C19 Open Discussion Week 46b

From CNBC:

Yellen says U.S. must ‘act big’ on next coronavirus relief package

Janet Yellen, U.S. President-elect Joe Biden’s nominee to run the Treasury Department, will tell the Senate Finance Committee on Tuesday that the government must “act big” with its next coronavirus relief package.

Biden, who will be sworn into office on Wednesday, outlined a $1.9 trillion stimulus package proposal last week, saying bold investment was needed to jump-start the economy and accelerate the distribution of vaccines to bring the virus under control.

“Neither the president-elect, nor I, propose this relief package without an appreciation for the country’s debt burden. But right now, with interest rates at historic lows, the smartest thing we can do is act big,” Yellen, a former Federal Reserve chair, said in a prepared opening statement for her hearing before the committee.

“I believe the benefits will far outweigh the costs, especially if we care about helping people who have been struggling for a very long time,” she said in the statement, which was obtained by Reuters.

The proposed aid package includes $415 billion to bolster the U.S. response to the virus and the rollout of Covid-19 vaccines, some $1 trillion in direct relief to households, and roughly $440 billion for small businesses and communities particularly hard hit by the pandemic.

Many Americans would receive stimulus payments of $1,400, which would be on top of the $600 checks approved in a pandemic relief bill passed by Congress last month. Supplemental unemployment insurance would also increase to $400 a week from the current $300 a week, and it would be extended to September.

In her prepared testimony, Yellen also says the U.S. economy must be rebuilt “so that it creates more prosperity for more people and ensures that American workers can compete in an increasingly competitive global economy.”

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377 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 46b

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    First …

  2. dentss dunnigan says:

    Welcome …Mr President …

  3. Hold my beer says:

    Doh

  4. grim says:

    Yellen doesn’t seem impressed with Biden’s big package…

  5. grim says:

    At what point are we going to have a serious discussion about smarter use of the limited vaccine we have, by specifically not vaccinating those who have tested positive for COVID recently? Smarter targeting of vaccine candidates to curtail spread and not just focus on reducing mortality?

    Giving the dose to an 80 year old in assisted living may reduce mortality, but is likely irrelevant in reducing spread.

    Giving the dose to a 20 year old grocery worker will likely reduce spread, and thus reduce mortality longer term.

    Should we specifically target potential super spreaders? Is a morality-based allocation system simply flawed here? Is it actually more equitable from an outcomes perspective, if more vaccine is allocated to regions of higher population density?

    I’m sure there is an epidemiologist that’s done the math to prove we’re doing it all wrong.

  6. Juice Box says:

    Scientists have been saying that the coronavirus will resemble the common cold, meaning it will be impossible to stop as it continually mutates. The vaccine only give you a 95% chance of not dying. There is no study yet confirming the vaccine will stop the spread of a respiratory virus between people who have been vaccinated. The theory is you get infected and have a faster immune response where your body clears the virus before it can replicate enough to kill you, that does not means you cannot be shedding it in your cough, sneeze or other body fluids etc while this infection is occurring.

    It may take years before we find out, and now they are saying maybe booster shots every 6 months to a year. We don’t know if it is seasonal like the flu, it appears so anecdotally but no hard science yet.

  7. BRT says:

    At what point are we going to have a serious discussion about smarter use of the limited vaccine we have, by specifically not vaccinating those who have tested positive for COVID recently? Smarter targeting of vaccine candidates to curtail spread and not just focus on reducing mortality?

    You can’t. The instant Rand Paul brought up in Congress, the idea that people who have recovered have natural immunity, he was labeled by the national press a “science denier”.

    This is a real shame given that antibody studies back in May seemed to confirm that we had 20% of the population already exposed and recovered. Herd immunity could be achieved a lot faster if we vaccinated those that haven’t tested positive first.

  8. Juice box says:

    Even our dumb targeting where we carpet bomb the population, it will be a while before we find out that we can eradicate this virus like we did with Polio.

    It may be we need booster or even designer shots annually, and even then there will be the 1% who still do not survive the infection.People still get sick and die from the FLU even with the vaccine.

  9. BRT says:

    Juice, this virus is going to be a nothing burger in 4 to 5 years. Estimates show that 50% of the population have no symptoms at all. Also, from the limited reinfection cases we’ve observed, people went from symptomatic the 1st time to asymptomatic the second time. Once the virus is no longer “novel”, the danger rapidly declines. 1st reason being, once people have fought it off, the immune system can easily deactivate subsequent mutations. That’s why the original polio vaccine is still effective on mutations of the disease today. The second being, viruses mutate to become less lethal over time. This thing is already non-lethal to over 99% of the population.

    The under 20 crowd is barely affected at all by this thing. Let’s say they get exposed to it 4 or 5 times throughout their k-12 life. Maybe even more. Their body will have dismantled it god knows how many times prior to them ever hitting the age of concern.

    The reality is, if we get people over 60 vaccinated, the emergency is over.

  10. Juice Box says:

    Yellen recognizes the gluttony in terms of what the government is doing, never paying down debt only increasing it exponentially.

    She sees Biden’s bailout for the state and local governments. Hundreds of billions borrowed and given to the states and towns and schools to balance their budgets. This is not a capital expense and will create no new jobs, green or otherwise.,it will only carry them another year.

  11. BRT says:

    It was taboo just a few years ago to suggest the state governments get bailed out. Now, for the ones that need it, it’s a necessity. Basically, we have instantaneously become just like the EU, but we never had a charter on rules about running up massive state debts. It’s not like countries in the EU didn’t cheat on that one right out of the gate though.

  12. Grim says:

    There is no study yet confirming the vaccine will stop the spread of a respiratory virus between people who have been vaccinated.

    Sure, no study, but it’s widely believed that this will absolutely be the case. Viral load is highly correlated with transmission for most all viruses.

  13. Grim says:

    Initial studies out of Israel indicate this is absolutely the case.

    Israel now working and sharing data directly with manufacturers.

  14. Juice Box says:

    No hard science behind any of it. I did read the anecdote from the doctor before I posted.

    You got your shot now Grim, and a second one in a few weeks, are you going to start walking around without a mask?

    Keep your mask on forever, stay in lockdown, no birthday parties, no social gatherings no sports for children or you will be shamed, cancelled, arrested and fined.

    We shall see who will be denying the science in a few months after the vaccine has been rolled out and 70% of those 16 and older can no longer spread the virus. The children however won’t be vaccinated this year, so we may never come out of lockdown.

  15. BRT says:

    If you’ve been out and about, a large portion of the population has completely quit on any safety measures. This will only get larger as people keep getting vaccinated. You have the governor of New York and mayor of Chicago doing a complete 180 last week saying we need to open up ASAP. What changed all of the sudden?

  16. Juice Box says:

    Here is the official guidance from the CDC about those that have tested positive for the antibody against Covid-19 in their systems, whether it because they recovered or had the vaccine.

    1) You are not immune. “You should continue to protect yourself and others since you could get infected with the virus again.”

    2) Wear your mask forever. “We do not know how much protection the antibodies may provide or how long this protection may last.”

    So 100 days starts tomorrow folks. To meet 100 million vaccinations in 100 days we need to vaccinate a million a day. We are nowhere near that and we do not have enough production lines running in the USA.

    There is a huge stockpile now stored at Pfizer and Moderna manufacturing facilities here in the USA. Only problem is it was made for other countries and is being shipped out as we speak.

    Defense production act. Take those 35, 000 National Guard and police now guarding monuments and send them to get the vaccine and distribute it. If we can mobilize to defend concrete and stone we can mobilize to vaccinate people.

  17. Juice Box says:

    Am I the only one wondering if Pam Anderson is going to trade sleeping with Trump for an Assange pardon?

  18. crushednjmillenial says:

    I disagree with restricting the vaccine to people who have previously survived/passed Covid.

    In an ideal world, of course, we would do this. However, it seems that any restrictions on WHO can receive the vaccine just leads to unreasonable delays in administering the vaccine. I favor making the vaccine available to anyone who wants it, then pressuring the manufacturers to produce as much as quickly as possible.

    Furthermore, if money is an issue at any juncture of the supply chain: procurement of raw materials ->manufacture ->shipping -> storing -> administering, then the US Govt has virtually unlimited funds to meet this. We are about to pass another $1.9T in Covid stimulus (this is equivalent to 1/40th or so of global GDP), the fastest-possible ramp-up of a vaccine distribution supply chain just simply must cost a small fraction of this.

  19. Grim says:

    India is not permitting export of vaccine.

    Serum Institute – the hardest production capacity in the world, has been committed to domestic India production.

  20. Grim says:

    Building a new vax plant in the US?

    The zoning board meetings alone will take months.

  21. BRT says:

    In an ideal world, of course, we would do this. However, it seems that any restrictions on WHO can receive the vaccine just leads to unreasonable delays in administering the vaccine. I favor making the vaccine available to anyone who wants it, then pressuring the manufacturers to produce as much as quickly as possible.

    It should have just been by age. First 2 weeks, anyone over 70. Every additional two weeks, go down 5 years. It had be rationed based on need on some level. What we initially heard in November was “nursing homes first, seniors in January”. That made perfect sense. Then, the technocrats got involved.

    The problem is, you have a bunch of “problem solvers” that never solved a problem in their life tackling the problem. If you saw the Stanford Medical school hospital, they were the worst offenders. They were on TV touting their ultra complex algorithm and how smart they were. Somehow, out of their black box, all the hospital admins working from home were the very first while all the residents were left out!

    I wonder if anyone’s opinions on government run healthcare have shifted during this 1 year debacle.

  22. Juice Box says:

    The new Clown car is starting to filling up.

    So the plan announced on Friday is 100 million shots in 100 days contains 100 new Federal Vacc Centers to be setup with the help of the FEMA and the National Guard in the first month of Biden’s presidency.

    I gather they are going to confiscate the vacc shipments? How else will the Feds get them?

    Cuomo said on the news he told Pfizer bypass the FEDs and deal with him directly. He sent a letter to that effect yesterday to the CEO of Pfizer.

  23. Juice Box says:

    Mod Mod Mod trying again.

    The new Clown car is starting to filling up.

    So the plan announced on Friday is 100 million sh*ots in 100 days contains, 100 new Federal Vacc Centers to be setup with the help of the FEMA and the National Guard in the first month of Biden’s presidency.

    I gather they are going to confis*cate the vacc shipments? How else will the Feds get them?

    Cuomo said on the news he told Pfi*zer bypass the FEDs and deal with him directly. He sent a letter to that effect yesterday to the CEO of Pfi*zer.

  24. Juice Box says:

    Cuomo’s letter sent yesterday, basically F everyone else, Pfizer is a NY company give us the vaccine now.

    https://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/governor.ny.gov/files/atoms/files/Pfizer_Letter_to_Dr_Bourla_2021.pdf

  25. Chicago says:

    The occupant in the White House.

    BRT says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:57 am
    If you’ve been out and about, a large portion of the population has completely quit on any safety measures. This will only get larger as people keep getting vaccinated. You have the governor of New York and mayor of Chicago doing a complete 180 last week saying we need to open up ASAP. What changed all of the sudden?

  26. Chicago says:

    Never end a sentence with a preposition.

    Juice Box says:
    January 19, 2021 at 10:16 am
    Cuomo’s letter sent yesterday, basically F everyone else, Pfizer is a NY company give us the vaccine now.

    https://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/governor.ny.gov/files/atoms/files/Pfizer_Letter_to_Dr

  27. Chicago says:

    Isn’t Vax one of the James Bond villains circa Roger Moore

  28. Juice Box says:

    Speaking of the Permit process.

    Elon is not messing around. Giga Texas to be opened Phase 1 on May 1st. That is a five million sq ft production facility on 2,000 acres from the ground up in less than a year, as construction started at the end of July 2020.

    That would be impossible in New Jersey or California.

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1351044768030142464

  29. Bystander says:

    No One,

    Did her unemployed, artist husband also pay into Social Security? He also took benefits including Medicare for much of his late life. That is the problem with conservative base. You believe in concrete ideals written in two old books, where the person who extoles the idea can’t even remotely follow the basic principles (Rand, Falwell) etc. I don’t care really care about the relationship so point taken. Still, it is foolish to use that against the other side. The Big book of Bad ideas says it is wrong and your side loves to create restrictive policy based on that book.
    I really wish we could drop the b&llshit and focus on problems. It sounds nice to read quotes from books on how things should work in fantasy. Cutting tax brackets is seen as a Randian win in R dream world while then quickly hit yes when approving billions more on pork / govt expenditures.

    “After massively overpaying for the social security program that I’m against, I also plan to accept the pittance I might get.
    As for cuckoldry, perhaps you’re more expert than me. But I notice when strong leftist women have affairs or open marriages, it’s deemed “empowering” and brave, “European” or “grown up”. Why the double standard for a woman who never pretended to live by the Bible? Did not Dems plan in 2016 to elect a woman president who spent decades in an open marriage?”

  30. Juice Box says:

    Giga Texas – 6 month time lapse as of yesterday. Site was announced July 202o.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anr5AwLmYNM

  31. Chicago says:

    Grim: Any truth to the rumor that one of the COVID shot’s side effects is that it increases the size of your c0ck 2”?

  32. BRT says:

    Cutting tax brackets is seen as a Randian win in R dream world while then quickly hit yes when approving billions more on pork / govt expenditures.

    Ok, so let’s change the dream and unify both sides by eliminating pork/gov expenditures.

  33. leftwing says:

    Popped in to say I got jabbed. Moderna.

    “Giving the dose to an 80 year old in assisted living may reduce mortality, but is likely irrelevant in reducing spread.”

    Grim, forgot which jurisdiction (NY IIRC) but yesterday’s news had the first LTC resident getting her second jab…103 years old……SMH. I mean, even if she were my own grandmother, just don’t…..

    “At what point are we going to have a serious discussion about smarter use of the limited vaccine we have…”

    There is no serious discussion anymore…anyone questioning the current orthodoxy is shouted down with insults, ad hominem attacks, emotion, and accusations. I mean look at your own blog man, how it has deteriorated. And this is placid compared to MSM, social media platforms, and even our Congress….

    “It was taboo just a few years ago to suggest the state governments get bailed out…Basically, we have instantaneously become just like the EU…”

    And NJ is Italy…good real estate, good Italian food, and entirely incompetent fiscally.

  34. leftwing says:

    “BRT says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:57 am
    If you’ve been out and about, a large portion of the population has completely quit on any safety measures. This will only get larger as people keep getting vaccinated. You have the governor of New York and mayor of Chicago doing a complete 180 last week saying we need to open up ASAP. What changed all of the sudden?”

    I believe the second line associated with your post answers the last…..

  35. leftwing says:

    “So 100 days starts tomorrow folks. To meet 100 million vaccinations in 100 days we need to vaccinate a million a day. We are nowhere near that and we do not have enough production lines running in the USA.”

    Not true.

    We broke through 1 million vaccinations on 1/15. Even the seven day rolling average is 800k.

    C’mon man….given everything you know about the Party do you think the Dems would set an aspirational target or one where the fix was already in?

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

  36. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Can we get rid of Fauci? He’s been an arm chair QB, willingly duplicitous, ivory tower egghead since day one. Tells you either bullshlt or what you already know. He’s effectively contributed nothing to the process since the very beginning except disinformation or empirical data. I hope trump cans his ass.

  37. BRT says:

    I’d rather live in Italy than New Jersey

  38. BRT says:

    There is no serious discussion anymore…anyone questioning the current orthodoxy is shouted down with insults, ad hominem attacks, emotion, and accusations. I mean look at your own blog man, how it has deteriorated. And this is placid compared to MSM, social media platforms, and even our Congress….

    Ever since Chamath went off on facebook algorithms, I just did a few hours of research and it all made sense as to why people have deteriorated so badly. I’ve been saying for years that the internet has collectively lowered the IQ of the populace but when you understand how these media sites work, it’s obvious. What irks me is that you cannot present facts and data and change people’s mind or even enlighten them. Many, don’t even want to entertain an idea outside of their bubble.

    Yesterday, with my kids on the playground, I sat at the bench and listened to two guys playing tennis complaining about the current state of affairs from their perspective. I like to listen to their beliefs as an outsider. All I hear is the echo chamber’s “thoughts of the week” that get plastered through the entire internet.

    As I said last week, I’ve never heard of Parler in my life prior to the capitol building riots. But I’ve heard from everyone why it’s good or bad, despite the fact that they probably never heard of it either.

  39. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    To start vaccinating in those number you are going to have to start CCP style forced vaccinations.

    Of course one party authoritarianism is idyllic for the left. Tracking and penalizing those who don’t vaccinate would grease the skids for all the other social engineering plans they have in the works.

  40. BRT says:

    Fauci is a government face for PR. He’s hardly the scientific wizard that people want him to be. He’s said a ton of things that were wrong and he’s not even able to discuss things in heavy detail. I can tell the guy gets briefed on things and doesn’t actually read the literature. If he were serious, they would be doing open public forums presenting data and doing Q&As. That’s what we did at the University all the time.

    And if you’ve ever been in a room with real scientists in that environment, you would know that almost nothing is ever “settled”. There’s always skepticism, arguments, and people who keep others in check with drawing conclusions beyond what the data should ethically allow them to do. This at least happens in the hard sciences like Physics/Chemistry.

  41. Bystander says:

    “Ok, so let’s change the dream and unify both sides by eliminating pork/gov expenditures.”

    Then everything has to be thrown on table, particularly the military budget but that is a non-starter for both sides. That would rather you focus on the parsley than the steak.

  42. No One says:

    In the long run it’s government spending that matters most. Also in the long run it has to be paid via taxes, debt, and or monetary devaluation.
    Different people benefit and different people lose from those decisions.
    Even in Venezuela thereis a small group of people who live well by always being at the front of the line for the spending, while being shielded from the collecting.
    Eventually deficits will matter more than they have been. Hard to predict when. They matter all the time, actually, but invisibly, by reducing the economic prosperity and growth that could have happened via higher savings and investment, and less distorted economy.

  43. chicagofinance says:

    Is there a fcuking difference?

    Maybe I mean Southern Italy…….

  44. chicagofinance says:

    left….. in case you missed…
    Chicago says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:37 pm
    Leftwing’s ex-wife

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CKEWl-vHBb_/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=74E8C46C-87C8-49FA-94E3-6927CAC58704

  45. Bystander says:

    Doctor of pediatrics, Harvard grad, Fellowship at Mt. Sinai, PA Secretary of Health for years..as opposed to Rick Perry given oversight of entire energy dept with zero experience, as well nuclear weapons where he had no idea that was part of the job. Gee I see a difference already.

  46. BRT says:

    Bystander,

    when Ron Paul said he wanted to eliminate the income tax, he was lambasted during debates saying that was a trillion dollars. Where on earth could you cut that spending out?. Simple math, 1 trillion a year on maintaining a military empire around the world. Bring em all home. Problem solved. I’m with you.

  47. Phoenix says:

    Not funny.

    left….. in case you missed…
    Chicago says:
    January 18, 2021 at 7:37 pm
    Leftwing’s ex-wife

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CKEWl-vHBb_/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=74E8C46C-87C8-49FA-94E3-6927CAC58704

  48. leftwing says:

    BRT, agree on the echo chambers and the expansion of alternate platforms.

    One thing I have yet to hear, after four years, from MSM…

    Introspection and culpability.

    Never once have I heard MSM even consider they may be (a large) part of the problem.

    If MSM had not lost its credibility among a large portion of the population there would be limited other platforms.

    Simply stated, why replicate when what you already have is functioning fine?

    I’m a good example…for five decades of life my live and print media were CBS and NYT. Nearly exclusively. BBC and WSJ/FT for some different perspective on current affairs. Literally had never watched Fox News before the age of 50. Ever. There was no reason to….

    Starting four years ago and culminating in the last twelve months CBS and NYT have become unbearable…too much slanting, misstatement by omission, editorializing in the reporting, and flat out errors (I won’t attribute bad intent and say lies).

    I find myself all too frequently reacting with “how can you say that, where are the editors and the adults in the room, why are your statements not being questioned or counterpoints presented?”

    So about three months ago I went to Fox. And Parler (pre-AWS de-platforming).

    Not because I wanted to. But because the changes in MSM pushed me there.

    Cause and effect have been poorly understood in the rise of alternate platforms and silos….

    The rise of politically siloed echo chambers was not organic but exploded because MSM stopped representing the vast majority of the populace.

  49. leftwing says:

    Good one chi….yeah, mine had much better (read:expensive) tastes and since the pocketbook at the end of the video would have been well into four figures she would have won that fight with the cop hands down…

    Here’s my mental visual of Phoenix’s anchor….especially when she does the two handed ‘boom’ lol…..also “by Shakespeare”…lolol.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbS-lt39SI&ab_channel=Match

  50. Bystander says:

    Ron Paul was the only sane person in that stage in 2012. I’ll never forget them laughing at his stance on concept of military ‘blowback’. That was sad as you realize that sanity has no place in political discussion anymore. He was also the only person to go after Bernanke hard during Fed bailout discussions. Those were classic. I have utmost respect for that man, even though I don’t agree with all views. Too bad his son is total partisan piece of sh%t. The apple landed a mile away.

  51. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Two more things that make Devine more qualified for a Biden post. Being a trannie, promoting that is key to he next administration. If you don’t check a few boxes you need not apply. And being duplicitous, it pulled its mother out of an assisted livig home when the democrat governers started intentionally sending the sick back in.

  52. chicagofinance says:

    FYI – our famed clot posts on Linked-In as if it were Facebook. He is the only person I’ve ever seen on there with such naked aggression. Very unhinged. Very hilarious. Very clot. The latest?

    Eric Trump pictured with a chef and restaurant owner. He posts in the comments section.

    do you often pose with treason weasels?

  53. Juice Box says:

    Keep Kicking the can.

    Yellen said she’s open to revisiting the idea of issuing 50-year ultra-long bonds.

  54. Juice Box says:

    Yellen says Crytpo used for illegal finance and we need to curtail it’s use on those channels.

  55. No One says:

    Yellen wants the Treasury to get active on the climate change hype. Such a fashionable central planner.

  56. chicagofinance says:

    “it” LOL…. you mean “they”

    BidenIsTheGOAT says:
    January 19, 2021 at 12:38 pm
    Two more things that make Devine more qualified for a Biden post. Being a trannie, promoting that is key to he next administration. If you don’t check a few boxes you need not apply. And being duplicitous, it pulled its mother out of an assisted livig home when the democrat governers started intentionally sending the sick back in.

  57. chicagofinance says:

    still laughing….. LOL

  58. The Great Pumpkin says:

    lol…yup. Like I said, all that matters is you keep the machine going. As long as the gears grind, the show goes on. That’s all that matters.

    The FED really has total control of the economy. They understand this at much different level. Technology has changed the game. Able to move money around quickly from one vehicle to another. That’s why we aren’t seeing inflation, money is being moved around as opposed to printing it.

    Juice Box says:
    January 19, 2021 at 12:45 pm
    Keep Kicking the can.

    Yellen said she’s open to revisiting the idea of issuing 50-year ultra-long bonds.

  59. BR says:

    If I remember correctly, it was Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kuchinich, and Alan Grayson that went after Bernanke. The house passed a bill to actually audit the fed at the time and random senators kept killing the legislation. How’s the fed’s balance sheet improved since then?

  60. BRT says:

    The FED really has total control of the economy. They understand this at much different level. Technology has changed the game. Able to move money around quickly from one vehicle to another. That’s why we aren’t seeing inflation, money is being moved around as opposed to printing it.

    keep believing that.

  61. Grim says:

    Clubhouse is pretty cool

  62. 3b says:

    BRT: Thank you.

  63. leftwing says:

    “Yellen said she’s open to revisiting the idea of issuing 50-year ultra-long bonds.”

    Poker tell.

    Something on the horizon that inflation or long end rate rise more imminent than previously thought….

    The US is nothing more than an overlevered, cash strapped suburban shack owner hurrying to get that cash out refi to keep the party going while rates are still low, baby!!

  64. Very Stable Genius says:

    Functioning government around the corner.

    Light after darkness.

    Love trumps hate.

  65. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What is the alternative? Anarchy and chaos from a revolution that ceases all current rules meaningless? Whatever you are worth now will be lost. Some cartel will come and overtake all property. Remember how these empires ended.

    If you don’t back the fed, you lack basic common sense of what happens when it all comes crashing down. It isn’t pretty. It’s pure hell on earth.

    “The US is nothing more than an overlevered, cash strapped suburban shack owner hurrying to get that cash out refi to keep the party going while rates are still low, baby!!”

  66. Very Stable Genius says:

    @jonbonjovi
    I am very honored to be part of the Presidential Inauguration tomorrow alongside so many incredible people. Tune in at 8:30pm as we ring in the new Administration of
    @JoeBiden
    and
    @KamalaHarris
    . #Inauguration2021

  67. Bystander says:

    Can someone help decipher this jibberish? Apparently, I did not study economics like the resident dufus.

    “That’s why we aren’t seeing inflation, money is being moved around as opposed to printing it.”

  68. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    They didn’t technically print out money and put it directly in circulation. They filled holes that would have led to the gears of the economy coming to a halt. They artificially filled demand to keep the system going and then took back those calls.

    Stimulus payments are printing up money. It’s putting money directly into the hands of the consumer. It’s okay, though, it’s needed and will be paid back with growth. It’s not like these people had a choice to stop spending; so it’s not as harmful, as these individuals had jobs and were producing before the govt shut them down. It’s just greasing the gears, keeping the economy going, as opposed to a brutal domino effect that is hard to get out of when a gear comes to a stop.

    If a gear is allowed to stop. It destroy the rest of the economy. It will take so much more capital to get it going again, so it’s better to throw some capital at it before it requires substantially more.

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So we might finally see inflation with the stimulus measures, but what the fed did since 2008, was not simply printing up money. That’s why inflation never came.

  70. relo says:

    Bon Jovi, Springsteen, etc. are limousine liberls who claim to identify with the “working class”. They have much more in common with the 1% as do most of the celebrities who support the next administration.

  71. relo says:

    Liberals

  72. Fast Eddie says:

    Ah, I saw my first indication of the “love” for the incoming O’Biden regime; a car with two flags mounted on each side that says, “F.uck Biden.”

  73. 3b says:

    Bystander: it’s painful reading!!

  74. leftwing says:

    Bystander: Why do you even try? Look at the gibberish at 3:24!

    Because, you know, money supply and velocity have nothing to do with inflation…..

  75. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That money was never unleashed. It was only there to shore up banks so that they keep lending. So how can it create inflation?

  76. Hold my beer says:

    Lots of big PAC donors cut off Republicans after the riot. And now McConnell says

    “Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday explicitly blamed President Donald Trump for the deadly riot at the Capitol, saying the mob was “fed lies” and that the president and others “provoked” those intent on overturning Democrat Joe Biden’s election.” Coincidence, money talks, or is he trying to guide away from Q and militias?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-trial-bidens-cabinet-picks-164450719.html

  77. Bystander says:

    4:22 – My head hurts at the stupidity. I would not trust you to to teach a shoelace tying course to children, let alone basic economics. Can you just go back to copying / pasting articles from intelligent sounding person then agreeing with them?

  78. ExEssex says:

    I’m pretty sure losing his son broke Biden in ways most of us wouldn’t want to imagine. That loss seems to inform his thinking and makes him melancholy.

  79. grim says:

    McConnell can go f*cl himself.

  80. notapumpsupporter says:

    pumps is right.. the problem is, the so called 50-year experienced experts just curse everybody from the fed to NJ real estate and even ducks on NJ roads…

    These 50-year experienced SMEs have said stuff on this forums and are licking their wounds.. The CT expert just keeps blaming everybody and their mother for his PM job situation.. instead of upgrading skillset to compete with the new crowd in market..

    So. One thing I learnt from this forums is, apart from Grim, nobody has any clue….

  81. notapumpssupporter says:

    If someone had listed to this genius in 2018 and dumped their stocks, they would be licking their wounds… Listen to this gem

    Bystander says:
    November 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm
    Stagnation, Blumpy. Get used to it. Wage inflation eaten up by rising health care costs and taxes. Surely posing as more money in the everyman’s pocket on some dilletante/economist’s moonlit theories. You also have clearly never managed resourcing or budgeting for any semi-large corporation. You would see the hatred for the American worker. Your eyes would open up that maybe growth locally will be divided globally, particularly when low cost labor areas are easier than ever to access for any company, big or small. Again, we have never witnessed a heavy inflationary environment without a core manufacturing base to push the hand of corp management. Strictly thinking that patriotism will provide a big bump for US workers is beyond foolish. Govt will need to force the hand this time via legislation, punishing outsourcing and raising h1 wage minimum. When that happens, talk to me about roaring 20s. Of course, stocks will nose dive as labor costs eat profit.

    30 year realtor says:
    November 28, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    Currently working on a property in the Princeton area. House sold new in 2004 for $1,450,000. Currently listed as a short sale for under 1.2. Recent sales in the area in this price range show values off about 30% from 2006 peak. My interpretation of the data shows prices appear to be firming. In the short range I expect prices to leak lower in this area/price range.

    This example is the rule across most of North Jersey for high price, high tax homes.

  82. notapumpsupporter says:

    More great advice from 50+ year experienced SMEs

    3b says:
    December 29, 2017 at 11:10 am
    I predict the tax law will negatively impact north Jersey housing prices. I predict Murphy will be hard pressed to raise taxes and will do nothing.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 29, 2017 at 3:00 pm
    Economy is heating up, especially our local economy. Limited inventory combined with a local economy and housing market that only recently started getting its legs back.

    3b says:
    December 29, 2017 at 2:33 pm
    10 percent appreciation!! You are on crack!! Delusional!!

    Juice Box says:
    December 30, 2017 at 11:44 am
    More housing predictions…

    “Moody’s Analytics estimates that housing prices will drop about 4 percent nationwide relative to projections in which the law doesn’t exist, and those drops are more pronounced in high-cost housing markets.”

    https://www.curbed.com/2017/12/29/16808148/tax-bill-housing-market-calculate-change

  83. notapumpsupporter says:

    More invaluable advice from seniors..

    30 year realtor says:
    February 28, 2019 at 8:56 am
    Currently have listings on market in Bergen, Passaic, Morris and Hunterdon. Several more to hit market in next 2 weeks. Those of you counting on a strong Spring market are going to be disappointed. The pulse of the market is weak.

    Listed a townhouse in Wayne last week for $599,900. Unit just had a $120,000 renovation with all new oak floors, 2.1 new baths and a new kitchen…etc. Last model match sale in good (but not renovated) condition closed 2/14/19 for $567,500. So far not a single showing request. Unit is a 3000 GLA end unit in High Point.

    3b says:
    November 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm
    NJ suburbs are dead.

    JCer says:
    November 27, 2018 at 12:39 pm
    pumps, GM axing 15k people does not look or sound promising……..If this is a sign of things to come a 2020 recession looks more likely than the roaring 2020’s.

    Bystander says:
    November 27, 2018 at 1:01 pm
    Funny, last month it was low inventory that was driving prices higher. Now, we have affordability crisis. Real estate pigs can’t keep story straight, similar to Blumpkin and his idiotic ramblings. “Why are rich folks causing a recession?” “Ok a recession is good now” Carnac the moronic.

  84. notapumpsupporter says:

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    November 27, 2018 at 2:06 pm
    Do you guys understand that this cool down in appreciation is a good thing long term? If house prices went out of control, there would be no shot in hell of my call of “roaring 20’s 2.0” as it would hijack the economic growth from the rest of the economy.

    Some of you are complete haters of real estate. It’s truly amazing. Real estate is what provided the foundation for so many families to score a middle class or higher lifestyle. Just pure haters.

    Bystander says:
    November 27, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    We really need a psychiatrist for Blump. Should be a separate donate button on top. Every $20 raised means 20 less ramblings per day, which all boil down to ‘but, but..I am smart! Daddy said so through the glass’

  85. Bystander says:

    Tell us notpumpsupporter..what do you do for a living? Wait, you wear a sock so that blumpy has someone to talk to. You also j*rk his little winky to Wayne RE monthly. Damn that was a gem by me two years ago…or 4 trillion dollars, whichever unit of measure suits you. But, it was all part of roaring 20s prediction by Nostradumbass.

  86. notapumpsupporter says:

    More expert opinion

    Bystander says:
    September 27, 2019 at 10:30 am
    I will tell my neighbor that he can expect a full 875K offer anyday from a millenial for the (new) home he paid $885k in in 2014. That millenial will get 70K of upgrades for free. Going on 5 months, no offers..I will tell him any minute. We are similiar to Wayne except better schools, better dowtown, 2 D1 universities and 4 separate beaches on LI sound. 75m commute to GC. Crickets in CT.

  87. 30 year realtor says:

    notapumpsupporter,

    Wish I was smart enough to price in the pandemic before it was even a thing. Guilty as charged. Missed pandemic pricing completely.

  88. Bystander says:

    He sold for 835K dipsh^t, three months after that post. Lost 1ooK easy.

  89. 3b says:

    Blog going down again with all the jibberish postings and ramblings, and the mysterious alter ego that comes and goes depending on blog reactions to the ramblings and jibberish. It’s absolutely bizarre.

  90. notapumpsupporter says:

    Excellent analysis… Should have dumped all and gone cash in march..

    Bystander says:
    March 26, 2020 at 10:08 am
    Dow up 700 points. Complete pump and dump by end of day. Last hour of trading is all that matter now.

  91. Juice Box says:

    I will bite Pumps… First GTFOH if you want an ATTABOY…..

    You see a tide on the horizon coming in and lifting all boats and forget the folks that don’t have a boat. They are simply destroyed…

    So anyway as 30 year said, Pumps got a Black Swan jammed up his arse without any Vaseline by sheer dumb luck and now thinks in his world real estate is the center of the universe again. Riddle me this Copernicus how did the 30 year bond perform against the S&P last year and why?

    You really think these Fed interventions have not created a dislocation? How come they can never ever sell the trash back? It’s called a Reverse Repo. Perhaps no willing buyers, no different than housing bonds from a decade + ago. Meaning they have zero control and no exit plan, and only pick their buddies to be winners. You tried to explain at your post 4:22 but that is not correct. You forget who first gets the free money aka liquidity from the FED. I explained it the other day. It ain’t you and yours, you think you are going to get the easy money first you know high reward and low risk at the same time?

    Let’s switch gears to something that should be volatile.

    Why is the FED buying securitized auto loans and why is the price only rising? Auto sales cratered, and many people are broke and missing payments yet the junk paper is better than gold this year. Anyone you even know made a nickel on this? There is nothing in your portfolio that made this kind of killing. It’s as if they pried the sell button off the keyboards down at certain trading desks…..

    General Motors stock? Why is it up? Are they going to beat Elon Musk at his game? No way, Elon no unions so no chance. Guess what GM is going to be a bank again and take deposits! Yes GM the BANK that makes cars is back!

    Pumps you were called on the Black Swan many many months ago so be happy you Uncle Fred brother of Uncle Same is happy to give cash for trash no questioned asked. Better yet make a prediction for 2021. It’s not tool late….

  92. notapumpsupporter says:

    Truth Hurts

    “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

    3b says:
    January 19, 2021 at 10:04 pm
    Blog going down again with all the jibberish postings and ramblings, and the mysterious alter ego that comes and goes depending on blog reactions to the ramblings and jibberish. It’s absolutely bizarre.

  93. joyce says:

    What was wrong in this post from Bystander?

    notapumpssupporter says:
    January 19, 2021 at 8:55 pm
    If someone had listed to this genius in 2018 and dumped their stocks, they would be licking their wounds… Listen to this gem

    Bystander says:
    November 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm
    Stagnation, Blumpy. Get used to it. Wage inflation eaten up by rising health care costs and taxes. Surely posing as more money in the everyman’s pocket on some dilletante/economist’s moonlit theories. You also have clearly never managed resourcing or budgeting for any semi-large corporation. You would see the hatred for the American worker. Your eyes would open up that maybe growth locally will be divided globally, particularly when low cost labor areas are easier than ever to access for any company, big or small. Again, we have never witnessed a heavy inflationary environment without a core manufacturing base to push the hand of corp management. Strictly thinking that patriotism will provide a big bump for US workers is beyond foolish. Govt will need to force the hand this time via legislation, punishing outsourcing and raising h1 wage minimum. When that happens, talk to me about roaring 20s. Of course, stocks will nose dive as labor costs eat profit.

  94. Bystander says:

    Joyce,

    Simple. He does not understand it. Dummy has only known two games in his sad adult existence, Monopoly – started out on Baltic, Daddy sent directly to Jail, robbed Granny’s chest for a place on Oriental Ave then Fed refills the till each time with that sweet orange money. Also, the game of Life, where he pulled the dreaded teacher card, married up then kicked his feet up on the passengers side of the car.

  95. leftwing says:

    Tonight….just…..wow.

    Michael, please at least have a modicum of self respect and post under your real name.

    Going out tomorrow and banging some clays with my youngest before he heads back to school. Breaking in a new Beretta O/U. See ya all. Have fun here. Sincerely, lol.

  96. Libturd, got shot one today says:

    There are only a few here who get it!

    The rest let politics bias their thoughts way too much.

    You all know who you are.

  97. Chicago says:

    OMG that is even better than I remember

  98. Very Stable Genius says:

    Long on Democracy!

    Long on America!

    Welcome Mr. President and Madam VP!

  99. Fast Eddie says:

    Chicago,

    G0d, I feel old listening to that theme song. 70s pop music had that feel to it, like the theme from the first Rocky movie. Anyway, how many on this blog even saw an episode of Baretta?

  100. grim says:

    Where’s my free healthcare?

  101. Very Stable Genius says:

    NPR
    @NPR
    Up to 25,000 National Guard troops will be in place Wednesday — five times the number of U.S. service members stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Roughly 1,000 guests will attend the ceremony itself.

  102. Very Stable Genius says:

    Treason
    is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance. This typically includes acts such as participating in a war against one’s native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state. A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

  103. Juice Box says:

    Hopefully with Trump now gone as of today China will now help us get our country back on track, because those damm Russians did not do a thing for our last President.

  104. grim says:

    25,000 armed troops on display at the inauguration?

    Sounds like something North Korea would do.

    Will we be parading missiles now too?

  105. grim says:

    attempting to overthrow its government

    Will go down as the most pitiful attempt at an insurrection/coup in history. Should have spent some time researching the more effective coups in Latin America and around the world.

    Machine guns are generally an expected part of the attempt, they didn’t have any, idiots.

    Last time anyone will expect a mob of internet nerds to overthrow the government.

  106. Juice box says:

    Re: Will we be parading missiles now too?

    Close the have Patriot Missles down there just incase redneck Ronnie fires a civil war cannon his great, great, great grandpappy used in the civil war.

  107. grim says:

    It’s like a bunch of white people culturally appropriated a Central American tradition and just went and f*cked it all up. F*cking Cinco de Mayo version of insurrection.

  108. BRT says:

    If someone had listed to this genius in 2018 and dumped their stocks, they would be licking their wounds… Listen to this gem

    Because he was continually told for 10 years? Stocks would go higher than real estate, yet he kept talking up real estate as the better play. In 2008, blumpy was asked about SF real estate and he said it wasn’t at peak. Same for NYC. Yes it was, and now it’s going to fall off the side of a cliff. And even if it doesn’t, the stock market gains still crushed the gains in real estate.

  109. grim says:

    Biden already plans to reverse that via executive order, so it’s got about 6 hours left to live.

    Expect nearly every executive order Trump signed to be reversed, even those that are regarded as bipartisan and broadly accepted. They’ll simply be re-signed as Biden EOs.

  110. grim says:

    All my bags are packed
    I’m ready to go
    I’m standin’ here outside your door
    I hate to wake you up to say goodbye

    But the dawn is breakin’
    It’s early morn
    The taxi’s waitin’
    He’s blowin’ his horn
    Already I’m so lonesome
    I could die

    So kiss me and smile for me
    Tell me that you’ll wait for me
    Hold me like you’ll never let me go
    ‘Cause I’m leavin’ on a jet plane
    Don’t know when I’ll be back again
    Oh babe, I hate to go

    There’s so many times I’ve let you down
    So many times I’ve played around
    I tell you now, they don’t mean a thing
    Every place I go, I’ll think of you
    Every song I sing, I’ll sing for you
    When I come back, I’ll bring your wedding ring

    So kiss me and smile for me
    Tell me that you’ll wait for me
    Hold me like you’ll never let me go

  111. 30 year realtor says:

    Grim,

    It isn’t about the limited life of the 1776 report. It is about the fact that the administration of an American president produced this white supremacist view of American history in 2021. This is a deeply disturbing report and highlights the need to destroy the white supremacy movement in this country.

  112. Very Stable Genius says:

    Na na na na, hey hey, goodbye
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  113. No One says:

    One thing we’ve all learned from this is that if you are going to organize a successful riot that’s popular with the media, you need to ensure the majority of your rioters are from an “underepresented minority group”.

  114. 30 year realtor says:

    No One,

    Are you trying to say the media hasn’t been fair to the traitors who planted the seeds of insurrection and those who stormed the Capitol?

  115. Juice Box says:

    Big FU to Google from Trump. Anthony Levandowski? Really? Uber had for to settle for $245 million dollars over the Waymo Lidar.

  116. No One says:

    Grim,
    It’s because the neomarxists have just recently convinced most intellectuals that the US was built on and for white supremacy and that whites are either consciously or unconsciously violent racists who must be re-educated.

    That worldview is exploding in culture. HBO’s series “Lovecraft Country” basically shows the US as a place where whites have no desires beyond tormenting and killing blacks, and its theme appears to be – kill whites before they kill you.

    The current obsession with racial collectives is increasingly turning people against one another, ultimately inciting more violence.

  117. leftwing says:

    Only got through five paragraphs of that Vanity Fair article…no factual critique just too much whining…did stumble on this gem before shutting it down:

    “The report hijacks King and makes of his memory a missile it aims at his legacy: “The Civil Rights Movement,” reads the report, “was almost immediately turned to programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the founders.””

    Entirely accurate factually. Or would you like to square King’s primary assertion below with those programs? That those programs have any semblance to King’s dream? That those programs in fact perpetuate a situation that runs directly contrary to King’s dream?

    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

    Nearly every program today laying claim to King’s legacy runs contrary to that ideal.

  118. Fast Eddie says:

    January 20th, 2021 – the birth of The United Soc1alists States of America (USSA).

  119. Libturd says:

    Good riddance to the worst president the US ever witnessed.

    BTW, he rescinded the order that no one in the administration could lobby for five years after working for him.

    What a sad, sad, excuse for a man.

  120. The Great Pumpkin says:

    For the 100th time, that was not me posting. Think what you want, it wasn’t me.

    Also, a black swan event didn’t start this exodus from the city. It was already happening, it only accelerated it. Nyc peaked in 2016. Understand this. This entire movement was predicated on millennials being a bigger demographic bloc than the boomers. They were always going to move out of the city and start their families. I was told by this blog and experts in the field that they were never coming back to the burbs or having families. I stood my ground and did not back off.

    What you people don’t get, this pandemic actually hurt my prediction. If this pandemic had not come about, those millennials would be going nuts buying homes and spending lots of money. There is an entire wave of this about to be unleashed, enough to last the entire decade. The oldest millennials are now 40, it’s only beginning. They are heading towards peak earning years combined with peak spending years.

  121. BRT says:

    Correction to my previous post, it was late 2018 when Blumpy was talking up NYC/SF real estate. Not 2008

  122. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    Acknowledge that the FED had no choice and is doing a fine job. 2008 could have destroyed your life. Your entire life ruined. Fortunately, the FED saved our a$$. If they didn’t, mine as well be dead. We would be living in chaotic hell, but instead Dow is 30k. Most are not really suffering, and if it all crashed…ALL would be SUFFERING.

  123. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So if anyone has a better plan than the FED took, I’m all ears.

    That’s why I laugh at all these bitcoin boys mocking the FED. Idiots. You would have nothing without them. Be living in a nightmare.

  124. Fast Eddie says:

    25,000 troops are surrounding the capital in a show of of force… as a symbol of s0cial1st power. Each and every soldier is vetted to ensure loyalty to the regime, not to our country, not to the Constitution but loyalty to the deviousness of a political party.

  125. Libturd says:

    “Nearly every program today laying claim to King’s legacy runs contrary to that ideal.”

    Can you blame them? We have 8 trillion to fight Covid, but can’t make police cams a standard?

    In Jersey, we can borrow 10 billion but can’t find 50 million for cop cams? But we can easily find the millions to send state troopers to DC for what will amount to a paid vacation.

    Trust me when I say this. The next time a cop shoves a plunger up a black man’s ass. Or kneels on his neck of a mentally ill black man till he dies, the protests won’t be quite as peaceful. Why is that?

  126. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing,

    You said “Nearly every program today laying claim to King’s legacy runs contrary to that ideal”. It would be more correct to say your interpretation of that ideal. I am sure King would find the attempts of conservative, right-wing and white supremacists to alter the intent of his message to be reprehensible.

  127. 30 year realtor says:

    Fast Eddie,

    Those orders for the 25,000 troops came from the Trump administration.

  128. No One says:

    I think anyone who tries breaking and entering the Capitol or White House should be arrested and charged, and that deadly force should be used to prevent their entry if necessary.

    I also think that if a black group had tried a break in of the Capitol to protest, let’s say, black voter suppression, the media would have featured anyone killed as a martyr, and would have produced many segments about the justice of their cause.
    In other words, the same illegal activities would have been treated very differently by the media. And Fox would have been much more outraged by this hypothetical riot than the actual one.

    Every news item is now used to push the news-media’s particular agenda now. Objective reporting has been abandoned.

  129. Libturd says:

    No One.

    Please tell me, what was the reason for the current insurrection?

    Now if it was black people hypothetically?

  130. leftwing says:

    So, while you are in the throws of one of your manic bouts of oral diarrhea seeking to desperately fulfill your pathological need to be told you are “right” some magical new poster who only appears at the same time you post is entirely coincidentally online and takes the time to document reams of postings from years ago all at 10:30 at night…closing it with a reply to 3b that “Truth Hurts First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”…

    It is demonstrative of how truly dull witted you are that you suspect we are so stupid as to believe that poster is not you.

    Go seek affirmation somewhere else.

  131. njtownhomer says:

    The objective reporting media raised Trump from his birther fallacy and went extra nuts with Clinton emails. Come on, the public is being spoon fed by the forces with big ratings and money flow.

    Trump should be truly despised of not the rescinding his orders, or pardons, but not attending, not even mentioning of any vigil that country has seen yesterday for the 400K people lost to pandemic.

  132. leftwing says:

    “I am sure King would find the attempts of conservative, right-wing and white supremacists to alter the intent of his message to be reprehensible.”

    I’m always impressed at the mental gymnastics of liberals…Simone Biles-worthy…(see what I did there?)

    The words, and their meaning, could not be any more precise, concise, and simple:

    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

    What is reprehensible is that the Left appropriated his concepts to build a self serving power base for themselves while leaving Black communities in no better shape than 50 years ago.

    Three strikes and you’re out. Fifty years of failure for sure. Even if your view is correct, which I am not conceding, the Left have failed the Black community for FIFTY YEARS. Take your parasitic politicians who are so good at ‘feeling their pain’ and move on to the next host already…..

  133. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Real estate is a long term game based on leveraging. Understand that leveraging is the difference. Dollar vs dollar, not borrowed dollars, real estate is the best wealth builder. You can’t beat it. If you have money to risk, stock market beats it hands down.

    As for SF and NYC, this is a rare opportunity to buy at a discount. They are hands down the best real estate in America. The kings of each coast. If you can get in, you get in. They rarely have dips.

    BRT says:
    January 20, 2021 at 8:10 am
    If someone had listed to this genius in 2018 and dumped their stocks, they would be licking their wounds… Listen to this gem

    Because he was continually told for 10 years? Stocks would go higher than real estate, yet he kept talking up real estate as the better play. In 2008, blumpy was asked about SF real estate and he said it wasn’t at peak. Same for NYC. Yes it was, and now it’s going to fall off the side of a cliff. And even if it doesn’t, the stock market gains still crushed the gains in real estate.

  134. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – We now have a situation where Mr. Market can no longer determine interest rates on anything. There is no reason for the Fed to be buying Corporate Bonds, if you want to borrow you should pay a higher interest rate and let the the Market decide that rate.

    Next up will be Stocks.

    Think that cannot happen? I present to you the largest shareholder of the Nik*kei stocks, the Bank of Japan. Their 30 + year adventure in monetary stimul*us has failed to produce inflation, the architects of it would rather hand this to the next generation to deal with long after they are dead and buried.

    We are headed down that road, and it won’t be the same road that is for sure.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-06/boj-becomes-biggest-japan-stock-owner-with-434-billion-hoard

  135. BRT says:

    A Newsweek fact check appeared on my phone for the new Health Pick

    It is true that coronavirus nursing home-associated deaths have risen in the state.

    However, although Levine serves as the Pennsylvania secretary of health and was active in that position when the state’s health department issued the guidance to nursing home facilities saying they can accept patients from hospitals and patients who formerly had COVID-19, that does not prove she placed coronavirus-positive patients in nursing homes or contributed to thousands of elderly deaths in the state.

    Ok, so since she didn’t drive the ambulance in to transport them, she gets a pass. Is this the serious reporting that we should expect from an age old publication?

  136. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Stock market is the best wealth builder, dollar for dollar. Oops.

    Real estate is the best wealth builder when you add in leveraging.

  137. 3b says:

    Juice: It won’t last 30 years here, not even close.

  138. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s not me. I can’t prove it, but it’s not me.

    leftwing says:
    January 20, 2021 at 9:23 am
    So, while you are in the throws of one of your manic bouts of oral diarrhea seeking to desperately fulfill your pathological need to be told you are “right” some magical new poster who only appears at the same time you post is entirely coincidentally online and takes the time to document reams of postings from years ago all at 10:30 at night…closing it with a reply to 3b that “Truth Hurts First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”…

  139. BRT says:

    Juice,

    we should be thanking the BOJ for showing us the magical way to prop things up for 30 decades while screwing over the next generation. Jokes on them, Japan has no young people anymore!

  140. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing,

    Despite your assertions, progress has been made toward racial equality. Just because the goal has not been reached doesn’t mean the objective should be pitched. The last week has made it clear that large, organized groups of white supremacists are a security risk for this country. This will be made even more clear as the investigations and prosecutions progress related to the siege of the Capitol. It is already clear that white supremacists are a problem in the military and police departments around this nation.

  141. BRT says:

    Yeah, it’s not like you can’t lever yourself up and buy stocks.

  142. 3b says:

    Today the madness of Trump ends. I don’t like Biden, never did. A liar and a plagiarist, and a do nothing 40 plus year politician. But I wish him well. It’s for the young people now and their futures. If nothing really changes and I suspect that will be the case, at least perhaps we won’t have the tantrums and Twitter madness. We could have done far better than Joe Biden, but it is what it is.

  143. ExEssex says:

    Or far worse. Buh Bye Donny.

  144. Libturd says:

    Juice,
    He is too young and exceptionally naive.

    Leftwing,
    The fact the left hasn’t done sh1t for the black community does not make them racist. Though I’ve witnessed this phenomenon time and time again. The poorer the group being helped, it appears the more likely the help will be squandered. This reminds me of Arafat. At the time, Israel gave him millions to help the poor community in the settlements. Arafat instead chose to build a fancy compound with it. I’m guessing, nowhere is the desire to play the “I finally got mine, F you and yours,” stronger than when someone comes from the depths of poverty. You really can’t blame them. They know how bad it is and are never going back.

  145. 3b says:

    BRT I believe Japan has the lowest or one of the lowest birth rates in the world now. I read somewhere that many Japanese men don’t even want to date anymore. They can buy female robots and program them for the type of women they want them to be. And the robots never have a headache!!

  146. Juice Box says:

    3B – Fed’s Balance sheet was about $30 Billion before the housing crisis.

    It’s well North of 7 Trillion now with no end in sight.

    https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm

    No worries we will go back to a demand-pull economy again once the pandemic is over. Everyone will run out and borrow and spend tens of trillions, there will be shortages of everything driving up prices to no tomorrow.

    Heck the Fed might even raise interest rates when I am 80 years old so I can enjoy a nice fixed income retirement and not have to hit the buy and sell button on stocks to keep me from having to eat friskies for dinner every night.

  147. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    Yes, it’s probably not going to be me well. I just hope someone smart enough comes along and solves the problem for the sake of society.

    If the system breaks and crashes, it’s going to be one ugly revolution. Just ugly and set us back centuries.

    You see that guillotine earrings are in fashion?

  148. The Great Pumpkin says:

    *end well

  149. Juice Box says:

    Pumps the idea that the economy was rescued is false. The rich were rescued. Biden has already said his executive order to end foreclosures and evictions will only extend another two months. He wants Congress to pass a bill to extend it longer, and provide some money, he won’t do it via executive order.

    That data says massive amounts of foreclosures and evictions are coming. These people will never ever be able to make up for back rent or mortgage payments at $15 an hour.

    https://www.census.gov/data-tools/demo/hhp/#/?measures=EVR

  150. leftwing says:

    “Ok, so since she didn’t drive the ambulance in to transport them, she gets a pass. Is this the serious reporting that we should expect from an age old publication?”

    Boom. Another liberal 10.0 landing off the twisted logic balance beam….

  151. leftwing says:

    “Despite your assertions, progress has been made…”

    FIFTY YEARS.

    You don’t get to bask in a halo while disparaging the other side after FIFTY YEARS.

    You had the original ‘first Black President’ nearly thirty years ago who ‘felt their pain’. The results?

    He’s worth a quarter of a billion dollars with multiple mansions and the grandchildren of adults who voted for him are living in the same squalor that his programs failed to alleviate. But, hey, he did rent a small commercial space in Harlem a few years back so let’s just call it a push, ok?

    The Left has promised and failed to deliver for this group while using them and their miseries for the rawest of political purposes….the Right is uncovering this travesty, Blacks are listening, and the Left is very afraid. As they should be.

  152. Juice Box says:

    re: Yes Dr. Kevorkian’s sister did not drive the Ambulance……

    Here is the guidance from March 18th last year.

    “Nursing care facilities must continue to accept new admissions and receive
    readmissions for current residents who have been discharged from the hospital
    who are stable to alleviate the increasing burden in the acute care settings. This
    may include stable patients who have had the COVID-19 virus.”

    https://pahomecare.memberclicks.net/assets/docs/FINAL%20FOR%20DISTRO_Interim%20Nursing%20Facility%20Guidance%2003192020%20at%201500.pdf

  153. leftwing says:

    “The fact the left hasn’t done sh1t for the black community does not make them racist.”

    Lib totally agree and I did not assert that….

    The thread began with 30yr calling people who take a literal reading of King’s words and call out the massive failure of liberal programs white supremacists. I took exception to that assertion given the powerful simplicity of King’s actual words and the utter failure of programs based around a contortion of them.

    I generally don’t “-ist” anyone…personally, I find that reprehensible as it requires one to be so arrogant as to presume to know another’s intentions. Plus, it generally resides with owners who have run out of facts and reason for debate.

  154. BRT says:

    What I don’t for the life of me get was the CDC gave a warning when Oregon had the first nursing home outbreak. Then, somewhere along the line, some dufus in the North East says, “our hospitals are going to be overwhelmed, where else can we put them? I know, lets put them back in nursing homes, they have beds!”. Then 5 or 6 other governors plagiarize the idea.

    But the fact that people can try to make excuses for this blatant lack of logic and incompetence shows you how there is no hope for sanity.

  155. Fast Eddie says:

    You had the original ‘first Black President’ nearly thirty years ago who ‘felt their pain’. The results?

    Oblammy followed up and did such a great job that he’s sipping Dropje Daiquiris and Singapore Slings from his garden conservatory.

  156. BRT says:

    btw, I’m extremely disappointed in the failure to pardon Assange and Snowden. Who in their right mind would be a government whistleblower at this point?

  157. Juice Box says:

    BRT – Cover is they are blaming the nursing home workers for spreading the virus.
    Fact is nursing home administrators felt they had no choice but to accept them, as denying patients could lead to a loss in revenue and invite regulatory scrutiny. This is per NYT reporting.

    Cover again, most of the states have passed immunity laws for the nursing homes also they cannot be sued, the facts will never come out in court. The Federal investigation started will now fizzle with the new administration in.

    I for one think families share some of the blame, they knew their loved ones were at risk but did not go and check them out of the nursing home like Dr. Rachel L. Levin did with her mom.

  158. leftwing says:

    “What I don’t for the life of me get was the CDC gave a warning when Oregon had the first nursing home outbreak.”

    BRT, what I don’t get is given the set of facts you lay out why the office of Governor in most States even exists?

    The guy from WV has administered about 75% of vaccines received. Love him. He was on CNBC yesterday fielding questions on distribution and the entirety of his responses boiled down to ‘just do it’.

    The preening fool in NY who just crossed 50% and has a million doses just lying around sits around complaining that no one told him what to do.

    Hey, jackass, if I need to tell you what to do in your State why do I need you?

    Well, I guess someone needs to ‘joke’ with his brother on primetime TV using a giant swab as a prop and accept a media award….as 41,000 of your residents die…

    Who’s tone deaf?

  159. 3b says:

    BRT: I agree.

  160. BRT says:

    I for one think families share some of the blame, they knew their loved ones were at risk but did not go and check them out of the nursing home like Dr. Rachel L. Levin did with her mom.

    This is true as well. I firmly plan to write in my will that the only way my money is passed on to my children at all is if I don’t get put in a nursing home. I had a cousin that got placed in one when she got brain cancer in her 60s. She gave up her job to take care of her parents and her brother when she was in her 50s. Her parents were old and her brother was a brain cancer survivor but permanently disabled. Well, when the 3 of them died, the remaining siblings sold the house as she was hospitalized and said, she couldn’t move in with them. They both bought brand new vacation homes at the shore with the money. She basically died alone with no one looking out for her.

  161. Juice Box says:

    BRT – Joe Exotic commutation would have been nice, a full pardon no.

    I mean they even had a hair, makeup and wardrobe team on standby with the limo, Reality TV crew ready to film him going to MCDonalds to get a McRib..

    https://www.nj.com/entertainment/2021/01/tiger-king-joe-exotic-misses-out-on-trump-pardon-remains-in-captivity.html

  162. BRT says:

    leftwing,

    I agree. It’s pathetic. It’s not complicated to just open up shop and say, people over 60, show up. How many people would have been willing to stand in line between Christmas and New Years? We all had off and nothing better to do. Especially in NYC, where you were literally banned from doing anything fun.

  163. ExEssex says:

    10:35 it’s a Trump moment. Someone counting on him and….nothing.

  164. ExEssex says:

    10:21 it’s amazing what a few mega-selling books and a good marriage will get you today.

  165. Phoenix says:

    BRT,

    What was happening in hospitals at that time was like something you could not even imagine. I was there. We lived it.
    I don’t know whose ideas led to granny going back to a nursing home. Every day as information came in plans/techniques/policies were changed as we tried to sort everything out. Seems like NNJ had a cluster of this and being the first area to be hit hard, we were the one’s who came up with the techniques, ideas, and ways to manage that other parts of the country would later follow.

    If you wanted to control this at the beginning, you needed to isolate. Within 4 hrs during 911 all planes were on the ground. But during this, everyone was allowed to go anywhere they wanted to go which seeded the entire country.

    Hospitals are not a place to “stay” anymore. Mom gives birth, 24 hrs later it’s out the door. It’s not 1950 with a 10 day stay, insurance does not pay. With robotics, some surgeries the patient goes home the same day. Your family recovers you, not Blue Cross and Blue Shield.
    The goal is when you come, you get fixed, and you go home to recover. Not for you to stay. Most places are at or near full capacity at all times.

  166. Phoenix says:

    This to me is an example of a poorly written law. Why is there only a penalty when it is a person of “protected” class? So if someone does this on a person of ” unprotected” class than it’s a go.

    In mid-June, Gov. Cuomo signed into law State Senate Bill 8492, which imposes a civil penalty for calling the cops on a black person, or any other member of a “protected class,” when there’s “no reason to believe a crime or offense, or imminent threat to person or property, is occurring.”

  167. Juice Box says:

    BRT – re: sick cousin. I gather the brothers and sisters transferred the home long before she got sick. FYI Medicare, as a rule, does not cover long-term care settings. Medicaid does and usually puts a lien on the house and assets.

    Plan accordingly, my wife’s parents uncles and aunts bankrupted Grandma and moved the house to their names a full 20+ years before she ended up in the nursing home at 103 years old. They subsidized her living in her small cape cod home for her remaining years as well.

    She only lasted three months in the nursing home, the bill was astronomical. Average stay is nine months.

  168. 3b says:

    BRT: That is a horrible story.

  169. Phoenix says:

    ExEssex says:
    January 20, 2021 at 10:40 am
    10:21 it’s amazing what a few mega-selling books and a good marriage will get you today.

    Or being a social media influencer. That’s a great gig. Millionaire by age 20 just for dancing or doing cheerleading moves on You Tube and Tik Tok.

    That patriarchy really gets in the way doesn’t it. Too bad ARK didn’t invest in her.

    https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/singers/charli-damelio-net-worth/

  170. leftwing says:

    BRT, agree. Even more mind boggling Cuomo spent his time drawing up a byzantine set of plans for ‘equitable’ distribution rather than opening every shop for innoculation.

    It was equitable alright, no one is able to timely get it.

    He entirely inexplicably proposed fines for facilities and providers not following his micro-dictated 28 pages of rules…$1m for a facility, IIRC individual providers may have had some liability at around a $100k level…..

    These facilities and people are overwhelmed with an entirely new once in a century event and to incentivize them to get it done you decide to….impose massive fines if they don’t follow your checklist?

    And then you wonder why vaccines are getting thrown in the dumpster rather than injected? And you have one of the worse innoculation rates in the country?

    The (il)logic of a liberal control freak mind is truly something to behold.

  171. leftwing says:

    My sister (just turned 50, generally good health, TN) and I are vaccinated.

    Our 80+ year old parents in NY each with reams of co-morbidities….no date, not even a place to get a firm date no matter how far out.

  172. Phoenix says:

    “Plan accordingly, my wife’s parents uncles and aunts bankrupted Grandma and moved the house to their names a full 20+ years before she ended up in the nursing home at 103 years old. They subsidized her living in her small cape cod home for her remaining years as well.
    She only lasted three months in the nursing home, the bill was astronomical.”

    So basically, Grandma’s money and assets were supposed to take care of her into her old age. But the relatives wanted the money for themselves, and for the government and taxpayers to pick up the “welfare” tab. So they “planned accordingly,” stole the money, then claimed later that “grandma” was destitute even though in reality she did have assets.
    Then dumped her off in a nursing home for the taxpayers to pick up the tab.

    Kind of like claiming you need food stamps when you have an account full of cash.

  173. leftwing says:

    “This to me is an example of a poorly written law. Why is there only a penalty when it is a person of “protected” class?”

    It’s the fulfillment of a fifty year dream where skin color doesn’t matter and only the content of your character (your actions) does. /sarcasm off

  174. notapumpsupporter says:

    Those people who are beating up real pumps don’t get it. They have zero to nada clue..
    They have no clue that US real estate is one of the cheapest in the world..

    Try to buy a house in Mumbai or Bangalore OR Hongkong and compare that to the income….

    Pumps was the only guy who made some right calls when the rest of the clueless SMEs on this board, typed in 50 line justification on why NNJ is hosed and NJ is hosed.. All this while the Project Management expert from CT just ranted about everything and their mother.

    One thing I learnt on this board after being on for 14 years, the so-called experts are mostly clueless.. and still think they are the smartest..

    “”””The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their own capabilities”””

  175. chicagofinance says:

    Headline in response to Pumps casual dismissal of inflation:
    “Mega Millions jackpot now closing in on $1 billion”

  176. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – Sounds that way right? When Grandma was around 80 yrs old and broke living off a railroad pension they took over the house and paid for her to live their, taxes, repairs, upkeep, new windows, doors siding and utilities, cars, maintenance etc. House was worth maybe $40k at the time in the 1990s Midwest. She would not have been able to afford it by herself anymore, would have had to sell and move maybe into an Apt at some retirement community. She wanted to be independent and was more than physically able to do so, so her kids helped her out and she got her wish.

    When the house was sold for $110k after her death the money was divided five ways after fees etc. Each child inherited maybe $20k.

  177. Phoenix says:

    Left,
    A show for you to watch if you feel like. In fact all young men should have to watch this in high school in order to graduate.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2212&v=bYH992ynhdU&feature=youtu.be

  178. chicagofinance says:

    Yeah, but did they brine the roads? ……. NJ RULEZ!

    Very Stable Genius says:
    January 20, 2021 at 7:27 am
    NPR
    @NPR
    Up to 25,000 National Guard troops will be in place Wednesday — five times the number of U.S. service members stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Roughly 1,000 guests will attend the ceremony itself.

  179. chicagofinance says:

    Oh that Capitol thing was real? I thought they were filming a remake of Scarface.

    grim says:
    January 20, 2021 at 7:54 am
    attempting to overthrow its government

    Will go down as the most pitiful attempt at an insurrection/coup in history. Should have spent some time researching the more effective coups in Latin America and around the world.

    Machine guns are generally an expected part of the attempt, they didn’t have any, idiots.

    Last time anyone will expect a mob of internet nerds to overthrow the government.

  180. chicagofinance says:

    Wait….. I thought it was a documentary…..

    No One says:
    January 20, 2021 at 8:54 am
    That worldview is exploding in culture. HBO’s series “Lovecraft Country” basically shows the US as a place where whites have no desires beyond tormenting and killing blacks, and its theme appears to be – kill whites before they kill you.

  181. chicagofinance says:

    “don’t throw the dice if you can’t pay the price…… NAW DON’T DO IT”

  182. The Great Pumpkin says:

    notpump,

    One of my favs, the financial samurai agrees. Give him a read, been following him for a long time.

    “Why Is United States Property So Cheap Compared To The Rest Of The World?
    Published: 02/26/2017 | Updated: 11/06/2018 by Financial Samurai 148 Comments

    One of the biggest conundrums today is trying to understand why the mass media and housing activists keep droning on about how expensive U.S. property prices are, when in reality, U.S. property prices are amongst the CHEAPEST in the developed world. Cheap US property is why I’m actively investing in real estate crowdfunding deals all across the country.

    Anybody who has actually spent time house hunting in Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo, Mumbai, Paris, London, Zurich, Stockholm, Sydney etc. realize how cheap the U.S. is. Do you think I’m just going to London to eat strawberries and cream at Wimbledon? Of course not! As a personal finance blogger who writes from first-hand experience, I’m diligently pounding the pavement to research the truth to share with all of you.

    If you don’t believe how cheap US property prices are, have a look at this chart by the OECD (The Organization for Economic Development And Co-operation).”

    “Biased Mass Media Manipulation

    Take a look at this SF-based Wired magazine tweet. You don’t have to read the article because it is the same populist verbiage about how it’s becoming increasingly difficult for the middle class to afford homes now.

    The magazine even goes so far as to write, “A family that makes $100,000 can’t afford to buy a house in most U.S. cities.”

    Are you kidding me? The median home price in America is roughly $240,000. Let’s say you put down a typical 20%. Your $192,000 mortgage at 4% is $917 a month. Let’s add another $200 for property taxes and maintenance for good measure.

    Is Wired saying that a household who makes $100,000 gross, or $80,000 after taxes, can’t afford $1,117 a month? $80,000 net a year equals $6,667 a month before any 401k contributions. Spending only 17% of your net income on housing is affordable. Even if this household only put down 10%, a $216,000 mortgage at 4% still only costs $1,234 a month.

    Now you know why there’s such distrust in the mass media. Either the writer at Wired magazine is incompetent or the writer has an agenda or both. One of the best media strategies is to tap into populist angst to make life better for themselves. The more enraged the population, the more views the article will get.”

    https://www.financialsamurai.com/why-is-united-states-property-so-cheap/

  183. The Great Pumpkin says:

    When there is blood in the streets..

    You aren’t getting a better opportunity to buy in SF or NYC. When it’s nerve wracking to sign the line, it’s usually a good time to buy.

  184. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Well that is what happens with an incomplete story, one that could have completed in many ways. They did not need to take over the house, they could have just paid the bills, taxes, mortgage (if their was one), etc, and left the house in her name. She was healthy enough at this point.
    Of course, then the govt would have taken it at the end if you did it this way. And they would have received nothing for the money they spent.
    What made this work was her health. That is huge. Healthy and old is much less expensive than sick and old.

    The bigger question is why not enough money saved to last a lifetime? Owned a house, had a pension, still not enough by a long shot. Not easy to do then, even harder now.
    Lib did it, and having a partner that is on board with that type of thinking makes all of the difference. That’s how it should work. Just like your example where the family did the right thing with great support. They managed her money better than the govt would have. My guess is this is the exception, not the rule, however.

    Today’s youth with no pension at all better invest correctly, or else.

    And watch the video I posted about a family that did all of the right things and had everything taken away by the “system.” I went through something similar. I know how that feels.

  185. Fabius Maximus says:

    Left, I’ve see a lot of GOP and the right try and whitewash MLK and his legacy. ((see what I did there?)

    Your comment on Fox and Parler start making sense. I am seeing a lot of GOP friends grabbing their pearls on Facebook and announcing their move to MeWe. Glad to see them gone. Saves me muting them every 30 days. The GOP friends in my left in my Facebook friends list are are those that didnt jump on the Donnie BS Express. People who worship Saint Ronnie, but got labeled RINO when they spoke up about what happened to their party. People whos political views are polar opposites of mine, but whom I can still have a civil political discussion with. The sad part is that some of those people are couples where one spouse went down the rabbit hole, while the other stayed sane.

    How did your pictures come out? Do you have that picture of the guy with the Stars and Bars hung on the wall yet?

  186. Phoenix says:

    Sounds interesting. Will put in queue.

    No One says:
    January 20, 2021 at 8:54 am
    That worldview is exploding in culture. HBO’s series “Lovecraft Country” basically shows the US as a place where whites have no desires beyond tormenting and killing blacks, and its theme appears to be – kill whites before they kill you.

  187. relo says:

    I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little @$$. Gonna kick some @$$ in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly an eagle. Gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some @$$. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little @$$. Rock, flag and eagle.

  188. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Where’s my free hea1thcare?”

    I cant wait for it. I had a kid in E R on Saturday night (they are ok). Still waiting for the b1lls to start showing up. I got a call on Monday from the h0spital. Do I have the $$$ for the upcoming test scheduled that day by the spec1alist.
    While I can write a check for $1700. How many families would have to make the hard choice to cancel.

    It cant come soon enough for this country.

  189. Very Stable Genius says:

    Congratulations President Biden!

  190. BRT says:

    There isn’t blood in the streets. There will be once evictions start.

  191. Very Stable Genius says:

    It was a close call but democracy survived.
    Let’s not elect crazy again.
    Next time we may not be so lucky.

    God bless President Biden and VP Harris.

    God bless America.

  192. Fabius Maximus says:

    “25,000 troops are surrounding the capital in a show of of force…” because the Orange One needed to try and hold on to power to avoid the upcoming lawsuits.

    He tried to k1ll the Republic to stay out of jail. The worst part is who enabled him and who is still supporting him.

    Are we great yet Gary!

  193. Fabius Maximus says:

    12:01, we made it!

  194. leftwing says:

    Picture I described looking down the boulevard looks great, thx for asking. As I mentioned, hangs between the one of the Velvet Revolution from Wencelas Square and the ship-to-shore signed transcript from the Gulf of Tonkin.

    BTW, I’m not active (and never have been) on Facebook. Good luck there.

  195. Hold my beer says:

    For Essex and Very Stable Genius

    I suspect they will dance the night away

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5iP0S1z9w

  196. No One says:

    Phoenix,
    I was such a nerdy teenager that I played the “Call of Cthulhu” roll playing game with friends in high school. Read Lovecraft stories then too. Otherwise I’d never have started watching. But this show doesn’t actually care about his horror mythos. It’s 99% about race hate. It’s the wokest show I’ve watched. Production values and acting aren’t great. I suspect it will win lots of awards.
    30 year will love it I think.

  197. leftwing says:

    Phoenix, yeah, youth certainly need more education on practical legal and financial matters. Seeing that clearly with my college grads.

    Interesting, it was so common to refer to a house purchase as the most substantial financial decision one would make. Not really. Long term, the value will be higher. Unless one does something radically stupid debt will be lower. Pretty easy decision there, actually.

    The most substantial financial decision one can make is marriage. That decision, as a primary earner, can absolutely wreck people financially and tangentially. Nothing else can come close to the depth of loss. The best life advice I can give anyone who would be the primary, and heaven forbid sole, wage earner contemplating a marriage is simple…just don’t. Ever.

  198. leftwing says:

    And Phoenix, feel bad asking since you’ve shared so much already but….

    You have any view on increasing false testimony penalties, but only to protected classes?

    I guess the pain that Central Park bird watcher would have suffered is somehow more a priority or deeper than what you experience.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zthQPe41w24&ab_channel=TheAerosmithVault

  199. leftwing says:

    I guess Joe is making up for his radio slight on “you ain’t black” by deciding to have Amazing Grace performed on an endless loop these two days…..lol

  200. Gary says:

    Are we great yet Gary!

    We were on our way. An outsider came in and fought for classic America… criminal justice reform, opportunity zones, poverty rates among minorities lowest in history, energy independence, the First Step Act, the CTE act, Mexico/US/Canada trade agreement, deregulation, peace in middle east, no wars, troops home… so many accomplishments and here we are, back to the apology tour, higher taxes, more regulation, nixing the pipeline, dependency. national voting instead of the electoral college, killing the filibuster, DC statehood, simple majorities, stacking the SC, reeducation for anyone not backing the s0c1al1st regime… it’s a sad day for true Americans.

  201. leftwing, looking to hit a little blue chirping bird this afternoon says:

    Off to shoot. enjoy your days.

  202. No One says:

    I think that the Fed/Treasury policies of low/negative real rates, asset price inflation, too big to fail are the most “trickle down” of all policies. Cheap money and expensive financial assets just favors wealthy bankers, asset managers, and people with lots of invested assets.

    I’m benefitting at the moment but this isn’t good for longer term investors or conservative investors. It’s not good for long term growth supported by savings and investment.

    Some of the biggest fans of these policies are on the left, ironically.

  203. 3b says:

    No One: That’s because many on the left are the biggest hypocrites.

  204. 3b says:

    Biden looks his age, old and tired.

  205. Fast Eddie says:

    50 people have died of Covid on O’Biden’s watch since he became indoctrinated… I mean inaugurated.

  206. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Back to the days of empty platitudes. When you come up short , it’s brcause you are and you are oppressed. America is fundamentally evil and we kneed to tear it down. When the news doesn’t fit the agenda, don’t report it. Welcome back Obama 2.0.

  207. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    You are ….insert identity here…

  208. 30 year realtor says:

    Leftwing,

    You are setting up an argument about race no longer being a factor in our society. We see only the content of one’s character when looking at other, is what you are saying.
    I am saying that is not true. Please spare me the we elected a Black president argument. So please explain all the white supremacists that are being identified as having participated in the seige of the Capitol. Explain why the FBI and other agencies say right-wing extremist groups which include white supremacy groups are the greatest threat of terror.

    My prediction is that the arrests, investigations and prosecutions related to the seige of the Capitol will lead to uncovering networks of white supremacists in military and law enforcement.

  209. Walking says:

    Phoenix, here is a nice Po-Po song for you to listen to when the weather gets better and you get out for a ride..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvJ-lWOZMYg

  210. D-FENS says:

    Trump is gone. Now, for ratings, media will report daily emergencies and “domestic terrorist” incidents as clueless scapegoats are labeled “traitors” and stripped of their civil rights. Leftists will gladly cheer them on and give up civil rights for “safety”.

    “My prediction is that the arrests, investigations and prosecutions related to the seige of the Capitol will lead to uncovering networks of white supremacists in military and law enforcement.”

  211. Phoenix says:

    “My prediction is that the arrests, investigations and prosecutions related to the seige of the Capitol will lead to uncovering networks of white supremacists in military and law enforcement.”

    And this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXZFy6YVrU

    walking, good tune.

  212. njtownhomer says:

    Now Trump is gone, Putin is gonna release dirty pictures of his, DeutcheBank is gonna go to court for his foreclosure, his kids dirty business deals will be visible, and yet the idiots cry today will still give him a longlasting pardon.

  213. Walking says:

    Phoenix, yeah it was nice to hear a song where guitars workwell together for a change.

  214. Libturd says:

    Shouldn’t we at least wait for Biden to fcuk up before we attack the party? Or are we still in the full blown, make sh1t up to complain about mode of the past four years?

  215. Libturd says:

    Would you morons like to hear how stupid Trump sounded for the past four years?

    If the shoe was on the other foot, Biden would have already started comparing his crowds at the inauguration to former inauguration crowds and since the Nasdaq hit a record high, he would have said, “See? It only took me one day to create the greatest economy ever.” Biden’s wife would have copied word for word, parts of Melania’s inauguration speech, but the press would go easy on her considering her lack of ability to speak English.

    Name me one criminal that Obama pardoned who actually worked with Obama? Just one.

  216. Fast Eddie says:

    249 people have died from covid since O’Biden’s inauguration.

  217. Fast Eddie says:

    Or are we still in the full blown, make sh1t up to complain about mode of the past four years?

    You mean this made up sh1t?

    https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/mark-simone/content/2019-10-09-a-list-of-some-of-the-fake-news-stories-by-the-media-against-donald-trump/

  218. Libturd says:

    That’s a fairly short list Gary.

  219. Juice Box says:

    Joe Biden is going to be the GOAT folks just wait and see the next bunch of new programs with Trillions of deficit spending, he is going to make it rain so much money you are going to need a wheel barrow to cart it all around.

  220. Juice Box says:

    2 million views.. Hilarious…. Robinhood Strategy to get rich and not have to work. I am going to have to follow these two on Tick Tock..

    Quote….

    “I see a stock going up then I buy it and when it stop going up I sell it, and I do that over and over again”

    https://twitter.com/RampCapitalLLC/status/1350875874481025032

  221. relo says:

    Eric Holder.

  222. 3b says:

    Lib: it is a short list. But it’s relevant. The media were no angels in the Trump fiasco, and they bear part of the blame. They should not have been adding to the fire by making stuff up. I would like to think we could all agree on that.

  223. 3b says:

    Juice: The institutions are following Robbinhood ; this will not end well!

  224. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The Journal’s Angus Loten reports that corporate technology recruiters are hoping that future moves concerning immigration and jobs will include efforts to expand the pool of available information technology job candidates, many of whom are reliant on H-1B visas.

    “Now more than ever in this all-digital, work-from-anywhere world, every industry needs IT support,” said Salesforce.com CIO Jo-ann Olsovsky.

    The bigger picture. The previous administration made it more difficult to recruit foreign talent, saying such efforts took away jobs from U.S. citizens. But Arif Janmohamed, a partner at tech-sector investor Lightspeed Venture Partners, tells Mr. Loten that such measures can hurt the economy by sending skilled workers to competitors outside the U.S.

    Every year, he said, the tech industry generates thousands more jobs than can be filled by qualified American workers. “Even today, in the middle of the worst economic downturn in decades, tech unemployment remains in the low single digits,” Mr. Janmohamed said.

  225. Libturd says:

    Yes, the media is partially to blame and always will be.

  226. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The media is so biased, it’s sad. They obsessively used their vehicle to run over trump on a daily basis. It’s so obvious to anyone outside the left. That’s not right, but it is what it is.

    3b says:
    January 20, 2021 at 5:10 pm
    Lib: it is a short list. But it’s relevant. The media were no angels in the Trump fiasco, and they bear part of the blame. They should not have been adding to the fire by making stuff up. I would like to think we could all agree on that.

  227. Crushednjmillenial says:

    BRT at 11:55 . . .

    No blood in the streets when the evictions start rolling again. 90+% of people either move into a new rental home or move in with family or friends, at worst, after an eviction. It’s very few that actually end up in a homeless shelter or sleeping in their car.

    At this point the eviction moratorium, federal or state, is just leftism. It’s an uncompensated taking from property owners who are not being paid (non-payment). It’s just maniacal, raving nonsense when the “law” states that evictions are not permitted for reasons other than non-payment (what does Covid have to do with a tenant that plays music loud every night? or who steals a bucket of paint from the maintenance shed? Or who gets a new puppy in a “no pets” building?).

    In ten days, the worst tenants in NJ have gone one year without paying rent. The eviction moratorium started on 3/19/20, but February non-payment wouldn’t make it to lockout by that date unless the eviction trial and court officer all moved very fast. Re “no blood in the streets” – I don’t believe even the most pro-tenant activist in the world could have imagined in March 2020 that it would get this far. Our fellow upstanding citizens that haven’t paid a huge portion of a year’s rent are perhaps aware that it was a good deal while it lasted.

  228. Crushednjmillenial says:

    Juice Box at 5:07 . . .

    That’s a really funny tweet all around. Both the commentary and the underlying video.

    I wonder if J. Powell would start sweating if he saw it. Like a gambler that’s got his last dollars on the table while the roulette wheel is spinning.

  229. AP says:

    Wake me up at the end of 2021 and we’ll see how things stand, with the new administration, the economy, covid, etc. Or if something big happens.

    The blue team, red team, right/left1sm stuff is super boring.

  230. Juice Box says:

    re: Crushed “That’s a really funny tweet all around.”

    He stole my strategy. I don’t go to work and I trade stocks all day. It’s win win nothing ever goes down ever. What could possibly go wrong?

  231. Juice Box says:

    Hillary Clinton for Attorney General!

    That would really make Trump skip bail.

  232. Fast Eddie says:

    O’Biden falling asleep as a stack of executive orders sit beside him to be signed. He fumbled with a mask, mumbled as he read notes handed to him and signed one order that he wasn’t really sure what was in it… something about equity but he wasn’t really sure.

  233. njtownhomer says:

    any TV cameras waiting to take a peek for Don The Exotic from Mar-a-Lago?

    We got too much addicted the reality TV star.

  234. AP says:

    “Bite your lip, and take the trip. Though there may be wet roads ahead and you cannot slip.”

    Remember this, saying it for good, building a life’s project with selfishness at the base is like building a beautiful mansion on frozen ice.

    Reject anger/violence and greed and if you want to watch the fireworks, do it from a safe distance.

  235. leftwing says:

    “Please spare me the we elected a Black president argument.”

    Please st0p telling me what y0u assume I am g0ing t0 say and then arguing against it….as I said when I stated I d0n’t d0 “-isms”…d0ing s0 is the fcuking height 0f arr0gance as it assumes y0u kn0w me 0r s0me0ne else….

    “Y0u are setting up an argument ab0ut race n0 l0nger being a fact0r in 0ur s0ciety. We see 0nly the c0ntent 0f 0ne’s character when l00king at 0ther, is what y0u are saying.
    I am saying that is n0t true.”

    And yet again y0u plumb the depths 0f Pumpkin-like reading c0mprehensi0n.

    I never said any such thing. What I actually said is that the statement fr0m King – 0f which I wh0leheartedly agree and supp0rt – is that success in these matters is attained when s0ciety is c0l0r blind.

    I and my ilk d0 n0t see c0l0r…fcuk, I w0uld hire a purple elephant and fire my br0ther-in-law if the purple elephant w0uld make me m0re m0ney. Y0u and y0ur ilk…pr0tected classes, qu0tas, preference hiring, aff1rmative acti0n….the 0NLY thing y0u see is c0l0r.

  236. notapumpsupporter says:

    Pumpkin,

    US real estate is the cheapest when compared to average income.. So there is room to grow… Add another 3T USD added to the economy which will further inflate.. The redfin estimate keeps growing every day. This 3T isn’t just staying in US, but is also inflating assets even as far as India… So where do you put your $$$… I bet in RE for most part..

    What are the side-effects of this on the economy as a whole is up for debate. Is is good for common man and middle-class is upto debate.

    The so called SMEs on this forum, with 50 years of experience have no clue.. I own RE abroad and I know how inflated they are.. Mostly due to inflation….

    A 100X100 plot in outskirts of a major citi in a developing world will cost you easy 500K plus.

    I under stand the SMEs on this forum have an excuse for failing badly in predicting RE rise due to COVID-Interest rate but the same people didn’t figure out the RE rise due to people wanting to move to suburbs..

    So, the moral of the story is, Nobody got a clue if they say they are experts… Only person I know who predicted the bubble is Grim in 2005..

    Back in 2018, I posted for an opinion on buying in NNJ and most SMEs told me it’s a bad idea, it will crash, this is a shitty house, overpriced, low quality bla bla… Since then, prices have gone north even excluding COVID-event… When you continued to advise to buy ASAP

    I thought some of these guys who type 50 paragraphs are some sort of experts.. But realized late that they have ZERO clue.. I did end up buying in NNJ just before the $hit hit the fan and I’m glad I did.. I just sold one of them for a 55K profit ( after transaction cost)

    I should’ve listed to you seriously.. I’m not saying you predicted it right, but I’m confident the SMEs are full of nothing..

  237. ExEssex says:

    I’m terrible – wife & daughter watching the inauguration –
    I take one look at Biden and say, “He doesn’t know where he is…!”
    They did NOT find that amusing. You guys are rubbing off on me.

  238. RentL0rd says:

    Before we forget, let’s run the numbers:

    We lost 4 Million jobs net in the last 4 years – the first time we lost jobs in a long time. Deficit went from about $500 Billion to $3.3 Trillion in 4 years.

    We really need to collectively say God Bless Joe Biden and God Bless America.

  239. leftwing says:

    “Would you morons like to hear how stupid Trump sounded for the past four years?”

    Lib, I love you brother, but who the fcuk actually cares?

    Truly, one of the last criteria I would select for job performance….but, hey, I understand everyone has their own preferences and priorities…..

  240. leftwing says:

    “We lost 4 Million jobs net in the last 4 years – the first time we lost jobs in a long time. Deficit went from about $500 Billion to $3.3 Trillion in 4 years. We really need to collectively say God Bless Joe Biden and God Bless America.”

    Possibly one of the most stupidly obtuse posts on here in years…..Geee, I wonder what may have caused these events….not really sure, can’t remember….I think something may have been up during the past year but not sure….maybe I should google ‘major world events 2020’ since I don’t know….

    Dumbass. LOL.

  241. Libturd says:

    Leftwing,

    True dat, but there is a compromise between the two. This lack of compromise is how Trump incited hatred, which in turn, excited the neo-nazis who embraced the Bannon style populism. You see, every time a young black man was executed by an overzealous cop, instead of admitting a cop did something wrong, or that there MIGHT be a systemic issue. Trump instead would ALWAYS tweet about black on black crime in Chicago (as if Obama was somehow responsible for the actions of these dumb racist cops). So, Gary can try and pin this sh1t on the press. But the truth is, Trump needed to excite the neo-nazi, white supremacist, scapegoat vote to get elected in the first place. Where he majorly screwed up was his continued placating of those assholes. From the white supremacist rallies in Charlottesville, right up to the insurrection. He was still praising the acts of these hateful assholes. The press didn’t do this. Trump did this all by himself. And Bannon gets a pardon? Then, the majority of the cowardly Republicans including their lying hypocritical (now minority) leader in the Senate are too selfish too remove the loser in chief who made such an idiot of himself that he couldn’t even be seen at the inauguration.

    We all know the peanut circus will continue here uninterrupted. But rest assured, there is nothing the Left could possibly do to even come close to the flaming tire fire that this past administration represented. Worse yet, we’ve been trying to tell you so for four years, to no avail.

    So remember, every time you think you are trying to score a political point for the foreseeable future. Your credibility is worse than shot. Why? We told you so. Why would you think we care what you have to say now?

  242. BRT says:

    No blood in the streets when the evictions start rolling again. 90+% of people either move into a new rental home or move in with family or friends, at worst, after an eviction. It’s very few that actually end up in a homeless shelter or sleeping in their car.

    I totally agree. I was speaking more metaphorically. The demand for housing in NYC has fallen by the wayside and will only get worse. I actually think the Italian mafia returns in NYC. With the lawlessness, there’s probably big money to be had getting people to move out through intimidation. It wasn’t long ago that mafia had a piece of every neighborhood in some form or another.

  243. 3b says:

    Crushed: landlords might be very wary of renting to those that were previously evicted.

  244. 3b says:

    Essex: I watched a bit of the inauguration, and as I said previously he is a tired old man. People honestly have to ask themselves is this the best we could do ?

  245. crushednjmillenial says:

    Governor Election 2021 . . .

    “[Governor Murphy] has, however, worked diligently with restaurants and business to get them open.”

    Like, for example, when he urinated on Attilis Gym with every drop of government power he had.

    https://hudsoncountyview.com/letter-new-jersey-residents-should-rally-to-re-elect-murphy-retired-educator-says/

  246. The Great Pumpkin says:

    A lot of people, including myself, move from California to Austin because of the hype and the perception that California and Austin are reasonably comparable in lifestyle. We found that to be far from the case.
    Here’s what we learned, or 10 reasons why Austin is not the “California of Texas.” But first, what does Austin have in common with California?

    https://apple.news/AYTnC5afzTKS53CqU08wBDw

  247. ExEssex says:

    7:23 it accomplished a goal. You win the POTUS and next in line is a woman of color.
    Progress comes in fits and starts .

  248. BRT says:

    lol, he shut them down all summer when they could have had a great buffer to sustain themselves into the fall. I really can’t understand how anyone can think Murphy has done anything right.

  249. Juice Box says:

    Dudes the Governor vetoed a bill to help the restaurants and businesses that was passed by both the democratic legislature and senate unanimously. He is tripping and I don’t mean in the mary jane way.

  250. notapumpsupporter says:

    Another great prediction from the so-called SMEs on NYC… LOL.. Just give it 12 more months and see why people make prediction with zero clue.. Only grim makes sense when it matters…

    grim says:
    March 15, 2020 at 8:38 am
    There has never been a better time to buy a house, where else will you quarantine?

    BRT says:
    January 20, 2021 at 7:10 pm
    No blood in the streets when the evictions start rolling again. 90+% of people either move into a new rental home or move in with family or friends, at worst, after an eviction. It’s very few that actually end up in a homeless shelter or sleeping in their car.

    I totally agree. I was speaking more metaphorically. The demand for housing in NYC has fallen by the wayside and will only get worse. I actually think the Italian mafia returns in NYC. With the lawlessness, there’s probably big money to be had getting people to move out through intimidation. It wasn’t long ago that mafia had a piece of every neighborhood in some form or another.

  251. ExEssex says:

    8:23 I recall that Grim quote and I am positive he was being sarcastic.
    But no, for those that can afford it, but away. At my age and with hindsight owning a home is really a bit of an albatross around the neck.
    It’s also highly overrated. Think about that.

  252. ExEssex says:

    but=buy

  253. ExEssex says:

    And to add to the above owning rental property became much less desirable this past go-round with the pandemic. I don’t envy anyone trying to collect rent these days.

  254. 3b says:

    The Alter Ego makes their nightly return. It’s bizarre and somehow disturbing.

  255. notapumpsupporter says:

    Another piece of gem from the expert… Go figure.. Just proved some people have zero clue but think they have all the clues in their beautiful minds..

    3b says:
    March 23, 2020 at 1:00 pm
    Stock market will come back subject to how the government aid/Fed efforts evolve. But not to it’s previous highs as it was over inflated. Real estate in my opinion will be hammered. People will think twice before signing on to a big mortgage and tax bill.

  256. notapumpsupporter says:

    More golden words from the golden boys.. Go figure

    3b says:
    March 23, 2020 at 2:30 pm
    30 year Still building Mc mansions in my town although a good few were sitting prior to all of this. I just think in general this will spook buyers and make them think twice before paying 450k for a 3 bed colonial. People are already being laid off and taking pay cuts. And there are people currently under contract attorney review, and closing dates out a month or so. What if these people lose their jobs or take significant pay cuts? What happens to these transactions? Rates will stay low, but the sellers market is over. It will be a market of extreme caution for potential buyers going forward.

  257. Grim says:

    Locked 2.25 15

    Good or bad?

  258. Grim says:

    Provident was the lowest btw.

  259. Phoenix says:

    Sleepy Joe must have popped some Modafinil as he has been up way past his bedtime tonight.

  260. ExEssex says:

    Zillow, in an end-of-year report, added further validation to the narrative of Austin being a top relocation destination by predicting the city’s housing market will be the nation’s hottest in 2021. The median list price for homes in the Austin area was up 24%, year-over-year, as of December 2020 — the largest increase amongst the nation’s 50 largest markets.

  261. notapumpsupporter says:

    Grim,

    2:25 15 is great assuming you didn’t pay too much closing just in case you need to refinance.. But you could go lower but probably takes time… Also why would you do a 15 not 30 when the money is cheap and mortgage is a hedge against inflation

    Check this forum ( slickdeals.net) out for ANY deals before you buy or anything..

    https://slickdeals.net/f/14173061-07-21-2020-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-and-sd-reviews-30year-2-75-15year-2-25-etc

  262. Phoenix says:

    “You have any view on increasing false testimony penalties, but only to protected classes?”

    Left, let me put it this way. Did it matter that he was black? What if he was a white bird watcher, would that _____ still have made that phone call?
    I think so. It’s what they do. It’s a power thing.
    Now, you make the call. They ask for a description. She describes. Was she racist, or just describing? And if she was just describing, and the bird watcher was white, that’s what she would have described.
    But of course no law would be made over that, as he would not be a victim of the same crime of false allegation now would he?

    So now there is a law to protect anyone except those who are not in the “protected” class. Time to get a DNA test to find out if I am .001 % of something “protected” so when I get to court I can prove a crime was committed against me.

  263. joyce says:

    I am looking forward to Biden allowing re-importation of pharmaceuticals and setting up the federal government as a producer of generics.

  264. Phoenix says:

    “setting up the federal government as a producer of generics.”

    Hell they can’t even inject the drugs the professionals made for them.
    Just wait till it’s all contaminated and you can’t sue for damages.

  265. Bystander says:

    NotSockpuppet,

    If you are so good at pulling out gems, why not pull ones where Blumpy sh&ts in his boots and declares his roaring 20s prediction dead? Try March or April timeframe.

  266. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joe Lockhart@joelockhart

    if the shoe fits….

    Quote Tweet
    Ryan Struyk@ryanstruyk · 2h
    Sen. Rand Paul on Fox News: “If you read his speech and listen to it carefully, much of it is thinly-veiled innuendo calling us White supremacists, calling us racists, calling us every name in the book, calling us people who don’t tell the truth.”

  267. Bystander says:

    Poor Ron. His son is a f-in hack with zero integrity. His father writes articles about the real pandemic being our debt, says to cut military spending (dept of Ed too), stop middle east intervention and balance budget. Says it will do more for freedom than anything. Integrity is not passed via DNA.

  268. Grim says:

    Also why would you do a 15 not 30 when the money is cheap and mortgage is a hedge against inflation

    Payment stays basically the same (3.9 to 2.25), cut 6 years off the term, and will save about $100k in interest.

    Seems like a win for me.

  269. Fast Eddie says:

    Are Black and Hispanic Trump supporters rac1sts as well? Or is this symbol only applied to white people?

  270. Juice Box says:

    IT is now day two of 100 million shots in 100 days.

    We are negative two million shots right now, better start that plan of opening centers with FEMA and the national guard soon.

    3500 people lost their lives on Joes Watch do to COVID-19.

    Welcome to Joe Biden’s America.

    Welcome to Joe Bidens America.

  271. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Welcome to Joe’s dystopian America.

    Where Biden is going to vanquish racism by making race an integral component of everything on a daily basis. Where he chooses the best for the job based on how many identity boxes they check.

    And he’s going to unite us all by directing the government power against citizenry over political differences.

  272. Fast Eddie says:

    You’re about to see the difference of a 50 year, bloated desk jockey and the previous administrator who was relentless; a hellion, a fighter, an agitator, working ceaselessly and with a cause. This guy now has to be reminded who and what he is. After he signed those executive orders yesterday, the press started asking him questions and his assistant was screaming for them to exit the room! That “fweedom” biotch is going to be your president sooner than you thought.

  273. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Biden is going to show us what real leadership is by hiding in his office with a mask on his face for no discernible reason but propaganda. And he’s going to throw up fences and barriers all over the capital to keep back the scary MAGA people.

  274. 3b says:

    The Alter Ego was busy last night. Sad.

  275. Juice Box says:

    So Biden just put a person who is not a scientist or a doctor in charge Federal Covid response the new of White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator to replace Dr. Birx, who retired. A former Private Equity CEO and Facebook board member Jeffrey Zients.

    Biden’s executive order yesterday on Covid-19 did not order FEMA and the National guard to start building Federal Vaccination centers.

    100 Million shots @98days and counting.

  276. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My call was always for the roaring 20’s to take off already. Can you admit that I would have been dead on had this black swan event not come about. Could you imagine how strong this economy would be right now had the unemployment rate not forcefully been smacked down?

    Bystander says:
    January 20, 2021 at 11:08 pm
    NotSockpuppet,

    If you are so good at pulling out gems, why not pull ones where Blumpy sh&ts in his boots and declares his roaring 20s prediction dead? Try March or April timeframe.

  277. Juice Box says:

    NJ has vaccinated 384,431 so far. We missed the entire first week of Dec 14th (NJ did not file paperwork) and started late on Dec 22nd, so it’s 30 days of vaccinations today. That is an average of 12,800 shots a day.

    At this pace it is going to be another 11 months to get through the 4,267,789 eligible in the 1A essential and 1B – Individuals at High Risk category. If they can double the vaccination rate to 25,000 a day we could be through 1B by the middle of the summer.

    The next category then is general population 4,614,401. Minus the children that would be another 9 months of vaccinations at this pace. Assuming that is the case we are doing 25,000 shots a day we would have the majority of NJ vaccinated by the Winter of 2022.

    This is all assuming there will be vaccine available.

    Actual numbers of shots per day.

    10/20 10,525
    10/19 17,584
    10/18 17,515
    10/17 6,308
    10/16 12,741
    10/15 26,526

  278. BRT says:

    If we could double our rate, we might be on par with North/South Dakota and West Virginia. We need continual acceleration. Is there a reason why we can’t vaccinate people on weekends? For someone who continually declares emergency powers, he sure doesn’t act like there is an emergency.

    In the media, I keep reading, a hundred million doses in a hundred days, that means 1 million per day. No it doesn’t. It’s a growth curve, not a linear relationship. That being said, the whole 100 million in a hundred days is stupid. It’s a number pulled out of a hat.

  279. BRT says:

    Trying to get our elders to sign up for vaccinations is becoming a trying task. We’ve resorted to just signing them up ourselves.

  280. Fabius Maximus says:

    File this one with the Healthcare Plan and Infrastructure Week.

    Ana Cabrera @AnaCabrera
    NEW: Joe Biden and his advisers are inheriting no #coronavirus vaccine distribution plan to speak of from the Trump administration, sources tell CNN.

    “There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch,” one source said.

  281. Libturd says:

    Fab… no sh1t sherlock. It was a hoax. The plan was to let everyone get sick.

  282. Libturd says:

    I see the Biden administration is prepared to blame every failed promise on Trump.

    There really is no difference between the parties.

    Jeffrey Zients is no different than Betsy Devos.

  283. Fast Eddie says:

    Not even 24 hours into the administration and they’re already blaming someone else to spotlight their failure.

  284. Hold my beer says:

    Fast

    When your hero wasn’t golfing or dreaming up ways to praise himself he was watching TV and tweeting. Not exactly hard working.

    At least he didn’t paint the White House gold. Although they did trash the rose garden,

  285. Fabius Maximus says:

    Not even 24 hours into the administration and they’re already clearing out the garbage. So glad to see VOA returning to normal service.

    Biden has already fired three of Trump’s worst appointees.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/biden-michael-pack-kathleen-kraninger-peter-robb.amp

  286. Phoenix says:

    “Trying to get our elders to sign up for vaccinations is becoming a trying task.”

    After a while the body outlives the brain. It’s why we should not have 70 year old geezers running the country.

    Let’s bring back shuffleboard and Old Milwaukee.

  287. Phoenix says:

    “There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch,” one source said.”

    Expected start date 1/2024

  288. Fast Eddie says:

    Slate… there’s a non-biased periodical for ya.

  289. Phoenix says:

    “Not even 24 hours into the administration and they’re already blaming someone else to spotlight their failure.”

    Where is the surprise?

  290. Libturd says:

    None whatsoever Phoenix. By next week, we’ll be counting the days that Biden spends at Camp David.

  291. Fast Eddie says:

    Nobody answered my questions: Are Black and Hispanic Trump supporters rac1sts? I want a f.ucking answer.

  292. Fast Eddie says:

    11,000 jobs have been eliminated as a result of the Keystone pipeline project termination via O’Biden executive order; 8000 of them union jobs. Any questions?

  293. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    The correct answer is no. But it would be unpopular.

    Call me what you want, I’ve been called everything you can imagine and I don’t give a ____. It’s funny, when you went through what I did, one gift you get is a sense of freedom where you no longer care much about most things.

    I support many things Trump was for. I also support many things Biden is for.
    I despise many things from each one of them. I refused to vote for either.

    So I am hated by both sides. Ask me if I care.

  294. Libturd says:

    Well, we no longer need the pipeline now that the tar sands have been discovered. It’s always about economics. Though, it’s convenient when you can claim to be green simultaneously.

  295. Juice Box says:

    Hilarious spin already. No vaccine distribution plan to speak of?

    It’s a vaccine allocation plan not distribution plan. Go ask any State Governor if you don’t believe me or check their tweets. They have been complaining since day one about their allocations.

    If Jeffrey Zients actually worked at the CDC he would know that so instead he just tossed the entire HHS and CDC under the bus.

    The real time tracking system they use is called Tiberius. Manufacturing, supply chain, delivery and administration of the vaccine, among other data. It enables states and federal agencies to see their orders and track vaccine shipments. The program covers 50 states, eight territories, the Veterans Health Administration, the Bureau of Prisons, the Indian Health Service and the departments of Defense and State.

    The CDC folks and HHS come up with the plans Jeff, everything from Anthrax through
    Zoster (the shingles). You are going to need them so stop tossing them under the bus.

  296. Libturd says:

    If I was worth a quarter billion, I would be Mr. FixIt too. Though, more in the Ray Donovan vain.

  297. No One says:

    “100m doses in 100 days” is the new “a chicken in every pot”.
    While our NJ governor offers “some pot for every chick”

    My wife tells me that the thing some are doing is to hang out around medical centers giving the vaccine and be there at night when they know the vaccines have to be used or thrown away, so anyone who is around and put their name on a waitlist has a chance to get it.
    Sounds like family and friends of people in the medical center who have an inside scoop on when that happens are the ones taking advantage right now.
    I don’t know how they make sure they get their second dose at the right time.

  298. Libturd says:

    My guess is that they’ll be assigned the second dose when they get the first.

    I went through on Tuesday without a hitch. I guess they got the message that they were overscreening. They didn’t require anything besides the confirmation email. It took 5 minutes (mostly walking) from entering the doors, to getting the vaccine.

    I got pretty sore all over and around 7pm for the last two nights, needed a nap. Otherwise, no side effects.

    Still, not sure how they plan to ramp up.

  299. Juice Box says:

    Did Joe Biden just start a trade war with Cananda?

    https://twitter.com/jkenney

    The United States is our most important ally & trading partner.

    As friends & allies, we are deeply disturbed that one of
    @POTUS
    first actions was to rescind the Presidential permit for Keystone XL Pipeline border crossing.

    That’s not how you treat a friend & ally.

    https://twitter.com/jkenney

  300. 3b says:

    Fast : They can get jobs washing old people. That’s what many sophisticated educated liberals will say.

  301. Fast Eddie says:

    sophisticated educated liberals…

    This is an oxymoron… or are s0c1al1st liberals just m0rons?

  302. Juice Box says:

    re : “pot for every chick”

    Gov Murphy screwed up. He should have signed the legislation as is and worried about the under 21 crowd later.

    Seems the far left want in addition to 70% of the tax revenue zero penalties for underage smoking or possession, not so much as any record that the kids are smoking or possession. No record, no ticket, no fine etc, no interaction with the police. Cops are to leave them be and turn a blind eye.

    We shall see if that comes to pass.

  303. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Sure looks like it. Maybe they did not give Hunter the kickbacks he was asking for.

  304. BRT says:

    After a while the body outlives the brain. It’s why we should not have 70 year old geezers running the country.

    Let’s bring back shuffleboard and Old Milwaukee.

    I keep telling people this. My friends and I are all entering 40. We constantly complain about how irrational and illogical our parents in our late 60s have become. Moreover, they were high IQ individuals in their lives. Why anyone would want to elect someone beyond age 70, especially if they even show a hint of mental decline, is beyond me. Would anyone actually get in a car if Mitch McConnel, Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden was driving?

  305. 3b says:

    Fast: I have heard it more than a few times. Some of these so called compassionate liberals have contempt for the blue collar truck driver, and delivery man/woman, the clerks in the super markets, the janitors, and all the rest. They think they are beneath them. I have seen it and heard it multiple times, and often times it comes from those whose parents were blue collar working class.

  306. BRT says:

    Now that they shutdown the pipeline, they can transport via more dangerous and less efficient mechanisms like by truck and train.

  307. BRT says:

    That’s because too many of them sit around all day filling out spreadsheets collecting more money than they are worth. It’s always hilarious when they get a quote from the plumber and consider it outrageous, but they couldn’t do it themselves if you gave them a year.

  308. 3b says:

    BRT: I agree, and then they try to negotiate and get the price down, of course they believe they are entitled to every dime they earn and more. They are too stupid to realize AI can come for their job before a plumber s.

  309. BRT says:

    I ran into that yesterday. The mailman delivered to the right number, wrong street. The person puts the package out with a note saying so. As they pull out of their driveway and take off. They literally passed the home it was supposed to be delivered to 2 blocks down, but can’t be bothered to take 10 steps out of their car and drop off a package themselves.

    They were redoing our roads a few months ago. One of the road crew was cousins with a person in the neighborhood. It got back to them, our neighborhood was the least friendly in town. The moms on the mass group text were like “oh my god, let’s make them goodie bags to show how nice they are!”. It took all the power in the world for me to not chime in saying maybe just take your empty trash cans back so they can pave the road for you…and maybe just wave hi instead of acting like they are “the help”.

    You should see the disdain they have for the PSEG workers once the power goes back on in my home prior to theirs.

  310. notapumpsupporter says:

    How much weight does new posts from SMEs’s have, when we have golden words and accurate expert predictions….

    3b says:
    January 21, 2021 at 11:50 am
    Fast : They can get jobs washing old people. That’s what many sophisticated educated liberals will say.

    3b says:
    April 10, 2020 at 8:53 am
    A lot of one truck builders in my town doing home rehabs, buying an existing house then gutting and redoing it, then asking 600 to 700k plus 15k in taxes. Then there is the Mc mansion building going on as well, some with 900k and up asking prices, and 20 to 30k in taxes. I don’t see how or why this will continue going forward after we move beyond the pandemic. I think younger people buying will re-evaluate that kind of financial commitment. Big difference from my generation when we were buying houses in our 20s and doing it on one income.

  311. Juice Box says:

    Lib- re: “we no longer need the pipeline now”

    The oil trains keep running to New Jersey, and have no plans of stopping anytime soon.

    Today WTI is about $9 a barrel more expensive than the Canadian stuff out of Ft. McMurray, and many times the Canadian stuff is even cheaper. When the existing pipelines fill up which they do the overcapacity is pumped into rail cars and discounted. It ends up here many times in NJ a the Phillips 66 refinery in Linden, and you can see the massive amount of rail cars stored off the side of the NJ Turnpike North right before exit 13. They are all full of oil shipped via Rail. It takes the Canadian Rail lines right to Philly, or on CXS rail from Montreal to New Jersey right down the Hudson river, through Bergen County etc. Pretty impressive trains 2-3 miles long with 1400 cars sometimes.

  312. Libturd says:

    I’m on your side with this pipeline. The environmental concern is a complete joke. Especially after the companying wanting it agreed to pay for such computer controls to make it the safest pipeline in the world. What people don’t realize is the symbolism this pipeline has become. It’s just another example of divisive politics over what’s best for the country. Meanwhile, we have the same exact pipelines running east west and south across the country. Even north too, but just not to Alberta.

    The cancelling of the pipeline was easy to pick low hanging fruit. It could have been left for the future benefit just as well. But economics is always the biggest driver. Right now, we don’t need it. So much for unity.

    Now how stupid was it to waste billions on that Mexican Wall?

  313. 3b says:

    BRT: We have seen that as well. We drop off mail to our neighbors that was mistakenly delivered to us; it’s no big deal. Others? It’s beneath them. I see it predominantly among 1 st and second generation white ethnics.

  314. 3b says:

    Notapumpspumps: Please get help. Drugs, therapy some combination there of. Assistance is only a phone call away.

  315. Fast Eddie says:

    Now how stupid was it to waste billions on that Mexican Wall?

    Not nearly as much as every failed, liberal program of the past 50 years.

  316. JUice Box says:

    Lib the Border Wall is just another deterrent and more humane than landmines.

    For the last 10 years the Border patrol apprehended on average about 400,000 people illegally crossing which means the numbers are much higher. We spend tens of billions annually on enforcement of our borders. There are nearly 20,000 border patrol agents alone, the costs are huge.

    Unchecked immigration? We already have millions of legal immigrants every year, do we actually need millions of illegal ones too? What is it going to be under Sleepy Joe?

  317. notapumpsupporter says:

    Superb analysis

    3b says:
    December 30, 2019 at 9:17 am
    30 year I suspect they are falling because even with low interest rates and a booming economy prices and property taxes are too high. Low rates have kept prices inflated. Throw in student loans and cost of day care plus modest wage increases and there is the answer in my opinion. Back in the 80s when we started out. Student loans were not an issue, and one salary was all you needed for a house in a nice Bergen Co town. And property taxes were not outrageous. This generation got screwed.

  318. leftwing says:

    “I don’t know how they make sure they get their second dose at the right time.”

    When i got my shot this week the phones were ringing off the hooks…party line was no appointments available until more shipments….chatting with the girl at intake doing double duty checking me in and answering the phones she confirmed they have supply but segregate that earmarked for second dose.

    Self fulfilling shortage…the more they vaccinate, the less stock they have by a factor of 2…

  319. leftwing says:

    My second dose appointment was booked before the needle went in arm for the first.

  320. 3b says:

    Left How did you get a shot, if not qualified.

  321. chicagofinance says:

    Don’t roll the dice
    If you can’t pay the price
    No
    Don’t do it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0bpx3-4Ga0

  322. chicagofinance says:

    White privilege. Systemic racism.

    3b says:
    January 21, 2021 at 2:32 pm
    Left How did you get a shot, if not qualified.

  323. chicagofinance says:

    Eddie: I sang this at the top of my lungs in the shower…….. didn’t even need coffee today….

    Chicago says:
    January 20, 2021 at 12:01 am
    new Beretta
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6sHA7Uuz4oY

  324. grim says:

    My wife has her second vax on Tuesday, pretty sure that’ll be a cluster.

    Mine is 2/15 – hopefully they have some left.

  325. Fast Eddie says:

    ChiFi,

    And that’s the name of that tune! Robert Blake is 87!

  326. 3b says:

    Fast: Wasn’t he accused of killing his wife years ago?

  327. Juice Box says:

    Finally, took all week but we just got a vaccine appointment for dear old mom. They open up the booking site for a short window when they can accept new appointments and it fills up very quickly. Like everyone else we have been trying over and over all week to get a appointment.

    I used a bot to monitor the booking site every few minutes, it texted me as soon as the web page changed.

    Fun times only 8 million more people to go in New Jersey.

  328. Libturd says:

    I couldn’t get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsW8rXPcnM0 outta my head yesterday. What gives?

  329. Libturd says:

    Juice,

    Same here. but Gator Bot beat the Stu bot.

  330. BRT says:

    Now how stupid was it to waste billions on that Mexican Wall?

    In 2008, they revived the idea that we should pay people to dig ditches and fill them back up because it would stimulate demand. Funny how Keynesian ideology disagreed with building a wall.

  331. ExEssex says:

    3:40 Ridiculous. There are enough unsafe bridges in this Country to keep workers busy for decades. Schmucks like McConnell blocked all meaningful infrastructure projects for Blue and Red States alike. Instead let’s build a Wall.

  332. JCer says:

    BRT so true, my FIL is 71, he has a PHD and near genius IQ. His decision making is very questionable and it makes total sense why the elderly fall for scams. Some old people stay sharp but many start losing it in their 60’s. My FIL came to visit and went in to NYC to visit his wife’s 92 yr old aunt, when I tell you my wife had to help him negotiate NYPenn, trains, etc, it’s pretty scary that he couldn’t figure out the train. These people have no business running the government.

    On plumbers it depends, there are a lot of crooks especially the bigger contractors. I can understand some of the complaints but then again I know what a fair price looks like vs robbery. Growing up my dad was too cheap for plumbers, sweating a pipe was not a problem we fixed supply lines that leaked, baseboard heat and we even moved some supply lines during a renovation. Nowadays with PEX, Propress and sharkbites supply line plumbing repairs are super easy you don’t even need the torch any more. Most guys because of liability of using a torch are just using the propress fittings anyway. You can buy the manual tool(iWiss on amazon) for like $150-$200, it paid for itself quickly a single service call to fix a simple leak is at least $150-$200(which is fair) 10 minutes and a 2 dollar fitting. If you own a home basic plumbing, electrical and home maintenance is a must, if I had to hire it all out it would be a small fortune, this stuff doesn’t last forever, things are constantly breaking no matter how new or old your home is.

    The keystone pipeline is about one thing, protecting the oracle of omaha’s rail investments. It’s easy to make money when you are in bed with and favored by the government, to use a Biden word don’t believe any of Warren’s “Malarky” about wanting to pay more in taxes he is towing the party line in order to have favorable treatment.

    To left’s point my dad used to say something similar, even when I was a young boy. The only color that matters is green, the wokesters don’t get that. My wife did comp for her team at GS and it was dictated that “certain” people should get more. My wife is lamenting that she has associates who are really doing all the work but she had to use her pool on the lowest performers. How do you retain the people getting the work done? What does this do for morale?

  333. ExEssex says:

    Perfect no policies (that worked) no plans in the end.
    Slink off to Flawrida, the least popular POTUS ever with a stock market beaten by Obama. Obama, the black guy, who he badgered for years about his birthright. Obama who will always be better looking, smarter, and have a better record that the orange imbecile could ever hope for.

  334. leftwing says:

    3b, qualified under 1B as stated….

    I would suspect nearly every 50+ male does based on CAD, smoking, or BMI….

  335. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    My my , hey hey, TDS will never die.

  336. leftwing says:

    Actually, I wore BLM tee shirt and mask and when i didn’t have ID, insurance, or papers showing qualification started screaming ‘racism’ and they showed me right in…..

  337. Fast Eddie says:

    Obama who will always be better looking, smarter, and have a better record that the orange imbecile could ever hope for.

    He avoided conflict. He was weak. He had no vision and simply said those things that painted him in the best light. There was no innovation coming from him… nothing ground-breaking… all talk, all rhetoric. He fooled just enough people to make them believe but his actions were as empty as his agenda. Oblammy gave us Trump and Trump founded a movement. The only movement by Oblammy was in the latrine.
    Trump was hated by the left because Trump was everything that Obammy wasn’t.

  338. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    The wall has clearly been vindicated. How many countless Merican liveswill it save just like the early travel ban which the democrats called xenophobic? Time will tell.

    What does it say about the wall if biden is building walls and militiarizing the capitol. He likes them too apparently.

  339. Fast Eddie says:

    In the immortal words of the greatest modern day president, Ronald Reagan: Mr. O’Biden, tear down that wall (around DC).

  340. Juice Box says:

    In 2006, the U.S. Senate voted in a bipartisan 80 to 19 majority to pass the Secure Fence Act.

    Some of prominent Democratic YEAS would include Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Patrick Leahy and Hillary Clinton and yes even then Senator Barack Obama.

    Quote from Obama in 2009 about the passage of that particular law and his vote as Senator.

    PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: I think the American people, they appreciate and believe in immigration. But they can’t have a situation where you just have half a million people pouring over the border (annually) without any kind of mechanism to control it.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

    Again border patrol tells us the people on the ground it works as a deterrent. So is Sleepy Joe now going to go against what Barack Obama believes too?

  341. Juice Box says:

    re: “they showed me right in”

    Dear old mom whet down to the vaccination center today to see if there might be some cancelled appointment etc. There were several people there in the 80s all doing the same thing. Many cannot understand while they registered they were not called or contacted, the phone number nobody answers.

    I explained the state system is not running, you can register big whoop, but the State will not be scheduling your vaccine anytime soon. You are on your own, contact every hospital chain, every phamacy directly etc online only.

    Meanwhile our Governor was down in DC bright and early yesterday for the festivities. State business bla bla bla. He is outside his own mandated no quarantine zone of only NJ,NY,PA and DE. So that means at a minimum even with a negative covid test he needs to register on the state website and quarantine for 7 days at home.

    I bet my bottom dollar even when called out by the press he won’t, some bla bla about testing I am sure.

  342. njtownhomer says:

    On keystone, Where is the party of working class, Fast? Teamsters are on strike for an additional dollar per hour for their salaries after being denied for years. Any GOP guys supporting them ? Aren’t they working enough to be assisted by the GOP?

    There is a serious jealousy about Obama from the leader to the cult-member. I am not sure if any republican president can match his popularity in foreseeable future.

  343. Juice Box says:

    re: 5:02

    Eddie last year Clinton was president 1.2 million apprehended at the southern border.

    I like this flip flop video better.

    Sleepy Joe in his own words.

    https://youtu.be/v6denkE_Cxk?t=43

  344. Juice Box says:

    Wow – Washington Post wasted no time……War Between Canada and the US? This sounds like language and adversary would use read this but use a Canadian accent…

    “This huge misstep with Keystone XL could be the tip of the iceberg. If Biden and his team are unable or unwilling to push these left-wing elements in their party aside, it could potentially create a worse atmosphere than anything we witnessed during Trump’s unconventional presidency.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/21/keystone-pipeline-biden-canada-trudeau-wrong-foot/

  345. Juice Box says:

    What is this whole refinancing thing at a lower rate anyway. What ever happened to zero down, fog a mirror, and pick a payment?

    What kind of p***Y does that anyway? You are supposed to trade up and sell your POS for way more than you paid for it and go for a nice bigger box and don’t you dare tell me you don’t want it.

    Pumps why aren’t you living here in Wayne instead of on the superhighway across from the future ping pong center ?

    It’s already discounted a Million Dollars from peak.

    10/05/2020 Price Changed $1,990,000 – NewJerseyMLS
    10/05/2020 Price Changed $1,990,000 – GardenState
    08/24/2020 Listed $2,200,000 – NewJerseyMLS
    08/24/2020 Listed $2,200,000 – GardenState
    11/28/2016 Listed $2,899,900 – NewJerseyMLS
    11/28/2016 Listed $2,899,000 – GardenState
    10/05/2016 Relisted $2,999,000 – NewJerseyMLS

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1118-Pines-Lake-Dr-W_Wayne_NJ_07470_M62935-35965

  346. Fast Eddie says:

    I am not sure if any republican president can match his popularity in foreseeable future.

    Trump got 5,000,000 more votes in the 2020 election than Obammy did in 2008 and almost 10,000,000 more than in 2016. In 2012 Oblamma got 4,000,000 votes less than he got in 2008 which saw his popularity decline. Trump gained 10,000,000, fueling his popularity but to rebut your fake proclamation, he outdid Obammy by 10,000,000 votes.

    As for the union guys, they make the country go, They work, they earn and the republican party is indeed now the party of the working class. It used to be the democrat party but that party no longer exists and has been replaced by the party of sob and snivel.

  347. Juice Box says:

    OK Just read thru the Biden Plan for Covid-19 response touted by a CNN headliine.

    Looks like we need another $350 Billion.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/National-Strategy-for-the-COVID-19-Response-and-Pandemic-Preparedness.pdf

  348. Juice Box says:

    Eddie – Give it a rest already. MAGA is dead and buried. Take your MAGA hat put it in a cardboard box and stuff it in the attic. Tell your kids you were never member of the Nazi Party if they ever find it.

  349. 3b says:

    The wall works whether it’s nice or not is besides the point. It’s a deterrent. Obama supported it as previously noted. You simply can’t have thousands of people pouring across the border unchecked.

  350. BRT says:

    I actually like Ronny Chieng, he’s got great humor and killer delivery. A rarity from that show since Stewart left.

  351. BRT says:

    Essex, you are right. Problem is, we put the money towards that in 2008. They just put up signs about the Recovery Act and never did the work. They made the money disappear.

  352. Democratnomore says:

    “Would anyone actually get in a car if Mitch McConnel, Nancy Pelosi, or Joe Biden was driving?”
    I love this post so much that there are no words.

  353. Hold my beer says:

    I guess Biden wants to be a one term president too or lose the house and senate in the midterms.

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/bidens-exec-order-unlevels-the-playing-field-for-girls/

    This is what he signs off on in his first 24 hours? Allowing trans females (biological males who identify as females) to compete in girls sports. This is ridiculous. High school boy track and cross country state champions can beat Olympic women. Mediocre boys varsity members would be high school state champions in girls track.

  354. BRT says:

    I for the life of me don’t understand the war on oil. We yearned for energy independence, yet we finally achieve it and we want to dismantle it? Green energy is the future, when, I don’t know. Let it arise naturally through funded research. It will. Look at the gains in solar efficiency the last 10 years. Had we done a nationwide massive solar investment in 2008, it would have been obsolete already.

  355. No One says:

    Juice, that Wayne house has taxes of $45k per year!

  356. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ahh, it’s nice to live in a nice area.

    Juice Box says:
    January 21, 2021 at 5:33 pm
    What is this whole refinancing thing at a lower rate anyway. What ever happened to zero down, fog a mirror, and pick a payment?

  357. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If you can afford it, Pines Lake is one of the best locations if you work in the city. Most people don’t even know this beautiful location exists this close to nyc. They will in time, it’s inevitable.

    I grew up in north jersey and didn’t know this beautiful location existed until I moved here. Love biking or jogging around the lake…absolutely beautiful. Wish I could afford it.

    No One says:
    January 21, 2021 at 9:17 pm
    Juice, that Wayne house has taxes of $45k per year!

  358. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This house across the street, absolutely loaded. Internet money. My nephew is friends with their kid.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1123-Pines-Lake-Dr-W-Wayne-NJ-07470/39799987_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

  359. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not my favorite house on the lake, but primo location. My fav house is blacked out on Zillow, so can’t share.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/764-Pines-Lake-Dr-W-Wayne-NJ-07470/39799820_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare

  360. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They basically have a private cove. Fabulous lot.

  361. crushednjmillenial says:

    2020 Violence in NYC, final numbers . . .

    1,531 shooting in 2020 in NYC (777 shootings in 2019)
    462 murders in 2020 in NYC (319 murders in 2019)

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-nypd-closes-book-on-2020-20210101-hbaknpnvxfflvj432oum6s3ewe-story.html

  362. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Creating a buying opportunity. Thank you, mayor!!

    I’m seriously tempted to sell my Clifton investment property and dump it into a REIT. I would like to buy physical property, but I don’t know the in’s and out’s of landlording in nyc.

    crushednjmillenial says:
    January 21, 2021 at 9:58 pm
    2020 Violence in NYC, final numbers . . .

    1,531 shooting in 2020 in NYC (777 shootings in 2019)
    462 murders in 2020 in NYC (319 murders in 2019)

  363. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Maybe Yang becomes mayor and NYC is revered by the millennials. Who knows, I just know NYC is the best real estate in the country if not world

  364. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Grim,

    Good move with the refinance. I refinanced in 2015 for 2.75 at 15 yr. One of the best moves of my life. Saved almost 200,000, and in 9 years, I’ll be mortgage free unless I leverage my position.

  365. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Elon Musk announces $100 million prize for new carbon capture tech

    https://engt.co/3sM84qN?fbclid=IwAR2kArPz07tQYvbSrMuC2hRzyUAHB_1SPwtl2U38mvADBbf8nUzXAth15lk

  366. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Are Black and Hispanic Trump supporters rac1sts? I want a f.ucking answer”

    Yes Gary there are Blacks and Latinos that supported Trump. Not big numbers of them but they are out there.

    What you and a lot of others are missing is that yes, not all in the GOP are racist, but it is there in big numbers. I posted the the Rand Paul Quote, with the comment
    “If the shoe fits!”
    Some have said that it should be changed to “If the hood fits”

    Now I do have a question. Your fathers generosity, did that extend to the kids in the projects, or was he a Tony Soprano and kept it in the “community”!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCzSUJv2kho

  367. Chicago says:

    Well we don’t have to question what Fab Max is.

    Here we can harken back to the days of glory.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3PeT-Fxyc

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