C19 Open Discussion Week 49

From the Star Ledger:

600 to lose jobs when N.J. Nabisco plant closes by end of summer

As many as 600 people could lose their jobs late this summer when the Nabisco plant in Fair Lawn closes, the borough’s mayor and the company said Thursday.

The North American division of Nabisco’s parent company, Mondelez International, said in November it was considering closing the 63-year-old plant and informed officials Thursday that its doors will shut in late August or early September, Mayor Kurt Peluso said in a Facebook Live on Thursday.

“It’s really sad news,” Peluso said. “It’s really sad news. Nabisco has been a big part of Fair Lawn. We’re disappointed to see it go and we feel horrible for all the employees.”

The plant produces baked goods under the Nabisco brand, including staples such as Oreo, Lorna Doone and Teddy Grahams.

Peluso said he was a part of a group of officials that included Gov. Phil Murphy and Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-5) who were unsuccessful in talking Nabisco into staying in Bergen County. “It just sucks that through no fault of their own they’re losing their positions. We tried to persuade them to stay (but) we knew it was an uphill battle,” the mayor said.

The Fair Lawn facility is one of two on the East Coast slated to close — a factory in Atlanta will be shuttered while a Richmond, Virginia plant will stay open.

“Both Fair Lawn and Atlanta are no longer strategic assets from a geographic footprint perspective and both face significant operational challenges, including aging infrastructure and outdated production capabilities, which would have required significant investment to bring them to the modernized state required for the future,” the company said in a statement.

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190 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 49

  1. earlyriser says:

    frist!

  2. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Look at that, closing Atlanta too. Now people can realize it’s not about taxes, but constantly taking advantage of cheaper and cheaper labor markets after they milk their infrastructure investment in said location.

    Robots will change this. If robots are the same labor cost no matter where you go, prob would want to be located as close to your customer base as possible to save on shipping.

  3. Nomad says:

    Interview of Cathie Wood from the Ark funds. Spend 30 minutes on this video and then head over to their website, all their research is available at no charge. Seems extremely bright. She thinks the fed will be forced to raise rates this year. On equities, she doesn’t think the are overvalued, ie back out share repurchase and there have been fund outflows. She thinks when bond investment drops and $ goes to equities then we will see overvaluation. She is anticipating a major correction in 2021, no idea when or why.

    Look at her Jan video which can be found at her website. Her analysts participate so some deep sector insights.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ark-invests-cathie-wood-side-224355767.html

  4. Nomad says:

    Annual deck Cathie produces, long but good info. Big Ideas 2021

    https://research.ark-invest.com/hubfs/1_Download_Files_ARK-Invest/White_Papers/ARK–Invest_BigIdeas_2021.pdf

    PS – she said 2020 electric vehicle production was around 2.2m. By 2025 says it will be 40m. Kings Short Hills just installed 2 EV charging stations.

  5. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nomad,

    She is a unicorn visionary. That’s the bottom line. Of course, anyone can lose, but I would not bet against her.

    All these people going against her with short positions must love pain.

  6. The Great Pumpkin says:

    She is totally transparent, first of that kind, and like I said, she uses it to her advantage. Those people trying copy cat her should just pay the fee. Greed is a b!tch, so you are better off just paying her for the excellent work. At some point, you will get screwed trying to copy her without paying the fees.

  7. Fast Eddie says:

    The question: What to invest in to take advantage of battery storage, alternative energy, nanotechnology, robotics, vertical farming, urban planning and on and on for the future. For the long run, ETFs or a basket of technology most likely. If you’re targeting emerging companies, then you’re exploring.

  8. 3b says:

    From a friend of mine who works for the parent company, they are consolidating in Richmond at a state of the art facility which eliminates the need for two other locations. The Fairlawn facility has not been upgraded for years, and there was never any intention of updating the facility, in a non business friendly location like NJ.

  9. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    They milked their investment in infrastructure in said locations. It’s easier to build a new factory on virgin land. That’s all this move is. It costs too much to knock down and then rebuild. So they are avoiding the “knock down” cost and finding somewhere (Richmond) to do it.

  10. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That Fair Lawn location did have an advantage. It was so close to a massive market. They could ship directly from factory to store for a lot of their customers.

    If I was a forward thinking company, I would jump on that location. When the robots come, I’ll have a strategic location smack down in the middle of the most densely populated market in America.

    I’m no fool, but there are a lot out there unable to see the long term big picture. I didn’t make my long term calls by being focused on the short term.

  11. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Short term is mostly noise. Focus more on the big picture when it comes to investing.

    That’s why I won’t back down from my ARK strategy even though some really good investors on this blog told me to be careful. I did listen and it was convincing, but I’m sticking to my gut. We are in the right place at the right time to invest in massive change. I can TASTE the MASSIVE CHANGE, and I sure as hell don’t want to miss investing in it.

    Will it be a smooth ride? No. Will it be for the faint of heart? No. Just look at 2019 as an example; rumors of Tesla running out of money was a scary time to be in ARK. You just have to believe in the long term goal, and can’t rely on this money for the next 5-10 years once you invest it in ARK. Pretty sure you will get paid if you play it longterm.

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    NYC….no brainer long term move to invest now. Short term? Who knows, that’s a pure gamble. All I know, it’s the greatest city in the world. If you buy in now, it will be worth significantly more in 10-20 years.

    And if it doesn’t, it means everything is f’ed in the economy. There is no safer long term bet than nyc real estate.

  13. Juice Box says:

    Pumpkin – Except you are again talking out of your ass again. The Nabisco Plant in Virginia has been around since the 1970s. There was a plan to upgrade both Virginia and Fairlawn. However Fairlawn was scrapped for the very reason 3B said it was “unfriendly to business”.

  14. leftwing says:

    “Both Fair Lawn and Atlanta are no longer strategic assets from a geographic footprint perspective and both face significant operational challenges, including aging infrastructure and outdated production capabilities, which would have required significant investment…”

    No need to look for hidden meaning. Their statement is literal regarding long term infrastructure investment…

    1. Geography was not a controlling consideration, and

    2. Put three specific locations on the table and require us to force rank them, in order they are Richmond and then Atlanta/Fair Lawn.

  15. 3b says:

    Juice: Thanks. I laid it out clearly as it was disclosed by friend who has been there for years. He is just waiting for a package. It’s amazing how someone can read right through a post and interpret it to suit their world view. Everyone else is wrong, regardless, facts be damned.

  16. Juice Box says:

    Here is the quote from our Govenor. Kicking the tires? They will be lucky to get a warehouse out of that location. Minimum wage non union jobs working the night shift to move boxes of good made somewhere else anywhere but New Jersey.

    “Murphy, during his COVID-19 briefing Friday, said the state was not happy with what went down and will work to find a solution.

    “(I’m) not happy about this whatsoever,” he said. “And I don’t like the way they’re doing it. We had a lot of deliberation with these folks. There are hundreds of union labor folks who will be impacted by this. I was on with the mayor this morning, back and forth. We’ll make the best of this.”

    Murphy also said he’s hoping for a commercial tenant solution.

    “The good news is we have a lot of companies kicking the tires on New Jersey right now,” he said. “Specifically, I know, the mayor is on that. I have myself reached out to a CEO who I think might be a logical person to go in there.”

  17. 30 year realtor says:

    3b,

    My brother has been with Mondelez from the beginning. He has been waiting for a package for at least 10 years. Every year the workforce is decreased and he is still on the team. As to Fair Lawn, my brother told me the same reasons as your friend told you. For much of my life I have lived close enough to the plant to smell the cookies baking. Going to miss that.

  18. joyce says:

    The Pandemic Broke the Flu
    This winter has been an extraordinarily quiet flu season. Scientists aren’t sure the silence will last.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/02/covid-19-flu-season/617924/

  19. 3b says:

    30 year: Yeah my friend thinks it’s just a matter of time as far as the package. Still some old timers there from the RJR/ Nabisco days. Either way he is OK. Last kid out of college and his wife is an attorney. When their last kid moves out , they plan to sell the house and buy a condo on the shore.

  20. 3b says:

    Juice: In my opinion no company is going to relocate there. It will be torn down and there will be condos/apartments built there. That will increase the burden on the schools. Fairlawn will lose a million a year in taxes from the loss of Nabisco.

  21. Fast Eddie says:

    Condos/Apartments: It seems that every dead corporate park/building/facility in Northern Jersey is being converted to living spaces. Where do these people work? And if you can WFH permanently, why live in Jersey which cost a fortune?

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’ll take the L, I guess I was wrong.

  23. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “As promised, I decided to write more about retirement and building as much wealth as possible recently. Thinking about re-retiring by 2022 has gotten me pumped up! I’ve been day dreaming a lot about what life will be like as we slowly head back to a new normal.

    Seeing Retirement Differently

    In the post, 10 Million Dollars: The Ideal Net Worth Amount?, I go though why this might be the ideal amount for retirement. I realize 10 million dollars is unobtainable for most. However, there’s no harm in going through the exercise for fun.

    In the post, I share how much income $10 million can reasonably generate. I include a $250,000 annual budget (picture below). I also share ways in which to boost the income amount in a relatively lower-risk way.

    As usual, the comments were quite insightful and entertaining. Here are two of them.

    A woman who disagrees writes:

    “This website is really hilarious sometimes, I still can’t resist.
    I definitely have learned a lot in other articles here but holy smokes this article is out of touch with the vast majority of not just Americans, but people on this planet.

    For me I hope to stick things out another year or couple depending on how things open up with the pandemic, then Barista FIRE my way through life for as long as I feel like it (age 39 now). I have way too much travel and living to do. And it doesn’t take anywhere near $10 million to do this.

    Highlights: spent a decade doing music full-time, travelled to ~60 countries including living out of the US for two 1-year stints (once backpacking, once working on a cruise ship) and some longer-term medical volunteering, walked 8,000 miles across the US and Nepal on long distance hikes.

    $12k a year will do me just fine, $20k a year makes me feel like a queen.”

    For perspective, $12,880 is the Federal Poverty Limit for 1 person in 2021. So that would be like my family of 4 living off $26,500. Hmmm, maybe I’ll try it one month and chronicle the journey in a new post.

    A reader who agrees writes,

    “My parents are in their mid/early 50s in Miami and are feeling kind of tight.

    Assets:
    2 million house (Fully paid – bought for 500k in late 90s).
    500k Liquid securities/Cash.
    1 million business (cash flow 250k).
    1.5 million land (non cash flowing- fully paid)
    5 million fully paid real estate (cap rate 3% – 150k.).

    Property taxes on the house have increased to 40k annually, plus maintenance of the house is around another 35k annually for flood insurance, HOA, light, water, gardening, random maintenance issues, etc.

    All the wealthy New Yorkers/northeastern have driven up the cost of living here. Miami isn’t the same anymore. I have two much younger siblings who attend private school that costs 40k(!) each! The same private school only cost me 15k when I attended 15 years ago.

    Combined with additional savings for college, it’s been quite tough for my parents recently, even with a net worth of 10 million.”
    How funny is it that two people can see 10 million dollars in a completely different light? Every person’s situation is unique. Therefore, take what you can from these posts and apply them to your own situation.

    Personally, I’m always going to shoot for more because I enjoy the challenge. I also like to eat toro sashimi.”

  24. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Cont.

    “The Epiphany

    One of the reasons why writing is so great is because it’s like therapy. You sometimes realize the root of why you think and act the way you do.

    I’ve consistently received backlash from plenty of the financial ideas I’ve created or followed, partly due to my background. Two examples include: The 1/10th Rule For Car Buying and more recently, the FS Safe Withdrawal Rate formula.

    I’m an Asian person who grew up overseas (The Philippines, Zambia, Japan, Taiwan, Malaysia) for 13 years before coming to America for high school and college. Then I worked in Asian equities for 13 years. As a result, I have an Eastern philosophy when it comes to life and money.

    At the same time, I have a Hawaiian-born father. I went to college in America and I have lived in America for 26 years. Therefore, the two cultures are blended.

    But I now understand why I did not anticipate people’s heavy criticism of the FS Safe Withdrawal Rate formula. My default assumption was that all of us want to leave a legacy after we are gone. In order to do so, we must not touch principal or touch very little of it.

    However, it seems like the main view in America is to spend most of our money before we die. Otherwise, what’s the point of working so hard and saving so much? If we die with too much, it means we spent too much time working and stressing about money during our lifetimes! I totally get this YOLO point of view.

    For deeper insights, check out the post, Two Retirement Philosophies Will Determine Your Safe Withdrawal Rate. Most of us are somewhere in between.

    Taking Care Of Our Children

    Adopting the Legacy Retirement Philosophy has made me hyper-vigilant about ensuring our children are taken care of before they become responsible adults.

    It felt great when my wife was able to double her life insurance coverage and match mine for less money last year. However, my 10-year term life insurance policy is running out in a year and a half. If I were to renew the policy, the premiums would go way up due to health issues and my older age. I’m dilly dallying. However, the longer I wait to renew, the higher the premiums go.

    Not getting a 30-year term life insurance policy 8.5 years ago is one of my biggest mistakes. I improperly forecasted my future of having two kids. Therefore, I may convert my policy into an expensive whole life policy to keep my excellent health rating or try to build our net worth equal to the life insurance coverage amount I would have gotten. The clock is ticking!

    Don’t make my same mistake. Get more coverage than you think you need and then cancel or lower your coverage if you later realize you don’t need as much. Going the other way is a suboptimal move. When you need life insurance coverage the most is often when it will cost the most.

    To get an affordable life insurance quote, take a look at Policygenius. Policygenius is the free life insurance marketplace my wife used to double her coverage and lower her monthly premium. Unfortunately for me, I’m several years too late.

    Regards,

    Sam – Financial freedom sooner, rather than later.”

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Understand how markets work. If there are lots of wealthy people, the costs go up. It’s not “blue state” corrupt govts to blame, it’s the market. That’s how high taxes come about; market is performing so well, everything costs more money.

    The only way you get cheap taxes and cheap cost of living; have lots of old and poor people in a location. You don’t want successful individuals in this market, or they will drive up the cost like they did in sf area. Look at Austin, Texas, drove up the price way past nj standards.

    You can’t have a successful, economically wise, low cost location. The success brings higher cost.

    “Property taxes on the house have increased to 40k annually, plus maintenance of the house is around another 35k annually for flood insurance, HOA, light, water, gardening, random maintenance issues, etc.

    All the wealthy New Yorkers/northeastern have driven up the cost of living here. Miami isn’t the same anymore. I have two much younger siblings who attend private school that costs 40k(!) each! The same private school only cost me 15k when I attended 15 years ago.”

  26. 3b says:

    Fast: I agree. But that seems to be what’s going on. Get the land cheap enough and throw apartments up; eventually they will rent them. Hackensack, Paramus, Montvale , and Park Ridge to name just a few.

  27. BRT says:

    Juice: In my opinion no company is going to relocate there. It will be torn down and there will be condos/apartments built there. That will increase the burden on the schools. Fairlawn will lose a million a year in taxes from the loss of Nabisco.

    Long term, I don’t see the schools being burdened. In fact, the opposite. Everyone from my generation was 1 and done, 2 at best. But people who are even younger are 1 and done if any. I watched the incoming first grade class come in at 250 students in my last district compared to 475 at grade 12. That is a massive dropoff and it’s a trend that exists nearly statewide.

    If anything, I wouldn’t want to be a teacher entering the profession right now. It’s gonna be RIF city and that’s always based on seniority.

  28. 3b says:

    BRT: Good points, but that property in Fairlawn is massive. I would say they probably fit 2000 or more apartments on it. You could have perhaps 200 or more additional kids. That could impact the schools.

  29. grim says:

    The biggest problem with taking industrial and making it residential – is that you can never make it industrial again. That’s a one way ticket.

  30. Hold my beer says:

    How many industrial companies want to open a new plant in nj?

  31. 3b says:

    Hold I would say none.

  32. Libturd says:

    Maybe, it wasn’t Belichik.

    Super lame.

  33. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If I die, please let me come back as Tom Brady.

  34. The Great Pumpkin says:

    He’s not the GOAT, IMO. He has always been surrounded by fortune and good teams.

    Rodgers and Peyton Manning types are so much better skill wise, they just lack the fortune and the teams to take them to the championship almost every f/ing year. All I know, brady was not on a good team last year, and it showed.

    Greatest winning qb, sure, but greatest qb skill wise? Hell no.

  35. Fast Eddie says:

    The Bucs defense was incredible. Mahomes was being chased practically every time he dropped back to pass. Not taking anything away from Brady but the Bucs D kept KC out of the end zone.

  36. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bingo.

    Too many people think in the now, and not about the future/big picture. Just because industrial might not work now, doesn’t mean it won’t 20 years from now. It’s foolish to replace all your industrial with residential. Just foolish. Just a short term money grab..

    grim says:
    February 7, 2021 at 7:36 pm
    The biggest problem with taking industrial and making it residential – is that you can never make it industrial again. That’s a one way ticket.

  37. Phoenix says:

    A trip through time in N.J. Little did he know at the time the competition was not who he thought it was.

    “Outside the plant, many workers say they voted for President Reagan in 1980 and now feel double-crossed. ”My father-in-law cried when I told him I voted for Reagan,” said Frank Andriani, 47, a maintenance worker from North Bergen with 27 years’ service.

    ”A lot of our people voted for him,” Mr. Andriani said. ”There were a lot of programs we figured he’d get rid of – fraud in food stamps, fraud in this, fraud in that. But nobody ever figured he’d knock the block off the blue-collar worker.” Foreign Competition Cited

    “Another 27-year veteran spoke of the foreign competition. ”Western Electric used to make the best telephone in the world,” he said. ”I predict in 10 years you won’t be able to buy an American telephone. They’re giving the telecommunications industry to Japan, just like they gave away the car and steel industries. Can you buy a transistor radio made in the U.S? Can you buy a TV made in the U.S? They’re all from Japan.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/1983/01/29/nyregion/kearny-plant-is-dying-along-with-an-old-era.html

  38. BRT says:

    He’s not the GOAT, IMO. He has always been surrounded by fortune and good teams.

    Rodgers and Peyton Manning types are so much better skill wise, they just lack the fortune and the teams to take them to the championship almost every f/ing year. All I know, brady was not on a good team last year, and it showed.

    Greatest winning qb, sure, but greatest qb skill wise? Hell no.

    Guy wins his 7th super bowl by going to a new team and approaching his mid 40s. It’s not even arguable at this point. Manning is the same sage and hobbling into a hall of fame induction. Brady is still out there winning super bowls.

    As far as talent goes, every receiver has his best year under Brady.

  39. BRT says:

    Phoenix, that was about the time where the US needed to seriously consider, is trading with other nations free of tariff a good/bad idea. They screwed up royally or did it on purpose. Either way, the American worker was sold out consistently from the 80s on. Every chance politicians had to reverse course, they didn’t. They put the pedal to the metal.

  40. Phoenix says:

    BRT,
    This was the early Gen X, or the late boomer workers that got hit with this. Early boomers were given retirement packages and pensions, or allowed to stay till the end with seniority.
    The late boomers and early Gen x were told to leave. No pension, no retirement. If you were smart or connected you went into the only good union jobs there were-govt jobs, and would now be retiring with pensions and benefits.
    Many who went into private businesses was just chased from job to job as the manufacturing in NJ imploded.
    I never knew how many worked at Western Electric in N.J. over the years. Seems like it was one huge employer here for manufacturing along with its engineering partner, Bell Labs.

  41. Phoenix says:

    I just remember thinking back when they broke up the Bell system just how stupid it was. Reagan was President. Up until that happened phone service was so reliable and affordable. Sure they were a monopoly, but not like Amazon, and people actually cared about what they did. I remember that for a time afterward it really became screwed up.

  42. BRT says:

    Phoenix, one of the larger casualties was that the research at Bell labs which was a huge collaborative success got heavily fragmented. I think there’s a difference between a monopoly that is a self made industry and a monopoly that goes around swallowing up other industries. It clearly was the wrong decision.

  43. Libturd says:

    The Village Idiot strikes again!

    I’ve doing fantasy football for the better of 25 years. The amazing thing about Brady is that he’s done it so many times with talentless teams. You could hardly name a RB from New England for starters as we all know the greatest quarterbacks are always supported by a superstar RB who suck the LBs away from the defensive secondary. Payton had a whole slew of them. Ball, Moreno, James, McGahee and don’t forget Falk. Then Tom, made virtually no name WRs into stars, who once they left for the big paycheck, returned to the realm of the relatively unknown. The list is endless. Decker, Edelman, Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Wes Welker. Here’s more proof. The Pats went from 12-4 to 7-9 without him. The Bucs? 7-9 to 11-5. Sure defense helps. But guess which team had the better pass defense in the league headed into the SB? Nuff’ said.

  44. Fast Eddie says:

    Lib,

    He is the GOAT, no doubt.

  45. Libturd says:

    More brilliance on the part of Brady. After struggling with the pass for his first set of downs, the game plan became clear. Run the ball with Fournette and pass the ball to Fournette. Then when the LBs were least expecting a pass, toss an easy draw to either TE. Goodwin? Johnson? Brown? EVANS? They might as well not have suited up. It’s absolutely incredible that Brady had the most 1st half efficiency of any QB in the history of the SB in the first half with hardly a completion to a WR. And Pumps says it’s the talent he is surrounded by. I don’t think he ever watched him play.

  46. BRT says:

    Lib, you forgot Chris Hogan. Seriously, I don’t even know how anybody could question it. When he left the Pats, everyone completely wrote off the idea of him winning, especially in year 1! Now that he’s settled the idea that he needed Bill B. to coach for him to win, it’s over. He’s the GOAT.

    And, I was firmly in the Joe Montana camp until he won his 5th.

  47. Phoenix says:

    Of course he is the GOAT. He brought Antonio Brown back to life.

  48. Phoenix says:

    So who is the other GOAT? Edward O. Thorpe or Cathie Wood?

  49. Chicago says:

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/08/todd-bowles-not-brady-is-the-true-super-bowl-2021-mvp/

    BRT says:
    February 8, 2021 at 8:32 am
    He’s not the GOAT, IMO. He has always been surrounded by fortune and good teams.

    Rodgers and Peyton Manning types are so much better skill wise, they just lack the fortune and the teams to take them to the championship almost every f/ing year. All I know, brady was not on a good team last year, and it showed.
    Greatest winning qb, sure, but greatest qb skill wise? Hell no.

    Guy wins his 7th super bowl by going to a new team and approaching his mid 40s. It’s not even arguable at this point. Manning is the same sage and hobbling into a hall of fame induction. Brady is still out there winning super bowls.

    As far as talent goes, every receiver has his best year under Brady.

  50. Chicago says:

    You take that team and add Antonio Brown and Fournette mid-stream for almost no cost?

  51. Chicago says:

    And a healthy Gronkowski? For almost no cost?

  52. Chicago says:

    Belichek witnessed Chrebet and then spent years marching out his clones on NE.

  53. Chicago says:

    Don’t misunderstand. Brady is absolutely tremendous as a QB and leader.

  54. Chicago says:

    I’ve never seen anything like Aaron Rodgers’ command of the field.

  55. Chicago says:

    Also Dan Marino

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Amen, Chi! Amen!!

    Brady shows you why luck matters in life. If it was only about skill, Rodgers would have more championships.

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Give each part a read.

    https://jakobsfantasyfootball.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-question-tom-brady-goat-claimers.html

    Libturd says:
    February 8, 2021 at 9:20 am
    The Village Idiot strikes again!

  58. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    All of the mondolez products at Costco are made in Mexico. Ritz, belvida, etc. with the timing of the plant closure, right after the edition, I would expect this production is moving there also. Stop buying the products if you care.

  59. Fabius Maximus says:

    Abraham GutmanFire @abgutman

    Before anyone gives Tom Brady a trophy, don’t forget that the Chiefs have the right to exhaust every legal avenue to challenge the result. It would be irresponsible to congratulate the Buccaneers so early. Many many fans are upset. Wouldn’t want them to lose trust.

  60. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Did the bucs change the rules on the chiefs in the middle of the game? If so I missed that.

  61. Phoenix says:

    “All of the Mondolez products at Costco are made in Mexico.”

    On the other side of the wall that Trump built.

    Ahh, its all garbage that makes you fat. Can we still use that word or has it been blacklisted?

  62. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    We’re back in the Obama days in terms of propaganda. All fluff and diversions. No scrutiny of actual policy. Completely selling out to lobbyists. Incompetence is laughed if or ignored.

    The problem for the propagandists is that Biden lacks charisma. People will see through the bullshlt the way they did under Obama but they won’t hsve him to smooth it over with some lofty yet hollow speech.

  63. Libturd says:

    It is obviously a subjective topic.

    I would also argue, there will always be a ton of hate (like when the Yankees were buying World Series rings every year) when you don’t ever let anyone else win.

    And Chi, yes, this was an anomaly of a year with Covid making crazy lineups possible. But I still think longevity and consistency plays into the GOAT argument. Also, Fournette was never THIS good. My argument about RBs and QBs is very important. Fournette did not make Brady good. Brady made Fournette look good. This was not the case with Payton. And Montana did have mad talent around him. Also, Manning and Rodgers are both terrible in the bigger games. They are choke artists. Manning had the same problem in college. Maybe when Brady wins his 10th Superbowl on his third talentless team, will people give him his due. Noone likes a winner when it’s not them or their team.

  64. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    I don’t buy belvida since they staged making them in MX. Don’t need them. I like ritz but there are plenty of alternatives. Don’t need them either. Sell them to Mexicans.

  65. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nice share.

    Sold us out.

    Phoenix says:
    February 8, 2021 at 8:22 am
    A trip through time in N.J. Little did he know at the time the competition was not who he thought it was.

  66. Juice Box says:

    re: Luck

    I was at Super bowl XLIV when the Giants barley beat the Pats. A scoring pass to Gronk was intercepted in the 4th qt and there was a deflected hail Mary pass from Brady to Gronk at the end of the game that could have easily changed the outcome.
    Both Eli’s and Brady’s stats were about the same it was the defense that made all the difference that night.

    That was luck for the Giants. None of the stars of that Giants Superbowl team nine years are playing today, however both Gronk and Brady are.

    What you saw last night was hard work and a superior defensive coordinator, Todd Bowles who led the defense to shutdown Mahomes, they had him back peddling all over the field last night, took advantage of his bad foot perhaps but that is football. Brady gets the credit for the win but really the defense they ran last night was just incredible.

  67. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yup.

    BRT says:
    February 8, 2021 at 8:34 am
    Phoenix, that was about the time where the US needed to seriously consider, is trading with other nations free of tariff a good/bad idea. They screwed up royally or did it on purpose. Either way, the American worker was sold out consistently from the 80s on. Every chance politicians had to reverse course, they didn’t. They put the pedal to the metal.

  68. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes. Mahomes did not score a td. Game over. Doesn’t matter who your qb is. KC d is built to protect the lead. They are not built to play from behind and stop the run.

    Ask Bowles if it matters what team you are on. How did it go with the Jets? I’m just happy for stafford, he finally gets away from that sh/t organization in det. Rams might win it all next year.

    “What you saw last night was hard work and a superior defensive coordinator, Todd Bowles who led the defense to shutdown Mahomes, they had him back peddling all over the field last night, took advantage of his bad foot perhaps but that is football. Brady gets the credit for the win but really the defense they ran last night was just incredible.”

  69. Phoenix says:

    Mahomes front line decided to stay home. In some plays it looked like they didn’t even exist. He should have taken some lessons from Roethlisberger on how to release the ball in less than 3 seconds-that guy learned to to that from years of not having a decent offensive line.
    Maybe then they could have put some points up on the board and made the game palatable. It was a snoozefest.

    And the commercials. Corporate America is out of touch. Dopey Springsteen Jeep commercial, Oat milk guy singing, the Alexa erotic bathtub crap-who puts a listening device in their house that transmits directly to big brother anyway?

  70. Phoenix says:

    Bud Lite Lemon commercial was the only one not a dud.

  71. Fast Eddie says:

    Did the bucs change the rules on the chiefs in the middle of the game? If so I missed that.

    He shoots! He scores!

  72. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    This forecast is nuts. Snow 10 of the next 14 days with no thaw in sight.

  73. Libturd says:

    I just read through that fantasy drivel. Do you want to know what is missing out of those four parts? The fact that we are seeing how three other quarterbacks would have done in the cornucopia that is Brady’s post-season history. It would be nice to see the same thing done with Montana, Manning and Rodgers post-season history, but there hardly is any. Yes, Brady had amazing defenses with the Pats. Belichick was a defense first drafter. Not surprisingly, most of his best players came from Rutgers. A strong defense first program, which always lacks offense except for the lucky Ray Rice recruit. None-the-less. Just because Brady faced some weaker defenses in Super Bowls doesn’t mean that much to me. He got there! That’s not easy. And holding the loss to Eli against him is weak sauce to some extent. That mediocre Giants team destroyed everyone on their way to the championship. At least the Pats kept it super close.

    But, if you want to disagree, I’m good with it. Like I said before, it’s subjective.

  74. Fast Eddie says:

    Dopey Springsteen Jeep commercial…

    Agree. The re-united States of America? Why, because l1berals say so? What is it? A new message of false hope according to a genderless, mindless, epicene society of followers? We’re as far away as “re-united” that it gets because the progressives have destroyed this nation.

  75. Libturd, playing Lloyd Lindsey Young says:

    BTG,

    24 to 30 inches predicted in the longterm Canadian and GFS models. The big storm, if temps stay cool enough, will be the 16-17th.

    tinyurl.com/cjjs5hwk

    tinyurl.com/m28jbrsj

  76. Libturd says:

    Gary,

    I could only imagine your unity commercial.

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Looks like we are getting a workout shoveling snow this month.

    Libturd, playing Lloyd Lindsey Young says:
    February 8, 2021 at 10:57 am
    BTG,

    24 to 30 inches predicted in the longterm Canadian and GFS models. The big storm, if temps stay cool enough, will be the 16-17th.

    tinyurl.com/cjjs5hwk

    tinyurl.com/m28jbrsj

  78. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    I had a Jeep when Jeeps were Jeeps. Now they are 50k status symbols for wealthy families to buy for their teenage daughters, and made by Fiat no less.
    What used to cost me about 8 bucks is now this- look at the cost. I don’t buy anything that is not reliable anymore. Look at all of those Subaru Ascent transmission problems. The only CVT that is reliable is the Toyota Power Split Device- absolute genius, no wearable clutch packs or belts with abrasive residue to destroy components. Plus infinitely variable. It’s a work of art.

    How much does it cost to replace a thermostat in a Jeep?
    The average cost for a Jeep Wrangler thermostat replacement is between $129 and $150. Labor costs are estimated between $69 and $88 while parts are priced between $60 and $62.

  79. leftwing says:

    The version of Springsteen of at least the last thirty years is a schmuck….

    Among the wealthiest people on the planet Earth, he sows an overworn fake everyman persona he rolls out on the occasions it suits him to smooth over the discord his political simpleton positions contribute.

    Hasn’t been good since the 80s and shouldn’t be relevant since the aughts. Boomer POS.

  80. BRT says:

    The commercials have been lame for the past 10 years. Occasionally you get an ok one. I think last year, I liked the Groundhog Day commercial the best.

  81. leftwing says:

    “I could only imagine your unity commercial.”

    Unity. From liberals? LOL. Equivalent of the Germans calling for peace after the September campaign of 1939.

    Even hardcore leftists see the ridiculousness….Kara Swisher just got good laugh from the hosts of CNBC ripping it, including the punchline about a “New Jersey cowboy”.

  82. Phoenix says:

    Now this is a funny commercial.
    https://youtu.be/LeQ1EL0Cf0A?t=465

  83. Hold my beer says:

    A US congressman in DFW just died from covid. 67 years old. Had survived lung cancer a year or so ago.

    https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/news/local/us-rep-ron-wright-dead-covid-19-district-6-texas-republican/287-cb63cf75-d1a2-464f-8bc0-7bcdd057965f

  84. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “OPINION | INSIDE VIEW
    Mediocrity Is Now Mandatory
    From stimulus to school admissions, leaders act as if ease is the only worthy goal.
    Has an era of American mediocrity begun? In January the College Board announced it would eliminate the essay portion of the SAT, as well as all of the separate SAT subject tests. Their stated purpose was “reducing and simplifying demands on students.” Such a burden.
    One high school near me just dropped freshman advanced-standing (honors) English “to combat the effects of academic ‘tracking” because it “ultimately separates students of different socioeconomic and racial backgrounds.” It turns out that middle schools from lower-income areas aren’t adequately preparing their students for high school. So rather than fix that problem, they dumbed down high school.
    Then again, when the University of California system did away with racial preferences in 1996, it moved to holistic admissions. What does holistic mean? Anything you want. The Association of Public and Land-Grant Universities defines it as “assessing an applicant’s unique experiences alongside traditional measures of academic readiness.” Grades are only a suggestion—and SAT scores are biased, supposedly. And here you thought smart students got into good colleges. Yes, mediocrity has crept into our self-proclaimed elite colleges. Job recruiters understand this.
    V irtually all universities and now many companies have D&I departments, for diversity and inclusion. Sounds worthy. But as far as I can tell, the No. 1 job of a D&I department is to hire more people into the D&I department. No one ever mentions excellence.
    Many schools, like Hampshire College, Antioch University and Reed College, don’t even bother with meaningful grades—feelings might get hurt. Yes, the same Reed College Apple co-founder Steve Jobs attended for six months. He took courses in calligraphy, dance and Shakespeare. Reed students do receive a loosey-goosey grade-point average, but “papers and exams are generally returned to students with lengthy comments but without grades affixed.” Out in real life, Jobs was graded every day by customers, employees and investors.
    And why push students to think? Preferring to mold students’ politics, teachers ban books—from Homer’s “Odyssey” to “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” and “The Scarlet Letter”—even Dr. Seuss. Oh, the places you’ll not go! And for as long as I can remember, Brown University has touted its Open Curriculum—students have the “freedom to study what they choose and the flexibility to discover what they love.” That sounds like summer camp, not college.
    Government too. Joe Biden is likable enough, but let’s face it, during the primaries he was the compromise, the consolation prize. And now he’s quickly perpetuating mediocrity by proposing $15 minimum wages, $1,400 stimulus checks, and $400 weekly unemployment-check boosts. Yes, the Covid recession requires assistance, but these programs are too broad and will likely lead to permanent welfare-state expansions. Why work when Uncle Sam provides table stakes for mob-trading GameStop and dogecoin?

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I can’t get the rest of the article past Grim’s defense system.

    He’s right, but we also need to have compassion for people that aren’t great. What’s the answer? I don’t know, but it’s somewhere in the middle.

  86. Fast Eddie says:

    I could only imagine your unity commercial.

    It wouldn’t feature a mega-rich l1beral driving a foreign made vehicle trying to pass himself off as a regular guy.

  87. leftwing says:

    Lung cancer treatments likely contributed to his covid vulnerability….

    For the special election his District will be held?

    Here’s hoping for the expiry of a Dem Senator in a Red Governor state….

  88. leftwing says:

    “It wouldn’t feature a mega-rich l1beral driving a foreign made vehicle trying to pass himself off as a regular guy.”

    In a chapel.

    In a location he’s only otherwise ‘been’ to while flying over in his private jet.

  89. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hey, at least the SB showed what Mahomes would look like on the Jets. That offensive line was trying to get him killed.

  90. Fast Eddie says:

    And what’s with the red star in the middle of the U.S. map at the end of that Springsteen commercial? A red star? Really?

  91. Bystander says:

    “Did the bucs change the rules on the chiefs in the middle of the game? If so I missed that.”

    You mean did each NFL franchise agree to rule changes weeks in advance, prior to start of game? Yes. Did Little Chief Orange mushroom dik complain only after red team lost and illogically called conspiracy on a few franchises that cost him vote he wanted? Yes. Did each franchise verify fair and accurate count? Yes. Did his he instigate a horned Chief to kill people at his command? Yes.

  92. Hold my beer says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-suppressed-covid-tests-161314625.html

    And this is why he lost, combined with mocking McCain and zero empathy for Michigan governor.

  93. leftwing says:

    “You mean did each NFL franchise agree to rule changes weeks in advance, prior to start of game?”

    This specifically did not happen and is the crux of the issue around election legitimacy.

    Of course the Orange Idiot can’t tell the difference among arguments, and the MSM happily took advantage of that ignorance to whitewash the above issue. As did the Idiot’s media minions.

    But that is why for any intelligent voter leaning right of center there won’t be any ‘peace’…..the rules were absolutely unilaterally changed immediately before gametime and the fact that it is being swept under the rug through the media cacophony is the issue.

  94. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Pumpy, if the progressive left gets their way in the culture war, and marxism rules it will lead us into another dark ages.

    Of course it will be done in the name of equality. Math and science are racist. Speech is violence etc. they all must be eliminated. Meritocracy is banned and quotas for everything.

    If they get control of the constitution the way they do the education system there is no limit to the controls they could impose.

  95. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Agreed, this mindset is dangerous. We should have saw this coming. I still remember the first time I came across this mindset 20 years ago. Kids were playing t ball with no winner. First thought through my head, what is the point of playing if you can’t win. My mindset could not grasp it. I’m highly competitive. I hate to lose. It’s what motivated me to be where I am today. So I just couldn’t wrap my head around playing a game with no purpose. Everyone gets a trophy is a spit in the face of the winners. Why get good at something when you get nothing from it?

    I can’t imagine going through life without competition. What is the point of doing anything if the result is the same. This mindset is a poison to progress.

  96. Bystander says:

    Left,

    Give it a rest. Each state has their own rules on how elections run. Sorry that power to determine rules and “fairness” of election is up to each state. Too bad that each state verified those fair results with zero conspiracy. Too bad the cult members did not like the result, even if many places where R legislatures controlled the rules.

  97. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m going to work really hard to win the same trophy that guy gets for sitting on his a$$. How long does anyone continue to work hard under these conditions?

    I just don’t understand how the AOC crowd cry life is not fair, and then stand behind crap like this. How is this fair to the hard worker? How?!

  98. chicagofinance says:

    I want to make clear, I am not contesting what you are writing. It will not be understood in context the way these blog posts are displayed. I just want to through out some ideas.

    Peyton is a choke artist…. no question. Rodgers played almost a flawless NFC Championship game in 2021. It is hard to overcome the Packer secondary handing Brady 14 pts and Aaron Jones fumbling for almost an automatic 7. Is it Rodgers fault that Brady was handed 21 points? Also, Davante Adams dropped a TD and a 2-pt conversion was dropped. That is a 29 point swing.

    Fournette? To be clear, was a bell-cow back. On TB he was barely used so he was completely fresh. Kind of like Lev Bell on KC (although Bell is shot). With a punishing back such as Fournette, to have him fresh in February and running him for 15 plays. He is lethal.

    Brady learned a ton from Belichek. How to steal points on cheap plays; how to manipulate the rules, etc. 2021 is Brady’s for sure, but the approach has Belichek’s DNA all over it.

    Libturd says:
    February 8, 2021 at 10:32 am
    Also, Fournette was never THIS good. My argument about RBs and QBs is very important. Fournette did not make Brady good. Brady made Fournette look good. This was not the case with Payton. And Montana did have mad talent around him. Also, Manning and Rodgers are both terrible in the bigger games. They are choke artists. Manning had the same problem in college.

  99. Bystander says:

    Don’t worry Blumpy..you’re not one of those working hard people getting screwed. You are the parasite crowd who thinks they deserve retire for life bc you (delusionally) “sacrificed” your private sector career as CEO to help the poor children.

  100. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    The elementary school let the kids pick a significant historical person to study this month. Half the kids picked athletes or performers. Enough said.

  101. Libturd says:

    Absolutely.

    The playbook was complete Belichek.

    Also, some people say you make your own luck. :P

  102. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This…

    They were by far the best team in the NFL. Unfortunately, the best team rarely wins in the nfl.

    Nice overall writeup….esp fresh fournette part.

    “Rodgers played almost a flawless NFC Championship game in 2021. It is hard to overcome the Packer secondary handing Brady 14 pts and Aaron Jones fumbling for almost an automatic 7. Is it Rodgers fault that Brady was handed 21 points? Also, Davante Adams dropped a TD and a 2-pt conversion was dropped. That is a 29 point swing.”

  103. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Are you paying 1650 a month to house someone in a warm apartment? Yea, I’m not getting screwed. I also pay annually over 30,000 in property taxes. More than most pay in a couple years.

    Bystander says:
    February 8, 2021 at 1:48 pm
    Don’t worry Blumpy..you’re not one of those working hard people getting screwed.

  104. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    Understand the private sector has unlimited upside. Take advantage of the hand you were dealt. Trust me, your life wouldn’t be better if you had become a teacher. Grass is always greener on the other side. Most teacher pay is a joke. (at least to successful people) You should not be envious of a teacher because they are promised a pension that is being stolen by everyone.

    I’m stuck in teaching till at least 25 years, but don’t think for a second the thought doesn’t sometimes cross my mind what I could have done if I didn’t end up here. I have the drive, ambition, and competitive nature to win at most things I take part in. I’m not afraid to work hard and sacrifice. I would have done well in the corporate sector. Add in the baby face, and chances are I would have done well.

  105. BRT says:

    The elementary school let the kids pick a significant historical person to study this month. Half the kids picked athletes or performers. Enough said.

    What annoys me more than anything about the elementary focus on this month is that they often have not a single mention of all those amazing musicians that came out of Motown. Same for any jazz musicians. Completely ignored.

  106. Libturd says:

    You know the country is divided when both sides can’t even find the middle over a commercial about the middle.

  107. ExEssex says:

    We all agree with Ninja: https://youtu.be/cegdR0GiJl4

  108. leftwing says:

    “Give it a rest. Each state has their own rules on how elections run.”

    Bystander, you give it a rest.

    With a little reading comprehension you would understand that is what was being said…the States did not follow their own rules on elections.

  109. chicagofinance says:

    Phoenix: how about this one?
    https://youtu.be/HSRieuzms24?t=73

  110. chicagofinance says:

    Forgot about this one too….
    https://youtu.be/HSRieuzms24?t=164

  111. Libturd says:

    My favorite ever.

    Well, besides Chunk Chunk Chicken.

    https://youtu.be/d2QNuDUTocE

  112. Juice Box says:

    re: Springsteen

    The folks in the Midwest love him. More than most Jersey Boys would. No surprise he filmed in Kansas, but the commercial did not show the town as it’s like many small Midwestern towns, basically a poor and decrepit one horse town, they went to the city for those wintery shots.

    Who drives in a top down CJ-5 built in 1980 in winter anyway? It would never survive the salt. My buddies CJ-5 spilt in half from all the rust and this was back long ago when that happened…I doubt Jeep will sell many trucks from that spot.

    Anyway I drive by his home intentionally from time to time when headed to our Veterinarian. When he is home on his 400 acre “farm” there is usually local PD out there making a few bucks working “security”. He sells veggies grown on some lend lease to keep the taxes low. He pays something like 5 grand on most of that acreage.

    I remember the Gail King interview two years ago, he winced when Trump’s name was mentioned and said he hoped it would be over soon. To me it seems like another person suffering from TDS hence him agreeing to do a “commercial” to get it out of his system as he never sold out for commercials until well now.

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The Vast Anti-Trump ‘Conspiracy’
    Time magazine reports there was ‘practically a revolution’ in America’s voting process in 2020. Was it good for the country—or just for Biden?
    Changing the rules of a game right before it’s played normally inspires skepticism, if not cynicism. But a new Time magazine report celebrates a well-funded effort to change voting processes and the flow of political information before the 2020 elections.

    Time’s Molly Ball happily describes a “conspiracy” among the progressive left, big labor, big business and the Washington establishment to counter Donald Trump and suppress unwanted elements of U.S. political conversation before and after Election Day.

    Like the various actors she describes at the heart of this vast campaign, Ms. Ball presents it as a virtuous effort to protect democracy from Mr. Trump and Covid-19. The participants in the conspiracy alleged by Ms. Ball certainly seem to have influenced the outcome. She writes:

    Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears.

    She later adds that “the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it.”

    Many voters are bound to disagree. And even those who don’t may still want a dispassionate review of the various changes to U.S. voting in 2020 and a consideration of their impact.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vast-anti-trump-conspiracy-11612813840?st=c2gfcevngwwj2uj&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  114. Libturd says:

    Why didn’t Trump say boo about mail in ballots before the election? It was only an issue after?

    Sorry bubs.

  115. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Some funny stuff…keep it coming guys.

  116. Juice Box says:

    Lib- How about “boo about Facebook”

    Cambridge Analytica a British company was blamed for the 2016 loss.

    Reality in 2020 and 2016 match up both stunk…. Both losers were crappy candidates. Nobody wants to eat that shit sandwich.

  117. 3b says:

    Juice: I think the mid westerners would be more Mellencamp fans than Springsteen. Mellencamp is also much more authentic than Springsteen is. He is also an accomplished painter.

  118. Juice Box says:

    3b -What does he know about our world?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmmHvnS0IKM

  119. Juice Box says:

    3B _ Pre-Trump interview..

    Much happier man, and like anyone else suffering from TDS I hope they recover…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8CsEqYCg68

  120. njtownhomer says:

    Bell Labs was a mecca for my industry. My manager was an alumni. Out of the labs came out of: integrated circuit, integrated mosfet transistor, switching networks, information theory, so many compression algorithms, Unix, C++ and so many research development work that would probably be valued by trillions. The final damage was done by the Carly lady, ex-Lucent presidential candidate.

    Today NYC area hosts so many tech work. GOOG, FB, AMZN, IBM etc. Apart from the oldest one which is in slow death path, the younger ones don’t share their jewels with the rest, are run like monopolies without any borders and act lawless at every occasion. They are the most profit oriented, the most valueless/senseless companies.

  121. leftwing says:

    “Why didn’t Trump say boo about mail in ballots before the election? It was only an issue after? Sorry bubs.”

    Because he’s an idiot (can’t figure it out himself) and has p1ssed off anyone who has ever come within spitting distance (has no friends among those who knew better and should have had his back).

    Do you seriously think if it were anyone else other than Trump – same exact policies and factual history but subtract the entire asshole factor – that the establishment in PA would not have challenged the Court ordered election change rather than let it die on the vine of “no standing”?

    DJT was an assh0le and no one who had the foresight, knowledge, or power was going to step up for him.

    I once had an employee, damn near our most productive. Pulled his ass out of the fire with regulators twice. Pulled his ass out of the fire from a (non-vehicular) criminal complaint next. Third licensure issue? He asked me for help again. I promised I would make it a priority. Picked up the phone right away, expressed how grateful I was for all the courtesies they granted me in the past not with just this individual, reminded them I was always objective and reasonable in my requests, and told them I no opinion in this matter. Their response was effectively “Whaaa?” while stating this individual was definitely at risk of being suspended for a very long time if not barred. My response was the same. No opinion on this matter. Guy had license pulled, we were effectively required to release him. He was p1ssed, took his case from regional regulatory office up to national level, filed against the firm, me, and others personally. Lost them all. To this day he never realized he was entirely sandbagged by those “on his side” because it was just too painful and needed to be over…..

    Regarding the election those factors still don’t make the underlying actions in the elections OK. And before/after has no bearing, it’s not like there is a 14 day statute of limitations.

  122. Libturd says:

    I seriously will never vote again in person. This way is so much easier.

  123. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “We personally have been involved in just over $200 million worth of transactions outside of New York in the last 45 days alone due to this trend, but I think over the next 12 months you’re going to see people realize that the energy in New York City, once it’s back, it’s unlike anywhere else,” he said.
    Serhant went on to say “there’s a reason cities are here,” which includes hiring new workers, training new people as well as for the “energy” in the restaurants and streets.
    “That’s why economic activity will always be the best in the cities, but, for now, we’ll take as much advantage as we can of the low-taxed states, bringing our buyers there,” he said.
    Serhant believes that New York City will start to turn back into a seller’s market by the end of 2021.

    “The buyer’s market in New York, we feel based on the numbers, basically hit its bottom last summer,” he explained. “That was the most negotiable market we’ve seen.”
    “We represented buyers who were buying on Central Park for 50% off, in SOHO for 25% off and that started to tighten now as a lot of the inventory has been cleared from the board,” Serhant continued.
    He noted that “since the beginning of 2021, we’ve seen more contracts every week, year-over-year across all price points.”
    He also believes “that’s going to continue as the year goes on as more and more people start to come back into the city and realize they’re going to have to come back to the office, they want their kids to be back with their friends.”

    https://apple.news/AeSAGHNiiRB-DztMwjgy5pw

  124. ExEssex says:

    9:12 cool story bro.

  125. Phoenix says:

    Lib, Chi, thanks for the humor. Good choices.

    Left, sometimes you can’t win no matter what you do.

    NJtownhomer. Came across video on Western Electric. Funny I thought Hawthorne plant was in NJ, but it’s not. They did have a Kearny plant, the building still exists, it’s right in front of a soon to be Amazon Distribution Center.
    I’ve always been impressed by the skill of those that developed the transistor and other things. So much right here in Jersey, yet now you can’t even get someone to plow your driveway right or tighten all 5 lug nuts.
    I like the people I work with, I learn from them every day. And I am impressed by many on this forum- I wish I had 1/10 of their knowledge about finance. So much of what is discussed on here looks like gibberish to me. Then again, if they saw me in action at work it would be a sight as well. Tonight I had a real critical case where so much was at stake (can’t discuss legally) and it went extremely well. A big deal for all involved. I do my best to hold my own and do my part. Everything I do is for the good of individuals and society as well. No problems sleeping for me.

  126. 3b says:

    Romney’s Child Care tax benefit is quite impressive. Surprised as a Republican and it would be permanent. He would pay for it with budget cuts in other areas including eliminating the state and local property tax deductions.

  127. 3b says:

    Hold And Lawyers wonder why they have such a bad reputation.

  128. Hold my beer says:

    3b

    If she was living in California or New York she would probably win.

    Apparently she’s a 40 year old teacher.

  129. crushednjmillenial says:

    Covid numbers 2/9/21 . . .

    First, on 3/9/21 was around when Italy locked down due to the Northern Italy Covid surge and medical rationing in Italian hospitals. 11 months ago, but it feels like longer ago.

    NJ 7-day new, diagnosed daily cases is at 3,483 cases. The last time it was around this number was 11/15/20.

    On 2/4/21, NJ administed an impressive 56,800 doses of vaccine. So far, that’s our daily high water mark.

    Over 1 million total doses have been administered in NJ.

    According to Bloomberg vaccine tracker, we have administered 79% of the doses NJ has received.

    Light at the end of the tunnel.

  130. crushednjmillenial says:

    ^*3/9/20 for Italian lockdown. Typo.

  131. Chicago says:

    New client sent the following to me.

    Dedicated to Phoenix and Left.

    Estate Planning

    Dave was a single guy, living at home with his father and working in the family business. He knew that he would inherit a fortune once his sickly father died.

    Dave wanted two things:
    • to learn how to invest his inheritance and,
    • to find a wife to share his fortune.

    One evening at an investment meeting, he spotted the most beautiful woman he had ever seen.
    Her natural beauty took his breath away

    “I may look like just an ordinary man,” he said to her, “but in just a few years, my father will die, and I’ll inherit 20 million dollars.”

    Impressed, the woman obtained his business card.

    Two weeks later, she became his stepmother.

    Women are so much better at estate planning than men…

  132. Libturd says:

    That one goes in the collection.

  133. Phoenix says:

    Ha. That’s a great one. The gorilla glue thing-what a mistake. Did she really think it was a bright idea? She clearly does not understand adhesives. Well, if you cannot dissolve the bonds with acetone or or other solvents the best thing to do I guess would be to cut it off and shave it bald while putting the least amount of tension on the hair follicles.

    The things I have seen people do to themselves over the years I would have enough material to write a book about, but will never do. Not including the things some have done to others. Patch ’em up, send ’em home, hope they learn a lesson. But then there is always the next one.

  134. Phoenix says:

    Apparently she’s a 40 year old teacher.

    What an example to set for students. Hopefully not science.

    At least she has a good taxpayer funded health insurance plan to pay for the future medical care she will need.

  135. Phoenix says:

    Phoenix

    Was this your case?

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/08/womans-gorilla-glue-hair-horror-gets-stickier/

    Nope. I wish. That I would take home with me as humor vs horror.

  136. leftwing says:

    Looking for help….

    Re-arranging my media. I’ve tentatively concluded I don’t want to cut the cord completely for a variety of reasons…too much of a hassle re-aggregating what I want, other than a few very specific channels the basic package suit me fine, and I’ve heard the providers price internet only aggressively close to just basic package (haven’t confirmed).

    I have four TVs with me alone in the house now. Only one is Smart. I’m thinking of keeping one box with basic cable on a non-Smart TV and getting two basic Chromecast (not Google TV) sticks for the other two. If I understand the tech correctly I’ll be able to watch everything available on the hard wired TV on the other three TVs by simply casting (not mirroring) through my phone app. Significant bill savings if I can get to the above.

    Any experiences/thoughts/known issues/alternatives?

    Stu, how are you wired?

    TYIA

  137. grim says:

    I’m thinking of giving up on Sling finally, which was the bridge to cord cutting.

    Discovery+ and Disney+ both give me everything I care about off Sling at less than 1/2 the price. Between those two and Netflix, and I’m pretty happy.

    OTA High Def antenna in your attic for local channels is the best deal going.

  138. BRT says:

    I bet pure acetone or hexanes would do the trick. Pure acetone is a much more of an irritant. Nail polish remover is diluted. DMSO would definitely work but would be dangerous in such large quantities. I’d just take the loss and cut the hair at this point.

  139. leftwing says:

    Chi, thanks for the laugh on the stepmom.

    “[covid] Light at the end of the tunnel.”

    Gottlieb is the guy to watch. He’s stating clearly that we will be in a position in 4-6 weeks where supply of vaccine exceeds demand, ie. much sooner than people think we will be in re-open mode especially when paired with weather turning.

    Likely partial explanation for the market runup….

  140. grim says:

    Buzz it off and be done. You might need to wait a week or two for it to grow out enough to get the buzzer under.

    I’m going to sue the drone company for the drone getting stuck in my daughters hair and having to cut it out.

  141. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Chi,

    That was great. Lmao

  142. Libturd says:

    My setup is 3 TVs in total with 3 Apple TV boxes hooked up to them (I get them for free from the casin0s and they have an awesome interface (Apple’s forte).

    Living room is the high end surround setup (only 5.1). Purchased an in window OTA powered ANT for about $30 at Best Buy and it works great. The only local channel we struggle with is NBC.

    Bedroom we have a cheapo $12 OTA ANT and it works great.

    Basement is also rigged for 5.1 surround.

    We piggy back off of a relatives NetFlix account and have Amazon Prime already. There are five of us with varied tastes so our only paid subscription is Disney+ for the little guy mainly, though we all watch the Mando! We are Sports nuts so our largest expense is FUBO at $65 a month (includes DVR). For whatever reason, Apple gives us APPLE + for free and has for quite a while now. Not sure why, but we’ll take it.

    Our internet is Fios 200/200. It’s $30 a month and we use our own ASUS Router which is awesome due to MU-MIMO. Never have a slowdown from anywhere in the house. The 2.6 channels go halfway up the block.

    So for $100 a month, we have more channels than we had with FIOS extreme, much more sports, streaming to all devices (we can watch sports on our phones anywhere), a DVR, 4K programs, Disney+, Amazon Prime (which we never watch anyway). Between OTA and PLEX, Cheddar, etc., there are endless free movies and programs to watch. Back in the FIOS cable days, I was paying $170 for much, much less, a sh1ttier signal and 50/50 internet. If you don’t watch a lot of TV, you really can get away with Chromecasts and just stream to them from your phone and save another $70. Especially with the OTA antenna. Cool thing about FUBO and these other services is that you can turn them on and off without penalty. Travelling for a month, suspend service and save $65. They are completely cool with it.

  143. Libturd says:

    Grim,

    Who was driving the drone.

  144. The Great Pumpkin says:

    40 year old teacher?

    Well, this is what you get with a public education in a state like Louisiana. You pay them such a little amount, you attract losers like this. I’m sure there are some good teachers out there in these locations, but the majority are probably awful. NJ has some awful teachers, but the majority are good. You pay for what you get. No way around it.

    Phoenix says:
    February 9, 2021 at 9:57 am
    Phoenix

    Was this your case?

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/08/womans-gorilla-glue-hair-horror-gets-stickier/

    Nope. I wish. That I would take home with me as humor vs horror.

  145. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Left, my post got lost in moderation.

  146. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Check out what your cable tv providers are offering. In the spirit of competition, their prices have come down. So all pretty much the same price for live tv now….not same price, but around the same range.

  147. Libturd says:

    I just got my win/loss statements from Atlantic City for 2020. I made $900 at the Borgata and $9,000 at Caesars. Not bad after $1,500,000 wagered. I am unlimited food and beverage (and rooms of course) at the Caesars empire (Bally’s, Harrah’s and Caesars Palace) and free suites at the Borg.

    To go with the cash winnings, I also received about $2,000 in gift cards. $1800 in airfare and probably 30 free nights in hotel suites. Figure about $10,000 in overpriced casin0 food.

    I also managed to just make top level at Caesars again, so I earned all of those privileges for yet another year.

    And it’s not always gravy. I was down about 10K at the middle of the year only to have an absolutely astonishing (but not extraordinary) comeback.

  148. Walking says:

    Libturd
    You forgot to mention that over the air streams hd in 5.1 for major events like the superbowl, at least back when I had ota. Bi have a samsung tuner boxed in my garage if you need one

  149. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Prying Open ‘Trade Secrets’

    Courts and lawmakers are looking to curb the trade-secrets privileges granted to companies, which can be invoked in civil and criminal cases to protect intellectual property, The Wall Street Journal’s David Uberti reports.

    Secret code. A New Jersey appeals court last week allowed a defendant in a criminal case to obtain the source code for the AI-powered software used by police to identify him.

    A risky balance. Some executives and prosecutors say forcing such disclosures can open the door to IP theft or cyber threats.

  150. Chicago says:

    Chicago says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    February 9, 2021 at 12:06 pm
    Lib: Are you comfortable in the cas!nos?

    I want to go, but simply haven’t been able to justify.

  151. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Economists: Robots threaten jobs. Raising the minimum wage could have the unintended consequence of accelerating the use of AI-enabled automation at big box stores, as business owners seek to cut labor costs, some economists warn. (Valley News)

    https://www.valleynewslive.com/2021/02/07/experts-say-minimum-wage-increase-could-lead-to-more-artificial-intelligence/?mod=djemAIPro

  152. The Great Pumpkin says:

    A message shared again and again by executives during the recent earnings period is the degree to which tech stopgap measures initiated in the pandemic’s early days are now pointing the way towards future resilience and growth.

    Count Wendy’s CIO Kevin Vasconi among the believers. The pandemic prompted many fast-food chain operators to accelerate efforts to improve off-premises and contactless capabilities where customers pick up mobile orders at the counter. “Those are all going to stay around long after Covid goes,” he tells The Wall Street Journal’s Angus Loten. “A lot of new consumer behavior is going to stick around, too” he said.

    Wendy’s saw a 15% increase in app downloads in the U.S. between July and October. “The fact of the matter is digital is the way everything is going to be purchased,” he continued. “The more digital you do, the more data you get.”

  153. 3b says:

    Lib What’s the story on this snow/ice storm thing on Thursday?

  154. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Low skilled workers are f’ed! Too bad they won’t do a damn thing about it to help themselves. If you don’t want to improve your skills, you better be sacrificing by investing most of your dollars. Of course, they won’t do a damn thing about it and will look for helicopter money from the productive class in the form of redistribution through taxes.

    Let’s create a generation of humans that do nothing but consume. What can go wrong?!

    “Door Dash acquires robotics startup. DoorDash said it is acquiring robotics startup Chowbotics, signaling increased interest in automating food production when ordering in is at an all-time high, The Wall Street Journal’s Preetika Rana reports.

    Hold the manpower. Chowbotics’ technology can whip up salads and poke bowls, among other things, and DoorDash is exploring how to deploy it across restaurants, a person familiar with the matter said. Ideas include using the technology to help restaurants expand their menu—such as enabling a pizzeria to offer salads—or to allow a salad bar to try out new locations—a kiosk at an airport, for instance—without the need for more manpower.”

  155. Libturd says:

    Chi,

    I play video poker. I won’t play if there is anyone within 15 feet of me. I sanitize the machine and seat before I play and I usually won’t move except to take a whiz. I don’t drink nor do I eat in the restaurants. I also mask like a mofo. Where I play there are pretty high ceilings too. Though so many people want me to believe that masks don’t work, every single person I know who got it was the type of people who did not wear one regularly. I won’t step foot into a supermarket because of the poor mask compliance as well as the overcrowding. When I am in a casin0, you won’t find a single person trying to cheat. There is security everywhere making it so. They also check temps and there are gel dispensers everywhere. I wouldn’t dare go near a table game though. That’s definitely risky. Especially with the sharing of chips, the proximity to the other players, as well as the exposure time. If someone sits near me, I just get some fresh air. The place is generally dead anyway except on Saturday nights, for which I avoid them. I get my second shot next week.

  156. Libturd says:

    Ice for the 11th and 12th looks more like a minor snow event mainly for ChiFi and South. Maybe a dusting to 2″ tops up here. The monster will be next Sunday into Monday if things come together, right now it looks like a 12″er. Still too far out to call.

  157. Libturd says:

    Walking. Thanks. I got all I need in the way of tuners. I got a beautiful Denon in the basement collecting dust.

  158. 3b says:

    Thanks Lib. I hate Winter. Is that this Sunday the 14th you are talking about?

  159. Libturd says:

    More of a Monday event

  160. BRT says:

    “[covid] Light at the end of the tunnel.”

    Gottlieb is the guy to watch. He’s stating clearly that we will be in a position in 4-6 weeks where supply of vaccine exceeds demand, ie. much sooner than people think we will be in re-open mode especially when paired with weather turning.

    Likely partial explanation for the market runup….

    There is already a significant part of the population that quit on covid. As people get vaccinated, they join that group. 50% vaccination heading into ssummer with natural drop off in cases from seasonality factors. Last year, we saw a baseline of 300 cases per day at the state level, which is incredibly miniscule. The fact that people were still freaking out in that environment is pretty laughable. With a significant portion of the population vaccinated along with a large percentage of the population having recovered from actual infection, that baseline number will be significantly lower IMO.

    Cases are rapidly declining and we can probably get to a point where people can purchase monoclonal antibodies as prophylactic to prevent infection outright. According to Osterholm, there’s a hurricane out at sea about to hit us and run rampant. The viral mutations. I’m not so convinced.

  161. grim says:

    Get my second shot on Monday.

  162. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Vac­ci­na­tion dri­ves hold out the prom­ise of curb­ing Covid-19, but gov­ern­ments and busi­nesses are in­creas­ingly ac­cept­ing what epi­demi­ol­o­gists have long warned: The pathogen will cir­cu­late for years, or even decades, leav­ing so­ci­ety to co­ex­ist with Covid-19 much as it does with other en­demic dis­eases like flu, measles, and HIV.

    The ease with which the coro­n­avirus spreads, the emer­gence of new strains and poor ac­cess to vac­cines in large parts of the world mean Covid-19 could shift from a pan­demic dis­ease to an en­demic one, im­ply­ing last­ing mod­i­fi­ca-tions to per­sonal and so­ci­etal be­hav­ior, epi­demi­ol­o­gists say.

    “Go­ing through the five phases of grief, we need to come to the ac­cep­tance phase that our lives are not go­ing to be the same,” said Thomas Frieden, for­mer di­rec­tor of the U.S. Cen­ters for Dis­ease Con­trol and Pre­ven­tion. “I don’t think the world has re­ally ab­sorbed the fact that these are long-term changes.”

    En­demic Covid-19 doesn’t nec­es­sar­ily mean con­tin­u­ing coro­n­avirus re­stric-tions, in­fec­tious-dis­ease ex­perts said, largely be­cause vac­cines are so ef­fec­tive at pre­vent­ing se­vere dis­ease and slash­ing hos­pi­tal­iza­tions and deaths. Hos­pi­tal­iza­tions have al­ready fallen 30% in Is­rael af­ter it vac­ci­nated a third of its pop­u­la­tion. Deaths there are ex­pected to plum­met in weeks ahead.

  163. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Mutations in the novel coronavirus variants appear to have made it better at infecting human cells or at evading some antibodies, raising concerns that existing vaccines might become less effective. Scientists say monitoring for new variants will be critical to vaccination programs long term. Understanding their characteristics will help determine whether the shots need to be updated periodically, as they are for flu.

    Vaccinations will be just as important when the pandemic subsides and Covid-19 becomes endemic.

    “People seem to think that when a virus becomes endemic, it becomes attenuated and it doesn’t become as serious,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the Center for Global Health Science and Security at Georgetown University. The misconception stems from the fact that usually viruses evolve to maximize the number of people they infect before they kill.

    But most people survive Covid-19, so “there’s not a lot of pressure for this virus to become more attenuated because it’s already spreading and finding new hosts and new opportunities to replicate before its hosts are getting sick,” she said. “It’s doing just fine.”

  164. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Too funny. Shows you who is boss in America and China. In America, it sure as hell is not our govt.

    “Tesla summoned by Chinese regulators on quality issues. The electric auto maker has been summoned by Chinese authorities citing consumer complaints about quality issues, The Journal’s Trefor Moss and Yoko Kubota report.

    More apologies. Tesla Shanghai said it “sincerely accepted the guidance of government departments.” It said it had “deeply reflected on shortcomings” and was working on strengthening its operations.

    Compare with U.S. response. Last year Elon Musk battled with local authorities in California that temporarily ordered his lone U.S. car plant closed to slow the spread of the coronavirus.”

  165. Libturd says:

    Tesla quality has always been horrible. Which is crazy considering the lack of moving parts. I really hope that they get beat down by a competitor.

  166. Libturd says:

    Joyce, is that dickhead in Bloomfield still working somewhere?

  167. joyce says:

    When I ask “why” I’m not looking for the actual reason, but what is the stated reason what a spokesman would say in response… Why doesn’t the prosecutor file charges against that cop for lying on the police report, lying to the grand jury, perjury, etc.?

  168. chicagofinance says:

    Alright….. that is exactly what I didn’t want to hear….. I am BlackJack and Craps…

    Libturd says:
    February 9, 2021 at 12:37 pm
    Chi,
    I wouldn’t dare go near a table game though. That’s definitely risky. Especially with the sharing of chips, the proximity to the other players, as well as the exposure time. If someone sits near me, I just get some fresh air.

  169. chicagofinance says:

    chicagofinance says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    February 9, 2021 at 4:32 pm
    Cable service.

    I probably posted in the past.
    We are sticking with conventional TV and internet for now.
    Alt!ce gives us an app for the phones and Smart TV’s…. that app just rolled out in the last few weeks. I can watch all channels on my phone, XB0x or smart TV without cable box. From anywhere including out of market.

    The main reason we stick with TV and ONE cable box is the DVR. It is impossible to replicate our experience anywhere else. Not just recording, but having an active ability to replay and stop live television.

    Amazon Prime and also our wireless phone plan from AT&T gives us free D!isney+ & HBO Max. We piggyback on my mom’s Netfl!x.

  170. chicagofinance says:

    Also, I called Altice about 2 months ago. They cut the bill $105 without even asking. We have no choices here. We have no FiOS and will never have it because are services are buried. I will gladly accept that tradeoff….. buries services in the suburbs is a G-odsend.

  171. chicagofinance says:

    our services

  172. No One says:

    Libturd,
    What does your gaming income work out to on an hourly basis?
    Do you actually like playing the games and being in the buildings?
    My daughter had a few week-long dance competitions in such places over the years and I hated the atmosphere, could not wait to get away.

    You would have enjoyed being a pro investor more I think. Maybe you should start a hedge fund from Costa Rica.

  173. crushednjmillenial says:

    MJ stock mania? . . .

    Anyone think this keeps pumping for a while? $TLRY

  174. leftwing says:

    TY all on the recommendations for cable/internet….

    Fios made one avenue a bit easier than alternatives.

    I had purchased a few years back a two year contract for the one gig option. Had to bundle in all the bells and whistles to get a favored rate. That plan expired but they kept the old pricing. The rack cost for those services today is $267.

    Basically, they let me disaggregate the plan at my old rate, dropping options I didn’t want for credit. Killed everything but two boxes.

    My 1GB Fios internet plus what they used to call TV Preferred HD (about 375 stations) is now $109 pre-tax. Don’t think I can beat that even cutting the cord once I factor in raw internet which is $80 alone and then add some baseline streaming service. I retain all the TV stations not just at home on the box but can cast them to the other home TVs and still go mobile with them.

    I’m part of a family Netflix plan as well (lol) that I actually use, my Prime membership is up tomorrow so I’ll renew it and for the first time explore what they have. Pretty good outcome overall. Fios was, unbelievably to me, actually very user friendly.

  175. leftwing says:

    “Get my second shot on Monday.”

    First appointment on tues here…..whatever weather rolls in early next week better not fcuk that up.

  176. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Left,

    Sick deal. Told you, cable companies came fighting back. I was one of the first to cut cords. Enjoyed the cheap rates for a minute, and then watched them steadily climb.

    I’m a fan of good movies or series…so I support a lot. Have pretty much all the major streaming services. Sometimes I don’t watch use one of them for a month, but trying to do my part to support it so they don’t go away.

  177. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Treat it like a penny play. Ride the momentum, but don’t get caught holding overnight.

    crushednjmillenial says:
    February 9, 2021 at 6:03 pm
    MJ stock mania? . . .

    Anyone think this keeps pumping for a while? $TLRY

  178. BRT says:

    There’s mania everywhere in an out of various assets. It seems to be changing by the day. Hurry up Joe, we need more stimulus. Back in the day, stimulus was like caffeine for the marketplace. Now it’s like coke, speed, and adderal all in one shot…intravenously.

  179. Libturd says:

    The last time my net worth grew this quickly, the housing bubble busted hard a few months later. Just sayin’.

    No one,

    Yes, it would have been smarter making money managing other people’s money. I’m sure I would have been quite good at it. But I am too honest for that gig. I honestly can’t stand shysters. It’s why I eat salesmen alive. I take them to task on their bullsh1t without any remorse. I swear to you, when I bought my last car, when they sent me to the room in the back where they try to sell you all the options you don’t need, the salesmen who worked with me to sell me the car up front told the guy in the back to not even bother trying with me. He starts by trying to sell me the warranty, I told him I would be willing to pay $90 a year for it. He laughs. Then I immediately ask him to remove the window etch charge.

    I did well enough going the traditional route and I sleep great at night. I am the least stressed person you will ever find.

  180. Libturd says:

    Friday storm could be back on (still not a monster, but models are trending north again). Could be a 3-5/4-6 event.

  181. Chicago says:

    Ouch. Wtf does that mean?

    Libturd says:
    February 9, 2021 at 10:38 pm

    Yes, it would have been smarter making money managing other people’s money. I’m sure I would have been quite good at it. But I am too honest for that gig.

  182. Phoenix says:

    Don’t plan too much on your day after the second shot. It might slow you down a little or it might slow you down a whole lot.

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