. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Again to you understand that those savings from WFH become a huge cost to economic growth. Yes, let’s shut down cities, and construction; drop the price of real estate while drastically lowering labor costs that will be diverted to profit. You think the economy grow under this? Are you that naive?

  293. Joe Black says:

    Many here will be shocked, again, when President Trump easily wins in November.

    Turn off CNN for a minute, and consider the following critical issues that have been damaging the country for decades, and which are not even on Biden’s radar.

    1) Border security.

    2) Fixing trade agreements.

    3) Returning jobs and factories to America.

    These are not fringe issues. When you start believing the cartoon character portrayed by “journalists” and ignoring Trump’s actual policies and accomplishments, you are merely pacifying yourself and ignoring reality.

  294. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hey, raze the cities. Make way for single family homes with swimming pools. WFH proponents are telling us that cities are dead. Let’s get rid of them. Skyscrapers, who needs that?!

  295. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    Don’t worry. The vaccinated Chinese will buy into NY when the price drops to where they like it.

  296. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Someone will, someone always does. Never bet against New York long term. Short term, go for it, but don’t make that long term bet.

    Phoenix says:
    August 21, 2020 at 2:01 pm
    Pumps,
    Don’t worry. The vaccinated Chinese will buy into NY when the price drops to where they like it.

  297. ExEssex says:

    1:49 I don’t think we’d be “shocked” about anything. Strange events are daily now.
    I saw Trump winning in 2016. I don’t see it happening again. That simple.

  298. ExEssex says:

    Each of these areas is actually worse under Trump:

    1) Border security.

    2) Fixing trade agreements.

    3) Returning jobs and factories to America.

    Way way worse. OK. So your man had three years to work on this stuff.
    He tried his way. It was Uuuuugly and cost us so much equity and time that we will spend a decade rebuilding as a result. That is a fact.

    If you want to see a further dismantling of institutions designed to make our Country better than that is your choice. Me, I’m going for Joe.

  299. Joe Black says:

    Delusional.

    There are 300 miles of new border wall, and the remaining miles are 100% funded.

    The horrendogus NAFTA trade agreement is now gone.

    American manufacturing is rising after decades of decline.

    Again, you pacify yourself with echo chamber delusions, and ignore reality.

  300. Libturd says:

    Joe Black, you are the one who is delusional. He straight up LOST to China. I give him props to ending NAFTA, but it still won’t stop us from buying other people’s shift. It just won’t be as easy enriching the filthy rich American who set up shop expat. Don’t kid yourself in the increase of American Manufacturing either. More new unemployment claims were filed this morning than manufacturing jobs created in the last 3 years at a ratio of 2:1. Plus, the current pace of additional manufacturing was the same when Hussein left office then what it was before Covid slowed it down. Decades if decline. You are truly a moron! You are truly a fool for listening to the worst president ever. The WORST. EVER! How do the deplorable’s like his handling of Covid?

    Trump couldn’t shine Obama’s shoes. Nor can he even see his own these days.

    Headed down to the Outer Banks. I’ll count the Trump signs now compared to 2016.

  301. D-FENS says:

    Trump’s China policy alone is enough for me.

    The Goodyear thing just makes Goodyear look stupid. Any company thinking about opening a net new factory in China should be made to feel it is way too much of a risk to manufacture there going forward. Make your sh1t anywhere but there.

  302. D-FENS says:

    Nobody’s mind is changed from 2016…absofcukinglutely nobodys.

  303. ExEssex says:

    In the second quarter, the number of luxury co-op and condo closings in Manhattan was down 54 percent from last year, and the median sales price was down 11 percent, according to Miller Samuel. Total closings remained down for the quarter at dramatically lower rates than in the months following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and the 2008 collapse of Lehman Brothers, the data shows. It comes on top of an already soft luxury market in recent years, with many of the ultra-wealthy reconsidering residency in New York over tax concerns, but the latest blow has some desperate sellers slashing prices even further.

  304. D-FENS says:

    The Chinese Government is an enemy. From the Virus, to Fentanyl, to theft of intellectual property etc. Any company that starts net new manufacturing there is nuts.

  305. Juice Box says:

    perfect beach day in Lavallette nice breeze blowing north creating some nice wave action for boogie boarding and few Bennies.

  306. Phoenix says:

    “Make your sh1t anywhere but there.”
    No, make your sh1t here.

    Be a patriot.

  307. Phoenix says:

    ‘Take the damn call,’ Murphy urges as contact tracers continue to hit brick wall.

    Well maybe if this American Government would have convicted telemarketers we would not be screening calls all day long.

    But you chose the corporate sales people over the public. Go # salt.

  308. Juice Box says:

    Governor is wacist too, the new name should have been freeloader , it’s much more appropriate to the work done.

    Nice job on the performative virtue signal Governor Murphy

    https://www.nj.com/politics/2020/08/freeholders-no-more-murphy-says-hell-sign-bill-ending-county-title-criticized-as-racist.html

  309. 3b says:

    Pumps: You are a jackass and a liar. And I talk to people from all walks of corporate life. As for your calls, did you predict Covid 19?? What a freaking simpleton!

    Like I said it terrifies you that WFH will negatively impact your highway house and your standard of living, as you are not the primary bread winner.

    You can post all the anti WFH articles, just stop trolling me and referencing me in them. It’s not my mind or anyone else’s on the blog it’s to make you feel better. So again post all you want just leave me out of them. It’s a simple request that even a simpleton should be able to understand.

  310. 3b says:

    Lori Louglin gets 2 months and her husband 5. God Bless America!! This country truly has become a joke!!

  311. Joe Black says:

    What is Biden’s strategy for the following key issues, so people can compare and contrast. Hint: Biden voted for NAFTA.

    1) Border security.

    2) Fixing trade agreements.

    3) Returning jobs and factories to America.

  312. ExEssex says:

    4:17 two- months is plenty of time to turn to a prison wife.

  313. Phoenix says:

    3b
    How much time did you expect her to get- this one only got 31 months-then collected life insurance on his corpse.

    A woman accused of killing her fiancé by tampering with his kayak and then leaving him to drown in the cold and choppy waters of the Hudson River pleaded guilty on Monday to a reduced charge of criminally negligent homicide.

    The case drew attention far beyond the area just north of New York City where the death occurred, as prosecutors described how a seemingly doting partner desperately called 911 for help after her fiancé disappeared only to tell investigators later that it “felt good knowing he was going to die.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/nyregion/angelika-graswald-kayak-vincent-viafore.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/nyregion/kayak-drowning-insurance-graswald.html

  314. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Hey Murph! Send em a text!

  315. Phoenix says:

    “When women who look like Graswald are charged with murder, they become celebrities. In 2011, over 5 million people watched live on Nancy Grace as Casey Anthony was found not guilty in the murder of her two-year-old daughter, Caylee. In 2013, 8.5 million tuned in to Amanda Knox’s first televised interview, with ABC’s Diane Sawyer, after her 2009 conviction for the murder of her roommate Meredith Kercher was overturned in 2011.”

    I’m surprised Loughlin did one minute in jail.

  316. Phoenix says:

    “Some food for thought: the U.S. had as many people working in the manufacturing sector in December as it did 69 years ago.”

    “In the six decades from 1950 to 2010, the U.S. population had increased from 157.8 million to 312.2 million”

    So we are down roughly 50% give or take. Sounds great.

  317. Phoenix says:

    The White House is formally declaring teachers essential workers as part of their efforts to encourage schools around the country to reopen for in-person learning. The move is just the latest in the administration’s aggressive campaign to pressure districts into bringing back students this fall — and although the essential worker designation provides guidance for educators that is only voluntary, it calls on teachers to return to the classroom even after potential exposure.

  318. 3b says:

    Pboenix Fair point. I forgot about the kayak one. That was so incredibly disturbing. Absolutely no remorse, on her part. Lori will do the talk show circuit, and write a book about the horrors of her 2 year sentence, and how thoughts of her family kept her going.

  319. Walking says:

    3b you do realize you can’t sink a kayak by removing a drain plug? Seems like keeping someone questioned for over 18 hours to confess without an interagator and they will say anything. I think she took the deal as it was easier to move on.

  320. Walking says:

    Interagator = translator , I may have had a few glasses of wine tonight

  321. No One says:

    AOC resonates with young people like Che shirts.
    She is the would-be leader of America’s Red Guard. If she resonates, it’s proof that America’s education system is failing. Agreeing with her economic and social justice theories is as wrong and dangerous as creationist “science” or a flat-earth.

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