C19 Open Discussion Week 45b

From the Star Ledger:

N.J. unemployment exceeds 1.9 million filings since March. $300 payments hit bank accounts next week. 

More than 1.9 million unemployment claims have filed since the start of the coronavirus pandemic in mid-March, and new claims are starting to climb again, the Department of Labor announced Thursday.

Nearly 21,000 new claims were filed for the week ending Jan. 2, an increase of 2.6% from the previous week’s 20,460 filings, the department said. Claims have been spiking since November, largely due to the holiday season and stormy weather, and have risen for five weeks straight, according to the Labor Department.

Nearly $20.7 billion have been distributed in benefits since mid-March, when the Department of Labor received a huge flood of unemployment claims as businesses were forced to close in response to the first wave of the coronavirus pandemic. The average claimant has received more than $14,000 in benefits.

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378 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 45b

  1. Fabius Maximus says:

    Friskies

  2. grim says:

    HHS Vax allocation set to change in two weeks, more vax will be sent to states who are distributing at a faster pace. Laggards will see lower allocations to reduce stockpiling.

    NJ continues to be below the US average.

  3. Fabius Maximus says:

    Jackie Speier @RepSpeier
    New procedures in the House require us to go through a magnetometer before entering the floor. All because a new Republican member wants to carry heat onto the floor. Well, no surprise—5 Republican law and order members set off the magnetometer and then refused to be wanded.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebbHL-nFF8

  4. AP says:

    Order of business:

    1. Impeach, remove, prosecute
    2. Stop the supremacists and n@z1s
    3. More stimulus, for poor, middle class and small and medium businesses
    4. Vaccines for anyone who wants it, first come first served
    5. Sane gun laws
    6. Medicare for all
    7. State and community college vouchers for low income families
    8. Reduce MIC spending
    9. Balance the budget
    10. Police reform, reduce militarization, civil forfeitures and brutality

  5. AP says:

    Bump the “green new deal” btw. Let the private sector deal with that w/o pork, but enforce existing environmental laws strictly.

  6. Hold my beer says:

    Fabius

    Rep Clyburn said congressional aides claimed to have seen rpeople being let in through the capitols side doors during the riot. He also said the rioters skipped his marked office and went to his unmarked office he normally uses

    Rep Sherell claims members of Congress gave reconnaissance tours of the capitol the day before the capitol.

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/nj-rep-says-lawmakers-held-reconnaissance-tours-before-capitol-riot/

    Ali, claims 3 congressmen helped him plan the rally that preceded the riot.

    Perhaps Congress has a reason to be worried about some of its members?

  7. Fabius Maximus says:

    We need a 9/11 commission level investigaion into this to find out who knew what thier actions were.

    Cruz Office’s Contact Info Written In Note Found In Indicted Pro-Trump Rioter’s Truck
    https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1349134626321797133

  8. Juice Box says:

    Fab – They have been packing heat in Congress forever, since this country was formed. You never know when the British are coming or the South might rise again. It’s not even a new issue, the Federal law to regulate firearms on Capitol Hill dates to October 1967 and became law months after race riots tore through scores of U.S. cities. They were scared of the Black Panthers etc, marching on the Capitol with guns.

    There is a carve out for the Congress Critter, the Capitol Police Board to make exceptions for Congressmen and have since that law was enacted.

    When the insurrection occurred last week several congressmen went to their offices and locked and loaded. After all the walls were breached, and according to the reports the insurrectionists were out for blood, so why cannot a congressman defend themselves?

  9. Juice Box says:

    It’s pretty simple round up terrorists, the viking, the zip tie guy and his mom, and the rest of their merry band and send them to Gitmo for some enhanced “terror”gation.

    I am pretty sure after a couple of gulps of water during the enhanced “terror”gation, they will squeal on whomever organized the rally.

    Also toss in the other conspirators, Zuck and Jack, those two run platforms that allowed the modern day propaganda authors like Goebbels to flourish.

  10. Very Stable Genius says:

    @BillyBaldwin

    “There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution.
    I will vote to impeach the President.”

    – Liz Cheney (R-WY)

  11. Juice Box says:

    “embracing supervision” at an undisclosed location.

    That would be a nice way to say they have picked up Zuck and Jack.

  12. D-FENS says:

    The GOP establishment blame Trump for losing the Senate. (In my opinion they are correct). Impeachment is nothing more than payback.

  13. Juice Box says:

    The vote last night calling on Vice President Michael R. Pence to invoke the 25th went along party lines with one Republican Cheney who voted for. It’s no surprise the daughter of a sith lord would.

    DEMOCRATIC YEAS 222
    REPUBLICAN YEAS 1 NO 205 No Vote 5
    INDEPENDENT
    TOTALS 223 205 5

    https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2021/roll014.xml

  14. 30 year realtor says:

    Any of you who still stand with Trump, has the difference between riots provoked by the death of George Floyd and the attack on the U S Capitol become any clearer? If you still stand with Trump, please explain why you shouldn’t be viewed as a traitor.

  15. crushednjmillenial says:

    Gov Murphy on CNBC this morning . . .

    Gov. Murphy said he will open up vaccine eligibility to all 65+ either today or tomorrow or very soon. Note that Cuomo already did so in ny.

    The anchors asked him about NJ having doses on ice, but he dodged the question. The anchors inexplicalby did not simply put up the graphic at the vaccine tracker below and ask the obvious question:

    “Why has NJ only administered 35.7% of its received vaccine doses, while NY has 41%, CT 60.4% and ND 79.9%?”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

  16. crushednjmillenial says:

    Friday, January 15, 2021 will be one month since NJ administered its first dose (December 15). Only 233,555 doses have been administered in that timeframe. Over 650,000 doses have been received.

  17. D-FENS says:

    Which part of his speech provoked the riot?

    Can you perhaps post the part where he advocates for violence? I can tell you there are multiple audio/video clips of elected Democrats directly inciting and encouraging it.

    30 year realtor says:
    January 13, 2021 at 8:24 am
    Any of you who still stand with Trump, has the difference between riots provoked by the death of George Floyd and the attack on the U S Capitol become any clearer? If you still stand with Trump, please explain why you shouldn’t be viewed as a traitor.

  18. Fabius Maximus says:

    Who was complaining about the cost of the NG going to DC?

    https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/status/1349352529868578816

  19. 30 year realtor says:

    D-fens,

    Please point out in my comment where I specifically lay blame on Trump’s speech of 1/6.

  20. Juice Box says:

    Given about a third of the vaccine doses the federal government has distributed to the states have actually been administered into arms, we can now say that the State and County governments are completely overwhelmed and incompetent, and should be removed from the distribution chain.

    Start shipping the vaccine directly to all pharmacies and primary care physicians that are willing to administer it, just like any other vaccine.

    For the Pfizer vaccine their thermal shippers, in which doses will arrive can be used as temporary storage units by refilling with dry ice every five days for up to 30 days of storage. This can be left to the counties and hospitals to manage. The Pfizer vaccine can be stored for five days at refrigerated 2-8°C conditions once defrosted. It would not be a stretch to ship it to the counties and then have them break it down into smaller shipments to distribute more locally. This is what Israel did with the Pfizer vaccine and it’s now proven way to get the Pfizer vaccine out to people quicker. Just as an FYI Pfizer already has 50 million shots produced last year still remain in deep-freeze storage because they are not ready to receive the vaccine.

    Lonza is producing the Moderna vaccine in the U.S. at its New Hampshire facility and is using McKesson to package and ship etc. They are ramping up to produce millions of doses a day. The Moderna vaccine is not an issue, it is stored with regular refrigeration, and can be shipped immediately to pharmacies and primary care physicians directly.

    GET IT DONE!

  21. FatsoEddieStill aConstipatedTraitor says:

    If you all want to go into a rabbit hole.

    Trump met alone with the Russian foreign minister and chief spy in the Oval Office without another US Govt employee insight. What do you think they talked about it.

    Simply. They said if he wanted to become President for Life they would back him.

    What does that means. Well, it means if there is open conflict or civil war in the USA, it would allow Russia and China as permanent members of the security council to come in to the USA under the UN’s blue helmet peacekeeping operations.

    That is the plan to take this country down.

  22. Juice Box says:

    Fab – That guard duty is the night shift, they will have 10,000 troops there by this weekend. They all won’t be sleeping in the Capitol.

    I feel sorry for the small businesses that make a living off tourism in DC. They are run by the locals that live there etc. They may need a special bailout too, weeks without customers will put them out of business for sure.

  23. Libturd says:

    D,

    As the attack occurred, he just sat there and watched it. It was not until Sleepy Joe forced him to call his crew away would this have stopped.

    It’s like I said the other day. If you don’t condemn it, then you condone it. The display of partisan votes for and against the impeachment is not only as cowardly as the members of his cabinet resigning ahead of the invoking of the 25th, but also sets the precedent that such behavior is acceptable in the future.

    The Republicans are going to pay dearly for these continued actions. Nothing in our lifetime comes even close to the amount of political damage this has done to either major party. To think that the Republican Party plans to pick up the baton of populism where Trump had it blown out of his hands is equally as disgusting and foolish.

    Looking at this with absolutely no bias whatsoever, the Republican Party would be wise to separate itself from Trumpism. Biden won this election by a landslide and this was a much greater protest vote than Trump’s win in 2016. Mistakingly continuing down this path is political suicide. It was a HUGE failure, as expected.

  24. No One says:

    Juice,
    Private vs public sector competence in a nutshell, yet people never learn the lesson and continue clamoring for more “free” state run stuff.
    If this is such an emergency, why didn’t states just pay up for speed in distribution? Because they mostly cared about taking care of their own and focusing on “social justice”.

  25. Juice Box says:

    AP re; Oder of business. # 9 “Balance the budget”

    The good news is you won’t be alive to see that, not in your natural lifetime. Be glad you won’t, it would not be pretty putting mom and dad out onto an ice flow, or having to actually put a pillow over them as they sleep. Death Panels and Senilicide will be a growing trend.

    The government has declining revenues and exponential growth of unfunded liabilities. None of which can be made up with higher taxes or cutting spending. There is no abundance that can be taxed enough to pay for it.

    Austerity Joe is the right man for the job, he has been talking for decades about cutting Social Security and Medicaid.

    The plan is a sneaky one two. Gradually raising the full retirement age, as what has already happened and will continue until you age out of the system. You die before you can ever collect more than you put in. Keep the current voters happy yes, the future generations get the ice flow or the pillow treatment.

  26. ExEssex says:

    Juice Box another very “unbalanced” take on modern life. Thanks.

  27. ExEssex says:

    I retired early. You can retire any time you like! You just get less $$.

  28. 3b says:

    Chinese and Russian troops in blue UN helmets occupying the USA?? Looks like we have some left wing lunatics as well!!

  29. Crushednjmillenial says:

    Libturd at 9:37 . . .

    You wrote that Biden won by a landslide. If 45,000 votes were changed in Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia, then Trump would have won. By this measure, 2020 was closer than 2016.

    Biden won a squeaker. He barely, barely won. 20k margin in WI. 11k in GA. 11k in AZ. Those states go the other way and it would be a second term for Trump.

    If we re-ran the election today, after the Capitol Riot, then Biden probably would win in a landslide but there is no truth in the notion that Biden won a landslide.

  30. Juice Box says:

    3b – Blue UN helmets not unheard of in many places around the world in conflict zones.
    It would be bizarre alternate reality that Alice in Wonderland could only conjure, to see see UN Peacekeepers on our soil, only because we would be the ones actually paying the UN to patrol our streets to keep the peace never mind the trillions we spend today for our own military and police.

  31. D-FENS says:

    The violence was planned. They were attacking the Capitol before Trump even finished his speech.

    I do not condone it an any way. I condemn it…as most people do…and support prosecuting participants to the fullest extent.

    I can do this, and also condemn the Antifa/BLM riots…while not saying they were for a “better purpose”. To do otherwise, in my opinion is hypocritical.

  32. D-FENS says:

    I really can’t bring myself to care about impeachment in any way. It appears completely vindictive and pointless.

  33. Juice Box says:

    Essex – Unbalanced? So there is no truth to them raising the retirement age because we can no longer pay for people to retire at 50 years old in Europe or age 65 in the USA?

    The full retirement age (FRA) for Social Security has already increased from 65 to to 67. Average lifespan since those changes were enacted in 1983 has increased from Age 74 to Age 78 in the USA thanks to our Medicine breakthroughs like the statin drug you take.

    The underlying assumptions used have to be revisited, it’s only path forward, do not cut benefits for current retirees only the next generation gets to retire at 70+ yrs old. You think taxing the rich can raise additional trillions annually?

  34. AP says:

    Juice @9:45am. “unfunded mandates”

    While I don’t claim to be a huge expert in this area (I try to stay on my lane, most times) but my understanding is that if we reduce healthcare costs (eliminate bloated “administrative” layer, gouging and fraud) and reduce MIC spending, it is possible without having granny eating cat-food.

    I believe it was mostly done in recent memory.

  35. D-FENS says:

    I guess people heard Trump’s speech on 1/6 and instantaneously built pipe bombs and placed them at the DNC/RNC HQ’s.

  36. Phoenix says:

    “If you don’t condemn it, then you condone it.”

    https://youtu.be/wZQ5UMbZjT8?t=38

  37. D-FENS says:

    If you believe that Trump’s 1/6 speech incited the riot…and that it was spontaneous…then you would have to believe that Mikie Sherrill is also lying

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/nj-rep-says-lawmakers-held-reconnaissance-tours-before-capitol-riot/

  38. 3b says:

    Juice: No employee wants 70 year olds shuffling around, they don’t even want 50 somethings. Plus with AI, a lot of jobs across all industries will be eliminated.

  39. Phoenix says:

    “I retired early. You can retire any time you like! You just get less $$.”

    Sure, if you marry rich. Hell, at that point you can retire right after the nuptial.

  40. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s not Trump the left1sts are going after… it’s you. Trump just got in the way and tried to disrupt the slow conf1scation and control over the masses. Ten years ago, if I said, “All Lives Matter,” it would be a welcomed and agreed upon phrase. Say it today and it will ign1te ang3r. That’s just one of an endless number of examples.

  41. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    In my industry we have plenty of 70+ employees.

    It takes years to get where they are, and many of them are still very capable and the experience they bring is enormous. Not only that many are confident so they don’t bring the raging unnecessary anxiety with them that comes with those unsure of themselves.

    The right older ones are great to work with, less needy, and really make for a pleasant work environment. Of course, some do need to be put out to pasture..

  42. Phoenix says:

    While I don’t claim to be a huge expert in this area (I try to stay on my lane, most times) but my understanding is that if we reduce military costs (eliminate bloated “administrative” layer, gouging and fraud) and reduce overall spending, it is possible without having granny eating cat-food.

  43. 30 year realtor says:

    D-fens,

    For 4 years people have been talking about Trump being a danger. You made fun of these people. You said they suffered from TDS. They were right. You are wrong.

  44. Libturd says:

    Trump’s lies about election fraud (the steal) are what incited that riot. Don’t kid yourselves. How anyone can deny this is indefensible. (See what I did there)

    According to today’s Republican party, there appears to be NOTHING that is immoral or illegal. This is where the long-term damage is going to roost. In the heat of the endless lies, it makes some sense to those who want it too. Once this in the rear mirror, the uncommitted and the former non-party loyalists but 2016 protest voters are going to more permanently move to the other side.

    I give Mitch credit. He realizes this and is acting accordingly, though it’s probably too late. The rest have stubbornly decided to lock themselves into years of gender related nonsense because they are not willing to eat the the giant plate of crow that Trump just served them. I thought it was the Blue team that had a problem admitting their sh1t don’t stink. They really are ALL the same.

  45. Phoenix says:

    The only thing that has even attempted to dismantle the unfair practice known as “grandfathering” has been Covid.

    Also, life expectancy is not something that will keep going up forever necessarily. Takes years of data for the trend reversal to be noticed. For all we know life expectancy can be dropping right this minute.

  46. Fast Eddie says:

    unmod please

  47. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s not Trump the s0c1alists are after… it’s you. Trump just got in the way.

  48. Hold my beer says:

    The plot thickens

    The panic buttons were removed from the office of one of the squad members before the riot

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/panic-buttons-were-inexplicably-torn-145712135.html

  49. Hold my beer says:

    Seems many Americans didn’t follow these words of wisdom

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoPq5AOCOA

  50. Fabius Maximus says:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-protests-proud-boys/proud-boys-leader-wasnt-invited-to-white-house-took-public-tour-spokesman-idUSKBN28M0V2

    He got a “last minute” invite to a tour that you can only get your CongressCritter to book for you 3 weeks in advance. This is all going to come out at some point.

  51. D-FENS says:

    I never made fun of anyone or mentioned TDS

    30 year realtor says:
    January 13, 2021 at 10:40 am
    D-fens,

    For 4 years people have been talking about Trump being a danger. You made fun of these people. You said they suffered from TDS. They were right. You are wrong.

  52. Libturd says:

    And with Covid, I’m surprised they are doing them at all. Plus Mikey isn’t nearly as much a partisan hack as most of them are. You won’t catch her lying. Though she will take campaign money for endorsements like the rest of the corrupt lot.

  53. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    You do realize you cannot use those adjectives any more. Biden made all 3 illegal.

  54. D-FENS says:

    True or not they will use it as an argument to expel Republican members of congress and consolidate power.

    Libturd says:
    January 13, 2021 at 11:04 am
    And with Covid, I’m surprised they are doing them at all. Plus Mikey isn’t nearly as much a partisan hack as most of them are. You won’t catch her lying. Though she will take campaign money for endorsements like the rest of the corrupt lot.

  55. Phoenix says:

    Anyone retiring to another state should have to pay their portion of the deficit they left behind in the state they lived in previously.

    Anyone retiring to another country should have to pay their portion of the deficit they left behind in the country they lived in previously.

    Pay your debts.

  56. Libturd says:

    The Dow is at 31,000. I thought it was going to collapse under Biden. :P

    And you can’t choose to handpick Republican states to deny the landslide designation. In the popular vote (you know, where they count the votes of all American Citizens) he was destroyed. 7 Million. The only larger one was Obama’s first term during the height of the Great Recession.

    But let the lying and deception continue.

  57. Phoenix says:

    These Repubs made a big mistake by supporting those who kill the innocent, then doubling down by attacking the building where the Gods they are supposed to worship enjoy themselves as they feast on steak and tax dollars.

  58. 30 year realtor says:

    On the landslide thing, about as much of a landslide as 2016. Didn’t hear you complain when Trump said it was a landslide.

  59. Libturd says:

    D of course that’s true. But no one wants to see the Republican Party survive more than I do as I prefer a check to exist to keep any single party from doing REALLY STUPID things. It’s really much better when this occurs.

  60. Phoenix says:

    Lib,
    None of that matters from Costa Rica.

  61. Libturd says:

    True,

    But until I get citizenship, I plan to have a small place in Henderson NV.

  62. AP says:

    Lib, do you have a take on Freeport, Grand Bahamas? Before covid it was awesome, but not sure how well they’ll recover. We’ll see.

    It was fairly low crime, not overly developed, decent/good infrastructure, tons of electricity ready waterfront and canal land.

    Maybe not to live full time, but spend part of the year there, and keep a foot here to see family, doctors, etc. Maybe run a small business (coffee shop, bookstore).

    Trying to fully fund kiddo’s college and leave him a decent small apt. and a bit of starting cash first. My haughtyville house is already paid off so I’m thinking that keeping a foot on each place will be doable.

  63. 3b says:

    This might actually be the time we get a real chance of having a viable 3rd party to keep a real check on the feckers in both parties.

  64. crushednjmillenial says:

    Libturd at 11:10 . . .

    I just simply disagree with Presidential election analysis that focuses on the popular vote, because the popular vote doesn’t determine the winner of that election. The electoral college does. Therefore, of course, both campaigns’ strategy reflects this reality (so, not much campaigning is done in CA or NY, for example).

    In 2016, about 150,000 votes in the three states of PA, WI, and MI were the margin that needed to change for HRC to win. I called Trump’s 2016 “catching lightning in a bottle.” It was a very, very close election.

    In 2020, about 45,00 votes in the three states of GA, WI, and AZ were the margin that needed to change for DJT to win. I, consistently, call Biden’s 2020 a very close election. And, 2020 was surprisingly closer than 2016.

    So, yes, 30 year realtor, I personally believe that DJT or anyone calling either the 2016 or 2020 presidential elections a landslide is not a fair characterization.

  65. Libturd says:

    But again, you are handpicking electoral college states. That’s like saying, if Biden just managed to win Florida, it would have been a landslide. Silly. In the end, it doesn’t matter. But you can’t discount the popular vote. Unless the Dems implode, I have a feeling the left gets the electoral landslide too. Complete guess, but outside of politicians and the few wonky knuckleheads here, most of the Republicans I know are in remorse. This does not mean support for the blue team. But definitely reconciling their decision of supporting Trump. I can respect this. I can’t respect anyone who feels Trump shouldn’t be removed at this point. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Republican Party would be asking for Hillary to be publicly executed and the name Hillary to be forever banished from use going forward.

  66. Phoenix says:

    “This might actually be the time we get a real chance of having a viable 3rd party to keep a real check on the feckers in both parties.”

    Good post. Time to start rank choice voting. There are plenty of people out there that are not polarized freak Democrats or Republicans. Soon as someone is “Pro-Trump” they are labeled a racist, when all they liked about him is his (supposed) bringing back jobs to America schtick.

    American politics are like buying a car. You want the leather seats cause you travel but in order to get what you need you have to take the damn sunroof you know is going to leak in 5 years.

  67. Phoenix says:

    “most of the Republicans I know are in remorse.” Yeah, well they were driving the bus as well, and are to blame as are the Democrats.
    None of them have anything in common with those they were elected to represent.

  68. crushednjmillenial says:

    Libturd at 12:41 . . .

    I am not handpicking states randomly. I am looking at the states that were closest, which represented enough votes to change the outcome of the election. Biden won 306-232. The margin is 36 electoral votes. The three states of WI, AZ, and GA represent 37 electoral votes and each was decided by less than 20,000 votes. Very close.

    Personally, that’s just my metric for evaluating how close a presidential election was. And, I personally believe that behind closed doors, the Biden campaign team was looking at closely at this measure.

    Your FL example is not apt, because the margin in FL was 350,000 votes. A lot of votes needed to change for Biden to win FL, so I’d argue FL wasn’t too close.

    We’ll all see how 2022 goes, I wonder how much R support is diminshed by everything that has happened since November 2020.

  69. Phoenix says:

    The Republicans who don’t support Trump will not be trusted anymore by Republican voters.
    I work with plenty of “soccer mommies” who are so pro-Trump your eyes would water less if you were working in an onion peeler factory. Ones who were scared to death of a BLM protest in their towns. Their mouths are glued shut now. But inside they are burning inside like Centralia, Pa.

  70. Phoenix says:

    Yup.
    There is a 53 percent problem in American feminism.

    According to exit polls, that is the percentage of white women who voted for Donald Trump. Whose votes helped hand the presidency to a man who said women who have abortions should face punishment and bragged that he grabs women “by the p—-.”

    “It feels like women betrayed us,” Madonna told Billboard magazine earlier this month.

    “The triumph of President-elect Donald Trump represents the failure of many things. One of them is white feminism,” black feminist author Tamara Winfrey Harris wrote on bitchmedia.org after the election.

    Even though a majority of white women voted for Trump, white feminists are now urging resistance to his presidency. They’ve called for solidarity across racial lines and for a massive Women’s March on Washington the day after the inauguration.

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/11/many-white-women-still-voted-for-trump-in-2020.html

  71. Phoenix says:

    Turns out old Billy Red Ball Burr was right about this as well.

    White female voters have been consistently voting Republican since 1952. In the 1960 election, white men preferred John F. Kennedy by a one-point margin, whereas white women supported Richard Nixon. The only two Democrats they’ve voted for since the 1950s are Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton — both southern guys who are pretty frickin’ masculine and could have been Republicans in another life.

    https://youtu.be/O1xgXJ5_Q34?t=194

    Why do white women so reliably support Republicans?
    The Republican Party is the party of keeping the white heteropatriarchy intact. And that’s appealing to many white women voters.

  72. Phoenix says:

    But part of it is wanting to stay on top of the racial hierarchy. These women have agreed to accept second-class status with their gender, as long as the Republican Party puts them first with race and keeps them safe.

    It seems like Trump directly appealed to this idea by telling suburban women he would protect them from low-income housing and get their husbands “back to work” — as if they were all still living like ’50s housewives.
    It’s a thinly veiled promise to keep nonwhites out of their neighborhood. It’s this concept of the “protection racket” in feminist literature, where men say “I’m going to put you on that pedestal, but you’re going to be in a cage.” There are a lot of white women on the left who reject that. But there’s a long history of white women needing and wanting to be ahead of Black people, Latinx people, Asian people, Indigenous people. They may rationalize their votes by saying their Republican vote is better for their 401(k) or their religious beliefs, but it’s also about racism.

  73. 3b says:

    Phoenix: I know some proud Liberals who support everything and anything deemed left. All for equality , and BLM, and all the rest . Except for low/moderate income housing in their towns. It’s humorous to watch them agonizingly explain while they are all for it, but it just would not work in their town, and it should be in someone else’s town. So then it’s decided to be built in a struggling white blue collar town and those people protest against it, and the proud liberals in the other town call them ignorant racists. I have seen it multiple times. Liberals/ Leftists can be racist too they just hide it better.

  74. Fabius Maximus says:

    3rd party will not happen as the GOP will not allow it. GOP needs the EC and voter suppression to win. For example they want Michigan to go to a EC allocation from a Winner take all. So instead of Joe getting 16 votes it would split 8 and 8. But they don’t want that for any state they regularly win like FL and are looking Nebraska to go from allocation to Winner take all to get that 1 vote from Joe to Donnie.

  75. Fabius Maximus says:

    Chi, only someone like you would attempt humor with that.

  76. 3b says:

    Fab: A 3rd party will probably never happen because the bought and paid for corrupt politicians in both the Democratic and Republican parties won’t permit it.

    Please stop the nonsense that it would only be the Republican. The DNC forced Hillary on the voters in 2016, and did everything to stop Sanders/Warren 2016 and 20. And you are telling me they would be fine with a 3rd party? You are blinded.

  77. D-FENS says:

    I don’t really care if Biden takes credit for this, so long as he doesn’t kill the idea. It might also boost domestic nuclear production. Imagine vast quantities of cheap electricity. It would solve a lot of our problems…including climate change.

  78. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b,

    The Dems will go for an abolishment of the EC and to a popular vote in a heartbeat. There only worry at that point is a Bernie or a Ron Paul running as an independent.

  79. 3b says:

    Fab: one thing abolishing the EC, another thing being ok with a 3rd party. They won’t, and neither will the Republicans. In fact they will do everything they can to prevent it. Now like no other time in the past perhaps is the time for a 3rd party.

  80. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ahh…the end of endless trump headlines is upon us. The reality show is over. Ratings used to be hot, but people are tired of this show.

  81. Fast Eddie says:

    GOP needs the EC and voter suppression to win

    Mimicked thoughts from the party of chant. How about we all get a Voter ID card along with an app and required pin to cast a vote. This way, no one can ever question it again. Instead, we now have week long voting of pieces of paper being “counted” behind closed doors.

  82. D-FENS says:

    They don’t have the constitutional authority or power to do so. Even if they eventually get all three branches of government.

    Not that it will stop them

    Fabius Maximus says:
    January 13, 2021 at 2:24 pm
    3b,

    The Dems will go for an abolishment of the EC and to a popular vote in a heartbeat. There only worry at that point is a Bernie or a Ron Paul running as an independent

  83. BRT says:

    There only worry at that point is a Bernie or a Ron Paul running as an independent.

    Lol, two guys over 80 at that point? Well, it would make sense given that congress is run by a bunch of seniors well beyond their prime years.

  84. 3b says:

    I can just imagine the process and chaos involved of having a constitutional convention.

  85. BRT says:

    Although, facebook did just ban Ron Paul for nothing so maybe they are afraid of him.

  86. D-FENS says:

    What is more likely, in my opinion, is that swing states with Republican legislatures award their electoral votes on a weighted basis…as opposed to winner take all

  87. 3b says:

    Next Tuesday the lunacy of Trump will be gone, thankfully!! But he will be replaced by a bought and paid for career politician and a liar and plagiarizer. Just saying, but it don’t say much for us as a country.

  88. 30 year realtor says:

    When the investigations are complete this ugly mess of an insurrection will look far uglier. Already 2 suicides I am aware of. One was a Capitol Hill cop and the other arrested for storming the Capitol. Harbingers of dirty secrets that will be revealed. That Q Congresswoman Greene who live tweeted Nancy Pelosi’s location during the siege, they are going to put her under the prison.

  89. AP says:

    Joe Biden’s Secretary of State Pick Has Been an Avid Backer of American Military Intervention

    https://reason.com/2020/11/24/joe-bidens-secretary-of-state-pick-has-been-an-avid-backer-of-american-military-intervention/

    Concerning…

  90. AP says:

    Meanwhile….

    “Dozens of members were absent from proceedings, forced to remain home because they were infected or exposed to the coronavirus. At least three Democrats tested positive after sheltering in a massive safe room for lawmakers last Wednesday, where multiple Republicans refused to wear masks, and many more are now quarantining.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/13/house-impeachment-trump-458589

  91. AP says:

    Reason article cont.

    “When working as Biden’s national security adviser, she notes, Blinken supported the Obama administration’s disastrous Libya campaign, despite the vice president being opposed to that particular intervention.”

  92. 30 year realtor says:

    Last Republican president to win popular vote was Bush in 2004. Before that it was his father in 1988.

  93. Lessthan30 says:

    30 yrs, What does corporate America knows that we don’t know yet?

    From Bloomberg, Key part is “larger conspiracy paying the hotel and travel costs of the insurrectionists,”

    Chief executive officers of major U.S. companies were unanimous in finding that President Donald Trump was unfit for office and that he had incited violence, according to a survey released Wednesday. An overwhelming majority of the 40 CEOs surveyed also said he should be impeached, according to Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, senior associate dean for leadership studies at the Yale School of Management.

    A majority of the unidentified CEOs questioned by the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute also said that they expected attacks by “domestic terrorists” in the next week and that there is a “larger conspiracy paying the hotel and travel costs of the insurrectionists,” Sonnenfeld said, releasing the results of the 18-question survey from a meeting with the CEOs Wednesday morning. The CEOs were responding to growing speculation that unrest in the U.S. and state capitals is receiving organized financial backing, he said. Despite the concern, the executives still support an outdoor ceremony for President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20.

    “This week, CEOs have gone from cautious fear to the edge of horror and alarm, expecting that the nation’s capital will be under violent attack one week from today,” Sonnenfeld said in a telephone interview after the meeting. “They blame the president of the United States for that.”

  94. AJ says:

    In yet another move to reward bad behavior, NJ makes smokers eligible for Vaccine.

  95. Juice box says:

    Donnie is done we got them this time impeachment 2.0
    Has passed the house.

  96. Very Stable Genius says:

    @kylegriffin1

    The 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach:

    Liz Cheney (WY)
    Anthony Gonzalez (OH)
    Jamie Herrera Beutler (WA)
    John Katko (NY)
    Adam Kinzinger (IL)
    Peter Meijer (MI)
    Dan Newhouse (WA)
    Tom Rice (SC)
    Fred Upton (MI)
    David Valadao (CA)

  97. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Plug is now at 69. That really hurts. The pain is now over 600k that I cost myself.

  98. Phoenix says:

    10 members of a now defunct political party. They’re like the last in 10 students to ever graduate from a comptometer school.

  99. Phoenix says:

    Pence will be the one they put up next. Now that will be fun.

  100. BRT says:

    Plug is now at 69. That really hurts. The pain is now over 600k that I cost myself.

    The trick whale’s like Ichikawa was that they can’t small for long. He didn’t think of it as winning $10,000. He thought of it as losing $90,000.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltURKC_V8Hg

  101. njtownhomer says:

    Impeached Orange 2.0

    I look at the money flow and what I see is kind of a big event waiting for us. So many big companies stopped contributing to the PACs who stood up against the EC process. They must have known something about the riot that are not public right now. With all the congress people accounts this is a planned, studied and funded event done by many GOP members. I think after Jan 20, so many details will still be discussed and thrown at the senate trial. Mitch sees this money flow better than anybody else.

    Patriotism, fairness, social justice, corporatism, talk of individualism, meaningless voter-ids, none of them weighs more than the money flow.

  102. ExEssex says:

    Twice is nice.

  103. grim says:

    Can we go for three? We have a few more days.

  104. grim says:

    In yet another move to reward bad behavior, NJ makes smokers eligible for Vaccine.

    This is fucking idiocy, they went from being restrictive to being far too open. We now have 2+ million people fighting for a slot. Kudos.

  105. Juice Box says:

    Jim Cramer boasted on CNBC he went to Staten Island and got vaccinated today.
    Perhaps the boomers will trample themselves soon and cut our liabilities?

  106. AP says:

    “smokers eligible”

    I knew that JR Cigars membership plan would pay for itself ; ) Davidoff Exquisitos. Hmm…

  107. Bystander says:

    But, but Trump cut their taxes. He brought manufacturing back to US, killed business regulation and unleashed the greatest economy in the history of mankind. Why would they turn on fat, R version of The Thing?

  108. AP says:

    Pirate Bay Founder Thinks Parler’s Inability to Stay Online Is ‘Embarrassing’

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/3an7pn/pirate-bay-founder-thinks-parlers-inability-to-stay-online-is-embarrassing

  109. The Great Pumpkin says:

    LGR!!

  110. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Love it!!

    njtownhomer says:
    January 13, 2021 at 6:10 pm
    Pump:
    Ignore the PLUG, take the Space (ARKX)

  111. AP says:

    Last one for tonight….

    Costa Rica’s Buzzy Nicoya Peninsula Is a Natural Haven for Creatives

    https://www.cntraveler.com/story/costa-ricas-buzzy-nicoya-peninsula-is-a-natural-haven-for-creatives/amp

  112. Juice Box says:

    AP – re: Pirate Bay.

    If Cloud flare wanted them down they would be down. They aren’t a threat to any political party, so they are left alone.

  113. AP says:

    “threat to any political party, so they are left alone.”

    That and also not being a platform for white supremacy and sedition probably.

  114. Grim says:

    Snapchat bans Trump in some bizarre attempt at relevance.

  115. grim says:

    Sorry, not 2 million, it’s now a free-for-all of 4.5 million people trying to register at Shoprite.

  116. grim says:

    Eh, look at the bright side, we’re all smokers now.

  117. BRT says:

    Murph is just a joke. A real low IQ individual along with his “health commissioner”. When I saw smoker on the list but not Type 1 diabetic….seriously. I would hope whoever runs against him would use this as easy fodder.

  118. RentL0rd says:

    Bystander, what koolaid have you been drinking? Unemployment is higher now than in 2016, the temporary economic boom you are seeing is due to massive QE. We are now in the biggest economic bubble ever thanks to President Reject.

    An then there are followers like you who are so stupid that they cannot carry out a coup inspite of inside help from the WH. Watch these idiots proud of their accomplishment-

    https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1349338046282543106

    But yes, let’s move on and talk about something else.

  119. joyce says:

    You clearly read the comments here on a daily basis, like the group of regulars. Have you not picked up on Bystander’s general demeanor? It was obviously sarcasm and a dig at any Trump supporters (and probably at Gary in particular). Thinking Bystander is a Trump follower is hilarious.

    It amazes me when people say something like this on here; such short-term memory if even that. Maybe that’s what twitter, facebook and the rest have done to you.

    RentL0rd says:
    January 13, 2021 at 9:12 pm
    Bystander, what koolaid have you been drinking? Unemployment is higher now than in 2016, the temporary economic boom you are seeing is due to massive QE. We are now in the biggest economic bubble ever thanks to President Reject.

    An then there are followers like you who are so stupid that they cannot carry out a coup inspite of inside help from the WH. Watch these idiots proud of their accomplishment-

    https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1349338046282543106

    But yes, let’s move on and talk about something else.

  120. Bystander says:

    Rent,

    Huh? Re-read my post..or any for the last 4 years. You are missing my sarcasm..bigly.

  121. Phoenix says:

    I think the “Lord” thought I was a Trumpy as well. Regardless, I do agree with his statement here.
    ” Unemployment is higher now than in 2016, the temporary economic boom you are seeing is due to massive QE. “

  122. Phoenix says:

    “health commissioner”. When I saw smoker on the list but not Type 1 diabetic.

    Well, maybe the “Commish” is a Doctor, you know, the PhD type that insists on being called doctor.

  123. BRT says:

    Actually, she was a nurse. Btw, as far as smokers go…aparently they forgot to ask “the science”. Smokers have fared better than the general population as far as getting hospitalized. The old saying “it’s gotta kill something” actually might be true in this case.

    According to Haynor and colleagues, recent studies have shown that smokers are significantly under-represented among hospitalized COVID-19 patients in China, France, Italy, Germany, the UK, the USA, Israel, Iran, South Korea, Kuwait, Mexico, Spain, and Switzerland.

    “The apparent substantial under-representation of smokers among COVID-19 inpatients consistently across thirteen countries is remarkable,” says the team. “This is surprising as smoking is generally associated with greatly exacerbating respiratory infections.”

    Suggested mechanisms that may confer a protective effect of smoking include altered host cell expression of angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2, the receptor the virus uses to infects cells); the anti-inflammatory activity of nicotine; the antiviral effect of nitric oxide; the effects of smoking on the immune system and vapor heat-related stimulation of immunity in the respiratory tract.

  124. Fabius Maximus says:

    So Donnie releases a recorded speech. Its not so much that he should have given this last week. He should have said this years ago.
    I have to assume that he is throwing the MAGAheads under the bus on the advice of his lawyers to defer the inevitable charges. I wonder how they’ll take it.
    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/13/trump-white-house-video-response-to-capitol-riot-vpx.cnn

  125. BRT says:

    She’s a bad nurse turned into a hospital administrative hack. She sent covid patients back to the nursing homes by executive order and is on tape joking she can get her medicaid budget in because of all the seniors that died. Hospital admins are literally the worst people on the planet. When my father lost his contract to run the Neonatal ward, in 15 years, he only lost 2 kids. They allowed someone to come in and undercut him saying he could give them the same coverage for less money. He lost 15 kids the first year on the job, and all the nurses at the ward quit out of fear of getting sued. The admins didn’t give a crap. In fact, they referred him to the other hospital that my father ran the ward at to undercut him there.

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  127. RentL0rd says:

    Apologies Bystander. I wasn’t entirely sure if you were being sarcastic. And yes, I don’t read all the posts here everyday of the year.

    But hey, can we talk about the Yeehawwdis?

  128. Hold my beer says:

    Maybe he’s just paying him for what he’s worth.

    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-wont-pay-rudy-giuliani-election-legal-work-032513094.html

    He’s getting the NPNP deal. No pay No Pardon

  129. 30 year realtor says:

    For Juice Box or anyone else questioning precedent for impeachment after leaving office…
    Why Trump Can Be Convicted Even as an Ex-President https://nyti.ms/3bCXTi5

  130. Hold my beer says:

    If trump makes a farewell speech, do you think he throws his legal team under the bus and claims he was just following their advice to not concede?

  131. grim says:

    USPS has now completely shit the bed, it’s awful.

  132. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Propaganda and TDS are running at an all time high. This tops all the other hoaxes, Russia, cavanaugh, failed impeachment I.

    Speaking of USPS, have they posted the national guard down at the local post office yet, I heard there were some MAGA people around.

  133. 30 year realtor says:

    Goat,

    The only deranged people are those who believe Trump is not a danger to our democracy. You are a traitor.

    This Capitol Hill incident is going to be the beginning of a purge of white supremacists from police departments all over this country. Everyday more cops are being arrested for being part of the mob that stormed the Capitol. The resulting investigations may lead to the most significant police reform in decades.

  134. 30 year realtor says:

    Wait until these traitors find out the penalties awaiting them under federal statute for the crimes they have committed. Those with weapons or who made threats against lawmakers will not see freedom for a very long time.

  135. Juice Box says:

    30 yr – I don”t subscribe to Pravda, because they only tell their audience what they want to hear.

    Sure they will try and impeach a private citizen. It won’t stand up to a court challenge.
    Since Chucky Schumer and crew in the Senate suffer from massive TDS they will try for sure and SCOTUS will slap they down. Will they get 67 votes, to convict? Not Likely either.

  136. Juice Box says:

    Police reform in NJ starts with body cameras, ask Gov Murphy where are the body cameras? He says we cannot find the money, but he can find the money for useless contact tracers and money for lots of other pet projects.

  137. 30 year realtor says:

    Now the NYT is Pravda? TDS? Juice, I expect better of you.

    Will they get 67 votes? I agree that it is unlikely. It is very sad that Republicans love Trump more than they love this country. After this matter is fully investigated the American public will be appalled at the findings and the inaction of Republicans.

  138. Juice Box says:

    30 yr reporters have quit The NY Times because of their biased political agenda. That makes it Pravda, it is an echo chamber behind a paywall now.

    I can find quotes from a dozen constitutional scholars that will say impeachment of a private citizen is not in the constitution.

    They will do it anyway because well politics is a contact sport.

  139. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Lol. Ok 30 year. Lots of straw men there. Good luck with you red terror reprisals.

    Had the democrats not conducted multiple propaganda industry coordinated hoaxes and had they at one point in the past four years acted rationally or with a shred of restraint they may have credibility today. They have none.

    Mickie Sherrill our there with her latest kookie conspiracy claims. Nj loves electing losers.

  140. AP says:

    “NY Times because of their biased political agenda”

    Juice, the problem with the NYT isn’t that girl last year who recently threw a fit because her colleagues were being mean to her on the internal Slack, and when on lame, mine speaking your about. That was just being immature and thin-skinned.

    If you want to dunk on the NYT talk about Judith Miller publishing war propaganda which had a material impact on the lead up to the Iraq Invasion.

    At least dunk on them for the right reasons.

    Re: Senate trial after a leaving office. That’s the new Tom Cotton talking point and it’s legal BS to provide a cover for scaredy cat Rep senators who don’t want to stand up for our democracy.

  141. AP says:

    Typos. Multitasking.

  142. Juice Box says:

    AP – You want a SLAM DUNK? I was thinking of James Bennet, the former editor of the NY Times who resigned last year because his co-workers at the NY Times went after him over the Tom Cotton editorial about law and order and sending in the troops to protect the cities. They found it unacceptable to publish and opinion that was against their agenda. Their political BIAS was the reason they went after him, so he resigned.

  143. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    I heard bari Weiss has interviewed. She sounded pretty well balanced an massively progressive. I don’t think its a reach to conclude wokesters are calling the shots at The NY Times.

  144. 30 year realtor says:

    Conspiracy theories? Congresswoman live tweets location of Nancy Pelosi so enemy combatants can locate her. Not a big stretch to believe she invited these people in for a reconnaissance mission the day prior to the seige.

    All of this will be thoroughly investigated. The truth will come out. Charges will be filed. Prosecution will be swift and the penalties will be harsh!

    Every loud mouth Trumper who has posted incendiary crap on social media in support of the Capitol seige is going to receive a visit from the FBI.

  145. Juice Box says:

    30 year – I know all of this arouses you but really? live tweets location?

    tweet—>”The Speaker has been removed from the chambers”

    That sounds like GPS coordinates. Send Rep. Lauren Boeber to the Gallows!

  146. AP says:

    “She sounded pretty well balanced an massively progressive”

    I think she’s cute too.

    “James Bennet”

    He made a lot of grievous editorial errors including that one over the past few years. There more to that story, Juice.

  147. Juice Box says:

    AP – He resigned on the Cotton editorial, but facts aren’t facts these days….Funny part is his is left, admittedly so, but dogma is dogma and it shall not be questioned, and the party purge isn’t over yet it’s only just beginning now that the Democrats WON the election and morphed into the party of Law and Order.

    All thought shall be filtered. Just look at Michelle Obama the new rising star of the Stasi calling for a complete internet ban of Trump. Free Speech? Hahahha not in this administration..

  148. Juice Box says:

    Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. We shall purge congress of these insurrectionists!!

    Section 3
    No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

  149. AP says:

    Juice, “Michelle Obama the new rising star of the Stasi ”

    Bruh, how many cups of coffee this morning? : )

  150. ExEssex says:

    One of President Donald Trump’s lesser known but profoundly damaging legacies will be the explosive rise in the national debt that occurred on his watch. The financial burden that he’s inflicted on our government will wreak havoc for decades, saddling our kids and grandkids with debt.

    The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.

    The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by a leading Washington budget maven, Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war.

  151. Juice Box says:

    Let’s inflame the rhetoric a bit more why don’t we since we are now the majority? Here let do a quick temporary rules change in the House of Reps for me but not for you, it expires at the end of the month.

    Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) also chimed in, calling Trump the “racist-in-chief.”

    Normally, such language is prohibited during debate on the floor by House rules. But House Democrats passed a temporary rule change on Tuesday that applies to debate on H. Res. 21 and H. Res. 24. Democrats called President Donald Trump a racist several times during the House debate on impeachment Wednesday, taking advantage of a temporary rule change they passed earlier this week.

    Rule change expires at the end of the month, you cannot call Joe Biden names we won’t allow that to happen, in these sacred hallowed halls….

  152. D-FENS says:

    Calling this a rebellion or insurrection is intellectually dishonest. Total propaganda designed to remove Republican members of congress and consolidate Democratic power over the legislature. Putting 20k national guard troops is totally for show. Now when nothing happens on 1/20 they can say “see, we prevented an uprising!”.

    I ask you, what country in the world has the most privately owned firearms? Of the people within that country, what political party do most or many of them belong to?

    Most of the people at that demonstration on 1/6 probably privately own tons of firepower. What kind of rebellion/insurrection doesn’t bring a single firearm?

    War on “Domestic Terrorists” is coming. They will be using it to take more of your individual civil rights.

    Safety!

  153. D-FENS says:

    Anyone supporting impeachment is guilty of inciting violence.

    30 year realtor says:
    January 14, 2021 at 8:05 am
    Now the NYT is Pravda? TDS? Juice, I expect better of you.

    Will they get 67 votes? I agree that it is unlikely. It is very sad that Republicans love Trump more than they love this country. After this matter is fully investigated the American public will be appalled at the findings and the inaction of Republicans.

  154. Juice Box says:

    AP -Trump would rather lose his presidency than his social media presence, so they took it away a complete ban on his internet presence across the board. No debate, no appeal. The soon to be former president cannot even send an email anymore, and they want it that way forever. The election was too close and they have a mid-term to win in only two short years to keep power.

    That is power. Is it too much power? You can bet the leaders in the EU and other places are thinking hard about it.

    Also the idea that Parler was used to organize the rebellion and insurrection is preposterous. It was all done on FB and Twitter and Zuck and Jack are busy covering their tracks now.

  155. 30 year realtor says:

    D-FENS says:
    January 14, 2021 at 9:53 am
    Calling this a rebellion or insurrection is intellectually dishonest. Total propaganda designed to remove Republican members of congress and consolidate Democratic power over the legislature. Putting 20k national guard troops is totally for show. Now when nothing happens on 1/20 they can say “see, we prevented an uprising!”.

    I ask you, what country in the world has the most privately owned firearms? Of the people within that country, what political party do most or many of them belong to?

    Most of the people at that demonstration on 1/6 probably privately own tons of firepower. What kind of rebellion/insurrection doesn’t bring a single firearm?

    War on “Domestic Terrorists” is coming. They will be using it to take more of your individual civil rights.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/stun-guns-stinger-whips-crossbow-what-police-found-capitol-protesters-n1254127

  156. Juice Box says:

    Essex – Trump cannot even win in the National Debt race. Obama won that race he is #1 of all time it will go down in the history books at $8.6 trillion. Yes I know two terms yada, yada yada, we will be sure to footnote it for the history students to read when my new book “greatest presidents and worst presidents of all time” comes out.

  157. 30 year realtor says:

    Juice,

    The second Trump announces a press conference or decides to make a statement on national TV, he will have the focus of the world’s attention. Who needs social media?

  158. TheProblemTodayIS GenShermanDidNotKillEnoughSouthernMales LikeRussiansKilledGermansinWW2 says:

    Regardless of where you stand politically. The truth is this:

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/14/trump-leader-worst-generation-459244

    In fairness, an earlier generation of conservatives might also have a claim of told-you-so. This old critique of Baby Boomer culture was that it was too indulgent, too permissive, too willing to blur old lines of right and wrong. Once you start letting standards erode, the line went, you may find that the foundations of a civilized and functional society are more fragile than you knew.

    How many Republican leaders, in their private thoughts, might acknowledge that this is fair description of the compromise the GOP made in its embrace of Trump and his brand of disruptive politics?

    How many congressional leaders of both parties would acknowledge that letting old standards of institutional respect erode is what often makes life in their branch so unpleasant and unproductive?

    In a week, 78-year-old Joe Biden will take office. Among the other most important people in Washington will be 80-year-old House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 78-year-old Mitch McConnell, about to go from leading a narrow Senate majority to a narrow Senate minority, and 70-year-old Chuck Schumer, taking over as Senate Majority Leader.

    In the closing phase of their careers, perhaps they will decide they wish to take themselves out of the running for the worst generation. The way to do it is by finding something more constructive to do than continuing an argument about Donald Trump.

  159. Juice Box says:

    30 year – The whole point is about power and where it lies. You can bet if Trump went on TV again this week for any reason there would be complaints and they would cut him off, no questions asked.

  160. Phoenix says:

    “The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office.”

    Does this and how much of it went to “Covid” spending?

  161. 30 year realtor says:

    Juice,

    If Trump were to continue to lie about the election and fan the flames that lead to the seige of the Capitol, what do you feel would be the appropriate response?

  162. ExEssex says:

    By early 2019, the national debt had climbed to $22 trillion. Trump’s budget proposal for 2020 called it a “grave threat to our economic and societal prosperity” and asserted that the U.S. was experiencing a “national debt crisis.” However, that same budget proposal included substantial growth in the national debt.

    By the end of 2019, the debt had risen to $23.2 trillion and more federal officials were sounding the alarm. “Not since World War II has the country seen deficits during times of low unemployment that are as large as those that we project — nor, in the past century, has it experienced large deficits for as long as we project,” Phillip Swagel, director of the CBO, said in January 2020.

    Weeks later, COVID-19 erupted and made the financial situation far worse. As of Dec. 31, 2020, the national debt had jumped to $27.75 trillion, up 39% from $19.95 trillion when Trump was sworn in. The government ended its 2020 fiscal year with the portion of the national debt owed to investors, the metric favored by the CBO, at around 100% of GDP. The CBO had predicted less than a year earlier that it would take until 2030 to reach that approximate level of debt. Including the trillions owed to various governmental trust funds, the total debt is now about 130% of GDP.

    Source: Propublica

  163. 30 year realtor says:

    Polls say 45% of Republican voters support the seige of the Capitol. Juice, are you part of the 45%?

  164. Juice Box says:

    They aren’t stopping for sundown or God.

    “Israel’s vaccination programme is so far the fastest in the world and has given the vaccine to more than two million people – around 20 percent of its population.

    The programme runs 24/7, even on the Jewish holy day of Shabbat, and is being boosted by hundreds of Israeli combat medics who have been culled in for duty.”

  165. Phoenix says:

    The same corporations that have banned Trump have benefited greatly from him as their goal is to make money and keep people tuned into them, and he has done that.

    They thrive, like news, over the amplification of disrupting behavior and so they are a part of this just like he is. Only they get to turn their heads around and briskly walk away, just waiting for the next hot thing to come in.

  166. Juice Box says:

    30 year – I support the party of reason.

    Which one is that?

  167. ExEssex says:

    Maga-not

  168. Juice Box says:

    30 year -re: “If Trump were to continue to lie about the election and fan the flames”

    We should maybe go down the road of criminalizing strong or misguided opinions on a mass scale. This needs to be applied by the Justice System evenly on all politicians. No more lies, no more misguided opinions, no more tweeting, perhaps no more social media for politicians. It’s just too dangerous and frankly gives them all too much power.

    The Politicans should only go on TV and Radio only and if they mispeak the “censor” hits the mute button. Just like they used to do when people swore on live TV.

    That has about as much of a chance as getting money out of politics of course.

  169. ExEssex says:

    Maga-nut

  170. Phoenix says:

    What surprises me more than anything is how many are not even in the least disturbed by digital or virtual book burning.

  171. Phoenix says:

    Guess no one noticed when the NYP was blocked out of it’s account over Hunter Biden’s laptop.

    Yeah, lets just let private corporations decide what we see and what we here. That’s okay.

  172. ExEssex says:

    Deez Nuts

  173. ExEssex says:

    T he pandemic has brought the commercial real estate market in San Francisco to a new low, with work-from-home policies and office closures slowing Silicon Valley-driven business expansion to numbers not seen in at least three decades.

    New office-leasing activity in 2020 dropped a staggering 71% compared with the year before, according to the real estate brokerage Cushman & Wakefield, from 7.7m to 2.2m sq ft – the lowest since the early 1990s. Tenant demand also halved during the pandemic, from 6.6m sq ft to 3.3m sq ft.

    “Vacancies have obviously climbed substantially,” said Robert Sammons, Cushman & Wakefield’s senior director of Bay Area research, adding that more than half of the rise was driven by sublease vacancy, a common commercial space practice in San Francisco in which subleasers lease from a tenant, not a property manager. “That has never happened before in San Francisco,” he said.

  174. Bystander says:

    Phoenix 1:08,

    That is one of the best summaries I have read. Exactly on point. We live in the ‘I got mine’ era that is rapidly escalating with politicians on both sides, blaming each other. So much of it is thinly veiled redirection when really it comes down to financial protection. Basically for all Americans, it comes down to labor laws, tax policy, corporate kickbacks and largesse deficit spending. They don’t want us to focus on reform at all because Congress and Senate would have to change their greedy, corp shill ways.

  175. Phoenix says:

    You have to give them credit. Those social media companies wringed out the last drop of Trump/Trump supporter RBC’s. Now they are going to take some of that same blood they just made and transfuse it into the new administration since they are in power, get consent from Biden and friends, stick needles in our collective arms and exsanguinate the general public of its freedoms, it’s privacy, and it’s cash.

    Your bone marrow won’t be able to keep up.

  176. Fast Eddie says:

    What the progressive muppets don’t realize is that this is not an “us vs. them” scenario, it’s an “us vs. the government” scenario. After they censor and destroy any adversaries, who do you think they’ll come for next? What will be the discussion this time next week? Who will be blamed when the next administration fails? In a communal society, who decides who’s worthy and who isn’t?

  177. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,

    Money = worthy. Does not matter where it comes from as long as you have it
    Broke = not worthy, does not matter why you don’t have it, GFY.

    Hot looking younger woman = worthy. Has value that can be traded for money at any time.
    Man= not worthy, disposable, only valuable if they can make/have money. Lose it for any reason, not worthy, not valuable.

  178. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    You have money. You are good to go. You make money. Another plus.

    No worries for you.

    Green light, you may proceed.

  179. Phoenix says:

    After some followers questioned his claims about AIG Tuesday, Schilling replied with a screenshot of his alleged correspondence with the company. He later said he was a ‘AAA customer with zero claims in our 17 years with them’.

    The screenshot read in part that canceling Schilling’s insurance plan was ‘a management decision that was made collectively between underwriting and marketing teams that could not be overturned.’

  180. Phoenix says:

    American rabbits on steroids. Only they can make rabbit holes this deep. Some of them seem to have no bottom at all.

  181. Fast Eddie says:

    And, I’m in mod once again. Wow, the censorship is really propagating through the system!!

  182. Bystander says:

    Hey Lib,

    What is your cheapo site for home insurance renewal? I sent blast out to 5 different agencies with current insurance attached. Not finding alot of prem difference even with usual new policy discount.

  183. 30 year realtor says:

    Schilling added: ‘I don’t imagine it’s even close to what we will witness in the coming months, years, if we let the Nazi’s win and the fraud is allowed to stand’

    Now I am confused. Schilling is against the nazis? But they are on the same side.

  184. BRT says:

    What surprises me more than anything is how many are not even in the least disturbed by digital or virtual book burning.

    How many people were disturbed by Snowden leaking what the government was doing? Most people walked around calling the guy a traitor. Some still do.

  185. Juice Box says:

    BRT – He broke the law and knew he was breaking it, that is why he fled. He was called a traitor by our lawmakers who put those laws into place to make sure that things the government does to spy on everyone are kept a secret.

    He was charged with two Federal crimes. If and when he leaves Russia he will be prosecuted, that is the deal.

    Should the government be spying on everyone? It’s law, there is only one way to change it, a vote in congress to change it or challenge it in court and find judge to rule favorably on it.

    Funny thing Joe Biden as VP went out of his way to threaten Equador and convince them to retract their offer of Asylum which they did. Don’t expect Sleepy Joe to offer him any kind of clemency or pardon. Perhaps if Snowden put on a dress and called himself Edith Snowden he might have a chance.

  186. AP says:

    2019: The Vessel, an “esthetically challenged symbol of corrupt opulence and suspicious financing” opens up in NYC’s Hudson Yards “neighborhood”.

    2021: Following Third Suicide in One Year, Vessel Closes Indefinitely

    https://hyperallergic.com/614724/following-third-suicide-in-one-year-vessel-closes-indefinitely/

  187. chicagofinance says:

    “exsanguinate” not only do I not know that word’s meaning….. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen it.

  188. chicagofinance says:

    Interesting. Only because I know Spanish vocabulary did I make a good educated guess….

  189. Juice Box says:

    30 Yr. – Interesting read on the “protest data” I cited.

    Seems the Police crack down harder on the left.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/13/us-police-use-of-force-protests-black-lives-matter-far-right

  190. chicagofinance says:

    It’s the same as it ever was….. just because of the internet and ubiquitous cameras and recording devices do you get a front row view. There is no revolution here.

    What is happening is that Gen Y is growing up and asserting the power than comes with their plurality in the population. They are going to be gaining more and more strength, and finally the Boomers will become frail and die off. The baton will be handed over. Gen X will be fcuked over, as we always are.

    The only cold revenge for Gen X will be our kids….. Gen Z and younger will absolutely butcher these bastards for the useless swine they are.

    Bystander says:
    January 14, 2021 at 10:51 am
    Phoenix 1:08,
    That is one of the best summaries I have read. Exactly on point. We live in the ‘I got mine’ era that is rapidly escalating with politicians on both sides, blaming each other. So much of it is thinly veiled redirection when really it comes down to financial protection. Basically for all Americans, it comes down to labor laws, tax policy, corporate kickbacks and largesse deficit spending. They don’t want us to focus on reform at all because Congress and Senate would have to change their greedy, corp shill ways.

  191. Juice Box says:

    They got the fire extinguisher tosser, from the Insurrection.

    Robert Sanford Retired Pennsylvania firefighter, 55

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9147781/Man-threw-fire-extinguisher-police-U-S-Capitol-arrested.html

  192. JCer says:

    The revelations of Snowdon and Asange should have woken people up but they haven’t. What can be gleaned from this is that big tech is very much in bed with the NSA/CIA. They have unrestricted access and they have used this in the past to engage in blackmailing of US citizens and citizens of our allies.

    On the capital riot, lots of useful idiots. But does anyone really believe Trump wanted them to invade the capitol? The whole point was to have a mass of voters and for there to be a dog and pony show during the certification of the EC vote, this was to be a spectacle. Simply put too many coincidences, it seems like someone planned it but not necessarily all the idiots that took part. Furthermore during the 2016 election we already learned that the DNC hired agitators to provoke violence at Trump rallies. Do we really think those mouth breathers planned this? It’s laughable to discuss this as something rising to the level of impeachment.

    To those claiming Trumps wild claims on the election are to blame, lets frame this differently. You have an exceedingly close election where you have irregularities, there is no audit, there is no investigation, and no one discredits any of the claims sufficiently. You have evidence there was sufficient amounts of potentially suspect votes to potentially change the outcome of the election. Furthermore you have a disregard of the state Constitutions and election laws as written. There are millions of people harboring doubts about the integrity of the election. Instead of dispelling them by producing evidence to the contrary, they dismiss all of the cases, and proclaim it the most secure election EVER. Even baring voter fraud someone needs to answer for the blatant disregard for the law exhibited by some state governments.

    Now we are are actually seeing purges. Between Schilling losing his insurance policy and the other account of a guy being fired because a client found out he worked for the Trump campaign, the people making up lists after the election weren’t lying. They intend to blacklist these Trump supporters.

  193. Juice Box says:

    Stay home folks….CDC projects another 92,000 Americans will die in next THREE weeks from Covid-19

  194. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My vote for post of the day.

    chicagofinance says:
    January 14, 2021 at 2:03 pm
    It’s the same as it ever was….. just because of the internet and ubiquitous cameras and recording devices do you get a front row view. There is no revolution here.

    What is happening is that Gen Y is growing up and asserting the power than comes with their plurality in the population. They are going to be gaining more and more strength, and finally the Boomers will become frail and die off. The baton will be handed over. Gen X will be fcuked over, as we always are.

    The only cold revenge for Gen X will be our kids….. Gen Z and younger will absolutely butcher these bastards for the useless swine they are.

  195. Juice Box says:

    Vaccination data for NJ is finally up on the website. https://covid19.nj.gov/

    They don’t post the stockpile. I will put that up for them.
    654,900 does received, 264,681 administered, so almost 400,000 doses in cold storage and more on the way.

    By County.

    ATLANTIC COUNTY

    10,234 Doses Administered

    BERGEN COUNTY

    31,665 Doses Administered

    BURLINGTON COUNTY

    13,905 Doses Administered

    CAMDEN COUNTY

    15,833 Doses Administered

    CAPE MAY COUNTY

    4,277 Doses Administered

    CUMBERLAND COUNTY

    4,195 Doses Administered

    ESSEX COUNTY

    24,083 Doses Administered

    GLOUCESTER COUNTY

    9,848 Doses Administered

    HUDSON COUNTY

    11,893 Doses Administered

    HUNTERDON COUNTY

    4,578 Doses Administered

    MERCER COUNTY

    7,002 Doses Administered

    MIDDLESEX COUNTY

    21,126 Doses Administered

    MONMOUTH COUNTY

    22,782 Doses Administered

    MORRIS COUNTY

    20,950 Doses Administered

    OCEAN COUNTY

    15,508 Doses Administered

    OUT OF STATE COUNTY

    14,269 Doses Administered

    PASSAIC COUNTY

    13,269 Doses Administered

    SALEM COUNTY

    1,399 Doses Administered

    SOMERSET COUNTY

    11,398 Doses Administered

    SUSSEX COUNTY

    4,700 Doses Administered

    UNION COUNTY

    13,458 Doses Administered

    UNKNOWN COUNTY

    8,519 Doses Administered

    WARREN COUNTY

    2,949 Doses Administered

    https://covid19.nj.gov/

  196. Hold my beer says:

    Juice

    I called the fire extinguisher guy as fire department. But I was thinking major city.

  197. 30 year realtor says:

    Juice,

    What if these guys on the watch list were Muslims? Think the security would have been tighter?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/terror-watchlist-capitol-riot-fbi/2021/01/14/07412814-55f7-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html

  198. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    We should all applaud the cops arresting that guy. But are they claiming Sicknick was killed by ANOTHER fire extinguisher?

    That whole thing stinks.

  199. Fast Eddie says:

    Holy good f.uck… this man is fried. This is the past year alone. Good f.ucking luck:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slm5bvO-_5I

  200. 30 year realtor says:

    Goat,

    How many fire extinguishers do you think are in the Capitol? Clearly the guy who just arrested thought of using a fire extinguisher as a weapon. Why is it a leap to believe someone else would have the same idea and use one of the other dozens of fire extinguishers? The only thing that stinks is your search for explanations why the truth isn’t real.

  201. Juice Box says:

    Sleepy Joe speaks tonight on live TV on his new and improved Covid response plan.
    Proposing to spend Billions more on top of 4 Trillion already voted on by Congress and signed by Trump including, 900 Billion two week ago.

    I don’t think we got our money’s worth so far. We still cannot get the vaccine into people’s arms faster. We need to vaccinate 2 million people a day to re-open by memorial day weekend.

    It ain’t gonna happen without vaccination squads made up of quickly trained soldiers and volunteers. There is going to be what a few hundred thousand more deaths in the next two months that could have been prevented if the vaccine wasn’t just still sitting on shelves like the 50 million doses Pfizer made in their US Plants last year, that is still sitting there in deep cold storage.

  202. Fast Eddie says:

    That video gets better (or worse) as it goes on. Omg, he’s in another world. This is now the leader of the previously free world.

  203. Juice Box says:

    30 year – Normally BLM and Antifa cheer when the cops get pummeled.

    Now that they are morphing to the party of Law and Order, perhaps some of them should now become protectors of society, join the Police and the Prosecutors offices and make a change from within. Even the hippie antiwar protestors, some violent ones from the late 60s and early 70s eventually grew up and got a job.

    Every push and punch and strike and kick was recorded on video. It will take time but the FBI always gets their man or some ex-wife will drop a dime on them. Perhaps two thousand arrests and trials. Should be good time to be a criminal trial lawyer.

  204. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    30 year

    Time and time again the propaganda industry either distorts or outright fabricates key facts to fit the narrative. You are a fool to take what they say at face value but I’ll keep an open mind.

    Without a cop going down the riot isn’t very compelling. Nobody cares about Congress.

  205. Libturd says:

    AP,

    Excellent link on the Nicoya Peninsula. That is actually where I decided to focus my home search. I’m telling you. That country is the world’s best kept secret. It’s sort of like Bermuda without the high prices and overcrowding. Just a beautiful and friendly place to live with shiny happy people.

  206. Libturd says:

    Bystander,

    I used to use lendingtreedotcom. Ever since hurricane Sandy, the larger insurance companies don’t want me since I had a few claims from fallen trees. So I went to a broker a friend recommended and I now pay less than I did before Sandy. My current insurer is Guard through Berkshire Hathaway at the multi and NJ Skylands at my GR home. My broker is Wilkens out of Bogota. I would try both. Don’t give lending tree your real phone number and use a junk email address. Get your best deal from them and see if Wilkens can beat them. Remember, there are a lot of different options so make sure you are comparing apples with apples when getting quotes.

  207. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Some people ruin it all for others…

    If you want to kill yourself, don’t do it in ways that hurt others. Do you have to make a scene by jumping off a building…and then forcing the building to close its doors to people that might actually enjoy the experience. Next time you want to kill yourself, call a hotline or take some pills.

    AP says:
    January 14, 2021 at 1:45 pm
    2019: The Vessel, an “esthetically challenged symbol of corrupt opulence and suspicious financing” opens up in NYC’s Hudson Yards “neighborhood”.

    2021: Following Third Suicide in One Year, Vessel Closes Indefinitely

    https://hyperallergic.com/614724/following-third-suicide-in-one-year-vessel-closes-indefinitely/

  208. AP says:

    I can already see it, Lib. Buying land in the right place and having an exit plan is a smart move. If land tax and assorted fees are reasonable, then it makes sense to me.

    Grim has my email, please keep me posted.

  209. chicagofinance says:

    Too late….. my son already has a 14 year old birthday party at Hooters in East Brunswick….. when I got the call I kind of stammered (as in WTF? COVID duh?). I think the mom misunderstood my hesitation. She said “don’t worry, I used to work there….” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

    Juice Box says:
    January 14, 2021 at 2:09 pm
    Stay home folks….CDC projects another 92,000 Americans will die in next THREE weeks from Covid-19

  210. Libturd says:

    To all of the loonies here who are trying to separate Trump from the Capital Building storming. You are making absolute complete fools of yourselves.

    Is there politics being played post attack? Absolutely. You lost! You backed a perpetual loser and he lost again. Stop making believe that the attack had nothing to do with him.
    It had EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HIM.

    You can continue to point out every boneheaded action performed by any and every member of the Democratic Party since before Biden was born. But it absolutely, unequivocally will pale in comparison to what the world witnessed on that Wednesday. The world knows it was an attempt to disregard the results of a legitimate election. Honestly, when you flip the chessboard in the air just before you are about to be checkmated, you can’t expect the winner to play you in another game.

    You LOST A COMPLETELY LEGITAMITE ELECTION. Anything you claim otherwise makes you look exactly like a failed actor, who lived at home with his mom and claimed to be the Q-Anon shaman. There is absolutely no proof of voter fraud. NONE! This administration took lying to a level never seen before anywhere. You are a sucker for believing any of it. The list of lies are absolutely dizzying and endless. It started with the birthers and never stopped. Which is why the actions on Wednesday were not really as eye opening as they would have been if they had a single ounce of legitimacy.

    Trust me, we are aware the Democrats ignored a lot of the issues that mattered to the red states. Heck, it’s why Trump got elected in the first place. But it was Trump’s responsibility to fix the things that Obama ignored. Instead he incited a riot to get the results of an election overturned.

    Get it through your thick skulls Trump defenders. The removal of Trump is not left versus right. It’s order versus anarchy. It’s civility versus bullying. Most importantly, it’s the truth versus lies.

    Easter. He said this would be over by Easter.

    Remember how upset all of you right wingers were at HRC for the 12 hours it took her to make a reconciliation speech? Your great and wonderful country destroyer still hasn’t and the inauguration is a week away.

    Just take your medicine already. The longer you defend the worst president ever (and he was), the sooner we forget how dumb your party was to allow him to hijack it.

    Election fraud. Enough already!

  211. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    You are one insensitive phallus.

  212. Phoenix says:

    Hooters @ 14?

    Yeah, guess that’s about right. At least they will be ready when that teacher goes to give extra credit.

  213. Libturd says:

    I used to go to trivia night at the Hooters in Willowbrook. The truth is, the wings there are excellent. Also, most of the waitresses needed more clothing, not less.

  214. Juice Box says:

    My wife’s cousin married a Hooters Girl. They now live a nice quiet life in the Midwest.

  215. ExEssex says:

    4:52 *a waitress

  216. Juice Box says:

    Do you call strippers entertainers?

    Nope it’s still Hooter’s Girl.

    https://www.hooters.com/hooters-girls/

  217. grim says:

    That willowbrook one did have decent wings. I can’t believe it closed down. Buffalo wild wings is crap in comparison.

    My go-to is now the Thai joint that renders them down nice and then kills them. Crispy skin and they fall off the bone like ribs.

  218. grim says:

    West Virginia will be at 100% vaccine distributed by Monday, and they plan to stay at that level. Wow, nicely done.

  219. grim says:

    “It’s as simple as mud. If you can get shots in arms, you’re going to save lives,” Justice said. “We don’t need to sit around trying to develop systems or meeting with committees or whatever. We needed to act. We needed to move.”

  220. chicagofinance says:

    Ex: dedicated to the United States…… some gay Depeche Mode (no not an oxymoron).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E1GBOvo-M

  221. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Unfortunately, I have no empathy towards people that take their own life. ESP when they make it a public spectacle.

    Phoenix says:
    January 14, 2021 at 4:16 pm
    Pumps,
    You are one insensitive phallus.

  222. AP says:

    “mpathy towards people that take their own life”

    Don’t hear that a lot. Why not? These are probably the most miserable, desperate of all. It would seem they deserve more empathy, no?

  223. Juice Box says:

    Biden proposes $1.9 trillion stimulus package. Everyone gets a Pony.

  224. ExEssex says:

    6:28 I saw Erasure live around 1991. They were fantastic.

  225. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Everyone gets depressed. No life is perfect. Life is a gift. If you are born healthy with no disability, and you decide to take your life….well, you are selfish. Go ahead, throw away that gift because you want to take the easy way out.

  226. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nyc bottomed..

    “The number of new leases signed in December jumped to 5,459, up 94% compared with last year, according to a report from Douglas Elliman and Miller Samuel. The gains marked the largest increase in nearly a decade, and the third straight month of year-over-year leasing gains.

    “It’s a baby step in the right direction,” said Jonathan Miller, CEO of appraisal and research firm Miller Samuel. “The metrics are still very weak. But at least it shows there is demand.””

  227. AP says:

    Pump, hold up, that would mean you only extend empathy to people that make all the right choices?

  228. AP says:

    Chi, may I follow your theme?

    “Our so called leaders speak
    With words they try to jail ya
    They subjugate the meek
    But it’s the rhetoric of failure”

    https://youtu.be/BHOevX4DlGk

  229. The Great Pumpkin says:

    While the V-shaped recovery may be somewhat subdued, Wood sees “explosive earnings” ahead, propelled in part by potential bipartisan action on infrastructure, healthcare, and clean energy.
    “We’ll probably see maybe more bipartisan action given how dysfunctional government has seemed and how policymakers probably don’t want to be perceived as part of the problem,” she said. “They want to, hopefully, become part of the solution.”
    What further confirms her view on the V-shaped recovery is the continued rise of cyclical stocks in the market.
    “What’s been beautiful about the equity markets recently is the bull market has been broadening out,” Wood said. “We’ve reached a new high in the equity markets, which means the recovery is over and the bull market has resumed.”
    She continued: “This is not like the tech and telecom bubble when the market narrowed towards the internet stocks, effectively, and biotech. Instead, it’s broadening out, we think that’s very healthy.”

  230. ExEssex says:

    The only V shaped scenario for pumps:
    https://youtu.be/qeRfQs6_fC4

  231. Phoenix says:

    Bystander,
    The article I quoted that from the other day. In case you wanted to read the rest.

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/11/many-white-women-still-voted-for-trump-in-2020.html

  232. grim says:

    Texas hits a million doses administered, a hair under 50% utilization.

  233. ExEssex says:

    Shoutout to all the losers

  234. Juice box says:

    Biden bailout plans so far does not look like much stimulus….Some highlights

    $350 billion in state and local government aid
    $170 billion for K-12 schools and institutions of higher education
    Direct payments of $1,400 to most Americans, costing around $320 billion

    Hiking the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour
    Extending the eviction and foreclosure moratoriums until the end of September
    Extended family leave

    Enhanced unemployment benefits increasing payments by $400 per week through the end of September
    $50 billion for Covid-19 testing
    $20 billion toward a national vaccine program
    Raising the Child Tax Credit to $3,000 per child

  235. BRT says:

    Aside from the first month where over a million of people in this area were likely infected simultaneously, it never made any sense. Politicians are so simple minded they can’t sit down and talk about real solutions. This is the worst part about an ideologically driven media. When is the last time you ever saw a tough question asked to any of them?

    After nearly 300 days of nonstop daily press conferences, I maybe saw 3 or 4 legitimate questions to Cuomo and Murphy combined.

  236. 3b says:

    Juice: I believe Biden’s plan also includes extending the eviction moratorium to Sept.

  237. Juice Box says:

    Blame the Pharmacists!!

    Meanwhile we have a million primary care physicians offices staffed with licensed and trained people who administer vaccines every day left out of the Federal and State plans to vaccinate.

    “As of Thursday, more than 4.7 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna Covid vaccines had been allocated to the federal pharmacy partnership, which has deputized pharmacy teams from Walgreens and CVS to vaccinate nursing home residents and workers. Since the program started in some states on Dec. 21, however, they have administered about one-quarter of the doses, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

    “Many of the nursing homes that have successfully vaccinated willing residents and staff members are doing so without federal help.
    For instance, Los Angeles Jewish Home, with roughly 1,650 staff members and 1,100 residents on four campuses, started vaccinating Dec. 30. By Jan. 11, the home’s medical staff had administered its 1,640th dose. Even the facility’s chief medical director, Noah Marco, helped vaccinate.
    The home is located in Los Angeles County, which declined to participate in the CVS/Walgreens program. Instead, it has tasked nursing homes with administering vaccines themselves, and is using only Moderna’s easier-to-handle product, which doesn’t need to be stored at ultracold temperatures, like the Pfizer vaccine. (Both vaccines require two doses to offer full protection, spaced 21 to 28 days apart.)

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/health/pharmacies-nursing-homes-covid-19-vaccines-kaiser-khn/index.html

  238. Juice Box says:

    Blame CVS and Walgreens!

    Meanwhile we have a million primary care physicians offices staffed with licensed and trained people who administer vaccines every day left out of the Federal and State plans to vaccinate.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/health/pharmacies-nursing-homes-covid-19-vaccines-kaiser-khn/index.html

  239. Juice Box says:

    3b – THe also mentioned tossing them a bone I think $15 Billion for rent and utility assistance.

    There are what 11.2 million behind on rent now owing over 70 Billion from last year alone .Another 9 month extension on evictions will push that to 150 Billion or more.

    That sounds like moral hazard territory (for the banks, the loans backing those rentals) The FED better fire up the money cannons…..and start buying up those loans at PAR no questions asked.

  240. The Great Pumpkin says:

    No, I wouldn’t say simple minded. I would say they are playing a very complicated “game of thrones.” No decision is simple in this game, and every decision has a string attached. The game is the problem, not the people. Any good person that goes into this field becomes corrupted by the game.

    “Politicians are so simple minded they can’t sit down and talk about real solutions.”

  241. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m Catholic, I grew up being taught that suicide was a sin.

    AP says:
    January 14, 2021 at 8:11 pm
    Pump, hold up, that would mean you only extend empathy to people that make all the right choices?

  242. BRT says:

    I went to catholic school for 3 years. I was taught a lot of things that were wrong there by the abusive women running that school. I recognized that by 5th grade after I successfully escaped to public school. Don’t be so dense. When somebody is mentally ill, their aren’t firing on all cylinders and are not in a position to make any kind of rational decisions. I know some people that lost all sense of reality temporarily through no fault of their own.

  243. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Economists saw much to like in how President-elect Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus plan will attack the pandemic and support the recovery, even if key elements may be inefficient or fail to provide long-lasting relief.”

    https://apple.news/AFHQsJ0uVSSGTnOeR01dTlg

  244. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Guys, for your own sake, don’t be afraid of this market. They were calling for bubbles for 10 years straight since 2011. Don’t miss this train based on fear. If it falls, it falls, but if you miss, you will regret it.

  245. Chicago says:

    We appreciate it.

    ExEssex says:
    January 15, 2021 at 7:36 am
    Shoutout to all the losers

  246. 3b says:

    Juice: Moral hazard is probably deemed a suspect term now.

  247. Hold my beer says:

    Sounds about right. Pictures and no more than 2 bullet points cause the stable genius would lose interest otherwise

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/rex-tillerson-says-had-maps-185413168.html

  248. Libturd says:

    “voluntary’

    The key word D, in the failure of lockdowns in selfish America.

  249. Juice Box says:

    We must wait for the red tape.

    ZURICH (Reuters) – A new Swiss production line where contract drugmaker Lonza is making active ingredients for Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine is still awaiting a regulator’s license necessary before the ingredients can be used.

    And we are overpaying.

    “first goal should be supporting the production of enough doses to vaccinate the entire world within a year. It is estimated that building such capacity for an mRNA vaccine like Moderna’s would cost less than $4 billion — that’s significantly less than the U.S. government already spends each day on Covid-19 relief — with the cost about $2 per dose”

  250. Libturd says:

    BRT,

    You are exactly right. As a senior member of Residence Life in college, I dealt with a multiple of suicidal parties. Come to think of it, they were always young women for some reason. Most of the pain in them was caused by an even split between an abusive relationship either with someone they were dating or a parent. A few of them were financial, in that they would not be able to return to school (of one which I was actually able to turn a Stafford loan rejection heading into her senior year into an approval). Though there was one in particular attempt that I thwarted, which I was awarded a citation for. I too always felt suicide was a selfish act, but as long as someone doesn’t take anyone out with them, que sera sera.

    It was about 7pm, and I was entering the largest dorm on campus. This dorm was actually designed by an architect that specialized in prisons (I kid you not). So it’s five floors high, with two giant atriums, surrounded by inside and outside rooms with a single hallway between them. All unpainted poured gray cement. In the middle of the open air structure is an elevator bank of 4 large glass elevators. The bridge connecting the elevators to the hallways separating the inside and outside rooms is also open air with poured cement walls maybe 4 1/2 feet high at best. As I enter the building, I hear a whole bunch of kids chanting jump. I look up and there’s a 6 foot tall black woman, stark naked, leaning over the wall on the 5th floor chanting and screaming back at the large crowd forming in the atrium. Looking around, I see a solid third of the inside rooms windows, curtains drawn open with residents watching. Not a single person is trying to help. Not one. All are deer-in-the-headlights scared. I yell at the two desk assistants (basically students performing building security who check ids before people can get to the elevators) to dial 911 and clear out the area she might jump into and I immediately sprint up the five floors. I actually recognized who it was when I got further upstairs. It happened to be someone I knew from the girls basketball team as I was a sports broadcaster (among the other 10 things that I did). As I got closer to her and tried to engage her in conversation (as I had been trained to do), it was clear that she was not cognizant of her current situation. It was clear she was not aware of who she was at the time. It was also clear that she was definitely willing to jump and she inched more of her body up the railing and the top of the wall as I got closer. Conversation was not an option, so I just tackled her (being careful to wrap the legs so I wouldn’t go over with her) like I was back playing football in high school. Somehow, we both didn’t get injured. I wrapped her in my coat and rushed her down the stairs and outside as quickly as I could as all of the gawkers wanted a peak at her nakedness.

    I learned an awful lot about the human condition that day. Besides the obvious question of why the crowd wanted her to off herself. I was more mystified how a building which housed 700 students and had at least four Residence Life staff members on duty did not respond to the incident. Regardless if it was my job or not to help her, I would have done it anyway. She is another human.

    Getting back to BRTs thought, this woman had no clue what the heck was going on that day. She had some kind of chemical imbalance that caused temporary schizophrenia apparently.

  251. Very Stable Genius says:

    Jonathan Gaffney
    @JGaffneyUSN

    3 Wives
    No Dog
    2 Impeachments
    1 Failed Coup
    Countless Affairs & Abortions
    $1Billion in Debt
    6 Bankruptcies
    3,500 Lawsuits
    26 documented assaults on women
    5 Deferments
    35,529 lies
    3689k needless deaths
    364 Rounds of Golf
    37 Handicap
    – and no friends.

  252. D-FENS says:

    $15/hr national wage has me thinking…

    If the stock market indexes are a gage, we may have learned from the pandemic that restaurants and bars don’t contribute as much to the economy as we thought.

  253. No One says:

    Libturd,
    I wonder what those terrible people yelling “jump” would have thought of themselves if you hadn’t rescued them from seeing her go splat?
    Did you ever give those scum shit for it? I wonder how many now claim to be great lovers of humanity.

    When people get into self-reinforcing packs like that, they combine to do evil or foolish things that they wouldn’t do themselves. Like political parties or groups. Or like chatgroups buying Ark ETFs.

  254. ExEssex says:

    Boebertarism

  255. Juice Box says:

    Moving trucks on my very quiet street today, two new families moving in.

    The former owners both in Mid-60s moved to Florida, a retired school teacher and a small business owner. They both not want to pay the vig to live in Haughty NJ anymore and managed to get a pandemic price for their home.

  256. Juice Box says:

    Deblasio – NYC will run out of vaccine next week.

    “The city has only administered 42% of the 800,500 doses that it has in its arsenal, according to city data.”

    Does Anyone believe they are going to vaccinate 62,000 people a day for the next week?

    Look at the setup at the Javits. It looks like they could maybe get through 80 people an hour at most.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/de-blasio-nyc-will-run-out-of-vaccines-next-week

  257. Bystander says:

    The dichotomy in this economy is so stark. My buddy works as account exec in investment management firm. He has no CFA, failed several times. He does nothing but travel around and tell existing clients how their assets perfirmed. Lives in haughiest NJ town, 3 kids and wife is stay home snobby type. Always bitching about lack of money and debt load due to country club expectations. Lo and behold, he rented house at on FL coast for last month bc he had “great year”. No traveling and Fed backed performance chart where you can show a straight arrow upward..life is good I guess.

  258. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Avg street investor is a lot smarter than yesterday. Understand this…

    “Or like chatgroups buying Ark ETFs.”

  259. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s the whole point of making your money in the northeast. You go down south and live like a king.

    Your housing is forced savings. Your income is much higher. Then you go and take advantage of a cheap market because you no longer have to worry about income. It’s a beautiful thing.

    Juice Box says:
    January 15, 2021 at 11:59 am
    Moving trucks on my very quiet street today, two new families moving in.

    The former owners both in Mid-60s moved to Florida, a retired school teacher and a small business owner. They both not want to pay the vig to live in Haughty NJ anymore and managed to get a pandemic price for their home.

  260. Phoenix says:

    “Always bitching about lack of money and debt load due to country club expectations.”

    Just wait till she divorces him. SAHM is a slam dunk for a woman. Fact that he travels and is not taking the kids to school, doctors appts, etc, will work against him as well.

    Don’t want to disrupt the children, they need stability, and that is mom. Dad has an unstable job- he travels, that is not good for the children.

    Dad, get back on that plane, fly some more, and make your payments. Your kids are safe and sound in their haughty home with stable mommy. Don’t miss a payment or we will remind you with a no-knock warrant @4am.

  261. Juice Box says:

    “stakeholder capitalism”

    Translation allocation of capital will move away from the legacy economy, it’s no longer about shareholders.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-19/blackrock-s-fink-and-eskom-s-de-ruyter-set-to-speak-nef-update?srnd=new-economy-forum

  262. Phoenix says:

    “That’s the whole point of making your money in the northeast. You go down south and live like a king.”
    (on your N.J. Teachers Pension that is currently in debt over 2 BILLION DOLLARS by yes, you guessed it, the same deadbeats that never paid their bill while they lived here.)

    Remember, it was a teacher that just told you that they live like kings. This is real, first hand, insider information.

  263. Bystander says:

    Phoenix,

    She has threatened it already, numerous times. He has to ensure country club lifestyle otherwise drunken anger outbursts about divorce after kids are raised, still about decade left for youngest. I listen to this twice a year. Guess they will survive another year if they invest in arc funds. I also remember she had bitcoin machine going. Wonder if that paid off. It has been 4 years since they got it.

  264. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I won’t be leaving, Phoenix. That’s for all the people that spend everything they got, and have to move to Florida to survive. That’s why I said forced savings through real estate. If it wasn’t for real estate, these people would never be able to retire. This not only applies to northeast, but also west coast.

    You don’t have to be a teacher to take advantage of the system I described in the post above. That’s why every single state should have the same tax. Don’t allow people to take advantage of the tax system. Pay your share instead of dodging it.

  265. Phoenix says:

    Bystander,
    For me, it’s either a trend, or confirmation bias. I keep vacillating between the two, is all of this mouthy Karen crap just something I am biased about, or is their actually something to it?

    Cameras, video, audio recordings, etc. It’s as if things I never would have thought happening are, like the 2 videos, one in a library where the teacher kicked the little girl, or where in the daycare the woman kicked a child down the stairs. It’s almost like in my head I just looked at women as something pure my whole life, and never understood the evil that lurks inside many of them.

    To me there is enough evidence online to make anything a woman says is suspect, and that the verbiage that they emit should not be considered any more truthful than the other gender.

  266. Phoenix says:

    “Guess they will survive another year if they invest in arc funds.”

    Or invest in ARK funds. Build one and float away.

  267. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Get on the boat before it’s too late, I wouldn’t invest in this if I didn’t truly believe in it. The times they are a changin..

    You want to be in disruptive companies at this time and place. You always talk about pensions…this will pay me better than my pension.

    Phoenix says:
    January 15, 2021 at 1:23 pm
    “Guess they will survive another year if they invest in arc funds.”

    Or invest in ARK funds. Build one and float away.

  268. D-FENS says:

    This whole John Sullivan thing is weird. He was interviewed by CNN as a BLM protester, featured in an Uber commercial, now arrested as a MAGA rioter?

  269. crushednjmillenial says:

    D-Fens on restaurants and bars . . .

    The numbers are something like restaurants are 4% of the US economy, but 8% of jobs. If so, it is true that the restaurant shutdowns were not so bad for GDP, but hurt employment (and lower-income households) in a disproportionate manner.

    Also, there were charts on Wolf Street showing the shift in spending among categories in retail (away from restaurants and toward home supply stores, for example).

  270. crushednjmillenial says:

    NJ vaccination rate . . .

    According to the vaccine tracker, NJ is now in 20th place for percentage of doses used. I’ll take it. It’d be nice to be No. 1, but at least we aren’t in the bottom ten the way we were for a while. Still, it is sad to think of how many lives could have been saved if NJ had a great vaccine rollout from day 1 (Dec. 15).

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

  271. BRT says:

    One of my best friends is bipolar. He started going through crazy loss of reality but was never violent or suicidal. We had to keep our eyes on him when he got that way and looked for signs. When he got manic, he would become an insane workhorse, do the job of 20 people and then crash two weeks later. He literally designed the Verizon fios grid for 3 counties in a week while he was manic. I had to step in and get him to see his doctor. Well, he didn’t tell me he was going to a dermatologist after I got off the phone with him. The dermatologist prescribed some steroidal cream that specifically said not to combine with one of his regular antidepressants. He went into full on berserk mode and we had to commit him. He would have killed himself that day if we weren’t monitoring him. He had to come off that bad reaction and regain a sense of reality. Finally, doctor’s got his meds straight and not a single issue for 15 years now. Maybe more.

  272. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This article is from 2016, but hits the nail on the head.

    ““We’ve focused on disruptive innovation that’s going to play out over a number of years, because millennials have a long time horizon to let these themes play out,” said ARK CEO Catherine Wood.

    The developments might make an older investor, perplexed (if not bothered) by millennial optimism, ask, What’s wrong with the way people have been investing for decades, putting money into core equity and bond asset classes as a means of diversifying their wealth, to protect principal and grow assets?

    “Millennials don’t see the world the same way the baby boomers do, with traditional sector lines and geographic boundaries and style boxes for value and growth,” said Ark’s head of product development, Tom Staudt.

    Take that, Warren Buffett and Jack Bogle and the rest of you “cranky,” traditional portfolio-loving boomers.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/06/millennials-beware-of-this-investing-pitch.html

  273. chicagofinance says:

    Dude…… you are looking in the rear view mirror. Do you understand that January 2021 is her moment? Don’t get sucked in too far.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 15, 2021 at 2:05 pm
    This article is from 2016, but hits the nail on the head.

    ““We’ve focused on disruptive innovation that’s going to play out over a number of years, because millennials have a long time horizon to let these themes play out,” said ARK CEO Catherine Wood.

  274. Juice Box says:

    D-FENS – I posted about John a few days ago. He is a failed Uber Driver and Cyber Security Salesman and overnight journalist.

    He is an opportunist looking to make money a living off BLM, Antifa and in the case of last week the Trump crowd.

    Has his own merchandise too, and his hand out on social media for donations.

    https://www.insurgenceusa.com/store/c9/shop-all-items

    Watch his YouTube stuff and twitter, it’s still up and he is still posting.

    He was dumb enough to talk to the FBI too.

    Gonna be kind of hard to post online from inside the big house.

  275. joyce says:

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/01/cheap-shot-criticism-of-covid-vaccines-for-2m-smokers-before-other-groups-is-false-narrative-murphy-says.html
    ——————————
    There is only one thing Murphy is good at and that is staying on message.

  276. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Chi, I don’t think she is trying to pull a fast one. She really understands the market she is investing in. Better than most…

    “It’s harder for a baby boomer to imagine a world with drone delivery, or a world where cancer, if not totally eliminated, has been turned in to a chronic disease that’s treatable with personalized medicine,” Staudt said. “But millennials know these changes are going to take place in their lifetime, and whether it takes three years or seven years, they have the ability to catch the entire upswing and capitalize on the growth.”

  277. Phoenix says:

    BRT,
    Lucky you were watching. Many don’t like the diagnosis. Many don’t like the way the side effects of the meds. Many like being manic ( for some it’s like a party.).

    A few posters on here have mentioned crazy women they have hooked up with at one time or another. At least some were likely to be bipolar of some sort. Or on something. Or a combo of both.

    Mental health is undertreated and stigmatized. Plus, like other professions, there are cretins who will diagnose for profit. Therapists are like this too. Many therapists are looking for cash, will try to claim your kid needs therapy in order to line their pockets, or will take cash to help you win/fight a custody battle.

    So many in America with no ethics, all out looking for profit at your expense. I wish Musk would spend his money trying to make a lie detector that actually works 100%

  278. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Who’s going to win? The shorts are coming. They didn’t learn their lesson with Tesla..

    “Bearish Bets Against Ark ETFs Surge After ‘Meteoric’ Rally”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-12/bearish-bets-against-ark-etfs-are-surging-after-meteoric-rally

  279. Phoenix says:

    “It’s harder for a baby boomer to imagine a world with drone delivery,”

    Well, maybe not for much longer, as the FAA has cleared this for March of 2021.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9149213/Drones-soon-deliver-prescription-drugs-FAA-loosens-rules-amid-pandemic.html

  280. Phoenix says:

    “It’s harder for a baby boomer to imagine a world with drone delivery,”

    Well, maybe not for much longer, as the FAA has cleared this for March of 2021.

    http://dailym.ai/35JHFQl

  281. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I personally could care less about the short term. I only care about the long term. This is a long time bet on major innovative disruption. I actually hope it gets shot down this year, so I dollar cost avg on the cheap. I’m not collecting for a long time. All I know is disruption is coming, and I want a piece of it.

  282. Phoenix says:

    “All I know is disruption is coming, and I want a piece of it.”

    Don’t worry. You will.

  283. Phoenix says:

    A thanks to all engineers who helped design this camera. The heroes in blue would have never believed you.

    “Woman, 70, is arrested ‘for trying to poison her husband, 63, with boric acid after he caught her on video spiking his coffee with the insecticide’
    Suncha Tinevra, from Queens, charged with attempted manslaughter and assault for allegedly trying to poison her husband and with boric acid
    Robert Baron, 63, went to the police after installing camera in his kitchen and allegedly catching his wife slipping insecticide into coffee pot
    Baron said he had noticed his food tasted odd, he felt ill and tired after meals”

  284. Phoenix says:

    Haha. Lucky Charms.

    “Last year, a Bronx man was also the victim of a suspected boric acid poisoning — carried out by his so-called “lady friend.” The 50-year-old survived the attack and refused to turn his lover in. The powdery chemical has been used before in matrimonial murder attempts across the country.

    In 2015, Andrea Heming copped to sprinkling the substance on her husband’s Lucky Charms and in his energy drinks and whipped cream — because she was tired of having sex with him.

    “I wouldn’t use that much to kill him, but just enough to make him not have an erection,” Heming, of Nevada, told cops. She went on the lam, however, just before her sentencing.”

  285. Hold my beer says:

    Phoenix

    Are you switching to a keurig or nespresso?

  286. Hold my beer says:

    Cat fight GOP Arizona style

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-gop-wants-censure-cindy-222455860.html

    “As chairman of the AZGOP she managed to turn Arizona blue in November for the first time since 1996,” Cindy McCain said of Ward. “Maybe she should be reminded that my husband never lost an Arizona election since his first win in 1982.”

    Mic drop.

  287. Libturd says:

    Go straight to Nespresso. Since we got ours, our Keurig is used more by spiders than us. The generic pods (Bespresso and the like) are just fine and nearly as cheap as K-cups. Their milk frother is a truly amazing invention.

    We do a pot of brewed coffee in the morning and will do Nespresso later in the day when we want or need it. Best of all, cas1nos gave me a free back up Nespresso if the first one dies.

  288. Libturd says:

    ChiFi,

    Let Pumps learn the Nate’s way.

    I more than doubled the market last year too. With much less risk as I will never invest in a company that does not have five years of earnings growth greater than 15% and prefer 20%. Best of all, no 1% finder fee. Investing in a company that mainly puts the pink stuff in attics of new construction homes mainly in developments was crazy disruptive. Trust me. This year, I’m already on fire with a small cap that sells landscaping products and pet supplies. Did I mention, they ALL make money.

  289. Libturd says:

    The Jar Jar arm beat down was hilarious.

    Btw, I am signed up for the vaccine on Tuesday. I give it a 50/50 chance I actually get a vaccination then.

  290. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not for nothing, she has beat the s&p every year since she started her fund.

    She also beat the s&p every year since 2001 at her prior outfit.

    She is a proven winner. For how long now?

  291. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why am I going to take risk picking my own, when she clearly knows what she is doing. You don’t bet that hard on Tesla at her age unless you know wtf you are doing. She risked it all and proved every single naysayer wrong.

    She didn’t just get lucky…she clearly knows what she is doing.

  292. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Isn’t this how a market works? I don’t understand why this is a story. Only 60% of the population even owns property. What do you think is going to happen to the bottom of the population. “The rich get richer and the poor get poorer” has not been around forever for no reason.

    Understand this, and understand it well; labor is getting its a$$ kicked by capital. Do whatever you can to invest, a job is not enough.

    “The pandemic has further expanded the divide between people who are thriving financially and those who are barely hanging on. The stock market continues to soar, enriching wealthy investors, while millions of other Americans are out of work and must rely on unemployment and other benefits.

    A similar divide is happening in the housing market. People who already owned high-end property before the pandemic are seeing their wealth grow as the luxury end of the market booms. Meanwhile, being able to afford a new home is getting further out of reach for those looking to buy in the low- and middle-tiers of the market.”

    https://apple.news/ATVBgdPitQK2MdR3m7I8plQ

  293. AP says:

    Cousin of mine offed himself. Lived in a different state so only saw him once or twice growing up. Got heavy into drugs as a teen and never stopped, in and out of rehab. Made his parents’ lives a living nightmare for a long time.

    Took his own life after getting bounced out of rehab one last time. F’ing sad. Even though we never talked or saw each other, getting the news was one of the most shocking moments I can remember. I pray for his soul, man.

    Fortunately both his older and younger brothers are awesome and ended up ok. One is doctor and the other an IT project manager.

  294. Phoenix says:

    Drugs and alcohol are a funny thing in that some can take them and never get addicted, but others try it one time and are hooked.

    AP sorry to hear about your cousin. Seen plenty of suicides, and worse, plenty of failed suicides where not only do these people have their demons, they are now trapped inside a severely defective body with agonizing physical pain to add to the mental pain they started with.

    You just want to reach in and hug their souls. I have a bad habit, I tend to look at them and think at one time they were a baby, and someone was holding them proudly,taking photographs and celebrating. Then I look at them and wonder how the hell it got to this.

  295. Phoenix says:

    And if you are unfortunate and get locked up for drugs, which many cannot control, you can expect this type of treatment from your heroes in blue.

    “One woman, a 25-year-old who told the medical staff during her intake that she consumed 20 to 30 bags of heroin a day, was not given the medical treatment she was taking to treat her addiction, investigators said. She died by suicide two days after arriving at the jail.

    A 21-year-old woman who was taken in at the jail in February 2017 reported to jail staff she used heroin daily and told them she was suffering from severe psychological distress, anxiety, feelings of hopelessness and paranoia 30 minutes after arriving the jail. The staff did not provide medication-assisted treatment, according to the report.”

    https://www.nj.com/news/2021/01/7-inmates-committed-suicide-at-nj-jail-where-feds-allege-staff-failed-to-provide-help.html

  296. ExEssex says:

    “Chansley left a note on the Senate Chamber dais, where Vice President Mike Pence had been presiding over the session just minutes before, warning ‘it’s only a matter of time, justice is coming.’”

    Prosecutors said that when the FBI questioned Chansley about the meaning of his words, he “went on a lengthy diatribe describing current and past United States political leaders as infiltrators, specifically naming Vice President Mike Pence.”

    “He said that he was able to get into the United States Senate in D.C. ‘by the grace of God.’ Chansley said that he was glad he sat in the Vice President’s chair because Vice President Pence is a child-trafficking traitor,” the filing said.

    Source: CNBC

  297. chicagofinance says:

    Beer: that’s so interesting…… over time, I always thought there was something off with Phoenix. I have often thought in passing that he seemed to be under the influence of boric acid.

    Hold my beer says:
    January 15, 2021 at 3:03 pm
    Phoenix

    Are you switching to a keurig or nespresso?

  298. AP says:

    If this was a real bar, I’d buy the next round, ya : )

  299. AP says:

    This chick is totally my type:

    https://youtu.be/5Nl5zBqXc1o

  300. Phoenix says:

    Boric acid cures Covid.

  301. Bystander says:

    It is too bad that he was a psychopathic a-hole. One of the few issues he could have addressed but he d$cked with doing anything until 6 months ago. Now this feels like a punishment to big tech which Biden will most likely kill.

    “The Trump administration has just published a final rule (or regulation) that will select H-1B candidates this year based upon the wage level in which they are placed. The wage levels are derived from the US Department of Labor data, which qualifies employees based upon a combination of the education and experience required for their job: Level 1 (entry level); Level 2 (qualified); Level 3 (experienced); Level 4 (fully competent). This rule will cause serious impediments for the US businesses if it is allowed to stand.”

  302. Grim says:

    Well look at that

  303. Hold my beer says:

    I for one am shocked.

    He hires only the best.

  304. BRT says:

    Lucky you were watching. Many don’t like the diagnosis. Many don’t like the way the side effects of the meds. Many like being manic ( for some it’s like a party.).

    You’re right. The only reason I knew was because my sister and my grandmother also suffered so I was well versed. He was the happiest mofo in the world at the time. What was more difficult was convincing his parents. Ironically, I ran into his older brother at Lollapalooza that year and we talked for like an hour about how he was acting and how to sell it to his parents. Had we not randomly run into each other, I’m not sure it would have turned out ok.

  305. BRT says:

    The NIH just recommended Ivermectin to treat Covid-19 and also for prophylaxis use. If you didn’t watch the congressional testimonies of the doctors on this subject, several doctors were put out to counter the narrative and studies that this appeared effective. The doctors against it then ran to twitter and CNN to proclaim how nonsensical the doctor’s who were promoting it was. Good thing though, the ministry of truth that is Twitter banned any posts mentioning Ivermectin as a possible treatment and they even went so far as to ban the entire journals that the scientific articles confirming it’s effectiveness appeared in.

    How many lives could have been saved this fall?

  306. BRT says:

    Here’s the AP fact check form Dec 11 on it. I’m having trouble getting it past mod. Maybe Grim is acting as the ministry of truth now!

    C1AIM: The antiparasitic drug ivermectin “has a miracu1ous effectiveness that ob1iterates” the transmission of COVID-19 and wi11 prevent peop1e from getting sick.

    AP’S ASSESSMENT: Fa1se. There’s no evidence ivermectin has been proven a safe or effective treatment against COVID-19.

    THE FACTS: During a Senate hearing Tuesday, a group of doctors touted a1ternative COVID-19 treatments, inc1uding ivermectin and the anti-ma1aria medication hydroxych1oroquine. Medica1 experts have cautioned against using either of those drugs to treat COVID-19. Studies have shown that hydroxych1oroquine has no benefit against the coronavirus and can have serious side effects. No evidence has been shown to prove that ivermectin works against COVID-19.

    Dr. Pierre Kory, a pu1monary and critica1 care specia1ist at Aurora St 1uke’s Medica1 Center in Mi1waukee, described ivermectin as a “wonder d.r.u.g” with immense1y powerfu1 antivira1 and anti-inf1ammatory agents at the hearing before the Senate Home1and Security and Governmenta1 Affairs Committee.

  307. Phoenix says:

    “Maybe Grim is acting as the ministry of truth now!”

    I’m good with that. He is a man of reason, and a great moderator. Makes great liquid refreshments as well.

  308. Juice Box says:

    Pfizer is sitting on at least 50 million does not distributed for other countries. They should send the national guard there.

  309. No One says:

    Pumpkin,
    Jump, jump, jump,
    Into the Ark.
    Borrow as much as you can and put it in all the disruptive winners of the future, as predicted by Catherine Wood.
    (This is sarcasm, not investment advice)

  310. Phoenix says:

    Pumpkin can lose it all.
    He can lose it since he has a State Pension.
    He’s good to go.

    Just like granny. Needs a raise in Social Security, but has plenty of of money to play the slots in Atlantic City from sunup to sundown.

    And now, granny is worried, Social Security is running out, time again to raise the age and steal more money from GenZ and the Millennials for her own needs. Already stole 2 houses from 2 ex husbands along with their pensions and life insurance policies.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/how-raising-the-social-security-retirement-age-could-affect-benefits.html

  311. Juice box says:

    Vaccine alert- cattle call international school PTown go line up no questioned asked just say you smoke. 1000 pokes a day just show up and wait in the long line for a few hours.

    This is a verified tip, from people I know.There might be an angry mess next
    Week when they run out everywhere.

  312. chicagofinance says:

    Lay off the boric acid man……. no good will come of it.

    Phoenix says:
    January 15, 2021 at 7:48 pm
    Pumpkin can lose it all.
    He can lose it since he has a State Pension.
    He’s good to go.

    Just like granny. Needs a raise in Social Security, but has plenty of of money to play the slots in Atlantic City from sunup to sundown.

    And now, granny is worried, Social Security is running out, time again to raise the age and steal more money from GenZ and the Millennials for her own needs. Already stole 2 houses from 2 ex husbands along with their pensions and life insurance policies.

  313. Phoenix says:

    You need it, you got it. Now you just have to decide which you are closer to, swine or cattle.

    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/agrilabs-agri-mectin-1-injection-50-ml

  314. No One says:

    Anyone have an opinion on black cumin oil as treatment? There’s a study out but all the scientists behind it are Pakistani, and I haven’t heard anyone run with it.
    The downside is that my subsequent burps after taking black seed oil capsules taste like cumin.

  315. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yea, she has that much pull on the market. Used to be easy to mock her, but now, not so much.

    I was wrong on Tesla. I was wrong on Bitcoin. She was not. I’m going to put my money on her rather than myself. She is good at picking high risk innovative stocks. She clearly knows what she is doing. She sees the future through a very clear lens.

    No One says:
    January 15, 2021 at 7:38 pm
    Pumpkin,
    Jump, jump, jump,
    Into the Ark.
    Borrow as much as you can and put it in all the disruptive winners of the future, as predicted by Catherine Wood.
    (This is sarcasm, not investment advice)

  316. Phoenix says:

    But chi,
    It’s such a good trip.

  317. chicagofinance says:

    The Story Behind the Market’s Hottest Funds

    Thematic ETFs allow investors to bet on trends and concepts—but their narrow focus increases their risk

    By Jason Zweig
    Jan. 15, 2021 10:00 am ET

    Investors used to love “story stocks.” Now they love story ETFs.

    A story stock is driven not by earnings or assets but by a simple, alluring narrative: a dynamic new boss, dazzling technology or customers going ga-ga for its products. A story ETF is an exchange-traded fund that invests not in an entire market or single sector but rather in a concept or trend.

    You’re probably better off buying a story ETF than a story stock; at least the fund is somewhat diversified. But story ETFs carry their own risks.

    Often called thematic ETFs, these funds cut across industries, trying to capitalize on ideas like alternative energy, cloud computing or 3-D printing. Others buy stocks that could benefit as more people work from home, demand gender or racial diversity, or lavish money on their pets.

    Assets in these funds have grown at an average of 45% annually over the past three years, says William Baun of Fuse Research Network in Needham, Mass.

    In the fourth quarter of 2020 alone, thematic ETF assets shot up 78% to $104 billion, according to Global X Management Co. LLC, which offers several such funds.

    One reason is performance. Invesco WilderHill Clean Energy ETF gained 205% last year. ARK Genomic Revolution ETF returned 181%, and its four sibling funds each went up at least 100%.

    In addition, the pandemic undercut the traditional belief that stocks in the same sector tend to move together, says Jay Jacobs, head of research and strategy at Global X. Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd. and Amazon.com Inc. are both consumer discretionary stocks, but Norwegian’s shares sank 56% in 2020 while Amazon shot up 76%. Meanwhile, ETFs pursuing the online-shopping theme across several industries were up between 74% and 123% last year.

    In 2020, with investors stuck at home, trends hit home. “People now understand themes like cloud computing and collaborative software in ways they might not have appreciated before,” says Scott Helfstein, head of thematic investing at ProShare Advisors LLC in Bethesda, Md. “All of a sudden, here they were. It was like, ‘Invest in what you know.’”

    Investors pursuing themes that seem obvious should remember a few principles that ought to be even more obvious.

    Investing in only a slice of the market, instead of the entire market, lowers your diversification and raises your risk. Management fees can be at least 10 times higher than on ETFs that track the stock market as a whole. If a theme appeals intuitively to you, chances are it appeals to millions of other investors too, making a fund’s underlying holdings more expensive.

    A new study by several finance professors finds that, on average, such ETFs hold only about one-quarter as many stocks as do broad-based funds. Looking at more than 1,000 ETFs of all types between 1993 and 2019, the researchers found that thematic funds underperformed the overall stock market by about 0.5 percentage points per month, adjusted for risk.

    They also found that these funds tend to launch months after a theme has gotten hot—amid a crescendo of media hype and stocks earning eye-popping returns.

    It takes several months to launch an ETF, according to industry executives. Between the time a compelling theme emerges and an ETF hits the market, the stocks that play off that trend can become dangerously overvalued. That means fund managers are often “packaging dreams,” says Itzhak Ben-David, one of the study’s authors.

    In other words, investors have a natural tendency to buy at exactly the wrong time, and these funds can make that even worse.

    “That is a risk,” says Robert D. Nestor, president of Rafferty Asset Management LLC, which manages several thematic ETFs under the Direxion name. “It would be disingenuous to say otherwise.”

    Quirky rules of portfolio construction can also crop up. At the U.S. Vegan Climate ETF, the size of any single stock position is limited to 4.5%. Yet Tesla Inc., the fund’s largest holding, has mushroomed to 7.9% of total assets.

    The 4.5% limit is enforced twice a year, when the fund rebalances, or adjusts the size of its holdings, each June and December.

    In its semi-annual rebalancing, the Vegan fund reduces any positions that are above 4.5%. It uses the proceeds of such sales to buy more of its other top holdings, says Claire Smith, chief executive of the fund’s adviser, Beyond Investing LLC.

    That could concentrate the fund in a handful of winners over time. The policy would come under review if it ends up making the fund too top-heavy, she says.

    Overall, story ETFs are more fun than plain old index funds that hold everything in the market—but riskier, too.

    In years past, “people might get a stock tip from a taxi driver,” says Deborah Fuhr, founder of ETFGI, a fund-research firm in London. “Now, most people can have their own view on a theme.”

    These ETFs are “the new version of stock tips for the new world,” she says.

    Well, I’ve got a tip for you. If you think you’ve spotted a theme that other investors haven’t fully appreciated yet, ask yourself how come there’s already a thematic fund for it.

  318. chicagofinance says:

    Have you invested in the Black Cumin Oil ETF? The ticker is: BURP

    No One says:
    January 15, 2021 at 8:04 pm
    Anyone have an opinion on black cumin oil as treatment? There’s a study out but all the scientists behind it are Pakistani, and I haven’t heard anyone run with it.
    The downside is that my subsequent burps after taking black seed oil capsules taste like cumin.

  319. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Saturday night live material. This article is hilarious.

    “Millionaire taking up the life of plumber, gardener, and carpenter on their 2.4 million house”

    “I had two pent­houses in Man­hat­tan but I don’t miss it,’’ he said. “The last time I went back the only thing I could see were am­bu­lances and peo­ple walk­ing around like the liv­ing dead. It made me re­al­ize how lucky I am to be liv­ing in a place where I get to see deer, hawks and rab­bits.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-these-urban-refugees-country-living-isnt-quite-second-nature-11610569831?st=3d2yvzv5yujf42d&reflink=article_imessage_share

  320. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ahh, so we are acknowledging that the market is indeed changing. This isn’t Buffett’s market, hence, why he is getting slammed.

    “Well, I’ve got a tip for you. If you think you’ve spotted a theme that other investors haven’t fully appreciated yet, ask yourself how come there’s already a thematic fund for it.”

  321. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How many years of hate did we hear for Tesla? Short it was the smart play, right? Screw that, these people like woods see the world in a different way than you and I. Why can’t we acknowledge that she is exceptional at what she does. She is a unicorn. An anomaly. No one can do what she does.

    I’m not going against someone like her. It’s like betting against musk. It’s a dumb game to play.

  322. Fabius Maximus says:

    Pig Meds? I suppose the Preppers like Nom will scoop it all up to stockpile with their Aquatic Antibiotics.

  323. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim, nice to see you are finally meeting the Bacon demand.

  324. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    The comments were funnier than the article.

  325. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phoenix,

    The irony of a guy living in a 2.4 million dollar house romanticizing about doing his own plumbing. I agree with you. Can’t make this stuff up.

  326. BRT says:

    How many years of hate did we hear for Tesla? Short it was the smart play, right? Screw that, these people like woods see the world in a different way than you and I. Why can’t we acknowledge that she is exceptional at what she does. She is a unicorn. An anomaly. No one can do what she does.

    I’m not going against someone like her. It’s like betting against musk. It’s a dumb game to play.

    Do you honestly thing this woman is the only one all in on tesla? Millenials have been buying the stock like crazy for 6 straight years. I decided to not try to short it when I wanted to because I came to the conclusion that I shouldn’t try to short a cult.

  327. Fabius Maximus says:

    Donnies last gasp with the MyPillow guy.
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1350241375846092800

    I have a friend in DC who says its locked up tight already. He wanted to take his kids down to the Capitol to try and give some context. Couldn’t get anywhere near. I can already hear the complaints from a few in here on the restrictions that are going to come out of this. Remember the complaints when the TSA was spun up and you couldn’t walk your family to the gate at the airport. There will be some draconian measures to come out of this. Lay the blame for that at Donnies door.

    One intersting thing to note is that ny 2A friends in NJ are screaming to anyone who can hear them not to go anywhere near Trenton. So there is one good benefit to NJs Gun Control Laws.

  328. The Great Pumpkin says:

    BRT,

    Bingo!! New generation of investor. You go against it at your own risk.

    Understand, they put idea and impact on human society before profit. That’s why lib will never understand this. It took me a long time to understand this, but I do.

  329. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    Yeah. Doing something for fun in your house is one thing. Doing it somewhere else is another.
    I’ve done plumbing. Pulling 500 lb boilers up crumbling stairs out of a musty crawlspace.

    That guy was having an org asm over changing a faucet. Woooooh.

  330. joyce says:

    Agreed. The NIH doesn’t know what it’s talking about.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    January 15, 2021 at 8:37 pm
    Pig Meds? I suppose the Preppers like Nom will scoop it all up to stockpile with their Aquatic Antibiotics.

  331. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I went against bitcoin, and looked like an a$$hole. I was wrong. People like woods are amazing to understand the world better than someone that is 25 years younger like myself.

  332. Phoenix says:

    Some important Covid info. For laypeople.

    https://youtu.be/IiKXOd95URk?t=235

  333. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lol…love your comments. You really hit the nail on the head. I wish I wasn’t a teacher, so you would have a beer with me. Understand, I work in the ghetto and actually care after 16 years. My life is good, but my career is not for the faint of heart. I could have killed it somewhere else, but god put me in this area for a reason. Maybe because I am so full of passion and never give up. These kids need that in their life. I provide it, to my full extent. I try to relate my life, and I try to help them with money. Explain to them that there is a smart way(hard way) and a bad way (easy way). I do my part for the future. The kids love me. I don’t know for how long, but I hope I can keep it up.

    Phoenix says:
    January 15, 2021 at 8:51 pm
    Pumps,
    Yeah. Doing something for fun in your house is one thing. Doing it somewhere else is another.
    I’ve done plumbing. Pulling 500 lb boilers up crumbling stairs out of a musty crawlspace.

    That guy was having an org asm over changing a faucet. Woooooh.

  334. Libturd says:

    “I decided to not try to short it when I wanted to because I came to the conclusion that I shouldn’t try to short a cult.”

    Same here! I still salivate at every Musk’s failed promise.

  335. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    I’d have a beer with you. I’m not a snob.

  336. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m competitive by nature. I was the first of 3 children. Had to fight for that attention.

    On suicide, one of my best friends had their dad hang themself. He left his wife to care for two kids. It’s wrong.

    My dad had mental health issues. He was diagnosed being bi polar. He has lost it all and has not killed him self. He has never held his grand daughter, my child, in his hands. Don’t tell me I’m not empathic. Taking your life is bs. Weak. Looking for the easy way out. F that!!

  337. BRT says:

    Listen, I think Musk and more importantly, his employees are fantastically talented. They do amazing things and make amazing vehicles. They are great innovators. I just don’t buy the business model. Maybe I’m wrong.

  338. Phoenix says:

    “Same here! I still salivate at every Musk’s failed promise.”

    I’m not fond of how Musk takes advantage of Govt money, but why salivate on someone’s failures?

    Plus for me I’m a fan of science. He is smart in that area.

  339. Libturd says:

    I turned 50 this year, so I went for a whole battery of tests. I figured it was time for a tuneup. Though still morbidly obese, my blood pressure was good, my triglycerides were a bit high, (mostly from lack of exercise due to Covid, especially the loss of ice hockey to my weekly regiment) and my liver thing (forgot the name of the test) is slightly above range. So I see this really great Indian gastroenterologist who guarantees me my number will return to midrange if I take a combo of vitamin D, E, Fish oil, turmeric and lecithin. This sounds like a pain in the ass, but I already do the fish oil and D. What’s another two vitamins. Well he says the Costco fish oil I am taking is fine, but I need to take like four of them a day. So he suggest a script fish oil called Vascepa. Now I knew my insurance wouldn’t cover it because they wouldn’t cover the salt the D needed when he was recovering from chemo. That was $90 for about 100 salt packets (which is what they were). I really should have just run to the Golden Arches and asked for a few packets, but Gator wouldn’t let me. Well I go to get the script filled and sure enough BCBS rejects it. The cost? $1,000. For fish oil! I guess I’m going to take four of those horse capsules a day. I also got robbed for my turmeric. They had some at Costco for $28 for 90 days worth claiming to be $8 off. I didn’t comparison shop and paid double what they should have cost. Then I went online, looked at the price of empty gelcaps and pure turmeric and each pill should cost under 3.5 cents. This is really consumer fraud. I’m probably the first person to notice it.

    I plan to call the fish oil company tomorrow and will play the cancer card. They claim you can get it for as little as $9 for half a year supply based on need.

    Our country really is a mess.

  340. BRT says:

    Apparently Burry is short Tesla.

  341. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I was in the same boat. Look at how ark categorizes Tesla…not as a car company, but energy. They are way ahead of us. Ark team is no joke. They truly are the leaders in picking disruptive innovation. They don’t even focus on sectors…they focus on themes. Revolutionary stuff.

    BRT says:
    January 15, 2021 at 9:07 pm
    Listen, I think Musk and more importantly, his employees are fantastically talented. They do amazing things and make amazing vehicles. They are great innovators. I just don’t buy the business model. Maybe I’m wrong.

  342. The Great Pumpkin says:

    He probably will never be right again.

    BRT says:
    January 15, 2021 at 9:15 pm
    Apparently Burry is short Tesla.

  343. Phoenix says:

    Better hurry up if you want to grow anything yourself. Ol’ Billy wants the dirt.

    Bill Gates is now the biggest owner of FARMLAND in the US, after buying up 242,000 acres across 18-states from Washington to Florida

  344. Libturd says:

    I’m wrong about Vasepa. It is a drug. I think I like the mega fish oil intake better.

  345. Phoenix says:

    Lib,
    Oatmeal. Lay off sugar and alcohol if you have a fatty liver. (Fatty liver is from sugar intake).
    Can’t go to hockey. Walk. Go to parks. Hike.

    Vascepa? Patented? There is the problem. Look into eliminating them. Research has been done about doing this.

    Lying and saying you have cancer. Guess that’s an option.

  346. Phoenix says:

    Or you can eat the oily fish. Suck down a can of sardines a day.

  347. Bystander says:

    Hey Lib,

    Thanks for home insurance tip. I tried l*ndingtr*e (same as valuep*nguin i guess) but did not work much. Kind of verified that probably won’t save much unless I bundle auto. Local guy came back with best bundle quote, like you mentioned. Probably save $500 total..cool

  348. Libturd says:

    There’s only so much you can save on the home and car insurance unfortunately.

    The golden egg will be finding a way to get reward points or cash back paying for your mortgage.

    Phoenix,
    I’ll be okay come the spring. Life is just to sedentary for me between the winter and Covid. As for sugar, it’s from the empty carbs, which I will have to stop eating.

  349. Libturd says:

    And By. It ALL adds up. Take those savings and invest them wisely. That’s how you get ahead. TIME is only your friend if you have accumulated wealth. Without it, it’s your enemy.

    When you get to the point where you make more money off your investments than off your labor, you’ll know you are on the right track. Try to get there at the youngest age you can. There is nothing more stress relieving than financial security.

  350. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lib,

    I’m the opposite, I cant handle Fish Oil, it just repeats. I add lecithin to my cereal in the morning and drink at least a cup of turmeric and ginger tea a day. You can get Turmeric in most ethnic grocers. Just slice and go.

  351. Fabius Maximus says:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-says-u-k-coronavirus-variant-could-become-predominant-strain-n1254392?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_lw

    Question for the Hive Vaccine experts. Are these two current vaccines going to cover the variants or is this going to be like the flu vaccine where they guess the variant and if you miss “Oh Well!”

  352. BRT says:

    I’ve been on fish oil for my joints for years. Works wonders. Also solved my eczema.

    When I went back to school, I started a regiment of Quercitin, Zinc, Vitamin D. I figured, I’d go Tumeric as a natural antibiotic. I just add it to a lot of my food. I ain’t paying for a cheap yellow spice. Chicken, rice. There’s also a great recipe from Marc Vetri’s book, a Tumeric foccacia. You know, Rutt’s Hut relish is loaded with it? Haha. Those Rippers will negate any positive health effects from that relish tho.

    I did have an infection that survived 3 rounds of the most powerful antibiotics. It was some superbug. I eliminated it by rubbing tumeric on it and sealing it in with pure shea butter.

  353. Libturd says:

    Keep in mind, if you cook the turmeric, you kill it’s medicinal properties.

  354. ExEssex says:

    Jamba Juice serves a great Tumeric smoothie.

  355. Phoenix says:

    “It was some superbug. I eliminated it by rubbing tumeric on it and sealing it in with pure shea butter.”

    Wow. Didn’t know it cured the clap. ;-)

  356. BRT says:

    Lib, there’s a tradeoff. From what I’ve read, cooking it actually increases the antioxidants. Some compounds not available in it’s raw form are released. Also, most cooking (30 min) loses approximately 85% of the curcumin. But, it’s one of those spices you can go heavy on so I’m sure you get a healthy dose. 10 minute cooking loses even less.

  357. BRT says:

    The immune response from your body is a broad spectrum of responses. Multiple site mutations still allow the body to recognize it. It is possible that the effectiveness could drop from the 95% to something like 75% (just a random guess) with enough mutations. Influenza is much more mutagenic. And moreover, its not so much that they “miss”. The influenza vaccine usually has a much lower effectiveness in comparison.

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