C19 Open Discussion Week 44b

From the Hill:

Five metro areas with highest 2020 move outs located in NY, NJ: study

The five metro areas with the highest move outs in 2020 were located in New York and New Jersey, according to a study from moving company United Van Lines. 

The Nassau-Suffolk area in New York and the Bergen-Passaic area in New Jersey were the top two areas that experienced the greatest outbound migration, each seeing 81 percent outbound migration, according to the company’s 44th Annual National Migration Study

Trenton, N.J., saw 76 percent outbound, while New York City and Newark, N.J., both saw 72 percent outbound migration.

Areas that saw a high level of inbound moves were Wilmington, N.C., and Boise, Idaho, with 79 percent and 75 percent, respectively.

Overall, New Jersey topped the list of outbound locations, experiencing 70 percent in 2020. New York followed with 67 percent. Illinois, Connecticut and California were next on the list, with 67 percent, 63 percent and 59 percent, respectively. 

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554 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 44b

  1. BRT says:

    FRIST!

  2. Yo! says:

    Somehow this United Van Lines “study” gets attention of lazy lousy media.

    The fact is people moving into to NJ are mostly rich, including many international, and these new NJans don’t bother with United Van Lines.

    United Van Lines is a carting service for NJ’s human garbage.

  3. 3b says:

    Grim: I don’t know of course what that large financial firm is. But I can tell you for a fact three of those financial firms are in the process now of determining who needs to come back to the office and in what fashion, and who does not have to come back in any fashion, and simultaneously evaluating how much real estate they will be dumping.

  4. ExEssex says:

    Looks like Georgia is a win for the DEMs.
    The wall-eyed horse-faced Trumper billionaire and the Chivken merchant
    Can gtfo. Blue wave.

  5. Grim says:

    Got real close real quick

  6. ExEssex says:

    Early votes vs Today’s votes

  7. ExEssex says:

    This just in:

    Cleta Mitchell, a lawyer who assisted President Donald Trump on the January 2 call when Trump pressured Georgia officials to “find” him votes, has resigned from her law firm.

    National law firm Foley & Lardner previously said it was “concerned” with Mitchell’s involvement in Trump’s call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and said the firm wasn’t engaged in any legal work challenging the election results. Tuesday, it announced Mitchell was no longer with the firm.

  8. Hold my beer says:

    United does lots of corporate relos

  9. Hold my beer says:

    A friend of mine who works in operations in finance was told right before Christmas he had 1 month to decide to Move from jersey to Texas or be canned.

    Merry Christmas from the banksters

    He knows his career is probably over if he stays in jersey. Good luck finding a job during a pandemic in an industry that is shedding jobs in your geographical area.

  10. ExEssex says:

    Texas is pretty cool. I’d love to save big bucks and make a decent wage in a place where you can live cheaply. Takes you out of the NYC Metro area though.

  11. Juice Box says:

    What the hell, there won”t be any small businesses left to regulate. This bill passed 39-0 in the Senate and 74-0 in the Assembly, and the Governor still vetoed it. He only cares about keeping power. The Legislature and Senate should go and override his veto, this passed unanimously, they only need 2/3 for a veto override.

    https://www.nj.com/politics/2021/01/murphy-vetoes-expanded-outdoor-dining-for-nj-bars-restaurants.html

  12. Juice Box says:

    But New York leads the way in filling the process with fear and red tape. In Washington, D.C., by contrast, the Department of Health is reportedly encouraging health care providers to administer surplus vaccines nearing expiration to any willing recipient. David MacMillan documented such an experience on TikTok after a pharmacist approached him randomly in a D.C. Giant supermarket with an offer to get the Moderna vaccine.

    A similar approach is popular in Israel, which has vaccinated 12 percent of its population with the first dose—the U.S. is at 1 percent—and has moved so rapidly that it is running out of vaccines. They, too, allow the younger population to benefit from extra vaccines. More than 100,000 Israelis between the ages of 20 and 40 have been inoculated.

    In MacMillan’s case, he lucked out when two people didn’t show up for their scheduled appointments—something that is bound to happen and is out of health care workers’ control. The pharmacist “turned to us and was like, ‘Hey, I’ve got two doses of the vaccine and I’m going to have to throw them away if I don’t give them to somebody,” MacMillan said on TikTok. “‘We close in 10 minutes. Do you want the Moderna vaccine?'” In D.C., that’s one more person who’s been vaccinated against COVID-19 and one tiny step closer to herd immunity.

    Had that happened in New York, the pharmacist might be out of a job.

    https://reason.com/2021/01/04/andrew-cuomo-vaccine-distribution-rules-100000-fine-threat-to-public-health/

  13. grim says:

    California knows how to do it as well.

    https://abc7news.com/moderna-vaccine-covid-19-ukiah-valley-medical-center-broken-freezer/9389873/

    Just goes to show you, that if you need to pick up the pace, you can. 830 doses administered in 2 hours.

  14. grim says:

    If megabank in London and NYC want to pay us a million dollars to make sure these folks take their tests correctly every morning, I’m game.

  15. grim says:

    The Devil went down to Georgia
    He was lookin’ for a soul to steal
    He was in a bind ’cause he was way behind
    And he was willin’ to make a deal
    When he came across this young man
    Sawin’ on a fiddle and playin’ it hot
    And the Devil jumped upon a hickory stump
    And said, “Boy, let me tell you what”

  16. grim says:

    Rumor is that Murphy has begun vaccinations in Prisons.

    CDC recommendations for prisons and prisoners is Phase 2, so he’s decided to shift away from the recommended phasing pretty substantially. We’re not even talking 1a/1b/1c jumps, we’re all the way to 2.

  17. grim says:

    Stu, you are approved under Phase 1b as you support print media.

  18. Chicago says:

    Juice: your friend from HK. How about Holmdel? Very Asian friendly. Extremely strong school district. Historic pedigree.

  19. Libturd says:

    I’ll look. Thanks Grim.

  20. Juice Box says:

    Chicago – Holmdel was first on my list. They asked about Princeton as well. I don’t know much about Princeton schools.

  21. Chicago says:

    Princeton is as advertised. You said Chinese is a +. Holmdel is suburban/rural. It is one of the only Chinese forward places in NJ that is not surburban/urban or urban.

    Anything proximate to route 1 is going to be Asian forward because of all the life sciences on that corridor. I will say that Chinese are more of a plurality in Holmdel whereas the Edison influence kind of dominates the route 1 corridor.

    West Windsor works too.

  22. Libturd says:

    “On the topic of why are we running empty trains…I ask why are we running empty planes? That’s private sector. ”

    First, planes are not running empty. They are cancelled if they are running near empty. Second, the airlines are subsidized to the tune of 25 billion dollars. I’m not sure we can call them private sector anymore.

    BTW, anyone who accepted a Covid survival check is now a red card carrying member of the Democratic Soc1aliasts. Don’t forget that.

  23. Juice Box says:

    Jail vaccinations are not a rumor it was in the news link I posted yesterday, they started a week ago in the jails.

    Again here we have the Governors doing whatever they want. There is no science here being used to determine anything about who will get really sick and die. They should distribute the Moderna vaccine to the primary care Docs and smaller pharmacies asap and get the Seniors vaccinated already. The Pfizer one needs ultra cold storage so only Hospitals and county facilities who might have the refrigerators. All Medical Professional should be lining up there to get the jab at Hospitals, done in the parking lots drive by “shots”.

    No more of this nonsense where you need to go into the Hospital, wash you hands, and wait socially distant until they call your name to fill out paperwork, get a name badge printed and then go to another floor to again wait socially distant for your name to be called for a shot.

    The only way we could make this more inefficient is to have a NJ dot gov registration site that should have been running months ago and now keeps crashing, because some nerd did not account for proper input validation or did not provision enough resources to keep the site up under a load.

  24. Libturd says:

    Chi is spot on. I took a drive up route 1 in December. The section between the Quaker Bridge Mall and North Brunswick is beginning to look a lot like the section between Edison and the Woodbridge Mall in that you need to know Mandarin to read the signs to many businesses. Holmdel is probably the right place for wealthier Chinese. My sister lives in West Windsor and my BIL is on the school board there. Very strong schools, but way more nouveau riche. Plus, too much traffic and Princeton envy.

  25. Juice Box says:

    re: Airline bailout. The money goes to bring back 15,000 furloughed workers. What they will be doing with low flight demand an all is anyone’s guess. I guess farting holes in seats somewhere.

    Who wants to bet our congress critters were POed that there were not enough flights from DC to their home states every weekend? I bet more than a few were pissed they had to connect to distant hubs and take two or perhaps three connections to get home. Anyone wanna bet the airlines changed all the schedules to DC airports?

  26. leftwing says:

    “Stu, you are approved under Phase 1b as you support print media.”

    Buddy of mine getting his this week. Works in sales in an absolutely non-critical area of a major corporate that has a healthcare division…hasn’t seen a client over most of 2020.

    Anyway, the healthcare corporate was given priority…he was told where to schedule and given a generic letter on the corporate letterhead. Show up with letter and a corporate ID at scheduled time. Given at an urgent care clinic of one of the larger systems in state.

  27. Juice Box says:

    Chuck Schumer is going to be the Senate Majority Leader now? Oh Boy more camera time for him.

  28. Juice Box says:

    My cousin’s wife is a school nurse and got vaccinated last week. He dear old mom will have to wait months and months….

  29. BRT says:

    My sister lives in West Windsor and my BIL is on the school board there. Very strong schools, but way more nouveau riche. Plus, too much traffic and Princeton envy

    I lived in West Windsor for 2 years. When we were looking for homes there, they were all beat to crap and you would pay a $150k premium just for the school district. The reality is, it’s not so much the teachers as it is the strong study body. But that being said, just being surrounded by talent elevates every student’s performance. The homes are pretty much all below average there. No well maintained. The traffic is awful because they never developed the roads with any planning there. It’s just nonstop choke points.

    Every town in the county outside of Hamilton and Trenton suffers from Princeton envy. I don’t quite understand it. The people in Princeton are the snobbiest group of people I’ve ever encountered in my life. Moreover, every home in downtown Princeton is also completely falling apart. Aside from the mansions off the beaten path, the town is pretty crappy.

    The downtown isn’t bad but the food options are way overrated. There are a few gems but overall, I’m not impressed.

  30. Libturd says:

    Governor Phillip Murphy has just announced a new effort to speed up the vaccine distribution after current protocols have been criticized for being slowed by too much red tape. Based on the overwhelming success of his in-person driver’s license renewal process during the pandemic, Murphy expects his much-maligned inoculation times to be cut in half. The simplified registration with the office of the Distribution of the Moderna Vaccine (DMV2) requires presentation of your health insurance coverage followed by any receipt of contribution to the New Direction 501(c)(4). The latter is needed to determine your scheduling priority. For more information, see http://www.NewDirectionNJ.com

  31. No One says:

    Jail vaccination priority are probably a race/class justice thing for these pols.

    I have to say, Trump’s presidency ultimately turned out the way I expected. A one-term embarrassment giving Dems the opportunity to control the presidency, Senate, and House.
    The only major law the Repubs passed in their first two years was a perceived “tax cut for the rich” that actually hiked my effective taxes.
    But at least there was no Hillary presidency. If she had been president I think a better non-Trumpian Republican candidate might have run and won against her in 2020.

  32. Juice Box says:

    Those empty trains are going to get very expensive. The NY MTA blew $3 Billion in emergency lending from the FED in only a few months to prevent layoffs. They are leveraged to the hilt and have an additional $6 Billion dollar deficit this year to keep the empty trains running.

    Now that Biden, Pelosi and Schumer are in charge all the government workers must be breathing a sigh of relief as there was no austerity for them, their bailouts are baked into the cake.

  33. leftwing says:

    My thoughts regarding last night…..I was up into the early AM hours.

    Honestly, I am filled with pride. As I’ve said here before, I’m actually a big softie on patriotic matters. The system worked. It was a long haul and it wasn’t easy. In the end everyone came together. I felt a tug of emotion seeing the American flag and the camaraderie.

    So good to see our boys take the gold.

    On the other matter, burn, baby burn. Hoping for a combination of bin laden, the global financial crash, the hostage crisis, and locusts to descend on this Administration and Congress for 24 months of darkness for an absolute, Carter-to-the-exponential-factor, massive fail.

  34. BRT says:

    Chicago – Holmdel was first on my list. They asked about Princeton as well. I don’t know much about Princeton schools.

    I interviewed there 7 years ago. The only thing I can say is that I didn’t take the job because I felt I would have been crucified by the parents. I would have taught alongside 2 other physics teachers and when I looked at their curriculum, it was a complete joke (almost insulting). Had I come in and taught properly, I would have been labeled the “hard teacher” and fired after my first year.

    That’s only one subject area, but if teachers are allowed to get away with that, in one area, I wouldn’t be surprised if it persists elsewhere.

  35. BRT says:

    Now that Biden, Pelosi and Schumer are in charge all the government workers must be breathing a sigh of relief as there was no austerity for them, their bailouts are baked into the cake.

    I guess I’m getting my pension after all.

  36. Phoenix says:

    Well, one thing is for sure, you won’t bleed from the site of the vaccine. Stuff is like Fix-a-Flat or some sort of tire sealer.

  37. D-FENS says:

    How long before Democrats grant statehood to Puerto Rico and Washington DC? That would likely result in 4 more senate seats for them and 10 more electoral college votes. We can likely kiss the Filibuster goodbye and the 60 vote threshold.

    Plenty of Democrats are on record promising to pack the Supreme Court too. No way the GOP can ever win again from here. GOP squishes have zero balls…Democrats will change all the rules ensuring future wins.

    It will be a one party system from here on out.

  38. ExEssex says:

    Blue blue blue

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    On the other matter, burn, baby burn. Hoping for a combination of bin laden, the global financial crash, the hostage crisis, and locusts to descend on this Administration and Congress for 24 months of darkness for an absolute, Carter-to-the-exponential-factor, massive fail.

    That, and bread lines, dumpster diving and packs of human-like wolves akin to a scene out of the Road Warrior, commandeering trucks for fuel and goods. And let’s hope the senile, old f.uck is just conscious enough to take endless body punches.

  40. Juice Box says:

    Something to ponder how are they going to pay for all their programs? We are talking trillions here. So there won’t be austerity or cuts to government programs, maybe less Submarines and Jet Fighters but with the new rising sun to the east they cannot cut trillions.

    The middle class is in a recession/depression already do to covid, you cannot get much from them. The lower class cannot be taxed as we all know at the federal level they pay nothing. So what is left? The rich and upper class.

    I could see a proposal for a wealth tax, and a tax on Wall St. The “Bernie Sanders tax” it would be his last hurrah, he had proposed previously to raise $2 trillion – on trading. Bernie had put out a bill that would tax tax trading of stocks, bonds and derivatives at rates up to .05% and it would raise trillions theoretically. There is precedence for it, and where else can you get trillions these days but from Wall St?

  41. Libturd says:

    My fact-checker (Gator) just told me my sister lives in the cheaper (East) Windsor. Sorry. Same story.

  42. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    Time to get your house all decked out like the one in the Purge.

  43. Libturd says:

    What time does Pence (much like the newer SCOTUS appointees) disappoint Trump and the sore loser rally today?

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lib,

    I don’t know for sure, but I assume if you stop using planes and trains for months, it has a negative impact on their engines. It’s like letting a car sit for 6 months without starting it, just killing it.

    Like I said yesterday, it’s not easy to get those airlines and trains running if you shut most of it down. Laid off workers go look for other jobs. It just takes a long time to get it going again. So better to keep it running.

    At the end of the day, it is not in our interest to have more layoffs. You might not realize it, but those layoffs would hurt your pocket, aka your ability to make money as it further damages the economy and brings unnecessary stress to the economy.

    That’s why I support the fed. Letting the economic gears grind to a halt is outright dangerous. It increases the odds of a major revolution, which can result in sending us back centuries, as cartels become the rulers of society. Don’t think for a second, it can’t happen.

  45. D-FENS says:

    I’m curious to see what Biden does when the migrant caravans start up again. Bulldoze the wall or protect the border? Only way to protect the border is with force and the optics of that are terrible. Maybe protecting the border is the route he goes and it just never gets reported.

    I’d think it would be a lose/lose situation for any president.

  46. 3b says:

    Juice: I see the new Penn Station just opened up on New Years Day.1.6 bullion dollars. No access for NJ Transit riders. Place must be a ghost town.

  47. Juice Box says:

    1PM is when the Joint Session to count the votes is supposed to start.

  48. ExEssex says:

    9:46 I’m sorry did you say something?
    I can’t hear you over all of the losing.

  49. BRT says:

    Sitting engines are fine as long as you drain off the fluids.

  50. Libturd says:

    It all sounds good until the dollar is no longer the petro dollar. Right now, as percentage of GDP, our debt is bad, but not terrible. Terrible could spell a real disaster for us.

  51. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – So they have to keep the train and aircraft engines running so they don’t break down?

    Get back to your classroom already, you have lost you mind…

  52. Phoenix says:

    “Don’t think for a second, it can’t happen.”

    Epicenter Wayne N.J. Where the blending begins.

  53. D-FENS says:

    The rally in DC is so dumb. Think about how things would have turned out if all those people put their energy into a get out the vote effort all over Georgia.

    Libturd says:
    January 6, 2021 at 9:54 am
    What time does Pence (much like the newer SCOTUS appointees) disappoint Trump and the sore loser rally today?

  54. 3b says:

    Juice:Biden won’t disappoint his corporate masters.

  55. Libturd says:

    Jet engines are mechanically simple actually. Rust is the only danger, hence they store planes in the desert when not needed.

    https://www.airplaneboneyards.com/mojave-desert-california-airplane-boneyard.htm

  56. Libturd says:

    The old argument always presented by public sector workers during economic slowdowns. If you lay me off, it will cost you more in the long run.

    What complete bullsh1t.

  57. 3b says:

    Massive apartment complex is rapidly being built on the site of the old Bergen Co DPW, between Hackensack and River Edge, over 600 units,and the traffic will dump out onto to Kinderkamack Rd, which is already a mess.

    5 more in various stages of approval/ construction in Paramus with a 6th one already rented, and a massive one being built in Park Ridge on Kinderkamack Rd. Bergen Co ain’t suburbia anymore!

  58. Phoenix says:

    “Sitting engines are fine as long as you drain off the fluids.”

    Ahh, not so much.

    And if you are so worried about the trains, just find the lowest section of track down in the Meadowlands and leave them there during a storm. It’s been done before and has a proven track record of getting them replaced.

  59. Juice Box says:

    petro dollar? Have you not read Sleepy Joe’s plan? Build Better Back Baby by 2050!

    We are going to be running this country on green fuel and green farts in no time at all. Nothing like some sunshine and ingenuity.

    It’s all in the plan. Sunshine & ingenuity it’s in there. Sleepy Joe plans to have it in the budgets and law by the end of his first term, you will see all those executive orders flying off his desk from day 1 telling cows to stop farting to reduce methane and telling the farmers to produce more biofuels, and telling those nasty polluters their days of producing electricity are over.

    https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/

  60. leftwing says:

    “How long before Democrats grant statehood to Puerto Rico and Washington DC? That would likely result in 4 more senate seats for them and 10 more electoral college votes. We can likely kiss the Filibuster goodbye and the 60 vote threshold. Plenty of Democrats are on record promising to pack the Supreme Court too.”

    Don’t believe this will happen…..Red will hang together (not Collins, Murkowski, etc peeling off here) and more than a couple moderate Dem Senators would not go along.

    “Something to ponder how are they going to pay for all their programs? We are talking trillions here.”

    Spending, another matter. Everyone will be diving into the feeding trough snout first and not nearly enough will care about the ramifications…why should they, they were all Medicare eligible last decade….

    Fun fact…the three leaders (Pres, Senate, House) are a combined 228 years old…..

    Need term limits in Congress. This is not representative government.

  61. Fast Eddie says:

    Liberals use symbols and emotions as tools of cognition. It’s easier to survive in this manner than it is to think. To think and produce something tangible is too difficult so their so-called leaders use feelings as concepts in order to garner votes and gain control. Reality is replaced by revelation; non-sensory sentiments are considered knowledge. Liberals tailor concepts as knowledge and stray away from rational perception. If they did and the common masses discovered they’re being duped, they would lose their base and their hold on power.

  62. ExEssex says:

    Yeah symbols like a punch drunk imbecile hugging the American flag?

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Y8eJYiz8PJqubY8p8

    Face it, you backed a loser and he managed to drag your whole party down.
    I have a symbol for you.

  63. Libturd says:

    Finally,

    F’ed landlords getting some much needed press.

    https://bit.ly/38jxYtF

  64. Juice Box says:

    RUTROH – Somebody threated a 9/11 style attack to the Capitol today over an air traffic control frequency in NY.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-threat-air-traffic-control-general-qassem-soleimani-revenge/

  65. leftwing says:

    “Face it, you backed a loser and he managed to drag your whole party down.”

    Wouldn’t agree here. I mean, yeah, DJT was a loser even before coming in but he did move the party away from its artherosclerotic core….

    Big question is will the Party now revert back to that group (the Romney, McCain, Dole, Bush wing) or continue down a more modern path.

    Remember, before the 2016 primaries Cruz was considered edgy. Goalposts have moved, and Red Team has at least realized that.

    Blue Team? The opposite. They tightened the screws and battened down the hatches.

    Each party needs to figure out how to capture/hold/engage Millennials and GenZ, who their new leaders are going (to be allowed) to be, and how they are going to deal with/integrate the outlier populist wing of their respective parties.

  66. Libturd says:

    Look at that ten year go.

    How anyone can think the blue team will hurt the markets is beyond me. Heck, the establishment dems are the easiest to purchase favor from ever. Even moreso than the red team. This doesn’t change the eventual collapse we’ll experience, but certainly, the dinosaurs in control won’t be the trigger.

  67. Juice Box says:

    Lib – That is much worse than just non-payment of rent do to unemployment. I counted five new TV boxes in that video. Seems like that landlord has a bunch of crazy druggies living their and unfortunately their kids living there. I gather social services was called, but they are probably overwhelmed.

  68. 3b says:

    Lib: Amazing how they trashed the house in less than a year. No excuse for living like that.

  69. Libturd says:

    The house was trashed because of these executive orders. An eviction moratorium is a horrible thing. It was only made worse by making it permissible for tenants to use their security to pay rent. Now tenants have less than no skin in the game. Why would they not wreck the place besides the fact they have to live in their own squalor?

  70. 3b says:

    Lib: That is my point, why would anyone want to live in squalor if they don’t have to?

  71. ExEssex says:

    10:36 *Cruz was considered an imbecile. Nothing has changed.

  72. BRT says:

    When I was renting in New Brunswick 15 years ago, I was the only tenant that fixed everything on my own. Landlord lived 2 blocks away. I just let him know and he reimbursed me for the parts. At some point, after 3 years, a drug dealer stripper moved in above me. I had all these shady people showing up at all hours of the day. She was arrested by the police for dealing. Told the landlord was going to move out because of it. He evicted her immediately and lowered my rent $200. On her way out, she stole everything she could, even food from the restaurant that we shared a backyard with.

    I went up with him to help him clean up the place. It was trashed. There were ripped up burnt dollar bills all over the place. Really crazy crap. The only thing that was there was a broken digital safe. We figured it had nothing in it so we chucked it out on the curb. These two mexicans came by that night and carried it off. 2 days later, girl shows up all high looking for it. She was so drugged out, she forgot she had left it behind. I had to call the cops to keep her from entering. The neighbor knew one of her coworkers and said apparently, there was $7k in cash in the safe.

    She’s now at the philosophy department at UC Santa Barbara. Nice to know the UC system doesn’t care about hiring convicted criminals.

  73. Juice Box says:

    Lib – it’s to prevent the spread of covid-19, aren’t you for that? We all have to take our lumps. Shut down small businesses, cancel weddings and travel, never work in an office again etc. So why should the landlords deserve special protection?

    From the eviction moratorium which was codified into law at the Federal level.

    “Evicted renters must move, which leads to multiple outcomes that increase the risk of COVID-19 spread. Specifically, many evicted renters move into close quarters in shared housing or other congregate settings. According to the Census Bureau American Housing Survey, 32% of renters reported that they would move in with friends or family members upon eviction, which would introduce new household members and potentially increase household crowding.[11] Studies show that COVID-19 transmission occurs readily within households; household contacts are estimated to be 6 times more likely to become infected by an index case of COVID-19 than other close contacts”

  74. ExEssex says:

    10:36 or door number 3 become more and more out of step and slip into irrelevancy.

  75. leftwing says:

    “Lib: That is my point, why would anyone want to live in squalor if they don’t have to?”

    Because they’re uneducated pigs.

    Wonder who she voted for….

  76. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Republicans are dead. This is what happens when a bunch of poor leave blue states for the cheaper housing in the south. A southern state turns blue… It’s over, only going to get worse.

  77. ExEssex says:

    11:11 cool story and always with a preachy angle.
    Demonstrating your commitment to conservative values.

  78. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are better than this. You can’t really believe this, can you? If this is not the case, then why have stimulus at all? You just don’t get it.

    Let it all burn to the ground, let govts lose control of the populace, and then tell me how happy you are. Just stop…

    Libturd says:
    January 6, 2021 at 10:03 am
    The old argument always presented by public sector workers during economic slowdowns. If you lay me off, it will cost you more in the long run.

    What complete bullsh1t.

  79. Juice Box says:

    BRT – did you get a free dance from her during your days as neighbors? And don’t say it was not offered..

  80. ExEssex says:

    11:13 I doubt they are “poor”. If they were owners out west or east they cashed out.
    If they are young they are mobile and that takes money. The poor stay put.

  81. Bystander says:

    Fixed that left..choose a sane candidate next time. Simply saying ‘Trump is an idiot’ does not begin to state the damage his presidency has done to this country. He is a one term failure and a global embarrassment. Carter is Lincoln next this fascist moron who is burning place down before he leaves. I am sure you are cheering him on as a ‘real patriot’ Keep thinking that Trump changed it all for conservative base. He has splintered it into factions of crazy Q crowd, not emboldened it. Last night was a repudiation of him entirely and now Rs will destroy him. There is nothing left to support. Those low IQ cult will continue to be entertained by him, probably cause violence over next few weeks but adults are back in charge, for the better. McConnell and Graham were absolute scum during his presidency. Goodbye. Yes, the problems will be there and we are at tipping point but nothing was changing that since gaint boulder was been moving for years. We will continue to print, bailout the system and then war at some point when countries push back on exported inflation. There will be world instability. Biden is not changing that but getting off Twitter and wasting time on celebrity feuds / fueling racism is essential fresh start for this country.

    “Trump-to-the-exponential-factor, massive fail.”

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thank the cheap states for taking the poor out of the high cost blue states like nj. One less poor person to support in Jersey. Let’s see how long the local are happy with all these people moving to their state…say bye to your state as you knew it.

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  84. ExEssex says:

    Cccrrrracccck!

    Bystander hits it out of the park.

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I stated “I don’t know for sure” and assumed it has a negative effect if you don’t use it. I guess I was wrong.

    Cars go to shi! if you let them sit. All the seals dry out from not getting oil. The engine is fk’ed in the long run.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 6, 2021 at 9:55 am
    Lib,

    I don’t know for sure, but I assume if you stop using planes and trains for months, it has a negative impact on their engines. It’s like letting a car sit for 6 months without starting it, just killing it.

  86. ExEssex says:

    11:17 I hope you understand that on a Teachers salary you are considered lower middle class. One rung up from poor. Your smugness due to a high earning wife is a facade masking your own insecurities.

  87. Libturd says:

    “Wonder who she voted for….”

    Trust me. She didn’t vote.

  88. JCer says:

    Were all F’d, Trump losing the presidency was no big deal but democrat majority in Clowngress, Senate and Executive branch means they are effectively unchecked. In order to pay for the grandiose plans they will need to tax the “productive” class, the upper middle class, there aren’t enough rich to tax……and they sure as h*ll are not going after the 90% who we refer to as voters. Expect dual income families to pick up the tab again, households earning 200k and up will be taxed severely to cover the tab and the death tax coming back but probably at the historical levels. I expect favored capitol gains status will end for folks earning over a couple hundred thousand. All kinds of bad legislation will be passed while they hold control.

    In typical fashion all of the things the Dems could do to advance things their constituency cares about will be left to the judical branch. The legislation passed will be purely of the graft kind advanced by lobbyists and their interests.

  89. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Dude, I make as much money from my rental as I did when I started teaching. That’s not including other investment income. That’s only one. It’s not about your job, it’s about what you do with your money. I was paying 16,000 in taxes on my first single home purchase. At 31, I already had more then almost every teacher I work with who made more money than me.

    I’m middle class, but I’m not lower middle class by a mile. Lower middle class do not own income producing investments.

    ExEssex says:
    January 6, 2021 at 11:21 am
    11:17 I hope you understand that on a Teachers salary you are considered lower middle class. One rung up from poor. Your smugness due to a high earning wife is a facade masking your own insecurities.

  90. Libturd says:

    “The legislation passed will be purely of the graft kind advanced by lobbyists and their interests.”

    Exactly. I am scared. But what’s another trillion in gifts here or there?

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Jcer,

    Yup, I’m fuc!ed. I don’t mind paying taxes, but I’m paying enough as is. 31,000 on property taxes alone. Go pick on someone else.

  92. JCer says:

    Essex, pumps family income is probably high enough that he will be hit by democrat’s proposed tax policies.

    Pumps we don’t lose the poor, we lose the middle class. The poor are here for the benefits, if NJ didn’t have the poor(Newark, Trenton, Camden, East Orange/Orange, half of Jersey City and Paterson) this state would have much better financial footing.

  93. Bystander says:

    Calling Trump ‘an idiot’ is like saying Dahmer was ‘just hungry, I guess’

  94. 3b says:

    Bystander: I agree, except for your comment that the adults are back in charge. Not even close. This country has tremendous problems, and the likes of Nancy Pelosi are spending their time getting rid of offensive words like parent, Mother, Father, sibling. As Lib would say we are truly fu@ked.

  95. BRT says:

    Cars go to shi! if you let them sit. All the seals dry out from not getting oil. The engine is fk’ed in the long run.

    Let them go bankrupt and force them to sell the assets. But you are talking decay over
    years…not months. And, these things can be fixed.

    For what it’s worth, my father has a 1972 BMW motorcycle that he got when he went to Germany in the 70s. It sat idle since 1984. My brother got it started last year. Still works.

  96. Juice Box says:

    220k registered yesterday for the vaccine on the nj dot gov website.

    As I thought input validation errors and capacity issue with the website.

    “More than 220,000 people signed up on the state’s new coronavirus registration portal by late Tuesday afternoon, according to the Department of Health.

    The high volume of people who tried to register on the New Jersey Vaccine Scheduling System (NJVSS), caused slowdowns, and some users experienced technical issues.

    Users reported several different problems Tuesday, including error messages, changes to information they inputted about medical conditions and birth dates that were not accepted by the system.

    “We understand a small number of people have had trouble entering a birth date and we are working to address that issue,” she said.

    Leusner said the department’s technical team is looking at the other problems.”

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/01/nj-covid-vaccine-more-than-220k-people-signed-up-on-first-day-to-register-for-vaccine.html

  97. Bystander says:

    Dufus..wakeup, the wealthy class was given everything by the Treasury and Fed for a dozen years now. It was to the detriment of poor, elderly and lower classes who don’t have stocks and housing. Meanwhile, the Fed spending has gone haywire to support the economy for upper class. It has to be paid. You may hate it but 300k plus is ridiculous income. We have to pay our bills. Nothing is free. Eat it. Tax cuts are a ridiculous farce when overall spending is not reduced as well. Guess what, US (or NJ etc) will never reduce spending ever! That is pain and there is no need for pain..until there is.

  98. Bystander says:

    3b,

    Yep. The sooner Pelosi and Schumer are shown the door, the better. A dummy like Blumpy thinks stuff like student loan debt is fine and not an issue that needs reform. Oh but that trillion in outstanding landlord rent does not dealt with..fool. It looks like old f*cks like Biden/Pelosi/Schumer won’t do a damn thing either or some window dressing. The AOCs will rise up. You may hate their platform but make no mistake, someone has to change it for younger generation, particularly debt.

  99. ExEssex says:

    11:41 *was high enough
    Been there done that. Have the receipts.
    Big f’in deal middle class in NJ is a moving target.

  100. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s interesting that the WNBA is cheering the election of a wife beater over a woman. I guess it means we’ll look the other way as long as we get what we want.

  101. ExEssex says:

    They didn’t like the wall-eyed billionaire grifter.

  102. libturd says:

    220k out of nearly 10000K. The numbers will halve each day. It may take longer to get everyone to sign up than to inoculate them.

  103. Fast Eddie says:

    You may hate their platform but make no mistake, someone has to change it for younger generation, particularly debt.

    So, for those of us who paid for the kids college, we get a refund, right?

  104. Libturd says:

    Hong Kong arrests 53 for plot to ‘overthrow’ government in latest crackdown on dissent

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-security/hong-kong-arrests-53-for-trying-to-overthrow-govt-with-unofficial-vote-id

  105. Bystander says:

    Hold my beer,

    From your post earlier, I would never move for any company unless step up. This sh&t has been happening for years – Raleigh, Nashville, SLC, India. Not sure what area of ops but the big mistake would be to take NYC salary and buy a big expensive home down there. Better off choosing a decent home and building lifestyle around current area salaries. I have worked in numerous compliance tech areas and there seems to be lack of fear within regulatory space for all of Dumpy’s reign. It seemed like headline regulation was biggest risk so AML and Financial Crime got most of money. There are so many points of fail within daily banking ops like employees not FINRA registered, not trained, not certified to do their job. Employees who move location (cross-border) or fail line management oversight. In 2.5 years, I have seen dozens of tech filing errors and feed issues with FINRA, SEC, DTCC and yet no fines. Changes to formats and data that went unnoticed bc ops roles cut back. No expertise in L&C anymore and no one keeping guard closely on regulatory changes. The regulators want to work with you rather than ask why challenges persist. Internal audit vaguely cares but generally no real money put into issues. Some might say ok but this allows banking institutions to cut further back as no fines are forthcoming. I can only think of one in 2.5 years and suddenly mgt noticed when millions were at risk. Without this fear, roles will continue to shift out of all areas of ops. Automation is a part but I feel this is biggest issue. Some disagree but it has been KLO attitude for 5 – 6 years now. NYC banking can only grow whether there is fear of missed rev opportunities or violation money at risk otherwise it is malaise and bottom line focus. It has been years now. If you were LoanIQ SME during pandemic then probably golden. I got three – four contacts a day but not SME but nada elsewhere.

  106. leftwing says:

    ” The neighbor knew one of her coworkers and said apparently, there was $7k in cash in the safe.”

    LOL, took over a place that had a safe in there from a tenant two leases ago. They were Russian. Existing tenant who we were outing was too cheap to bust it open. Cheapest quote we got was $600 to break it. Partner and I declined, but after the third call found one of the locksmiths who would come by after hours for a 50/50 split. Turned out to be worthless papers but fun time, had the adrenaline pumping.

    “10:36 or door number 3 become more and more out of step and slip into irrelevancy.”

    Yeah, you got me with no reply. Have none for anyone who believes clinging to the Romney-McCain-Bush-Dole/Clinton-Schumer-Feinstein-Pelosi wings of each Party will be the relevant ones.

  107. 3b says:

    Lib: Don’t worry, I am sure Joe will give the Chinese government a good talking to on those arrests. And on the destruction of the ethnic Uighurs. But the Democrats scream Trump/ Putin!!

  108. leftwing says:

    At least you stay true to form….

    “Fixed that left..choose a sane candidate next time. Simply saying ‘Trump is an idiot’ does not begin to state the damage his presidency has done to this country…”

    Drama Queen. Really? Specifically with quantification, delineate the damage.

    “I am sure you are cheering him on as a ‘real patriot’…”

    Reading comprehension. Stated countless times here, never supported him, never will.

    Try making a change from form. It doesn’t hurt, and usually is beneficial.

  109. Juice Box says:

    Joint session was 10 minutes, they got thru Alabama and Alaska no-objections. Then Arizona where the objections came. They have adjourned to their chambers to debate and vote for up two two hours.

  110. leftwing says:

    “Cccrrrracccck! Bystander hits it out of the park.”

    And here comes the peanut gallery right on cue to support…

    Read the cards any way you want. It doesn’t matter to me…actually I take that back it does. The more obtuse you continue to be the more I benefit…Let’s look at those pesky things that so perplex the Left, facts…

    The final election results? The opposition:

    Lost 10 seats in the lowest chamber, the one closest to the pulse of the population.

    Took net 1 seat in the upper chamber from the controlling party.

    Won the popular vote for Presidency with 51%.

    The above was accomplished with a boorish carnival barker in the Presidency who had the lowest approval ratings. Ever. And with the benefit of a global pandemic, a once-in-a-century event that shut down the world economy overnight and killed 1.9 million people, occurring during the election.

    Factually, you won.

    You want to score that a strong win, celebrate it, and double down? Truthfully, be my guest. I welcome it.

    Just let me know which once-in-a-century event you are betting on next time.

  111. leftwing says:

    “Trust me. She didn’t vote.”

    I know she didn’t vote. I should have been more clear…I wonder who was selected on the ballot submitted in her name….

    :)

  112. Juice Box says:

    Debate in House is on over Arizona. Pelosi is giving them 5 minutes each.

    Steve Scalise is up. Same Rep who James Hodgkinson, a left-wing terrorist tried to execute on the baseball field three years ago.

    Article II challenges…Bla Bla Bla..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKy84YmL-sU

  113. No One says:

    Storing grounded airplanes isn’t particularly difficult or expensive. It’s been done for decades. And it’s vastly cheaper than flying empty planes.

    Govt money to airlines was a bailout, partly to prevent one more source of surging unemployment. Probably to maintain some baseline transport infrastructure. However, airlines can still fly in bankruptcy, so this is more a bailout for airline investors and lenders.
    I know of some airlines that survived by having a big cash pile, grounding their planes, and laying off employees, and waiting it out with low costs.

  114. Bystander says:

    Left,

    That is biggest kettle black post I have ever seen on this blog. Calling for death and destruction of our country..while calling me a drama queen for pointing out countless counter-democracy speeches and actions by the Clown..wink…you never supported. Why bother trying to introduce logic at all here. Remain on your side and pretend.

  115. D-FENS says:

    I think it’s officially a riot now in Washington DC

  116. Bystander says:

    Ed,

    Sure, when rest of us who paid mortgages from 2008 onwards get the TARP/HAMP/CHUMP money returned to us.

  117. D-FENS says:

    DC cops appear overrun in a few videos I’ve seen online. I still think Antifa does a better job at rioting.

  118. No One says:

    As I interpret Biden’s tax plans, income over 400k would be taxed federally at an effective 52% rate, up from 37% now, with more restrictive deductions. Add on gov Phil’s 10.75% NJ top rate and that’s 63% of high incomes taken by tax. Welcome back to the 1970s.

  119. Hold my beer says:

    Bystander

    They were looking at houses online in the 600-700k range. I asked them why? You can get a 3,200 to 3.500 sq ft new house in a safe town with a great school system for 400k. They want to live in a gated community. Wife also wants to spend 100k on furniture and upgrading the appliances. I just shook my head. They could sell current house in jersey and pay cash for a brand new one for 400k in Texas. Go furniture shopping on a sale at Nebraska furniture mart and do zero interest for a year and fill the house on 15k to 20k. The savings on no income tax would cover the furniture payment and just pay off the balance with end of year bonus, and if no bonus just right a check since they wouldn’t have a mortgage payment. If he got canned after a year he would be able to maintain his lifestyle doing instacart and selling cds or some other junk on ebay without having to touch his savings or 401k. And unlike jersey, jobs in his field are increasing in number in the DFW area.

    But if they make the move they need to live in a gated community and have italian furniture and subzero appliances, even though they are living in a 40 year old pos tract housing in a soulless subdivision in jersey that has a hodgepodge of decor and furniture they got from tacky big box stores.

  120. leftwing says:

    Re: Santelli and Tea Party….SX SMH….

    You do realize that the Repubs accepted the Tea Party?

    That one year after the Tea Party came into being the Repubs rode it to take 63 seats and the majority from the Dems in the House? Not a typo, +63 in one election, compared to your -10 this time around?

    That AOC and her tribe are your Tea Party?

    Progressive changes within the Repub Party (Chairmanship limitations, etc) have their origin in the Tea Party. Trump is a logical, if wildly imperfect, stop along that line.

    The Repubs are that much further ahead in looking forward, provided they don’t regress back to old ways because of the Orange Idiot.

    You guys are still suppressing popular vote as recently as 2016 through Superdelegates…..

  121. SomeOne says:

    JCer,

    Expect dual income families to pick up the tab again, households earning 200k and up will be taxed severely to cover the tab and the death tax coming back but probably at the historical levels. I expect favored capitol gains status will end for folks earning over a couple hundred thousand. All kinds of bad legislation will be passed while they hold control.

    Your predictions seem as bad as homeboken’s. Last time when dems had a majority in both chambers, GOP went on a filibuster spree. The major thing we got from a filibuster-proof majority was a watered down health care reform. So, don’t panic.

    BTW, 400 AGI joint is where taxes may be impacted…

  122. leftwing says:

    “That is biggest kettle black post I have ever seen on this blog. Calling for death and destruction of our country..”

    Don’t see the inconsistency. My mantra is the current group needs to go. Most of them, especially the Dems, will only leave dragged out kicking and screaming. Need dark times to get all the public’s attention to make that happen.

  123. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing,

    What damage? When 39% of the country believes the election was a fraud, that is damage. Normalization of conspiracy theories and a general distrust of government during a pandemic are other points of damage. Add to this Trump’s impact on general discourse and division. If you believe his words helped blow the senate run offs in Georgia, you believe in the power of the impact of Trump’s words and behavior.

  124. 3b says:

    I bet Biden and the Dems are not going to undo Trunps 10k limit on state local property tax deduction.

  125. 3b says:

    30 year I would argue the Dems are pretty divisive too, and it started with Obama.

  126. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    Trump is different than all who came before him. His behavior in office is unto itself. There is no comparison. Obama was run of the mill divisive.

  127. Juice Box says:

    House and Senate now in recess and are in lockdown, nobody in or out. Pence has left the building.

  128. D-FENS says:

    Jesus Christ this is crazy…they’re in the capitol building. Video on C-SPAN shows security stopping debate in house and senate and securing doors.

  129. leftwing says:

    Capitol breached. Sessions stopped because of it.

  130. Juice Box says:

    Interesting video from inside the Capitol. Confederate flags.

    https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1346899955097726985

  131. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing,

    Trump’s words clearly inspired the protestors.

  132. leftwing says:

    Good. Don’t care what inspired them. Keep it coming.

  133. leftwing says:

    Then shoot a couple of them. Inside the building.

  134. leftwing says:

    LOL. Republican protestors walking through statuary hall looking around like “what do we do now?”.

    Idiots are amateurs at protesting….the Left would have had the statues in pieces by now.

  135. Juice Box says:

    They made it to the Senate Chamber doors….one guy is shirtless.

    https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1346899437520621568/photo/1

  136. BRT says:

    I think it’s antifa disguised as Trumpers

    /end sarcasm.

  137. leftwing says:

    Need to keep your shirts on…you want the guy that takes one in chest to be wearing an American flag….that’s the graphic.

  138. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing,

    You advocate for this behavior? You think this is good for the country? Good for economic stability? Other than a hatred for Democrats, what’s your motivation?

  139. Bystander says:

    The Dow loves Capitol violence..up over 500 points of course.

  140. leftwing says:

    30, as usual you simply are not reading (or understanding) what I’m saying.

    I have no hatred for Democrats.

    The system is corrupt. Change is needed.

  141. leftwing says:

    And given your shock, any commentary on the CHOP zones and takeover of parts of American cities by Leftist protestors?

    Or is protest just a problem by the Right?

    It’s laughable…I’m watching this on CNN, all they can talk about is how the protestors are “violating federal trespassing laws”. Portland, m’fckers.

  142. leftwing says:

    I personally love watching protestors waving American flags as opposed to burning them.

  143. leftwing says:

    Military/SWAT taking positions on Capitol roof.

    Tune in if you’re not watching. Getting interesting.

  144. Juice Box says:

    CongresCritters evacuated using the underground tunnels and subways.

  145. leftwing says:

    Yeah, I think the guys on the roof went into the rotunda. IIRC there is a door at the top of the viewing galleries that goes on the roof. Seems like they are getting LEO in that way too.

    CNN reporting armed standoff at House floor doors. Weapons drawn.

  146. Bystander says:

    ..and here Ed is claiming that left is party of symbols. Waving American flag with life size Trump on it, well I don’t think it means America, Proud Boy.

  147. Juice Box says:

    Reports are protestors trying to break down House Chamber doors now.

  148. JUice Box says:

    House chambers door now barricaded. Guns out.

    https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1346905489561579532/photo/1

  149. leftwing says:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346904110969315332

    Drama queens on CNN calling this a coup attempt and sedition. LOL.

  150. leftwing says:

    Hahaha, CNN’s line is that this is ‘unprecedented’ and we have ‘never seen anything like this’.

    Then one commentator breaks character and mentions the Vietnam protests….

    Must have had an earful from producer, fell all over himself rationalizing his way out…

  151. Juice Box says:

    I am taking bets that Congressman Jerrold Nadler shit his pants during the evacuation.

  152. Libturd says:

    It’s a coup koo.

    I thought the puzzy hats were embarrassing. Trump has set the Republican Party back by years. Just wow!

  153. leftwing says:

    LOL. CNN now painting this as a ‘attempt at a forceful overthrow of the US government’.

    Guess the cameras missed the tanks, marines, and fighter jets.

  154. Libturd says:

    I love a good protest. This is a disgrace.

  155. D-FENS says:

    We watched city blocks get burned to the ground and police stations overrun and occupied by left wing protestors all summer…few arrests and many quickly released. As shocking as this is…it’s not surprising.

  156. Juice Box says:

    Vietnam Washington DC protests in 1971. 7,000 arrests. They even had a Marine Battalion deployed who were pointing guns at the protestors.

  157. Libturd says:

    At least have a worthy cause.

  158. leftwing says:

    2:58p post of the day.

  159. leftwing says:

    Nadler

  160. Libturd says:

    But what is the cause D? Bunch of sore loser pansies, who love disorder. I can’t get away from this sh1t-for-brained third world country fast enough.

    I have never been so embarrassed by my countrymen.

  161. Fast Eddie says:

    Just catching up now… busy with work. Real Americans fighting for real America… making a statement… I like it. It’s about time the right causes some chaos. The American flag in droves is truly a beautiful sight!

  162. 3b says:

    30 year; Fair enough.

  163. Hold my beer says:

    i thought the DC National Guard had been activated on Monday to guard the capitol so this wouldn’t happen.

  164. leftwing says:

    “But what is the cause D? Bunch of sore loser pansies, who love disorder.”

    Haven’t you just described the Left, since about, uhhmmm, 1932?

  165. D-FENS says:

    My point was those should have been shut down more forcefully to discourage it.

    Libturd says:
    January 6, 2021 at 3:03 pm
    But what is the cause D? Bunch of sore loser pansies, who love disorder. I can’t get away from this sh1t-for-brained third world country fast enough.

    I have never been so embarrassed by my countrymen.

  166. leftwing says:

    CNN has a great camera view. Down the street, wide angle shot of the Capitol, its stairs, and its balconies. Entirely occupied. Sea of humanity.

    People putting the puppets on notice….it’s our house, not theirs.

  167. Bystander says:

    Delusion..Vietnam protests – 1.6m total people dead. 2021 protest- Wahh, our Burnt Orange Thurston Adolph Howell the third lost due to democracy we claim to cherish

  168. ExEssex says:

    3:07 the real Americans are neither.

  169. ExEssex says:

    3:13 sounds like it really gets you excited.

  170. leftwing says:

    OMG, I have to tune off CNN…I’m going to bust a gut….direct quote, “these people are breaking the rules and security protocols. It’s illegal.”

    CNN. LOLOLOL.

  171. Libturd says:

    Sorry leftwing, but you don’t get to protest the results of a fair election. There is nothing comparable. This is truly a joke.

    What a bunch of snowflakes.

  172. D-FENS says:

    Someone is in Nancy Pelosi’s office right now posting pictures of her emails on twitter. They must have left so fast they didn’t have time to lock their computer screens

  173. Juice Box says:

    Beer- activation of 340 guardsmen, while the total deployment at any given time will be 114.

    114 Guardsman = Traffic Duty
    DC Police = Protecting mayor Bowser’s Home
    Capitol Police = Washing out Nadler’s pants with a firehose which could take all night.

    We can expect a multi-billion dollar bill this session to add a moat around the Capitol filled with sharks and laser beams attached to their heads.

  174. Juice Box says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen we have a new Speaker of the House! And he wants to ROCK!

    https://twitter.com/abosm14/status/1346914669974450176/photo/1

  175. leftwing says:

    “3:13 sounds like it really gets you excited.”

    Passionate.

    Some sit around here describing the last four years as the “worst ever”… “destroying our our country”….”must be stopped”….

    All from your 1% State. In your 1% county. In your 1% house. With your 1% wealth. And your 1% job.

    All while on your fat asses.

    I think the Left protestors are freaks and their ideology incredibly dangerous….

    But they, and these people on TV right now, care enough for their country to get out there for their beliefs at grave risk to themselves.

    So, yeah, I’m passionate. Because when things get so bad – by your own standards – it is not just your right but your obligation to do something.

    Puppets are on notice. Even better, to my prior points, they are on notice from both the Right and Left.

    Next four years are going to be fun.

  176. D-FENS says:

    Guys relax…this is a “mostly peaceful” protest

  177. Juice Box says:

    Lol – The protestors in the capitol know how to queue up it seems.

    https://twitter.com/DrewHoltzapfel/status/1346914421755555842

  178. Bystander says:

    Right now would be the time for Biden to levitate down from top of capitol and have swarthes of officers tear gas the entire crowd. I saw that it was ok to do that somewhere.

  179. Libturd says:

    I’m perfectly fine watching the results of electing a complete buffoon. He is now burning his last bridge. The Republicans should have impeached this moron for the sake of the party.

    One woman shot in chest in critical condition.

    This is now officially a riot. Nice job morons.

  180. njtownhomer says:

    This country is not even a third world. Ignorance is a bliss. The ARMY needs to be deployed.

  181. Libturd says:

    This is not kneeling in front of a tank.

    Breaking and entering is not a peaceful protest.

  182. Juice Box says:

    Lib – they forgot the gasoline, that would have made it “mostly a peaceful protest” according to CNN

  183. Libturd says:

    Think they refuse to leave?

    I do.

    Get all of the dormant buses and bus all of these snowflakes to prison. It’s what they want. A country of laws and justice.

  184. D-FENS says:

    Giving out $600 to citizens while sending billions overseas in the same bill was likely the last straw.

  185. ExEssex says:

    3:31 and it’s not a foot locker.
    It’s the capitol.

  186. Fast Eddie says:

    Four years of the left and the media hammering and hammering, looting, destroying, burning, impeaching, crying, screaming, yelling… so… what do you expect? Pelosi called for the National Guard I just heard? I think? F.uck that hag, hope she gets clubbed.

  187. njtownhomer says:

    For the rioters, the punishment should be shoving the Gadsden flag in a hole I believe.

  188. D-FENS says:

    Georgia state capital now also surrounded by “peaceful protestors”

  189. ExEssex says:

    3:34 you act like this is something to be proud of. Can you sink any lower?

  190. ExEssex says:

    Rooting for these assh*les because they are white.

  191. Fast Eddie says:

    “Breaking and entering is not a peaceful protest.”

    Tell that to the 27,854 store, restaurant and business owners over the last four years.

  192. Juice Box says:

    It will be dark in about an hour. They will go home soon, this isn’t an Antifa protest where gasoline containers start showing up.

  193. Bystander says:

    Like I said, this is the end of Apocalypse Now. Cultists violently trying to please their Orange god’s wishes. Orange god is now dead. Willard is leaving temple and cult looking at him as new god…except Willard is Ted Cruz and he is staying to their cheers. CBS stating he must feel culpable. No, he is rejoicing. He got what he wanted. Cruz 2024

  194. D-FENS says:

    Lawmakers will learn nothing…they will likely use this as a way to further restrict liberties further agitating citizens.

  195. Bystander says:

    “27,854 stores”

    How many closed due to Trump’s handling of the virus? America has spoken.

  196. Juice Box says:

    CNN reporting – Trump just sent in the Guard and other Federal Officers, it will be over soon. Acosta is pissed because he does not get to ask a question in the press room. Tapper calling this a nation of laws and invoking the 25th amendment.

    What will CNN do for ratings once Trump is gone?

  197. D-FENS says:

    Trump just ordered in the National Guard

  198. leftwing says:

    “This is not kneeling in front of a tank.
    Breaking and entering is not a peaceful protest.”

    LOLOLOLOL.
    Minneapolis.
    Seattle.
    Portland.
    Etc
    Etc

    Puh-lease.

  199. Juice Box says:

    I am waiting for CCN to say what if Trump pulls a switcheroo with the Guard and they take over in a Coup?

  200. 3b says:

    Juice: as for CNN and Trump gone, they will continue to blame him regardless. The Democrats will get a complete pass. Don’t know what Fox will do, no one on the horizon to take Trumps place, and going forward I think they will distance themselves from Trump.

  201. leftwing says:

    “The ARMY needs to be deployed.”

    Yes. How many at Kent State, four? Given everyone is desensitized by social media I would think 20 would be a number. Again, hopefully most clutching flags or wearing stars and stripes.

  202. Fast Eddie says:

    How many closed due to Trump’s the democrat governors handling of the virus?

    Fixed.

  203. Libturd says:

    I hope the world is watching CNN and not Foxnews.

  204. Libturd says:

    Just another Trump failure. What is wrong with this guy? He has a fail wish.

  205. leftwing says:

    “D-FENS says: Lawmakers will learn nothing…they will likely use this as a way to further restrict liberties further agitating citizens.”

    And you win the prize for today.

    Every outlet is ‘blaming’ the participants, DJT, Repubs…..

    Funny, not one looks inward at themselves, the media. Keep kicking people down, and one day they kick back.

    A large majority of voters cast their ballot for one of two candidates who were Party outsiders. A plurality of Americans refuse to associate with either Party.

    Yet the Party Establishment is all over TV telling us that the citizens are the problem.

  206. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The irony in life. Dems obsessively hate the guy that took out their enemy.

  207. Hold me beer says:

    Maryland and Virginia are sending in their national guard.

  208. grim says:

    There needs to be more machine gun for people to be using words like insurrection.

  209. Libturd says:

    We are really a banana republic now.

  210. Sunset says:

    1100 National Guard en route to the capital. Sunset in DC is 5:15 this evening.

  211. Juice Box says:

    Shooting victim in the Capitol, looks like swat team may have had someone with an itchy trigger finger.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9119427/Mike-Pence-REFUSES-follow-Donald-Trumps-demand-overturn-Joe-Bidens-victory.html

  212. No One says:

    Chicago, police are on the case of that female teacher:
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=FL8bcA6QfwC6ktQJMtCKpLKw

  213. Juice Box says:

    They are already leaving. BLM and Antifa would be setting things on fire by now.

  214. ExEssex says:

    You guys on the right are losers.
    Embrace it. Own it.

  215. ExEssex says:

    Sadly BLM would have more respect for the Capitol than the entitled white people there today. BLM know they would get shot doing this. The Trumpers think they are above the law.

  216. Phoenix says:

    Test completed. Stand by for round 2.

  217. ExEssex says:

    4:14 do you really think they’ll get another bite of the apple.
    Remember this is Trump’s watch this is occurring on.
    Trump: “I will relentlessly pursue anyone who destroys federal property”.
    Riiiiiiiight. Trump encouraged the protesters on the Mall.
    More sedition. More lawlessness. Encouraged by the current President.

  218. unome says:

    “BLM know they would get shot doing this.”

    LOL, I have a BLM placard in my car. Better than a full Lieutenants shield.

    Anything BLM is an automatic get out of jail free card.

  219. Fast Eddie says:

    Hey, remember when that liberal preschool teacher told a BLM rally that it’s time to start murdering white conservatives or when Scalise got shot at a baseball practice or when a senator said to impeach the muthjerf.ucker or when Tim Kaine called on liberals to fight in the streets against Trump supporters or the central park play featuring Trump’s assassination or Kathey Griffin holding up a head or Madonna wanting to blow up the White House or Loretta Lynch calling for liberals to march, bleed and die in the streets as they “resist” Trump or Sarah Silverman calling for a military coup or the Snoop Dogg music video featuring a rapper executing a clown-faced Trump or another rapper wanting to pimp the first lady? That went on for the four years of this administration so… let’s hope the left in this country suffers and fails at every turn… bigly.

  220. Bystander says:

    “They are already leaving. BLM and Antifa would be setting things on fire by now.”

    Not true believers of their cause. What a bunch of p&ssies. People stay later at a stadium after their football team loses.

  221. No One says:

    I normally vote Republican, and Trump is a disaster who just keeps getting worse. He’s been making up lies for a month about not losing. Conspiracy theories. Demanding Republican politicians sacrifice their grip on reality and their careers in some impossible attempt to change his election loss which is all about his vanity.

    Trump is going down as the biggest baby and sore loser in US political history.
    If he had some class, he’d just blow his own brains out at this point.

    I’m pretty sure he’s happy the Repubs lost in Georgia. At one point I think he told his followers not to vote. He has totally been inciting the ignorant to protest his loss.

  222. njtownhomer says:

    “another rapper wanting to pimp the first lady?”

    who wouldn’t want this?

  223. Phoenix says:

    Haha. And America was worried about this threat, but not the one that happened. If China ever attacks America we will be finished as all those boys are asleep at the wheel.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38571/ominous-iran-related-threat-to-fly-plane-into-capitol-broadcast-to-air-traffic-controllers

  224. Bystander says:

    NoOne,

    He is creating a third party – the Orange Whigs.

  225. Phoenix says:

    No One,

    You should tune into Chris Hedges. Now be very careful not to blame him, he is just a reporter.

    America’s democracy is very fragile at this point.

  226. No One says:

    Eddie,
    Yes I remember thinking those people were idiots. Now I think Trump loyalists are idiots because they’re also doing the same dumb stuff. If Trump tells them to start wearing pink pen1s hats to protests should they?

  227. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m seriously sick of both sides. It’s a bad reality show. Worst part, this is china winning. WTF up people!! Work hard, try to make money, and take care of your family and community. Enough from both sides. Enough with the woke bs, and enough with the conspiracies. China is going to win if we don’t step it up.

  228. Phoenix says:

    ” I have a BLM placard in my car. Better than a full Lieutenants shield.”

    Didn’t know they legalized marijuana yet, but you have to be smoking something to believe this statement.

  229. Phoenix says:

    Was a crime committed here?

    What a babe!
    https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/former-substitute-teacher-charged-with-raping-eighth-grader/

    And if it was a hot male teacher banging your 8th grade daughter that is fine? Next she will claim she is a victim, taking antidepressants, and that he seduced her.

  230. unome says:

    “Work hard, try to make money, and take care of your family and community.”

    Total anathema to at least half the population.

    “China is going to win if we don’t step it up.”

    Already happened. Years ago. Clock is just being run out. You can’t overcome a three TD deficit with four minutes to go

  231. Phoenix says:

    Peaceful? They found a pipe bomb. Guess it’s not so peaceful after all.

  232. Fast Eddie says:

    Hey, remember when the angry mobs stormed the Kavanagh hearings?

    https://tinyurl.com/y56bwgzc

  233. Bystander says:

    Asking for my friend Ed. Don’t these thousands of “producers” have jobs? Who can head to DC on a Weds at 11AM?

  234. Phoenix says:

    Some truly iconic pictures in the Capital on the Daily Mail.

  235. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    That’s different. Those are women. So it’s okay. Just like the one that raped her middle school student.

    No crime there, right??

  236. leftwing says:

    So good to hear from all these officials from the highest ranking Dem in the country to the Speaker, to the city mayor about how this protest is an highly illegal and to denounce it in the strongest terms.

    Just like they did when all the American cities were burning over the summer…wah-wah.

  237. Phoenix says:

    I wonder how this will be reported in the Iranian news…

  238. LurksMcGee says:

    Pumpkin,

    I agree with you. No one seems to understand that great nations don’t get invaded, they implode first and other nations use it as an opportunity. Very sad that everyone is playing eye for an eye instead of moving above conflict and finding a solution.

    Damn shame

  239. Phoenix says:

    What comes next?
    You’ve been freed
    Do you know how hard it is to lead?
    You’re on your own
    Awesome, wow!
    Do you have a clue what happens now?
    Oceans rise
    Empires fall
    It’s much harder when it’s all your call
    All alone, across the sea
    When your people say they hate you
    Don’t come crawling back to me
    Da da da dat da dat da da da ya da
    Da da dat da da ya da!
    You’re on your own

  240. Phoenix says:

    “Very sad that everyone is playing eye for an eye instead of moving above conflict and finding a solution.”

    Pumpy says ” Eff ’em. So this is what you get.

  241. Juice Box says:

    Cops have cleared the Capitol Building and steps. Fun is over until it gets dark. Those staying DC will be drinking heavily tonight. That is when the Antifa and BLM show up and perhaps more trouble.

  242. Libturd says:

    Never saw so many wannabe GI Joes in one place. This whole protest could have been avoided by offering 3 free rounds of paintball in exchange for their retreat.

    Those who voted for Trump own this mess.

  243. Phoenix says:

    “Never saw so many wannabe GI Joes in one place.”

    Pretty condescending and elitist statement. And I don’t even support these characters.

  244. Phoenix says:

    “Do you realize now what you have done? US gets the kind of ‘democracy’ it championed overseas”

  245. Phoenix says:

    Same thing happened in 2011 with the “Arab Spring” that started in Tunisia and then burned its way across North Africa to the Persian Gulf. In some places it “succeeded,” overthrowing decades-old governments. In others it failed, setting off wars in Libya and Syria and blood on the streets of Bahrain. Again, the US cheered this on as democracy – except for Bahrain, which hosts a major naval base.

    More recently, the US denounced as illegitimate the presidential elections in Belarus, Bolivia and Venezuela. While Minsk and Caracas managed to resist – and got sanctioned for it – the “democrats” in La Paz were successful for a while, but ended up losing the vote last year.

    Way back in 2004, the Guardian wrote approvingly about how the US has created a “slick” operation of “engineering democracy through the ballot box and civil disobedience,” developing since Belgrade a “template for winning other people’s elections.”

    Now the same mainstream media that slavishly followed the State Department line in denouncing elections elsewhere as “rigged” and color revolutions as spontaneous democracy are clutching their pearls when Americans who believe their election was stolen take to the streets and storm their Capitol.

  246. leftwing says:

    Love you Lib but your tone deafness is what contributes to today.

    You’ve spent four years yelling about a bad orange man. I’ve spent four years pointing out the hypocrisy and repression that accompanied your narrative.

    All while you tell us how easy it will be for you to make your third million.

    Vast swaths of this nation – by last count about 70 million – have been disenfranchised from life, not just politics. And may have in their entire savings, if they have any, 1/1000th of your worth.

    Something like this was entirely predictable. If not here with Trump as a catalyst, somewhere else.

  247. Bystander says:

    Lib,

    Check out smashing Capitol windows at about 1:35, dressed like HALO playing wannabees. Pathetic group of child men.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-trump-supporters-storm-the-us-capitol-disrupting-electoral-college-count-205551266.html

  248. leftwing says:

    My prediction, no more objections from Senators during the rest of the EC

  249. Very Stable Genius says:

    25th amendment now!

  250. leftwing says:

    “25th amendment now!”

    Uhm, are you trying to burn the whole city down?

  251. Very Stable Genius says:

    2017: Trump takes office

    2018: Republicans lose the House

    2020: Republicans lose the Presidency

    2021: Republicans lose the Senate

  252. Juice Box says:

    Looks very very peaceful now outside the capitol. No fires, no smoking ruins, no rocks and bottles being tossed at police. It is as if the last three hours never happened.

  253. Libturd says:

    leftwing,

    The real story here is not Republican verses Democrat.

    The real story is how inept our government has become.

    If a bunch of unarmed country bumpkins in K-Mart fatigues can successfully storm the Capitol Building, then something is horribly wrong with our country.

    As to me profiting off of the stock market? I am no fool. Either you can beat them or you can join them. The former is simply not possible in this “tone deaf” country. I didn’t make a good living from acting like the vast majority of my selfish peers. I made my living in spite of them and the country that enables their poor behavior.

    No one said something prophetic a few weeks back (you know, back when he was still a Trump supporter). He went off on a rant how he would rather watch our country suffer through Covid the way it is, rather than having been locked down Wuhan style for a month, with dissenters disappeared by the government. I didn’t say anything then, but I will now. In an ideal world, a ruling body could ask everyone to lockdown for a month and they would for the better benefit of all. In the not so distant future, China will win the war with America. I would bet my life on it. Why? Because it doesn’t matter what your ideological beliefs are. We are all soc1alists the moment we cashed that Covid check. Whether it is forced by military might or disguised as freedom as we are spoonfed the crumbs, we only win if we are united. We are not united. China is whether it’s right or wrong. War over.

    We are a country of selfish pricks. From the person who refuses to wear a mask to the politician who is only in it for personal gain. Personally, I live my life in a way where I try to be as generous as possible to as many people as I can. I also try to point out corruption where I see it and I see it everywhere. Our country is far from collapsing. But it’s certainly headed in that direction. The masses are asses and I’m not sure how that can be fixed without responsible and accountable government.

  254. Phoenix says:

    This is what happens when your computers get hacked and foreign powers get ahold of your Regime Change handbook.

  255. D-FENS says:

    How many private businesses were torched?

  256. D-FENS says:

    Does anyone here honestly care what happens to members of the house and senate? None of them care what happens to you…that’s for sure.

  257. Phoenix says:

    “Does anyone here honestly care what happens to members of the house and senate? None of them care what happens to you…that’s for sure.”

    My vote for post of the day. Thank you.

  258. Phoenix says:

    “How many private businesses were torched?”

    By who, Murphy??

  259. Juice Box says:

    Lib- re: “If a bunch of unarmed country bumpkins in K-Mart fatigues can successfully storm the Capitol Building”

    You are onto something, why weren’t they ready? It seems like some stood down. Heads need to roll.

    https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight

  260. chicagofinance says:

    I see people’s tax returns and net worth. As the year has progressed, I have become more forward in at least mentioning charity as a potential course of action. Especially people complaining about having to take distributions out of their IRA’s and how it increases their taxable income. I am just doing my job, but I don’t pound the table. Some of the attitudes are difficult to tolerate.

    Sometimes you see people making a $100,000 contribution to a convent or some other organization that is in sync with a person’s moral code. One too many times I’ve seen limousine liberals drop their money on frivolous crap. I tire of their sanctimonious garbage.

    Libturd says:
    January 6, 2021 at 5:41 pm
    We are a country of selfish pricks. From the person who refuses to wear a mask to the politician who is only in it for personal gain. Personally, I live my life in a way where I try to be as generous as possible to as many people as I can.

  261. Phoenix says:

    “From the person who refuses to wear a mask ”

    Leave Karen alone.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXZFy6YVrU

  262. Juice Box says:

    Not to be left out of the fun Governor Murphy is sending 50 troopers to Washington, D.C.

  263. grim says:

    For what, vacation?

  264. joyce says:

    In an ideal world, a ruling body could ask everyone to lockdown for a month and they would for the better benefit of all.

    Yes, absolutely.

    But since we do not live in an ideal world, we shouldn’t be okay with granting the government extraordinary powers that they may ultimately use in nefarious ways.

  265. D-FENS says:

    Hey guys! They shot an unarmed mostly peaceful protester!

    https://twitter.com/mikeygee2020/status/1346939141896994817?s=21

  266. Hold my beer says:

    Murphy is paying tribute so he can get a bailout.

  267. Phoenix says:

    D-FENS,

    Looks like she is going to feel that one. Seen enough of those in my line of work to last a lifetime.

    That team working on her is going to be very busy should she make it there.

  268. njtownhomer says:

    All this for a guy who claims to have bone spurs not to draft but spent gazillion hours on golf course. Who calls suckers and losers for the soldiers who lost their lives? This bunch of rioters are complete idiots, much more stupid than the BLM crowd. This is what happens if you have 7/24 FOXnews, newsmax or whatever that idiot-maker-box is doing.

  269. Phoenix says:

    On closer look at that video I don’t think she is going to make it. But stranger things have happened.

  270. Juice Box says:

    I see a report that she is dead.

  271. No One says:

    Chinese state news will definitely be running these clips to convince their population that elected government is a bad idea.
    Libturd – I didn’t get a check from government. I have written seven digits of tax checks to government this year though.
    You’re a dreamer if you think in the US people would accept being padlocked inside their homes for a month, thrown in jail for leaving their house, and living on whatever rice, carrots, cabbage and tofu the government officials decide to give you. My relatives in China hated it, but they have had a lifetime of following government orders. A lot of Americans would riot, my guess mostly not Republicans. Not me, I stay in, work from home, and can order the fancy stuff delivered to my door. I wear fancy expensive masks that probably work. I don’t hang out with people much anyway, don’t want to.
    Funny story, one of the few people I actually know who got the covid is a guy constantly obnoxiously preaching on social media to follow the rules, wear a mask, etc, be like Joe B.. Then he got it recently and admitted he went out to a wine bar with some young couple during the recent upturn.. Oopsies. I hope he recovers ok. Let he without sin padlock his own door first.

  272. leftwing says:

    “How many private businesses were torched?”

    How many of those 20+ statues in the lobby were pulled down and smashed?

  273. leftwing says:

    Actually Phoenix I’m nominating this one of yours as post of the day…

    “This is what happens when your computers get hacked and foreign powers get ahold of your Regime Change handbook.”

  274. Very Stable Genius says:

    Public Citizen
    @Public_Citizen

    BREAKING: We are calling for Pence and the cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office.

    We are calling for the House to impeach.

    We are calling for the Senate to convict.

    We are calling for Trump to be criminally prosecuted.

  275. D-FENS says:

    Who among you would feel badly if the protesters made it to the senate floor and gave Mitt Romney a right hook to the mouth? Would any of you get the sads?

  276. leftwing says:

    Lib…trust me, I don’t begrudge anyone accumulating wealth, market or otherwise.

    My point is different.

    You, generically and specifically, continuously focused on Trump, the man. That somehow everyone following him was brainwashed or idiotic, or both. That he was the issue.

    My point is that he is a rationale stop (notice I didn’t say endpoint) on the train that left the station three decades ago.

    This idiot, failure, caricature of a man was only able to be elected because he tapped into that vein.

    On many levels this country has ceased working for a broad swath that used to be the bedrock…your blue collar average Joe going mostly paycheck to paycheck just wanting the opportunity everyone else in his shoes before him had.

    Every day over the last four years that you focused on the orange man or that somehow his followers were sub-intelligent or brainwashed you missed that setup.

    For decades now we have a populist movement on the left. Now you have one on the right. I would urge caution….while their politics are (mostly) distinct and different their foremost and most immediate goal is common.

    That is the story.

    Not some small fingered spray painted man who recognized it first and in a small way capitalized on it.

  277. leftwing says:

    Romney is a useless privileged sack of shit.

  278. ExEssex says:

    5:43 no just pipe bombs left at political HQs.

  279. leftwing says:

    And right on cue CBS throws red meat into the Right populist ring……

    The headlines all over the 6pm news refers to ‘riots’, not protests.

    They literally blame ‘the mob’ for the shot woman’s death.

    Contrast that with burning cities over the summer being ‘protests’ and immediate opprobium and witchhunts for any LEO involved in any conflict around those protests…

    These affronts, subtle and blatant, occur daily.

    They fuel the fire. They seed the mobs.

  280. Phoenix says:

    And now we present to you, Civil War hero, Joe Biden, to give a speech which will go down as one of the most lame and insincere outpourings of drivel and drool.

    This guy could not unite 2 neodymium magnets that were correctly polarized.

  281. ExEssex says:

    Washington, D.C. – National Association of Manufacturers President and CEO Jay Timmons released the following statement in response to large groups of armed Trump adherents who have violently stormed the U.S. Capitol building as members of Congress meet to count the electoral votes:

    “Armed violent protestors who support the baseless claim by outgoing president Trump that he somehow won an election that he overwhelmingly lost have stormed the U.S. Capitol today, attacking police officers and first responders, because Trump refused to accept defeat in a free and fair election. Throughout this whole disgusting episode, Trump has been cheered on by members of his own party, adding fuel to the distrust that has enflamed violent anger. This is not law and order. This is chaos. It is mob rule. It is dangerous. This is sedition and should be treated as such. The outgoing president incited violence in an attempt to retain power, and any elected leader defending him is violating their oath to the Constitution and rejecting democracy in favor of anarchy. Anyone indulging conspiracy theories to raise campaign dollars is complicit. Vice President Pence, who was evacuated from the Capitol, should seriously consider working with the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment to preserve democracy.

    “This is not the vision of America that manufacturers believe in and work so hard to defend. Across America today, millions of manufacturing workers are helping our nation fight the deadly pandemic that has already taken hundreds of thousands of lives. We are trying to rebuild an economy and save and rebuild lives. But none of that will matter if our leaders refuse to fend off this attack on America and our democracy—because our very system of government, which underpins our very way of life, will crumble.”

    -NAM-

    The National Association of Manufacturers is the largest manufacturing association in the United States, representing small and large manufacturers in every industrial sector and in all 50 states. Manufacturing employs more than 12.1 million men and women, contributes $2.35 trillion to the U.S. economy annually.

  282. Phoenix says:

    It’s fun to watch when those who are supposed to work for others finally get to meet them and hear their grievances, no matter what side you support.

    A clear message was delivered today. There has been a huge disconnect between the monarchy and the plebs. That woman who died will be going down as a martyr.

  283. Juice Box says:

    re: “large groups of armed”

    Any arrests for weapons, how about a nail file?

  284. Phoenix says:

    A cell phone is the most dangerous weapon in your arsenal today. Combined with a social media feed it is absolutely devastating.

    Well, after a can of Twisted Tea, that is..

    https://youtu.be/i3o_6dFPyy8?t=46

  285. Hold my beer says:

    Setting new covid daily records again

    https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid-19-updates-dfw-north-texas-jan-6/287-adcdf8ba-4983-4769-82ae-58dc5c52eead

    Broke 7,000 new cases today. New records in hospitalizations too. I still think we break 10,000 a day in another week or two.

    My area has 20% less people than all of jersey, but we had 40% more new cases today than jersey.

  286. AP says:

    The poison of resentment. The poison of hatred. The poison of selfishness. They will destroy you.

    Watching the unfolding events with a clear mind. Praying none more are hurt or killed.

  287. Juice Box says:

    To her credit Pelosi is powering thru with a few thousands armed police. Electoral vote in house for Arizona is in about an hour from now. There was mention of no more challenges, we shall see.

  288. Very Stable Genius says:

    .
    @Acosta
    : “I will tell you, Jake, I talked to a source, a GOP source close to the president who speaks with him regularly, and I take no pleasure in reporting this, but this source tells me that he believes the president is out of his mind.”

  289. Juice box says:

    Acosta is just pissed he did not get to ask a gotcha question at a White House press conference today and will be stuck covering sleepy joe, no prime time show for him, Wolf ain’t ready to retire or kick the bucket yet.

  290. grim says:

    Twitter disabled Trump’s account.

  291. grim says:

    And we thought this guy was an idiot? In retrospect, he wasn’t half bad compared to this….

    Former Republican President George W. Bush condemned the rioting at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday and said he was appalled by the “reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election.”

    “It is a sickening and heartbreaking sight,” Bush said in a statement. “This is how election results are disputed in a banana republic – not our democratic republic.”

  292. grim says:

    All Medical Professional should be lining up there to get the jab at Hospitals, done in the parking lots drive by “shots”.

    No more of this nonsense where you need to go into the Hospital, wash you hands, and wait socially distant until they call your name to fill out paperwork, get a name badge printed and then go to another floor to again wait socially distant for your name to be called for a shot.

    Clifton opened a vax site at the High School that’s all drive thru.

  293. Bystander says:

    Oh jesus ,not now Twitter..he will go full blown democide if his little hands can’t tweet out his insane ramblings.

  294. Juice Box says:

    News is reporting woman killed was shot by law enforcement.

  295. Bystander says:

    Ex,

    That is Twilight Zone level crazy. You have a business leader, representing the largest companies in the US, asking politicians to remove the president of the United States. It is all so normal..we are all drama queens. Black Mirror Season 6 should be awesome (5 was total garbage). So much material now. Start with brainless red headed robots scorching earth purposely for unknown reasons..there is one episode alone.

  296. joyce says:

    Chuck Schumer compared today to Dec 7, 1941.

  297. 3b says:

    What a sad day for the USA. However, the violence should have been condemned back in the summer. The Republicans and the Democrats and all the media bear part of the responsibility for this. However, at the end of the day it was the responsibility of each and everyone of these morons who elected to carry out this attack.

    The Republicans will bear the brunt of this because in spite of the earlier violence, it did not entail attacking the capitol building. It will take years perhaps never for the Republicans to recover from this. We will have one party rule for years. The rapid decline of this country continues, and our enemies namely China are filled with glee.

  298. D-FENS says:

    What a wired situation. All the money spent on security post 9/11… and a few hundred Trumpers can punch their way in?

    the police opened the fkuking gates

    https://twitter.com/cevansavenger/status/1346920924310867968?s=21

  299. leftwing says:

    “A clear message was delivered today. There has been a huge disconnect between the monarchy and the plebs. That woman who died will be going down as a martyr.”

    My guess when they release her ID her background is pretty clean…no gang banging rap sheet. We’ll see…

    “re: “large groups of armed”. Any arrests for weapons, how about a nail file?”

    Didn’t even scan the NAM statement when I saw that line….no proof anyone was armed and highly unlikely…DC has some of the most draconian gun laws in the nation, you’d be a fool to bring a weapon….plus, say what you want about white, blue collar rednecks, they generally follow gun laws scrupulously.

  300. Fast Eddie says:

    My guess when they release her ID her background is pretty clean…no gang banging rap sheet. We’ll see…

    Reports are that she was a married, 14 year military veteran.

  301. Juice Box says:

    It was one shot fired, if she had a weapon their clips would have been emptied. Looking at the photos of the scene the trigger control was not great for the capitol police see the pics on social media.

  302. grim says:

    Murphy dips into Phase 1b:

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/01/nj-covid-vaccine-firefighters-police-will-be-eligible-to-get-the-vaccine-starting-thursday-murphy-says.html

    New Jersey will open its coronavirus vaccine program up to police and fire personnel starting Thursday, Gov. Phil Murphy said Wednesday.

    Until now, only health care workers and nursing home residents and staff have been able to get the vaccinations.

    “These are folks who have been just as much in harm’s way on the front lines as many of our healthcare workers, and they have often been called upon for emergency medical support and they’ve ben the ones who have needed to deal with the knuckleheads,” Murphy said during his latest COVID-19 briefing in Trenton.

    He said EMS teams are already in the 1a category.

    “We will continue to ensure access for our 1a populations,” Murphy said. “But it also follows that the people they often work so closely with — our police and fire _ also be allowed to get in line for the vaccines.”

    Police and fire professionals are technically part of the 1b category, as stated in the state’s 182-page plan for vaccine distribution, includes “frontline essential workers” and people who are 75 and older.

    “We are able to open up vaccines to (police and fire personnel) based on the available supply,” state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said. “They are a priority group within 1b and will be the first group within 1b to have access.

  303. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well, it was a solid 5 days. Here’s to 2022.

  304. Juice Box says:

    re: “deal with the knuckleheads”

    Easy enough to lay a map over the highest infection areas of NJ….They actually do the work for you on many websites.

    His voters are knuckleheads?

  305. grim says:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/hhs-secretary-recommends-states-open-covid-vaccinations-to-older-americans-vulnerable-groups-.html

    Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar on Wednesday urged states against “micromanaging” their allotted coronavirus vaccine doses, saying it’s better to get the shots out as quickly as possible even if they haven’t been able to vaccinate all of their health-care workers.

    “There is no reason that states need to complete, say vaccinating all health-care providers, before opening vaccinations to older Americans or other especially vulnerable populations,” Azar told reporters during a news briefing.

    “If they are using all the vaccine that is allocated, ordered, distributed, shipped and they are getting it into health-care providers arms, every bit of it, that’s great,” he added. “But if for some reason their distribution is struggling and they are having vaccine sit in freezers, then by all means you ought to be opening it up to people 70 and older.”

  306. Juice Box says:

    Pumps I hear you are going back into the classroom in 2022….I am going to suggest building a man cave aka “office” in the shed for now so your wife can work in peace. Grim can give you details on a mini-split he seems to be expert on the stuff, just need to pull a line in the back yard for some juice. There are plenty of reasonable designs to look at on Amazon, wayfair etc. If you find the right one they will drop ship for free, just some elbow grease to assemble. Don’t bother with a permit…

    A wifi repeater is cheap, new wife not so much.

  307. Very Stable Genius says:

    @brianstelter
    New from CNN: “A growing number of Republican leaders told CNN that they believe Donald Trump should be removed from office before January 20. Four of them called for the 25th Amendment to be invoked, and two others said the President should be impeached”

  308. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Man, PLUG was up to 50 in after hours trading. That pain is now to the tune of a half million dollars. What a dumb mistake on my part. It happens, had a winning lottery ticket but through it away.

  309. Libturd says:

    I hear you Leftwing, but I really can’t agree with you here. I didn’t hate like this on any other Republican ever. This is not about partisanship. This isn’t even about electing Trump, who I never thought would be THIS bad. Remember, I hated HRC more. I wrongly expected Trump to be more like the open minded liberal he was on the Stern Show for decades. I always knew he was creepy, but never thought he was dangerous. For this, I didn’t fault anyone for electing him. Especially with the promises of a drained swamp. Though, his first political ad did scare the crap out of me. It was clear from the start that he was playing the fear card.

    It wasn’t until I actually saw his popularity and how he continued to lie to build it, that I grew to hate him. He wasn’t draining the swamp at all. He was basing every decision on building his popularity. A man who never belonged to a church was suddenly inviting evangelists to bless the White House. He was hiring and firing staff like Woody Johnson did coaches. He discovered that his supporters would swallow anything he told them. All politicians lie. Trump was turning it into an art form. And then those schoolyard nicknames. What the fcuk? Perhaps if Trump was a late night talk-show host, it wouldn’t have been so bad. But he was the president of America. Sorry. If he was accomplishing miracles, I might give him a pass. But he wasn’t. Just a lot of lies and deception. Of course his complete mishandling of Covid was the last straw for me.

    Once he went full blown making fun of the disabled and the special olympics, and his supporters still gave him the pass. Well, now you know why I call them all morons.

    Trump was dangerous. It showed today. Biden is going to be corrupt. Not dangerous. America. What a country!

  310. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Threw

  311. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I started my current 10 year plan. Dollar cost avg starting at 3,000 a month into the 5 ark etfs. Started this week. 20% each plan. Don’t care what the price is. Banking on major innovation in the next 10 years. Hope it pays off.

  312. Juice Box says:

    re: “brianstelter”

    Once Joe Biden is president. No way CNN can make money on him if they ever. Most of their audience like their founder’s days are numbered less than 4 digits.

  313. Very Stable Genius says:

    Frontrunning

    Editas Medicine soared as much as 50% on Monday to record highs amid recently commentary from ARK Invest founder Cathie Wood saying genomic stocks will drive returns for her investment portfolios over the next five years.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 6, 2021 at 9:33 pm
    I started my current 10 year plan. Dollar cost avg starting at 3,000 a month into the 5 ark etfs. Started this week. 20% each plan. Don’t care what the price is. Banking on major innovation in the next 10 years. Hope it pays off.

  314. Juice Box says:

    Pumps I am currently an unemployed Millionaire with little debt. I don’t talk often about how I got here but I literally did nothing other than type on a keyboard, drink beer and blog.

    I did forget, hold on BURP, my cousin FRED is buying everything. He is a vacuum cleaner like no other, any garbage he will take and give you a brand new dollar no questions asked, no return policy either.

    America F-K YEAH!

  315. crushednjmillenial says:

    On Rioting . . .

    Watched some CNN coverage this evening. My biggest takeaway is that they used the “Riot” word often.

    All summer, no matter how many buildings and businesses were burned, they noticeably did not use that word.

  316. Libturd says:

    My site monitor emailed me. Besides fire and rescue, funeral and other death-related employ have been added to the registration list.

  317. Juice Box says:

    Lib – Election year, Our Governor needs to space it out to drive around the state for the live stream and photo shoots. Make sure the old folks understand if they are skipped because they let it spoil it wasn’t Phil’s fault…just following CDC guidelines which well he can drop anytime the fu*ck he wants anyway…@SCIENCE!!!

  318. crushednjmillenial says:

    Ranting about the Capitol riot . . .

    I did not appreciate that George W. Bush had a word to say about the Capitol riot. George W. Bush is easily in the top 5 of individuals responsible for today. Serious contenders for that conversation are GWB 43, Obama, whoever the most powerful media figure on the left is, the same media guy on the right, Pelosi, McConnell, Trump, and Jack Dorsey are all in the conversation.

    Clinton disgraced the office with his libido and lying, thereby debasing what a “politician” is in the eyes of the American public – in my opinion we’re still living with his choices on this – if a politician can stain that blue dress in the oval office, then why not this Trump guy? If Clinton kept it in his pants, I don’t know if the American public would stand for the reality show guy as president.

    GWB 43 lied about WMD in Iraq – hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead and trillions of USD flushed down the toilet, further debasing “politicians” in our eyes while creating budgetary pressure which could have been instead used to lift up Joe Sixpack. Pay your student loans, Joe Sixpack, says GWB 43, the war criminal. Pay your $5-10K+ a year on healthcare, Joe Sixpack.

    Obama said “hope and change” but he didn’t prosecute Wall Street. Apparently, to the left, the election of a black man to the office of the Presidency is not a serious clue that racism should not be held up as the preeminent issue facing the US – still in 2021, every article on the NYTimes somehow can be connected to a racial inequity. The Dems had control over all three branches of the government for Obama’s first two years but he didn’t get anything economic done that was felt by Joe Sixpack. We were supposed to have shovel-ready projects but instead Joe Sixpack sits in traffic. Remember to pay the $2,000 daycare bill, Joe Sixpack, says Obama on his way from his $10 million DC mansion to his $10 million Marth’s Vineyard estate, while he signs his Netflix deal.

    They all shipped the jobs overseas. They all didn’t address the cost issue of healthcare (as distinct from access or quality). They all didn’t act to reduce housing costs in the prosperous areas of the nation, while also failing to increase the demand for, and quality of life in, the unprosperous areas of the nation. None of them built the darn bridge from Long Island to CT or the extra train tunnel from NJ to Manhattan. The insurance companies still rip us all off. Higher education costs are unrestrained. The rust belt got rustier. Purdue Pharma execs have not been sentenced to life. Cancer alley is still cancer alley. I still see a homeless guy rambling by the convenience store.
    The corporations received what they lobbied for. The little guy takes what he can get. There’s a thinner podium at the “top” of our society in this country. There’s a thinner “upper middle class.” Rightly or wrongly, the owners of capital are taking a larger share than labor.

    This is a long way of saying it was a long road to get here. And, based on Booker’s speech this evening (which could be summed up as “this is all Trump’s fault”), no one learned anything today.

    /endrant

  319. 3b says:

    Crushed: Well said, I have been saying much the same for years. I go back to young Bush as the beginning of the end, but you could say it started with Clinton,in that he cheapened the office of the President. Young Bush an absolute disaster leading to the do nothing empty suit lecturing Obama, Full of his own BS and arrogance, to the lunacy of Trump, and now back to the bought and paid for corrupt lying Biden. The rapid decline continues.

  320. leftwing says:

    Ditto. Articulated what I have been trying to say for years better than i have done.

  321. Libturd says:

    Yup. Well done.

    If there is anything that unites us, it’s criticizing government corruption.

  322. Bystander says:

    Crushed,

    Some hooey here. The #1 responsible is each adult person storming the capitol. #2 is the Orange idiot for flaming it. Agree on GW wars/debt but really Patriot Act and Homeland security weaponizing local police. Clinton for not keeping it in his pants? Cmon..the trust in the presidency was destroyed by Nixon and immoral Vietnam war/draft. Obama did not prosecute? Fine but what were GB and Mukasey doing from 2007 – 2009 when the whole criminal banking ring had exploded. Too busy crafting TARP? This was executed exactly as the govt and banking criminals wanted. Way beyond party lines. It is systemic. I would say Wikileaks and Prism under Obama’s watch were more destructive to social trust.

  323. njtownhomer says:

    Crushed nailed it. Well done.

  324. Phoenix says:

    Clinton,
    Really, his infidelity? No one should give a crap about that except the 3 people involved. And why is he the guilty one? A woman, not a child, got down on her knees full well knowing he was a married man. A woman’s sexual power is a real thing especially when you are married to Karen Klinton. For him, it’s easy, it was Glass-Steagall. That was huge. 2nd being NAFTA, I was hit square in the face with that one, watched a newly updated factory get shipped to Mexico when we were finally modernizing into something good. Guy was a Turd.

    With all of the union “dismantling” how is it the only unions that seem to survive, thrive, and do well are the one’s for government employees? If unions were so bad and governments sided with business to help them dissolve, then why not for their own? Stupid question, we all know the answer to that one.

    The manufactures post to invoke bill 25. Those Effen hypocrites. Really. GFY. You were fine in the 80’s to ship jobs overseas and have continued to do so till the last 30 seconds. You have probably outsourced 500 in the time it takes me to type this. So shut up already, you are a bigger part of this than Trump ever was.

  325. Phoenix says:

    They will be analyzing this for years to come as that room full of skanks actually defecated into their Depends. I mean, that is why they wear them anyway, but this was a full blown shart instead of the regular dribble from an oversized prostate.

  326. Phoenix says:

    Whomever does full blown paintings of some of the photographs I saw today will make a good buck.

    If I were the Sham-Wow guy Vince what’s-his-name I’d be hawking those on late night TV right now. Pillow Biter My Pillow guy could embroider some of his as commemorative pieces.

  327. Phoenix says:

    Bill Belichick must have designed the end around play the protestors used on the Capitol police.

    Hell, those Capitol police have a worse defense than the Detroit Lions.

    Or maybe they were all just looking up for those Iranian Stealth Fighter Jets. You know, that sand covered country that is such a big threat to America. It’s so easy to eliminate them without firing a shot. Just throw parachutes on our Karens and drop them out. Once they infiltrate they can nag the Iranians to death.

  328. ExEssex says:

    Maga hats & Trump flags are now symbols of an insurrection.

  329. grim says:

    NYC Issues ‘Urgent’ Warning for People 75+

    Only took 6 months to acknowledge this? Countless lives would have been saved if these recommendations were made earlier, and more forcefully.

  330. D-FENS says:

    Oh no! Don’t throw that tea in the harbor! We’re better than this!

  331. Fabius Maximus says:

    Well that was a banner day for the Law and Order party.

    And the response in here is the usual big dose of Whatabouutism!. Left equating what we just witnessed with SuperDelegates as an equivalent of trying to subvert the will of the people?

    To all those, “I always said he was an idiot and I never supported him!” You dont get the moral high ground here. Where was the condemnation of his actions? Quite a few of you where quite happy with those kids in cages.

  332. Fabius Maximus says:

    Here’s todays Song for the Day!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoDwVNOPyyw

  333. BRT says:

    If there is anything that unites us, it’s criticizing government corruption.

    I disagree. Because when we saw blatant government corruption with Biden with respect to China/Ukraine, we saw a lot of excuses on this board.

  334. grim says:

    Civics question.

    What’s the difference between looting a neighborhood grocery store and looting the capital building?

    Why are these different actions? Why are they not both condemned equally?

  335. BRt says:

    Because groupthink and tribalism prevails on every issue.

  336. Very Stable Genius says:

    Fabius Maximus says:
    January 7, 2021 at 7:34 am
    Well that was a banner day for the Law and Order party.
    And the response in here is the usual big dose of Whatabouutism!.

    BRT says:
    January 7, 2021 at 7:43 am
    If there is anything that unites us, it’s criticizing government corruption.

    I disagree. Because when we saw blatant government corruption with Biden with respect to China/Ukraine, we saw a lot of excuses on this board.

  337. Bystander says:

    What’s the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter? Depends on which side you are on, Grim. That is always the answer.

  338. 3b says:

    Grim: You are right, but symbolically storming the capitol building is far worse. People won’t forget that. And this is a disaster for Republicans and moderates/centrists in general.

    And I blame the Democrats and CNN and the rest of them for not condemning the violence back in the summer. It was shameful on their part.

  339. Randolph Reddington says:

    BRT @ 8:32

    I agree. Its crazy how that prevails above a single code principles that everyone should have. Reminds me of this joke that I heard that I love and represents the issues that many people have.

    “When you’re a pedestrian in NY, you get mad at a car that doesn’t let you walk. When you’re the driver, you’re mad at the pedestrian that doesn’t get out of the way” (or something to that nature)

    For some reason, everyone plays both sides of an argument instead of just figuring out the best way to go about things.

  340. 3b says:

    Fab: well here you go again, but let’s not forget it was Obama who had the cages built in the first place. Had he not started it in the first place perhaps it would not have been an issue with Trump.

  341. D-FENS says:

    MAGA should get a plaza named after them right next to BLM plaza in DC right?

    grim says:
    January 7, 2021 at 8:26 am
    Civics question.

    What’s the difference between looting a neighborhood grocery store and looting the capital building?

    Why are these different actions? Why are they not both condemned equally?

  342. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    Trump has been screaming incendiary sh#t for years without rebuke from Republicans in national politics. Why don’t you lay the blame on him and those Republicans who cowered in fear instead of speaking out?

  343. 3b says:

    Phoenix: As for Clinton and Monica. It goes to show the character of the man, that’s why there is some relevance there. And he did it in the Oval Office. Yes, she was a woman, and obviously a troubled one. He took advantage of that. He also should have thought about his own Daughter and how he would feel if a person in power took advantage of it. As for Monica she didn’t make a dime off of it, as opposed to today where I suspect she would have made a lot of money.

  344. 3b says:

    Bystander: Goes back to the repeal of Glass stegall which was Clinton era and supported by both Dems and Repubs and Clinton himself. You gloss over Obama not prosecuting he could have and he didn’t. Hope and change my behind.

  345. Fast Eddie says:

    The left1st media is calling yesterday a riot as opposed to the peaceful protests of the past year:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZU9HelcJhw

  346. 30 year realtor says:

    D-fens,

    Your MAGA equation to BLM is total BS. Making such a comparison shows you to be a moron, a racist or both.

  347. Juice Box says:

    Shooter at the Capitol yesterday. WARNING GUN VIOLENCE

    They said it was “law enforcement” Looks like an old congressman…

    https://twitter.com/1stacyphillips/status/1347094167411806211

  348. Fast Eddie says:

    “Today may be a dark day for our democracy, but there is hope and change coming.”

    ~ DC Mayor, Muriel Bowser

    Lol. More hope and change, more symbolism from the pie holes of the disconnected marx1sts.

  349. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You were on a roll last night. Have me laughing. Thanks, Juice!

    Hopefully, I don’t have to end up following your advice on the home “office.” lol

    Thought just crossed my mind.. Left and Phoenix, you guys should start a consulting business for men facing a messy divorce with a psycho ex. You guys have valuable experience and knowledge on the subject. If my wife ever turns to the dark side, I’m coming to you guys for advice on how to prepare for war.

    Juice Box says:
    January 6, 2021 at 10:04 pm
    Pumps I am currently an unemployed Millionaire with little debt. I don’t talk often about how I got here but I literally did nothing other than type on a keyboard, drink beer and blog.

    I did forget, hold on BURP, my cousin FRED is buying everything. He is a vacuum cleaner like no other, any garbage he will take and give you a brand new dollar no questions asked, no return policy either.

    America F-K YEA

  350. Phoenix says:

    “Yes, she was a woman, and obviously a troubled one. He took advantage of that.”

    obviously troubled? Really? A woman of age who is college educated and no longer a child makes a decision to crank down on a MARRIED man. It’s not like he lied to her, she knew he was married and did she care at all about the other woman, Hillary? Please.
    She knew what she was doing. I’m not defending him, but she is not a victim.

    Just like the post yesterday about the 25 year old teacher with the middle school student the comment was something like, was this really a crime? Yes it is.

    And I’d wager to bet there are lots of stains in the Oval office if one were to shine a 415nm UV light around the room.

    Glass Steagall and NAFTA outrank this by miles.

  351. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hope I’m correct…I just see massive innovation coming. It’s prob at the expense of labor, so I don’t want to get left behind. This woman has balls of steel combined with a high iq for innovation trends. If you can’t beat it, mine as well join it.

    Very Stable Genius says:
    January 6, 2021 at 9:48 pm
    Frontrunning

    Editas Medicine soared as much as 50% on Monday to record highs amid recently commentary from ARK Invest founder Cathie Wood saying genomic stocks will drive returns for her investment portfolios over the next five years.

  352. BRT says:

    “When you’re a pedestrian in NY, you get mad at a car that doesn’t let you walk. When you’re the driver, you’re mad at the pedestrian that doesn’t get out of the way” (or something to that nature)

    It’s a natural reaction, and I’ve been guilty of having the wrong gut reaction. I’ve trained myself to come to the correct logical conclusion in the next second. I’ve accidentally missed stopping for pedestrians on multiple occasions. For whatever reason, I didn’t see them. In my younger days, I would be all for flipping out. I find myself waving and mouthing sorry more often than not in these situations. It usually deescalates whatever nonsense that would normally follow immediately.

  353. 30 year realtor says:

    Trump’s rhetoric has shown to be a clear and present danger. Fast Eddie, how do you rationalize supporting this type of behavior from the POTUS? What has to occur before you denounce Trump’s lies and dangerous behavior?

  354. Fast Eddie says:

    David Tate, 32, a truck driver from New Hampshire, said he drove 14 hours because he doesn’t want his three children to grow up under a Biden administration. He said he doesn’t believe Biden could have gotten the amount of votes he did because of the massive crowds Trump drew compared to the smaller events held by Biden.

    “It’s kind of our right and our duty as American citizens to stand up against this naked treason,” he said.

    Look at the link, it’s a black guy, not a white guy. F.uck all of you using the rac1sts labels over and over.

    https://tinyurl.com/y5v9pl8y

  355. 30 year realtor says:

    Eddie,

    What does your outlier example prove? Grasping for straws to prove that label doesn’t fit you?

  356. Fast Eddie says:

    Fast Eddie, how do you rationalize supporting this type of behavior from the POTUS?

    The same way you and your kind supported the relentless, incendiary, inflammatory, rabid, extreme, insane and fanatical behavior from the liberal media, social outlets, the tearing up of a SOTU speech by a House Speaker, by the attacks on innocent shoppers and people eating dinner, by the burning down of peoples businesses and public buildings, by the destruction of historical monuments, by the false accusations of se.xual assaults by an incoming justice of the law, by the four-year, fake, false, accusation of foreign collusion and by the theft of an election. That’s how I rationalize it.

  357. Fast Eddie says:

    Grasping for straws to prove that label doesn’t fit you?

    I’ll repeat this again… through my family business, year after year for 25 years, we held a Christmas party at our establishment for inner city kids with Santa, goodies, food, music, presents, etc. all out of my parents pockets. It was about 50 to 75 kids each year. And, we donated household items to poor families that we no longer were using. This is the 135th time I’m repeating this on this blog. Stop calling me a rac1st!

  358. 3b says:

    30 year: I may be mistaken, but I don’t recall you condemning the violence of BLM during the summer. That too was shameful. Why didn’t the Democrats and CNN condemn that violence and destruction. They bear part of the responsibility for the shameful violence of yesterday.

  359. 30 year realtor says:

    Eddie,

    Trump has been inciting hate based on race and national origin for decades. His rhetoric regarding the election is analogous to shouting fire in a crowd. Trump is the POTUS. How do you believe any of the comparisons you make are valid?

    Media and public reaction to Trump’s behavior is based on how shocking and out of the ordinary it has been. Not sure about what it is about your personal landscape that prevents you from seeing the obvious.

  360. joyce says:

    Sounds like your father was very generous.

  361. Phoenix says:

    It ain’t a football game, and it ain’t over by a long shot. America is burning like Centralia, Pa.

    Bankruptcies, job loss, foreclosures, Covid, all dumped on a geriatric man’s lap. Man who has not done one thing to solve any of the problems. A corporate man. One so corporate that a manufacturers group thought it was a bright idea to insert it’s “opinion” when it should have kept it’s mouth shut. And a man who calls his son a model citizen. That’s disturbing to say the least.

  362. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    Not sure where you have been but there was endless condemnation of violence and property crime by the media and Democratic politicians.

    Have you considered that Trump’s rhetoric played an essential role in all of the turbulence that has occurred in the past year?

  363. 3b says:

    30 What Exactly has Trump said for decades about race and national origins?

  364. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    Birtherism. The Central Park 5. The are other examples but I am not going to waste my time looking for more.

  365. 3b says:

    30 Year: sorry I don’t think so. I never once heard Cumo or Di Blasio or the mayor of Portland and Chicago condemn the violence or CNN. It was peaceful protests no use of the word riot. Biden did not condemn the violence until late in the summer .

    I equally despise both parties and have for years, but I see far more hypocrisy on the Democrats side than the Republicans.

    And as I was watching the evacuation yesterday, all I saw was a sea of white and gray haired old men. When are these old geezers going to step aside. Biden, Mc Connell, Pelosi all of them should be gone!! We need a 3rd party where men and women of good will can come together and actually get things done that will benefit the majority of Americans. Of course it won’t happen. The rhetoric of the left and the right is destroying this country.

  366. LurksMcGee says:

    Thank you 30 year.

    And even with the tit for tat, it still doesn’t amount to anything but distractions and bad situations.

    As for the BLM protests, people were made for DEATHS within their communities at the hands of police. This non sense that happened yesterday was because of losing in an election. Those are wildly different causes.

    Should there been another way to handle the BLM protests? of course. There were some awful ugly results. But that situation and this one are vastly different from a cause perspective

  367. 3b says:

    30 year: Ok agree on Birthism , Central Park 5 yes but that was recent, you said decades ago. How do you justify Biden’s comments on desegregation particularly his jungle comment?

  368. Fabius Maximus says:

    “What’s the difference between looting a neighborhood grocery store and looting the capital building?”

    About $250K and 10 years at sentencing. Why is that?

    Whatabout
    Whatabout
    Whatabout
    Whatabout

  369. 3b says:

    Lurks :Nonsense. Many of those protesters were white middle and upper middle class rioters . They went into minority neighborhoods and brought violence and destruction and then went home to their comfortable middle/ wealthy lifestyles. Minorities and recent immigrants lost businesses they spent years building. And they were already suffering from the pandemic. People lost jobs, and residents lost stores and businesses that they needed. And these people wreaked their destruction and then left. Simply wrong and not condemned. The Democrats don’t get the moral high ground here.

  370. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    Central Park 5 incident occurred in 1989.

    Biden has a knack for saying some stupid things. He has a long public career as you are always pointing out. Regarding racial justice issues, Biden may not be perfect but his overall record is favorable.

  371. Grim says:

    That would have been secret service or fbi.

    No way an old congressman has a gun in the Capital.

  372. 3b says:

    30 year Ok I stand corrected on Cuomo. But CNN and Biden and many other Dems it was silence and or sympathy with the so called protesters.

  373. 3b says:

    30 year so the jungle comment is not racist? He gets a pass? And his lying about his academic achievements, and his plagiarism? He had to withdraw from running for President in the 80s because of it. You are a proud Democrat ,?was Biden the best you guys have? Does not say much.

  374. Juice Box says:

    Grim – Congressmen are allowed to have guns at the Capitol, just not in DC proper unless they are a resident. He looks too old to be a cop and certainly not Secret Service that was no Clint Eastwood.

    It will come out soon enough.

  375. 3b says:

    30 year yeah on Oct 28, Di Blasio finally decides to condemn the violence.

  376. 3b says:

    Fab: Stop . You are the biggest whataboutry poster here.

  377. LurksMcGee says:

    3b,

    I generally agree, but the problem is that MOST people think of the BLM protest as BLACK PEOPLE; Not the people you describe. So if you condemn the Black people that had a legitimate issue, it negates everything. If someone got on a podium and specified all of this while condemning the knuckleheads, maybe things would be better but to be honest, it probably wouldn’t.

    The idea that people think that someone else has moral high ground seems to be the problem and turns it into a competition. My main point is that everyone needs to look above their own squabbling and realize what makes sense.

  378. Phoenix says:

    “I equally despise both parties and have for years, but I see far more hypocrisy on the Democrats side than the Republicans.

    And as I was watching the evacuation yesterday, all I saw was a sea of white and gray haired old men. When are these old geezers going to step aside. Biden, Mc Connell, Pelosi all of them should be gone!! We need a 3rd party where men and women of good will can come together and actually get things done that will benefit the majority of Americans. Of course it won’t happen. The rhetoric of the left and the right is destroying this country.”

    This makes sense to me.

  379. Juice Box says:

    3B – Biden did condemn the violence including back in May when they were burning down Minneapolis, it’s documented during his campaign speeches. It wasn’t broadcast on prime time, or tweeted all over. Again the Media is to blame here for the perception.

    However more important than Biden, because we all know he won’t do jack shit for the far left BLM folks and others groups who helped him get elected.

    We are now to believe all of a sudden, for the leftists the nations capital and USA means something to them. No long ago they were protestors, rioters and anarchists.
    Today it seems they are the most patriotic and USA loving Americans. They got the outcome they wanted, they have the POWER to shape the country so now a complete shift in mindset to Law and Order.

    I watched CNN yesterday, normally I rely on social media first hand accounts, not reporters, but their overlay yesterday full of snide comments about the protestors being stupid, calling for law and order and arrests from Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer and Jake Tapper, it was all on display how much TDS they suffered from, how much they hate regular Americans, even though they full well know many of them are insufferable and irrational.

    I just don’t know what those talking heads are going to do for a living when Trump is gone in two weeks. Cover Nap Time?

  380. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    Third party is not the only solution. Term limits and campaign finance reform would help substantially.

  381. Chicago says:

    Phoenix: Sorry to side track your discussion. I posted that yesterday as a joke. BUT. It totally different as a 15 year old boy. A 25 year old strikingly good looking woman with a good body. The woman is a kid herself. Once a boy hits 16, the pressure to lose it is on. To receive room service of this nature is a status symbol. I have a 14 year old son. I see his value system and his friends. Again, I am making a joke, but I think the arrest happened because the mom found out.

    Phoenix says:
    January 7, 2021 at 9:17 am
    Just like the post yesterday about the 25 year old teacher with the middle school student the comment was something like, was this really a crime? Yes it is.

  382. LurksMcGee says:

    Juice @10:14,

    Damn shame the news can’t just be boring facts.

  383. LurksMcGee says:

    30 year,

    I’d think the campaign finance reform should come first.

  384. Juice Box says:

    Let’s all now watch as “defund the police” fades away. I cannot wait to see the billion dollar spending bill to upgrade the 2,300 strong capitol police force and to build man traps and walls around the capitol building.

  385. leftwing says:

    “Left equating what we just witnessed with SuperDelegates as an equivalent of trying to subvert the will of the people?”

    Again, your reading comprehension approaches zero….what the Dems did with the superdelegates in 2016 was a MUCH worse act of subversion than yesterday could ever aspire to be.

    To all those, “I always said he was an idiot and I never supported him!” You dont get the moral high ground here.

    I’m proud of yesterday. Americans coming together to protest their government for grievances. American flags everywhere…not being burned or defaced but waved proudly in support of the ideals of this nation. Blue line flags…LEO family presence. POW/MIA flags…..veterans. Bedrock of middle America. These protesters literally filed into statuary hall, respectfully…no destruction…..50 statues and priceless artworks lining the walls and not one destroyed or defaced. No burning. No looting. And they left peacefully on their own. Regular citizens making sacrifices to address their government. That is the highest ground possible.

  386. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    You are now moving the goalposts about Biden. Is Biden the best choice? Probably not, but he was chosen because he was thought to be the most electable. And I guess those who pushed him as the choice were correct on electability.

  387. Phoenix says:

    The woman is a kid herself.

    So here is the rub. What is a kid? What is an adult? At what age is someone responsible for their actions? She is a “kid” at 25, but some are tried as adults at 16.

    It’s thinking like yours that allows the woman to not serve jail time, when a man in a similar circumstance would be in jail and register as an offender. You can’t have equality when you have this type of thought process. Lucky for her I am not her judge or on her jury, she would do the equal time that a man would do.
    Now that is fair.

  388. Phoenix says:

    And I guess those who pushed him as the choice were correct on how much he would support corporations.

  389. 3b says:

    Lurks: Fair point. If we are to condemn violence and rhetoric then it has to be on all sides. As for most people thinking BLM is all Black. I saw many instances on TV, where there appeared to be far more white protesters than Black. How dare they go into minority neighborhoods that were already struggling and destroy them! Will they come back to rebuild them?? No. And I know people who proudly display BLM signs on their front lawn who would freak out if a Black family bought the house next door to them as they would be concerned about their property value. Same thing with moderate and low income housing, oh they are big supporters of it, just not in their town.

  390. 30 year realtor says:

    Phoenix,

    Campaign finance reform can make a dent in corporate influence in politics. I am under no illusion that it would eradicate influence, but reduce it, yes.

    I am not looking to be a Biden defender. Just responding to 3b.

  391. Phoenix says:

    I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed yesterdays episode of “America the divided.”

    Can’t wait to see the next one in the series. The Viking character was my favorite, but the guy scratching his nuts on Pelosi’s desk was a close second. The guy with the podium in his hand is hilarious.

  392. Libturd says:

    “Third party is not the only solution. Term limits and campaign finance reform would help substantially.”

    Term limits could help, but I doubt they would. It would probably only serve to expediate their self-enrichment and they simply would only need to determine a way to pass the baton (keys to the gravy train) to the next in line.

    Campaign finance is really the key, IMO. And to this point, Biden just chose the appellate judge who supported overturning the decision that the anonymity and the size of political donations are corruptive and giving birth to SuperPACS.

    So yeah, it’s fun to go tit for tat, left vs. right, this wrong is less wrong than that wrong. But at the end of the day, we continue to ignore the REAL issues that our killing our republic. The truth is, probably every single politician in DC should be locked up. Not just HRC. So to defend or single anyone of them out for being better or worse than the next is really a complete waste of time. What needs to be focused on are the obstacles to progress. Not all of this partisan bullsh1t. Sure their are policy differences between the two parties. But in the end, you are fooling yourselves if you actually believe any of them are in it for any reason besides self-enrichment.

  393. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing,

    How do you equate a political party making unfair rules with a mob forcibly entering the Capitol?

    Proud? Protesting their government for grievances? A mob whipped to a frenzy by a POTUS making baseless lies about a fraudulent election without a shred of proof.
    What part of this are you proud of?

  394. Juice Box says:

    Campaign finance reform is dead and buried just like John McCain. SCOTUS put the nail in the coffin and said it was 1st amendment violation for corporations who aren’t people but get to have free speech and spend how they see fit. SCOTUS has also ruled limits on contributions were unconstitutional, violation of the first amendment.

    Congress would have to go and amend the constitution to define what is a person and who is entitled to free speech etc and exclude corporations and unions, PACs etc.

    We are all going to be dead and buried before they ever come close to getting money out of politics in this country.

  395. 3b says:

    Lib: Then Mc Connell and Garland should get along just fine. Mitch hates campaign finance reform. As for term limits I think they would help and make the Presidency one 6 year term.

  396. Chicago says:

    Keep an eye on the UST 10. It could suck on he life out of real estate. Or create a FOMO moment if people think financing costs are about to explode.

  397. Juice Box says:

    Elon Musk now world’s richest man. I wonder if Bezos will send him a gift?

  398. Phoenix says:

    “We are all going to be dead and buried before they ever come close to getting money out of politics in this country.”

    Yup, that about sums it up. Which is why:

    “What part of this are you proud of?”

    At least SOME sort of response from a country that should be up in arms over what is happening but instead is ordering from Amazon and Uber Eats.

  399. joyce says:

    There was definitely some property damage.

    leftwing says:
    January 7, 2021 at 10:21 am

  400. Phoenix says:

    What did Musk do, marry Bezos’s ex-wife.

    Now that would be a locomotive that could pull some weight up a 6% grade.

  401. 3b says:

    Phoenix: I enjoyed those YouTube links!

  402. Fast Eddie says:

    For your viewing pleasure:

    https://tinyurl.com/y3gq8ymo

  403. Phoenix says:

    “property damage.”

    Keep hearing this line. It’s the only thing America cares about is it’s f’n property.

    Women who beat their kids because the toddler spilled some juice on their precious floor, or got some crayon on the table they wanted for their whole lives.

    You ain’t taken it with you.

  404. 3b says:

    Juice: I don’t understand that? Not that I paid much attention to Elon and his electric cars until recently. I had thought when hearing the name Elon Musk in passing that it was a men’s cologne from the 80s!!

  405. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    Watch the movie on Netflix, Death to 2020. Those are scenes. It was a rip.

  406. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    That picture had all women in it. You misogynist. /s

  407. Libturd says:

    Lefty, Yes.

    If you want to go tit for tat. I agree with 30year that the impetus for the march was weak. One can try to argue that the election was “stolen” by allowing mail in voting (without opting in). But the time to argue this was before the election. Not after. And it would have been moot as the pandemic does and did call for exceptions to the norm. In the modern day MO of not caring about the content of what the other party is trying to pass nearly as much as making sure NOTHING from the other party can be passed. I did not see Trump ever try to compromise. He was no different than Obama.

    Perhaps it is time for the hicks of America (and I say that with kindness) to get on board, rather than stop the train of progress?

    No one likes a violent protest, though I do believe it can be the means to an end (Kent State shooting for example). The problem is when the “end” is wrong. This was the argument so many people here had about the BLM protests.

    If there was any silver lining that I saw yesterday. It was that a number of the Trumpees were finally donning masks (and horns).

  408. Libturd says:

    Chi,

    Thought about the same thing yesterday. No more refinancing credit card debt back into the home. Not good for home prices. Government still has to deal with massive fallout from renters not paying too. The multi across the street from mine has been on the market for multiple months now. That nearby train station has no value any longer.

  409. Bystander says:

    Biden 1977: Senate Judiciary hearing, Biden did talk about busing policies and how “unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point.”

    The quote in the claim that has been spreading online is false. Biden did not directly say, “I don’t want my children to grow up in a jungle, a racial jungle.”

    Trump in 2020: Tweets video from Presidential account, with man shouting “White Power!”, Q: do you denounce racist groups? “Stand down and Stand By”

    You are wrong 3b.

  410. Phoenix says:

    “I agree with 30year that the impetus for the march was weak.”

    It’s not about the election, silly. This is cumulative damage finally coming to the surface.

    Trump threw a match to the tinder that was already there. This time it caught.

    Just wait till the economy collapses on SloeJoeCorporateSnifferBiden. It just might.

    That’s when the rubber will meet the road.

  411. Juice Box says:

    3B – Space Karen is now the richest person in the world despite TESLA never generating a profit, not even $1. No one has failed to the top better than Elon Musk.

    For every car Tesla delivered in 2020 they now have 0.8% market share.

    How can this stock not crash? And maybe bring the whole house of cards with it.

  412. 30 year realtor says:

    Libturd,

    Regarding value of train station, proximity to NYC is still priced into North Jersey real estate. If this value gets removed and NYC doesn’t recover, real estate values are in for a bigger hurt than even 3b would predict.

  413. Libturd says:

    “This is cumulative damage finally coming to the surface.”

    Wait a minute. I thought that was already used when Trump got elected. At some point, there has to be a statute of limitations.

    As for the economy collapsing under Biden, no argument there. Not sure how this will help the cause of any of the protestors yesterday, though.

    So far, Mr. Market doesn’t care who is in charge.

  414. Libturd says:

    New York will probably become more of a tourist center than a finance center. This will still help property values, but will hurt property taxes somewhat.

    It’s still too early to tell. We’ll have to see in the Fall of 2026 when all of the vaccines have been distributed. :P

  415. Phoenix says:

    “At some point, there has to be a statute of limitations.”

    No, it does not work that way, as it is generational. It continues in cycles. Boomer with low interest rates and high home prices gave himself a soft ride into the sunset.

    Only thing that might slow him down is Covid.

  416. 3b says:

    Bystander: We are splitting hairs here. He said the word jungle. If it had been a Republican it would have been the end. Biden is just another long term corrupt politician and a liar. I hate them all!

  417. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    I agree, the two party system is not working in America.

  418. Dink says:

    “And they left peacefully on their own”

    LOL. The MAGA mob definitely did not leave on their own. It took one of them getting shot before turning around. Tear gas was deployed inside the building.

  419. 30 year realtor says:

    Be careful who you hang around with. Photos from inside the Capitol from yesterday showing “protesters” wearing shirts with antisemitic slogans like “6 million wasn’t enough” and Camp Auschwitz. If you are on the same side as these folks you need to carefully examine what you stand for.

  420. Phoenix says:

    Facebook deleting accounts:

    The so pious Facebook. Responsible for more teenage suicides than anything in history.

    Scum anyway.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-apple-are-fight-your-browsing-history-middle-n1251612

  421. 3b says:

    30 year I agree with you on that. Not that I would ever really disagree with your take on real estate as it has been for years. And you have never been a cheerleader. Yes I believe proximity to NYC is still priced into north Jersey real estate. Absolute dumps being sold at ridiculous prices, such as a 3bed I bath bungalow in my town that sold at 45ok.

    I of course think it’s a mistake as contrary to what some think NYC is not coming back , at least not to what it was pre pandemic. And even before corporate America was already going WFH/ geographic agnostic route. This I know for a fact in my industry and what I am hearing from others is continuing and growing. It’s been almost a year now, and so it is working in many respects. And the language being used for some sort of return to the office is “when and in what fashion “. If you might only be in the office 2days a week or less, or not at all, what is the point of paying a premium to be close to NYC.

  422. The Great Pumpkin says:

    A city like NYC never dies, it only grows stronger with time just like the S&P 500. Yes, this is a buying opportunity if you are smart. Just like the stock market, it doesn’t always go up, and sometimes the sky seems like it’s falling, those are just buying opportunities in the long term.

  423. 30 year realtor says:

    Not a buying opportunity in NYC real estate. Residential prices are down about 15%. That does not constitute blood in the streets. We are at least 18 to 24 months from the possibility of a new normal. Too much risk at this price level!

  424. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Maybe your industry can’t cut it in NYC anymore. Time for the new to replace them. Out with the old, in with the new.

    You say you are a new yorker. You have lived longer than me. How many times have you heard the same old story about NYC dying… cycles.

  425. The Great Pumpkin says:

    30,

    In the long term, it’s a buying opportunity. Maybe it goes lower, but you are not losing long term buying now. Timing a market is a dangerous game. When it turns, it turns fast in a place like nyc. A lot of those people are never giving up their property. They know what they hold.

  426. Libturd says:

    Juice,

    And electric cars are hardly helping the environment if we continue to build oil and coal burning power plants to charge them. It takes 75KW to charge the average Tesla. For comparison’s sake, the average house uses 30 KW per day.

    So in a way, Musk is absolutely brilliant. He has managed to do with Tesla the same thing most charities do. Only instead of personally enriching himself from skimming off of donors charitable contributions. He has instead skimmed his wealth off of government subsidies. I keep seeing this business model play out all around. Aerofarm’s (growing crops in a warehouse in Newark) CEO made a couple of contributions to Murphy and bang, millions in subsidies to fail in business, but to personally profit handsomely. Same thing with that clean coal consortium which has finally been shut down by Trump (one of his few accomplishments) but fear not. The CEO of that consortium is now in charge of fossil fuels and his boss, the head of the DOE, has been in bed with oil companies for 14 years (Cedrick Richmond).

    Ever wonder why they make electric cars look so different than ICE cars? No, it’s not about wind resistance. It’s pure marketing. The car needs to scream, “Look, I’m saving the world,” as it secretly uses as much dirty energy as it costs to power a household.

  427. ExEssex says:

    11:32 you’ll find that in the ranks of the ‘new’ GOP and their effort to restore greatness to our Country. Don’t worry they are only proud of their own race. /s

  428. Fast Eddie says:

    Why does this seem so cheap? Is it the HOA cost? What am I missing?

    https://www.trulia.com/p/ny/new-york/100-w-57th-st-17-b-new-york-ny-10019–2189261079

  429. joyce says:

    Again with this?

    30 year realtor says:
    January 7, 2021 at 11:32 am
    Be careful who you hang around with.

  430. 30 year realtor says:

    Coop. Probably a huge underlying mortgage.

  431. BRT says:

    So, I’m listening to my son’s 3rd grade teacher suddenly give her political viewpoints on yesterday’s events. It’s insulting that a teacher blatantly tries to exert her views on a bunch of 9 year olds. What’s more funny is that I can tell the parents are behind the screen feeding their kids questions to ask her blatantly pointing out her hypocrisy.

  432. Fast Eddie says:

    Coop. Probably a huge underlying mortgage.

    A hidden cost not listed?

  433. grim says:

    If anyone here has marijuana grow experience and wants to join us in an interesting venture, let me know.

  434. Juice Box says:

    Bitcoin mania continues jumped in value $10,000 dollars in three days, now at $39,000.

  435. grim says:

    Lawyer would be nice too.

  436. 30 year realtor says:

    Hidden cost? Not sure I would call it that. It is certainly part of the maintenance fee and disclosed in the financials of the coop. An underlying mortgage is is always something one must be aware of when looking at coops.

  437. grim says:

    3 big trees (tallest is 85′), $5900, crane job – does that sound about right?

    My old tree guy is no longer in business, new guy was recommended, seems about 50% more expensive than what it cost me 11 years ago. But the wildcard this time is the crane.

  438. 30 year realtor says:

    Grim, I am interested.

  439. joyce says:

    “Users should know when their data is being collected and shared across other apps and websites — and they should have the choice to allow that or not,” Apple said in a statement. “App Tracking Transparency in iOS 14 does not require Facebook to change its approach to tracking users and creating targeted advertising, it simply requires they give users a choice.”

    I have no idea if Apple would benefit somehow from this (other than something like marketing security/brand loyalty/etc.), but it sounds like a good idea to me.

  440. Fast Eddie says:

    3 big trees (tallest is 85′), $5900, crane job – does that sound about right?

    That sounds about right. Of course, get another quote. Text me if you want another guy to call.

  441. grim says:

    Apple is in the right, Facebook is in the wrong.

    Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF) backs Apple – that’s everything anyone needs to know.

    https://developer-tech.com/news/2020/dec/22/eff-calls-facebook-campaign-apple-privacy-changes-laughable/

  442. joyce says:

    Then I might actually click Yes when it asks to upgrade next time.

    grim says:
    January 7, 2021 at 12:14 pm
    Apple is in the right, Facebook is in the wrong.

    Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF) backs Apple – that’s everything anyone needs to know.

    https://developer-tech.com/news/2020/dec/22/eff-calls-facebook-campaign-apple-privacy-changes-laughable/

  443. BRT says:

    grim,

    no experience growing that plant but pretty much every other plant/crop on the planet. I’ve got decent experience in hydroponics/pest management and I have them running in my basement. I’m interested.

  444. Libturd says:

    Grim,

    That’s a pretty good price. Clearing trees for the hydroponic farm? :P

    Seriously, I have some grow experience, but not interested in anything more than sampling.

    BRT,

    There’s nothing worse than the indoctrination that parents and teachers perform. I cringe every time I see a kid at a protest or making some kind of political accusation on youtube. It’s worse than the celebrity affirmations.

    Even in my relatively liberal household, I make it a point to explain the other side and never make dumb accusations, like claiming they hate our country. I don’t even make my kids learn religion. Why would I push my political views on them. I always think kids should be allowed self determination when it comes to beliefs. I know I am in the minority hear with religion, but in my lifetime, all I know is that it’s a hell of a business, a fantastic tax dodge and a great place for you to have your child both misguided and too often touched.

  445. 30 year realtor says:

    Home grow penaly in NJ is the same as if you are running a method lab.

  446. 30 year realtor says:

    Meth lab.

  447. Juice Box says:

    Zuck just banned Trump from FB.

    Facebook on Thursday banned President Donald Trump from using its social network or Instagram “indefinitely, including the last two weeks of his presidency.

    In a post on the site, Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg wrote that Trump’s refusal to condemn his extremist supporters who stormed and occupied the U.S. Capitol building on Wednesday showed that he “intends to use his remaining time in office to undermine the peaceful and lawful transition of power to his elected successor, Joe Biden.”

  448. Juice Box says:

    30 year – Sweeney uses some twisted logic. He said “You don’t want a grow house in your neighborhood” So we are making it legal but we are still attaching a stigma to it, and sending you to jail for up to 20 years if you grow a now legal plant to consume.

  449. ExEssex says:

    Enjoy your new freedoms! The taxman is the only one making money on legal weed in CA.

  450. chicagofinance says:

    Which Bezos, Mackenzie?

    Juice Box says:
    January 7, 2021 at 10:51 am
    Elon Musk now world’s richest man. I wonder if Bezos will send him a gift?

  451. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Truthers, lol. When are any of these people going to come clean on the Russia hoax or election fraud. Those are some doozies.

  452. ExEssex says:

    Follow some of the big growers and retailers and see a real challenge for them due to over supply and limited distribution. Some places won’t allow retailers yet. Taxes are a huge part of the price consumers pay. Study the models of the states that went before you. THc is everything – anything in the 30s is considered too shelf. The future is in edibles, CDB balms and therapeutics. Most people my age and older take it to mitigate pain.

  453. grim says:

    No this would be legit – we have an industrial facility in place.

    The trees are in my back yard, which is not said facility.

    This is all above board stuff.

  454. ExEssex says:

    Too = Top shelf.
    I won’t lie I’ve been a proponent of legal weed for decades.

  455. ExEssex says:

    From I’d love to take a stab at your artwork.

  456. ExEssex says:

    Grim…..I’d do some art for you.

  457. grim says:

    We have a small group of partners in play, the goal is to assemble a team where each partner brings the skillset necessary to launch. This is all bootstraped.

    Would be a grow facility under the new program, operating out of UEZ location.

    Me, I bring the skillset of operating in a highly regulated industry (alcohol manufacture), we have a partner with a facility, we have a partner who is a contractor to do the buildout, etc, etc.

    Pretty risky that we don’t get licensed, so this is the approach, as opposed to dumping a huge amount of money into this, only to run into roadblocks.

  458. grim says:

    In addition, I’m an expert at extraction and processing, distillation, etc. I have enough chemistry background and practical experience to operate processing.

  459. 30 year realtor says:

    Essex,

    THC is a measure that can be used as a comparison but not the be all and end all. Taste, smell and smoothness for flower are exceptionally important factors.

    Having good genetics is essential. Knowing when to pick and other factors related to finishing the grow have a huge impact. Curing properly is essential.

    Growing the marijuana properly isn’t quite as simple as it would appear.

  460. chicagofinance says:

    Dedicated to left & Phoenix:
    https://youtu.be/SsiSlp3ADTw?t=24

  461. 30 year realtor says:

    I have someone who is already operating a legal grow and dispensary in another state. In my opinion having a proven operation will provide a big leg up for licensing. Can’t see the state wanting inexperienced growers.

  462. BRT says:

    I’ve obviously got the chem background, but I’ve dealt with the issues growing indoors. Working on the school’s hydroponic system, you have all kinds of insect pests that must be managed along with potential bacterial issues as well. The chemistry is primarily involved with tweaking the nutrients for your particular plant.

  463. chicagofinance says:

    Those were the Jews for Trump…… according to Fab

    Libturd says:
    January 7, 2021 at 11:02 am
    If there was any silver lining that I saw yesterday. It was that a number of the Trumpees were finally donning masks (and horns).

  464. Libturd says:

    I would be worried about the taxation eating all of the potential margin. Since the product itself is so cheap, the black market will rise again once the taxes get to high. And it will. It’s just too easy to grow decent enough quality weed yourself. The only thing stopping people now is the illegality of it and the dumb intent to distribute laws that come with owning any sizeable amount. Now that weed is demystified and legal, plus with so many more widespread users, the Chia Pet will be replaced with the Ganga Pet.
    You will need to start at very large scale to both make it profitable enough to overcome the taxes and to compete with the big guys. Just my advice. It takes equipment to make booze at home as well as expertise. Free weed is just too easy to grow.

  465. chicagofinance says:

    Interest rates have to normalize. You can’t make any kind of claim with these conditions. Remember, finance is a young man’s game, and you now have Managing Directors who are 40 years old that have never seen anything other than completely manipulated fixed income markets. Risk has been chronically underpriced from 2004 onward. Only the blip from Spring 2007 to March 2009. Otherwise we have been in the wilderness for 16 years less that 21 month window.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 7, 2021 at 11:35 am
    A city like NYC never dies, it only grows stronger with time just like the S&P 500. Yes, this is a buying opportunity if you are smart. Just like the stock market, it doesn’t always go up, and sometimes the sky seems like it’s falling, those are just buying opportunities in the long term.

  466. Libturd says:

    Right. That horned guy had tons of tatts. He is no Hebe.

  467. Libturd says:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/21/legal-marijuana-black-market-227414

    I haven’t read it, but I’m guessing it’s what I am talking about.

  468. 30 year realtor says:

    The quality of most of the weed from the existing NJ medical dispensaries is middle of the road or worse. Most people haven’t a clue about what makes for quality weed. The only reason to have a medical marijuana card was to avoid getting busted. Buy a minimal amount from the dispensary and keep your stash in their packaging when outside of your home.

  469. 3b says:

    Chgo: Oh for the days when the Fed did inter meeting interest rate moves. Or when the Fed did not telegraph their moves in the days leading up to the meeting. Dead silence on the trading floor a minute or two before the 2:00 announcement. And then madness!! Destroyed if you were on the wrong side of the move.

  470. ExEssex says:

    1:10 completely understand. It’s a starting point.
    Over the past 3 years I’ve undertaken a personal research
    Project and can safely say….I dig your vibe man.

  471. BRT says:

    Bitcoin crossing $40k. I now own $40 in bitcoin.

  472. chicagofinance says:

    No EZ-Pass transactions since 10/24……. I’m totally stunned, but yeah…. that is right…

  473. D-FENS says:

    Mayor of Washington DC says DC statehood to be on the president’s desk within the first 100 days.

  474. Bystander says:

    Far from expert Grim but I can tell you that I would have a firm handle on seeds & strains and understand terminology/marketing patterns before going too deep into commitment. My understanding is that seed market is everything as a handful control it. Read through the menu on one of the best in Mass. It is like a restaurant and changes often. Edibles, drinks and oils are definitely competitive right now since Colorado opened the door years back. Massive amount of products ready for distribution as other states legalize. It will be a niche business and a lucrative one if they limit market. Over time, edibles will probably be regulated closely as too easy for people to mistake them. Lawsuits for toddlers eating them etc..there is a lot colorful, cartoony marketing right now.

    https://massaltcare.com/

  475. grim says:

    Can’t see the state wanting inexperienced growers.

    Hence the ask.

    They make it clear that grow experience is part of the scoring process.

  476. Phoenix says:

    You want good weed you need to to speak with Mags Bennett. And skip the apple pie.

  477. Phoenix says:

    Won’t be long before Monsanto takes over the weed seed market.

  478. 30 year realtor says:

    Straight out of the gate the business in NJ will be all about maximum yielding, short flowering strains. Eventually supply will out pace demand. At that point specialty strains will be where the money is. These strains have longer flowering times and lower yields and will command higher prices.

  479. Bystander says:

    Lib,

    There is a max price here but it is very similar to the craft beer market. I have been around enough older hippies and young stoners to know that there is status in the brand. Used to be Humboldt County Kush was gold standard. Now, people are interested in cross-strains with cool names and flavors. I just never been that kind of smoker but the market is there.

  480. D-FENS says:

    I imagine with the incoming federal legislature and administration it might be legal federally soon. Perhaps lot’s of other neighboring states will be growing/consuming soon too.

  481. Libturd says:

    Can’t sell over state lines in NJ.

  482. crushednjmillenial says:

    Grim on mj . . .

    If I am not mistaken, until recently, you were expecting the NJ government to drag their feet on implementing the rules necessary for a true legal recreational market. I haven’t followed the news on this too closely, but . . . has something changed that made you change your projection on legal weed in NJ?

    Also, for those interested in owning a stake in a mj business, isn’t it still the case that the federal government can charge you with federal drug crimes, convict you and take your legitimate assets? This concern kept me away from investing in a retail mj project.

    Final point . . . if you speak with the owners/passive investors of out-of-state mj retail storefronts, I’ve personally heard good things.

  483. FastEddie StillATraitor says:

    Grim,

    Big issue is Cash Management. As in a lot of bank don’t want to handle your finances and you will have to collect/pay/settle in cash and the security and logistics of that.

  484. 3b says:

    DC should not be a state period. The founding fathers specifically set it up that way. Keep a small area around the White House and Capitol, and give the rest back to Maryland.

  485. 30 year realtor says:

    DC has a larger population than Montana, South Dakota and North Dakota combined. Why shouldn’t DC residents be entitled to an appropriate voice in congress, the senate and electoral college?

    As to your founding fathers argument, what did they intend for North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming?

  486. Libturd says:

    That works for me. Of course, we all know it’s politics and the ability to pick up a seat or two.

  487. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    How do you feel about combining Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota and South Dakota into a single state? They have a combined 8 senators and 4 congressmen for about the same population as DC? A bit over represented?

  488. joyce says:

    I believe converting DC into a State would require an amendment to the constitution.

  489. Leftwing stillAynRandConstipatedTraitor says:

    Traitors may hate. But it was a coup attempt by the orange douche bag and his helpers

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1?r=US&IR=T

  490. D-FENS says:

    Intelligence report on Chinese efforts to interfere in the US election delivered hours after Electoral College Certification

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-analysts-downplayed-election-interference-trump-inspector

    “The intelligence community’s classified assessment on foreign influence in the 2020 election, which will not focus on claims of mail-in fraud or unfounded allegations of voting machines flipping millions of votes, was also submitted to Congress on Thursday.

    Expected in December, the assessment was delayed as senior intelligence officials clashed over the role played by China, and as director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe sought to include more viewpoints in the final analysis.”

  491. D-FENS says:

    Watch the video of what (some) cops were doing during the riot in DC. Doesn’t look like they were defending it in this video.

    https://twitter.com/bumbera_steven/status/1347270969988173825?s=21

  492. Grim says:

    There was another video of cops taking down the barriers and letting people in.

  493. leftwing says:

    Eddie, why even bother? They are not even attempting to debate you, just calling you names and forcing their opinion as the only correct way….

    Aside from calling you rac1st, their positions would be laughable if not so vacuous…

    “Media and public reaction to Trump’s behavior is based on how shocking and out of the ordinary it has been. [my view] Not sure about what it is about your personal landscape that prevents you from seeing the obvious [your view doesn’t matter]. ”

    “As for the BLM protests, people were made for DEATHS within their communities at the hands of police [my issue]. This non sense [my view] that happened yesterday was because of losing in an election [your issue]. Those are wildly different causes [I say my issues and views are more important than yours].”

    Liberals are all for freedom of thought, so long as you only think the way they want you to.

  494. Grim says:

    The irony of Mitch McConnell’s wife resigning over Trump.

  495. ExEssex says:

    She was a short timer anyway. Just because she would not want to vote for/against article 25 against the “ Patriot” .

  496. leftwing says:

    “What part of this are you proud of?”

    30, I literally spelled it out with high specificity.

    You can’t comprehend because you insist on running to your safe space where only your opinion matters.

  497. leftwing says:

    “How do you equate a political party making unfair rules….”

    The rules weren’t unfair, they selection process is rigged to enable the DNC to appoint who they want over the will of the voters. They literally try and succeed overturning the popular vote.

    “…with a mob forcibly entering the Capitol?”

    To protest what they in part believe was an attempt to overturn the vote which failed.

    Both have the same goals, one is institutionalized and succeeds and one isn’t.

  498. ExEssex says:

    Leftwing fancies himself an iconoclast.

  499. 3b says:

    3o Year On the face of it I would have no problem combining those states. In
    My opinion we have too many states, but that’s a different topic.

    DC is a different matter as it was established specifically so that the Federal Government would not be in a state and the problems that might cause. And to avoid that in their wisdom they established Washington D.C. and it should remain that way.

  500. 3b says:

    30year And I offered a solution return most of DC to Maryland. The Federal government returned most of what they originally took from VA before the civil war I believe.

  501. chicagofinance says:

    Here is a video of the end of Trump’s speech from the crowd:
    https://youtu.be/IuRakfjTAag?t=66

  502. crushednjmillenial says:

    DC has a population of around 700k people.

    Only Vermont and Wyoming have smaller populations than DC, among the states, but there are 6 states with less than 1 million people.

  503. Grim says:

    NJ now sitting on more than 400k doses

  504. crushednjmillenial says:

    Gasoline on the fire . . .

    Pelosi and Schumer calling for 25th Amendment and/or impeachment are exacerbating political division.

    I caught Biden’s speech today at lunch and apparently his team is going with “this is all Trump’s fault” also.

    They learned nothing from yesterday.

  505. ExEssex says:

    6:29 lynyrd Skynyrd was a gym teacher.

    https://youtu.be/swOm4FB2b8M

  506. 3b says:

    Crushed: True. But D.C. was set up as a different entity precisely because the founding fathers knew having the capital of the country in one state vs another would be problematic, and they established it geographically where north meets south. It was established as a Federal district not a state, with land provided by both Maryland and Virginia. Most if not all of Virginia’s territory was returned. I understand times have changed but the idea of not having the National capital in a state remains a sound one.

  507. Juice Box says:

    Pence won’t do it, expect a 2nd vote to impeach.

  508. ExEssex says:

    Public Hanging should be Trump’s penalty when found guilty.
    The right will martyr him, his children avenge him.
    He will be known forever more as the Orange Menace.

  509. ExEssex says:

    VC funds decide Jarrod is a bad bet.

  510. ExEssex says:

    US Capitol police chief resigns

    A spokeswoman for the United States Capitol Police has confirmed to ABC News that Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund is resigning, effective Jan. 16.

    The resignation comes after rioters seized the Capitol building on Wednesday and following House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calling for him to step down due to the botched response.

    Sund does not mention the Capitol riot in his three-sentence resignation letter. “It has been a pleasure and true honor to serve the United States Capitol Police Board and the Congressional community alongside and the women and men of the United States Capitol Police,” he wrote.

  511. joyce says:

    Ex-NYPD sergeant lied about working ‘hundreds of hours’ in 9/11 recovery, feds say

    https://www.nj.com/monmouth/2021/01/ex-nypd-sergeant-lied-about-working-hundreds-of-hours-in-911-recovery-feds-say.html

    The 55-year-old former NYPD sergeant in 2010 claimed during a screening interview for the World Trade Center Health Program that she worked for “hundreds of hours” at the Fresh Kills Landfill in Staten Island from Sept. 2001 to June 2002, according to a complaint filed in the case.

    In 2014, Spinosa applied for funds from the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund falsely claiming she was at the landfill for two hours a day for 62 straight days, according to authorities. To support the alleged scam, investigators said she falsified a signed affidavit purportedly from one of her police supervisors.

    Despite her claims to the health and victim compensation programs, the sergeant “spent little to no time at the landfill,” authorities said. During the time frame, she was pregnant and doing limited work outside of her police unit’s office, or out of work entirely on parental leave.

  512. 3b says:

    Joyce: Shameful. How does she live with herself. Her pension should be revoked.

  513. grim says:

    I understand times have changed but the idea of not having the National capital in a state remains a sound one.

    Agree, give the unnecessary land back to the states.

  514. leftwing says:

    “Leftwing fancies himself an iconoclast.”

    Nope, it just matters to me.

    I will get a still of the CNN shot down Capitol Street from yesterday with all the protestors in the plaza, on the stairs, and on the balconies with flags. Powerful shot.

    I have other photos hanging in my office…one of a fantastic makeshift memorial on Wensceslas Square where a young Czech self immolated in protest, and another from a street corner that was near Prague Spring. Mounted on a 90 degree building corner the old sign reads Sovietske Namesti is crossed through in black paint and cut diagonally; directly opposite newly mounted is an identical sign Amerikanische Namesti…holes from rounds still visible in the stone. fantastic photo, taken taken straight on to the apex.

    Yesterday’s photo will also hang next to an item I believe I’ve mentioned before, an original copy with hand annotations from one of the ships involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident delineating four pages of attacks, torpedoes, and evasive maneuvers. Two final lines, partly handwritten by the OOD, state “contacts doubtful, freak weather and overactive sonarmen may be to blame”.

    Johnson went to war over that, uhm, mistake.

    Yesterday was powerful, not shameful.

    The Establishment? Must shame and isolate, lest the rest of the disaffected populations start to ponder whether real action may actually yield real results…..

    Seriously, on that last point…when was the last time 100% of these cretins agreed on anything? That’s not giving you even a little funny feeling in your gut?

  515. leftwing says:

    Or is the jingoistic patriotic blather from those with the most vested interests having its intended effect?

  516. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Agree, breaking the law must be punished.

    3b says:
    January 7, 2021 at 7:27 pm
    Joyce: Shameful. How does she live with herself. Her pension should be revoked.

  517. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Absolutely.

    The game has changed though, we might have to acknowledge that. How long does it go on for? I don’t know. I know 2030’s, population most likely peaks in the world. That’s when it prob all goes “poof.” Like Magic.

    Then again, the fed might finally be in control due to tech. Tech allows them to move around capital, like no time before. Uncharted waters.

    My sincere advice is for everyone to invest hard these next 10 years. We are in the right place at the right time in terms of investment opportunities that replace century old industry/tech. Opportunities like this don’t come around too often.

    chicagofinance says:
    January 7, 2021 at 1:27 pm
    Interest rates have to normalize. You can’t make any kind of claim with these conditions. Remember, finance is a young man’s game, and you now have Managing Directors who are 40 years old that have never seen anything other than completely manipulated fixed income markets. Risk has been chronically underpriced from 2004 onward. Only the blip from Spring 2007 to March 2009. Otherwise we have been in the wilderness for 16 years less that 21 month window.

  518. D-FENS says:

    Every time I watch the video of the woman being shot in that video, I can’t understand why that guy shit while there were cops with AR’s on the other side of the door with her.

    Grim says:
    January 7, 2021 at 5:53 pm
    There was another video of cops taking down the barriers and letting people in.

  519. leftwing says:

    chi, thanks on that link lol……

    This one always gets me….if you asked me to picture Phoenix’s ex- I’d imagine her. Right at the ‘boom’ mark lol.

  520. grim says:

    The Establishment? Must shame and isolate, lest the rest of the disaffected populations start to ponder whether real action may actually yield real results…..

    Frankly, I think it’s healthy that our elected government have a fear of it’s citizens. Doesn’t that serve to keep them in check? Providing an army of security to shield them from the very people that elected them feels like a step in the wrong direction. I’ve said this before, and I firmly believe this to be the reason behind the 2nd amendment, that is, to defend the country from it’s government. No surprise that dictators don’t walk among the people they oppress.

  521. grim says:

    Stay classy New Jersey

    You’ve never been to Bayonne?

  522. grim says:

    I caught Biden’s speech today at lunch and apparently his team is going with “this is all Trump’s fault” also.

    Is Trump the symptom or the cause? Trump is product of the zeitgeist.

  523. No One says:

    I wonder how many people Cuomo’s dumb vaccine rules killed today? $1m fine for vaccinations not following his rules, $100k fine for letting the vaccine expire. What kind of fool would sign up for such a risky business?
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/noah-rothman/the-vaccination-plan-isnt-working/

  524. AP says:

    Nah, dressing up the current situation as some kind of organic, righteous indignation will not fly. All anyone has to do is take a quick dip into the forums and publications behind this mess, and you’ll see the tenor of the “dialogue”.

    I feel bad for some of these folks. They are being used as cannon fodder by unscrupulous leaders.

    Lack of information, media echo chambers, so many folks are being completely misled, to their own detriment. If anyone thinks the government is the only, or even the primary cause for the troubles facing the world is just mistaken. The problems are much deeper and more pervasive than that.

    “Don’t follow leaders, watch the parking meters”

  525. No One says:

    Pumpkin,
    Your market advice sounds a lot like the amateur (and pro) advice I heard a lot of in 1999. Good luck with your Ark investments. They remind me of Janus from that era. And some other “visionary” investors of that era now long forgotten. If you are saying this, there are millions of others thinking the same thing.

  526. 3b says:

    Grim The second amendment was established so that in the event the government became tyrannical the citizens could over throw the government by force of arms. The British did not like their colonists to have arms.

  527. Fabius Maximus says:

    “I will get a still of the CNN shot down Capitol Street from yesterday with all the protestors in the plaza, on the stairs, and on the balconies with flags. Powerful shot.”

    Stick this one on the wall beside it.
    https://tinyurl.com/y5f9hczo

  528. Fabius Maximus says:

    Donnie just released a video, it looks like he had to read the script the lawyers gave him. He throws the MAGA heads under the bus. Kudos to whoever had to edit that video, it has more cuts than Dre.

    We have one dead Capital LEO to add to the toll. There needs to be a full investigation as to what happened with the Police. A resigning chief is not sufficient.

    On a positive note, lots of Crowd Sourcing identification from Social Media posts. Lots of people are going to get a nice visit from the Feds. https://twitter.com/MrsKhandiCoated/status/1347260573252280326

  529. The Great Pumpkin says:

    No one,

    I’m not overthinking this. I think we are on the verge of major change. I’m putting my money on innovation. It’s a long term bet on big time innovation over the next 10 years. Like I said earlier, I don’t care what the price is, just dollar cost avg and bet that in 10 years it will be worth more than today. I’m sticking to my gut.

    And yes, the avg investor is becoming much much smarter. Millennials are the most highly educated generation in history.

  530. Fabius Maximus says:

    Jenny is this hours winner. She has up to 10 years free food and board coming her way.

    https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1347334743323394048

  531. AP says:

    Fab, that’s kinda what I’m talking about. When you look at these characters, you have to think about the immense sadness and emptiness in their lives.

    This woman is probably a decent person at heart, a mother who loves her children, a neighbor, etc. These folks have been maliciously radicalized for profit, or worse, for the lulz.

  532. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Pretty crazy.

    “About 8 years ago Chinese researchers were moving along trying to harness energy through lightning strikes. I’ve forgotten the name of the location, but this was through firsthand discussion I had with a fellow robotics/engineering instructor from China who also sketched a schematic. Specifically, they were 1) using a lake as a heat sink to dissipate most of the heat energy given off immediately, and 2) simultaneously attempting to quick charge an absolutely massive battery storage system coupled with a 10-15MW test grid. The transmission cables were significantly larger diameter than anything I’ve ever seen. Overall, the strategy being aimed for was to provide rural, small community-sized energy for up to days at a time in a region known for high lightning activity part of the year. Basically turn off the coal power plants whenever there was surplus energy supplied by a lightning strike nearby.”

  533. 3b says:

    Fab: Kind of sad on your part with your love, peace mantra . Will you show the same glee if and when any of the rioters/protesters from the summer serve any serious jail time?

  534. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “If we focus on the drivers behind this performance, the length of the holding periods is an immensely important factor. You see, several of the top holdings of ARK’s funds have gone nowhere for years before delivering mind-blowing returns in a matter of months. The goal here is not to time the market but to capitalize on the technology adoption curves of innovation, also known as the S-curve.”

  535. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Dollar cost avg into Ark over next 10 years. I really don’t see how you lose.

  536. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b

    So the ones in here celebrating yesterdays Capitol riots as true patriots exercising their blah blah blah get a pass, but I am the bad one here to be happy that these criminals will be going to the big house.

    You are “Whatabouting” this into BLM and bringing it all back to Bill and his BJ, but I am the one with the “Whatabout” problem.

  537. Fabius Maximus says:

    AP

    The problem is, if she has a different skin color and is over in Lafayette SQ, choking on tear gas, the sympathy and empathy seems to evaporate.

  538. AP says:

    Fab: This is America, Childish Gambino (2018)

    https://youtu.be/VYOjWnS4cMY

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