C19 Open Discussion Week 24c

From the Jersey Journal:

Hudson County real estate market thrives as NYC couples, families, continue migrating for more value

For years, Hudson County real estate has enticed scores of New Yorkers to ditch the Big Apple in favor of more space and lower rents without sacrificing city access.

The coronavirus pandemic seems to be accelerating those migrations.

As New York City real estate suffers amid the pandemic, with vacancy rates spiking and rents falling, Hudson County’s market has continued to flourish, industry professionals say. In recent months it’s proven to be a haven for both renters and prospective buyers who are working from home and looking to spread out.

Average rent in Jersey City during April, May and June was up by 0.2% from the same time last year, according to Apartment Guide’s mid-year rent report. Meanwhile, in Manhattan, average rent was down about 6% between July 2020 and July 2019, according to the Douglas Elliman real estate company, signalling less demand for rentals. That difference grew to 10% when landlord concessions were included.

“There’s a certain appeal to not being in Manhattan and saving the money and being near transportation,” said Jonathan Kushner, president of Kushner Real Estate Group. “We’re very definitely seeing some tenants saying, ‘I don’t want to be in Manhattan right now with everything going on … we feel safer here. There’s more space.’”

About 40% of renters who move into brand new buildings in Hudson County are relocating from Manhattan, Kushner said, adding that his firm has seen a slight uptick in that percentage during the pandemic.

This entry was posted in General. Bookmark the permalink.

163 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 24c

  1. ExEssex says:

    iTs tRumPs hOuse nOw

  2. homeboken says:

    Good boy Ex – you picked up on your brainwashing talking points. All this unrest is Trump’s fault, you and the other morons will switch off the violence if we all just vote the right way.

  3. homeboken says:

    I don’t understand.

    The media tells me that these protests are “mostly” peaceful. Even if there are massive structure fires blazing behind the talking head telling me.

    If they are peaceful, then why am I worried that these protests are Trump’s fault?

    Are they peaceful or riots?

    It’s

  4. leftwing says:

    “BREAKING: Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged in Wisconsin.”

    Yeah Dink, my bad on the phraseology, meant found guilty not charged. He was always going to be charged with homicide. If not, Kenosha along with several other cities would have been set aflame by the ‘protestors’.

    JCer elaborated on my bullet point more eloquently…original reports made it sound like the kid basically assassinated someone on the first shooting. The Times timeline adds color and if accurate indicates he was being chased potentially with shots fired.

    The second shooting I don’t even see any controversy there…he was down, already assaulted, and being attacked by a man with a skateboard and another with a handgun. Forget my opinion, try to find a jury in that part of the country to convict on that set of facts and video.

    As an aside this kid had some training. His ability to fire a long gun judiciously in that confined a space with accuracy while down is impressive. This wasn’t some gangbanger randomly spraying a crowd.

  5. Phoenix says:

    Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and his wife were attacked by a mob at the White House.

    Are there any normal mornings anymore?

  6. joyce says:

    Are they still monitoring sewers?

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/8/20-0681_article
    Abstract
    Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 was isolated from feces of a patient in China with coronavirus disease who died. Confirmation of infectious virus in feces affirms the potential for fecal–oral or fecal–respiratory transmission and warrants further study.

  7. unome says:

    “Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and his wife were attacked by a mob at the White House.”

    Bring it on. Let’s see those peaceful protestors take someone out. Ideally a Midwest right-moderate. Swing those States!

  8. joyce says:

    53,469,300 people had contact with the police in the latest year I could find data. It mentions the number of people who had multiple contacts (18.4%) but not how many above 1. So while I cannot say the total number of police contacts in a year, we know it’s a lot higher than 53 million.
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp15.pdf

    70,000 / 53,000,000 = 0.1320% (and this is an overestimate)

    JCer says:
    August 28, 2020 at 1:39 am

    Joyce being being killed on the job isn’t the only concern, police officers make approximately 70k visits to emergency rooms for injuries on the job every year. 36% of those are a result of violent acts, sometimes the injuries are VERY serious. If you attack a police officer you will be hurt at the minimum if not killed, that is the reality, given the kind of work it is and how officers are compensated there are practical factors at work, people are not exactly kicking down doors to be police in dangerous cities………..

  9. Phoenix says:

    DNA evidence sat there for 37 years. No one thought to check it. Of course, once a cop thinks your guilty, he will get a criminal to convict you with a lie. Too bad they don’t work so hard to find out who is innocent.

    “Experts proved the mark wasn’t from a bite, and the jailhouse informant was not credible.”

    “She found that much of the physical evidence in the case had been destroyed. But she was able to track down rape kit evidence at the county medical examiner’s office and process that for DNA.

    Within a week, that evidence excluded DuBoise.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8673313/Man-spent-37-years-jail-rape-murder-walks-free-DNA-evidence-cleared-him.html

  10. Phoenix says:

    “She called the police and claimed we were waving a gun at her.”

    Jcer, did you wave a gun at her? Why would she say that if it’s not true?
    Was it possible that she was hoping you would get shot? She go to jail for that allegation?

    I wonder how many police calls are received with claims that the so called “perpetrator” is armed in order to possibly cause intentional harm to someone they just don’t like.

  11. ExEssex says:

    lOoK wHaT jOe BiDen dId tO oUr CoUntRy

    oNly I cAn fIx tHiS…….

    Gaslighter in Chief TrUmp

  12. ExEssex says:

    You folks realize Trump is the incumbent right?

  13. nobody says:

    Have to say Pumps was right and the other’s piling up on him are licking the wounds.

    Bidding, over list, hours on market.. Those home owners who are close to Manhattan with easy commute will be big winners because they have both ways.

    The market ~45 minute radius is super hot and once COVID dies, all the people who bough in rural areas will flock to suburbs..

    I expect NNJ prices to be atleast 10% higher next year and continue to grow or won’t fall..

    BUY now OR lose for ever folks..

    Sorry, Pumps was right. By luck that is..

  14. SmallGovConservative says:

    ExEssex says:
    August 28, 2020 at 10:14 am
    lOoK wHaT jOe BiDen dId tO oUr CoUntRy

    Joe’s been in DC for ~50 years, including 8 in which he aided and abetted Obama in undoing the progress that had been made in race relations. Joe is indeed one of the culprits.

  15. Juice Box says:

    Jcer – so I was right parkway PoPo etc, but did you have A Kenny G CD back then?

  16. ExEssex says:

    jOe bIdeN hAs RuN tHiS CoUnTrY fOr fIfTy
    YEaRs – tRuMp & Q cAn sAvE uS……!!!!

  17. homeboken says:

    VA legislature passes bill 5032 – To paraphrase – Assault on a police officer will be classified as a misdemeanor.

    I know there is a strong anti-police sentiment on this board – perhaps it is justified, perhaps it is not.

    Put the morality of the decision aside – If you are a VA resident, do you feel safer with this new law? Do you think you will get better quality police work?

  18. ExEssex says:

    iM nOt sUrE i’lL aCcEpT tHe oUtComE oF tHe
    ELecTiOn…..tWuMp

  19. ExEssex says:

    11:10 yeah we all give a huuuuge shit.
    There’s nothing more important to my feelin of safety than what the Virgina state legislature is doing. Eye roll.

  20. Juice Box says:

    homeboken – in NJ the law NJ is AGGRAVATED ASSAULT ON POLICE OFFICER LAW 2C:12-1B(5)

    It includes teachers, bus drivers and the cable guy.

    Don’t mess with the cable guy..

  21. ExEssex says:

    Police don’t actually stop crime. How could they? They are late comers and paper pushers. They are also biased, angry, often drunk, in other words they are human.
    When they form shitty organizations in places they serve and they aren’t able to respond appropriately they need to be disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up.
    FWIW it supposably although I cannot confirm this did well in Camden.

  22. Fabius Maximus says:

    Every time I hear the Just Comply argument I think of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhAZlj1xRLo
    For a comedy, it nailed the reality.

  23. joyce says:

    https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter4/section18.2-57/
    It sounds like they are just removing subsection C which makes the penalties for assault the same no matter if it’s a costume wearer or just a regular person.

    I would feel safer and do not think the quality will diminish (can’t get much worse).

    homeboken says:
    August 28, 2020 at 11:10 am
    VA legislature passes bill 5032 – To paraphrase – Assault on a police officer will be classified as a misdemeanor.

    I know there is a strong anti-police sentiment on this board – perhaps it is justified, perhaps it is not.

    Put the morality of the decision aside – If you are a VA resident, do you feel safer with this new law? Do you think you will get better quality police work?

  24. Juice Box says:

    re: “Just Comply argument”

    It’s probably best not to get your legal advice from tweets by Anarchists and Marxists.

    It’s not an “argument” the highest courts in the land has stated you must comply or be arrested. Resisting arrest, even one you believe think to be to wrong, risks provoking a violent retaliation from the police. The police truly do believe it is in their power to do so and is 100% legal, the courts have ruled time and time again you must comply, and the legislatures have diluted any ability to resist with mountains of new laws.

  25. joyce says:

    Juice Box,
    It’s worse than that. Many jurisdictions have passed laws that even if it is proven in a court of law later on that the initial reasons for the stop/detainment/arrest were b.s. … you can still be convicted of resisting.

  26. chicagofinance says:

    “For a comedy, it nailed the reality.”
    It is exaggerated stereotypes in a piece of fiction, and you hold it out as some kind of documentary. You embarrass yourself repeatedly, but you are so hopelessly mired in an echo chamber that you are inured to any kind of refutation with common sense.

    It is interesting……. I went into several other types of public posting forums, and I can understand you incredulity. You post stuff here that would receive kudos from various limousine liberals and thought control advocates, but all of us here don’t reflexively genuflect at your woke eminence. As I’ve stated repeatedly, your function here is nothing but a troll. Your intellectual dishonesty is as chronic as it is complete.

    You accuse me of hatred, when in fact every time you read commentary here, and post anything, it is a pure act of belligerence with intent to irritate.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 28, 2020 at 11:29 am
    Every time I hear the Just Comply argument I think of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhAZlj1xRLo
    For a comedy, it nailed the reality.

  27. SmallGovConservative says:

    homeboken says:
    August 28, 2020 at 11:10 am
    VA legislature passes bill 5032 – To paraphrase – Assault on a police officer will be classified as a misdemeanor.

    Looks like the dopey NYC Dems are already backtracking on their anti-police initiatives in order to try to stem the rise in crime. Who could’ve known that making it harder for police to do their jobs would lead to more crime. Reasonable people certainly don’t need any more evidence that modern day Dems are unfit to goven, but they keep giving it to us anyway.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-council-bill-would-amend-police-chokehold-law-11598565199

  28. Fast Eddie says:

    Joe’s been in DC for ~50 years, including 8 in which he aided and abetted Obama in undoing the progress that had been made in race relations. Joe is indeed one of the culprits.

    Absolutely. Oblammy willingly lit the fuse. In fact, the moment he realized he won the election, his first priority was pay back in the form of racial anarchy. The dog whistle word was/is: transformation.

  29. Walking says:

    Joyce regarding checking sewage for the covid virus, Arizona State collegew as able to lock down two forms and find the students who were asymptomatic. The schools environmental lab found the virus while monitoring the sewer lines and checking for viral load. Supposedly you poop the virus out up to 7 days before getting sick and spreading to others.

    On a scary note for those living in apartments, officials in China were able to find the virus in the bathrooms of empty apartments when an occupant below was sick. The thinking is somehow the virus aerosal from waste water escaped up the shared sewar vent line and into the bathroom landing on toilets sinks. Or maybe the security guard fir the building needed to take a dump and had the keys to the place.

  30. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    ESPN all day has been saying black and brown people? I know who the black people are. Who are the brown people? Are they black? Indians? Hispanics? Indonesians? All of the above?

  31. hobojoe says:

    Average rent in Jersey City during April, May and June was up by 0.2% from the same time last year

    Yet right next door in untouchable Hoboken, apartments are sitting for months, rents reduced, and listings are even advertising concessions. Saw one yesterday for $1000 credit towards first months rent. Vastly different market from 6 months ago.

    How much of that Jersey City number is due to mix shift, now that downtown is pretty much nothing but high-rise ultra-luxury-botique-bespoke quarters?

  32. joyce says:

    Shockingly enough, the NY PBA president only a full repeal of the law will let officers operate effectively and safely. Do you agree with that?

    SmallGovConservative says:
    August 28, 2020 at 12:23 pm
    homeboken says:
    August 28, 2020 at 11:10 am

    Looks like the dopey NYC Dems are already backtracking on their anti-police initiatives in order to try to stem the rise in crime. Who could’ve known that making it harder for police to do their jobs would lead to more crime. Reasonable people certainly don’t need any more evidence that modern day Dems are unfit to goven, but they keep giving it to us anyway.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-council-bill-would-amend-police-chokehold-law-11598565199

  33. Fast Eddie says:

    Joyce,

    It was a premeditated execution based on racial bias. No calls for justice were made in the form of “peaceful” protests nor was the incident remotely reported on the liberally biased, fake news outlets. Any other questions?

  34. AP says:

    Meh, look at where the country was when the current administration began and look where it is now. It is objectively in worse shape by almost every metric.

    While no one could have predicted C19, waiting for a miracle, magical thinking, was never the right answer, and it has cost the economy dearly.

    On the other hand, look at where the country was when Obama’s administration started (global economic crisis, multiple wars, etc) and where it ended. Better in almost all metrics (despite very serious shortcomings).

    Sometimes it’s as simple as that, but alas perhaps not in this case.

    I’m going to venture an uncharacteristically pessimistic prediction, that Trump will be re-elected. The base right now is has transitioned from traditional electoral politics to full-on “dear leader” circle-the-wagons mode, and it’s hard for centrist Biden to compete with that fervor/fanaticism.

    So expect things to get worse, potentially much worse, over the next four years. Hopefully I’m wrong but I’ll hedge accordingly. I recommend focusing on your personal relationships, health and fitness, and on doing your best to become indispensable to some revenue generating process/stream.

    Re NJ real estate, that’s agent who I talked to in Manalapan is coming back with a bunch of price reductions. Talk about motivated sellers. Worried they’ll miss the boat?

  35. leftwing says:

    “Every time I hear the Just Comply argument I think of this.
    For a comedy, it nailed the reality.”

    Yup. because Blake would have been shot if he had just put his hands on the passenger side roof. Gotch.

    Dolt.

  36. leftwing says:

    “Any questions?”

    Uhmmm, yeah.

    Is that a Black life that matters?

  37. joyce says:

    Sure, what makes you conclude at this point in time that it was premeditated?

    Fast Eddie says:
    August 28, 2020 at 1:14 pm
    Joyce,

    It was a premeditated execution based on racial bias. No calls for justice were made in the form of “peaceful” protests nor was the incident remotely reported on the liberally biased, fake news outlets. Any other questions?

  38. Fast Eddie says:

    Sure, what makes you conclude at this point in time that it was premeditated?

    Because the shooter wasn’t provoked, defending himself nor did he fear for his life. After the first innocent victim was executed, the second was then executed and then the third innocent victim was marked for execution but is still alive.

  39. joyce says:

    Do you think there should be an investigation?

  40. leftwing says:

    “I’m going to venture…that Trump will be re-elected.”

    He had it locked pre-C19, can’t beat a booming economy and market. Dems were handed an absolute gift with C19.

    Right now I vacillate….

    It’s Biden’s to lose but shades of Hillary it appears they are doing their best to blow a solid lead.

    Way too many centrists are walking around shaking their heads saying “I can’t believe I’m going to pull the lever for this guy but I just can’t vote the Dem ticket…”

    It’s the daily faux pas…almost like the Dems have a playbook for alienating the voters they need the most.

  41. leftwing says:

    “Do you think there should be an investigation?”

    Absolutely. The number of cops chasing the defendant into the woods was overwhelming force and everyone knows K9 units are racist….Who is the AG and when are these cops going to suspended?

    :)

  42. SmallGovConservative says:

    joyce says:
    August 28, 2020 at 1:11 pm
    Shockingly enough, the NY PBA president only a full repeal of the law will let officers operate effectively and safely. Do you agree with that?

    I have no idea what the appropriate set of laws/guidelines should be. But I know that if I were an elected official I would think through the potential consequences of my actions, and I wouldn’t govern by temper-tantrum like Dems do. Right now, NYC cops have two choices — stop doing their jobs and risk nothing thanks to the backing of their union, or do their jobs and risk going to jail if, in the heat of an encounter, they violate one of the new rules. And because of that, the Dems — and the dumb citizens of NYC that elected them — now have two choices, allow crime to continue to spiral out of control, or pull back on the new guidelines to whatever extent is deemed acceptable to the NYPD.

  43. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    I like how you are proud of neighbors using a child’s tactic, swatting, and wasting police resources. Of course this is not really swatting as it is known.

    Since everyone else seems to be using this tactic, your neighbors are no different than the rest, so now on top of kiddies and freak Karens we have supposedly “normal” neighbors doing something that does not need to be normalized.

    Then you get freaks like this calling the police. Co worker of mine who shares custody got a visit from the police during his custody time. Seems when “mommy” spoke to her 6 year old son and asked what daddy was doing, the child said he was drinking. She then proceeded to call the police claiming her husband was drunk taking care of their child. He was having ice tea. This is what you call swatting divorce style.

  44. Phoenix says:

    I really feel sorry for the good police officers out there that have to deal with the constant level of depravity in our society, plus the hate they receive do to the defective co-workers they have to deal with and the damage they cause. Some of those guys really try to do the right thing. Problem is now the brand has been tainted.

  45. Democratnomore says:

    why are K-9 units racist?

  46. Fast Eddie says:

    why are K-9 units racist?

    I’m waiting for the punchline.

  47. joyce says:

    Interesting. I wonder how much this may have played a role in nursing homes with many residents needing assistance going to the bathroom, wearing diapers, etc.

    Walking says:
    August 28, 2020 at 12:57 pm
    Joyce regarding checking sewage for the covid virus, Arizona State collegew as able to lock down two forms and find the students who were asymptomatic. The schools environmental lab found the virus while monitoring the sewer lines and checking for viral load. Supposedly you poop the virus out up to 7 days before getting sick and spreading to others.

  48. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – The place was being watched because they knew the Governor was going there, was he there when the restaurant was supposed to be closed? Look the fact is our Governor has not helped the small business owners much with his shenanigans. Hiring locksmiths to break and entry on people’s business? There was no court order allowing it, and the overreach is unbelievable, $10,000 dollar a day fines for a disorderly person misdemeanor? I know you are no fan of the PoPo but the police showing up while the Governor was dining is priceless, and it is swatting without the swat team. Did his detail from the State Police form a protective circle around him so he could finish his dessert? Inquiring minds want to know.

  49. ExEssex says:

    oBaMa wOrE a bRoWn sUit

  50. ExEssex says:

    In the end, apparently not even all of the unethical pomp and circumstance of a Trump-branded White House as the backdrop of his big speech Thursday night could draw more viewers than Biden’s solemnly rousing speech to an empty auditorium.

    According to initial Nielsen numbers, President Trump’s speech Thursday night drew 14.1 million viewers across the three broadcast networks and three major cable news networks. That is more than three million fewer viewers than the 17.5 million who tuned in to watch Biden’s speech one week earlier.

  51. Phoenix says:

    I agree, it is priceless. Plus inappropriate and amusing all in one.

    Wonder if your neighbor’s name is Karen :-)

  52. leftwing says:

    “why are K-9 units racist?
    I’m waiting for the punchline.”

    Empty netter. Here’s the pass, you take the goal.

  53. Fast Eddie says:

    leftwing,

    I’ll let you score. :)

  54. chicagofinance says:

    I saw the new sign at Nicholas and was wondering what happened……. thx for the heads up…..

  55. ExEssex says:

    She was voted ‘coolest teacher’ by students in a Preston & Steve Show radio poll in 2013
    The boy told police that he and Sipera had sex inside his car at multiple Cherry Hill locations, including at a hotel parking lot and in Cooper River Park, the court document said.

    The probable cause statement also noted that the boy said he and Sipera had sex at Sipera’s home, her mother’s home and his own home.

    The boy was said to have been able to provide police with ‘specific details of the layout’ of Sipera and her mother’s homes.

    Sipera allegedly admitted to offenses ‘which took place in multiple towns,’ although it’s unclear what the specific offenses were.

    ‘Camden Catholic High School will be cooperating fully with local law enforcement,’ the school said Thursday in a statement obtained by the Courier Post, adding that it had immediately fired Sipera.

    Sipera had been the school’s girl’s lacrosse team coach and was named Coach of the Year by the Women’s Lacrosse Club of South Jersey, a 2019 edition of the school’s online magazine said.

    Sipera was voted one of 2013’s ‘Coolest Teachers’ by school students in a Preston & Steve Show poll.

  56. Juice Box says:

    Chi – Birravino did same thing, don’t know if you have been but it is pretty jumping, but maybe not high falutin enough for a failed short-term investment advisor….

  57. leftwing says:

    Phoenix, I hear you and lived much of the major ordeal you’ve experienced so I’m empathetic…

    While I agree in principle with your views – and I’m a very principled person – there is the small problem of how things work IRL….

    You go into a competition and the official says ‘keep it clean boys’ and right at the start the other guy gives you a punch in the nuts. You look at the official like ‘wtf?’ and he just shrugs his shoulders. You have two choices. Take it all game long and assuredly lose. Or fcuk the other guy up, real badly.

    My ex- twiddled with my tendies and she was carried off the ice in the third period on a stretcher. Blatant intent to injure and match penalty on my part. I just looked at the official and shrugged. Whatcha gonna do?

    Same thing going on with politics here and DC.

    We can agree to a clean competition and play that way. Or one side push the boundaries. If that happens and you as the opponent plays clean, just don’t fcuking play. The outcome is predetermined, and not in your favor.

    I told my ex- as we entered our situation that I would be fair and reasonable, and go right down the middle of the fairway, but if she deviated I had no problem flying the airliner straight into the ground. We dropped 30,000 feet over three years, and pulled up right before it hit the water. As a result I got out on a jetway, and had I not been willing to hit the water would have crashed anyway….

    Same thing with politics now….there is a dirty nasty fight going on….everything is fair and legal, hell swatting the guv’s favorite place when he is there is fun but jv. Get out on the ice and cross check someone across the face. I want teeth on the blueline, rink personnel scraping blood off the ice, the other guy’s season ended. And if you don’t realize you are playing the Flyers c. 1976 or, even worse, realize you are but turtle then GTFO of here because you are just embarrassing yourself and you’ll lose in the end just like the Russians lol.

  58. njtownhomer says:

    Why would anyone in this wonderful chat/blog would constantly distort the name of an important person in history, let alone one of the most important positions in the country all the time? It doesn’t do any mockery at all. What did he do to him personally, I wonder? Looks to me a type of psychotic complication that needs further investigation.

  59. Juice Box says:

    Sleeping Joe needs to get out of the basement and head to Wisconsin or he could lose this one writes The Atlantic..

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/how-biden-loses/615835/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

  60. chicagofinance says:

    Drink on me if and when needed……. September is going to suck because of school, but it is going to extra suck for you….. hang with it…..

    Juice Box says:
    August 28, 2020 at 4:57 pm
    Chi – Birravino did same thing, don’t know if you have been but it is pretty jumping, but maybe not high falutin enough for a failed short-term investment advisor….

  61. chicagofinance says:

    Was Behn Wilson on that team? ….. just a bit before my time….

    leftwing says:
    August 28, 2020 at 5:14 pm
    And if you don’t realize you are playing the Flyers c. 1976 or, even worse, realize you are but turtle then GTFO of here because you are just embarrassing yourself and you’ll lose in the end just like the Russians lol.

  62. joyce says:

    I’m not sure of what the exact guidelines should be either, but I do know of some that need to be reformed. You’re being disingenuous when you say right now the cops only have two choices… those have always been the choices. It is not only some of the elected officials throwing tantrums, it is the police too.

    SmallGovConservative says:
    August 28, 2020 at 2:41 pm

    I have no idea what the appropriate set of laws/guidelines should be. But I know that if I were an elected official I would think through the potential consequences of my actions, and I wouldn’t govern by temper-tantrum like Dems do. Right now, NYC cops have two choices — stop doing their jobs and risk nothing thanks to the backing of their union, or do their jobs and risk going to jail if, in the heat of an encounter, they violate one of the new rules. And because of that, the Dems — and the dumb citizens of NYC that elected them — now have two choices, allow crime to continue to spiral out of control, or pull back on the new guidelines to whatever extent is deemed acceptable to the NYPD.

  63. joyce says:

    “I don’t show up with a tape measure and try to figure out whether or not the guy’s got 50% of his walls open,” Murphy said.

    ^^^That’s the best comment in the article. Reminds me of his ““I think it costs 17 cents a mile to brine the road,” he said. “So if we become the brining state of America, I will not be upset about that.”

    Juice Box says:
    August 28, 2020 at 2:44 pm
    My neighbors are the best, they just swatted the governor!

    https://www.nj.com/news/2020/08/one-of-murphys-favorite-restaurants-accused-of-allowing-indoor-dining.html

  64. Fabius Maximus says:

    Aww,Chi did I trigger you?

    And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
    Baby, I’m just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
    I shake it off, I shake it off

  65. Fabius Maximus says:

    So this just showed up in my feeds. What did this kid do wrong?
    https://twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1299427348211625984

    The point is, that even when people comply, this stuff still happens and that’s the issue.

  66. Juice Box says:

    It looks like crazy time starts tomorrow with Berlin leading the way.

    Anti-lockdown protest, no masks etc….

    https://twitter.com/grasshopperxcc/status/1299376692524453894

  67. 3b says:

    Biden has changed his mind and will apparently be making campaign stops in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Arizona. Sounds like they might be getting worried.

  68. Juice Box says:

    Gird your loins if this anti-lockdown and anti-vaccination protest takes hold in Germany, it will spread quicker than the virus, and will roil the markets.

  69. Fabius Maximus says:

    Just Comply, the other side of the fence.

    https://twitter.com/MarkJonesESPN/status/1299467075921076231

  70. Fabius Maximus says:

    Back from another week at the beach. Good to see a almost universal mask usage. For most, next week is the last week of summer and leaves will start falling in a few weeks. So get out and enjoy the last of it if you can. Its going to be a long haul to the new year.

    I came back early due to the weather, but spent most of the day dealing with the DMV. If you can, do it online. They are giving out a set number of tickets for the day so you need to get their early. They have people queuing from Midnight. If you have to go, most offices are doing either Licences only or just Titles and Registrations. Check what you need and which offices are offering it.

    That said, its still the DMV so make sure all your paperwork is in order. I had to dig up an expired insurance card to get a replacement title. The date on the card was 2001. If I hadn’t found that I would have had to go through Trenton. Once you get into the office, because they are restricting numbers in the room, it goes very very quickly.

    So get there early enough for a ticket, depending on your number, leave and come back. They get through about 50 tickets an hour.

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    With foreign vacations off limits, China is in the middle of a theme-park boom as domestic tourists seek amusements in their own backyards.

    In Wuhan, the epicenter of the initial Covid-19 outbreak, thousands of people packed the Maya Playa Water Park in mid-August for a pool party, banishing memories of the 76 days the city had spent under strict lockdown until early April.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-theme-parks-ride-a-boom-as-tourists-have-nowhere-to-go-11598693400

  72. Hold my beer says:

    NJ will only have the fourth highest gas tax? Slackers. I thought it was in the NJ constitution to be 1 or 2 in all taxes and fees.

  73. ExEssex says:

    8:14 goood let em stay home and eat their boiled bats.

  74. ExEssex says:

    I’m the least some Democrat you know.
    The LEAST woke mofo in the Golden State.
    I still can’t find anything to like about Donny.

  75. Juice Box says:

    Essex – time and time again, he is in office because of Hillary and Obama is partly to blame for goading him.

    This time around they should have picked a stronger candidate and it would be no contest. I find it hard to believe they cannot find someone like a junior senator who was only 2 years into his term that came from nowhere to win 2008. +10 million popular votes and 365 electoral votes.

    All of the swing states Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin were won in 2008 by Obama.

    Anyone here think we are going to see that kind of margin?

    I agree with the Atlantic article sleeping Joe needs to get out of the basement now.

  76. leftwing says:

    chi, yes he was, same vintage. along with schultz, dupont, bobby clarke….

    the one about 45 seconds in against the leafs is classic for the officials’ reactions….two guys just standing off to the side chatting….lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUz-TcI2-Ow&app=desktop

  77. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Grim, you really scared me with the link. I read the link only and saw 93 cents.

  78. ExEssex says:

    Lord I dunno.

  79. leftwing says:

    “So this just showed up in my feeds. What did this kid do wrong?”

    Absolutely nothing. The cop that gave him a flying kick to the back should be fired, pension withdrawn, not allowed to work in LEO again. And charged with assault.

    I’m all for accountability. I’ll donate to a gofundme page to get the guy the best lawyer around to run that POS cop.

    I am all for accountability.

    But guess what? He’s alive to get his day in court because he complied.

    The solution is two pronged: comply and accountability. Kind of the way the criminal justice system is set up to function?

  80. joyce says:

    LW,
    Spot on comment, until the end. It’s not functioning that way due it’s setup.

  81. JCer says:

    I think we have found common ground, the system needs to be fixed for instances like that. Cops should not strike a suspect who is in total compliance. I’d argue the reason this sh*t happens is because the unions will back him. Bad cops stay on the streets because of the union, you can’t really fire them so your option is putting them behind a desk which you can only do so much of. George Floyd was likely killed by the police union, if not for the union Derick Chauvin probably would not have been on the street, 18 complaints……..

  82. leftwing says:

    “Just Comply, the other side of the fence.”

    That obnoxious idiot likes to live dangerously….Difference to me is his hands were visible when he went into the vehicle, the fatass had to hoist himself into his truck….if he lunged headfirst and toward the under side of his seat I certainly would not blame the cop for busting a couple in his back. And in any case that cop showed incredible restraint….

    To me, comparing the two videos and outcomes underscores the main point I was trying to make yesterday. That LEO is continuously put in highly charged fluid situations where the assessment of risk on scale of ‘none’ to ‘potentially life threatening’ needs to be made in a second or two….

    These instances will never go to zero. Achieving such should be the goal, but there will always be some occurrence. The way to drive that number as close to zero as possible takes effort by everyone involved and is twofold…comply and accountability.

    Today I am hearing only one side, and in the most ridiculous and self defeating manner possible, ie. burning down cities…..how did that work out for the disaffected parties when it was tried 50 years ago…or during the Rodney King episode..so, what, those worked so well so let’s do it again?

    Until and unless all parties come to an actual table understanding the shortcomings on both sides for a serious and rational conversation this will continue…firebombs change nothing and only harden opposing positions.

    Black leaders need to take the lead with their communities on education. where the fcuk are they? The Vineyard?

  83. chicagofinance says:

    Prima facie evidence…. you think you are being funny, but what it really represents is surrender. Which is meaningful to you, because your role is exposed for all to examine.

    chicagofinance says:
    August 28, 2020 at 12:18 pm
    As I’ve stated repeatedly, your function here is nothing but a troll. You accuse me of hatred, when in fact every time you read commentary here, and post anything, it is a pure act of belligerence with intent to irritate.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 28, 2020 at 7:40 pm
    Aww,Chi did I trigger you?

    And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
    Baby, I’m just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
    I shake it off, I shake it off

  84. chicagofinance says:

    I can’t get over how effective he is. Just grabs the uni with his left hand and works multiple right crosses….but on skates….. The number of times he lands is stunning…. he annihilates almost everyone he drops gloves with….

    leftwing says:
    August 29, 2020 at 10:27 am
    chi, yes he was, same vintage. along with schultz, dupont, bobby clarke….

    the one about 45 seconds in against the leafs is classic for the officials’ reactions….two guys just standing off to the side chatting….lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUz-TcI2-Ow&app=desktop

  85. joyce says:

    And the legal precedents and doctrines that make activities like this legal. In addition to being fired, why is this not a crime? Same for the other cops on scene supporting this behavior. Not to mention qualified immunity, another court granted doctrine making individual civil accountability nearly impossible.

    JCer says:
    August 29, 2020 at 12:26 pm
    I think we have found common ground, the system needs to be fixed for instances like that. Cops should not strike a suspect who is in total compliance. I’d argue the reason this sh*t happens is because the unions will back him. Bad cops stay on the streets because of the union, you can’t really fire them so your option is putting them behind a desk which you can only do so much of. George Floyd was likely killed by the police union, if not for the union Derick Chauvin probably would not have been on the street, 18 complaints……..

  86. chicagofinance says:

    I am just throwing out an incoherent jumble of issues…. no analysis, just points to consider.

    Depends on where they want to go……. they were dropped to Aa1 by Moody’s in April….. is this related to COVID I guess? that is a lot of slack if they want to be creative and forward thinking. Personally, if you look relative to Chevron and Conoco, I ask what does being a top rung rating get them? They have fcuked up massively in so many ways, but they also appear to show no vision on capital structure. Bottom line though, this discussion is around the firmness of the dividend. Also, as an inflation hedge, they are the least reactive to energy prices……. the non-U.S. integrates are already cutting dividends, but I don’t care….. I thinking either XOM or XLE, but definitely lower than here, but where is the next downdraft?

    leftwing says:
    August 26, 2020 at 2:45 pm
    chi, i just tossed xom on a watchlist…want to pull up some filings and research this weekend…likely too early but at some point….no?

  87. RentL0rd says:

    Why are there so many right wing nuts here? If you don’t like this blue state leave!

  88. ExEssex says:

    People act like joining a Union gives a job for life.
    Union people can be fired – it happens all the time.
    But there must be cause, not capricious BS.

  89. RentL0rd says:

    Also, if you don’t agree with the first amendment and right to protest, leave America. We want our fckin values back

  90. ExEssex says:

    I need a personal Jesus:

    https://youtu.be/y1Xb0Zs7Hz8

  91. SmallGovConservative says:

    RentL0rd says:
    August 29, 2020 at 2:18 pm
    “Also, if you don’t agree with the first amendment and right to protest, leave America.”

    Are these the kinds of protests we should agree with, or else leave America?

    450 NYC businesses damaged during George Floyd protests (NY Post)

    Minneapolis Estimates Protest Damages at $55 Million (Courthouse News Service)

  92. SomeOne says:

    RentLord,

    Why are there so many right wing nuts here? If you don’t like this blue state leave!

    Considering that most are men here and most have reasonably high incomes, it is not surprising that there is more support towards lower taxes (and that spills more into red-team). Most people seem to have mixed posts, even if they lean one way or other. Say, leftwing @12:12 pm condemned police violence, even though he typically seems to lean right on many issues.

    To your point, there may be one or two that may harbor and express extremist views, but which board doesn’t?

  93. RentL0rd says:

    I have been on and off this blog for 10+ years and I can tell you that it’s getting more and more right-nutty here.

    Who doesn’t like lower taxes? But if it means that the 0.01% get way more for their buck than me, or that start up companies don’t have a chance to survive, a little less greedy capitalism is fine by me.

  94. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I tell people this all the time. They don’t get it.

    And if someone does not get fired for a bone headed move…they are connected..nothing to do with the union.

    At my school, they push you out. They don’t want to do the paperwork to fire someone, so they make their life a living hell till they break and quit.

    ExEssex says:
    August 29, 2020 at 1:56 pm
    People act like joining a Union gives a job for life.
    Union people can be fired – it happens all the time.
    But there must be cause, not capricious BS.

  95. The Great Pumpkin says:

    A lot of people don’t understand this. Too much of anything is no good.

    “Who doesn’t like lower taxes? But if it means that the 0.01% get way more for their buck than me, or that start up companies don’t have a chance to survive, a little less greedy capitalism is fine by me.”

  96. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I love the people that think govt is in debt because of corruption. Keep telling yourself that. It simply does not collect enough taxes and hasn’t for a while now. People are making a lot of money, but very few pay a high rate.

  97. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Every business owner I have known has lied about their taxes. Show me one business that actually payed the rate they are supposed to. It’s crazy. So apply this across every business in America…lot of dark money hidden out there going to work through cash deals.

  98. ExEssex says:

    My understanding is the Obama era programs were especially hard on small businesses. This is not an area that I have an insights into, but it serves to illustrate that “true” not all boats were lifted during the years of Obama. People do tend to vote their wallets.

  99. Phoenix says:

    My understanding is that large businesses are especially hard on small businesses.

  100. Chicago says:

    Excellent.

    ExEssex says:
    August 29, 2020 at 2:24 pm
    I need a personal Jesus:

    https://youtu.be/y1Xb0Zs7Hz8

  101. SmallGovConservative says:

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    August 29, 2020 at 6:07 pm
    “I love the people that think govt is in debt because of corruption… It simply does not collect enough taxes…”

    Ugh! Duds like this guys and RentLo make me realize that we truly are doomed.

  102. SomeOne says:

    Phoenix,

    Obama years also coincided with the meteoric rise of online shopping and Amazon, which did a number on many small businesses. Obamacare had some direct impact on small businesses (cover employees) and also high income earners (extra 3.9% tax for ACA funds).

  103. Phoenix says:

    “Obama years also coincided with the meteoric rise of online shopping and Amazon, which did a number on many small businesses.”

    Wow, blaming that on Obama is one hell of a stretch. The ones in power and with all of the money, the boomers and their materialistic wives, are primarily boosted Amazon. Bought way more on there than the youth did. Cheap old bastards as well, any way they could save a buck they would, just like they made money from outsourcing jobs and hiring illegals and immigrants. Never pro-America, just pro their wallets. A primary reason Pumpy’s pension is not filled. Same boomer teachers wanted raises and at the same time asked for a tax break. The same boomers that now demand (but claim they need) a senior freeze, then take the money they save and sit their oversized rump roast in front of the slots.

    It’s in the lifeblood and DNA of Americans to put themselves first at the expense of anyone/anything else-including the planet, animals, even their own children’s future. And they like control through violence and power which is why they accept law enforcement slamming your head just for asking a question and not “complying.”

    So yes, Obama was a corporatist- let off all of the banks and rating companies. A rat.
    Biden and Kamala are the same-any democrat with a brain would know that. And so is Trump, but he is more “forthcoming” so there is that. The result will be the same no matter who you vote for. Boomers choose the presidents, these are the choices they gave America.

    The rest of the world did not vote for these choices-so if America picks losers and self destructs so be it. This country is like a tree that is rotting out from the inside by it’s carpenter ant Boomers. Enjoy your spoils.

  104. Phoenix says:

    And I stick to my prediction, Trump will win the election. Boomers will overwhelmingly vote for him. He uses fear as a motivation tool. Tells old boomers they will become commies overnight, they will lose their homes, that dark people will attack them, that they will become overrun with illegals and crime, that they will lose their healthcare- all if they vote against him.

    Fear is what powers the boomer.
    “it is much safer to be feared than loved because …love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.”
    ― Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

  105. joyce says:

    Not sure how you inferred blame in that sentence.

    August 29, 2020 at 10:02 pm
    “Obama years also coincided with the meteoric rise of online shopping and Amazon, which did a number on many small businesses.”

    Wow, blaming that on Obama is one hell of a stretch

  106. Fabius Maximus says:

    Chi,

    Where you here for the discussion on Verbal SAT scores. Your posts are starting to come across as Vocab Practice tests.

    “inured to any kind of refutation with common sense.”

    I take this is to mean that you don’t like that I question your views and opinions. I don’t take them on blind faith. How dare I question the infallibility of “the Gospel of Chi”

    Now let me work out how to deal with all this embarrassment and surrender now that the Great Chi has “”exposed my role” LOL.

    All this comes back to the fact that your fragile ego can’t process legitimate criticism.

  107. Phoenix says:

    Joyce,
    I’ll concede I may have overstretched on that point.

  108. Phoenix says:

    A Union County man convicted of serving as the getaway driver in a violent robbery and attack, leading police on a chase through six New Jersey towns, was sentenced Thursday to 28 years in prison, authorities said.

    NJ Couple Who Starved Children, Inflicted Years Of ‘Extreme Punishments’ Sentenced To Probation
    A Morris County couple was sentenced to probation after they admitted to years of locking their home refrigerator and forcing their children to stand in a corner for up to eight hours at a time as a form of punishment.

    John Flanagan, 35 and his wife, Joanna, both of Netcong, were sentenced Wednesday to three years of probation for child cruelty and neglect by Judge Stephen Taylor, Daily Record reports

  109. Phoenix says:

    A “getaway” driver- who technically did not touch anyone, gets 28 years.

    A couple who abused children for years get probation.

    F the justice system.

  110. JCer says:

    Pumps and essex, government waste is very, very real. Tax receipts are only one piece of the equation(tax revenue as a percentage of GDP has been pretty stable for years) and public sector unions are insane, I have a friend who handles arbitration cases for the MTA. The stories I’ve heard and the fact that these people do not lose their jobs are indicative of how the system works.

    Given how things are unfolding it would not surprise me if Trump wins. He is playing them like a fiddle. I mean just look at the candidates they’ve chosen, there base is fired up and they choose a guy who sponsored legislation to basically put black people in jail and a prosecutor who has a shaky record. This will not excite their base. Then they foment all of this agitation and lose control of it, Trump swoops in with fear and starts getting centrist undecided voters firmly in his court. Of course he is using fear, fear is a great motivator as is greed, playing to those emotions you can get people to do what you want against their best interests. There is no one like Trump, he really isn’t a politician and is pretty much making it up as he goes along, whoever he has handling strategy is doing a good job. They are really capitalizing the mistakes the democrats are making.

  111. ExEssex says:

    Filmmaker Michael Moore warned Democrats that President Trump appears to have momentum behind his reelection campaign in key battleground states, with the progressive activist saying enthusiasm for Trump is “OFF THE CHARTS” compared with Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

    Moore pointed to polling in battleground states such as Minnesota and Michigan in making the case that Trump was running alongside or ahead of Biden in key areas, setting himself up for another potential upset in November.

    “Are you ready for a Trump victory? Are you mentally prepared to be outsmarted by Trump again? Do you find comfort in your certainty that there is no way Trump can win? Are you content with the trust you’ve placed in the DNC [Democratic National Committee] to pull this off?” Moore wrote in a Facebook post on Friday.

  112. homeboken says:

    The CDC updated their numbers this week to show that only 6% of all coronavirus deaths were related to the coronavirus alone. The rest of the deaths pinned to coronavirus are attributed to individuals who had other serious issues going on. Also, most of the deaths are related to very old Americans.

    6% of death due solely to COVID. This is why we don’t quarantine otherwise healthy people.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI

  113. Hold my beer says:

    Summer of 68 had lots of riots and protests and we got Nixon in a landslide. Most people will vote for or against trump. I bet less than 10% of the votes cast will actually be from people excited to vote for Biden , the majority of votes Biden gets will be from people voting against trump. Hard to win that way.

    And I’m getting more and more convinced the extended shutdowns in blue states are from governors and mayors who expect a huge federal bailout to wipe away decades of fiscal irresponsibility and graft.

  114. homeboken says:

    The NFL, in a statement discussing week 1 social justice initiatives, is planning to allow players to read poems, share a personal vignette or make a statement, prior to kick-offs and shared during the broadcast.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2906769-nfl-reportedly-planning-extensive-social-justice-content-for-week-1

  115. BRT says:

    We already knew that. The average nursing home stay is 4 months prior to death. The reality is, 1/2 of NJ’s covid deaths would have been death by old age today instead of march. Murphy’s real crime is sending the bug into the nursing homes to expire them 4 months early.

  116. ExEssex says:

    These pro-Trump caravans are craaazy but I admit predictable.

  117. homeboken says:

    BRT – Agree that we all knew that but my take away from this is that the lock-down and quarantine of healthy people vs quarantine of sick or at risk population, was the biggest miscalculation in the last hundred years.

    The lockdowns have cost us > $5 Trillion in new borrowing, and probably 3X that much in economic loss.

    The lives of tens of millions have been impacted, in a very negative way, by shutting down the economy.

    This might be the most expensive and misguided mistake in the history of the USA. I am not exaggerating, I really believe this.

  118. ExEssex says:

    You asked for it you got it: blood in the streets.

    Great ? Yet ?

  119. Juice box says:

    Sleeping Joe needs to campaign and There won”t be a clear winner on Election Day.

    It’s scary when Mulshine agrees with me, he must read this blog.

    https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/08/tanned-rested-and-ready-donald-trump-is-in-much-better-shape-than-he-was-four-years-ago-mulshine.html

  120. Bystander says:

    Phoenix,

    The feeling you are getting in based on nothing that Dumpy did but soley work of out of control, politicized Fed. People are seeing 401k balances and going “gee, this Covid ain’t so bad now”. Younger people in 30s who kept their incomes are getting 2.5 30 year mortgages and jumping into homes. The resident dufus can claim he “predicted” this and Ed can say it was Dumpy’s great economy but reality is that Oz Powell has been most blatantly bias Fed Chair in support of a single prez in history. He has zero care for debt, inequalities and the injustices of his actions.

  121. Phoenix says:

    homeboken,

    And it was all for the boomers and the greatest. Make sure they can live to the last second no matter the cost. Sacrifice the youth’s future. Same boomers that think pension/healthcare/tax breaks belong to them but not for anyone else. Same boomers that are demanding massive overbearing police presence and penalties when they themselves drank and drove, did drugs, and committed crimes yet got a slap on the wrist.

    The irony of white people not liking darker skin when it is turning darker by the day. It’s like a immune compromise disease where the body turns on itself. Just remember, my body, my choice. If white women don’t choose to have children, but instead choose to be rabid materialistic individuals than this is what you get. There really is a thing to that “Karen” mantra. Arrogance and greed start to become a problem, as does severe punishment by the authorities.

    America is in big trouble.

  122. Phoenix says:

    And the amazing school systems in America. Kids in Europe speak 3 languages fluently by the time they are 9. This is when they are supposed to be taught this-by 11 or 12 the ability to do this easily gets much harder.
    You would think with Superintendents that call themselves doctor would know this. Plus teachers with master’s degrees who are so “educated” and so pro-child would be doing something about it.
    All that master’s degree is used for is for padding their salary. A nun could do better.

  123. Phoenix says:

    Even the mommies on Facebook are at war. Go ahead, join your multiple town forums and read. They keep splitting into more groups, banning each other, posts being blocked and deleted, more private groups- their moderators are going crazy trying to hold it together.

    Another pleasant valley Sunday
    Charcoal burning everywhere
    Rows of houses that are all the same
    And no one seems to care

    Creature comfort goals, they only numb my soul
    And make it hard for me to see
    Ah, thoughts all seem to stray to places far away
    I need a change of scenery

  124. 1987 Condo says:

    Pleasant Valley Sunday…..written by C. King while living on Pleasant Valley Way in West Orange…… Excellent song

  125. 1987 Condo says:

    While on the Monkees..

    Shades of Gray

    When the world and I were young
    Just yesterday
    Live was such a simple game
    A child could play
    It was easy then to tell right from wrong
    Easy then to tell weak from strong
    When a man should stand and fight
    Or just go along

    But today there is no day or night
    Today there is no dark or light
    Today there is no black or white
    Only shades of gray

    I remember when the answers seemed so clear
    We had never lived with doubt or tasted fear
    It was easy then to tell truth from lies
    Selling out from compromise
    Who to love and who to hate
    The foolish from the wise

    But today there is no day or night
    Today there is no dark or light
    Today there is no black or white
    Only shades of gray

    It was easy then to know what was fair
    When to keep and when to share
    How much to protect your heart
    And how much to care

    But today there is no day or night
    Today there is no dark or light
    Today there is no black or white
    Only shades of gray
    Only shades of gray

  126. ExEssex says:

    Something tells me Putin is thrilled!

  127. BRT says:

    This might be the most expensive and misguided mistake in the history of the USA. I am not exaggerating, I really believe this.

    I’m gonna say that NAFTA and other trade agreements were, as they allowed all of our factories to sit empty and rot into decay. But that was a more slow bleeding process over 20 years.

  128. BRT says:

    You would think with Superintendents that call themselves doctor would know this. Plus teachers with master’s degrees who are so “educated” and so pro-child would be doing something about it.
    All that master’s degree is used for is for padding their salary. A nun could do better.

    Every administrator with a Edd or PhD I’ve ever met obtained it through an online school that barely required any work. It was a smoke and mirrors show in place of the old mail away degrees.

    The same goes for the teachers with their “online accelerated masters program”. It’s all a joke. In person, the educational degrees are no different. My wife was in the PhD program at Rutgers for Chemistry which is a real deal slave away your life for 5-6 years program. She simultaneously did a Masters in teaching at TCNJ at night. She said the latter was a complete joke.

    The worst part about teaching degrees is that most of their theories are based upon pure BS. Almost none of it is true or even applies in the classroom.

  129. joyce says:

    N.J. teen who held Black Lives Matter protest gets hit with $2,500 bill for police overtime
    https://www.nj.com/bergen/2020/08/nj-teen-who-held-black-lives-matter-protest-gets-hit-with-2500-bill-for-police-overtime.html

  130. Phoenix says:

    Mayor rescinds $2,500 bill sent to N.J. teen who held Black Lives Matter protest

    https://www.nj.com/bergen/2020/08/mayor-rescinds-2500-bill-sent-to-nj-teen-who-held-black-lives-matter-protest.html

    Guess he realized how dopey it was.

  131. Sunday observer says:

    Asain teen stands out among college applicants with phony black lives matter protest and $2500 bill from mayor.

  132. Grim says:

    Columbus OH improved quite a bit over the last 10 years.

  133. Walking says:

    Can anyone calculate what the covid death toll would need to hit for SS benefits to continue through 2050? I think right now as benefits run out in 2033. We probably picked up a couple of weeks through 2033 at this rate. Sorry for sounding selfish, but I need to start thinking like a boomer if I ever want to retire

  134. SomeOne says:

    Sunday, if more Latinx, Asians, and whites show solidarity with oppressed AA, wouldn’t there be more improved race relations in the country?

  135. 3b says:

    Getting very dark in here, and a little ugly. Just saying.

  136. joyce says:

    Definitely. And the mayor did get his name in the news, twice, playing to his base and blaming multiple people other than himself. Dope is right.

    Phoenix says:
    August 30, 2020 at 2:19 pm
    Mayor rescinds $2,500 bill sent to N.J. teen who held Black Lives Matter protest

    https://www.nj.com/bergen/2020/08/mayor-rescinds-2500-bill-sent-to-nj-teen-who-held-black-lives-matter-protest.html

    Guess he realized how dopey it was

  137. Walking says:

    3b -I thought all the financial actuaries on here would have that figured out by now.

    We had a family picnic today. The retirees big concern was when would they see another stimulas check? When I asked them if there pension changed (60k annual) or the social sec (33k annual) ? 401k change? They said no. I said aren’t they more concerned about their kids or their grandkids where the parents are unemployed? They said, well it would be nice to get another check and go on a vacation.

  138. joyce says:

    We know you do not like Asians for some reason. You’ve outed yourself previously. But I find it hard to believe she planned on getting an invoice from the mayor.

    Sunday observer says:
    August 30, 2020 at 2:58 pm
    Asain teen stands out among college applicants with phony black lives matter protest and $2500 bill from mayor.

  139. LurksMcGee says:

    I’m starting to see a glaring resemblance between anti-suffragettes and the people that are against the notion that Black Lives Matters. And by resemblance, I mean in thought process and tactics to refute the notion.

    In light news, today’s weather was beautiful

  140. ExEssex says:

    Sucks to have to chose sides in a burgeoning civil war started by an insecure egomaniac to save his sorry ass. Americans are stupid.

  141. homeboken says:

    The “notion” of black lives matter is obvious to all but a scant few outliers I’m society.

    The organization Black Lives Matter is a political wing that has been in existence since 2013, raised over $1billion and has never fixed a neighborhood, houses a family or sent a black life to college.

    It’s a clever name. Black Lives Matter, Antifa, etc. Of course people think black lives matter, of course we are anti-fascist. Buy the groups that have corrupted those names are not focused on morality. They are clever marketing gimicks, nothing more.

  142. Phoenix says:

    Americans are stupid.

    Yup.

  143. Phoenix says:

    “They said, well it would be nice to get another check and go on a vacation.”

    As predictable as gravity.

  144. 1987 condo says:

    Walking: Social Security benefits can never run out, it is a pay as you go system. The worst case scenario is that the supposed trust fund runs dry, then ongoing payments would be cut to what is brought in each year…approximately 75% of the expected amount. (Although I am not an Actuary, my bachelors degree is in actuarial science, not that that would matter for this explanation)

  145. No One says:

    FabMax wrote:
    “Where you here for the discussion on Verbal SAT scores.”

    I see 2 blatant mistakes above. I’m guessing your Verbal SAT or equivalent wasn’t that great. Your reasoning capability seems just as poor.
    What do people talk about at the Daily Kos or wherever your kind congregate?

  146. Walking says:

    Thanks condo, I’ll take 75 percent. Who knows, 20 years from now we may be offered +100percent if we choose the red or blue pill . Was never a matrix fan.

  147. 3b says:

    Walking : Yep that’s there attitude self centered, self absorbed . Been saying it long before Phoenix arrived, of course he wants the Boomers all exterminated! Harsh I would say. And in other news story today about New Yorkers fleeing to the suburbs 0ver paying and out bidding it each other in towns like Maywood, Belleville, and Valley Stream NY. Not exactly the considered the most desirable towns. Silly folks could have told the Boomer sellers shove your house where the sun don’t shine, but nah they are complicit in their own downfall.

  148. ExEssex says:

    Look most of these folks grew up with Depression Era
    Parents meaning they’d have lived lives bereft by most modern
    standards. I’m pleased the elderly live, often in less expensive
    But also amongst us, they offer something to their families often baby sitting or
    Shuttling kids. Respect your elders.

  149. Fabius Maximus says:

    NoOne,

    Never sat the SATs, but I’ll put myself firmly in the average category. I get the missing question mark., feel free to point out the other if you feel the need.

  150. joyce says:

    Two question marks are missing
    And it’s “All of this” not “all this”

    You stoopid Fabius

  151. chicagofinance says:

    Update: the town was renamed “Indigenous Person” OH earlier this year.

    Grim says:
    August 30, 2020 at 3:06 pm
    Columbus OH improved quite a bit over the last 10 years.

  152. ExEssex says:

    The coronavirus pandemic has forced millions of workers out of office spaces and into their homes, but 54% of workers polled in a new survey say they would prefer to continue working remotely full time.
    IBM conducted a survey among 25,000 people to gauge how perspectives about work, transportation, and leisure changed since the outbreak of the coronavirus.
    Working from home could make workers happier and save employees and employers money.

  153. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joyce,

    Valid, although I would point out I am not the only one on this thread guilty of that offence.

    All hail the Gramatic Pedants!

  154. joyce says:

    By the way, thanks for the DMV tip… never knew they had a problem with long lines and delays.

  155. Phoenix says:

    “of course he wants the Boomers all exterminated! ”

    Never said that.

  156. ExEssex says:

    Education is a bit of a freak show I will readily admit, but I thoroughly enjoyed the graduate school that I attended. I did a 60 hr masters that at the time was very comprehensive and I got to spend a lot of time in “studio” as well as field work, student teaching, etc. Those were heady days! Then I ignored it all and went into technology for a dozen years. But in fact teaching has been somewhat lucrative as a fallback career or perhaps it was the intended career all along. I will also add that most colleges really do not prepare students for a “career” but rather give them the tools to find information, formulate an approach, and perhaps weather the absolute mouth breathing tool bags that slither their way into administration.

Comments are closed.