C19 Open Discussion Week 31b

From CNBC:

NJ governor hopes to use a ‘scalpel’ to deal with coronavirus hot spots not another broad shutdown

New Jersey Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy said Thursday on CNBC he hopes to avoid broad economic lockdowns to deal with rising coronavirus cases in the state and the nation.

“I think we’re less likely, and please God that this is the case, we’re less likely to use blunt instruments we used in March and April when we shut the garage doors down on everything, and much more likely to use a scalpel and go into a particular community,” Murphy told “Squawk Box.”

The governor acknowledged that new Covid-19 cases in New Jersey have been moving higher between 700 and under 1,000 per day recently. “We’ve come a long way but our numbers are up, there’s no question about it, over the past several weeks,” he said. “For instance, higher education has been a challenge,” adding he’s putting more resources behind contact tracing and testing at state colleges and universities.

Murphy described the escalation of coronavirus cases in the state as “hot spots” and not everywhere. “But there’s a fair amount of community spread,” he said, explaining people are mostly following virus mitigation measures, such as wearing masks and practicing social distancing, when they are out in public. However, people are letting their guards down at homes and in “frat houses,” he stressed.

Murphy urged people feeling ill to “take yourself off the field” and self-quarantine. He said government officials need to continue to stay on the “bullhorn” to encourage people to stay vigilant.

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208 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 31b

  1. grim says:

    Grim, cut the pretentious “Maple Cask Finished Bourbon” BS and give the people want they really want! https://leitesculinaria.com/106228/recipes-bacon-infused-bourbon.html

    We did a brown-butter fat washed rye that we used in a cocktail alongside chocolate bitters.

    It was straight up chocolate chip cookies.

    It’s too unstable to bottle, you would need to have lots of alcohol-compatible emulsifier to keep the fat in suspension without congealing at the top and going rancid. Having to refrigerate is even worse, because then it separates even more quickly.

  2. leftwing says:

    Frist.

    Fell asleep during debates, woke up at 4a and couldn’t fall back. Grrr.

    Thanks on that ‘flawless’ ought to be married to me comment. LOL. Good one.

    Did a quick morning walk, neighbor taking out his recyclables probably thinks I’m nuts but hey he was up too.

    Sign count on my street:

    9-0-21. Biden/Trump/total houses. Heavily Repub town.

  3. leftwing says:

    It’s so painful for me to watch Trump….not for the reasons most of you guys criticize him like bullying, boorishness, etc….

    It’s because it should be so easy for him. He is so much his own worst enemy. It’s like watching someone fill the engine with antifreeze and put the oil in the wiper fluid….I want to feel sympathy but for the sheer stupidity.

    I feel most DC Repubs have abandoned him, probably of similar thought that if they hold the Senate and get ACB that’s a fair trade. He’s out there on his own.

    Can’t imagine a large stimulus passing the Senate and I have to think a number of GOP Senators (and others) simply want him to STFU about going higher ‘to get something done’. Incredible sign of weakness negotiating against oneself.

    Still not sure why the GOP Senate doesn’t pass a resolution supporting the narrow, common elements of stimulus. Hold a presser on the back of it, wave the doc, and say it can pass tomorrow as a bill but for Pelosi. PPP, airlines, additional personal checks. $500-800B.

    The most appalling thing for me over the last few days politically was watching the Judiciary Committee. Some real winners on there….at the very least get rid of the octogenarians….Leahy, Grassley, and Feinstein are in their 80s, two of them are 87….Leahy and Grassley looked really feeble….

    Most hopeful political item…the 20 something through millennials start to pay attention and blow some of these worse offenders out….a good start would have been all four candidates topping their respective tickets.

    If this age cohort believes they can work change through the existing system by Party it just won’t happen. That’s been proven over and over…the Parties exist to protect themselves and their own.

    Really in need of a new middle, separately organized.

  4. homeboken says:

    The Hunter Biden scandal is obviously a huge story. The allegations are pretty damning, the tech censorship issue only adds to it. I’d say it was easily the biggest story of the week and that includes a conservative SCOTUS nominee process.

    So what does it tell you that in 90 minutes last night with Biden, this issue was not brought up one time. Not even a hint of a mention.

    The media is sooo in the tank for Biden. They will do everything they can to drag him across the finish line. This tells me EVERYTHING I need to know.

    All the people I think are the most poisoned and corrupt (media,congress) are in the tank for Biden.

    It’s like I tell my kids – who you hang out with tells me a lot about what kind of person you are.

    The country sees this clearly. Some people are so full of TDS it doesn’t matter. But there isn’t enough to get Biden in the WH.

    Does anyone here think that Biden should be allowed to go the 17 days without answering the Hunter question? The court packing question?

    If you think that’s fine, then we will never agree on how to change our political ruling class system.

    I could be wrong and if Biden wins, well the country is dumber than I thought.

  5. homeboken says:

    The contrast between the dueling town Halls was dramatic.

    Trump got treated exactly how I want my elected leaders to be treated. No question is off the table and ask everything with a not so subtle but of skepticism.

    Biden looked like what I expect 60 Minutes to air when a leader retires. Kids gloves.

  6. BRT says:

    This timeline is similar to the HRC timeline where monetization of political office was taking off. She had her non-profit, Joe simply had his son acting as the bag man.

  7. 30 year realtor says:

    Homeboken says: It’s like I tell my kids – who you hang out with tells me a lot about what kind of person you are.

    So you advocate trusting (hanging around with) people like Trump and Giuliani? Two of the most treacherous, lying pieces of dirt in recent history. What are you aspirations for your spawn?

  8. Juice Box says:

    30 yr anything written byThat guy is pure garbage, he was kicked off Twitter for a reason. The NY post was provided the hard drive It was theyWho converted to the email to pdf files for publishing is not the original data, But hey let’s toss some more fuel on the fire.

    Hunter Biden and Burisma does not pass the smell test. Anyone believe he was on that board for any other reason than who his father is? Biden is lying about not know his son’s dealings and meeting one of the directors from Burisma.

    The money from China is proven the Senate report lays it out, it’s corruption, it’s the cost of doing business with Joe Biden’s brother and son.

  9. 3b says:

    Fab: You think Joe will make a great president, and then 8 years of clueless Harris. You set the bar pretty low for standards and qualifications. I really shouldn’t be surprised. As for Bernie, whether you like him or not, at least he has some honor, and he is not bought and paid for like your boy Biden. As for the Republicans they are not my party. I have always been an independent. But you and your fellow Democrats made a big mistake with corrupt Joe, and inexperienced Harris, with no real track record. The young people know they have been sold out. They will be back.

  10. 3b says:

    Juice: It does not matter, the Democrats here are indoctrinated. Fab admitted yesterday that even if the e mail/laptop is real, it does not matter, and does not rise to the level of Trump.

  11. Chicago says:

    FWIW. If you see the follow up stories on Hunter Biden today, it is clear that this information is legit. If it isn’t, then we have the biggest libel suit of all time. You tell me.

  12. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    If any of the allegations of illegality are true about either the Democrats or Republicans related to this campaign are true, prosecute them and throw away the key.

  13. phoenix says:

    The passage that led to the controversial multiple-choice question was: “That little broad was two-timin’ me again while I was in jail.”

    And the answer is… ‘sl’? N.J. middle school uses term as multiple-choice option on quiz. Irony is Grim’s moderation software caught this, but the middle school teacher was unable. Well, the use of the word was technically accurate.

    https://bit.ly/3nYKAfK

  14. 3b says:

    30 Year: Fair enough at least you acknowledge that unlike Fab. And that would include Joe Biden too if it’s ultimately determined he knew all about his Sons business affairs.

  15. Phoenix says:

    Joe is so out of it I could picture him being snookered by his son. “Hey dad, just sign this, all it does is give me a chance to win a new car.”

  16. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    The TDS people are insufferable. They’ll believe whatever the propagandists tell them too and then become very discerning about anything that doesn’t suit them. Completely unhinged. And when all else fails, and they can no longer hide from the facts, they yell Russian interference.

  17. Phoenix says:

    ‘Crazy uncle Donnie!’: Internet erupts with memes mocking Trump after Savannah Guthrie told him he is ‘not someone’s crazy uncle’ during NBC News town hall.

    Live by the Tweet, Die by the Tweet.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8846097/Social-media-users-flood-Twitter-memes-mocking-Crazy-Uncle-Donnie.html

  18. Phoenix says:

    30 yr,

    Yes, dubious. Just look at the timing. I don’t think it’s real although there may be a smattering of pictures, etc that might be to give it legitimacy. Leave laptops and not pick them up? Who does that? Why bring them if you are not picking them up or don’t want the data that is on them.

    Mac repair guy reminds me of this actor from the Blacklist that just died. As the character on the show, not real life.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/10/06/clark-middleton-dead-the-blacklist-twin-peaks-actor-63/3634510001/

    Hunter is still slime, even if this whole thing is bogus. And Sleepy Joe would be as powerless against him like Conway’s daughter.

  19. Phoenix says:

    In other news, fact check it all you like, Covid is really starting to spike as predicted.

    Or don’t believe it.

    Take a deep breath.

  20. Phoenix says:

    Daily costs were greatest on intensive care unit day 1 (mechanical ventilation, 10,794 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 6,667 dollars), decreased on day 2 (mechanical ventilation:, 4,796 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 3,496 dollars), and became stable after day 3 (mechanical ventilation, 3,968 dollars; no mechanical ventilation, 3,184 dollars).

    Triple this in NJ. It’s what we need to charge in order to be able to afford to buy a boomer’s house and pay for her retirement. Pony up.

  21. Juice Box says:

    Chart for NJ

    60 people on vents and 728 Hospitalizations, the numbers are ticking up.

    https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml

  22. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Of course they could refuse to buy the boomers house, no one forcing them.

  23. leftwing says:

    “Looking to undermine rival Joe Biden 20 days before the election, President Donald Trump’s campaign has seized on a tabloid story offering bizarre twists…”

    “Can we agree that AP is a reputable source?”

    No, not when the first line of the first sentence begins as such:
    Looking to undermine…
    Tabloid story….
    Bizarre twists….

    Those are impartial terms? First line. Of the first sentence. The ‘journalist’ couldn’t even wait to get his opinion into the story.

    If you’re OK with this treatment I truly don’t know what to say. Remember, as in judicial appointments, the shoe does inevitably move to the other foot.

    The Left are losing their control on media. Demonstrably and fearfully so, as shown by Twitter blocking DMs – not just postings but DMs. Think about that…private communication between two adults forbidden because their thought runs afoul of someone else’s sensibility with whom they don’t even agree in the first place. If that doesn’t frighten you I don’t know what will.

    Data sources and news origination continues to fragment. It may be fun to source uber-biased NYT, CBS, AP articles to bash the current administration. It may be amusing to laugh at the difference in treatment between the two town halls last night.

    These traditional media sources supportive of the Left are becoming less and less relevant. Be careful what you wish for when you see what replaces them….

  24. Phoenix says:

    The impractical gender decides the house. After they get done chasing you down the aisle at Target demanding that you marry them immediately..

  25. Phoenix says:

    So much money at stake. Expect dishonesty from both sides at all costs.

  26. Juice Box says:

    This is troubling. Who study says Remdesivir does not work.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54566730

  27. Phoenix says:

    BTW,
    Thanks HMB and Chi for your choices of spouses for me :-)

    Bridezilla at Target was a laugh.

  28. Fabius Maximus says:

    “You set the bar pretty low for standards and qualifications”

    I think that bar was set by 8 years of W and 4 years of Trump.

    And yes the Trump Kids are a lot worse. Remember Fredo and the kids Cancer charity.
    http://archive.is/ORUwt

  29. ExEssex says:

    Trump interjected: “I know nothing about QAnon … I do know they are very much against pedophilia. They fight it very hard. But I know nothing about it.”

  30. Fast Eddie says:

    I would be curious to see Guthrie-style treatment with O’Biden. Obviously, you won’t as he can’t handle that type of pressure but he’s expected to be president?

  31. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing, what other motivation was there for the timing and release of that laptop story by Rudy to the NY Post? What is implicitly biased about that sentence? The story could be true and that sentence could also be true. They are not mutually exclusive. Why is that sentence an opinion?

    Leftwing, in your opinion are there any reputable media sources?

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    I think that bar was set by 8 years of W and 4 years of Trump.

    The Oblama administration was the gold standard for doing nothing other than appeasing the lesser crowd with empty promise while stuffing their own pockets.

  33. Juice Box says:

    Fab – If you took the time to read the article you posted it reads like the charity Eric Trump runs did allot of good. I don’t think any golf course Trump owned or otherwise will host charity events for free forever. But hey f=k the sick kids in the intensive-care unit at St. Jude’s Hospital and tear that Trump placard off the wall, erase the good from history! Trump charged the charity to host the events he should be arrested and jailed!

    What good has ole sleeping Joe done for sick kids? I cannot find any stories on his charity. Is there even one out there? NOPE!

  34. ExEssex says:

    NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after Donald J. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes:

    “Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain. Charities are not a means to an end, which is why these damages speak to the president’s abuse of power and represent a victory for not-for-profits that follow the law. Funds have finally gone where they deserve — to eight credible charities. My office will continue to fight for accountability because no one is above the law — not a businessman, not a candidate for office, and not even the president of the United States.”

    As part of a resolution of the lawsuit announced on November 7th, Trump was ordered to pay $2 million, or $250,000, a piece to eight different charities. Those charities are Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. Additionally, Trump was forced to reimburse his namesake foundation $11,525 for sports paraphernalia and champagne purchased at a charity gala, which was added to $1,797,598.30 already in the foundation’s bank account. The combined $1,809,123.30 was split evenly and recently transferred to the eight agreed upon charities. Each charity ended up receiving a total of $476,140.41.

    Additionally, as part of the settlement, Trump was required to agree to 19 admissions, acknowledging his personal misuse of funds at the Trump Foundation, and agreed to restrictions on future charitable service and ongoing reporting to the Office of the Attorney General, in the event he creates a new charity. The settlement also included mandatory training requirements for Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump, which the three children have already undergone. Finally, the settlement required the Trump Foundation to shutter its doors last December and dissolve under court supervision.

  35. 3b says:

    Fab: There you go again, deflecting. Your statement was you think Joe will make a good President, and then Harris. As I said you are standards are low. As for young Bush we was a disaster with Daddy issues in my opinion. Unqualified for the job, followed by Obama who was also unqualified and arrogant to boot. But this is today and you think Biden will be a good President, your standards are low.

  36. Juice Box says:

    30 year if you are following the story and you are the “motivataion” and “timing” are a follow up to the denials that Joe Biden that have been making for a long time now.

    Joe Biden has denied for many months now he knew about his son’s business deals and denies he met with the Chinese and Ukrainian “business” people his son was taking million of dollars from for “introductions”.

    Joe Biden denied it believing there was no proof. Well now there is proof. Where are the denials now? They are a coverup and lies about the corruption.

  37. 3b says:

    Fab: And again with the Trump kids vs Biden’s son, If this all turns out to be true, it’s corruption at the highest level. What else did Old Joe do in his over four decades in power, what else was his Son involved in? But no not you focus on the Trump kids. If you love your Democrat Party you should be able to criticize it, but you never do, you deflect and rationalize it away.

  38. Phoenix says:

    A lawyer’s job in America to get his client to eat his s*** sandwich. Or to pay him for $5,000 for the privilege of not being forced to eat it.

  39. 30 year realtor says:

    Juice Box,

    The only part of this that is an October surprise is that this is October. Old allegations that have already been investigated. Even by the wild chance that that laptop belonged to Hunter Biden and those emails were real, there is no smoking gun. The Hunter Biden issue has been investigated by congress. Where are the indictments and proof of wrong doing?

  40. 30 year realtor says:

    Phoenix,

    $5000? Where did you find such an inexpensive attorney?

  41. JCer says:

    Essex, he was just following the example the Clinton’s set with their foundation, his friends just aren’t as powerful….

    Change the NYAG’s statement to we will hunt down any wrongdoing provided it was committed by our political enemies and you’ll have the correct statement. These people don’t give a damn about real corruption. It is partisan, just think Trump had been doing this for 20 years before becoming president, corruption in charities is nothing new and usually goes undisturbed. Trump is unethical but again this is on the fringes vs. millions in payments from foreign companies to family members of the sitting VP.

  42. ExEssex says:

    JCer riiiiiight. Except perhaps he is too dumb to even grift properly….?

  43. Juice Box says:

    Trump and his crew were always sle*azy. There is no denying it, the guy ran Cas*in*os that makes him a mo*bster at a bare minimum. Ban*krupt*cies, woma*nizing, gold toilets and just ugly ties. I always used to laugh when I saw his clothing line at Macy’s or his furniture line in the stores.

    But all that pales in comparison to the looting going on inside the beltway. He was elected because he was the anti-politician. Well it won’t work time we are getting a career octogenarian politician who is going to lie his way into office, cannot run on his record at all, and had to drop out of the presidential race 32 years ago because the media actually did their job back then and went after him for his lies.

  44. JCer says:

    It is blatant hypocrisy on the part of democrats to not see this for what it is, which is serious corruption. Not only should Biden not be president, he, his son and his big eared associate should be in jail for corruption. I don’t Trust congress, the political establishment wants Trump gone and does not want their tricks brought to light both parties have used politics as a means to profit, this is a threat to the gravy train, neither party wants this to be a story.

  45. Juice Box says:

    30 year – so now you are applying the criminal standard. That is a high bar. This stuff all happens at arm’s reach, payments made to LLCs via lawyers etc, all designed to obscure and hide the money, but we do know the money was flowing there is no denying it, the Senate report lays it out millions and million of dollars.

    There was a grand jury investigation into Hunter Biden and what is on that laptop. They could not or have not indicted him yet who knows? It’s all a secret, and we will not know before the election it seems.

    I am pointing out what mistake the Democrats are making again, win or lose they could have picked the next generation leader instead they picked a 47 yr octogenarian lying politician who very will could destroy us all. I blame the boomers…..They all need to go, the sooner the better.

  46. 3b says:

    Juice: Yeah old Joe and his lies, graduated at the top of his law school class , yeah 75th out of 84, and plagiarized others speeches and is a racist, but hey he is not Trump. Fab says he will be a good President!!

  47. ExEssex says:

    The bankers here don’t like Biden that’s proof enough he’s the right man for the job.

  48. 3b says:

    Juice: Don’t blame me, I wanted Bernie or Warren, way to the left, but they would have frightened the bought and paid for politicians and their corporate masters, and perhaps they would move closer to the center, and the Republican closer to the left, and we might have gotten some fundamental change in this country. Instead we get Biden who is part of and has been part of the problem.

  49. ExEssex says:

    Next up, Elizabeth Warren.

  50. ExEssex says:

    The “change” you pretend to want is coming….with or without you.

  51. 3b says:

    Essex:At least we don’t lie about our credentials. But hey go vote for the old guy. Morning in America again with the Biden Harris Team, or should I say Harris and Grandpa trotted out on special occasions.

  52. 3b says:

    Essex Oh I want it, the trouble is you and others like you don’t although you pay lip service to it. If you think Biden part of the problem for years is going to bring change, then you are a fool.

  53. Fast Eddie says:

    So, if you have O’Biden elected and both houses under dem control, what’s the first piece of legislation that gets passed?

  54. 3b says:

    Fast: They will do nothing, and blame it all on Trump.

  55. ExEssex says:

    They’ll probably pass a huge relief bill.

  56. ExEssex says:

    Trump will be a distant memory soon.

  57. homeboken says:

    30 year – You don’t think it’s peculiar that no one asked Biden about the story?

    This is a serious allegation, if it is false, then why not come out publically decry it as totally false.

    The media is complicit with Biden, they see no issue in totally ignoring the claim that the Biden family monetized the office of VP for personal gain.

    Now, I don’t see how this could all be a scam. There are tens of thousands of emails, photos, videos, text messages on the laptop. All time stamped and with addressess. This story can be proved accurate or innaccurate very easily by a sophomore comp. sci major.

    The total disregard for even asking about the claims is what alarms me. The combination of big tech IMMEDIATELY throttling the distribution of the story is down right terrifying.

    I don’t beleive this story is going away. The Biden family dealings smell of corruption but more than that, this seems to implicate the FBI as well as covering tracks or burying evidence.

    Again, these are not anonymously sourced documents. These have a source (the hard drive) and a real person (the shop owner) that has gone on record, interviewed, to explain how this all came to be.

    Your good with all that? Nothing to see here? That’s fine, its your right to vote for how much you will tolerate. I personally can’t ignore such damning evidence.

    I asked a simple question yesterday – What is the explanation for Joe Biden, while VP, to take a position on the staffing decisions of a Ukrainian prosecutor? What possible beneift to US diplomacy or protection against threat does that provide.

    Imagine if President Xi came to the states and said “You need to fire Kim Foxx (states attorney IL) or else we are going to pull out the phase I trade deal” That makes sense to you?

  58. Juice Box says:

    Essex – change is coming for sure, quality of life is going down for everyone.

    The current out of control deficit spending will see to it for sure.

    Our GDP is $20 Trillion and and the deficit spending this year alone o far is 3.1 Trillion. They are about to add another 2 Trillion to it any day now. How can we ever pay this back?

    We need a Survival Plan, not another Trillion dollar spending spree to bail out the state and local governments.

    I don’t see it coming from Biden or Trump or anybody in congress…

  59. Fast Eddie says:

    I can only imagine the sewage and refuse in that bill. And I can only imagine how many peculiar groups and odd balls will have their hands out claiming to be affected by the pandemic.

  60. homeboken says:

    The real issue with the national political divide is psychological.

    Half the country hates Trump with passion.
    Half the country hates the DNC/political ruling class with the same passion.

    One side is going to be wrong. And people will not easily admit their error in judgement in any case. But in this case, you have people that have established their entire careers or personality on a premise that may likely be a total lie.

    Getting someone to accept that is very hard. People have spent years defending their position. To be faced with facts that show they are totally wrong, is not comfortable for anyone.

    But one side is going to be proven wrong. It seems like nobody is willing to acknowledge that it might be them.

  61. ExEssex says:

    tRumP sAvEd tHe sUbUrbs

  62. 3b says:

    Juice: Survival plan for what? When it all comes crashing down?

  63. 3b says:

    Essex: Trump saves the suburbs, you should be happy. After all you said you don’t really care for Hispanics.

  64. ExEssex says:

    3b you should repost some old quotes about my opinions, you know like you did before.

  65. 3b says:

    Essex: No I have not posted old quotes of yours. I am simply saying you can’t use Trumps I saved the suburbs, and what that might infer, which is why you posted it, when you are the same guy who said you don’t care for Hispanics.

  66. ExEssex says:

    No one really cares.

  67. leftwing says:

    “What is implicitly biased about that sentence?”

    Thought I laid that out pretty clearly but the descriptors were a mix of opinion and/or negative connotation. Unless you believe “Looking to undermine…tabloid story….
    bizarre twists….” are objective. I’m sure back in the day you wouldn’t have minded those in a performance review. Opinion page, fine. Objective reporting? Not close.

    “Leftwing, in your opinion are there any reputable media sources?”

    I find business sources the best. Presume because at the end of the day it’s about the money so fooling oneself with exaggerated narrative has real world personally dire ramifications. WSJ and FT first. Most objective non-business daily is tough, if forced to choose would have to go with BBC.

  68. JCer says:

    Juice, Trump is no M0bster. My dad negotiated the deal for the original Trump Plaza in 1980, the philly m@fia intended to build a casin0 there but was not able to get a casin0 license, they had a banker, Ken Shapiro as the “legitimate face” of the project. Most of the land was owned by associates of Nicky Scarfo.

  69. leftwing says:

    30yr, part of my reply was on your query regarding the timing of the laptop news. Spent more time trying to get it through some unknown filter than typing it so I said fcuk it.

    Bottom line, both campaigns should be coordinating negative news, timeline and friendly parties to amplify.

    Biden is good at it and has MSM helping plus the leftie outlets. DJT is not good at it and only has Fox.

    It’s how politics are played, neither party can complain it happens.

  70. 3b says:

    Essex: Perhaps they don’t,or perhaps you don’t like being reminded of what you said. It does prove my point though about some proud liberals.

  71. JCer says:

    To anyone mistaken, your big banks overwhelmingly want Biden……

    They like politicians who can be bought and paid for, there is nothing worse than a politician who takes your money and doesn’t give you what you “paid for”, Biden will give them what they pay for. Trump even if you bribe him will turn around and screw you. The moneyed interests from banking to defense contractors overwhelmingly want Biden.

  72. Juice Box says:

    3b – Survival plan for the recession which now looks like a double-dip recession.

    The GDP plunged 32% in the 2nd quarter and bounced back, but we are now headed into another lockdown if the Covid=19 cases continue to tick up and they are we are going to see another dip.

    Congress printed trillions to bail out businesses somewhat and are locked in now for more and more with no end in sight. We cannot print 5 Trillion a year and not expect consequences, massive permanent unemployment and inflation are on the horizon.

    Nobody has any plan to deal with it. The short term spending we put in was a stopgap. There is no long term plan.

    Doom is on the horizon.

  73. chicagofinance says:

    Go check out the writer’s LinkedIn page….. comparative lit major from Penn; Columbia journalism; now lives in Providence, RI….. what do you expect? To be fair, with that pedigree, WTF is doing working as a pool reporter for the AP?

    leftwing says:
    October 16, 2020 at 9:30 am
    “Looking to undermine rival Joe Biden 20 days before the election, President Donald Trump’s campaign has seized on a tabloid story offering bizarre twists…”

    “Can we agree that AP is a reputable source?”

    No, not when the first line of the first sentence begins as such:
    Looking to undermine…
    Tabloid story….
    Bizarre twists….

    Those are impartial terms? First line. Of the first sentence. The ‘journalist’ couldn’t even wait to get his opinion into the story.

    If you’re OK with this treatment I truly don’t know what to say. Remember, as in judicial appointments, the shoe does inevitably move to the other foot.

    The Left are losing their control on media. Demonstrably and fearfully so, as shown by Twitter blocking DMs – not just postings but DMs. Think about that…private communication between two adults forbidden because their thought runs afoul of someone else’s sensibility with whom they don’t even agree in the first place. If that doesn’t frighten you I don’t know what will.

    Data sources and news origination continues to fragment. It may be fun to source uber-biased NYT, CBS, AP articles to bash the current administration. It may be amusing to laugh at the difference in treatment between the two town halls last night.

    These traditional media sources supportive of the Left are becoming less and less relevant. Be careful what you wish for when you see what replaces them….

  74. ExEssex says:

    I never claimed to be a liberal. First off. I am a progressive.
    Secondly, I don’t ‘hate’ anyone group my thoughts are based purely on having some sort of sensible immigration policy and perhaps a more strict deportment criteria for those who violate the laws. That is not hate. Nor is it hate to suggest that huuuuge portions of the cities here are in ruin as they are in many parts of the Country based on simple economics. Trump, for all of his bombast has only managed criticism and HE is in charge. He has no plan. No ideas. Buh-bye.

  75. homeboken says:

    Yet another mediocre, wealthy kid that had every educational advantage in life yet now struggles to compete with us lowly state college grads.

    You can’t overcome mediocrity with education.

    “WTF is doing working as a pool reporter for the AP?”

  76. leftwing says:

    “So, if you have O’Biden elected and both houses under dem control, what’s the first piece of legislation that gets passed?”

    1. Stimulus/relief. Packed with spending, especially to state/local. Need to pay back all those election favors.

    2. Feel good virus bill. Put some meaningless measures in place so you can claim you are the source of victory if virus is defeated soon. Blame DJT if it doesn’t turn after your legislation. Cost free option.

    3. Tax Bill. Every Pres knows your best shot is your first shot. This would be number one but for how advanced the House bill already is.

    4. NOT. There will not be a court packing bill passed (offered maybe, certainly not passed). Nuclear option, and even the Dems know better. Biden’s reluctance to commit one way or the other is seen by pundits as indicative of him not wanting to p1ss off the center. It’s the opposite. This is a sop to the Left. Biden’s refusal to commit is not to string along the center, it’s to string along the Left. They will, again, be left holding an empty bag from the DNC. Mark my words.

  77. ExEssex says:

    Strawmen all around. Careful they burn pretty easily.

  78. leftwing says:

    “To be fair, with that pedigree, WTF is doing working as a pool reporter for the AP?”

    With that pedigree and job I’m guessing living in mom’s RI basement to make ends meet.

  79. chicagofinance says:

    I have to different clients that are chiefs of staff to Democratic Reps……. they said the tax bill is waaaaaaaaay down the list of priorities……….. let the states go at each other’s throats…… anything to motivate blue staters to violet out red states (FL, TX, CO, AZ, NV, NC) is considered a bonus plan.

    leftwing says:
    October 16, 2020 at 11:33 am
    “So, if you have O’Biden elected and both houses under dem control, what’s the first piece of legislation that gets passed?”

    1. Stimulus/relief. Packed with spending, especially to state/local. Need to pay back all those election favors.

    2. Feel good virus bill. Put some meaningless measures in place so you can claim you are the source of victory if virus is defeated soon. Blame DJT if it doesn’t turn after your legislation. Cost free option.

    3. Tax Bill. Every Pres knows your best shot is your first shot. This would be number one but for how advanced the House bill already is.

    4. NOT. There will not be a court packing bill passed (offered maybe, certainly not passed). Nuclear option, and even the Dems know better. Biden’s reluctance to commit one way or the other is seen by pundits as indicative of him not wanting to p1ss off the center. It’s the opposite. This is a sop to the Left. Biden’s refusal to commit is not to string along the center, it’s to string along the Left. They will, again, be left holding an empty bag from the DNC. Mark my words.

  80. chicagofinance says:

    He’s smoking blunts and hitting on Brown university undergrads……AND living in his mom’s basement……

    leftwing says:
    October 16, 2020 at 11:38 am
    “To be fair, with that pedigree, WTF is doing working as a pool reporter for the AP?”

    With that pedigree and job I’m guessing living in mom’s RI basement to make ends meet.

  81. chicagofinance says:

    Fcuk it…… I am pouring a double Oban right now!

  82. leftwing says:

    chi, lol.

    and re: your clients you do need to share more frequently ;)

  83. ExEssex says:

    11:49 Duuuuuude!

  84. JCer says:

    chi, that continues to validate my world view when it comes to politics. Problems are never solved because ti would eliminate the levers they use to garner support and campaign contributions….

    I’d like to think if we got stuck with Biden, Jersey gets a bailout……but I know better. People are so stupid NJ needs to be purple, being reliably red or blue is worthless we get nothing from either side. I know left hates the metric on what we get “back” from the feds but the truth remains we do not get the federal gravy. When you are in the bag nobody gives you a thought, that little D next to the candidate’s name is all that is needed to win in NJ.

  85. JCer says:

    on the pedigree and job of the AP pool reporter. My guess is laziness coupled with self-righteousness that prevent him from getting a good corporate job.

  86. Phoenix says:

    Funny coming from someone who became famous by showing her beaver on television. Guess she can’t find guys willing to spend enough money on her to make it worth her while to go out anymore.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/entertainment/sharon-stone-done-dating-scli-intl/index.html

  87. 3b says:

    Essex: I don’t argue with any of what you say, in fact you are right. Liberal/Progressive I apologize, but you did in fact make the comment about Hispanics, I don’t know if somehow the distinction between Liberal/Progressive makes a difference. As for Trump not having a plan, give it a rest, he is there 4 years. Where is Biden’s plan after all his years in DC, and what about Obama? Where was his plan? And all these other Democratic cities that have been ruled by them for years, where is their plan?

  88. Phoenix says:

    Covid appeared in America 9 months ago and we still can’t produce enough of something as simple as rubbing alcohol. That’s how you know you live in a s******* country.

  89. Phoenix says:

    Bootleggers could do a better job than the American government.

  90. No One says:

    Leftwing,
    Sadly the FT has already moved pretty far left. They are like Bloomberg constantly trying to inject a leftist slant and agenda in what and how they cover. Very blatant on their digital portals.

  91. ExEssex says:

    Duuuude this is me and my buddy Jeff out last weekend:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6BYzLIqKB8

    and then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedqV4Gl_us

  92. ExEssex says:

    Again, I’m not wrong, I’m juuuuust and assssshole.

  93. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Biden’s reputation and track record are now becoming a bigger myth than Obama’s. The TDS people have taken an extended departure from reality.

    Bankers don’t like Biden? Who do you think wrote the bill to prevent people from discharging student loan and credit card debt in bankruptcy?

    This guys history of fvcking over working people in the interest of lobbyists is disgraceful.

  94. 3b says:

    Biden is US Senator from DE. That tells us exactly who he is beholden to.

  95. Bystander says:

    Ex,

    This is what the right does. They are losing and trying a ‘Benghazi’ like slander tactic late in campaign. They loved when Comey when he decided to harpoon HRC with Weiner laptop non-sense right as the country was moving past it. It was so late. It caused enough people to question her integrity (if she had any) and swung election to Trump. It won’t work this time bc we see the insanity of his reign and how he has destroyed this country. 4 years later, Comey is enemy, as is McCain, Bush family, Romney, Bolton, retired generals, all ex-staff, Trump’s sister, and basically every person who tells reality of Dumpy’s sick and insane ego. You can’t fight the Trump cult mentality on this board. If Biden was involved in allegations and proven true then send him to jail and Kamala leads. That is difference with parties. Rs should have dumped Trump and let Pence lead. Instead, you hitched all hopes and dream to a crazy person and now what to deflect it away, like we are the ones not understanding Orange clown. F-off.

  96. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Oh yeah, hunter Biden was a 100k/year consultant for MBNA when Biden wrote the bankruptcy bill to strip people of the ability to discharge credit card debt. This POS has been stealing from us for 50 years.

    https://www.gq.com/story/joe-biden-bankruptcy-bill

    I’m sure according to TDS people like 30 yr and Essex this was all legit and Biden never talked to hunter about his gig at MBNA.

  97. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Bystander, place the blame where it belongs. Much with the DNC. They no longer vet candidates or have a real primary. The power brokers pick a candidate behind closed doors, grease a few palms, and it’s a fait accompli.

    Biden has never received a legit vetting. None. All the sewage he left behind in his 50 years of robbing us is now leaking out despite the best efforts of the propagandists.

  98. 3b says:

    Bystander: The only one I know here who is a Trump supporter is Fast, which is his right. Speaking for myself I am one appalled at the hypocrisy displayed by some loyal democrats on the board. And two, I am shocked that there are those who actually believe Biden is the right choice for President. Do you really expect us to believe that an old guy who is definitely suffering mental decline and who has been in DC for decades is the right choice for this country. He was hand picked by the DNC politburo and that’s your choice. You and your fellow Democrats in fact all Americans should be outraged that this corrupt old man should be the only alternative.

  99. ExEssex says:

    Clutches pearls….

  100. Bystander says:

    Sorry, 3b, you lost me here..this is pure BS but I think you know it.

    “The only one I know here who is a Trump supporter is Fast, which is his right.”

  101. njtownhomer says:

    Triple crown sweep after Frump admin.
    Bill number 1 LGBTQ
    Bill number 2 DACA
    Bill number 3 ACB

    I think you wanted to hear these answers instead of COVID relief bill, high net worth tax increases, state support etc.

  102. leftwing says:

    “Biden is US Senator from DE. That tells us exactly who he is beholden to.”

    This poster wins the prize….

  103. Bystander says:

    Again, I will ask..what core R platform has Trump broke away from during his 4 years? You guys keep harping that he is some rogue game changer for DC politics. It is non-sense. You just like his nasty rhetoric and the angrier he makes liberals, the more you love him. Leading a country? That is secondary as long as he hits first point. Fine, Biden sucks but he will stay off Twitter.

  104. 3b says:

    Bystander: No bs on my end. I state that fact honestly as I see it . Fast is the only one who says he voted for Trump and will do so again. As for myself I stated multiple times before the 2016 election I was not voting for Trump or HRC, this time around I will also not be voting for the two choices. And do I note when Trump May be right on Certain things, does that make me suspect, as in I am a secret Trump supporter, no it does not. In moments when he is coherent he is actually right on some things, regardless of the fact he is Trump. You guys can’t or won’t acknowledge that, just like you can’t or won’t acknowledge Biden is a deeply flawed candidate as perhaps you believe that would somehow be indicative of supporting Trump. Anyhow you guys are going to get your Biden and all will be good from your perspective. My mail in ballot went in the recycle bin.

  105. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Off the top of my head sentencing reform and overseas draw downs.

  106. leftwing says:

    “Bystander says…This is what the right does. They are losing and trying a ‘Benghazi’ like slander tactic late in campaign.”

    Grow up buddy, that is the industry of politics. Both sides do it, and if they don’t they are negligent. Dems have a distinct advantage this cycle. I say with admiration, not condemnation. Ask Chi for some stories, i’m sure his clients could tell some whoppers.

    “That is difference with parties. Rs should have dumped Trump and let Pence lead. Instead, you hitched all hopes and dream to a crazy person and now what to deflect it away, like we are the ones not understanding Orange clown.”

    Not true, at least for the majority of people supporting him who are not hardcore Trump.

    Middle of the road Repubs hate him, conservatives loath him, libertarians think he is fool. The credit the Repubs get is for actually letting new people under the big tent unlike the Dems…problem is the first one in the tent was the circus freak not the hot chick in a bodysuit juggling…Repubs could have just as easily shut Trump down the way the Dems c0ckblocked Bernie (twice) but didn’t. Repubs also have taken other important moves to break the stranglehold of party insiders, eg. term limits on committee heads.

    As I’ve said countless times Trump’s a freak, I don’t support him, and if it were Bernie v Trump I’m voting Bernie. Today, yeah I pull the trigger for the Orange One while holding my nose.

  107. 30 year realtor says:

    Tear apart the AP writer, but you believe the story about the hard drive from the owner of the computer repair shop? You guys appear all in on the validity of this story. No question of authenticity for even a moment? If it is true and the Bidens are truly guilty, I want to know now! I want to know before the election. Millions of people are voting every day. What are they waiting for?

    It doesn’t smell right!

  108. BRT says:

    3o, if that’s true, than the FBI should come out and say it…after all, he’s claiming they have the original now.

  109. leftwing says:

    Also, for clarity, I mean that if forced to choose between the two major candidates I would choose DJT. As I’ve said previously I am writing in a friend :)

  110. leftwing says:

    Don’t want to all of a sudden be labelled a Trumpanista

  111. Bystander says:

    3b,

    I could rattle off at least a dozen handles here who rattle off Dumpy’s (snicker) accomplishments, please. I appreciate that you may have standards and you have every right to throw it away. Fact is, someone will be leading this country post November election. I never liked Biden, nor did I like Kamala. I agreed with Orange clown on H1B reform but like all things, lies. He never did a damn thing, just like his lies that he is ‘running ACA better’ than Obama and he has a great alternative waiting in wings. Pure BS. He lies so often and so much that you can’t take anything seriously. Believing he is a game changer is a lie. Still waiting on how he broke from R platform.

  112. Bystander says:

    left,

    It always was true.

  113. leftwing says:

    “Tear apart the AP writer, but you believe the story about the hard drive from the owner of the computer repair shop? You guys appear all in on the validity of this story. No question of authenticity for even a moment?”

    AP guy and Post is apples and oranges. AP guy is just bias masquerading as mainstream, Post is a question of the legitimacy of the underlying data.

    Let me answer the authenticity question this way….Two NY newspapers over the last two weeks have exposed personal data on two Presidential candidates.

    I believe them each, equally. :)

  114. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Other than fvcking over working people by helping to ship jobs abroad, trapping people in hopeless debt, and mass incarceration, please enlighten me about Joe Biden’s accomplishments in 47 years of government service.

  115. ExEssex says:

    2:08 boooootstraps

  116. 3b says:

    Bystander:Fair enough. I can’t argue with what you say, it’s true. But Biden has been lying for years he is just better and more polished at it than Trump, or he was now he just kind of rambles along. But he has done nothing, like I said the
    US senator from Delaware that’s who he is beholden to. Who benefits from the HB 1 visa program his masters. Where was he for over 4 decades while our manufacturing was shipped overseas, and white collar jobs out sourced and corporate pensions eliminated? Nowhere, because all of that benefits his corporate masters. Trump was a one term fool, but not a politician. That is the difference, the same clowns like Biden who are going to save us and our great country are the same clowns who let things get so bad that someone like Trump could win in the first place.

  117. Bystander says:

    “Repubs could have just as easily shut Trump down the way the Dems c0ckblocked Bernie (twice) but didn’t”

    Give it up. He simply Apprenticed his way past the candidates, spoke falsely and childishly and entertained the masses. RNC had a cult following before you knew it. No R politician was ready for that low level kindergarten session talking about big hands/dicks. Rubio was only one who caught on too late. Jeb was like a deer in headlights not ready to talk like a 6 year old. You got Andrew Dice Clay but unfortunately he became your president. Trying to retro-fit him now into your policies was all that was accomplished for 4 years. Luckily his hatred of Obama fit several big R items, like getting rid of healthcare for millions with no alternative.

    DNC was torn between two well-liked and established candidates. Sure, they sold soul for Hillary but Joe is generally well-liked across the aisle.

  118. 3b says:

    Bystander; Well liked? Perhaps, but he was chosen to restore the status quo, nothing more. The DNC could have gotten behind other candidates but they did not. That says it all for me. Trump and the freak show will be gone, but doubtful you will be pleased otherwise.

  119. JCer says:

    Bystander, Trump is off his rocker. He has no policy, besides cutting taxes, regulation and immigration only what the RNC gives him. He is not a politician, knows nothing of how Washington works and has depended heavily on the political establishment. The fact that the warmonger-er John Bolton dislikes hims seems to be a positive in my eyes. Your choice in this election is really clear corrupt feeble old man or ranting lunatic, on the surface it doesn’t seem like voting for orange makes sense.

    When you look closer, a few things stick out first the DNC should not be rewarded for their shenanigans, they did it last time and it went side wards, they figured that was a one off regrouped and are attempting it again. The other to me is Biden will embrace China with open arms, which I see as a tactical blunder we should have had the showdown with china 15 years ago instead we allowed ourselves to get more dependent on them. Then I view him as one to over regulate the economy when we are trying to recover from a 100 year pandemic. Trump will do nothing in the next 4 years besides tweet about what a great job he’s doing, but at least I know he won’t try to “fix” anything, it almost never has the desired consequences. When prevented with two geriatric weapons of mass destruction I have to pick the less destructive one.

  120. Bystander says:

    3B,

    I just can’t lay those types of things at feet of a single person. Taking all of that and dumping it on Biden is pretty ridiculous. There are hundreds of thousands of people who led us down this path over years. I would blame Jack Welch more than any other person. He squeezed suppliers, screwed American workers hard and his management success led thousands of CEO worshippers down the path of bottom line driven globalization. Now, that company has failed bc it made those poor money chasing decisions over 30 years. He can rot. FYI, my father was CEO/president of several marine manufacturing companies. He supports Trump as businessman but I say ‘Jack Welch’ and he foams at mouth. All I need to know.

  121. leftwing says:

    “That is the difference, the same clowns like Biden who are going to save us and our great country are the same clowns who let things get so bad that someone like Trump could win in the first place.”

    Thank you.

  122. JCer says:

    By left is right the RNC wasn’t willing to get down into the trenches to kill a Trump nomination. In a fair election of their constituency he was the winner, they gave the people what they asked for. I personally do not believe Hillary nor Biden were the choice of their constituency, I believe the constituency wanted a much further left candidate and the party thinks this will be a no go in the election, they don’t want to blow the undecideds and the Clinton democrats towards the republicans…..

    The political establishment on the right wields Trump like a tool, they do not like him but he is useful as they can get him to advance their legislation. Given the loss of the house he’s just not that useful, that being said they will regret kicking him out if they lose the senate as well.

  123. leftwing says:

    2:18p, your comments are so off the mark I suppose it’s appropriate we are close to Halloween and orange gourds….

    Trump won the masses. Agreed, which gives him the nomination. Unlike how the Dems operate.

    RNC, established Repubs, conservatives (especially), and libertarians hate him. You reference JEB. It’s because of people like JEB (and Hillary, and every other establishment character) that he won.

  124. leftwing says:

    “Trump will do nothing in the next 4 years besides tweet about what a great job he’s doing, but at least I know he won’t try to “fix” anything…”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYJS80MgYA&ab_channel=01101010charles

  125. 3b says:

    Bystander: I would have thought you would understand what I meant. By Biden I mean Biden and the rest of them in DC that stood by and did nothing. Blaming it all on Jack Welch is pretty weak, as the politicians stood by and did nothing. And to listen to Biden and hey I am just a blue collar kid from Scranton is a bunch of crap. He is a bought and paid for corrupt politician along with the other career politicians.

  126. JCer says:

    It’s not laying it all at the feet of Biden it is the political class on both sides. They sold the people in the first world up the river to make a quick buck, they enabled it. This is why you see guys like Nigel Farage of UKIP, or Beppe Grillo of Cinque Stella, Bernie and Trump, Lega Nord, etc all of a sudden getting political interest. When one looks at Grillo in Italy one can see the same outrage brought that party to power as Trump, the political class enriched themselves while working class Italians were taxed to death and out of this rose a populist movement run by a comedian who advanced non-politician candidates. All of the politicians who sat quietly while we gave away of competitive edge and sold the people into slavery are accountable, joe just happens to be one of many…..

  127. Bystander says:

    Left,

    The only empty gourd is on your noggin. Who challenged Trump? Dumpy won 41 contests and next closest was Cruz with 11. RNC wagon was hitched to him. RNC had zero options. Everyone hated him yet voted for him. On other side, HRC won 34 to Bernie’s 23. Do you see the difference? Jesus. Glad he entertained with his rhetoric. Hopefully the show is over and RNC can get a sane person next time and not be so easily fooled.

  128. chicagofinance says:

    I know that the WSJ & the NY Post are owned by the same company, but check out the below editorial:

    30 year realtor says:
    October 16, 2020 at 1:57 pm
    Tear apart the AP writer, but you believe the story about the hard drive from the owner of the computer repair shop? You guys appear all in on the validity of this story. No question of authenticity for even a moment? If it is true and the Bidens are truly guilty, I want to know now! I want to know before the election. Millions of people are voting every day. What are they waiting for?
    It doesn’t smell right!

    Twitter’s Partisan Censors
    Senators have a chance to explain why an open society matters.
    By The Editorial Board
    Oct. 15, 2020 7:09 pm ET

    Republicans are voting to subpoena Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee next Friday to explain the company’s unprecedented speech blackout against a New York Post story that could embarrass the Joe Biden campaign.

    This is the right call on a serious issue, and we hope the Senators come prepared to persuade the American people, not grandstand. Big Tech’s increasingly dishonest and abusive assaults on ideas it dislikes will intensify unless the public comes to see that such manipulation is wrong no matter which side is targeted.

    The political actions taken Wednesday by Twitter—and to a lesser extent Facebook —went far beyond normal content moderation. Here are the facts: Joe Biden supervised the Obama Administration’s Ukraine policy while his son Hunter sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company called Burisma. The New York Post found copies of emails it says are between a Burisma executive and Hunter, including one in which the executive thanks Hunter for “giving an opportunity to meet” his father.

    The story might not change voters’ minds. President Trump has tried and failed to make Hunter’s Burisma dealings a campaign issue. Yet Twitter pre-emptively sprang to the defense of the Democratic nominee, taking extraordinary steps to stop Americans from reading it.

    Users who tried to share the link to the Post story were shown a message that they couldn’t do so. The New York Post’s Twitter account with 1.8 million followers was shut down, as was White House spokesperson Kayleigh McEnany’s; the “Team Trump” campaign account; and even that of Politico journalist Jake Sherman.

    Twitter says it acted because the Post story violated its “hacked materials” policy. It’s true that the provenance of the story is open for debate and scrutiny—the Post says a laptop with the emails was delivered to a Delaware repair shop, and that the owner gave them to Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani. Notably, the Biden campaign has not explicitly denied the authenticity of the emails.

    Liberals say without evidence that it’s a disinformation operation—which is not out of the question. The Senate Homeland Security Committee is “in the process of validating the information,” Chairman Ron Johnson told Fox.

    The problem is that if Twitter has a policy against “content obtained without authorization,” as the company added, it has a policy against journalism—especially journalism in the Trump era. In 2017 and 2018 the Justice Department fielded 208 criminal referrals for leaks of classified information, more than three times as many as in the prior two years. Stories based on Administration leaks, including about national security matters, have circulated widely on Twitter.

    Such stories ought to be read with a skeptical eye. But Twitter would never think of canceling the account of a news outlet reporting on the 2017 leaked emails from the Environmental Protection Agency, for example. The site allowed feverish falsehoods about Brett Kavanaugh to circulate as Democrats sought to sink his Supreme Court nomination.

    Even the most partisan Democrat can see Twitter’s aggressive editorial discretion to silence journalism is not neutrally applied. The company has a progressive agenda and is willing to use its substantial powers over America’s elite information landscape to advance that agenda. It won’t always work; this particular stunt may have increased the circulation of the Post story because the suppression was so outrageous. But it’s an ominous sign of what is to come if Americans become inured to such Big Tech behavior.

    The Big Tech bias against conservatives is deep and broad. Dick Costolo, Twitter’s previous CEO, tweeted recently that “me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution. I’ll happily provide video commentary.” Shot?

    Silicon Valley executives may be surprised in 2021 at the fury and contempt in which they are held by the Democrats’ anticapitalist left-wing. But they shouldn’t be surprised if the free-market Republicans they censor are unwilling to use an ounce of political capital to protect them from a command economy.

    Beware of politicians pitching one-size-fits-all policy approaches to this problem. Repealing the liability protections of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act could make companies’ censorship trigger-finger even more twitchy; government content moderators could be even more abusive; and smashing the companies with antitrust wouldn’t change Silicon Valley’s extreme progressive ideology. Yet we’re open to reforms, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas released an interesting opinion this week on how courts have interpreted Section 230 too broadly.

    Beyond policy, a free society can’t survive if its people aren’t committed to it and are willing to justify anything to get power. Silicon Valley’s partisan interference flies in the face of American instincts about democracy, fair play, and the spirit of the First Amendment. A successful Senate hearing next week will expose the depth of the ideological ugliness that is taking place, and what is at stake if Big Tech executives abuse their status to limit American political debate.

    Copyright ©2020 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
    Appeared in the October 16, 2020, print edition.

  129. BRT says:

    On other side, HRC won 34 to Bernie’s 23.

    But prior to that, they made sure no one…including Sleepy Joe ran against her. She literally was about to run unopposed for the nomination until Bernie stirred up the pot. That’s supposed to happen on school board elections, not presidential elections. The fix was obvious.

  130. Bystander says:

    A fix, BRT ? Like how RNC/Rove pushed McCain out of the way for Bush by promoting ‘black baby’ rumors.

  131. BRT says:

    Listen, if you saw any of my posts my first two years on this blog, I couldn’t stop complaining about Bush and the Republicans. They tanked the economy, exploded spending, and got us into two wars. But since the country ran them out in 2008, there hasn’t been much to complain about on their end.

  132. BRT says:

    but while we are at it, even McCain was a self serving politician. War service aside, the guy had no clear principles as a politician. He went from Liberal moderate Republican to full out neocon while running for President. Ended his career as an anti-trumper.

  133. Bystander says:

    Hah, BRT..Trump was a democrat as recently as 2004. Did not become R until 2009 . Jesus, talk about loose principles.

  134. BRT says:

    but at least he transformed Republicans into supporting labor by imposing tariffs, reducing immigration. He also seems to have them not eager to start another war. That’s progress to me. Political parties morph their positions all the time. Anyone who labels themselves democrat or republican is likely just another victim of group think. If you agree with your party over 75% of the time, chances are, you are not capable of independent thought.

  135. JCer says:

    bystander, I was just about to post about my father. Trump was a real estate developer, you assume the political views of whoever you need to help you finish your projects, in NYC you must be a Democrat. When my Dad died and no one knew his political leanings he could play rock ribbed republican or hard core democrat with the best of them, if you looked at the campaign contributions he gave to everyone, again it’s all tied to getting your projects approved built, etc. People do what is convenient for them, those who are ideologically driven are useful idiots, most of your politicians adopt positions based on who is paying them and what they need to do to get their votes and how it plays in their party as they need the party to help them advance their goals.

    Speaking of all of this when people bring up the Trump kids corruption, they have no idea how much this presidency has cost Jared and Ivanka. Just looking at the deals that fell apart in Jersey City Kusher has lost 100’s of millions of dollars, he went from Fulop’s friend to a pariah. Be weary of Fulop he is a crook first order and incredibly ambitious.

  136. Bystander says:

    JCer,

    I get the business angle but Dumpy’s political decision to run R was strictly based on anger, xenophobia and racism (in middle and south) associated with first black president and struggling economy. You think we missed that clown’s first attack was the very racist birther movement? He and Bannon were tapping into it with eyes on 2016. Kudos on that evil strategy but time to move on.

  137. Grim says:

    What’s the difference between the Trump tax returns and the Biden emails?

    Don’t understand why they would be treated differently.

    You could argue forged, hacked, faked, stolen for both.

  138. JCer says:

    Bystander I think what you are seeing is Trump’s actual political beliefs, he hasn’t been real estate developer in years, no longer has to worry about politics impacting his business, it is what allowed him to get involved with the birther movement……

    If you haven’t figured it out yet, Trump is all about Trump. His reason for running for office is all of this attention he is getting, it keeps him relevant and there is nothing he fears more than being irrelevant, except maybe looking incompetent. There is a lot wrong there no doubt….

  139. homeboken says:

    Many people on this board have been screaming about Biden/Ukraine scandal since late 2019. People have been warning about this scumbags for a year and the response is: oh what odd timing?

    You don’t want to know the truth. You love your ruling class leaders. Be a good boy and kneel before Joe.

    Tear apart the AP writer, but you believe the story about the hard drive from the owner of the computer repair shop? You guys appear all in on the validity of this story. No question of authenticity for even a moment? If it is true and the Bidens are truly guilty, I want to know now! I want to know before the election. Millions of people are voting every day. What are they

  140. homeboken says:

    Hunters former business associate, who is serving time for fraud, has apparently flipped.

    He provided a reporter with his email address and password.

    If we find more emails about this scumbags AND we have a corroborating witness, will that make any difference to the TDS crowd?

    Nah, it won’t. You will explain it all away and laugh about how much smarter you are than the flyover rubes.

  141. ExEssex says:

    Rudy:

    Collusion with a hostile foreign power to get False documents in cOveRt
    rUsSiaN oP.

  142. Fast Eddie says:

    Breaking Bombshell: New Hunter Biden emails implicate Joe.

    Holy shit!

  143. homeboken says:

    Lib – we net whether Biden would even make it to election day a top the ticket.

    A month ago I all but conceeded. Right now, I’m liking my odds.

  144. homeboken says:

    Bet*

  145. Fabius Maximus says:

    Looks like Gary’s reading Briebart again.

    “they have no idea how much this presidency has cost Jared and Ivanka. Just looking at the deals that fell apart in Jersey City Kusher has lost 100’s of millions of dollars”

    Oh give us your great wisdom on how those 3 high rises in Journal Square ever made sense. A place where you cant walk around at night without a good chance you get mugged. Even the Path Plazas are not safe.

    Its not Newport Pavonia, but they are looking those prices.

    But remember this gem. How Journal Square was really sold? https://money.cnn.com/2017/05/06/news/jared-kushner-nicole-family-event/index.html

  146. Fabius Maximus says:

    Home,

    I have to dig back into the postings, but I think the bet was that Joe would be the nomination, so technically you have lost already. But if you want to double down between now and the election I’ll take that action. Define the terms.

    As I recall I have two bottles on the line, you and “A HomeBuyer” I think Lib may have three.

  147. Fabius Maximus says:

    From Heather C0x Richardson (National Treasure) today.

    “We also learned today that intelligence officers had warned White House officials, including the president, that Russians were using Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani to feed disinformation to Trump. A former intelligence official told Washington Post reporters: “The message was, “Do what you want to do, but your friend Rudy has been worked by Russian assets in Ukraine.” This makes the willingness of Republicans to push yesterday’s “revelation” of an incriminating laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden even more astonishing. NBC News reports that intelligence officers are investigating that story to see if it is a foreign intelligence operation.
    On Twitter tonight, conservative columnist Bill Kristol wrote, “A friend who has served at very high levels of government, a true public servant and a serious conservative, emailed me earlier: “The Republican Party has become the party of facilitating Russian agitprop and voter suppression. Not what I signed up for.””

  148. Fabius Maximus says:

    Juice,

    So if Fredo cuts a check for 5Mil and self deals for 5 Mil, you are good on that? Given that he said that Trump resources between Trump donations and outisde groups covering expenses it would be 100% donation.

    MKay.

    Donnie has always taught the family to self deal. Every dontaion to any charity seems to have always been other peoples money.

    Just like when Donnie said he would fund his own campaign in 2015. Complete BS. Other peoples money and what was spent when straiught to Donnie. All Campaign events to stock Trump Water.

    He is the king of self dealing.

  149. joyce says:

    I thought “Fredo” was a derogatory term, an aspersion similar to the n-word?

  150. JCer says:

    Fab stick to your day job you fundamentally don’t understand the jersey city real estate market. JSQ despite being a total dump is actually a very hot market, the new rentals are leased out, the commute is good and it has a huge draw amongst the Indian population. Houses in JSQ have been going for over a million dollars for a while now….

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/107-Magnolia-Ave_Jersey-City_NJ_07306_M90785-19995

    2000 rental apartments in Jersey city is a big windfall for Kushner, and he got a sweetheart deal on a lot of it. Also JSQ is not nearly as dangerous as you think, besides lots of crazy hobos. Journal Squared is a huge project, they have 11 vacancies in the middle of a pandemic, it doesn’t look like the market is hurting there and those apartments aren’t cheap, over 3k for a 2 bedroom.

  151. homeboken says:

    Fab dig all you want junior.

    Thinking that YOU have a better memory of my life, than I do….perfect leftist arrogance.

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  153. leftwing says:

    If i owe someone a bottle lmk. Doubt i did the nomination bet. Likely did something that may have said he would be on ticket on election day? Not sure.

  154. Juice Box says:

    Poor CBS reporter covering Biden campaign asked sleeping Joe on the tarmac last night about the NY Post report. Joe did not DENY, only attacked reporter. Twitter Mob responds to get the reporter fired for asking a question, and generally they have their head in the sand, it must be Russia again, bla, bla bla. It’s debunked etc etc etc. None can even fathom the bill of goods they were sold by the Democratic Party to support a lying, plagiarizing, war monger, racist who has been on the wrong side of foreign policy for five decades and cannot run on his voting record.

  155. Juice Box says:

    I’m sure the Twitter And Facebook censors are very unhappy to see that this New revelation from Bevan Cooney as his emails were obtained with full authorization, by a reporter. “Hacked materials policy” out the window. Need to conjure up another excuse to ban it, Bevan Cooney has linked Hunter and Joe Biden to a White House meeting hastily arranged with Chinese Communist party officials for his pay to play schemes.

    More coming too from reporter Peter Schweizer

  156. Fabius Maximus says:

    home,
    So how did this investigation pan out?

    Off to have some fun at 1200fps

    homeboken says:
    April 16, 2020 at 11:51 am
    Anybody remember Jon Durham. I am pretty eager to hear/see how his investigation turns out. Apparently Durham relocated to DC right before the lock-downs so he could continue his investigation and minimize time lost.

  157. homeboken says:

    Fab – Durham is a separate issue and one that will produce indictments.

    The Biden thing is a totally independent set of scumbags doing scumbag things.

    You understand that there are multiple bad guys doing bad things in the party you support, right?

    The DNC trying to drag Biden and all their down ticket races across the finish line is fun.

  158. homeboken says:

    By the way, the GOP has plenty of bad guys. I want all of them arrested too. I don’t support any party line, I support scumbag politicians going to jail for their crimes against the taxpayers. But the DNC is going to get put in the barrel first. After the election, Trump can get to work on dismantling the GOP.

  159. Fast Eddie says:

    Herschel Walker yesterday said Trump promised to fund black colleges and HE DID IT! Trump promised to create economic enterprise zones and HE DID IT! He went on to say that Oblamy and O’Biden made promises to the black community and DELIVERED NOTHING! He also said, “I take that as a personal insult, that people would think I’ve had a 37-year friendship with a racist,” he said in his three-minute speech. “People don’t know what they’re talking about. Growing up in the deep South, I’ve seen racism up close. I know what it is. And it isn’t Donald Trump.”

    I despise the f.ucking piece of shit left and all that they claim to stand for. They’re a s0cial1st-leaning, do-nothing bunch of fake, fraud, two-bit, two-faced, backsliding posers and losers! F.uck you!!

  160. homeboken says:

    FWIW -. There is precisely zero percent chance that Joe Biden could get a security clearance given the current allegations against him. Zero.

    This is your candidate. Support him if you like but just know what you are doing with that vote.

  161. leftwing says:

    LOL, I would laugh if it weren’t so pathetic. Claiming now that the hard drive is misinformation from…..drumroll please……RUSSIA. Of course. Please tell me liberals really aren’t this stupid and gullible.

    On hacks, Twitter changed its policy rapidly on Thursday. It is now only a violation when hacked information is *directly shared by the hackers*.

    This change was made to enable the NYT tax stories to remain up. Even the tool Dorsey realized the Post and Times situations were identical. If Post had to be banned, so did NYT tax story.

  162. leftwing says:

    Trump should claim the tax return information the Times are using are from China, elicited by the Bidens. LOL. I would pay to see that circus. Do it from the Oval Office desk. Very serious stare into the camera. 36 hours before polls close. Hahahaha.

    Dems/DC Establishment wants to go PT Barnum? Lightweights! We have PT himself, reincarincated!

  163. ExEssex says:

    When a bank asks for a personal guarantee, it is because the bank isn’t satisfied with the creditworthiness of the borrower,” said Richard Scott Carnell, who served as assistant secretary for financial institutions at the Treasury Department under President Bill Clinton and now teaches law at Fordham University. “If the captain gives a personal guarantee for the ship, he will be less likely to sink it.”

    Mr. Trump was asked about the debt in response to an investigation by The New York Times published last month based on a review of more than two decades of his tax-return data. The investigation found that Mr. Trump had personally guaranteed $421 million of his companies’ debts, with more than $300 million coming due within four years.

    The Times also found evidence that Mr. Trump might have difficulty repaying or refinancing the loans without liquidating assets. His main source of income in recent decades — a total of more than $427 million from entertainment and licensing deals that were fueled by his fame — has all but dried up. That cash enabled a buying spree of failing golf courses, and propped up those businesses as their losses mounted. In recent years, Mr. Trump has burned through most of the cash, stocks and bonds at his disposal and has recently explored the sale of some of his holdings, including the Trump International Hotel in Washington.

  164. leftwing says:

    “When a bank asks for a personal guarantee, it is because the bank isn’t satisfied with the creditworthiness of the borrower,” said Richard Scott Carnell…”

    Yes and no. Generally, a bank is not going to lend to an entity that it believes otherwise cannot repay the loan based on a personal guaranty. The author’s second comment is more relevant, a personal guaranty forces the owner/operator to focus more intensely than he otherwise would on the success of the entity responsible for repayment. No brainer in Trump’s case given his propensity to just walk away from failing projects.

    Was going to point out a while back the part of the article you did not quote when all the shrill liberals were shrieking about “who does he owe money, OMG it’s Russia”. It’s DB, and through the personal guarantees. From Day1 even the NYT acknowledged. No sense trying to reason with the indoctrinated though.

    Interesting to note, however, how many national news organizations were given an open mic to raise exactly that point. Guess their fact checkers and Dorsey’s guys were out those days….

    Again I dislike and will not vote for the guy but I have never in six decades of life and four decades in one of the most cutthroat businesses ever seen the flat out everyone-on-one-side-of-the-boat railroading of an individual like this…

  165. 3b says:

    Amazing how the Democrats talk about Trumps mobs, but no outrage over crowds demands reporter be fired because they don’t like the question
    He asked. Is this the new great world that the leftists want to create? Be silent or agree with me, and it will be a land of unicorns where we all shit skittles?

  166. ExEssex says:

    Teacher: oH lOoK fUn aLlAh cOmIcs.

  167. Bystander says:

    Hershel, Scott Baio, Anthony Sabato, Cain’s ghost..what a trove of famous supporters. I think Biden just go JLo and Arod.

  168. Juice Box says:

    Seems Hunter was in bed with Borat too.

    More emails this time and a picture released from a source in Kazakhstan to a UK newspaper.

    Seems ole sleeping Joe gets around with Hunter Biden’s business deals, the ones Joe claims he never spoke to his son about.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8849097/As-GUY-ADAMS-uncovers-links-suspect-regime-just-damage-Hunter-Biden-cause.html

  169. Bystander says:

    Wow, Joe has simultaneously
    a 50 year connected, Washington swamp monster, too aware of political inner workings yet also openly attended meetings with corrupt officials all over the world for his son. He must really be dumb and unaware, not a shrwed politician. I guess he is closer to Dumpy than I thought.

  170. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This is why the working man pays such high taxes…

    “Federal prosecutors have charged Texas billionaire Robert Brockman with a $2 billion tax fraud scheme in what they say is the largest such case against an American.

    Department of Justice officials said at a news conference Thursday that Brockman, 79, hid capital gains income over 20 years through a web of offshore entities in Bermuda and Nevis and secret bank accounts in Bermuda and Switzerland. Prosecutors announced that the CEO of a private equity firm that aided in the schemes would cooperate with the investigation.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tech-billionaire-charged-largest-ever-tax-fraud-hiding-2-billion-n1243776

  171. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This is a guy that got caught…how many out there getting away with it?

  172. BRT says:

    Lol Ice Cube and Trump? What about Dre and Snoop? The world makes no sense anymore.

  173. leftwing says:

    “The world makes no sense anymore.”

    World stopped making sense to me sometime in the 00s……Advice? Stop trying to figure it out. Just sit back, relax, and let it all wash by…..

  174. leftwing says:

    Heading out in the convertible to a farm in the western hinterlands of NJ and then on to a nice hike. Get out and enjoy the day. not many more like these left.

  175. AP says:

    AP momentarily back to say hi. Couldn’t post or even read the blog for a while, as I dealt with the unrelenting demands of maintaining my precarious toehold on upper middle class bliss.

    Just here to tell you I still love you all, even the loyalists on permanent trolling duty. And that Maureen Dowd is a total M1LF.

    See you again soon.

  176. homeboken says:

    Hunters laptop is real. The emails have been corroborated by multiple people that were copied on the threads.

    This is what they call a normalizing weekend for the media. Endless debate and ultimate acceptance that the laptop is legit.

    Then Monday, the real bombs start dropping.

    Joe will not be on the ticket by 11/3.

    Many here have tried to explain this to the TDS crowd but you refused to listen bc…Orange Man Bad.

    Still time to jump ship and demand corruption be rooted out.

    Or go All-In with your boys Joe and Hunter.

    Lots of us here will not forget your choices.

  177. ExEssex says:

    Hunter isn’t running for POTUS .

  178. 3b says:

    Essex That is BS and you know it.

  179. ExEssex says:

    hUntEr bIden> dOnald tRuMp jR

  180. Libturd says:

    I don’t believe hardly anything that comes from this administration. If the laptop proves out, so be it. I wonder if it’s worse than Trump’s Quid Pro Quo. Shame you can’t impeach a nominee. Right?

    Still find this whole thing a little too sloppy, but we’ll see.

    I don’t even remember who I have bets with. Pretty sure Left Wing, Homeboken and the man that goes by three names but is THE WONKIEST of them all.

    And no matter how bad Biden is proven to be, I still don’t know how he can be worse than Trump. I know it’s hard for the right wingers here to see through their bias. Much like it’s hard for Left wingers to see Obama in a bad light. But being as impartial as I possibly can be, I don’t know how you could have found Obama that bad and Trump this good. It’s like crazytown with Trump.

    Off to take the little guy to daredevils hockey at Codey.

  181. Bystander says:

    Boken’s post is like a desperate PBA bowler in final frame who needs 3 strikes, kissing that bald orange ball..

  182. ExEssex says:

    Trump getting ready to Munson (Kingpin ref.) the finals!!!

  183. homeboken says:

    You guys are sick. We all have expected that some politicians have monetized their office and power thru kickback schemes and bribes.

    Now, you are presented with a hard drive full of evidence AND a real life, named source, that was in the email threads, telling you it is true. And your response is “oh geez, I don’t know” “smells like Russia disinformation”.

    Just admit, you don’t care about corruption. You will openly support it, just as long as you don’t have to admit you are wrong.

    Time for me to take a break from posting. You guys are a joke.

  184. Bystander says:

    Ex,

    Hah, I was going to mention Big Ern but then remembered he hit those strikes . I picture that face “please”. He even has Dumpy’s weird hair comb over.

  185. Bystander says:

    Boken,

    Relax..if proven true then string em both by b@lls. I am not a Biden cult member unlike the Orange Clown posse who defends all the shady sh$t along with a corrupt Senate that would not even allow a hearing or witness.

  186. ExEssex says:

    Trump couldn’t remember his neophyte Matt Gaetz’s name today and instead
    Called him by a convicted aide’s name …..

    Gaetz could not be reached for comment but was seen gently sobbing into a blanket while his adopted son gently stroked his head.

  187. Dink says:

    Haha homeboken is becoming seriously unglued. Hes frustrated because the exact same $hit flinging playbook which worked on clinton isnt sticking to Biden. I dunno maybe bc you guys hitched your wagon to an obviously corrupt piece of human refuse your pearl clutching about anything really is laughable.

  188. Phoenix says:

    Just watched a short video of something that would be impossible in America due to the thought processes of the inhabitants here. The amount of time this would save those capable of using it. Everything in America accommodates the lowest common denominator and is legalized that way.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrj0_E0Psy8&feature=emb_logo

  189. Phoenix says:

    Crying for more money as that pit of an institution runs deeper and deeper into the red.
    The greed never seems to stop in our government institutions. Guess they want to be paid more for “telework.” Hand them a pink slip and punt them into the endzone.

    LAWSUIT: 5 Female Rutgers Professors Sue University Over Equal Pay

    https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/morris/news/lawsuit-5-female-rutgers-professors-sue-university-over-equal-pay/796186/

  190. BRT says:

    Here’s the issue I have. My general experience is that most females want a safety net over a higher salary. I have two former coworker where I tried to convince them to apply to positions where they would likely get $25k more….a 30-40% bump in pay! They refuse because they like to sit comfortable in their tenure rather than the possibility that you could get fired. These professors are likely in the same boat. They have tenure, but they would rather keep that and get paid higher through some sort of lawsuit than negotiate a higher paying job elsewhere at another university. The male professors, in my experience, had no issue leaving the school of Rutgers for more money. There were plenty of males that were comfortable in their tenure as well, but it’s because they chose to slack off after obtaining it. The workhorses were the ones more likely to job hunt.

    That being said, my 11 years at Rutgers, I saw the university go way out of their way to hire excess female faculty because they took pride in having the “highest percentage of tenured women faculty” in the nation. In grad school, they designed fellowships exclusively for the women in science or engineering to try to attract more applicants. They got paid $30k to the average male’s $18k. Kinda silly to claim discrimination in that type of environment.

  191. SundayFall suntanning says:

    Phoenix, is just not drivers’ licenses and training but also car & road engineering. Autobahn asphalt and concrete have double the depth bed or US road standards. You can’t do that in GSP unevenness and potholes as you willlose control.
    To all you Trumpistas, well Orangegatan is saying he would leave the US if Biden wins and I agree. But not by his own choice but more of protection for all the investigations,lawsuits and arrest from his tax, business cheating and traitor ways.

    He will do Michael Jackson. Either some Middle East kingdom or even Israelor more likely Moscow.

  192. Phoenix says:

    Phoenix, is just not drivers’ licenses and training but also car & road engineering. Autobahn asphalt and concrete have double the depth bed or US road standards. You can’t do that in GSP unevenness and potholes as you will lose control.”

    Even if you built the roads to better standards than the Germans you can’t accomplish it due to American personalities. Hell, we can’t even get up past 80 mph due to the American psyche.

    It’s not the asphalt..

  193. Phoenix says:

    A post. Will just leave this one here for all to ponder. Feel free to comment as you see fit.

    https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/10/my-husband-died-of-covid-19-and-i-have-just-one-plea-of-you-opinion.html

  194. Chicago says:

    Phx: Mr 186 had his windshield wipers activated? Wet conditions?

  195. Libturd says:

    Phoenix,

    I coached their kids and knew Officer Roberts well. My opinion of Trump matches his widow to the T. I am not surprised that she blames him. I do too. Stay safe through the next surge.

  196. SomeOne says:

    BRT,

    In grad school, they designed fellowships exclusively for the women in science or engineering to try to attract more applicants. They got paid $30k to the average male’s $18k. Kinda silly to claim discrimination in that type of environment.

    Which decade are these numbers from? They may be isolated instances. It my also be possible that the comparison may be across departments or different types of scholarships.

  197. ExEssex says:

    The whole grad school paradigm needs a major overhaul.
    Same with college sports. Watch the pandemic upend things a bit.

  198. BRT says:

    Which decade are these numbers from? They may be isolated instances. It my also be possible that the comparison may be across departments or different types of scholarships.

    1998 to 2009. And it was most definitely not isolated. I had to review the grants that were worth millions of dollars from the NIH to increase women and minority participation in science and engineering. If you, for one second, think it was more prevalent back then, then you’ve been asleep the past 10 years. At the time, Rutgers was awarded a 60 million dollar grant from the NIH and industries to build a center dedicated to this cause.

  199. Crushednjmillenial says:

    Why is Fulop a crook?

    I suppose he fooled me. I really believed he was a Goldman guy, inspired by 9/11 to join military and then came to JC politics and applied common sense (Pro-economy, smart policy, pro-development, less corruption) to create good results.

  200. SomeOne says:

    BRT,

    My experience being around Rutgers for a while, I can say that a grad student’s expenses would be very much within a narrow range as far as salaries are concerned. Before Rutgers and UMDNJ merged, Rutgers had a comprehensive health plan for TAs and RAs, while UMDNJ didn’t. Even then, the 30k vs 18k looks very peculiar. Also, the TA/RA salaries went up from a bit under 18k in late 90’s to a bit under 30k by 2009. There wasn’t a widespread disparity in stipends with same department.

    I am not trying to be difficult, but have you considered the possibility that some of the things can be due to one grad student being in something like CompSci/engineering (higher stipend) and another in microbiology (lower stipend)?

  201. JCer says:

    Crushed, Fulop’s dealings with the real estate developers and some of the ways that property owned by the city was redeveloped was corrupt. My father who was a contributor and supporter of Fulop’s indicated that there were questionable things going on in Jersey City. My dad introduced McGreevy to Fulop, getting him the position in the JC employment program. McGreevy wanted back into politics and the power brokers in NJ didn’t want anything to do with him. Fulop engages in dirty NJ style pay to play politics and could care less about his constituents it’s all about the developers and their campaign contributions. Fulop is very ambitious, he wants to be the governor. Was a finance guy, joined the military post 9/11 for his presumptive political career, the guy is good at it that’s the difference…..that’s why you and many others have been fooled. Everyone knew what the Healy machine was and how things worked compared to Fulop their corruption was amateur hour.

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