C19 Open Discussion Week 41

From CNN:

US Covid-19 vaccinations expected to begin Monday as CDC head gives final nod

US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield gave the final nod Sunday to the first coronavirus vaccine for the United States, clearing the way for shots to start. 

Redfield accepted the recommendation of the agency’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices that Pfizer and BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine may be given to people 16 and older.

The first shots are expected to begin on Monday.

“This official CDC recommendation follows Friday’s FDA decision to authorize the emergency use of Pfizer’s vaccine. As COVID-19 cases continue to surge throughout the U.S., CDC’s recommendation comes at a critical time,” Redfield said in a statement.

“Initial COVID-19 vaccination is set to start as early as Monday, and this is the next step in our efforts to protect Americans, reduce the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, and help restore some normalcy to our lives and our country.”

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157 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 41

  1. Phoenix says:

    Frist

  2. Bystander says:

    I guess this throws out Ed’s theory on peaceful, red hat clown supporters who would never cause violence. More to come as cult starts to realize millions in donations yet from Orange adolph will be out in his big @$$ shortly.

    Several people were stabbed and 23 arrested as ‘Stop the Steal’ protesters and counter-protesters clash in Washington, DC

  3. Bystander says:

    Counter protesters should have brought AK-17 and took out a few red hats out. Protecting our small businesses of course. Little Dick Scroeder would aid legal defense fund, right?

  4. OK. Start of the
    bored
    old
    retired
    Angry
    Unrelated
    Useless
    Offtopic

    Posts…This blog needs some mods to control this chaos.

  5. NotPumpSupporter IS AnIdiotLikePumpProper says:

    Oh heavens to betsy, we got ourselves a Traitor that worships bad real estate deals, dealmakers, and Putin’s b!tch.

    He’s extra sensitive today, as he got his “Proud H0m0 Boys” rear end kicked by his original old-G anti-faCIST WW2 marine D-Day disembarking 110 year old covid 19 ridden and sneezing great grandfather.

    Let’s call it what it is. Trump is a seditious traitor. One thing Biden needs to do, is to start going after the far right nationalist/ white supremacist. At this point they are no different then the communist movement from the 1930’s forward, as both were controlled and guided by mother Russia. A few days ago, a bunch of website started publishing the personal data of those election officials that Trump opposed, all came from Russia.

  6. PlentyOfIdiotsTraitorsInThisCountry says:

    In sad news John le Carre died at 89. But related to it, why it was a matter of time before it happened with so much outsourced worked. Yes, it looks like someone paid off an outsourced source to put in the code.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-treasury-exclsuive/suspected-russian-hackers-spied-on-u-s-treasury-emails-sources-idUSKBN28N0PG

    There is concern within the U.S. intelligence community that the hackers who targeted Treasury and the Commerce Department’s National Telecommunications and Information Administration used a similar tool to break into other government agencies, according to four people briefed on the matter.

    The people did not say which other agencies, but late Sunday Austin, Texas-based IT company SolarWinds said software updates it released in March and June of this year may have been surreptitiously tampered with in a “highly-sophisticated, targeted and manual supply chain attack by a nation state.”

    SolarWinds stopped short of saying the hack at Treasury occurred via them, but two of the people familiar with the investigation said the company was believed to be the channel by which the hackers got in.

    A representative for SolarWinds did not immediately return messages seeking comment.

    SolarWinds says on its website that its customers inlcude most of America’s Fortune 500 companies, all top ten U.S. telecommunications providers, all five branches of the U.S. military, the State Department, the National Security Agency, and the Office of President of the United States.

  7. Notpumpsupporter says:

    Forgot to add,

    Deillusioned
    Jobless
    H1 fearful
    Lazy
    Old school
    Dejected
    Depressed
    and
    Stressed out

  8. A Home Buyer says:

    Bystander,

    Id appreciate the news source you have that indicates who was injured and who did the stabbings.

    I’m having no luck finding it.

  9. Bystander says:

    Oh, the “victims” were 4 Proud boys members, part of a peaceful stand by rally where they arsoned banners from Black churches and destroyed BLM signs. This thing called internet has search engines..but you are looking for excuses for Proud boy behavior, no?

  10. Notpumpsupporter says:

    Some of the victims were police officers..

    I hope people aren’t forgetting to take their meds on a Sunday evening. COVID is making people hallucinate. Oh boy

    DC Fire and EMS transported at least nine from the protest area Saturday evening, including the four stabbing victims, who were said to be in critical condition, according to DC Mayor Muriel Bowser’s office; two police officers with non-life-threatening injuries and two people with minor injuries, the public information office said Saturday night. DC Fire and EMS later confirmed it assisted an additional assault victim at 11th Street and F Street NW.

  11. A Home Buyer says:

    Bystander,

    Actually, I was looking for exactly what I asked. I read 6 articles and none mentioned one way or another other giving generalities.

    I’d still the article you found that in, if your quite done being prick.

  12. A Home Buyer says:

    *I’d still Request the article

  13. BRT says:

    So in conclusion, it’s ok to stab someone, just not shoot them?

  14. 1987 Condo says:

    HUGE Google outage…

  15. Grim says:

    Looks like I gotta tune up the snow blower today

  16. ReadRealNewsIsBetter says:

    Look up NY Times. Reporter saw it in front of him. H0m0Boys went after a black guy standing across bar. They beat him up to a pulp. He happened to have minute and defended himself to unconsciousness.

  17. ReadRealNewsIsBetter says:

    Standing across street from bar. Black guy had a knife and defended himself until he was unconscious.

  18. Libturd says:

    Grim,

    As of now (storm just moved from the Pacific over to the Northwest) 12-16″ in our parts. 40+ MPH gusts too, so windswept. Portions further west could get another 8 on top of this.

    I tuned mine up two weeks ago. Replaced the blades on my mower too for an impossible price. $38 for the oil, the blades and a spark plug on Ebay. All genuine Honda. Now I can send the old ones in to be sharpened and still mow all season. Put the Scorpions and Blizzaks on the Mazdas yesterday too.

    Speaking of Mazda, the were ranked number one for reliability by CR this year. For the record, CX9 broke 100K and our 6 is at 90K. Neither has had a repair besides the typical exhaust system replacement on the CX9 around 90K. Once, the computer had to be reset on the transmission on the CX9 too. Really, a very good run to 100K. I pity the fools who pay for warranties.

  19. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    How soon before we start to hear that it’s racist to be giving out the vaccine in newark?

  20. Phoenix says:

    “Put the Scorpions and Blizzaks on the Mazdas yesterday too.”

    And one person driving a Camaro or other rear wheel drive will keep you sitting in traffic anyway.
    Never fails.

    Lib was it you that bought the Honda clone weedwacker thing from China? Did you ever get it?

  21. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    The democrats may steal the election, trumps presidency may be over, but clearly TDS in some form is here to stay. Evidenced by the increasing frequency of the incoherent often mixed case screeds found online. It’s a primary trait of the new intolerant left.

  22. Phoenix says:

    Hope “SaltBae” Murphy is putting it down Wednesday.

  23. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Lol. They played the misogyny card? Really?

    An EdD referring to themselves as dr is a reach, in particular any government bought degree should be scrutinized. Has a school ever denied admittance to someone who is paying with a government check? Doubtful. Advanced degrees designed to inflate credentials and government paychecks are suspect.

  24. BRT says:

    An EdD degree is something every administrator in education gets to pad their salary. They all obtain it while working full time in a school and raising kids. Most of them are online and a complete joke. I’ve yet to meet a single person in education with an EdD that wasn’t completely worthless.

  25. Libturd says:

    Phoenix,

    That was me. It arrived and it appears authentic. The only guy who lost in that buy American rant was the reseller. Not many reliable American brands left. Speaking of reliable. Tesla, with a P/E of 1200, was the lowest rank car brand according to CR. This is incredible considering that EVs should be much more reliable than ICE driven cars since there are so many fewer moving parts.

  26. Fast Eddie says:

    The democrats may steal the election, trumps presidency may be over, but clearly TDS in some form is here to stay.

    It’s a head start attempt to hide the failures of the O’Biden administration. I believe the progressives and democrats are furious and jealous that Trump got so much done, had so much success that their side wishes they could do the same. What the left fails to realize over and over is that they need a legitimate agenda first. Dreams of a s0c1al utopia is not a tangible goal; symbols are not measures of success; activism is not a device that yields results. The left clamors for progress but are not willing to implement a real plan. And now, they’re stuck with O’Biden, a fossil of a man with no ideas and just a peg to fit into an open space.

  27. Grim says:

    Glad to see Murphy is turning the vax into a photo op.

  28. Fast Eddie says:

    …and the fact that people are getting vaccinated at this moment nine months after an unknown sickness brought us to our knees. It kills the democrats that this is happening on Trump’s watch.

  29. Libturd says:

    “It kills the democrats that this is happening on Trump’s watch.”

    I don’t think the vaccines are attributed to anything more than good old American ingenuity fostered by freedom. This is hardly a partisan issue. If you want partisan jealousy, it’s trying to build up the assassination of Baghdadi to match the enormity of Obama’s Bin Laden take down. Trump can’t go five minutes without mentioning Baghdadi. I can only imagine how much time he spent trying to memorize his full name. Perhaps he should have spent a few minutes on learning how to pronounce Thailand?

  30. Libturd says:

    Here is a remark from Trump’s transcript after the Baghdadi killing. Good riddance to the moron in chief.

    “You know, these people are very smart. They’re not into the use of cellphones anymore. They’re not — they’re very technically brilliant. You know, they use the Internet better than almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump.”

    Oy effin vey!

    This is not even taken out of context. Read it for yourself.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-death-isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi/

  31. Fast Eddie says:

    This is hardly a partisan issue. If you want partisan jealousy, it’s trying to build up the assassination of Baghdadi to match the enormity of Obama’s Bin Laden take down.

    It is a partisan issue, deeply partisan and nobody was comparing the takedowns of those two terr0rists. This is horrible comparison. The left is an angry, bitter and resentful bunch. And for anyone responding, including you, don’t start telling me about Qanon shit, this past Saturday or any other event, thought, idea, etc. to justify the left’s unmitigated derangement not only about the Trump administration but any absurd, ridiculous, off the wall ideas of the last 60 years.

  32. Libturd says:

    “You know, they use the Internet better than almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump.”

    :P

    I suppose, Gore might have invented it. But I had no idea Trump mastered it.

  33. Bystander says:

    His whole presidency is black c*ck jealousy. It started with his small hands and defending himself and the rest of his time has been trying to dismantle everything Obama, while claiming his little accomplishments are enormous accomplishments. You have to wonder if he caught Melania with some mondongo vid and now exacting punishment.

  34. Juice Box says:

    Electoral College votes today to affirm Biden’s win, so just 37 more days folks. I would think by now the TDS would be wearing off, there is no chance now.

  35. Libturd says:

    https://i.imgur.com/8aAqa6p.gif

    Wednesday’s storm is looking more and more like it’s going to be a monster. Someone better remind that turkey Murphy to brine.

  36. ExEssex says:

    10:01 uh okay

  37. Fast Eddie says:

    Days after becoming president-elect, Biden announced a team of advisers that will spearhead his pandemic response once he takes office. The task force will be led by Dr. David Kessler, a former Food and Drug Administration commissioner; former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy; and Dr. Marcella Nunez-Smith, an associate professor of medicine and epidemiology at Yale School of Medicine.

    “The advisory board will help shape my approach to managing the surge in reported infections; ensuring vaccines are safe, effective, and distributed efficiently, equitably, and free; and protecting at-risk populations,” Biden said in a statement Monday morning.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVO5bUFww0

  38. 3b says:

    Fast Just a question, why do you refer to Biden as O’ Biden?

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    Fast Just a question, why do you refer to Biden as O’ Biden?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/08/joe_biden_declares_himself_an_obiden-bama_democrat.html

    It was the O’Biden-Bama administration. He changed his name, apparently.

  40. Fast Eddie says:

    Perhaps he should have spent a few minutes on learning how to pronounce Thailand?

    Perhaps O’Biden can learn to pronounce the name of his HHS department… the one HE appointed.

  41. EppesEssen says:

    For Trump, the Electoral College vote likely marks the end of his wide-ranging legal effort to remain in power. While his legal team and their allies have talked of continuing their litigation, they have also pointed to the Electoral College vote as a crucial and essentially irreversible milestone. Over the weekend, the Trump campaign began airing television ads amplifying his fabricated claims of election fraud, urging voters to “stop the steal.” Both ads were immediately removed from YouTube for violating its new policies on election-related content

  42. ExEssex says:

    Democrat Joe Biden will be confirmed as president-elect Monday as the Electoral College meets to finalize the election result
    President Donald Trump and his allies, however, are planning a new stunt to prolong reality
    White House aide Stephen Miller said Monday morning that ‘an alternate slate of electors’ would meet in contested states and vote for Trump
    Trump critic George Conway mocked the plot saying, ‘they’re going to declare … Mar-a-Lago the “alternative” Executive Mansion’

  43. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Good read from WSJ. My wife is going through this right now.

    That first chart is telling…

    “We’re getting our work done, but we feel pretty miserable. In a September survey of 330 human resources leaders by the Conference Board, 47% of respondents reported an increase in productivity at their companies, while only 13% reported a drop. But 60% said their employees are working more hours and 63% said their employees are spending more time in meetings. Four out of 10 reported more mental health problems among workers.”

    https://apple.news/AX3kWNE3LSq6yytnCpva5jQ

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Might hate the commute, but it served a mental purpose for people with demanding jobs like my wife. A break from work and life.

    “Part of it is surely the work itself—we’re exhausted from back-to-back video calls, without even a commute as buffer between work and life. We’re scared of losing our livelihoods. And then there’s the health crisis: 78% of participants in an American Psychological Association survey of 3,409 adults said the pandemic was a significant source of stress, so it’s no surprise that’s bleeding into our work lives.”

  45. JCer says:

    Trumps chances of remaining in power have been nil for a while. That being said cheering for the lawlessness that occurred during this election because you hate the orange man is despicable. Everything the Trump admin was accused of doing the democrats pursued in the 2020 election(unconstitutional power grabs, foreign interference, etc).

    There can be no excuse for ignoring your own states election laws. There can be no excuses for shenanigans that undermine trust in the electoral process. No late night “counting stops” where the counting doesn’t stop, broken pipes that aren’t broken, taped up windows in counting rooms, votes counted in secret, ballots moving around without proper chain of custody. No doubt there was some ballot harvesting, did it change the outcome of the election? Maybe in some places. The democrats deserve to be smacked down hard over a coordinated effort to cheat, people should lose their jobs and some should go to jail. A third of the electorate doubts the integrity of the election process, that is no joke and is a serious matter that demands attention. I’m not saying Trump should stay in but a real investigation needs to happen, a real audit needs to happen and lawlessness at the state level most certainly needs to be addressed.

    Left vs. right violence in the streets will become more common, just hope for all of our sake it doesn’t escalate like the Spanish civil war, we already have a contested election all we need is some abuse of power and political assassinations and we on that road…..

  46. JCer says:

    pumps 100% work from home sucks, anyone who is being honest with themselves knows it. Instead of 15 minutes in front of a white board to discuss it is 3 hours of phone calls as 10 people all understand what is being discussed differently and the dynamics of a remote work environment don’t allow things to be easily sorted. Instead of after work drinks and holiday parties we are sitting at home, so much of our social interaction occurs in the workplace. Companies will march down this road and later decide it was a mistake, but much like the offshoring each company will chase the savings and pretend for as long as possible it was a good choice……

  47. leftwing says:

    “It kills the democrats that this is happening on Trump’s watch.”

    “I don’t think the vaccines are attributed to anything more than good old American ingenuity fostered by freedom.”

    Both statements are true.

    Problem is, under Dems the vaccine effort would have been buried under top down micromanagement. There is no such thing as good old ingenuity fostered by freedom under Dems.

    Biden was hilarious a week or so ago….when his (false) claims of no plan whatsoever for distribution expired worthless he turned to (shrill) warnings that there was no ‘plan’ to get the vaccine “out of the vial, into the syringe, and into someone’s arm”.

    Read that again. Slowly. Yes, he literally said it. Aplan to get vaccine from a vial injected into a patient.

    Gee, Joe, isn’t that a nurse or doc, you dumb fcuk? You need a ‘plan’ for that? Seriously?

    I can only imagine the bullsh1t hoops the pharma companies would have had to jump through had this vaccine development been attempted under a Dem Admin…..

    Thought processes like the above can only come from a l1beral mind pickled in 48 years of big government.

  48. leftwing says:

    “There is no detailed plan, that we’ve seen anyway, as to how you get the vaccine out of a container, into an injection syringe, into somebody’s arm,” Biden said in the clip shown by Wallace.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/528934-azar-calls-biden-claim-on-vaccine-plan-nonsense

    Dumb fcuk.

  49. ExEssex says:

    WFH is the best thing to ever happen to me. I am pretty sure this is the most pleasant experience as a worker for over 25 years in the workforce, that I have ever had.
    Screw the commute, the crappy chairs, the weird-ass co-workers…..I take my breaks by the pool.

  50. Libturd says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/us/politics/trump-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine.html

    Is this one of Trump’s accomplishments? Moron. He only had to pay if it worked and he still chose not to.

  51. Juice Box says:

    re: “work from home sucks” and “Companies will march down this road and later decide it was a mistake”.

    Just like after 9/11 people did not want to work in high rise buildings for a while. It took a few years to get over that, some never did and moved away from big cities. I knew a few who did that.

    When you need to work you will work, right now companies want NO prospect of liability for COVID-19 transmission in office buildings, and are waiting for Congress to shield them, before mandating people return to the office. That may or may not happen in the next bailout congress is working on still. Mitch McConnell wants it for sure even though it may not be needed because the vaccine is now here, and companies really have to be negligent and careless for legal cases to move forward due to covid-19 transmission in an office setting.

    A few places have reopened and closed again do to cases popping up, that will continue as the local heath depts will mandate closings as soon as there is any breakout in a office, warehouse or even factory setting.

    We will go hybrid for a few years and then who knows, perhaps mandatory screenings for all kinds of illness when you show up at work. I don’t want to be around someone with herpes, flu, or any norovirus which seems to make it’s way though office buildings more than anything else. I cannot count how many times I have been in meetings and a day or so later most of those people in the meeting were now home shitting themselves from a norovirus that spread do to close contact in a sealed up room.

  52. Juice Box says:

    Essex re: I take my breaks by the pool.

    It’s 55 F right now in LA. I don’t doubt your pool is open but I doubt you are swimming unless you are burning a Benjamin a day to keep it warm.

  53. ExEssex says:

    12:26 no kidding! It’s a big pool….takes $$$ to heat.
    55 degrees current water temp. (.)(.)

  54. Juice Box says:

    re: “55 degrees current water temp”

    Yeah a baller like you needs one of these covers, there are a few versions that work well to keep the heat in the water, as almost all the heat loss from the swimming pool itself is due to evaporation from the surface.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bflTXq-690

  55. leftwing says:

    Lib, serious question, do you believe Trump is more stupid than many political contemporaries?

    I grant you he is more publicly demonstrable, putting his idiocy on display daily.

    But on a pure intellect level, do you really believe, say, Kamala has more brainpower than Trump? Not snarking or trolling, but asking seriously.

    Kamala v Trump. Actual intelligence and street smarts, head to head. No consideration to presentation. Who do you pick?

  56. leftwing says:

    Not calling a market top, because I don’t attempt such things, but….

    Two companies over the weekend walked away from major IPOs on the table. Leaving the money lying there, at a price higher than the filing price. Because they want to rearrange the offerings a bit and doing so will take to mid-Jan to refile the docs with the SEC and round up the investors again, more than somewhat presumptively expecting them to be there……

    Three decades in the business and I cannot ever recall that happening. Let alone in the midst of a major pandemic while heading into a new Admin and a possible turnover of power in Congress…..

    Top? No idea. Crazy ass exuberance? Off the charts…….

    Started legging into a short position on the airlines through options….mostly AAL. Do your own diligence on price, maybe JETS is better….See some lines on AAL around 14 and 11, would look to cut and run if it went through 18.50-19.00 for a few days on volume and held. YMMV.

  57. Fast Eddie says:

    “Anybody who can go down 3,000 feet in a mine can sure as hell learn to program as well,” Biden told an audience in Derry, N.H. “Anybody who can throw coal into a furnace can learn how to program, for G0d’s sake!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJXKie2xCoQ

  58. ExEssex says:

    12:36 nice!

  59. BRT says:

    “Anybody who can go down 3,000 feet in a mine can sure as hell learn to program as well,” Biden told an audience in Derry, N.H. “Anybody who can throw coal into a furnace can learn how to program, for G0d’s sake!”

    Here’s the problem with “everyone learning to code”. Comp sci was for nerds in the 90s. Most the programs I used in the 90s and early 2000s were brilliantly written. I rarely had any issues. Fast forward to today, the average programmers in general has dropped dramatically. I’m constantly going “what idiot wrote that or decided that?”.
    The talented ones are still there but they are diluted in a sea of crap.

  60. ExEssex says:

    Pools are strange. Not 100% sure i’d buy another house with a pool.
    Jacuzzi sure. Pool maybe.

  61. JCer says:

    BRT they don’t want to pay US, we are “Too Expensive”. My application has 2 technical people in the US and we do not write code, it’s me and a guy with a PHD and we spend the majority of our time trying to direct 40 people in India. We are paid well to not write code, if we wrote code we would have been downsized, replaced by someone on a visa or overseas. Google, Amazon, and few others are a vacuum sucking up all the top talent, there is such a need for developers and a dearth of qualified ones. The big issue is employers are wholly unwilling to invest in their employees, technology moves fast and skills shift, if companies were willing to re-train existing technical people they wouldn’t have such problems but alas it is cheaper to just ask an outsourcing company for the skill you are looking for.

    Most people writing code today are ignorant of how computers actually work and that is the problem, you can teach most people to write some code, it falls down because they don’t understand the architecture the code runs on, the engineering principles, or the magic performed beneath the scenes to make this stuff run. Without this knowledge they are inclines to do things which are bad practices and make for fragile applications with poor performance.

  62. JCer says:

    pools are a pain in the a$$. They constantly have issues, the filtration/heater/pump periodically breaking, mysterious supply or return leaks, algae and staining, periodic acid washing….. I grew up with one, my sister has one, I don’t want one. Between maintenance and utilities costs I don’t think it’s worth it, under normal circumstances we aren’t home enough and really a pool in NJ is useful June-Sept and even then I only like to go in when it is uncomfortably hot outside. During lock down it would have been useful, but normally it’s a waste.

  63. BRT says:

    Google may be sucking up all the talent, but they are sucking up a lot of crappy programmers as well. Sheets is a godawful program and there are all kinds of bugs involved in switching between 4 or 5 google accounts.

  64. Juice Box says:

    I have done work with GCP their platform in many ways is still hodge-podge from acquisitions etc, like their Apigee API Platform not sure if it is native yet. Pre-pandemic when visiting their offices I used to laugh at the programmers sleeping in those semi-private spaces during the middle of the day, they say their most productive hours are at night. But I know better, more like the City Never Sleeps…I did it for years partied all night and worked all day. It would have been nice to have a place to nod off in the office. It must be a dreary existence for a 20 something now in NYC no-where but the underground scene, house party or maybe an outdoor “protest” aka party with DJ and drinks.

  65. Phoenix says:

    Buy her a Lexus for Christmas. Happy wife happy life.

    https://youtu.be/WcEylCwkSxE

  66. ExEssex says:

    Rats…..leave sinking ship.

    Buh bye Barr.

  67. Bystander says:

    More like Bye evil Babar and take Orange Lord Rataxes with you. Yes, I have young kids.

  68. leftwing says:

    So…just watched an incredibly uplifting, we are all in this together, American ingenuity message on the closing of CBS Evening News with Nora O’Donnell…..

    Only made possible, of course, because they broke in the regularly scheduled report to announce CA put Biden over the top at the EC….

    Joe’s in office….unity, peace, common effort. Of course.

    FCUK YOU. You hypocritical, power hungry, abusive assholes…

    I specifically do not count myself as one of them but I hope the active Right takes to the streets and burns it down.

    No Unity. No Peace.

  69. Bystander says:

    Sad left..all this anger over a bankrupt, lying, twitter addicted, washed up reality TV star who wears burnt orange clown makeup #7. The right is troubled and sick. You should officially join.

  70. leftwing says:

    6:16pm….LOLOL.

    Few things I find more aggravating than the bow tied vehicle in the driveway Christmas commercials….was always like WTF….although they are usually parked outside of pretty cool modern houses.

    There’s a hottie little fake blonde tweaking the Lexus ads in a Honda (?) commercial…”What, did you expect a red bow?”. Ha.

  71. leftwing says:

    Nawww…you’ve missed the point for years….my anger is over the uber-controlling Left…the Orange Freak is a putz, we’re in agreement there.

  72. ExEssex says:

    7:00 wow you just let your inner psycho out.
    Love it!! Hey it was a fair election.

  73. leftwing says:

    Your anger was with the Orange Putz

  74. Juice Box says:

    People have very short memories. The previous administration had a better Attorney General? Holder single handedly invented too big to prosecute. He had done more damage to Justice than perhaps any Attorney General. At least Barr is going after Big Tech for Antitrust, just to give it to Biden’s AG to sweep it under the rug.

  75. leftwing says:

    Nope…I’m a big “equity” player….you know, or maybe (likely) you don’t….the “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander” kind of stuff. It matters to me.

    That ethical compass has hurt me in the past…in various work situations, in the divorce…But I’m OK with that. I sleep well at night. My life is above board.

    From before he was elected I’ve stated DJT is unfit and a freak….BUT….what is much more dangerous is the control and lying by the Left. Unprecedented.

    So, yeah, paint me whatever color you want, because you will….Not that you care I was literally the kid leading and bearing the flag in the 4th of July parades, ROTC, can still get choked up at the National Anthem….Basically an all around deplorable schmuck by Leftist standards.

    I could literally give two fcuks about what happens to DJT and believe the Republic is in much better shape if he just permanently exits the stage now…however…what has been demonstrated over his term is that the Left Establishment is infinitely more dangerous to this country than any bankrupt carnival barker populist could ever dream to be.

    Good luck with the dementia patient. And, yeah, out of pure “we got ours, you deserve yours” I do sincerely hope there are bodies in the streets. For real.

    No Unity. No Peace.

  76. Bystander says:

    Actually I hated the Orange clown my whole life. We was annoying a$$hole in the 80s and 90s. I never watched a minute of his douche reality show. My ex gave me Trump cufflinks in 2006 and I promptly them in trash. My anger is same as previous three decades when I saw his faux, squished, tough guy acting face. Seeing millions fall for his branding act was pathetic but his stoking every racist gun nut is the real anger. He platformed their victimhood. That will be his legacy. If you want violence then it is because you have been tricked by the Alex Jones, Limbaugh, Faux news conspiracy brigade, sponsored majorly by Trump and Bannon.

  77. joyce says:

    Indian State’s Health Authority Approves & Distributes Ivermectin & Doxycycline to Treat COVID-19 as Prophylaxis

    https://trialsitenews.com/goa-game-changer-indian-states-health-authority-approves-distributes-ivermectin-doxycycline-to-treat-covid-19-as-prophylaxis/

  78. leftwing says:

    “If you want violence then it is because you have been tricked by the Alex Jones, Limbaugh, Faux news conspiracy brigade, sponsored majorly by Trump and Bannon.”

    Watched Fox News maybe five times over the last two decades…basically because I wanted noise on in the background and I had already exhausted every episode of Two and a Half Men and Netflix has too many options for my OCD.

    So I really have no idea who Alex jones is and only know Limbaugh by reference from other media. Thus proving, as i said above, you will paint me whatever color is convenient for you.

    And, as a Leftist, I would not expect you to understand ‘equity’. I want payback for the Left’s antics over the last four years. In every regard.

  79. 3 says:

    Essex 2016 was a fair election, and the left went on the warpath for 4 years. Are fair elections only if the left approves the outcome?

  80. ExEssex says:

    At least we can say Merry Christmas again.

  81. 3b says:

    Jcer WFH is great! As Essex said no commute no hassles or interruptions all around better quality of life. Except for those who have young kids in school I don’t anyone who does not like WFH. And when the lockdown is over and schools open and we resume activities WFH will be even better. It’s not going away regardless of what one person here says who isn’t even working in corporate America.

  82. 3b says:

    Anybody on a packed Nj transit train or metro north or LIRR or subway train , with no heat in winter or ac in summer not to mention repeated breakdowns and obnoxious smelly commuters is not getting a break from stress . Anyone who actually does the commute would know.

  83. Bystander says:

    Sure, left..good to know your purview on antics is last 4 years yet somehow not Trump related. Whatever you want to believe. Equity and Karma, two BS concepts.

  84. Chicago says:

    Juice: you really want to fcuk with a serial killer? Need I remind you that he drove from San Diego to Chicago to Miami over a matter of days. He could do inland LA to Monmouth County in a flash.

    Juice Box says:
    December 14, 2020 at 12:26 pm
    Essex re: I take my breaks by the pool.

    It’s 55 F right now in LA. I don’t doubt your pool is open but I doubt you are swimming unless you are burning a Benjamin a day to keep it warm

  85. ExEssex says:

    Born in National City, California on August 31, 1969 to Modesto Cunanan, a Navy veteran turned stockbroker, and Mary Anne Schillaci, Andrew Phillip Cunanan was the youngest of four children. As Maureen Orth reports in her book Vulgar Favors, Cunanan had an IQ of 147, making him incredibly bright for his age. Cunanan attended The Bishop’s School in La Jolla, California, a private school where most of the other students came from families that were wealthier than his.

    In order to fit in, Cunanan made up stories about his background, which has led many to believe that he showed early signs of antisocial personality disorder—previously referred to as psychopathy or sociopathy. Cunanan would even change his appearance throughout school according to what he felt was most attractive at the time. Later in life, Cunanan would claim that his father was an Israeli millionaire and a Fifth Avenue aristocrat.

  86. Fabius Maximus says:

    So a question for the guitar players.

    I’m in the market for a Fender Jazzmaster. My internet came across this. https://gr-8-gift.com/product/dire-straits-band-signed-fender-jazzmaster-sunset-electric-guitar

    Now I’m not a big fan of signed guitars, but if someone is going to sign, I’m happy with Knopfler and Co. Now this is not a Jazzmaster, but I have a big but? ( cue SirMixALot)

    1) I think I am looking at a Jaguar with the humbuckers and the phase. How much of a difference am I going to see from the Jazz with the different pickups, but the same Rhythm/ Lead and tone split.

    2) Would you buy a guitar over the internet without playing it given the provenance?

  87. Juice Box says:

    Chi – Inland? From what I know Kim Kardashian is his neighbor and he wears his speedos around pool around to impress Kayne incase he is interested.

  88. Juice Box says:

    SNL has been shit for a while but occasionally there is this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcEylCwkSxE

  89. Libturd says:

    Leftwing.

    How to answer your very interesting question? I really do not think Trump is terribly intelligent. What I knew of him before he became a politician was this. As a kid, I remember Trump Air (failing). I remember and attended a number of Generals games and remember the Herschel Walker signing. Another monstrous failure and we all knew it. There was no competing with the USFL. I remember my parents taking me to his casin0s. First the Plaza, then the Marina and finally the Taj. All were over-the-top gauche. I remember my parents constantly talking about the silliness of it. Especially the concept of building the Taj Majal in Atlantic City. Three more failures. I also recall him wanting to open a casin0 in Vegas, but he was not allowed to. Instead, he built that horrible looking brass tower. It wasn’t even on the strip. He was certainly trying to measure up to the Wynn’s, Adelson’s and Icohn’s, but again failing miserably. I remember his nasty divorce with Ivana and her failed attempt at opening a casin0 in Vegas. Just failure everywhere. Worst of all, everyone knew he was given some serious seed money, so it was not as if he was a Bloomberg or dare I say, even a Corzine. He was born on third, as they like to say. Only, he was having a very hard time finding a way to home. For a while there I forgot he existed, until he started as a regular guest on Howard Stern. He was truly an amazing guest in that he was brutally honest (or at least made himself appear to be). These were the days when Howard was all about str1ppers and pron and Donald and Howard would spend countless hours judging celebrities by their appearances and the two would often jab over politics with Trump as the more liberal of the two. Trump was extremely likeable as a guest which parlayed quite nicely into his role on The Apprentice. I watched one episode and realized that the show was as fake and stupid as any other reality show, but saw why it was popular. Trump has always had mass appeal to the easily fooled. This is where I shaped my PT Barnum characterization of him.

    Then came the 2016 election. I watched that first campaign ad with the promises to ban Muslim travel, build a wall and make Mexico pay, etc. I looked at Gator and said, “you’ve got to be kidding.” Then I remembered how Howard once decided to run for Governor of New York and had to back down after two weeks without campaigning as he zoomed to the lead in the polls. The masses are asses. I can’t repeat this enough. He had that mass ass appeal. And HRC? She appealed to one type of person only. Women’s Liberators. I think most men were turned off by the fact she stuck with Bill even as he cheated on her regularly. Now in contrast with Trump. Trump is a known cheater and seems to cycle through women like I do underwear. But this is attractive to the average male. After all, we are a “The Bachelor” nation. We are a nation that found three guys and three girls in two apartments with pet monkeys and ducks and completely opposite income levels, yet still FRIENDS, completely believable. This is Trump! This is his wheelhouse.

    I really don’t know much about Kamala besides the fact that the she was raised in an upper middle class household and did well for herself. I know she was the AG of California as well as a senator. Does this make her intelligent? Not sure. She’s a lot like Trump in that she knows how to fool the electorate through her strategic use of the race card. I just dug in a little bit and see that she graduated from Howard and then went to UCAL for law. She’s not exactly the same pedigree as Obama, but she has done quite well for herself in a short period of time. I’d give her the benefit of the doubt in that the cards are stacked against you if you are black. But she was hardly raised differently than you and me. So quite honestly, I really can’t judge her intelligence. She did pass the bar. I’ll giver her that.

    But I think the real crux of the question is not so much about Harris as it is about Trump. Trump is not intelligent! We all know the government is corrupt. He doesn’t get many points for figuring that out. He also doesn’t get any bonus points for his on and off honesty. Listen. I know what the attraction is. He is willing to say it like it is. But on the flip-side, he is way to willing to say it like it isn’t. This is where I find him lacking intelligence. Sending out Tweets all hours of the day and night. Stupid. Burning every bridge he crosses. Stupid. Using elementary school playground nicknames for everyone and everything. Stupid. Finally, losing this election to Biden who barely ran a campaign? The ultimate evidence!

    Now I expect little change from this administration. The corruption will continue, the rich will get richer and the right will claim this administration is soc1alist and progressive while in reality it resembles a Bush agenda more than an Obama agenda. But this matters little to the average bread lover. As long as the crumbs keep on coming, we is good.

    A few months ago, while commenting on some Republican meme on Facebook, I wrote that Democratic fools are no different than Trump supporters. They too are easily deceived and think their sh1t don’t stink either. Really, there is no difference between the easily manipulated of either party. Oblivious is Oblivious. They are all part of the same masses.

    So to answer your original question, unless either suddenly became honest with themselves, neither can be considered terribly smart.

  90. grim says:

    Releasing our oldest bourbon yet this weekend. 4 year old (56 months actually) – single barrel, bottled in bond. Jersey grown corn and rye. Pretty god damned incredible stuff.

  91. ExEssex says:

    Bourbon! Niiice.

  92. Libturd says:

    Frist!

  93. Grim says:

    Looks like we will have Vax #2 by next Monday/Tuesday.

    Appears to be far more doses released by Moderna this month than Pfizer.

  94. leftwing says:

    Grim, nice. Last bottle was delicious. May need to find the time while dodging snowflakes to get out your way…

    My only problem is if it’s in the house I get tempted…other than my wine I usually don’t keep any alcohol around, just cultural, way I was brought up, no other reason…

    What I’ve discovered is if it’s around it’s dangerous lol. Bottle King has a sale on scotches, picked up more than a couple Islay…last night hit the Lagavulin, not hard, just two doubles. Think I snorted it rather than drank it, damn it’s good…can’t be doing that more than once a week, and it’s only Monday ha. Like to get a couple of your bottles for (socially distanced) parties.

  95. leftwing says:

    Lib, nice thoughtful response.

    I asked specifically on intelligence because I’m trying to differentiate.

    Lying….comes with the profession, we seem to agree there. Not a differentiating factor.

    Presentation…most politicians will be whomever they need to be to get the votes they need, we seem to agree there. Not a differentiating factor.

    Intelligence…if we can’t differentiate there, what is left?

    Is it all just about the (marginal) policy differentiation between two parties?

  96. D-FENS says:

    Who did the stabbing and who was stabbed?

    Bystander says:
    December 13, 2020 at 4:41 pm
    I guess this throws out Ed’s theory on peaceful, red hat clown supporters who would never cause violence. More to come as cult starts to realize millions in donations yet from Orange adolph will be out in his big @$$ shortly.

    Several people were stabbed and 23 arrested as ‘Stop the Steal’ protesters and counter-protesters clash in Washington, DC

  97. D-FENS says:

    I think those are both mRNA vaccines. I have a friend participating in the trial for the J&J vaccine, which is made from dead or inactive pathogens.

    You plan on waiting for the traditional vaccine or going for one of the ‘new’ mRNA types?

    Grim says:
    December 15, 2020 at 7:01 am
    Looks like we will have Vax #2 by next Monday/Tuesday.

    Appears to be far more doses released by Moderna this month than Pfizer.

  98. grim says:

    I interviewed for both the Pfizer and AZ trials, though never got an appointment to get stuck. Given the initial data on the mRNA vax tech, I suspect it’s going to become the defacto standard. Arguably, it’s safer than old school tech.

  99. Juice Box says:

    No preservatives for the anti vax crowd to complain about, they will however complain about the nanoparticles.

  100. BRT says:

    2) Would you buy a guitar over the internet without playing it given the provenance?

    My two best guitars were bought over the Internet and probably had a few owners. One was bought from someone off ebay Germany in 2001.

  101. Hold my beer says:

    Juice

    Don’t forget about the microchips.

    “Juice Box says:
    December 15, 2020 at 8:28 am
    No preservatives for the anti vax crowd to complain about, they will however complain about the nanoparticles.”

  102. leftwing says:

    Not an anti-vaxer, don’t care about the nano, but I’ll wait.

    New platform (delivery method) combined with timing = no need to rush.

    I’ve modified behavior to avoid the brunt of this for 10 months…I can do three more.

    Might have a different opinion if we were in September.

    BTW, caught Gottlieb’s interview this morning. He was very clear, Midwest transmission is under 1.0. Exponential case growth right now is decelerating. Coasts lagging. Nationally we will peak cases early Jan and hospitalizations in third week of Jan. First I’ve heard that. Need to research more, if accurate (which he usually is) may need to re-evaluate some market positions. I’ve played for accelerating numbers through Q1. May need to become more optimistic. Wish this fcuking GA election was decided.

  103. Juice Box says:

    News, News and more fake news.

    From CNN -“covid vaccines will make little impact on devastating winter ahead”

    There are 42,000 residents in New Jersey nursing homes. We have enough vaccine this week to jab every one one them and it could all be done in less than a week.

    This alone will cut covid deaths significantly. They need to start on the 65 and over crowd asap.

  104. Libturd says:

    How about the chubby over 50 crowd?

  105. Juice Box says:

    Since when did it become customary to introduce yourself as Dr. for non-medical professionals?

    It simply just sounds stuck up and has nothing to do with gender or the pronouns you use.

    Should we call you Dr. First Lady?

  106. Juice Box says:

    Lib – Just chubby? Not a chance, it’s an exclusive club so you only get to pay for it. If there is any vaccine left after the 55 million people in this country that are 65+ get vaccinated you will wait in line with the rest of the mouth breathers at the local urgent care outside in August for 12 hours to get yours. Cash paying customers only too, they won’t be taking insurance.

  107. Libturd says:

    In the past, I might agree with you Juice. But I’ve matured. Is it really any effort to call someone Dr. who earned a doctorate degree? At the end of the day, it’s like allowing gays to marry. Does it impact me in any way whatsoever to see the first lady called a Dr.? Nah. As a matter of fact, I love my enemies. Since I’ve begun to practice this philosophy, it’s absolutely amazing what kind of impact it has had on my life. I now go out of my way to be generous. Heck, if I drive the carpool 4 times to your once, I no longer see it as you not holding up your end of the bargain. I see it as me helping someone else out who (I hope) is simply too busy to balance things out. If you are a selfish jerk trying to get one over on me? Then congrats. You win. No sweat off my back.

    The funny thing is. You had no issue with Trump calling everyone with a playground nickname. Yet the first lady chooses to go by the name she earned and it’s an issue big enough to you to feel you need to share it here.

    She didn’t write the op-ed (WSJ narrative). I might add, the opinion page of the WSJ has pretty much morphed into the Republican narrative page much like CNN has morphed into the anti-Trump network. Shame, as the rest of that paper does a decent job of balanced reporting (except when it comes to knocking the Wall Street types).

  108. Libturd says:

    Also, we all called our college professors doctors when I attended. The purpose of that OPED was to continue to stir the dividing pot.

    I think it’s time for the melting pot to be revered again. Don’t you? It was so much more pleasant when this country honored its multiculturalism rather than using it as a scapegoat.

  109. Dr. Juice Box they/them says:

    Lib – I find it comical that it was all over the airwaves as I was listening to the radio while driving this morning and I suggested a solution “Dr. First Lady” which is just more of my comedy. There should be a new SNL sketch on the Biden White House since Trump is on his way out, pick on the new “first family” the writers have plenty of ammo.

    The WSJ published what is nonsense I will agree, it did not address what I said though, when did it become customary? It’s not customary. So along with adding your pronouns to everything should we now start adding titles? Heck I can go and get myself a DR. OF BUSINESS ADMIN, but it would be looked down upon if I started calling myself Dr. and insisting upon it when applying for jobs with it in the business world.

    Dr. Juice Box they/them (to signify my multiple personalities)

  110. leftwing says:

    “…the opinion page of the WSJ has pretty much morphed into the Republican narrative page much like CNN has morphed into the anti-Trump network…”

    Not even close….when I was (much) younger CNN was openly referred to as the “Clinton News Network” for their bias and promotion. No morphing there, it is a long term trait and intentional.

  111. Juice Box says:

    re: “to stir the dividing pot”

    I noticed Presidential Elect “Ole Covid Joe” did a good job of that himself last night.
    Why wasn’t he wearing a mask? I thought he was going to lead us out of this pandemic by example? 100 days of 24 x 7 masks?

  112. Libturd says:

    Now you are being silly. You only need to wear a mask when you are not distanced from another person.

    I will give the nod to two things. First, CNN is atrocious. They always had a liberal bias, but they are no longer trying to hide it. Second, Biden needs to immediately stop attempting to dispel the Trump lies. By going on the air and explaining WHY Trump’s court cases are baseless, or defending the recounts, or even explaining how the electoral works. He is completely wasting his time as Trump supporters dismiss everything that does not support their narratives. Truth no longer matters. Apparently, flags and protests do more than explanations. Old Covid Joe is just wasting his time. Even you don’t seem to get when and why we should wear masks. Or were you intending to deceive?

  113. BRT says:

    Also, we all called our college professors doctors when I attended. The purpose of that OPED was to continue to stir the dividing pot.

    All my professors had PhDs or MDs. An EdD is a watered down program and should at the very best, be considered a masters. Moreover, the entire academic field of education consists of dubious research with no intellectual integrity and no acknowledgement of statistical standards that exist in other academic fields like Physics, Chemistry, or Medicine.

  114. Juice Box says:

    Lib – he was also coughing allot and into his hands during his tirade. That is a NO NO NO in these COVID RED ALERT days and is bad leadership in my humble opinion.

    He is symptomatic. When was he last tested? They should make him quarantine for 14 days unless he tests negative over the next five days. The rules are the rules.

    You know if it was Trump coughing up like that he would get the treatment from the press.

  115. Libturd says:

    And if you want to get technical since taking things out of context seems to be your MO here. He said 100 days of mask wearing will begin after his inauguration. But let’s not kid ourselves here. He is not speaking to the converted when he is asking for mask wearing. He is largely directing his message at these selfish pr1cks.

    https://bit.ly/3r1JVeK

    Your better than this Juice. Let me know when Biden talks about grabbing puzzies or makes fun of the special olympics. Perhaps when he promises the Pandemic will be over by Christmas or that he is the smartest user of the Internet in the world.

  116. Juice Box says:

    The left ideology is always a paradox… Trans men are “real men” Trans women are “real women” and should be treated as such when it comes to restrooms, dating, school sports teams etc.

    However the paradox is in play now. The left is now hopping mad at James Corden for doing his job and acting, which is only pretending to be something he’s not….

  117. leftwing says:

    LOL, Joe gets vented before Christmas and is still in ICU on Jan 5, day of electoral college count and GA election……Now there’s a mind fcuk.

  118. Phoenix says:

    “Truth no longer matters.” And this will be the final breakdown in American society as the youth of today won’t find any value in honesty. Great job, Boomers of America.

    The “Doctor” thing. It’s all about being subservient and having respect, two more things that are going to head into the red, white and blue dumpster. If there is one thing I have learned more than anything in the past 4 years, it is that the only thing that matters in this panty waste of a country is LEVERAGE. Leverage at work, leverage at home, leverage at the bank, leverage in court.
    And yes, calling someone “doctor” in college is leverage at school. It shows that you are subservient to your teacher. Oh, and without a doubt, you best do it, cause if you don’t their fragile ego will be cracked like an egg and you can be sure of a lower grade.

  119. Libturd says:

    BRT,

    That might be the case and perhaps there is some context there. But bringing it up in relation to the first lady is clearly partisan driven and not contextual. If you try to say otherwise, you are lying to yourself as well.

    There is a smarter and more intelligent place to present such an argument. The first lady is far from the first educator to by that designation. She is among millions if not tens of millions of other educators who choose to do so.

    And I’ll repeat. If this is the best the right can do. Then yeah, I may need to change my opinion of the masses in each party.

  120. Juice Box says:

    Lib – Get with the program. The MSM gears have switched and Trump is now in the rear view mirror and fading fast. To survive the MSM needs to now push new “news” to get the eyeballs to sell their $$$ ads for stuff.

    What will it be? We cannot make a buck off Trump anymore. This incudes FOX NEW and RIGHT WING media BTW.

  121. Phoenix says:

    Do you know what “yes, doctor” means when a Filipino nurse says it?

  122. Dr. Fast Eddie says:

    It was so much more pleasant when this country honored its multiculturalism rather than using it as a scapegoat.

    Your fathers and grandfathers were men… silent, strong, patient and vigilant. What we have now are p.ussies. Blame the cunts on the left who demand rules for themselves, refuse to assimilate, refuse to compromise, refuse to sacrifice and quite frankly, hate this country but will gladly pilfer our resources.

  123. Libturd says:

    Phoenix,

    Exactly. It is THIS that drives me to Costa Rica. There is no need down there to one-up each other. People are genuinely considerate. There is no anti-mask, anti-vaccine protest. There is a pretty large protest occurring right now, where locals have even blocked roads (highly unusual down there). They are against the borrowing of nearly 2 billion dollars from the IMF to pay for Covid costs. This is a worthy protest in my opinion when you see the concessions that are required to take the loan.

  124. Libturd says:

    You mean, refuse to be subservient. I get it.

    https://tinyurl.com/thegoodoldaysweregreat

  125. BRT says:

    That might be the case and perhaps there is some context there. But bringing it up in relation to the first lady is clearly partisan driven and not contextual. If you try to say otherwise, you are lying to yourself as well.

    There is a smarter and more intelligent place to present such an argument. The first lady is far from the first educator to by that designation. She is among millions if not tens of millions of other educators who choose to do so.

    And I’ll repeat. If this is the best the right can do. Then yeah, I may need to change my opinion of the masses in each party.

    For me, it’s not partisan. I’ve had to deal with over a dozen EdD admin’s the past 12 years. Most of them have been my bosses. I refuse to call any of them doctor. And it was clear they didn’t actually do anything for their degrees.

    I don’t care that she has a degree. But they need to stop peddling her out like she’s achieved something of spectacular rigor with her title…because that’s not the case. The first lady is not an elected official. If she wants to have her “causes and messages” that’s fine. Stay out of legislation.

  126. Phoenix says:

    Trump is gone, but his followers with their ideals and feelings are not. As I do not have TDS, I did see some very good things about Trump and his followers although I disagreed with many as well.
    Now we have wheezing Biden, the corporatist Geezer who thinks his defective son is the best thing since sliced bread. It shows his true character. He is not any better, just a slower growing cancer. With a team member Kamala with a Cheshire cat smile like she just ate a canary. So proud of herself, too bad we can’t address her as Dr Kamala- or better yet, Queen Kamala. That would excite her like an overflowing leaf clogged gutter-no shortage of ego there.

    This country is oscillating like a poorly designed bridge. Hope the founding fathers engineered enough stability.

    For giggles, found this funny clip about Biden from 2015. Guess this was known about him then. Plus added a second funny from the clip time stamped.

    https://youtu.be/uH5XAeKdrjM?t=77

    https://youtu.be/uH5XAeKdrjM?t=255

  127. leftwing says:

    “You mean, refuse to be subservient. I get it.”

    The irony is that couple had it better than you do right now, even accounting for technological changes….

    He…9 to 5 workday five days a week, reasonable commute, job security, pension, fully paid healthcare, fully paid house in upscale suburb on one salary

    She…no need for outside employment, defined household management well defined within hours allotted, plus all of the above and below

    Family….kids raised by their actual parents, vacation as a luxury good away from the masses, plus all of the above.

    Whew! Good thing we blew up the traditional nuclear family for the freedom to become two earning wage serfs.

  128. Phoenix says:

    Lib,
    “You mean, refuse to be subservient. I get it.”

    I guess that is one way of looking at it. Not one I would choose. To me it’s more about respecting and admiring someone because of their talents and positive demeanor vs their title and desire to control someone.

  129. BRT says:

    And for what it’s worth, I actually am not opposed to her idea that community college should be free. A lot of my friends who chose not to go to college right away attended community college later in life, ultimately transferred to a university, and now have made great careers for themselves. I think it’s the least we could do for people who come from underprivileged backgrounds. Moreover, community colleges aren’t the patronage pits that our public universities are. The cost would be miniscule relative to all the other nonsense we throw money at.

  130. Phoenix says:

    Left,
    Agreed. Now life is more like the SNL Lexus commercial I posted yesterday.

    Looks like Kathy, the sweet housewife is angrier than ever even when her husband buys her the car she needs to live the life she is accustomed to. Of course, he has suspected already she is banging the town.
    Poor kid gets to find out he is broke, his dad has no job, his mother is unfaithful, and the neighbor he respected growing up is tapping his mother.

    What makes this funny is that there is some truth in it. The children lose, they learn, and believe this is the norm now.

  131. Phoenix says:

    Subservient starts with Karen saying:

    ” Do you know who I am.”

    This is the time to break out the camera and start recording. Well, actually the best time would be right before these words exit her lips.

  132. Phoenix says:

    “But they need to stop peddling her out like she’s achieved something of spectacular rigor with her title…because that’s not the case. The first lady is not an elected official. If she wants to have her “causes and messages” that’s fine. Stay out of legislation.”

    This statement on the Washington Post would make you out to be a misogynist. You do realize that. How dare you not recognize her title, get down on your knees and kiss her feet.

    Of course if it were a man it would be no issue. You do realize this too.

  133. BRT says:

    Maybe if my dissertation wasn’t 700 pages more than hers, I would.

  134. Libturd says:

    BRT,

    Okay, so it’s personal. And quite honestly, I haven’t even read the story since I found it a complete nothingburger (I’ll never let that one go). So did she ASK for people to respect her by using Dr.? Or does she simply include Dr. in her title? I’m guessing it’s the former.

  135. Dr. Fast Eddie says:

    Now life is more like the SNL Lexus commercial I posted yesterday.

    I just watched it. I pictured that type of satire the very first time I saw that commercial. 10 years ago? 20? When did they first start airing “December to remember?” Actually, given that the real commercial is chock full of anti-leftist sentiment, I’m surprised the liberals aren’t protesting. Or, are they and I’m missing it?

  136. Phoenix says:

    Women are only liberal when it’s in their best interests.

  137. BRT says:

    Sure, you could say that. Long story short, every gym teacher turned superintendent in this state is in the same boat. “I’m Dr. so and so”, and we collectively mock all of them for getting a doctorate for essentially writing a term paper. Why should it be any different here?

  138. Bystander says:

    “Your fathers and grandfathers were men… silent, strong, patient and vigilant.”

    Some were also loud, violent, drunk and queer…perhaps all four. That has always been the case. Stop pretending. Any automated process would have been adopted by these fine men too. They just did not have the options. The conveyor belt looked like crazy robotics in late 1800s, particularly to the real mean who worked with bare hands and backs in the 1850s, not like those candy-a$$ conveyor men of the 1890s.

  139. Bystander says:

    “I did see some very good things about Trump and his followers”

    Sure, there were some good ideas like any presidency but ultimately this is not true. Trump could have helped millions of workers if he had followed through on 1 single issue, raising the H1b minimum wage. He could have done it first two years but instead spent on trying to tear down Obamacare while building a foolish wall that US had to pay for. He simply showed that he was a pathetic weak person whose ego could not withstand doing something smart instead of fighting a useless battle just to show he was tough. He was the king of useless rhetoric and puffery. Clowns ate it up.

  140. Dr. Fast Eddie says:

    Some were also loud, violent, drunk and queer

    Oh, the LVDQ identity… the newest entry into the “enlightened” liberal lexicon.

    F.uck unity, f.uck peace, f.uck cooperation and f.uck the old b@stard who claims to be the next president.

  141. Bystander says:

    “f.uck the old b@stard who claims to be the next president.”

    Sounds a little queer, Ed but keep on Truckin back to 1952. I hear gay people were invented in 1968 to bother the conservatives.

  142. Bystander says:

    D-FENS says:
    December 15, 2020 at 7:43 am
    Who did the stabbing and who was stabbed?

    Was a similar question asked to Kyle R.? Probably not. Orange Clown and his merry band of racist gun nuts rushed to his defense fund afterall.

  143. Dr. Fast Eddie says:

    “The flame of democracy was lit in this nation a long time ago. And we now know that nothing — not even a pandemic or an abuse of power — can extinguish that flame,” Biden said from Wilmington in a televised address.

    This piece of shit has the nerve to mention “abuse of power” in a quip while his family takes bribes for influence from the Chinese government. What an insufferable, unbearable and painful bunch. Let’s hope these f.ucks fail at every turn.

  144. leftwing says:

    Re: Abuse of power

    Someone mocked me for my belief in ‘equity’, or basic fairness, for all.

    For good measure they threw in karma, which I never mentioned and never considered.

    While not a proponent of karma, I must say upon reflection….Joe has lost the most dear family members to him over time. Even he knows Hunter is at best warmed up leftovers and his heart and head were always with Beau.

  145. A Home Buyer says:

    Bystander,

    Was a similar question asked to Kyle R.? Probably not. Orange Clown and his merry band of racist gun nuts rushed to his defense fund afterall.

    Yes. Yes it was. Since you cannot seem to let Kyle go, can you at least watch this and let me know if anything changes about your view?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3IaFV_l2-k&feature=share&has_verified=1&bpctr=1608067723

    Its long and the speaker is boring, but its a video timeline of the evening including backstory.

  146. ExEssex says:

    2:57 seriously you f-cking ingrate? !

  147. ExEssex says:

    jEws wIlL nOt rEpLaCe uS .

  148. Bystander says:

    left,

    Your version of equity is called revenge, at least admit it.

    D,

    Not wasting my time if the premise starts on logical fallacy that it is ok for police to escort an armed child vigilante into a violent situation. I don’t care about his scout badges, nor the characters of the people shot because there is no reason for him to be there except to shoot people, the inevitable outcome.

  149. Bystander says:

    Sorry, Home Buyer not D.

  150. Bystander says:

    Let’s play who said it:

    He called five Black people arrested for felony shoplifting “trash” who should be locked in a “warehouse.”

    “Let’s put them in jail. Let’s stop them from truly, at least some of these males, going out and getting 10 other women pregnant and having small children”

    Hey, this is fine, dontchaknow. Not like he represents or protects these people afterall. Wonder why they don’t ‘feel’ it?

  151. chicagofinance says:

    Huh? It’s done all the time…..

    Juice Box says:
    December 15, 2020 at 9:37 am
    Since when did it become customary to introduce yourself as Dr. for non-medical professionals?

  152. Phoenix says:

    Hey,
    The police escorted me out of my house on a false allegation, allowing my ex to loot the entire place with their assistance. They were nice enough to make sure that I was not allowed to protect or even prove what was taken. The police helped the criminal steal.

    F’ em.

  153. Phoenix says:

    And really, it’s not so much the police. It’s the legal system that sets the rules. Things like what happened to me are happening every day to others, and the system encourages this.
    It’s a system that never tries to solve problems or cure them. I think of all the other fathers that go through the same thing every day as if this is perfectly fine to do.

    And like LW mentioned about someone else, my “retribution” will come in the form of Karma- time will handle it, I won’t have to lift a finger. I’ve heard recently that one of those that tortured me is ill. It all works by itself if you just let it.

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