C19 Open Discussion Week 27

From MarketWatch:

‘It’s a five-alarm fire, a 100-year fiscal tsunami’

As fall descends on their virus-weary city, New Yorkers have some fresh reasons for optimism.

More people are out on the sidewalks. Gyms are open again. Though Broadway’s still dark and Manhattan CEOs are grumbling about “widespread anxiety,” many offices aren’t quite as empty as they were before Labor Day. Meanwhile, indoor dining and classroom learning are both set to return by the end of the month—with restrictions.

But there’s still a big missing piece in the complex puzzle of New York’s slow resurgence, and transit officials are struggling mightily to fit it back in. The subway is still a relative ghost town.

“Come back,” Patrick Foye, chairman and CEO of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, was saying a couple of hours after Gov. Andrew Cuomo instituted new $50 fines on Thursday for anyone caught on a train or in a station without a face mask.

Is the subway safe?

“Absolutely,” Foye said.

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299 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 27

  1. grim says:

    Very wealthy friend of the family will be in NYC today looking to buy a place.

  2. SmallGovConservative says:

    Fabius Maximus says:
    September 12, 2020 at 11:22 pm
    “Small, Never said it [#1 Dem apologist FlabMax chimed-in and blamed deregulation…], so I think you need to roll tape on this one.”

    Here you go Flabby; Ctrl-F makes it very easy; only took ~30 seconds to roll through a bunch of your whoppers — 30% of Penn State football players have myocarditis, Cali fires due to deregulation, etc…

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 26, 2020 at 5:01 pm
    Small WtF is that all about. You want to have a discussion on the Ca blackout issue, Fine. If you want to discuss CA energy deregulation lets go.

  3. 3b says:

    Grim: There will be deals I am sure.

  4. Fabius Maximus says:

    Small, now I remember. I was at the beach and you listed deregulation on your GOP Grievance Bingo card. We never actually discussed it.

    But ok, how do you place CA Energy Deregulation at the Dems door when it was pushed through and signed by Pete Wilson and Arnie, as GOP Governors?

  5. Juice Box says:

    Covid-19 cluster at the local Hockey Rink by me, school starts tomorrow..

    “The Middletown Township Department of Health and Social Services announced today that they are collaboratively investigating a cluster of approximately 13 COVID-19 cases with a common connection to the Middletown Sports Complex/Ice World facility.

    The investigation has revealed that the earliest onset of symptoms was Sept. 3”

  6. Juice Box says:

    Did not notice I posted this on the last thread, so here it is again.

    Is the Subway safe? From Covid-19? Apparently not as Deblasio and Cuomo, the members of government at all level including Senator Chuck Schumer don’t ride it.

    Deblasio does not want to open the city until there is a vaccine, and well he is term limited his next gig is stumping for his wife who is running for office in Brooklyn.

    Day-by-day ridership, it’s ticked up about 5% in the last two months but still way way down.

    Thursday, 9/10/20 1,523,777 -72.3% YoY

    Wednesday, 9/9/20 1,596,868 -70.9% YoY

    Tuesday, 9/8/20 1,551,220 -71.8% YoY

    Then there is the other question of safety as crime has ticked up. Won’t be long before the next generation vigilante appears on the scene. Anyone remember Bernhard Goetz? I see even Curtis Sliwa is making the rounds again, he is running for Mayor of NYC.

    Anecdotal neighbor who works downtown has been driving in won’t take the ferry to work.

  7. Juice Box says:

    Beer- never went to the doc? Ugh..young guy with a family, bad moves for sure.

  8. Hold my beer says:

    Juice

    Lots of people in my area still think it’s a hoax or just a cold. Before masks became mandatory in Texas in July I would get dirty looks and eye rolls every time I went into a store or post office wearing a mask.

  9. Juice Box says:

    Yeah well social media allows the spread of this unreality that we live in today, it’s all a hoax until it gets someone in your family.

    My aunt just had a hip replaced in NYC, best docs Medicare can provide. I would not go visit even if I was allowed too. I will instead be safe at home watching football today even with them piping in fake fan noise. I know too many people that got Covid-19 from the hospital and mass transit, and everyone with a brain knows it will come roaring back because most mouth breathers don’t bother even washing their hands.

    Pray for a vaccine, even if you worship nothing.

  10. BoomerRemover says:

    Hold – That’s because you moved to live with the mouth breathers.
    Juice – I want to slap every boomer and old person wearing masks over their moufs only. What schmucks.

    Does anybody listen to the Bridgewater Associates macro eco/policy content on YouTube? Most are really good.

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    Hold – That’s because you moved to live with the mouth breathers.

    Explain.

  12. BoomerRemover says:

    Free concussive vasectomy with the gender reveal. Najs.

    Hold is in some part of TX he tried to sell the weary and tired NJers on, which turns out to be low iq corner of the world.

  13. 3b says:

    Juice: And sleeping pills restricted his oxygen. Had he not taken the pills he may have come through it.

  14. Hold my beer says:

    Boomer

    I have never encouraged anyone to move near you

    Enjoy your tax increases and crumbling infrastructure

  15. homeboken says:

    Re: lead article. Good buddy of mine that works for a well know hedge fund name. Management forced them all into their NYC office the day after Memorial Day and each day since.

    He says even now, it takes him 2+ hours tod rice home. Nobody is taking mass transit. Everyone drives in/out. Imagine 2 million or more cars descending on NYC each work day from NJ and Long Island.

  16. homeboken says:

    To drive…not tod rice…nice work spell check.

  17. Fast Eddie says:

    homeboken,

    Tod Rice! I like that! I think I’ll use that as my new p0rn name! :)

  18. ExEssex says:

    But there are times that you feel you’re part of the scenery
    All the greenery is comin’ down, boy
    And then your wife seems to think you’re part of the furniture
    Oh, it’s peculiar, she used to be so nice

    https://youtu.be/zKGOCOAI_2c

  19. ExEssex says:

    Ahem.
    Donald Trump shared his intent to run for president again in 2024 during a campaign event in Minden, Nevada, on Saturday night
    ‘We’re gonna win four more years … and after that, we’ll negotiate,’ he said
    ‘Based on the way we were treated, we are probably entitled to another four after that,’ he added
    Over the course of his first term Trump has repeatedly suggested that he wants to serve more than eight years in office
    The suggestion has alarmed critics who believe he isn’t joking about violating constitutional boundaries

  20. homeboken says:

    Over 100 people took to the GWB last night and shut it down to vehicle traffic.

    Do you consider these people protestors or rioters.

    Police arrested 6 people. Six.

    If DiBlasio doesn’t put this mob down, this will spread into NJ in the coming weeks/months.

    If the election doesn’t go the way BLM wants it to go, it will really kick off.

  21. Juice box says:

    Essex – even a dope smoker knows laws can be changed, there has not been anY amendment in almost 30 years.I would like the next one to be term limits For Congress But hey nobody Elected or on that track wants that.

  22. Juice box says:

    Re: “ Over 100 people took to the GWB last night and shut it down to vehicle traffic.”

    I remember way back when the NAC lead by Sharpton did the same thing, over Tawana Brawley. I was there on my way to JFK to drop off a family member. The 18 wheeler in front of me pushed through and I drafted him. Funny seeing it in daily news the next morning on my way to work, we had to wait for news unless it was 1010 wins.

  23. homeboken says:

    Per the Washington Free Beacon – Rutgers has declared the English language a tool of white supremecy. The English Department at Rutgers is apparently will be rethinking how the teach.

    …”American grammar as we have always known it is, “part of white supremacy because students of ‘multilingual, non-standard academic English backgrounds’ are allegedly disadvantaged.”

    So people that don’t speak English have a tougher time than native speakers. Groundbreaking discover at our state university.

  24. Juice box says:

    Homeboken I am confused it’s this good or bad. Performative allayship? Do they even know? I prefer Klingon anyway as you cannot upset fictional reality. I being Irish can fully understand, we speak english but swear in Gaelic when we are really upset, it”s a nice compromise.

  25. BRT says:

    The way Rutgers English department was ran, nobody is supreme other than the POS professors teaching. They force you to take the crappiest course in the history of college, “Expository Writing”. They would give everyone a C+ at best.

  26. Libturd says:

    “The 18 wheeler in front of me pushed through and I drafted him.”

    A few years back, when Trump was busy baiting Puerto Ricans, Gator Jr. and I nearly missed a plane due to an impromptu Puerto Rican Pride Parade that was blocking Spring Street (I think). After about 45 minutes of waiting, I walked to the front of the cars and yelled out, I support your cause, but if you don’t let me through so I can make a plane at JFK, I swear I’m gonna take out a whole bunch of you. They kindly let us through and then blocked the path again. Crazy, I allotted 3 hours door to door from Glen Ridge to JFK mid-day. Made it by about ten minutes. For those who have not self parked at long-term JFK and need to to walk to Jet Blue check-in (had to check hockey bags and sticks manually due to oversize issue). Make sure you allot a solid 30 minutes, most of which is the walk from the train to the terminal. Due to saving the old TWA terminal due to its historical significance. They could not get the station stop anywhere near the terminal. Lots of elevators too.

  27. Phoenix says:

    “If DiBlasio doesn’t put this mob down, this will spread into NJ in the coming weeks/months.”

    No way. Jersey cops are of a totally different breed.

  28. leftwing says:

    ‘Tod Rice! I like that! I think I’ll use that as my new p0rn name!”

    Evokes imagery of little white d1ck….Try Long Brown Grain instead….

    “So people that don’t speak English have a tougher time than native speakers. Groundbreaking discover at our state university.”

    Priceless. Now that is funny.

    “No way. Jersey cops are of a totally different breed.”

    Hopefully. If the Leftist-in-Charge actually lets them do their job. Enough coddling. They march the GWB I’d like to see a line of blue across the Jersey side. As soon as they hit the Garden State jurisdiction start the arrests for obstructing traffic, anyone who resists gets their skull cracked open. Time to take back our streets.

  29. D-FENS says:

    https://twitter.com/cvpayne/status/1305452418998710272?s=21

    Positive News the News Won’t Report

    Homeownership

    Hispanic at highest level ever on record
    Black highest since 2008
    Under 35 year old highest since 2008

    Financial media has joined mainstream media refuses to report positive and encouraging factual trends that might inspire.

  30. 30 year realtor says:

    D FENS,

    Are you saying this is of greater importance than the massive foreclosure crisis that is ahead? And the massive tenancy eviction crisis ahead? I would argue that you are ignoring the real news.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/11/coronavirus-mortgage-bailouts-decline-but-new-foreclosure-crisis-could-be-coming.html

  31. grim says:

    Both of those trends are disproportionately impacting the poor and urban.

    So, safe to say, nobody really cares, certainly not the politicians.

  32. ExEssex says:

    5:31 oBsTructIng TrAfFic:

    The Fort Lee lane closure scandal, also known as the George Washington Bridge lane closure scandal or Bridgegate, is a U.S. political scandal in which a staff member and political appointees of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie colluded to create traffic jams in Fort Lee, New Jersey, by closing lanes at the main toll.

  33. homeboken says:

    The eviction moratorium with the lack of meaningful stimulus to the renter is going to cause a big problem for land-lords and more so to lenders.

    The CDC/Administration eviction moratorium was an attempt to call congress’ bluff or force them to act. Thus far, they aren’t taking the bait and all signs point to them sitting on their hands until after election day.

    Sept. collection loss figures are rising and October & November could be a real mess.

  34. 3b says:

    Rutgers should be embarrassed.

  35. D-FENS says:

    I’m not saying anything really. Just re-posting Charles Payne’s opinion on the matter. your post would seem to make his point.

    30 year realtor says:
    September 14, 2020 at 7:17 am
    D FENS,

    Are you saying this is of greater importance than the massive foreclosure crisis that is ahead? And the massive tenancy eviction crisis ahead? I would argue that you are ignoring the real news.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/11/coronavirus-mortgage-bailouts-decline-but-new-foreclosure-crisis-could-be-coming.html

  36. D-FENS says:

    Climate change causes arson now. This is science.

    https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=261193

    A suspect arrested last evening for starting a brush fire was arrested again after he started 6 more small fires.

    On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:37a.m., East Precinct officers were dispatched with Portland Fire and Rescue to a report of multiple fires burning along the west side of the I-205 freeway. Portland Fire and Rescue extinguished three of them while passing community members put out the other three. All were caught early. No one was injured and no structures were burnt. Officers located Domingo Lopez, Junior walking along the shoulder and arrested him. They seized a lighter as evidence.

    Lopez was transported to a hospital on a Police Officer Hold for a mental health evaluation. He was issued citations for 6 additional counts of Reckless Burning.

  37. leftwing says:

    “5:31 oBsTructIng TrAfFic….a staff member and political appointees of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie colluded to create traffic jams in Fort Lee, New Jersey, by closing lanes at the main toll.”

    Should have gone to jail. Also would have supported someone cracking CC with a nightstick.

    Thought the staff including some blonde middle aged attorney were convicted but then overturned? Not interested enough to google the details….

  38. leftwing says:

    “…and all signs point to them [Congress] sitting on their hands until after election day.
    Sept. collection loss figures are rising and October & November could be a real mess.”

    I suspect that Nov/Dec could be a real sh1tshow across the economy….DJT loses, everyone is bailing, no effort toward anything including and maybe especially by DJT. No one in the Admin, with the possible exception of Mnuchin, will be engaged. Likely even some overt sabotage to undermine an incoming Biden admin.

  39. Juice Box says:

    First day of Skool is a big cluster F this morning. My kids are home for the first 3 days and sofar internet in classroom for my oldest dropped, so learning over until they get it fixed.

    My youngest schedule for online learning has seven “breaks” or “independent work” or “recess” between actual online classroom time between 8:40 AM and 1:10 dismissal.

    Going to be a long long semester.

  40. leftwing says:

    Pods. Half dozen families. Two teachers. Best educational experience they will receive. For the cost of a good vacation or a couple weeks at the shore.

  41. Hold my beer says:

    We’re in week 6 of school. My son Likes to play guitar on his lunch. My daughter has to make a 30 minute video for PE doing jumping jacks and squats and other exercises everyday and upload it. How a teacher can go through over 200 videos that are 30 minutes long everyday is a modern miracle . My wife thinks she fast forwards through them. I think she just sees how long the video is and doesn’t watch it. PE teacher is morbidly obese naturally

  42. Juice Box says:

    Israel goes into three week lockdown again as Covid-19 infections spike to 4,000 a day.

  43. Phoenix says:

    Every morning I read stuff here that is more depressing than the day before.

    Problem is it’s all true.

    At least I am not the only one seeing this.

  44. Juice Box says:

    I was in Napa summer of 2018 for a wedding, constant smell of smoke and firetrucks racing around the crowded roads day and night. Some idiot tossed a lit cigarette out the window at a stop light and burned a whole area near downtown. Fires are 90% caused by idiots, but the science does say it’t dry there longer than in years past.

    So a longer dry season in California, they are just going to have to find a way to deal as there is no way they are going to stop the billions of people in the third world from wanting electricity and modern conveniences, and emissions that come from it.

  45. ExEssex says:

    9:42 yeah mon. Honestly don’t know.
    Since the cLiMaTe is now weaponized
    Political fodder. My guess is that you either drill
    for oil on National Parks or you do not.
    But first….leTs sAvE cOal….

  46. D-FENS says:

    Gen IV nuclear. It can use the waste from Gen II and III reactors…

    ExEssex says:
    September 14, 2020 at 10:05 am
    9:42 yeah mon. Honestly don’t know.
    Since the cLiMaTe is now weaponized
    Political fodder. My guess is that you either drill
    for oil on National Parks or you do not.
    But first….leTs sAvE cOal….

  47. D-FENS says:

    Next-Gen Nuclear Is Coming—If Society Wants It

    https://www.wired.com/story/next-gen-nuclear/

    There are reactors that burn nuclear waste. There are reactors designed to destroy isotopes that could be made into weapons. There are small reactors that could be built inexpensively in factories.

    Other reactors, like Terrestrial’s molten-salt-cooled design, automatically cool down if they get too hot. Water flows through conventional reactors to keep them from overheating, but if something halts this flow — like the earthquake and tsunami in Fukushima — the water boils off, leaving nothing to stop a meltdown.

    Unlike water, salt wouldn’t boil off, so even if operators switched off safety systems and walked away, the salts would keep cooling the system, Irish said. Salts heat up and expand, pushing uranium atoms apart and slowing down the reaction (the farther apart the uranium atoms, the less likely a flying neutron will split them apart, triggering the next link in the chain reaction).

  48. JCer says:

    Juice, that is the issue. No matter what we do if it can be obtained inexpensively it will continued to be used. It is only when it becomes uneconomical that people stop using it. Most on the left have no grasp of economics nor human nature so they don’t understand that the majority of the worlds population lives a third world existence and dirty energy allows them to grow food and improve their lives with the limited infrastructure they have, think petrol, diesel, CNG or butane and even coal many of these places have no reliable electrical grid many are not connected at all in the countryside. In general unless the extraction cost is high all our regulation does is reduce demand which allows the third world to buy and burn with fewer environmental regulations.

  49. homeboken says:

    Anybody else find it strange/troubling, that less than 2 months out from hotly contested general election, one of the candidates decided to take the weekend off and not appear in any campaign stops or live event?

    At a minimum, I think it is very poor election strategy. Per the polls, the race is tightening everywhere. I don’t think Joe will be able to ride out the next 7 weeks in the shadows and hope Trump/GOP hang themselves.

  50. Juice Box says:

    homeboken – strategy is to canvass for votes all online. No knocking on doors and few campaign stops.

    Strategy laid out pretty well here.

    https://www.wbez.org/stories/republicans-are-knocking-on-doors-democrats-arent-bidens-campaign-says-thats-ok/35389fb7-2a6c-4aff-bde7-0ad9faaa2341

  51. Phoenix says:

    Trump is not going to win the election.
    Biden is going to lose it.

  52. Phoenix says:

    Plenty of energy in burning buildings.

  53. Fast Eddie says:

    Anybody else find it strange/troubling, that less than 2 months out from hotly contested general election, one of the candidates decided to take the weekend off and not appear in any campaign stops or live event?

    He’s exhausted. He’s a puppet. He’s an old 78 year old person. He’s really in his late 80’s, health-wise. Trump is tireless, stubborn and tenacious. He does what he says and that’s the real reason the left and their toadies hate him. It makes them look bad. Individual effort makes the progressives squeamish. They relay on each other as a crutch, to make an individual effort frightens them and anger is their response.

  54. D-FENS says:

    The time between election night and when mail in votes are counted are likely to be the most politically violent we’ll ever witness

  55. Bystander says:

    Ex,

    ..and red hat dolts thinks he walks on it too.

  56. Hold my beer says:

    The WTC victims fund called me back. They claimed I don’t need any witness affidavits. If my former employer faxes the employee verification letter directly to VCF that’s all I need to prove my presence. Not sure if I believe that

  57. homeboken says:

    We are 2 weeks away from the first debate and I can’t for the life of me figure out what the DNC plan is for Biden? Could it be that they are just going to toss him out there, with no ear piece and no teleprompter for 90 minutes?

  58. D-FENS says:

    https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/whistleblower-dr-yan-releases-report-suggesting-coronavirus-was-lab-modified/

    Whistleblower Dr. Yan Releases Report Suggesting Coronavirus Was ‘Lab Modified’

  59. Fast Eddie says:

    homeboken,

    A reporter asked O’Biden where he’s going to be campaigning tomorrow and his wife and an aid had to answer for him because he didn’t know. Btw, saw a huge Trump banner by a house near Nyack the other day. It was billboard size!

  60. Fast Eddie says:

    No Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade… but it’s okay to ri0t and protest…

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/14/new-york-city-mayor-says-macys-thanksgiving-parade-will-go-on-without-crowd.html

  61. Walking says:

    Hold, not sure if you took a posters advice regarding contacting victims fund. (I was casually paying attention to the posts) but that would be good news for you and potentially save you $ in legal costs. A bottle of grims finest may be in order?

  62. leftwing says:

    “I don’t think Joe will be able to ride out the next 7 weeks in the shadows and hope Trump/GOP hang themselves.”

    Agreed with you up to this point….never underestimate DJT’s ability to step on his own d1ck.

  63. NoBull Monday says:

    Because of the massive amount of shear propaganda. Anytime anyone links an article that is NOT from a well known source. I recommend you check the source out before following link to see if its going to be worth your time.

    D-Fense – you failed. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-national-pulse/

  64. D-FENS says:

    I’m taking my tinfoil had and going home. screw you guys

  65. D-FENS says:

    More fake news

    Pennsylvania’s pandemic restrictions are unconstitutional, judge rules

    https://www.wtae.com/article/judge-rules-pennsylvania-gov-tom-wolf-shutdown-orders-unconstitutional/34013103

    PITTSBURGH —
    Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf’s closing of “non-life-sustaining” businesses and restrictions on gatherings during the COVID-19 pandemic were ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge on Monday.

    “We’re aware of the ruling and are reviewing the decision,” a spokesperson for the governor’s office said Monday afternoon.

    Advertisement
    The ruling by U.S. District Judge William Stickman IV was made in a case in which Butler, Greene, Fayette and Washington counties are listed as plaintiffs. The counties had filed suit, claiming the shutdown orders were unconstitutional.

    Stickman, an appointee of President Donald Trump, wrote in his ruling that the Wolf administration’s pandemic policies have been overreaching, arbitrary and violated citizens’ constitutional rights.

    Stickman ruled in favor of individual and business plaintiffs, and he dismissed the county governments from the case. Individuals who won the favorable ruling include U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, R-Pa.; state Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, R-Butler; and various businesses including hair salons and the Starlight Drive-In.

    The declaratory judgment says “(1) that the congregate gathering limits imposed by defendants’ mitigation orders violate the right of assembly enshrined in the First Amendment; (2) that the stay-at-home and business closure components of defendants’ orders violate the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment; and (3) that the business closure components of defendants’ orders violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.”

    In his written opinion, Stickman noted that the Wolf administration’s actions “were undertaken with the good intention of addressing a public health emergency,” but that “even in an emergency, the authority of government is not unfettered.”

    “The liberties protected by the Constitution are not fair-weather freedoms — in place when times are good but able to be cast aside in times of trouble,” Stickman wrote. “There is no question that this country has faced, and will face, emergencies of every sort. But the solution to a national crisis can never be permitted to supersede the commitment to individual liberty that stands as the foundation of the American experiment. The Constitution cannot accept the concept of a ‘new normal’ where the basic liberties of the people can be subordinated to open-ended emergency mitigation measures.

    “Rather, the Constitution sets certain lines that may not be crossed, even in an emergency. Actions taken by defendants crossed those lines. It is the duty of the court to declare those actions unconstitutional.”

    Wolf has since lifted many of the restrictions, allowing businesses to reopen and canceling a statewide stay-at-home order.

    But over the summer, his administration imposed a new round of statewide pandemic restrictions on bars, restaurants and larger indoor gatherings in response to rising infection rates in some virus hot spots. The state has also imposed a gathering limit of more than 25 people for events held indoors and more than 250 people for those held outside.

    Pennsylvania has reported that more than 145,000 people statewide have contracted the virus since the beginning of the pandemic. More than 7,800 people have died.

    (The Associated Press contributed to this article.)

  66. Libturd says:

    That’s where D gets all of his news from.

  67. homeboken says:

    I’m hearing that Bernie is not happy. The DNC seems to be heading towards a centrist port, and Bernie just can’t swallow that.

    Sanders made the rounds this weekend, claiming that Joe needs to remember his leftist base. He recommends Joe meet and actively campaign with AOC.

    The DNC is not on board with that idea.

    Recipe for the Bernie Bros to sit out this year. Remember, the Bernie Bros are not in the “anyone but Trump” camp. They have an agenda. They want progressive policies. They won’t show up to vote for Joe just because they don’t like Trump.

  68. ExEssex says:

    November can’t come quick enough.

  69. Juice Box says:

    Oh Plz leave D-FENS alone already.

    Dr. Yan is real there are other reputable sources like CNN.

  70. Bystander says:

    Ed,

    ..and I saw a Deadhead sticker on Cadillac.

  71. njtownhomer says:

    Another 4 years would bring dollar to its knees. Fed would devalue it so much that gold could go to $15000 before Trump vacates the premises. Perhaps that would give everybody a jolt to jump into Bernie wagon.

  72. leftwing says:

    “D-Fense – you failed.”

    Ehhh, you failed….I ran the NYT through your media checker….they came up center-left versus extreme right….there is no difference between the agendas and writings of the two organizations, except NYT is Left and the National Pulse is Right….

    Your media checker is biased lol.

    Remember, always watch the watchers…..especially the self appointed ones…..

  73. JCer says:

    Doesn’t change the facts, Dr. Yan is presenting something there aren’t enough details nor other experts corroborating it. At this point I’m not sure what I think, my suspicion is regardless of if this was a naturally occurring virus or modified in a lab, the fact that this broke out in Wuhan smells funny. First because Wuhan is nowhere close to where the bats live who are the natural reservoir, it seems highly unlikely the outbreak begins there…. Next the proximity to the lab where research on bat viruses take place…..then the cover up ran by the party….

    To me I think there was a lab accident…..Whether it was a virus they found in some animal or something they were “editing” based on something found in a bat remains to be seen. Given what has happened thus far we may never really know…..

  74. JCer says:

    left the last time the NYTimes was center anything had to be at least 20 years ago…..

  75. ExEssex says:

    3:27 a little voice inside my head said don’t look back….

  76. Libturd says:

    Times has become leftist trash. Shame, because they used to be really respectable. The scariest part is how amazing they are with nuance. Unlike any Murdoch tabloid where they just outright make sh1t up and print it in 40 point type headlines. The Times simply leaves out what the writer does not want the reader to know. Then again, that’s Trump’s narrative procedure as well. Trump says the forest fires are 100% due to lack of forest management. The truth is, one, more people now live in the mountains making forest management much harder. Two, with more people living in the forest, the likelihood of morons to accidentally light forest fires is significantly increased. Three, the climate IS much drier. Four, bad forestry management. But to Trump, it’s all bad forestry management. And his uneducated, shit-for-brain, supporters don’t even realize it. I suppose, there is no need for nuance when you are willing to support a hate filled person even willing to make fun of our war dead.

    In other news, had to fix something at the multi. At noon today, at the Walnut Street lot with an estimated 5 year waiting list for a parking permit, there were a total of six cars parked at the station which holds 204 cars.

    Who is going to pay for NJ Transit Rail?

  77. perth amboy knows says:

    Underneath it all, it seems, “detestEddie” has an eye to an audience -where “I’m functioning: really, really I am” is so, so important. Never mind the frivolous gish-galloping or non dialectical brilliance – please acknowledge: I am succeeding, regardless of what my split level, disenchanted (looking for options) wife may indicate. Please, please acknowledge my relative success. Thanks, appreciate it. btw, Obama is a complete failure and does not compare to buffoon in chief and further that opinion somehow reflects on my greatness and pretty obvious superiority and hopefully negates the split level thingy.

  78. 3b says:

    Times was always my go to paper. It’s editorial bent was always Liberal, no issues with that. But it always reported the news, not a version of the news to suit a narrative. Now it’s like a leftist tabloid. And the writing is atrocious! No more who, what , when where and how. I rip the articles apart in my Head or outlook at times. So bad. Paper of record my ass!

  79. homeboken says:

    PerthAmboy that post reads like you let an AI machine read the NYT for the last 5 years and then let it write its own article.

  80. Libturd says:

    Timesbot!

  81. leftwing says:

    Interesting article with flow options and key dates/events if one party does not concede post-election….

    If you hit a paywall on website article should be free on phone app…

    https://www.ft.com/content/c8767e22-a727-4a23-90bf-8d2844ca257a

  82. leftwing says:

    Spoiler…President Pelosi.

  83. Bystander says:

    We may not agree on politics but I think we can all agree that Giants OL continues to suck b#lls.

  84. Juice Box says:

    Left – it will come close because many people who can vote won’t bother.Voting age population is something like 250 million. Turnout in 2016 was about 138 million. That leaves 112 million that could care less. I suspect this time around because of mail in ballots and the potential for another Covid-19 surge, Voting turnout will be low. Many of those Mail in ballots will be tossed in the garbage with the junk mail, and people won’t bother to stand in line for perhaps hours to vote in person.

  85. leftwing says:

    agree

  86. Libturd says:

    We’ll see. Trump hatred is strong in 2020. Is is stronger than Trump loyalty? I think it is. Three bottles worth of think.

  87. Juice Box says:

    Lib – you do know the voter apathy I speak of is greater on the left, they should win this hands down they have the numbers by a wide margin but they just don’t vote.

    Case in point Primary turnout in NY State was just 5 percent this year. In many red states it was 45%.

  88. Juice box says:

    Re: Who is going to pay for NJ Transit Rail?

    They got a bailout already from the feds to keep the now empty trains running late.

    If WFH continues they will need another bailout next year.

  89. Phoenix says:

    So glad football is back. Totally enjoyed watching the games over the last couple of days.

  90. D-FENS says:

    I’m telling you…Democrats are fcuking capablenof anything. I would not be surprised if they slip sleepy Joe a glass of ensure loaded with the rona virus just so they can have Kamala at the top of the ticket.

  91. Fast Eddie says:

    perth amboy knows,

    Man, that was awesome! Tell us more!

  92. juice box says:

    University of Pitt develops new treatment drug Ab8 for Covid-19, no human trials yet though.

    https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/pitt-scientists-discover-tiny-antibody-component-highly-effective-preventing-and-treating-sars

  93. leftwing says:

    “More sightings of the blimp aka UFO…”

    How the fcuk hard is it to hold a phone camera steady.

  94. grim says:

    You can see the display on the side of the blimp scrolling.

  95. leftwing says:

    Just remember…each of those idiots who stopped, jammed up traffic, posted their “UFO” sighting, and especially the ones like the chick who insists it happens every time she’s pregnant……..

    Their vote counts just as much as yours.

    Thank you Dems.

  96. grim says:

    Awful to say, but what’s California owe in carbon taxes now?

    2018 fires were equivalent to a full year of electrical usage by the state, for comparison, this is a tremendous amount of greenhouse gas release.

    The largest state in the country, by far, equivalent of doubling their energy use.

  97. ExEssex says:

    This summer has seen more fires, more heat, more storms — all of it making life increasingly untenable in larger areas of the nation. Already, droughts regularly threaten food crops across the West, while destructive floods inundate towns and fields from the Dakotas to Maryland, collapsing dams in Michigan and raising the shorelines of the Great Lakes. Rising seas and increasingly violent hurricanes are making thousands of miles of American shoreline nearly uninhabitable. As California burned, Hurricane Laura pounded the Louisiana coast with 150-mile-an-hour winds, killing at least 25 people; it was the 12th named storm to form by that point in 2020, another record. Phoenix, meanwhile, endured 53 days of 110-degree heat — 20 more days than the previous record.

    NYTimes

  98. 1987 Condo says:

    Chamath om CNBC talking about his investment in OpenDoor..

    https://www.opendoor.com/

  99. Juice Box says:

    Call me craszy but it’s as if water vapor is a better measurement of climate change than Co2.

  100. homeboken says:

    Yesterday seems like it was “Climate Day” for the DNC.

    Anyone else find it more than a touch ironic that Joe Biden, with his collective 47 years in government, is aiming the blame at Trump with his less than 4?

    Also of note – Bide/Tapper interview, when pressed why the Obama administration didn’t renegotiate NAFTA, Biden’s response “we had a republican congress that wouldn’t work with us.”

    Remind me – The congress that approved the USMCA last year and also ran a thin issue impeachment, what party were they?

    A guy that basically admits – Hey look, I can really only get things done if my side controls everything, doesn’t exactly inspire me to vote for him.

  101. D-FENS says:

    To make up for it, Governor Newsom will be signing an executive order requiring that everyone now purchase electric vehicles and simultaneously charge them in-between rolling blackouts while the smoke clouds block out the sun rendering solar panels worthless.

    grim says:
    September 15, 2020 at 8:03 am
    Awful to say, but what’s California owe in carbon taxes now?

    2018 fires were equivalent to a full year of electrical usage by the state, for comparison, this is a tremendous amount of greenhouse gas release.

    The largest state in the country, by far, equivalent of doubling their energy use.

  102. Juice Box says:

    Open door? Are people really buying homes without stepping foot in them? The largest purchase you will ever make and you are going to do it over an App?

  103. Chicago says:

    “The aliens from the ufo sighting in new jersey landing to try the new pumpkin spice coffee at wawa”

  104. Chicago says:

    Newsom strikes me as aging fratboy. Terrible voice. It’s like he’s spent too many years speaking an octave lower than he should and his vocal chords are permanently strained.

    How did he make his money?

  105. leftwing says:

    “A guy that basically admits – Hey look, I can really only get things done if my side controls everything, doesn’t exactly inspire me to vote for him.”

    And then g0d bless us if he gets both houses and the Presidency, what he pushes through will most certainly NOT be the equivalent of rolling back NAFTA…..

    Me guess…..the twelfth (?) letter in the LGBTQxxxxxx universe will get some law making them much more comfortable whipping out their junk somewhere…..

  106. Chicago says:

    You saw this?

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/youtuber-livestreams-himself-taking-poop-on-nancy-pelosis-driveway/

    leftwing says:
    September 14, 2020 at 9:58 pm
    Spoiler…President Pelosi.

  107. ExEssex says:

    “The virus is so easily transmissible you wouldn’t believe it”.
    President Dumbass to “a reporter” while lying to the rest of the Country.

  108. Chicago says:

    Wake me up when September ends

    ExEssex says:
    September 14, 2020 at 3:08 pm
    November can’t come quick enough.

  109. Chicago says:

    Democrats will source some novichok

    D-FENS says:
    September 15, 2020 at 6:21 am
    I’m telling you…Democrats are fcuking capablenof anything. I would not be surprised if they slip sleepy Joe a glass of ensure loaded with the rona virus just so they can have Kamala at the top of the ticket.

  110. ExEssex says:

    America’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic has been “shocking” and “unbelievable,” with matters made much worse by “terrible leadership,” said Bill and Melinda Gates in a series of interviews this week. The couple condemned the United States for bungling its pandemic response. They criticized not only the Trump administration for its inaction, but also national bodies like the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for making key errors over the past year.

    “You know, this has been a mismanaged situation every step of the way,” Bill Gates told Stat News. “It’s shocking. It’s unbelievable — the fact that we would be among the worst in the world.”

  111. Juice Box says:

    Essex – When that call was made with Woodward it was two days after Trump was acquitted, the Dems were busy gnashing their teeth down to the bones and calling his Ban on flights from China Wacist and we should all go to Chinatown in SanFran and NY for dinner. There were 11 confirmed cases at the time, that day Trump took a call from President Xi of China to talk about the virus, and then later he talked to Woodward. It is an important distinction here. He was told one thing by Xi and he told Woodward the opposite based on intel he had, the conversation with Woodward was about China because we banned flights the week before and we only had 11 cases so the virus was though to be contained at the time.

    Little did we know but based on DNA sampling we found out most US cases came from Europe and then Trump put in the Travel Ban from Europe a month later.

    It’s ok to Blame Trump but the fact is the allot of other countries are to blame here too, there was panic when Trump issued the European Flight ban. You only need to read the headlines of the Washington Post on March 14th to know that.

    Could things have been done better? Yes absolutely. With Hindsight we know that to be true. Should Trump have panicked the country and ordered a lock-down? He did not have the authority to do so, it is the states that have those rights.

    But look all is fair in love and war and politics. What is next are we going to blame Trump for not enough manufacturing of PPE? That manufacturing left the USA a long time ago, and only a few politicians around today are responsible, one if them is Joe Biden.

  112. Libturd says:

    Juice.

    That reads like a list of manufactured excuses. Every time Trump fcuks up, it’s the state’s fault.

    You do know that he is still holding rallies mainly attended by maskless/selfish idiots? I suppose it’s the state’s fault too for allowing these rallies to occur? Even today, he doesn’t care. Don’t give me any of this Democrat bullsh1t. It’s just a lame excuse and a complete and utter failure in leadership.

    It doesn’t matter though. He’ll be reduced to having been the worst president ever in just a few more weeks.

  113. Libturd says:

    “Phoenix, meanwhile, endured 53 days of 110-degree heat — 20 more days than the previous record.”

    I suppose they should have trimmed back all of that cacti?

  114. Libturd says:

    Hurricane Teddy is lined up to absolutely reduce Bermuda to a Haiti. Let’s all pray she changes course or it’s going to be an absolute disaster.

  115. Juice Box says:

    Lib – I am not making excuses, just pointing out there is blame to be shared, based upon facts as reported, by Woodward himself.

    For example the PPE stockpile being depleted and not replenished, the very reason why we were told not to hoard N95 masks early on is becuase there was not enough stored for emergencies.

    Rated true by the multiple sources, he is a decent breakdown from April when the PPE shortage became critical.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/03/fact-check-did-obama-administration-deplete-n-95-mask-stockpile/5114319002/

  116. Juice Box says:

    Lib – Bermuda wants you! Many of the islands must be desperately poor by now with no tourists for 6 months do to lock-down.

  117. Libturd says:

    But there was no will to ramp up production either. I remember seeing the largest domestic mask manufacturer say that he would not purchase the necessary additional equipment to ramp up production as the federal government would not provide him any guarantees or assistance and he would surely get eaten alive by the imports once Covid calmed down in Asia.

    There was no political will to fight this thing here. The job of the POTUS is to lead the country. Instead, he’s spent his entire four years tweeting hate at the media and the Dems instead of leading this country.

    When Asian countries were closing borders, installing tracing software on phones and mandating quarantines, this president was pretending it wouldn’t spread and absolutely politicizing masks. I give him credit, he did have Berk’s make a flow chart!
    Sorry Juice. He fukced this one up royally. Praise our medical experts for keeping our fatality rate so low. If not for them, this would have been an absolute bloodbath.

    Can’t wait for Biden to place into law his mask mandate as the entire right chooses to not follow it. Thanks Trump.

  118. Libturd says:

    Juice, on the countries suffering without their tourist economy decimated, I heard it’s absolutely the BEST time to travel there. Most of these countries (if not all of them) have lower rates of Covid than here and the locals are bending over backwards for tourists. You can pretty much negotiate your own rates. Want to rent a wave runner, offer $10 an hour, they’ll take it. They’ll take anything.

    I’m hoping real estate drops a bit from this down in CR. So far, it’s holding on. Covid has really hurt their economy, but tourism is only about 5% of their economy. Things ares slowly opening up down there. If there was an airline that required testing prior to flying, I would head down there in a minute to pick up some land.

  119. Juice Box says:

    Lib – re: no will to ramp up production. Back to early April reporting again,story about the mask manufacturer in Texas Prestige Ameritech, Here is the interview from NPR.

    He nearly went bankrupt after H1N1 in 2009, all business dried up because they were underbid, buyers chose 3M and others who supply from their factories in Asia.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/06/828303817/surgical-mask-manufacturer-in-texas-is-inundated-with-requests

    Congress is the blame, for the stockpile issues they can attach “made in america” to any spending.

  120. homeboken says:

    Can’t wait for Biden to place into law his mask mandate as the entire right chooses to not follow it. Thanks Trump.

    It’s been a while since my civics class but this seems like a real stretch of the power granted to the executive branch.

  121. leftwing says:

    “Can’t wait for Biden to place into law his mask mandate as the entire right chooses to not follow it.”

    Me too. Both houses Red in 2022.

  122. leftwing says:

    “Chamath om CNBC talking about his investment in OpenDoor..”

    Saw that. Quick 0.80 on 2500 shares in 19 minutes, pre-market to open….g0d I love retail…..knew I should have done more…….may venture back in this morning if she starts bumping off of 14.40…..

  123. JCer says:

    Lib Trump is a moron and handled Covid with all of the grace he normally conducts himself with. That being said this is the United States, the federal government cannot installing tracking software nor could they legally mandate a quarantine. Honestly a democrat administration would have looked VERY, VERY similar in real action albeit without the puzzling crazy messages from an orange lunatic. Maybe they would have tried to quarantine or put in a mask mandate but of course without going through clowngress and the republican states would have fought it and the courts would have blocked it with an injunction and the courts would have invalidated the orders. No one would listen to the mandates either, we saw how well it worked here. Fact remains we have the worst death rate in the world in NJ, closely followed by NY please do tell how the democratic party would have done so well on a federal level? There policies on a local level were disastrous, to the point where literally doing nothing might have been better. We failed at quarantine, we failed at treatment, and we put mandates in which put the most vulnerable population at high risk.

  124. leftwing says:

    Guys I said it when I was getting filleted on here in mid-March for getting take out sushi in FL….

    We keep using the words “quarantine”, “lockdown”, and “shelter in place”. What the US/States did was nothing of the sort. Not even close. What we – including NY/NJ – may sound good to some people’s ears but it did sh1t.

    Letting people out for ‘essential services’ however defined defeats the entire purpose of an actual quarantine or lockdown….we either needed a true quarantine of everyone, or at least of the at risk population if we wanted fewer deaths. Or accept the death toll. Those were the choices.

    Biology 101. All the political posturing in the world will not change those facts.

    The virus was eliminated in Wuhan…go back to the headlines of the time. The Chinese were welding people’s doors shut from the outside.

    P*ssy feel good words with inadequate action – basically the definition of the our political leaders in the last decades in most matters including this virus, as exemplified by the preening fools of the tri-State area more concerned with the telegenics of their daily briefings – is not only ineffective but very dangerous….

  125. ExEssex says:

    On Sept. 3, Trump tweeted, “Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York has the worst record on death and China Virus. 11,000 people alone died in Nursing Homes because of his incompetence!” Trump apparently doesn’t realize he’s the president of New York as well. Bob Woodward, by the way, confirmed that Trump’s much-hyped travel restriction against China prompted tens of thousands of travelers simply to return from China to the U.S., by way of Europe, through New York’s JFK airport, sparking the massive New York infection rate early in the pandemic. Turns out, that was the president’s doing.

  126. ExEssex says:

    States with the highest poverty rates: 1) Mississippi, 2) New Mexico, 3) Louisiana, 4) West Virginia and 5) Alabama. What do all those states have in common? All except New Mexico are solidly Republican and delivered their electoral votes to Trump. Three of the five are controlled by Republican governors.
    The least educated states: 1) Mississippi, 2) West Virginia, 3) Louisiana, 4) Arkansas and 5) Alabama. All Trump states, and all but one controlled by Republican governors.
    States with the most violent crime per 100,000 residents: 1) Alaska, 2) New Mexico, 3) Tennessee, 4) Arkansas and 5) Nevada. Three of the five are Trump states governed by Republicans.
    States most dependent on federal handouts (the “taker” states): 1) Nevada, 2) Kentucky, 3) Mississippi, 4) West Virginia and 5) Montana. Are you catching the pattern here? Trump carried four out of five in 2016, and three have Republican governors.
    So these are mostly Trump-Republican states, and if he wants all this on his record, I’m OK with that. After all, he’s rejecting wealthier, better-educated states as “Democrat-run.” It’s also germane to note that among large cities, the two “most dangerous” cities in America per 100,000 residents are Springfield, Missouri and Spokane, Washington — each run by a Republican mayor.

  127. chicagofinance says:

    Client with question….. anyone have an answer? I’m thinking no.

    I have 2 lenders (this one and TD bank) should I do the [MORTGAGE] application for both?
    I am afraid they can ruin my score if I get 2 people running my social security

  128. chicagofinance says:

    Also, can I throw a mortgage broker quote up here and get critiques?

  129. ExEssex says:

    Why is Trump so afraid to take responsibility himself? The answer is obvious: Because he’s a coward and a shirker, vastly out of his depth, painfully outmatched and fatally incapable of handling a crisis of any magnitude, much less this one. When the going got tough, Brave Sir Donald ran away, stealing credit for the upside while blaming everyone else for the downside. The impact of his ineptitude is worsened, by the way, though his grisly fascination with stirring up chaos all around him, not unlike a malicious tween boy who shakes up an ant farm just to watch the ants freak out. Anyone who buys his “I don’t want to create a panic” nonsense is dumber than he is.

  130. Juice Box says:

    Essex – Take responsibility ? You mean like saying ” my deepest apologies” in front of the cameras and as soon as the lights go off exist stage right and onto the next narrative of the day?

    Is that really taking responsibility or just acting? Unless there is an election in a few months it costs nothing for any elected politician to stand up before the cameras look solemn and and then take full responsibility for anything and everything.

    My theory for Trump is because he is not a politican and does not act like one and more importantly is from the private sector, admitting you screwed up can have real consequences lawsuits, firings, bonuses and the like. Anyone who spent time working in the private sector knows that, and for Trump it’s way way worse as the media firestorm erupts on every tweet.

    Joe Biden blames the Republicans for everything these days. He cannot run on his record, only on blame Trump and the Republicans. Look look over there they are way worse than me, see see him he is a wacist, he is evil, he is a n*azi. No No No don’t look over here, we are angels no wait we are even better saviors even if we do not believe in them!

  131. 1987 Condo says:

    “Open door? Are people really buying homes without stepping foot in them? The largest purchase you will ever make and you are going to do it over an App?”

    Interestingly, OpenDoor seems only talks about SELLING your house by the app…..

  132. SomeOne says:

    Breonna Taylor’s family reached a settlement with the city (a few million dollars, highest police related settlement in Louisville’s history).

    The cop has multiple allegations of sexual harassment and assault. Multiple women have accused Hankison of preying on them at bars under the guise of “driving them home safely.”

    The cop is free and can join some other police department easily.

  133. chicagofinance says:

    He doesn’t have to Tweet

    Juice Box says:
    September 15, 2020 at 11:37 am
    Anyone who spent time working in the private sector knows that, and for Trump it’s way way worse as the media firestorm erupts on every tweet.

  134. Phoenix says:

    “Fact remains we have the worst death rate in the world in NJ, closely followed by NY”

    It hit here first before the rest of the country. My guess is just like 9/11 (were there was a warning about pilots that did not want to land) that those high up the food chain knew about this and did not warn anyone. JCAHO was so busy worrying about scotch tape on walls and never prepared for pandemics either. Hospitals in the northeast had to improvise on the fly with an unknown pathogen. It was hell. Just look how difficult a time it is with mommies and kids in a school with just one Covid kid.
    We set the standard/came up with the plans/methods that the rest of the USA was to follow- it’s strange, but it was like the rest of the country thought you needed NJ DNA in order to get this, that we lied, that it is not real, who the hell knows? Had the things we implemented been immediately acted on by other states this would have been much better-nope, they ignored what we did like petulant children and so it spread.

    There is no doubt that masks work. That is why everyone is wearing one and the rate has decreased.

    NJ is number 1. Most dense state in the nation. Of course it will be worse than Wyoming. It does not take a brainiac to figure that out.

    It’s manageable now. But if it wants you-and likes you, ventilation becomes a big problem. I warn you, if you look like a wildebeest it will find you more attractive, but even if not no guarantees. It can attack a gym rat as well. Roll the dice all you want.

  135. Walking says:

    Essex , I think you left out orange county ny. Ranked as having some of the poorest communities in UsA. specially once the chicken farm was sold to a schill buyer.

  136. Juice Box says:

    Chi – the argument would be tweeting got him elected in the first place.

    Tweeting is one of the many reasons why he is so disliked now, as we all know Trump is vain, has no filter and really cannot help himself. He reminds me a bit of Silvio Berlusconi without the Bunga Bunga room.

  137. Dink says:

    “I have 2 lenders (this one and TD bank) should I do the [MORTGAGE] application for both? I am afraid they can ruin my score if I get 2 people running my social security”

    We just went through a refinance and were told that it wont hurt score as the credit agencies understand its rate shopping. I did check my credit scores before and after and I did not take a hit.

  138. Juice Box says:

    MYFICO – says these are treated as a single inquiry and will have little impact on your credit scores as long as they are within 30 days of each.

    https://www.myfico.com/credit-education/credit-reports/credit-checks-and-inquiries#:~:text=Looking%20for%20new%20credit%20can,impact%20on%20your%20credit%20scores.

  139. TuesdayBrainTeaser forBoredPosters says:

    Let’s have a brainstorming session.

    We have to concede 3 points. 1- The wealthy don’t want to participate any more, they want to own and run it directly (greed using ideology) 2- The North won the physical civil war, but the Confederacy won the cultural war ( that is why we have BLM 100 yrs later) 3- The boomers being morally and intellectually bankrupt and at end of their lives will stoke up the fire, instead of putting it out.

    1 – No one concedes by 1/20/21. There are 2 swearing in ceremony, Biden gets the nuke football.
    2- Certain southern governors, starting with TX & FL refuse to recognize Biden. Fox goes crazy with the new Republican States of America talk.

    Questions,

    Internal Economics, obviously what matter is the money cities of NY, Boston, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, San Francisco and LA, everyone else does not count.
    1) Who does Wall Street goes for and what do they do about it?
    2) Who does Silicon goes for and what do they do about it?

    External Economics, 1)What happens to USD? Gold? S&P?

    Internal Social. Who is the first governor to deputize a non-US militia? Who will be first to line up people against the wall and shoot?

    Foreign policy. How many days before Taiwan is taken down? Before Middle East is on Fire?

    Future, five years down the road. How many countries are created from the USA? what is their present states? How are they doing economically, socially, foreign policy wise – meaning are they more like a stable Canada or more like a hellhole Honduras?

    Odds & Ends? -Fill in here your ideas.

  140. Walking says:

    Lots of banks , ie WELLS Sandanter have online quotes which get pretty close, within a few hundred dollars of what your closing is and monthly payment . Just in case you want to run some numbers I think I did a refi and closing was 5600 quote was 5500

  141. chicagofinance says:

    #1 thank you all already…

    OK…. Am I reading this correctly?

    Loan $1M – jumbo 30Y fixed no points 3.25%

    Lender Fee 1,290
    Appraisal Fee 770
    Appraisal Fee (add’l report) 770
    Appraisal Rush Fee 200
    Credit Report 12.75
    Undisclosed Debt 31.25
    1 year insurance premium 1,800
    Title Fee 1,650
    Owner’s Title Insurance 786
    Lender’s Title Insurance 3,481
    Recording Fee 485

    State of CT

  142. homeboken says:

    Tuesday – Let’s try it from another angle.

    In your opinion, How many states or EC votes does a candidate need to win in order to make any non-concession by the opponent worthless?

    On Nov 4 –
    If Biden wins 350 EC votes, is it over? If Trump wins 350 EC votes?

    Or do we keep counting and litigating, for as long it takes, until the “right candidate” wins?

  143. Libturd says:

    That’s how it’s supposed to work Chi. Even if you do get dinged twice on the credit report, unless client is on the edge of a category (excellent to good or good to fair), the hit is around ten points (at best) and evaporates in 6 months. Believe me, I know. I have more credit cards than the Dukes.

    https://bit.ly/33yJopJ

  144. Libturd says:

    So a draft is okay, but making people wear masks is a real stretch of the power granted to the executive branch.

    The politics in this country are really now completely fukced. And the people who defend this nonsense behavior are worse. The red team is running around making believe they are Wolverines in a reenactment of Red Dawn and the blue team thinks they are living in Wakanda.

  145. Libturd says:

    There are some fees in there I have never paid. There must some unique circumstance around the loan. Then again, at the end of the day, what’s a couple more thousand on a million dollar loan?

  146. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    It hit here first before the rest of the country. My guess is just like 9/11 (were there was a warning about pilots that did not want to land) that those high up the food chain knew about this and did not warn anyone. JCAHO was so busy worrying about scotch tape on walls and never prepared for pandemics either. Hospitals in the northeast had to improvise on the fly with an unknown pathogen. It was hell. Just look how difficult a time it is with mommies and kids in a school with just one Covid kid.
    We set the standard/came up with the plans/methods that the rest of the USA was to follow- it’s strange, but it was like the rest of the country thought you needed NJ DNA in order to get this, that we lied, that it is not real, who the hell knows? Had the things we implemented been immediately acted on by other states this would have been much better-nope, they ignored what we did like petulant children and so it spread.

    There is no doubt that masks work. That is why everyone is wearing one and the rate has decreased.

    NJ is number 1. Most dense state in the nation. Of course it will be worse than Wyoming. It does not take a brainiac to figure that out.

    It’s manageable now. But if it wants you-and likes you, ventilation becomes a big problem. I warn you, if you look like a wildebeest it will find you more attractive, but even if not no guarantees. It can attack a gym rat as well. Roll the dice all you want.

    A few things. Yes, based on density and the fact that we got hit first, I would still expect our numbers to be worse. It’s actually better analyzed on a county basis. That being said, California still did better than us. Climate and density played in their favor there.

    Fact remains, we still fared worse than places like Italy, that got hit even before we did and has an older population. Our numbers would look on par with the rest of Europe had Cuomo and Murphy not been so stupid and continually send positive patients in to kill the entire nursing home while diverting PPE away from them. Those were very very poor management decisions, and they are likely the most responsible for the wide disparity in numbers when comparing us to any other state or country.

  147. Phoenix says:

    “So a draft is okay, but making people wear masks is a real stretch of the power granted to the executive branch.”

    Approximately 1/2 of the U.S. population is not subject to a draft at all, not including those with heel spurs and their ilk.

  148. JCer says:

    lib, a war is a totally different animal than a “pandemic” with a disease that barely has a 1% fatality rate. I for one think executive powers need to be curbed, the president is not a king. Also on the record a mask mandate won’t do sh*t, half the people wear them improperly, don’t follow the rule or are just outright stupid. There still are a large number of otherwise intelligent people who think the virus is a hoax or somehow being exaggerated and not just red state idiots.

    3.25% doesn’t seem great in this climate, with lenders fees etc the rate should be below 3% on a 30. The rest seems pretty standard but what kind of sh*tty insurance are they getting for 1800 per year on a home presumably worth 1.2m? My policy is like 4k and that is with the alarm system credit with smoke, heat and flood detectors, and a credit for having a watercop system not including the umbrella and the listed policy for valuables. I couldn’t get a quote of less than 3k, my apartment in a jersey city high rise had a $1200 annual premium for contents and interior fittings.

  149. JCer says:

    BRT, agreed our numbers are horrible because we took a very bad approach with nursing homes.

  150. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    September 15, 2020 at 9:40 am

    “Can’t wait for Biden to place into law his mask mandate… ”

    Pining for big government and a nanny state — how pathetic. You must’ve been euphoric when Bloomberg implemented his ban on 16oz soft drinks in NYC. And you probably fainted when the supreme court upheld the obamacare mandate that everyone must purchase health insurance. Once you’ve bought in to the core tenets of modern day Dems (below), there’s no limit to BIG Govt and to the freedoms you’ll give away in return for a false sense of safety and security…
    – life is hard
    – you can’t make it on your own
    – you need govt to help you

  151. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    In a lot of respects, you probably couldn’t think of a worse policy towards nursing homes. Cuomo and Murphy literally maximized the carnage.

  152. Phoenix says:

    “Also on the record a mask mandate won’t do sh*t, half the people wear them improperly, don’t follow the rule or are just outright stupid”

    Do away with the mandate and 50 percent will take them off immediately. Just watch what happens then.

    Without a doubt this will restart quickly. It’s like embers in a fire pit.

    And just because you don’t die does not mean you don’t have lasting permanent complications, plus the cost of medical bills.

    A lack of common sense, arrogance, and political stupidity is the problem. Just wait till a really lethal pathogen hits.

  153. D-FENS says:

    @TheLastRefuge2
    ·
    21m
    Well, that might be part of the problem…. [Think about it]

    Quote Tweet

    MaryKell
    @MaryKellMi
    · 24m
    Replying to @TheLastRefuge2
    I don’t know one Jewish person that agrees with Netanyahu!

  154. D-FENS says:

    @cvpayne
    ·
    1h
    What is occurring at the White House right now is nothing short of remarkable. Israel gaining more recognition in the Middle East moved the region closer to peace. Heretofore one of the the most elusive quagmires in geopolitics.

    They said it could not be done.
    Its Happening.

  155. D-FENS says:

    https://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_drft.html

    The Executive doesn’t have power to do either. Congress has the power to do one of them.

    Libturd says:
    September 15, 2020 at 1:08 pm
    So a draft is okay, but making people wear masks is a real stretch of the power granted to the executive branch.

  156. Libturd says:

    Bahrain? Let me know when Trump solves the Palestinian situation rather than make it worse through the embassy bullying?

    Enjoy the circus.

  157. Libturd says:

    What this peace is really about. UAE helped seal their purchase of sophisticated American weapons: F-35 fighter jets, Reaper drones and EA-18G Growler jets. Analysts say Bahrain’s move could help that country secure air defense systems from the United States.

    Hmmmm.

  158. D-FENS says:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-emirates-usa-saudi/israeli-airliner-to-abu-dhabi-enters-saudi-arabia-airspace-idUSKBN25R13K?il=0

    Israeli airliner to Abu Dhabi enters Saudi Arabia airspace
    By Reuters Staff

    DUBAI (Reuters) – The El Al flight carrying the U.S. and Israeli delegations to the United Arab Emirates entered Saudi Arabian airspace on Monday, the first known such action by an Israeli commercial airline.

    Libturd says:
    September 15, 2020 at 2:49 pm
    Bahrain? Let me know when Trump solves the Palestinian situation rather than make it worse through the embassy bullying?

    Enjoy the circus.

  159. Libturd says:

    Woo Hoo. Lest I remind you that the government of Saudi Arabia and the citizens have two entirely different views of the Middle East. As the citizens were flying planes into our buildings. Their government was arranging with our Republican President travel for Bin Laden’s relatives while it was banned for American citizens.

    Enjoy the circus.

  160. ExEssex says:

    I’ve never thought the Saudi’s cared too much for us, but was Bin Laden a blacksheep or a scapegoat. The US needs to get it’s collective sh*t together. The rest of the world, starting with Putin, would like nothing better than to see his former adversary ground into dust by their own internal friction. For Putin and for Trump it is not enough that you succeed, but your enemies must fail.

  161. Juice Box says:

    Anyone notice the haze last night? I thought it was from the West Coast fires.

    https://www.nj.com/weather/2020/09/heres-why-the-sun-looks-more-like-the-moon-at-sunrise-and-sunset-in-nj.html

  162. Phoenix says:

    Tech companies are starting to let their employees work from anywhere — as long as they take a lower salary.

    Business Insider. No surprise.

  163. ExEssex says:

    I took a paycut with my current gig. No question it was significant, until you factor three things….travel wear and tear/gasoline/maintenance…..Food cost…..intangibles. Dude if you could buy a place with your dream gal/guy in flyover Country for $200k and make say $30k less….so be it! You just won. Almost as if this might return a little life to the rustbelt. Also the intangibles? Having lunch with my wife. Not rushing off the 20 mile or more for most people commute. Commuting is crap. Best job I ever had I walked to work for 3 1/2 years. Never better.

  164. 3b says:

    Phoenix: I saw that, and it makes perfect sense. Coasts are going to learn how to be competitive.

  165. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    This is quickly becoming the standard model to get the schools back open:

    https://planetprinceton.com/2020/09/15/princeton-public-schools-teachers-and-staff-told-they-can-take-an-unpaid-leave-of-absence-for-the-school-year-due-to-covid-19-concerns/?fbclid=IwAR2fNrf-hE4VJWkYKuqOhGWVEU2S7jhDeiGdSMJjCEWagRHupc1OTgU8KRQ

    You can take a leave of absence or come to work. What you can’t do is expect the entire district to remain hamstrung because you want your salary as well. You know those 800 applicants that always wanted to get the 1 open social studies or English position available in district, they are still out there.

  166. Fast Eddie says:

    Wow, what a day…

    Pitt researchers discover antibody that could be key in covid cure and there’s a major mid east agreement.

    Big wins for Trump!

  167. grim says:

    We keep using the words “quarantine”, “lockdown”, and “shelter in place”. What the US/States did was nothing of the sort. Not even close. What we – including NY/NJ – may sound good to some people’s ears but it did sh1t.

    It was shit, but did it matter, we were doomed from the start.

    What we’re starting to see is that the wildfire spread in covid early on may have been due to asymptomatic healthcare professionals infecting their patients.

    This is the most plausible scenario for how many people with co-morbidities were exposed early on. As well as NY/NY’s higher death rates – this was driven by exposure prior to additional safety measures being put in place across doctors offices and hospitals. Sick people seeking medical attention for non-covid issues co-mingling with sick people seeking medical attention for flu symptoms. Think about it. Pens, clip boards, door knobs, no social distancing, credit card keypads, doctors, nurses, receptionists without masks, waiting rooms, triage rooms, etc etc etc.

    This is of course, a nightmare scenario, as people don’t expect to be exposed as a part of seeking medical care. What happened in NJ nursing homes happened across NJ doctors offices and hospitals early on as well. Only that it was far more obvious in nursing homes.

  168. leftwing says:

    “Anyone notice the haze last night? I thought it was from the West Coast fires.”

    Family in WI sent me photos last night late afternoon. Looked downright eclipse-ish.

  169. leftwing says:

    In preparation for November for those who forget history rhymes…..

    Take a look at the 1876 elections…..Hayes won by one electoral vote with 20 from four states contested among widespread [proven] claims of voter fraud. As you read the article it is very easy to substitute current actors in the place of historical names…

    I post the link to emphasize November is not our first rodeo so this one quote, although not on the main point, is unavoidable…LOL.

    “In Florida (with 4 electoral votes), Louisiana (with 8), and South Carolina (with 7), reported returns favored Tilden, but election results in each state were marked by electoral fraud and threats of violence against Republican voters. The worst case was in South Carolina, where an impossible 101 percent of all eligible voters in the state had their votes counted.[15] One of the points of contention revolved around the design of ballots. At the time, parties would print ballots or “tickets” to enable voters to support them in the open ballots. To aid illiterate voters the parties would print symbols on the tickets. In this election, many Democratic ballots were printed with the Republican symbol, Abraham Lincoln, on them.[16] The Republican-dominated state electoral commissions subsequently disallowed enough Democratic votes to award their electoral votes to Hayes.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1876_United_States_presidential_election

  170. leftwing says:

    Also for the November election bookmark this prediction…

    In a close election the key to victory will reside at the state electoral level, especially in swing States with split gubernatorial/legislatures like PA (D gov/R legislature).

    Absent a landslide I have a feeling we will get a PhD in electoral politics. Assuming everyone here has an understanding of how the Electoral College actually works, here is where the real action will take place. Its terms effectively decided 2000.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Act

  171. Walking says:

    I noticed the suns haze this morning at 6:30am. Looked Strange, more moon like.

  172. chicagofinance says:

    leftwing says:
    September 15, 2020 at 5:32 pm
    “Anyone notice the haze last night? I thought it was from the West Coast fires.”
    Family in WI sent me photos last night late afternoon. Looked downright eclipse-ish.

    Purple haze all in my eyes,
    Don’t know if it’s day or night
    You got me blowin’, blowin’ my mind
    Is it tomorrow or just the end of time?

  173. Juice Box says:

    How many other states had problems with their unemployment claims?

    Now they want $200 million over five or six years,to replace the 40 year old COBOL system? Director Asaro-Angelo claims no program can react to the infinite variables involved in an unemployment claim.

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/09/fixing-unemployment-mess-must-come-from-the-feds-nj-labor-chief-says.html

  174. D-FENS says:

    In preparation for November buy a battle rifle.

  175. D-FENS says:

    It’s exhausting. Lying sacks of sh1t

    https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1305547377437224960?s=21

    2 months after top Pentagon officials vowed to get to the bottom of whether the Russian gov’t bribed Taliban to kill US service members, the commander in the region says a review of the intel has not been able to corroborate the existence of such a program

  176. homeboken says:

    I ask the same question as earlier, in hopes someone will respond.

    If, on election night, one candidate gets 350 EC votes and the popular vote – will you push for your candidate to conceede?

    Reasonably smart people here. Statistics, probability and large sample sizes. If one candidate has 80 more EC votes than needed and the popular vote. Can we stop counting and just admit defeat?

    Or do we keep counting and finding ballots into late December, with the hopes that somehow, in the right district, a truckload of votes, all cast for the same guy, magically show up and turn the result?

  177. NJGator says:

    Blue Ribbon Teacher – In our district, the teachers requesting leave did so for varying amounts of time. Some took leave for the full year, others took only until Christmas or Thanksgiving or in one case only until Oct 1. I guess the shorter leaves were to leave the option open to return to work in the case the district switched to all virtual….also the short leaves made it much more difficult for the district to fill the position with a competent leave replacement. We’re one of the few local districts that didn’t open full virtual, but we’re doing it with a large temp cast of rejects from other districts as well as kids with diplomas where the ink has barely dried and no real work experience.

  178. BRT says:

    Personally, I think requesting leave for 4 months is a very selfish move. Any situation that causes students to have a teacher switch causes all kinds or problems. In some cases (like pregnancy), it’s unavoidable. Here, it is. I think it should be the full year or nothing. We will not be returning to normal by Christmas. These same people are likely to request an additional leave midway through. However, I think districts are at a crossroad where they can’t honor short requests. But that being said, I’d rather my kids in the classroom of an inexperiened teacher than this talk through a screen crap

  179. Fabius Maximus says:

    Home,

    I follow this guy and I think this is how it drops. GOP Govs and houses refuse to certify throwing it to the house delegations. https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1305579432267124736

    I’m still holding that we get a 60% chance of a clean election.

  180. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lib/Gator,

    Looks like OAL are trying to flush the dockets as they are so backed up. They are trying to strongly suggest parties settle. There is a big threat of dismissal without Prejudice.

    I’m still trying to work out the implications. I think best case, if you cant find agreement, you refile and reset the clock. Worst Case, who knows. You mileage may vary!

  181. Fabius Maximus says:

    Its all the Dems Fault for not leading!
    https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1306046912227880965

    And you are worried about Joes performance in the debates if they happen.

  182. NJGator says:

    Fab – Our judge ordered that our case proceed to remote hearing. So we’re good.

    But yeah the dockets are gonna be completely backed up when you go five months with no in-person hearing and not requiring matters to be heard remotely without universal consent….which basically means that almost nothing moved, because every district and every family with a stay put placement all refused to consent. Then add in any new due process cases for kids who got crap services during COVID. I can’t imagine how big the backlog is now.

  183. NJGator says:

    BRT – Oh it’s totally selfish. And I’m sure was deliberate to make the positions more difficult to fill. Our district offered several positions to candidates and were turned down because those candidates accepted more stable positions in other districts.

  184. ExEssex says:

    Trump’s town hall …..yeeeeeesh
    D-e-l-u-s-i-o-n-a-l….

  185. Fabius Maximus says:

    This is funny.
    “Even Fox recognizes it was a disaster”
    https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1306063895539453954

    But what this tells us is that the debates if they happen, will need Harris and Joe to fact check in real time. Kaine had issues with Pence lying, I don’t see Kamala having the same issue.

  186. leftwing says:

    “If, on election night, one candidate gets 350 EC votes and the popular vote – will you push for your candidate to conceede?”

    No. With vote by mail election night results will not be definitive in swing states (and possibly even a handful of states not usually considered swing). Given the potential impact of mail-ins and the numerous nuances under regular conditions where electors’ ballots may be challenged either side would be foolish to concede until the Houses meet on Jan 6 to count the electors ballots.

    As a practical matter I even doubt if on election night any network will call a winner. Statistically those results come from analysis of the voting trend of ballots cast crossed with the makeup of existing districts not yet reporting and the remaining votes outstanding to be counted. Only one variable will be known, making it impossible for anything other than hard core Blue or Red states to be called since even the denominator (total votes pending to be counted) is large yet unknown.

    “I follow this guy and I think this is how it drops. GOP Govs and houses refuse to certify throwing it to the house delegations.”

    This is what I said above, watch the state electoral level…especially in split states (governor one party, legislature another).

    You may actually get two competing electoral slates, one D and one R, from certain States. Function of the House and Senate will be to accept or reject, but they have very limited investigative powers.

    If enough jurisdictions get knocked out the House votes for Pres, the Senate for VP. The vote is en bloc (by state, one vote per state) so despite the Dems controlling the House the vote for President would go to DJT along party lines in that scenario.

    It helps that Pence is VP (president of the Senate) so he will control the gavel during the elector count on Jan 6 although his powers in that role are intentionally limited since when the law was drafted it was foreseen that the sitting VP could have a vested interested including many times being the actual Presidential candidate.

    Buckle up buttercups.

  187. Juice Box says:

    1 million dollar bail each for the Lancaster rioters, none made bail. Seems the red necks in Pennsyltucky ain’t having any awakening.

  188. Juice Box says:

    Dems are already assuming State Courts and even the Supreme Court won’t weigh in again and stop 2nd or even 3rd vote recounts after an election has been certified.

    New Jersey changed the laws only two weeks ago on Mailed ballots to make them harder to challenge In court for tampering.

    We all know there is going to be voter fraud. I never really thought the land of the free and home of the brave would devolve into a third world election but here we are again history rhymes like 2000 when in Florida Bush won by 0.0009 percent margin on the first machine recount of votes and the Supreme Court stopped a second manual recount.

    Fun times which states are going to threaten to succeed this time? Texas has been itching for a while.

  189. Juice Box says:

    Re: We will not be returning to normal by Christmas

    Well in tradition of the blog might as well go full on doom.

    By Christmas Another 200,000 dead from Covid-19, election in recount chaos, Economy tanks, unemployment skyrockets again, housing Sales collapses, divorce skyrockets, suicide skyrockets, violence skyrockets.

    I feel like staying home and tuning out for a year to take a nice long nap, wake me up when 2022 arrives.

  190. grim says:

    People socially distance themselves more than usual in the winter, given the fact that the large majority will be remote, not sure what the tipping point for a bad winter will be. Thanksgiving? Christmas parties? Maybe.

    I hear Black Friday is basically cancelled this year. I know many retailers are prepping for a 100% online version in lieu of store discounts.

    Flu season? If everyone maintains the same covid posture, and gets a flu shot, flu season will be a non-starter this year.

    Election violence? Eh. Never bet on armageddon, it’s always a shitty bet.

    Foreclosures and evictions – the courts will grind to a halt and take 10 years to process them. How this manifests itself? Small landlords shave it off their retirement. Reits and big landlords write it off.

    Like I said before, standard of living goes down now. This aligns well with that, so it’s a comfortable prediction.

  191. grim says:

    If you thought Walmart was good at killing local business, behold, destroyer of worlds (and post offices).

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-16/amazon-plans-to-put-1-000-warehouses-in-neighborhoods?srnd=premium

  192. grim says:

    AT&T realized it was losing out by not monetizing robocalls?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-at-t-ceo-interview-exclusive-idUSKBN2663HK

  193. Grim says:

    China now saying that they have vaccinated hundreds of thousands (multiple hundreds) and are on-track to produce 100 million doses by EOY. Under emergency use.

    Trump has got to be fuming. #chinawinning #itsgoodtobeatotalitarian

  194. No One says:

    is a juice box the same thing as WAP, the thing Cardi B and all the kids are singing and dancing about? Where did American culture go? From Fred Astaire to this in 3 generations.

  195. ExEssex says:

    I’ve never listened to WAP i’ve actively avoided it.
    I’ve never watched a single Kardashian episode.
    I’ve never bought a Kanye West single.

    The very thin slice of culture is easy to ignore.

  196. ExEssex says:

    Most people are not active consumers of culture of any kind .
    Most people are passive consumers therefore they simply react
    when someone else’s ideas of art are pushed in their faces by
    a media desperate for eye balls.

  197. chicagofinance says:

    FabMax P0rn:

    Nearly 20 percent of Millennials and Gen Z in New York believe the Jews caused the Holocaust, according to a new survey released on Wednesday.

    The findings come from the first ever 50-state survey on the Holocaust knowledge of American Millennials and Gen Z, which was commissioned by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany.

    For instance, although there were more than 40,000 camps and ghettos during World War II, 58 percent of respondents in New York cannot name a single one.

    Additionally, 60 percent of respondents in New York do not know that six million Jews were killed during the Holocaust.

    “The results are both shocking and saddening and they underscore why we must act now while Holocaust survivors are still with us to voice their stories,” said Gideon Taylor, President of the Conference on Jewish Material Claim Against Germany.

    A total of 34 percent of respondents in New York believe the Holocaust happened but the number of Jews who died has been greatly exaggerated or believe the Holocaust is a myth and did not happen or are unsure.

    A shocking 28 percent of respondents in New York believe it is acceptable to hold neo-Nazi views, while 62 percent have never visited a Holocaust museum in the United States.

    At least 65 percent of respondents in New York believe Holocaust education should be compulsory in school, and 79 percent say it is important to keep teaching about the Holocaust, in part, so that it does not happen again.

    “We need to understand why we aren’t doing better in educating a younger generation about the Holocaust and the lessons of the past. This needs to serve as a wake-up call to us all, and as a road map of where government officials need to act,” Taylor added.

    Data was collected from 1,000 interviews nationwide and 200 interviews in each state with young adults aged 18 to 39 selected at random.

  198. Phoenix says:

    “1 million dollar bail each for the Lancaster rioters, none made bail. Seems the red necks in Pennsyltucky ain’t having any awakening.”

    And in Jersey starve your child, then glue them into the corner for 8 hours per day and get 5 months probation.

    How does one go through law school as a dolt, or are they just pathological and sadistic?

    https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/morris/police-fire/nj-couple-who-starved-children-inflicted-years-of-extreme-punishments-sentenced-to-probation/793229/

  199. Fast Eddie says:

    Okay, so I just read the lyrics to WAP. It seems like it goes against everything the metoo and BLM movement is railing against. I mean… what’s the purpose here? Is it entertainment? Some defiant message. I’m not even sure what to think.

  200. Phoenix says:

    “is a juice box the same thing as WAP”

    I see what you did there.

  201. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    I’ve given up trying to figure out that gender. Only thing that is consistent is that they like and are impressed with is money. And if you find one that is mentally stable you should hang onto it.

  202. Phoenix says:

    Amazon will be the post office of the future.

    Soon enough there will be corporate logos on your police officers, military and the American flag itself.

    You have to love the irony of cell phones with advertisements for less money. So those who have money will pay extra to not be annoyed, but those who really need to save are the ones that will be bombarded by the marketing infidels.

  203. chicagofinance says:

    leftwing says:
    September 16, 2020 at 12:13 am
    Buckle up buttercups.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGR-kD6TF0

  204. chicagofinance says:

    WAP is soulless garbage delivered by bankrupt robots…..if there is a joke in there, the joke is on them….

    Fast Eddie says:
    September 16, 2020 at 8:26 am
    Okay, so I just read the lyrics to WAP. It seems like it goes against everything the metoo and BLM movement is railing against. I mean… what’s the purpose here? Is it entertainment? Some defiant message. I’m not even sure what to think.

  205. leftwing says:

    Grim, agree armegeddon is a bad bet, usually 1:5 odds for a 50/50 bet…EV of that over time zero, easy way to go bankrupt lol.

    For me, much of your analysis turns on cases v. deaths. A major shift in focus occurred when the original medical and social view of managing the virus – spread expected cases over time so as to not overwhelm the healthcare system – changed to eradication of new cases and the virus altogether…

    Much of that was politically driven by MSM to whack the Bad Orange Man. Gallows humor running around light red social media is how on Nov 5, assuming a Dem win, all of sudden schools, cities, colleges, dining, etc will be deemed safe to re-open against a measure of hospitalizations and deaths, not new cases.

    There is some truth in that….it is below a third grader’s IQ to be alarmed and generating headlines that -NEWSFLASH – millions of 18-22 year olds re-congregating on campuses produce tens of thousands of new cases. In other news, water is wet….

    So, IMO much of how the economy will play out depends on who wins the election….

    Blue win, everyone in their corner from the House (why hasn’t just extra unemployment passed, it’s criminal to hold those people hostage) to MSM will pull in one direction to get evrything looking rosy for 2021…

    Red win, more obstruction from the House, MSM and anywhere to frustrate yet another embarrassing loss to DJT…..

  206. ExEssex says:

    This just in…..wAp SiNgEr Cardi B seeks divorce from “Offset” her husband this year….

  207. Juice Box says:

    lol nice one No One.

    I am meeting with the Borg aka Destroyer of Worlds today, to see what’s up. Amazon AWS is vying for every business vertical and hiring like crazy if you have the right stuff that is.

  208. ExEssex says:

    Cardi B has filed for divorce from rapper husband Offset. The filing was made in Georgia, with an initial hearing set for 4 November.

    Their daughter, Kulture, was born in July 2018 –

    Cardi B’s first child and Offset’s fourth. Cardi B is reportedly seeking primary custody, and child support from Offset.

    Their relationship has had high-profile ructions. Following rumours of Offset’s infidelity in 2017, Cardi B said: “No, it’s not right … But what you want me to do? Start all over again and get cheated on again? This shit happens to everyone.” The couple stayed together but briefly split in December 2018, with Cardi B saying: “Things just haven’t been working out between us for a long time … we just grew out of love.”

  209. ExEssex says:

    Celebrity Net Worth estimates that Cardi B’s net worth is $24 million.

    Kulture indeed.

  210. leftwing says:

    “For instance, although there were more than 40,000 camps and ghettos during World War II, 58 percent of respondents in New York cannot name a single one.
    Additionally, 60 percent of respondents in New York do not know that six million Jews were killed during the Holocaust…A total of 34 percent of respondents…A shocking 28 percent of respondents…while 62 percent…At least 65 percent of respondents…79 percent say…”

    “We need to understand why we aren’t doing better in educating a younger generation about the Holocaust and the lessons of the past.”

    In order to co-opt peoples’ minds the first step must be to strip them of their ingrained beliefs, truths, and histories…Just ask the perpetrators of the crimes against the populations above….

    The irony to me is people alarmed now often are of the politics that tossed out conservatism (intentional lower case ‘c’) from our schools and embraced a liberal theology that accepted everything.

    Accept everything without question, and soon everything becomes acceptable without question.

  211. leftwing says:

    Juice, re: contested elections key is what the State’s laws say and timing.

    It’s what shut down FL in 2020, effectively there was no legislated pathway to a recount in the prescribed time so the original certification had to stand and the recount was shut down.

    That’s the genesis of new mail-in laws. The (predictable) downside is that these laws were rushed after the fact in a COVID environment meaning that they were assuredly poorly drafted opening numerous challenges for either party….

    Gonna be a lawyer’s wet dream. I give the edge to the Dems for many reasons, mostly because their leaders are institutional, ie. likely preparing for this now on a State by State basis while the Bad Orange Man has no idea this topic should even be on his radar, let alone having the intellect to come close to understanding it.

    Gotta go, looks like my petty thieves in Rochester supported by a bunch of Robin Hood screen touchers are going to give me another prime money making shorting opportunity…..

  212. ExEssex says:

    You guys have got it twisted.
    You can ask 20% or damn near 50%
    of the population nearly anything
    and get blank looks. You can blame the
    schools, sure. But they are only a part
    of the picture. It’s actually about
    distribution of intelligence and in
    particular valuing any Real Historical
    Knowledge in the first place.

  213. Juice Box says:

    Cardi is really what J-Lo pretends to be. She came from a very rough background and worked in Tribeca deli making $200 a week and then became a stripper from the South Bronx. The divorce now means she is growing up, no more bad boys. We might see her cast in a few big movies with some big stars and maybe marry one of them.

    I first saw her on a Channel 5 news episode of “Street Soldiers” four years ago. This is before the surgery and new teeth.

    Here is the clip.

    https://youtu.be/3vTw8j0_hck?t=201

  214. D-FENS says:

    OMG please re-elect him. Hilarious…need more of this

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1306219979566710784?s=20

  215. Juice Box says:

    Essex – to your point, Jay Leno on his tonight show segment “JayWalking” made a fortune doing it.

    Here is a good one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJlY9C7YWzI

  216. SmallGovConservative says:

    As Arte Johnson would say, ‘very interesting…’. Looks like Joe will be working from a cubicle across the hall from the Oval Office — ushered in for photo-ops, no doubt.

    Kamala Harris accidentally touts plans under a ‘Harris administration’ during virtual roundtable (Fox News)

    “A Harris administration, together with Joe Biden as the president of the United States,” she said. She quickly clarified, “The Biden-Harris administration will provide access to $100 billion in low-interest loans and investments…”

  217. Juice Box says:

    re: OMG please re-elect him. Hilarious…need more of this

    D-FENS at least he did not pull out some hot sauce out of his purse lol..

  218. homeboken says:

    Doctored Video ALERT!!!! Warning Warning!!!

    It’s a funny tweet. The original was Biden playing Despacito, which made me want to crawl under my bed I was cringing so hard.

    Left – what are you shorting? I have some recent profits I am willing to risk, and have been eyeing some short term puts.

  219. homeboken says:

    Looks like the Big 10 is going to green light a football season ASAP.

    To the surprise of nobody, these schools see their competition (ACC/SEC, etc) playing and they realize that shutting down for a season not only impacts 202 revenue, which is huge. But it will hobble the recruitment efforts and the conference status for years to come.

    As usual, money talks and BS takes the bus.

  220. Fast Eddie says:

    So, I see that Despacito means ‘slowly’? Lol. Well, if the shoe fits, Joe.

    And O’Biden was on point when he mentioned a a “Harris-Biden administration.” And then finally stated that “U.S. troops died in Iran and Afghanistan.”

    Yes, this is the man you want to lead… an old man that is wheeled out of the basement once and a while to speak from a teleprompter.

  221. Fast Eddie says:

    Federal government unveils plans to make coronavirus vaccine free for all Americans

    Another win for the Trump administration. This, along with the latest news yesterday about an effective blocking treatment of the virus and the unprecedented mid east agreements! It makes you wonder what the Oblammy administration was doing for eight years besides pilfering and insulting the production class.

  222. homeboken says:

    In the last 60 hours –

    POTUS held a rally in Nevada,
    flew to CA to be briefed on wildfires
    flew back to DC to sign peace accords with Israel/UAE/Bahrain
    Did a televised town hall in PA led by a former Clinton official.

    Joe Biden went to a podium and played Despacito on his IPhone.

    These are your choices folks. Pick a side.

  223. ExEssex says:

    11:07 and true to form Trump made a complete and total fool of himself at each & every stop.

  224. Bystander says:

    Boken,

    I was going to post that as well as Left I went back and forth. From what I read, it is not ASAP but Oct 24th. Five weeks is a a long time plus no fans allowed tc. Look at VA-VT game, post-poned indefinitely due to Corona. Could it be a good thing for Trump? Maybe but a long way to go before a snap is played.

  225. Grim says:

    That may be the most epic Trump retweet ever.

  226. Grim says:

    Capital Theater Passaic – Monroe Street.

    So much god damned musical talent went through that place.

  227. Grim says:

    Just scroll through the show list, it will blow your mind.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Theatre_(Passaic,_New_Jersey)

  228. Grim says:

    One of the last shows at the Capital:

    Beastie Boys – April 1, 1987 (Murphy’s Law and Public Enemy open. The first show in which Flavor Flav wears his signature clock necklace on stage.)

  229. Libturd says:

    “U2 – May 12, 1983”

    That’s a pretty early U2 show. Never saw a show there sadly. Passaic is such a weird town.

  230. No One says:

    Does the Democratic party condemn NWA and the hundreds of other subsequent music groups producing music with similar lyrics? What’s Biden and Harris’ stand on WAP?
    What’s mayor Willie Brown’s take on his favorite WAP?

  231. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Kinda like Maxwells in Hoboken. So many great shows there. Loved the place. If you didn’t get tickets, just eat dinner there and then pay the bouncer 10 bucks to get in.

  232. homeboken says:

    By – I’ve been watching the VT-UVA game developments closely. I have both personal and professional interests in Blacksburg. VT has a school specific dashboard. Case load has gone up, no surprise there. The last 4 days, the rate of positive tests has really dropped off. https://ready.vt.edu/dashboard.html

    But as someone else mentioned earlier, there is no data for deaths or hospitalizations. Which I can tell you are both zero, since the start of school.

  233. leftwing says:

    Wow, what a list. never knew Scher was from West Orange.

    Love small venues like that. Did my share of megashows of course, unavoidable for some acts, but nothing like a 3000 seat venue to see some of these bands. Unforgettable.

  234. Bystander says:

    “epic Trump retweet ever”

    Nah, that will always been this “white power” retweet, which in any other year would have caused a national scandal..not with insane Orange clowns. Play to the deplorable base. They laugh it off and enjoy the entertainment

  235. Juice Box says:

    In other news the Senate Homeland committee today voted 8-6 along party lines to authorize the subpoenas for Crossfire Hurricane etc, includes a few names we have not yet heard from directly under oath including apparently now “former” FBI agent Joe Pientka.

    Should make for some fireworks if they have the hearings next month. They are also dragging in Sidney Blumenthal, former Obama chief of staff Denis McDonough, former FBI counsel Lisa Page, former ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power, former FBI director of counterintelligence Bill Priestap, former White House national security adviser Susan Rice, former FBI agent Peter Strzok, and former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith who just plead guilty to making a false statement about a FISA warrant.

  236. leftwing says:

    On cultural issues…

    OK, I avoided all the cardi-B garbage. I don’t even know who most of these ‘famous’ are when CBS News rolls to Entertainment Tonight and hosts are fawning over some ‘celebrity’…really couldn’t care.

    Anyway all these WAP references had me google….lol…..The definition of ‘defining deviancy down’. No outrage or concern, just laughter on my part. You wanted it, you got it. Mock former first and ‘second’ ladies all you want. What decorum.

    One benefit, TIL what a kegel is. LOL.

    Also, watched Cuties the other night. Really don’t see what the fuss is about. Your daughters have access to worse on their phones (yeah, I know of course your daughter doesn’t have a device at this age, think again…..). Chr1st, the way so many people were up in arms I thought I was actually going to see French kiddie p0rn…..

  237. leftwing says:

    Home, KODK. Sixth go around since the spike in late August. 4 and 1 so far….

    Don’t mess around with it unless you really know what you’re doing with options. Very little chance that an outright purchase of puts would be profitable due to vol and spreads can be very inefficient. Even if you are profitable on an outright purchase it would be luck, premiums are too high for an adequate risk/reward so the long term EV of that trade is zero. Need to offset with writes and ideally ratios but that obviously has further exposure. I’ve been doing vertical ratios and calendars, and legging in. Losers are targeted at 25%, the one I had (this morning) was a gap down 40%. Winners generally come off the table at 75% or greater. Gives me a target 3:1 payout and a minimum 2:1 payout. Both can juiced by legging in and smart bids. Not for the faint of heart and there are many easier high fliers to short with better volume, open interest, spreads, etc. My favorite situation in my trading portfolio is event driven, and this was an obvious one, in addition to playing into a couple other strengths I have (yeah, I read the Akin Gump investigation front to back…)

  238. 3b says:

    On a lighter note, for those who might not have seen it. Schiits Creek a Canadian comedy created by Eugene Levy and his son David is very funny, and well worth watching. The final season will be released on Oct 8.

  239. SmallGovConservative says:

    Interesting and very reasonable opinion piece (WaPo of all places); wonder how many are liker her…

    I never considered voting for Trump in 2016. I may be forced to vote for him this year. (WaPo)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-cant-stand-trump-but-democrats-may-force-me-to-vote-for-him/2020/09/14/1cf10518-f6c4-11ea-a275-1a2c2d36e1f1_story.html

  240. homeboken says:

    3B – Schitt’s Creek is doing another season? I thought they were done. That show is very funny. If you like Eugene Levy, you’ll like his entire family that is cast in various roles.

  241. 3b says:

    Home: The final season is released on Oct 8, than that’s it. It is hysterical! Yes him, his son and his daughter all in the show. And I think his wife was in one episode. Too bad they decided to end it.

  242. Libturd says:

    Schiits Creek. A little too over the top for me, but the writing is clever enough to make it attractive enough for me to watch a couple of episodes. The daughter and bisexual son are really funny characters and quite believable. Mom and dad are a little over the top.

  243. Juice Box says:

    ZIRP forever, when do we go negative? Banks hoarding cash 1. 5 trillon in February before Covid-19, now about 3 Trillion.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/EXCSRESNS

  244. Libturd says:

    We got Apple+ for free for having an unlimited data plan from VZ. I swear, there is not a bad show on the entire network. Just finished watching Defending Jacob. I’m hooked on the incredibly silly Ted Lasso and the Little America, Trying and Spielberg’s take on the Twilight Zone (Amazing Stories) is really good as well. Then there is this documentary show on Unique Homes, which was also amazing. I have Netflix, Showtime, Epic and Amazon. IMO, Apple eats them all alive. Then again, I thought Friends was the worst show on television.

    Did anyone else stay up for the Islander win last night? I absolutely love the heart of this team. Though I can’t seem to keep my eyes open today.

  245. JCer says:

    Cardi b is just gross, super trashy and not good looking even with all the surgery. But she is totally playing it Trump style, say outrageous things and get attention. The morons eat it up and there is no such thing as bad publicity.

    Chi, on people not believing the holocaust. What is wrong with people, do they not teach this stuff in schools anymore? Are things so PC that they don’t show the footage of the liberation of the camps or the mass graves? Whether the number killed in camps/gas chambers is 1m,2m,3m,6m or 10m is purely academic at this point, the fact remains a massive number of people were tortured and killed in these camps, beyond this was the starvation and slave labor, so under what circumstance these people perished(very credibly at least 5-6m) is neither here nor there. It surprises me because growing up we were taught pretty extensively about the holocaust and slavery in elementary school but not about many of history’s other atrocities(holodomor, armenian genocide, pol pot, Mao, Japan’s war crimes, etc) nor about the real extent of Germany’s crimes against people other than the Jews(Roma and Sinti, the infirm and disabled, political dissidents, the Poles, etc).

    I’d make the argument it is important to teach about all of these atrocities, we have more contemporary examples in Yugoslavia and we could even talk about what is happening in China with the Uyghurs today. Unfortunately we say “never again” but these types of things have happened on a small scale from 1945 on and continue to happen, humans are capable of the most depraved acts and educating people to not be complacent when their government commits atrocities is a good first step.

  246. JCer says:

    Lib that is just consistent with apple, they tend to execute very well in everything they do. As a technologist and a user of both Android and iPhone, I can say with absolute certainty the iphone is the more polished platform.

  247. 3b says:

    Lib: The wife is especially over the top, and a less is more with her character. But I love the Fathers character. The whole video empire thing had me scratching my head, but otherwise I really enjoyed Schitts creek and looking forward to the last season.

  248. 3b says:

    Lots of things not taught in school, including the so called Irish famine. It’s basically the Irish were poor relied on the potatoes to live, which got a fungus over one million died and the number now is actually thought to be more. And two million immigrated. They don’t teach the fact that the country was in fact chock full of other food, grain, cattle etc which was exported throughout the British empire. My Irish born parents never called it the famine, it was the great hunger, or An Gorta Mor in the Irish language. If it was any other country but Britain it would be called a genocide. Britain always gets a pass by historians.

  249. JCer ChiFi Answer` says:

    JCer & Chi

    Regarding Holocaust 2 points.

    1- There is a lot of “forgetting” being pushed by the White Nationalist crowd. Soon they will be pushing the financial issues is the jews fault.

    2-Is all relational and empathy drains people. You feel a link because of jewish ancestry. But don’t expect others too, especially when they see brutality and apathy around them all the time. At this point don’t really expect hispanics to feel it, after witnessing how ICE is treating them. There is even a Dr. Mengele wannabe giving hysterectomies to women in ICE custody in Atlanta. Don’t expect blacks either – the answer is on why BLM is in the news.

  250. JCer says:

    I’m not feeling empathy due to ancestry, it’s abhorrent. To even compare abuses performed by ICE or police forces to actual genocide where millions were systematically killed is sick. I feel no different towards the holocaust than I feel toward the Holodomor(where the communists starved the small land owners of Ukrainian extraction) or the armenian genocide or what the serbs were doing in Kosovo. Rounding up people and trying to exterminate them because of their ethnicity or religion is up there for the worst things people are capable of.

  251. SomeOne says:

    JCer,

    Chi, on people not believing the holocaust. What is wrong with people, do they not teach this stuff in schools anymore?

    Grownups on this forum parrot lies when it serves their “team” (not sure if the team actually does anything directly positive for them). Talk to belief and belief to indoctrination of their kids. Schools become sidelined when social media becomes the spiritual guides :)

  252. JCer says:

    3b agree on that, the brits committed crimes against humanity with regards to their treatment of the Irish. Ireland was a colony just like any other, no special treatment because they were white, exploitation pretty similar to those in Africa, Asia, or the Americas.

  253. 3b says:

    Comparing ICE to the Nazis, Holocaust, is disgusting, and shocking. You should be ashamed.

  254. SomeOne says:

    JCer,

    To even compare abuses performed by ICE or police forces to actual genocide where millions were systematically killed is sick.

    The millions weren’t killed in one day, you know. Little abuses piled upon little abuses soon grow. Many don’t but some do. Wouldn’t you agree that abuses by police/ICE should be acknowledged and addressed ?

  255. 3b says:

    Jcer: Yes they did, they have a dismal record in Ireland. And they made a mess in the Middle East as well, including screwing the Kurds.

  256. 3b says:

    Some: It’s amazing that this is your thought process. ICE is there to protect the border that is their job. They are not rounding up people and putting them in gas chambers or ovens. The people crossing the border have a choice, the Jews of Europe did not.

  257. SomeOne says:

    3b

    Are you saying that there have been no abuses by ICE? Or that they should not be acknowledged or addressed? Not sure why you are bring up gas chambers.

  258. A Home Buyer says:

    Obviously millions were not killed in one day. That would be silly.

    They were killed in incredibly small and inconsequential “abuses” like 5,000 a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for 4 years strait.

    Our Police force is about 149,595 abuses short of their “slight abuses” for the month. America just cannot seem to do anything right.

    But I agree. Lets subtlety equate the ICE putting families in cages who are illegally crossing our boarder on the same page as indoctrination of youth and the mass slaughter of ethnicities.

    Because ICE is on track to becoming the SS without immediate intervention and this comparison really highlights the similarities and slippery slope principle which exists for everything except gun control.

    (See, now Gun Control is basically the Holocaust.)

  259. Bystander says:

    Trump taking victory lap for Big Ten. What a crock. He hears a bunch of teams were unhappy with decision, realizes that BT is thinking about revote then tweets that he called Warren to open season. Now tweets “he got it done”. Which is it? I thought those Bad dem governors shut it down for political reasons. Watch them yank it just before start and hose him, one week before election.

  260. A Home Buyer says:

    I would also be curious to know which White Supremacists have been able to influence the mostly center / liberal school system to downplay and remove these incidents from curriculum.

    This claim feels unvetted since the Pledge of Allegiance is basically no longer recited, LBGQTI…xyz… are basically fully accepted and integrated, fossil fuels are the devil, and bullying / racism is forefront of all social interactions.

    I guess those white supremacists gave up on everything else?

  261. Slippery Slope says:

    Malevolence is malevolence. The mother losing the child, the child losing the mother has the same pain scale whether by the KGB, SS or ICE. The excuse could be not revolutionary enough, race does not belong in europe, or race does not belong in the USA.

    Trying to give the holocaust higher pain rating is the problem. The only reason is “perceived” higher is political power. If ICE tried their bs with jewish immigrant from Ethiopia you would hear big noise. Even if the Ethiopian jews get treated like garbage in Israel – guess why – they are black.

    Slippery slope based on who got hit harder in the last 100 yrs is the problem. Lack of empathy for those getting pounded to bits now is the issue.

  262. Phoenix says:

    What do White Supremacists have in common with liberals? I always thought they were the opposites. Hmm, something new.

  263. Phoenix says:

    “The mother losing the child, the child losing the mother has the same pain scale whether by the KGB, SS or ICE.”

    The father losing the child, the child losing the father has the same pain scale whether by the local police, judges or DYFS.

  264. leftwing says:

    Slope, wow, what color are your historical glasses?

    ICE regardless of whom they subject to “their BS” and facist/communist murdering governments are miles apart.

    First, while any individual pain can be considered equal, the sheer scale of difference in numbers is the point.

    Secondly, no, the ‘issue’ with ICE has nothing to do with race and is the polar opposite of the Holocaust.

    Holocaust victims, for the most part, were law abiding citizens of the countries in which they resided.

    ICE ‘victims’ are CRIMINALS. They sneak in under the cover of dark knowingly breaking our laws. When we catch them we process them and ship them back. Part of that process is INCARCERATION.

    Guess what? CRIMINALS get INCARCERATED. Since early history.

    Law abiding citizens should not be rounded up en masse and executed.

    If you can’t see the vast difference well I really just don’t know what to say….

  265. A Home Buyer says:

    Or you know… 6 million people died in a coordinated campaign to eradicate them as compared to… maybe a few dozen illegal aliens over a decade by individuals which are usually punished because despite our lack of empathy for the dead, those actions are usually still illegal.

    But yea, your right. Its all equal and the problem is our lack of empathy in the death of person ignoring our countries sovereignty and laws. Basically the same thing.

  266. Juice Box says:

    3B – I smell a rat.

    Didn’t Pumpkin’s father get deported by ICE?

  267. chicagofinance says:

    homeboken says:
    September 16, 2020 at 3:00 pm
    3B – Schitt’s Creek is doing another season? I thought they were done. That show is very funny. If you like Eugene Levy, you’ll like his entire family that is cast in various roles.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SemK2k9sVrM

  268. chicagofinance says:

    Remember, an NYC survey. How many white supremacists are on the curriculum committee for NYC schools?

    A Home Buyer says:
    September 16, 2020 at 5:57 pm
    I would also be curious to know which White Supremacists have been able to influence the mostly center / liberal school system to downplay and remove these incidents from curriculum.

    This claim feels unvetted since the Pledge of Allegiance is basically no longer recited, LBGQTI…xyz… are basically fully accepted and integrated, fossil fuels are the devil, and bullying / racism is forefront of all social interactions.

    I guess those white supremacists gave up on everything else?

  269. Juice Box says:

    Jeeze, jobs I have been seeing available. Go work for the Vampire Squid, the Borg aka Amazon,Fed 101, Mad Dog Diamon, or Sin Bin Wells Fargo.

    I may have to open up my own body shop again. The good ole days of farming for consultants and plunking them down as indentured servants in companies big and small. My favorite was a couple from China, top notch programmers turns out they were escapees from the CCP as in “China” they are now living happily in California thanks to me.

  270. Juice Box says:

    re: Schitt’s creek.

    Eugene Levy gonna have not watched Club Paradise in deacades.

  271. Bystander says:

    JB,

    Good idea but ultra competitive now. A million companies want to play wage slave game. I gave up on IT job market recently. I thought it would get better after H1B slowed. It was bad two years ago and now a wasteland of pure sh&t. High skills for little pay. Experienced people need not apply. My IB just moved more roles offhsore. A Director leaves and they replace them with AD. Cheap, cheap cheap. We can’t hire any talent and shocked when people turn us down. We constantly squeeze for discounts. 12 hour days minium, weekends and they will f–ck us come year end.

  272. grim says:

    When people begin to forget history, opportunists begin to try to rewrite it. Great example is German media insistent on referring to the two sites below as “Polish Death Camps” on national TV, almost as if they are completely absolving themselves of it?

    I’ve been to Auschwitz and Birkenau twice. Next time I’m in Poland, I’ll bring my kids.

    They are Nazi German Death Camps and should never be referred to as anything but.

  273. 3b says:

    Juice. Could be. He has been unusually quiet lately.

  274. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Radical leftists are just as anti-Semitic as white supremacists, they just hide it.

  275. 3b says:

    Slippery Slope: You are comparing the systematic elimination of almost an entire ethnic/religious group, with something that is completely different. It’s ironic the name of your handle. Slippery Slope indeed.

  276. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, what I have always stated on here.

    “The same goes for moves within these metro areas. In New York, a recent study by Miller Samuel Real Estate Appraisers & Consultants found that home sales in Manhattan dropped by 56% compared to last year, while they increased by 44% in suburban counties located around the city. But many experts and real estate agents have observed that this is largely the result of people (mostly white, wealthier people) who were already planning to move to the suburbs simply accelerating those plans. 

    “In many metros what we’re seeing, and it’s early in the days that we’re seeing that, is that there are indicators of more demand for the less expensive, further out inner suburbs as opposed to the central city of metros where we’ve seen growth in jobs,” said Susan Wachter, professor of real estate and finance at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. “That’s what was happening even before Covid,” she said, referring to population growth rates in the suburbs and exurbs that have been speeding up over the last several years.”

    https://apple.news/AfpjZTYHIQ3KXLrFfnZ8Log

  277. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “As with much of the rest of the pandemic’s toll, this wealth and racial inequality may emerge as a dominant narrative of migration patterns. If current trends hold, the inequality may be geographic, too. But overall Wachter doesn’t expect to see anything like the death of the city. “Cities have had the power to draw, and will continue to have that power to draw job growth,” she said. “And hence for the long run, I expect that there will be recovery.”

  278. Phoenix says:

    “Radical leftists are just as anti-Semitic as white supremacists, they just hide it.”

    Learned something else. Most of the Radical leftists I have met were feminists.

  279. ExEssex says:

    Everyone loves to hate the Jews.
    We’re used to it. Thanks.

    That is why we established Israel
    and since it’s inception Jews give zero
    F-cks what the rest of the World thinks about it.

  280. JCer says:

    Bystander it’s not just your firm, all the banks have gone cheap especially in IT. Even when they are promoting and giving the people the titles they are not paying anymore, it seems everyone is massively understaffed and the beatings(and 18hr days) will continue until morale improves. Your employer is truly terrible(if they are who I think they are), they have cut so deep they are barely functioning. It looks to me they are trying to paint a better picture(juicing short term profits) to maybe sell themself the competition.

    Good developers are still expensive and there is money out there for them. I’ve seen what the India resources can do(truth be told the guys who had H1B’s and are now stuck in India are leagues better than your typical India resource, so that is kind of backfiring we don’t want to ban H1b we should make them more easily portable and force much higher wages). Productivity wise you kind of get what you pay for, I have an offshore team with 25 developers for the most part the output is low as is the quality. With our Eastern European teams the quality is good but the output is still less than local teams working our time zone.

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