C19 Open Discussion Week 60

From HousingWire:

Home prices soared in March amid record demand

This is getting to be a problem. Home prices in the U.S. soared 18% year-over-year in March 2021 to a median of $356,000, according to a report Redfin released Friday that provided stark evidence of a housing market where demand greatly exceeds supply.

Homes sold in March were on the market for 21 days, per the report, the shortest period between listing and sale since 2012. Forty-six percent of homes sold within a week after the hitting the market.

At first, such high demand was leading to record home sales. A National Association of Realtors’report from 2020’s end found the highest volume of home sales since 2006. But the NAR reported this week that home sales in March fell for the second month in a row as inventory plunged and home prices climbed to record levels.

Where matters are becoming problematic is that high demand is now a direct cause for the low inventory.

For months there was a question in the market “about whether fear of coronavirus infection was keeping homeowners from selling,” stated Daryl Fairweather, chief economist at Redfin.

But with a third of U.S. adults now vaccinated, Fairweather explained, it’s increasingly clear that people don’t fear contact with strangers as much as not having a new home to move into.

Another reason for low inventory – active listings were down 47% in March compared to March 2019, per the report – are low mortgage interest rates. Freddie Mac reported Thursday that interest on an average fixed-rate mortgage is now less than 3%. Instead of looking for a new home, Fairweather found, homeowners are just refinancing the mortgage payment on their current one.

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177 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 60

  1. grim says:

    What’s Plan B when when India workers go offline for a few weeks while they battle the illness?”

    “We are experiencing longer than normal wait times”

    India outsource market has been working from home for nearly a year now.

  2. Chicago says:

    2nd

  3. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Buy now or be priced out is real. Definitely hitting new price levels, meaning those prices from 2010-2019 are never coming back. Just like the prices from 1980’s to 1990’s are never coming back. Higher highs and higher lows..

  4. Bystander says:

    “From March 2020 to March 2021, the average lease price of an apartment in Fairfield County has gone up 44.2 percent, from $2,775 a month to $4,002 a month, according to Smart MLS”

    I have not looked at data. Could be larger apts being rented? Again this won’t end well.

  5. Fast Eddie says:

    Brielle was mentioned this morning on the radio as one of the hottest markets or luxury markets in the nation. “Pant” up demand continues unabated!!

  6. Phoenix says:

    Maybe TATA should get into the oxygen/humanitarian business and help it’s own people.

    “India braced for 500,000 infections a day: Experts warn crisis may not peak for two weeks after nation suffered 350,000 new cases today as hospitals turn away patients after running out of oxygen.”

  7. Bystander says:

    But, but..billions in tax breaks work. Republicans told us so.Dumpy brought manufacturing back to US. He was the greatest.

    “The over/under on job creation for the Foxconn project in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, was always approximately zero, and I would have taken the under every time. The ballyhooed deal officially blew up this week, when the Taiwanese electronics manufacturer—famed for producing Apple’s iPhones in an immense Chinese factory so dehumanizing that it drove workers there to suicide—dramatically downsized its promised $10 billion commitment in the plant by more than 90 percent, and reduced its jobs promise to 1,454, down from 13,000. The new targets just delay the inevitable pullout, leaving behind an enormous debt for local officials and ratepayers, who prepared themselves for an industrial revolution that will never come.”

  8. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    I posted that yesterday. Trees.

    Have to say that Daily Mail has it’s finger on the pulse of America. The cop punching the autistic kid on there today as well.

    Look at your local Facebook posts. The ones were I live are either the head buried in the sand type, or the racist, nutcase, or just plain Karen.

    Zuck might be credited one day for singlehandedly starting the end of civilization.

  9. Phoenix says:

    So tell me again why our military and government is protecting Taiwan?

    “The ballyhooed deal officially blew up this week, when the Taiwanese electronics manufacturer—famed for producing Apple’s iPhones in an immense Chinese factory so dehumanizing that it drove workers there to suicide—”

  10. 3b says:

    Fed figuring out the parameters to inform the markets they will be tapering their massive involvement in the markets. No rage rise until 2023, but setting ground work now for how this is to be accomplished. Bunch of Fed speak nonsense. Simply, they are trying to determine how they end their involvement without spooking the market, and t let the market know they may have to pull back hard. Proof the market/ asset prices are in a massive bubble.

  11. Phoenix says:

    Maybe it’s that America still has it’s cravings for slavery and exploitation deep down in it’s core.

    Time to go to your house of worship to let the guy know upstairs how moral and righteous you all are. Especially you heroes in blue and judges in “Superior” court.

  12. ExEssex says:

    Shower Thought: “empathizing” with a cause and actually caring about it are completely different things.

  13. leftwing says:

    “Shower Thought: “empathizing” with a cause and actually caring about it are completely different things.”

    Adult-speak for I understand you but don’t necessarily agree with an argument you may make based on your points.

    So, yes, completely different things, intentionally.

  14. leftwing says:

    “Fed figuring out the parameters to inform the markets they will be tapering their massive involvement in the markets.”

    Remind me again, in the face of unemployment at normal levels and GDP near all time historic highs, why we are allowing an unelected bunch of bureaucratic academics (ugh) to institute a permanent increase in the prices people pay for everyday goods and services by way of indenturing anyone under the age of 50?

    Just wonderin’……

  15. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How is this a massive bubble? You think housing and stocks are over 50% inflated? I just don’t agree…

    3b says:
    April 25, 2021 at 10:49 am
    Fed figuring out the parameters to inform the markets they will be tapering their massive involvement in the markets. No rage rise until 2023, but setting ground work now for how this is to be accomplished. Bunch of Fed speak nonsense. Simply, they are trying to determine how they end their involvement without spooking the market, and t let the market know they may have to pull back hard. Proof the market/ asset prices are in a massive bubble.

  16. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If the market took a 50% haircut, the exact thing as last year will happen. They will buy the shit out of it.

  17. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So I don’t know what you are hoping for..

  18. Phoenix says:

    Hey Pumps,
    Those in Paterson know the money is in Wayne.

    Be prepared when they come to get it. And they will.

    But unlike you, they have nothing to lose.

    It’s coming. Be patient. It’s only a matter of time now.

  19. Bystander says:

    Phoenix,

    They really like to target homes with speedy highway getaway.

  20. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Florida’s real-estate boom is threatened by rising property-insurance costs and mounting losses at insurers, industry executives and analysts say

    MIAMI—Florida’s property-insurance market is headed toward a crisis, as mounting carrier losses and rising premiums threaten the state’s booming real-estate market, according to insurance executives and industry analysts.

    Longtime homeowners are getting socked with double-digit rate increases or notices that their policies won’t be renewed. Out-of-state home buyers who have flocked to Florida during the pandemic are experiencing sticker shock. Insurers that are swimming in red ink are cutting back coverage in certain geographic areas to shore up their finances.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/insurance-costs-threaten-florida-real-estate-boom-11619343002

  21. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Jersey taxes not so bad after all. Climate change only going to amplify this.

    “Eric Fire­stone, a 37-year-old teacher who lives with his wife in the Mi­ami area, re­ceived a let­ter from their in­sur­ance com­pany in Feb­ruary say­ing their pol­icy wouldn’t be re­newed be­cause the car­rier was no longer ser­vic­ing their area. When their in­sur­ance agent shopped for an al­ter­na­tive, the cheap­est one she could find had a $9,644 an­nual pre­mium—an 85% in­crease over their most re­cent pre­mium of $5,205.

    “Where am I go­ing to get the ex­tra $4,000?” Mr. Fire­stone said. “Worst-case sce­nario, I will have to go into credit-card debt.””

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Like I previously said on this board, northeast the best place to own real estate long term. We don’t deal with the natural disasters like these other places deal with. Hence, we have cheap home insurance and access to cheap water. Two things that might become very expensive this century in other parts of the country.

  23. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Comment nails it…

    “I’m tired of the American Taxpayers bailing these guys out after ever f’ing hurricane (I mean disaster…), only to have them bitch about big Gov, and Gov handouts. Let them buy their own insurance…..”

  24. BRT says:

    Lived in Brielle for a year and next door to it for a decade. Never quite understood the allure. It’s a shore town with no beach. Decent homes, but never quite agreed with the price. Restaurant scene is lame. If you are looking for peace and quiet, I guess it’s a good buy.

  25. Fast Eddie says:

    Lived in Brielle for a year and next door to it for a decade. Never quite understood the allure.

    First of all, Monmouth County as opposed to Ocean County. Aside from Bay Head and Mantoloking, Ocean County s.ucks, scrub pines and Mississippi-like ambience. Talk about not seeing the allure, I never understood the Toms River draw. Ugh. Anyway, Monmouth County has some really quant areas, very desirable, beautiful homes. Brielle, Sea Girt, Spring Lake… very nice.

  26. 3b says:

    Left: Well said, that’s exactly what we are turning the younger generation into, indentured servants. And some cheer this madness on.

  27. BRT says:

    First of all, Monmouth County as opposed to Ocean County. Aside from Bay Head and Mantoloking, Ocean County s.ucks, scrub pines and Mississippi-like ambience. Talk about not seeing the allure, I never understood the Toms River draw. Ugh. Anyway, Monmouth County has some really quant areas, very desirable, beautiful homes. Brielle, Sea Girt, Spring Lake… very nice.

    I agree, lived in Monmouth for 8 years, ocean for 2. Brielle definitely is a beautiful town, but I don’t think the price is justified. I’d say, 4 blocks in Sea Girt/Spring Lake is far far nicer.

  28. leftwing says:

    “Our adults.”

    Funny, until you realize their vote counts as much as yours…. :)

  29. Hold my beer says:

    Our adults

    That would explain how we are rapidly on the road to feudalism

  30. ExEssex says:

    As the U.S. Census Bureau prepares to release its first batch of population data next week, California is bracing for the first time to lose one of its 53 congressional seats. The data will probably show that California’s population grew 6.5 percent over the last decade, slightly below the national average. The state has reported a net loss of nearly half a million people in the last two years alone.

    But the more detailed data to be released in the coming months will show that California’s out-of-state exodus is overshadowed by the churning movement of people within its borders, now remaking once-rural communities such as this one.

    For many in California, the coronavirus outbreak accelerated the move from city to distant suburbs, acting in the words of one Bay Area business leader as a “steroid” for migration. The pandemic forced a decision point for working-parent families such as the Sessionses — a nurse, a firefighter and a second-grade son.

    “Once covid hit and school stopped, I thought, ‘What are we going to do?’ ” said Sessions, whose family moved from Novato, which sits in the county across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco. “It just wasn’t sustainable with both of us working. We came up here for the kindness and the freedom. It’s just simpler.”

  31. Yo! says:

    Fast Eddie: “Talk about not seeing the allure, I never understood the Toms River draw.”

    Toms River population grew from 8,000 in 1950 to 94,000 in 2019, according to Census data. Obviously, people are voting with their feet to live there.

    Why? A few thoughts why Toms River appeals compared to NJ counties further north:

    1) Newer housing stock
    2) More affordable housing
    3) Good public schools
    4) Low crime
    5) 90% white

    Toms River could be most successful NJ municipality in decades. What other NJ municipality has welcome more people into middle class life?

  32. ExEssex says:

    Tom’s River seems to attract retired state pensioners.

  33. Hold my beer says:

    Toms River is like pine tree infested version of Edison, except it’s almost all white.

  34. Walking says:

    Toms River is also attracts lots of retired union bosses as well. Though many current union bosses are heading to Delaware for retirement.

  35. Fast Eddie says:

    Bricktown is also know as Brickletuckey. My family had a vacation home in the Toms River area for years. My Aunt and Uncle has/had a house in Seaside Park for years, I bought my first home in the area and one of my Siblings had a house in North Toms River which is now Lakewood South. The Orthodox Jews have moved in en masse. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but it’s just an observation. Toms River is mostly white because 95% of the population growth is Seniors.

    It’s 80 miles from a city which is another negative. Route 37 is depressing and the Ocean County Mall was always considered a joke. Ocean County is for going to the beach and your shore house if you own one. That’s it. Otherwise, the area s.ucks. It’s where culture goes to die and there’s two roads in and out; Route 9 or the Parkway. And once you hit Manchester, Beachwood or Bayville, you’re basically south of the Mason/Dixon line. In fact, project the southern border of Pennsylvania over to East and it runs through Barnegat. Drive west through the pine barrens and pray you don’t break down. At night, the bats bounce off your windshield when you drive up/down route 539.

  36. 3b says:

    Fast Eddie: You are pretty harsh on the Toms River and below part of the state. You sound like one of those elitist liberals. I have seen lots of mullets and cut off jeans and construction boots and pickup trucks that sort of stereotype you are referencing in Bergen Co. as well. Go to parts of Mahwah and Midland Park, and head further to Ringwood and Greenwood Lake, and you will see it thee as well. Quite frankly there isn’t all that much culture in Bergen Co, pretty dull and very conformist in many respects. As for the Jewish community in Lakewood, I would say ultra Orthodox defines that community.

  37. Fast Eddie says:

    Go to parts of Mahwah and Midland Park, and head further to Ringwood and Greenwood Lake, and you will see it thee as well.

    You mean the Jackson Whites, the DeGroats and other Hillbillies in the Ramapo Mountains? Go a few miles west of the route 17/287 intersection and you are in a scene from Deliverance. Stag Hill Road! Oh yeah, know it well. Who woulda thunk it! But, Toms River and everything south of that is pretty much on the same level. There’s some scary shit going on in those pine barrens!

  38. 3b says:

    Fast : You can argue you will see lots of that in all of rural America.

  39. No One says:

    Pumptard,
    Remember that time NJ got hit by a hurricane so hard that NJ’s big fat governor got down on his knees in front of Obama’s big old checkbook?

  40. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast is correct. I used to go dirt bike riding down in the pine barrens. First encounters with locals…Wild, just wild what you will see. It’s another world.

    3b says:
    April 25, 2021 at 9:13 pm
    Fast Eddie: You are pretty harsh on the Toms River and below part of the state. You sound like one of those elitist liberals. I have seen lots of mullets and cut off jeans and construction boots and pickup trucks that sort of stereotype you are referencing in Bergen Co. as well. Go to parts of Mahwah and Midland Park, and head further to Ringwood and Greenwood Lake, and you will see it thee as well. Quite frankly there isn’t all that much culture in Bergen Co, pretty dull and very conformist in many respects. As for the Jewish community in Lakewood, I would say ultra Orthodox defines that community.

  41. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Miami International Airport turns into slugfest after massive brawl breaks out

    https://apple.news/AqIkwXH8uTM-3Xq9yleMP7w

  42. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, but we are not the one’s crying about big govt when times are good, and then begging for help when a financial problem comes along.

    It’s annoying to listen to their low tax mantra when how many federal dollars get pumped into their state every hurricane? Why do they even let people build there? It’s like the River rats in Wayne or the idiots that continue to build in the hills of Cali despite the fire risk. It’s fine if you want to live in these high risk areas, but no f’ing money from Uncle Sam when things go wrong. No housing insurance…nothing. They should be on their own…leeches.

    No One says:
    April 25, 2021 at 10:24 pm
    Pumptard,
    Remember that time NJ got hit by a hurricane so hard that NJ’s big fat governor got down on his knees in front of Obama’s big old checkbook?

  43. ExEssex says:

    Oscars so boring. I see a time when the Oscars are juuuuust like the MTV “music” awards after they killed Rock Music.

  44. joyce says:

    It’s where culture goes to die

    Would it kill you to come up with a new line? Jeez, does everything about you have to be a cartoonish curmudgeon?

  45. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Betting on Florida real estate could be a big mistake

    https://apple.news/AsnMkVdyWTjWyPzGClpkB-g

  46. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    This is perfect quote for your current situation. Every day that you continue to bet on yourself in said industry, is a bad bet. You put all that effort and work into something that will not reward you. I know it’s scary, but give another industry a try. You don’t have to quit your current job, but nothing wrong with going on interviews in fields and companies that will require less effort and more payout. You have nothing to lose at this point.

    “All of this leads to the 15 word quote, which Buffett actually said in context in an interview a decade ago. It’s the middle sentence of the three in the passage below:
    “The interesting thing about business, it’s not like the Olympics. You don’t get any extra points for the fact that something’s very hard to do. So you might as well just step over one-foot bars, instead of trying to jump over seven-foot bars.””

  47. Phoenix says:

    This Karen is a real winner.

    https://youtu.be/UZHSsg3LrTQ?t=56

  48. Fast Eddie says:

    Would it kill you to come up with a new line? Jeez, does everything about you have to be a cartoonish curmudgeon?

    Get off my lawn, you little whipper-snapper!!

  49. Libturd says:

    The Karens are great. I watched ten minutes of the Oscars. Holy woke/cancel culture fest. Who cares what a lucky actor says or thinks? Anyone?

  50. 3b says:

    Lib: Because many Americans are dumb shites, left or right. They need celebrities and sports stars to tell them how to think.

  51. ExEssex says:

    I think people see through Hollywood these days. The abuse and exploitation tolerated mean they have no “moral high ground” and should really stfu.

  52. 3b says:

    Why do we seem to have so many Karen’s these days?

  53. ExEssex says:

    Unhappy women. Poor mental hygiene.

  54. leftwing says:

    Mentioned before this is the guy to listen to… Informed, apolitical, factual, and not afraid to admit when he is wrong

    Time to End Outdoor Mask Edicts – The Wall Street Journal.
    Time to End Outdoor Mask Edicts https://www.wsj.com/articles/time-to-end-outdoor-mask-edicts-11619383852

  55. Bystander says:

    Too bad that area school districts did not hire Indian teachers for $100/day, no benefits to teach American kids over Zoom. Seriously, they would have been substantial improvement over Blumpkin-quality hacks. We would all get huge tax decrease and I could then preach to millions of teachers about just re-inventing themselves in their 40s.

    Anyone other than delusional Blumpkin denying that major inflation is here? I thought not.

  56. BRT says:

    Speaking of schools, if you total the amount of cases in our elementary schools, one of our schools has had a grand total of 7 cases since September. And they were all contracted out of school. That’s less than 1 per month.

  57. Juice Box says:

    Just watched a video of an Oxygen tank filling station in India. Low worker safety the way they just stack those containers flat in trucks for sure.

    A single canister is 60 inches tall and weighs 150 lbs, and sadly it lasts about only 1 hour of oxygen for a covid-19 patient.

    Their hospitals do not have sufficient on-site production and rely mostly on these cannisters. Their government ordered hundreds of oxygen plants to be built on site but only about three dozen have been completed.

    They are woefully short on cannisters and the ability to produce oxygen and demand is only increasing. Death toll could skyrocket. Some say it’s already five times or more than what is being reported.

  58. Fast Eddie says:

    Why do we seem to have so many Karen’s these days?

    Blame it on J Lo. Too many women want to look like her and are uber jealous. ;)

  59. Bystander says:

    Juice,

    It is bad. I sent one of my (US) Indian co-workers to see if his family is in India ok. He said a big problem was apparently some major Indian actor died after taking vaccine. Millions won’t do it now.

  60. Juice Box says:

    BRT – We have a total of 517 staff (32%) in our district vaccinated even though the visiting nurse service has set aside vaccine and let them all cut the line since February 23rd. We have about 800 teachers and an additional 800 “other” staff that are full time for the 9,500 students.

    If you aren’t vaccinated by now and get sick and die who’s fault is it?

  61. grim says:

    NJEA is anti-vax, they attempt to disguise it under the umbrella of “personal choice”, however, they didn’t make a single peep against the teachers who protested (as teachers) against the attempted closing of the religious exemption loophole. NJEA is firmly against mandatory covid vaccination for teachers, and they are going as far to threaten it not being legal outside of collective bargaining.

    We’re in the middle of a pandemic and that’s the mindset, go figure.

    Wayne prioritized teachers as well, in fact the town has their own vaccination center (unlike many other towns), and the word on the street was that the showing was abysmal.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Did you understand what Buffett was saying in the quote I shared with you?

    He’s was referencing a brutal truth he learned from putting too much effort towards a business that was not worth the effort. Why do you put yourself through this? Do you think you bring no value, that no other industry will find value in what skills you bring to the table? They will. Don’t waste time on a job that is not worth the effort. Too many people do, and then cry about it.

    Bystander says:
    April 26, 2021 at 9:28 am
    Too bad that area school districts did not hire Indian teachers for $100/day, no benefits to teach American kids over Zoom. Seriously, they would have been substantial improvement over Blumpkin-quality hacks. We would all get huge tax decrease and I could then preach to millions of teachers about just re-inventing themselves in their 40s.

    Anyone other than delusional Blumpkin denying that major inflation is here? I thought not.

  63. leftwing says:

    “Speaking of schools, if you total the amount of cases in our elementary schools, one of our schools has had a grand total of 7 cases since September. And they were all contracted out of school. That’s less than 1 per month.”

    I think our local district had more cases of pertussis alone last academic year…..school continued uninterrupted, parents were notified so those with vulnerable parties in their households could act accordingly.

    Worth repeating…the social contract made for these abhorrent restrictions was to “flatten the curve” to avoid overwhelming the number of available hospital ICU beds in order to manage the death rate.

    The explicit goal of the lockdowns was to manage the death rate, and specifically not to eradicate the virus.

    The latter is a fool’s errand…if you are on this side of the ground you have three – and only three – options regarding this virus long term. Vaccinate, contract, or live in permanent quarantine. That’s it.

    Somewhere along the way the goals were conflated. No one I can find thought they were agreeing – nor would they have agreed – in March 2020 to lock down the entire population until the death rate goes to zero or the virus is eradicated from the population.

    Cruise lines want to sail. Customers want to sail. Both agree only vaccinated parties will be aboard. CDC replies to their request “sorry we are too busy to evaluate your request, stay in port”. Criminal.

    Withdraw your consent to be governed by these fools.

  64. grim says:

    regarding india – if they are reporting 200-300k a day, the real number has got to be closer to a million.

  65. BRT says:

    Every teacher I work with that is in my social circle is now vaccinated. And if they aren’t, it’s their own fault. Our super organized a vaccination last month for anyone that wanted it. At this point, our schools should be open to 100% of the population. I’m still in favor of not doing lunch (we end up losing an hour a day through 12:30 dismissal with lunch at home). I’d be in support of full school, with lunch and 100% of the students come Sept.

    Grim, the NJEA has realized that keeping their teachers home gives them enormous leverage for bargaining with respect to pension issues. They are going to milk it as long as they can. It’s not surprising that it’s all the abbot districts that refused to open the entire year, even though, the reality is, given the choice, barely anyone would go to school anyway.

    If you look at a town like Ewing, only 94 students in their high school opted for in person. That’s like 1 or 2 kids present in class. This is silly.

  66. Juice Box says:

    Studies in some cities in India showed seroprevalence about 50% of the adult population meaning many many mild or asymptomatic cases of Covid-19. However studies are now showing that those people may be getting re-infected.

    How do you quickly vaccinate a Billion people? Only 10% of their population has had the shot.

  67. leftwing says:

    “At this point, our schools should be open to 100% of the population.”

    Guys, we’re all older on here, how many times in our careers/lives have we seen this? Simple, basic, run out the clock strategy….if they could make it to some date full return would be off the table. PPP, HVAC, unvaccinated teachers….tap the brakes enough and the game is called until September 2021.

  68. Phoenix says:

    “The proportion of female teachers decreases as the level of education increases: women make up 97 % of teachers at pre-primary level, 83 % at primary, 69 % at lower-secondary, 60 % at upper-secondary, and only 43 % at tertiary levels.”

    Just some numbers.

  69. leftwing says:

    “[Ind1an] Death toll could skyrocket. Some say it’s already five times or more than what is being reported.”

    Wild overhead video clips of fields of funeral pyres….

  70. Hold my beer says:

    “3b says:
    April 26, 2021 at 9:05 am
    Why do we seem to have so many Karen’s these days?”

    So Phoenix can have a larger dating pool.

  71. Phoenix says:

    Don’t worry. TATA will still crank enough out.

  72. Phoenix says:

    HMB,

    It’s a mistake you only make once.

    Hahaha.

  73. BRT says:

    Guys, we’re all older on here, how many times in our careers/lives have we seen this? Simple, basic, run out the clock strategy….if they could make it to some date full return would be off the table. PPP, HVAC, unvaccinated teachers….tap the brakes enough and the game is called until September 2021.

    The only reason my local district is at school is because me and three other teachers in our town spoke up at board meetings to put pressure on the board. Our super’s strategy in Lawrence was run out the clock from day 1. He cancelled opening in Sept. Never gave a plan. I filed an OPRA request on what he sent to the state and let him know that I plan to speak at the board meeting about his dates. So, he finally caved on submitting to “phased opening” around thanksgiving. I called him out at the board meeting that he planned to open when cases would be skyrocketing and would soon close thereafter. I only realized how effective I was because I’ve had 4 people tell me at the little league field the past two weeks that I and another teacher was the one that swayed their opinion. And, I don’t even know these people but they recognized me. I can only imagine there’s about a hundred more that were in the same boat. They just needed someone on the ground level actually in school to validate their opinion and then they recognized it was ok. Once parental pressure set in, the gutless super caved and reopened in Jan.

    But yes, the strategy is always run out the clock. When Trenton announced months ago, they might return by May…what’s the point? When Biden said, he wanted the kids back by his 100 days in office, what’s the point? You get them 5 days of school before summer?

  74. Phoenix says:

    “Why do we seem to have so many Karen’s these days?”

    Someone needs to do an official study. Cause it’s really out of control.

  75. Phoenix says:

    “Guys, we’re all older on here, how many times in our careers/lives have we seen this? Simple, basic, run out the clock strategy.”

    See it in my field too. Works well.

    Dump the work/disaster on the next guy.

  76. Phoenix says:

    BRT,

    Now is your chance to run for mayor.

    https://youtu.be/zj0J-Uk5Iw4?t=37

  77. 3b says:

    Essex: Then the next question is why so many unhappy women?

  78. ExEssex says:

    Pension overhang. That’s a term worth knowing.
    Teaching in New Jersey public schools is a rich venture after 30 years.
    Those checks won’t cash themselves.

  79. 3b says:

    Bystander: We need school choice, and we may get it after this behavior by the teachers unions.

  80. ExEssex says:

    10:33 most chicks mature faster than guys. We tend to stay twelve forever.
    After a while they fold their hand and close up shop while the guy looks to greener pastures. Cougars are a desperate lot.

  81. Bystander says:

    His quote is meaningless drivel, like your postings. I don’t hold these people is such high esteem. They are billionaires – out of touch, egomaniacs who will preach down the American masses. If thegovt did not blown up 20T in debt the last 12 years then “Warren” and “Cathie” out of touch old f%rts, instead of svengalis.

  82. Phoenix says:

    Some humor, Karen style. The Chevy stuff is funny too. It’s our “stay 12 forever” Essex.

    Better than being a grouchy old nag.

    https://youtu.be/vB99lPAYi8A

  83. Libturd says:

    Left,

    I agree it is time to start relaxing the mask rules, where and when it makes sense. At the two pro hockey games I attended, it was definitely safe enough to remove your masks, at least once seated. On the concourse, not so much. I think at this point, people need to decide what is safe enough. Personally, I wish they would start doing vaccinate only flights or vaccinated only movies or restaurants, if for no better reason than to encourage the stupid to get their shots. And schools should be open, with masks. No eating together.

  84. 3b says:

    Bystander: It’s amazing the guy who has zero corporate experience is the expert and tells those of us who have spent our careers in corporate America that we don’t know what we are talking about. I should be used to it by now, but it still boggles my mind.

  85. BRT says:

    Now is your chance to run for mayor.

    lol, yeah right. They’ll dig up my posts at njrereport and declare me an asian white supremacist.

  86. Libturd says:

    In some positive news. Older son has a 4.25 and still maintains high honor roll through the end of 3rd quarter of tenth grade. Has not gotten below an A- for a final grade in his short life. Never a tutor or a Kumon or a pushy parent. He just gets it! Glen Ridge is a competitive school too.

  87. Libturd, so stupid says:

    BRT,

    You’re Asian? Everyone, let’s kick his ass!

  88. EzEssex says:

    10:46 kudos!
    It’s now that i change my handle to EzEssex
    Why “ez” well that’s because ….

    https://youtu.be/mDxQJN_WKNE

  89. grim says:

    Personally, I wish they would start doing vaccinate only flights or vaccinated only movies or restaurants, if for no better reason than to encourage the stupid to get their shots. And schools should be open, with masks. No eating together.

    NJ legislators working on new legislation to make vaccine passports illegal, so good luck with this.

  90. Phoenix says:

    “Why are there so many Karens out there?”

    Because they know they can say whatever they want and no one is going to touch them, maybe possibly a woman, but almost never a man.

    A man says or does the wrong thing and he will be attacked by either gender, both, or a crowd. And if you are a man, you size up your competition if you are going to go that route.

    The Karen in the cop video was funny “As a woman, you made me feel unsafe.” Says she is going to pepper spray him. Texting and claiming to know the law.
    No one has ever told this one that she was wrong. She should be in politics.

  91. Phoenix says:

    Big deal. Can he book a 3 week vacation to Costa Rica for 10 bucks like his daddy? Ahh, he has some catching up to do.

    “In some positive news. Older son has a 4.25 and still maintains high honor roll through the end of 3rd quarter of tenth grade. Has not gotten below an A- for a final grade in his short life. Never a tutor or a Kumon or a pushy parent. He just gets it! Glen Ridge is a competitive school too.”

  92. Trick says:

    My wife and all her teacher friends are vaccinated. She currently has 7 kids in one of her class out for Covid/tracing. Have to be a idiot not to be vaccinated.

  93. ExEssex says:

    Everybody wants me to be
    What they want me to be
    I’m not happy when I try to fake it!
    No!

    Ooh, that’s why I’m easy
    I’m easy like Sunday morning
    That’s why I’m easy

  94. BRT says:

    I’m only half, but look hispanic. I get someone speaking spanish to me at least once a week. Also, everyone always thinks I work at whatever store I’m shopping at and asks me for help.

  95. EzEssex says:

    i look like a dime store Richard Gere only fatter….:)

  96. BRT says:

    Anecdotal, but when I had to get my daughter tested 3 friggin times to allow her back into school, they changed procedures. Instead of waiting out in the lot, you now sit in a room with all the people waiting for the test. Some were clearly under the weather. How much transmission occurs from stupid crap like that?

  97. Libturd says:

    “Big deal. Can he book a 3 week vacation to Costa Rica for 10 bucks like his daddy? Ahh, he has some catching up to do.”

    He’s getting there. If you saw him purchase and build his gaming rig with his own hard-earned money (yes, he works too), you would be equally impressed. Don’t know of too many kids who could have a $1200 processor, $800 graphics card (both used) and an SSD, sitting idly in their boxes for nearly a year, while waiting for a good deal on a power supply, motherboard, case and monitor. He did so well putting the rig together that he could have easily sold it for 50% more than he paid for it (a couple kids offered to buy it from him), but he didn’t want to wait another year for all of the amazing deals to build another one. He did all of this stuff completely on his own. He found Reddit on is own and gets email notifications of crazy hardware deals. How he balances his hockey, gaming, homework, school, working and volunteering is beyond me. For what it’s worth, I let him sleep for 12 hours every Saturday morning.

  98. Libturd says:

    “How much transmission occurs from stupid crap like that?”

    The amount of stupid I’ve seen is unparallelled. It’s truly mind boggling the stupid things I’ve seen people do related to their understanding of the Pandemic. How many people do you see wearing masks driving solo in a car? It’s outrageous. And what the heck is the attraction of eating out?

  99. Phoenix says:

    Great son you have there Lib.

  100. Libturd says:

    We are very lucky. He’s amazing with the D too.

  101. ezEssex says:

    Sounds like he found his niche, his stride, and then some. Nice to hear about happy and well-adjusted kids. You know they are out there. It is the toxic types that might garner the attention though, at least in a school setting. Schools loaded with nice kids are out there. Shame to see ‘entitlement’ run rampant. That seems to be our modern industrial disease.

  102. leftwing says:

    “I agree it is time to start relaxing the mask rules, where and when it makes sense.”

    Not sure we agree. I’m calling for the game over horn to sound. Everything re-opens. Masks optional.

    The explicit – not implied, not assumed – but the explicitly stated deal for these lockdowns was to manage hospital bed utilization to manage the death rate. Not prevent deaths, certainly not to prevent infections. But to keep enough hospital beds open to manage the death rate.

    We have passed beyond that point. There is no stress in the system outside of a few counties in MI and a small patch of land on the PA/MD border.

    If businesses want to institute their own mandates, fine, it’s a free society. Pru Center wants to do it, their prerogative. If you don’t like it don’t go.

    Local restaurant decides at 100% of capacity to not have a mandate, fine, it’s a free society. If you don’t like it don’t go.

    If localities are individual challenged, let them mandate. On a county level, only when objective measures are met. Get this preening power hungry gubernatorial fools out of the equation.

    There is no more national ‘crisis’. It’s over, and so should be these lockdown and mandatory mask charades.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours

  103. grim says:

    COVID strategy? We closed playgrounds and left Walmart open, that’s all you need to know. We all knew it was completely backwards, now the CDC and scientists are confirming that to be the case. Surface transmission? Almost nonexistent, especially outdoors in the sun. I want to laugh at towns who patrolled parks and common walking areas to tape up benches, or worse, tell non-residents that they couldn’t walk around Packanack Lake. Turns out if we had invested even half of what we spent on surface transmission on masks instead, the outcome might have been far different. Indoor transmission accounted for a huge proportion of infection, and the 6 foot limit is almost entirely irrelevant, as its time dependent, and not distance dependent.

  104. Bystander says:

    3b, 10:33,

    It is impossible to broadbrush women but I got divorced once, my sister is on her way after 18 long years of non-sense and my closest family friend got hers finalized in October after 2 year battle. If you want the theme, I think we are at a very weird time (Gen X really, 40+) where women still need to look up to her man as breadwinner. They certainly don’t want to be breadwinner and main caretaker. Both the case for my sis and friend as their husbands had no stability on jobs/income since 2008 crash. In my case, back in 2008, my ex was being paid 75k in HR at dark pool trading firm but they started provided bonuses twice a year (100% possible each time). She was making 200K and she got sucked into career and forthcoming IPO. She moved to London, not wanting kids at 30 and marriage ended. She has weird Italian guido s&t in her head about men which really came out when she outpaced me financially. Many want their independence and career but are torn on motherhood. They feel guilty for leaving them but get soft and frustrated when you have to actually deal with kid issues which can’t be outsourced to a nanny. I feel fortunate that my wife has zero conflict. Her kids are it. I handle the rest. It is perfect? No, the lack of dual income is problem but we both have no big needs in life, not competing with Jones, not looking for foreign cars and big mansions. Makes life easier. High expecations..too much stress.

  105. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m giving him valuable advice, and you are passing all over it. Why would you jump 7 foot poles when you could jump 1 ft poles for less effort and more money.

    Bystander is a business owner that won’t let go of his dying business. Keeps putting all this effort into something that is dying and won’t come close to rewarding his effort. Why not put this effort into something that can actually grow when effort is applied?

    Your position that you have to work in “corporate” to know is such bs, and your response shows. What do you think schools are now? You act like they are much different than corporate mindset…you are wrong. They try to suck the life out of anyone they can. It’s up to you to stick up for yourself as a public school teacher, or get run over by parents and administrators.

    You have this fairy tale vision that all administrators are nice to their teachers…far from the truth. Outright hostile some are. Every district is different, just like every company is different. Not every district treats their teachers badly, and not every company treats their workers badly. Some districts treat their employees badly, and some companies treat their employees badly.

    3b says:
    April 26, 2021 at 10:44 am
    Bystander: It’s amazing the guy who has zero corporate experience is the expert and tells those of us who have spent our careers in corporate America that we don’t know what we are talking about. I should be used to it by now, but it still boggles my mind.

  106. 3b says:

    Bystander: Interesting take on things. I can’t comment, as older and my wife and all my friends/ families spouses all were home when kids were young, we were the last that are able to do it on one income. I can say from my own kids it looks like the millennial couples are more of a team effort, and realize you need two incomes, and not necessarily to live, but for the security in case one income is lost temporarily. It’s ironic in some respects that feminism seems to have created a new set of issues at least for some people.

  107. EzEssex says:

    12:42 See? if you never make more than your wife there isn’t a problem.
    Had parity twice first when we met secondly during the dot coms. I haven’t picked up a check in twenty years.

    Gender roles aside though I think the GenX / later Boomer divorces are the “I don’t want to die with you” divorce. Marriages also have little tolerance for one partner or the other bringing “zero” to the effort. Big Turnoff. Or so I am told. :)

  108. Libturd says:

    “time dependent,”

    Yes. I always said time was a factor that the CDC and WHO was ignoring (not testing for).

    Leftwing, I am close to agreeing with you. Just want to see our hospitalization curve flatten just a little bit more. Heard yesterday from the nurse who talk care of the D when we were still in shock, post brain tumor removal surgery and staring at our three year old in the NICU who looked more like a Belushi than our toddler. She said the hospital is near capacity again, but the bigger problem is staffing. A lot of nurses quit by the fourth wave and the many that remain are past exhausted. I say do what we can to give them a break for the next three or four weeks until herd immunity start winning the war against the newer mutations. What’s another three weeks after 14 months. If they were to open restaurants up in NJ to 100% no mask. The numbers would definitely increase significantly. Let’s just start vaccinating the kids already and get this thing over with. I’m really hoping that that cohort will be the difference maker. Should have done them after the nursing homes.

  109. Bystander says:

    My advice for you is to jump on a 1 foot pole.

  110. Libturd says:

    Gator used to kick my ass salary wise. Then the magazine business died overnight as D got sick. Now I’m the breadwinner. But nothing really changed than the our ability to make fun of each other. She started it, but I am now relentless. I mean, I really shouldn’t expect a vegetarian to bring home the bacon, now should I?

  111. grim says:

    Let’s just start vaccinating the kids already and get this thing over with. I’m really hoping that that cohort will be the difference maker. Should have done them after the nursing homes.

    Line the kids up already. Vaccination rate has been falling for 4 weeks now in NJ.

  112. Bystander says:

    Right priorities, Lib. Now, I have to imagine a certain someone’s wife, who is the major breadwinner, has run the calculation is her head. A 50% payout to get rid of the umambitious twit, well, that sucks for her.

  113. EzEssex says:

    Mmmmmm bacon 🥓

  114. Juice Box says:

    Not over yet folks..but we should be in the home stretch.

    Covid numbers

    1,797 hospitalizations in NJ today
    🔹398 individuals in critical care
    🔹62% of critical care patients are on ventilators

    Roughly 23,000 hospital beds across 71 hospitals in New Jersey.

  115. Juice Box says:

    re: “Line the kids up already”.

    Yeah sure except they don’t need it, and it’s not approved as the trials for the under 12 have just begun. Also as it is right now there is only one child hospitalized in the entire state for Covid.

    As far as trials Pfizer did phase three already 12-17 last July. That should be okayed soon.

    For the 6 months to 11 years olds, trials Phase 1,2,3 started last month i the US and Europe. Might be another year before that is complete.

  116. Brt says:

    Lib, we’d have another 3 to 4 weeks breathing room. For businesses if Murphy actually used common sense and opened up in summer last year.

  117. grim says:

    16-17 have approvals.

    16-21 should be clogging the registration systems right now, only they are not.

  118. A Home Buyer says:


    16-21 should be clogging the registration systems right now, only they are not.

    My spouse and I recently had our second COVID shot. Moderna.

    It was brutal from the 8 hour mark to the 30 hour mark after the shot. Of the 5 younger people I know who also had the shot (3 in the quoted bracket) ALL had terrible symptoms.

    That’s my anecdote. 7 for 7 in the under 45 crown.

    Seeing a low turnout for the vaccine does not surprise me.

  119. ExEssex says:

    12:52
    “ You have this fairy tale vision that all administrators are nice to their teachers…far from the truth. Outright hostile some are. Every district is different, just like every company is different. Not every district treats their teachers badly, and not every company treats their workers badly. Some districts treat their employees badly, and some companies treat their employees badly. “

    Difference being Tenure. Bad management and fiefdoms are “what education is about” but the truth is as a tenured teacher you would have to
    Burn the school down to get the axe.

  120. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Get what thing over with? Covid? It’s not going away. It transmits and evolves too quickly.

    I’m totally against vaxing a kid. After seeing what covid does to a healthy kid, which is nothing, It doesn’t make sense.

  121. 3b says:

    Ex I would say you covered it there Sir. Tenured equals permanent employment, vs corporate America, where it’s employed at will.

  122. grim says:

    Nonsense.

    Vaccination has nothing to do with individual protection and everything to do with group protection. You vaccinate kids to protect the population, that’s the primary reason, not to protect the kids, though it’s a nice benefit.

    If we’re not going to vaccinate kids, what did we bother coming up with a vaccine for? It’s not going to be effective if we don’t vaccinate that massive percentage of the population. Might as well stop right here then.

  123. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    It makes sense for vulnerable people to get it, and get it, and get it, just like the flu shot. Healthy people not so much.

    Especially since it appears that the vaccinated are silent careers. The vaccine is doing nothing to eliminate covid.

  124. BRT says:

    Overtime, it would be much more effective to allow for children to build natural immunity to this over their course of their first 18 years in this world. You could make a case for vaccinations on kids just to reduce the spread as much as possible to argue for opening up. Long term, it would be silly to give the kids boosters every year. That being said, silly is our primary policy, so it will probably happen.

  125. JCer says:

    No point in vaccinating young children unless something changes. 15 or 16 year olds maybe but for the younger kids I’m not sure it makes sense until we really test and get all the data in. It’s hard to justify using EUA vaccines on children who are not at imminent risk, the J&J situation makes it clear we don’t know how it what the side effects are and if they prove severe it is unwarranted as most kids with COVID don’t even get sick.

    Someone keyed on something important, Coronavirus vaccines rarely remain effective. We have CCOV vaccines for dogs it’s far from 100% effective and the poultry industry loses a lot of money annually because of the avian coronavirus and they have a vaccine. The vaccine is just part of it, what we need are effective treatments, as the virus mutates there will be more and more “breakthrough” cases.

    It’s time to reopen, the cure cannot be worse than the disease. Human beings have experienced worse pandemics in our history but we have never purposely shut down like this. Productivity must continue and people need to eat, how many businesses can we kill?

  126. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    It may reduce spread but it doesn’t eliminate it. Look it up.

    It reduces symptoms. If your symptoms are non existent then what’s the point?

  127. JCer says:

    BRT if we arguing for nature, COVID doesn’t typically kill children or even the under 65 crowd and when it does they are people carrying a genetic mutation. Historically something like covid would have wiped out those with the mutation and overtime would be relegated to making the elderly die and it would likely get milder as time goes on, natural selection at work. Humans defy nature because of compassion. We’ve bungled this thus far, our policies have not worked as witnessed by similar rates regardless of a strict lock down or not.

  128. ExEssex says:

    3:04 don’t forget seniority. First in – first out.
    Huuuuge protection in times of downturn virtually
    Recession proof .

  129. ExEssex says:

    Meanwhile in corporate America you lose a job in a RIF you leave.
    Maybe you can interview for another job. Maybe.

  130. Libturd, actually surprised at this one. says:

    “Especially since it appears that the vaccinated are silent careers. The vaccine is doing nothing to eliminate covid.”

    This statement is truly political and wrong on every level. I would begin by dispelling the 10 or so fallacies, but judging by your willingness to make such an unintelligent statement, I will chose not to waste my time on deaf ears.

  131. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    There has not been a strict lockdown. At least not in the West, where we have no faith in our government and selfishness reigns supreme.

  132. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    No, you have a bias, that’s all. Probably think Murphy has done a good job.

    Take a look at this, surely you don’t think the one worker spreadit to all 22 directly? They we’re spreading it back and forth among the vaccinated.

    https://www.cleveland.com/coronavirus/2021/04/unvaccinated-worker-leads-to-kentucky-outbreak-new-variant-that-causes-severe-illness-found-in-texas-coronavirus-update-for-april-23-2021.html

  133. Libturd says:

    Once again. You are taking a one-off and generalizing it to the entire population. This is exactly what Trump did with his every lie and his army of ignorant morons took it hook line and sinker.

    I suppose we should no longer be using electricity since someone was once electrified?

  134. Libturd says:

    And no, I can’t stand Murphy and find him to be the worst governor our state has ever had. Quite frankly, I liked much of what the Fatman did, but he stopped caring about NJ the moment he thought he was presidential material.

  135. Grim says:

    If the vaccine doesn’t work to stop the spread, please explain Israel.

  136. Libturd says:

    For the GOAT with the hearing impairment.

    Looking at the case in the nursing home, which is behind a paywall, so you probably haven’t read it either but are most likely taking the bait of some conservative talk show host who is most likely a closeted gay or opiod addict. It was always known that variants might occur and boosters would be needed. If your ignorant, liar in chief actually convinced people that Covid was real and vaccines were needed, it’s possible these variant mutations might not have occurred. But who needs science when you’re MO is to lie about anything and everything and to write off any proof of these lies as “fake news.”

  137. Grim says:

    Mutations will fall dramatically as vaccination rate increases. This is basic math.

  138. Libturd says:

    Deaf ears Grim. You are wasting your time. As with the Pumpkin and anyone else who spouts complete nonsense. They will go on “ignore.” I’ve argued with drunks on the verge of alcohol poisoning who made more reasoned responses. There really is no reason to point out their errors for even the lowest IQed participant here should be able to figure it out for themselves, or have already contributed to Trump’s legal fund to defend the fraud fable, which apparently is going directly into the REAL fraudster’s pockets.

  139. Grim says:

    Flu shot effectiveness is barely 60% on a good year, and in many parts of the US les than a third of the population gets it.

    It’s not even remotely basis for comparison.

  140. leftwing says:

    Contract COVID.
    Get vaccinated.
    Hard quarantine yourself.

    Those are the three choices. Not mutually exclusive.

    Once the most vulnerable were vaccinated (65+ and those with serious co-morbidities) society should have re-opened and each individual could then have picked which one of the above best suited them at any given time.

    It’s fcuking insanity people are still discussing outdoor mask mandates and Biden is walking around the WH grounds alone with a one on.

  141. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Sure…whatever makes you feel better.

    Libturd says:
    April 26, 2021 at 4:37 pm
    Deaf ears Grim. You are wasting your time. As with the Pumpkin and anyone else who spouts complete nonsense

  142. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Source of position….hate for govt workers. Just admit you only care about yourself, that’s the only reason you liked the fat man. He bullied teachers and it made you feel good about yourself.

    Yet, you will sit here and act like you actually care about other human beings in your bashing of trump. Well, teachers are human beings, let go of the f’ing hate man.
    Libturd says:
    April 26, 2021 at 4:22 pm
    And no, I can’t stand Murphy and find him to be the worst governor our state has ever had. Quite frankly, I liked much of what the Fatman did, but he stopped caring about NJ the moment he thought he was presidential material.

  143. grim says:

    Vaccination isn’t personal choice.

    Vaccines are mandatory in New Jersey, there is no exemption for personal choice. COVID vaccines should be, and need to be, added to the list.

    Bunch of whiney pussies. The soldiers that defended America would be embarrassed they died for you.

  144. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s like 3b…he has total hate for teachers and the education system. Source? Are you that cheap that you have animosity towards teachers because education has cost on your pocket? So selfish… just own it.

    3b cries all day about how the younger generation has it bad and their jobs are garbage, but then he bashes construction unions and union govt jobs. So you feel bad for one group (pro jobs), and then in the same context you advocate against the only good middle class jobs left (union jobs). Get a life.

  145. 3b says:

    Joyce: That is my reminder. Thank you Joyce.

  146. Phoenix says:

    Left,
    He is senile.

    The end.

  147. 30 year realtor says:

    Spoke with friends in Israel. Everything is open. No covid restrictions. High vaccination rate except among the ultra religious and they are only in certain areas. Planning a month long vacation in Tel Aviv right now.

  148. 30 year realtor says:

    Can’t wait to walk around without a mask and live life as though it was before the pandemic. Tel Aviv has beautiful beaches!

  149. EzEssex says:

    Indeed. Tel Aviv is first rate. Mazel Tov.

  150. Juice Box says:

    News from Brazil. It’s fuc*ke*d, this per our cleaning lady. Covid spreading like crazy, no supplies for masks, not even material to make them. No hand sanitizer. Unless you have money for a private hospital you are fu*ck*ed. Cleaning lady’s sister left home to go food shopping waited in a long line and is now on a vent in a private hospital, young kids too. They are sending what they can from here to help. I am going to send some masks and supplies, hope it does not get stolen.

  151. Juice Box says:

    Studies so far say the mRNA vaccines are far superior to the Astra Zeneca or J&J vaccines which are made from a modified chimpanzee virus. We (the West) should dispense with this nonsense now of pauses and blood clot risk etc and make the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines for the entire world. Defense production act etc and use that as goodwill to go a long way.

    The Chinese are in the middle of stealing the mRNA technology to make their own vaccine if they don’t have it already. They will beat us to supplying the rest of the world unless we get going now. India for example is using Russia’s Sputnik 5 and some similar homegrown Covishield and Covaxin, but they don’t have nearly enough. Plans there are to only vaccinate about 250 million by July.

    Dispense with the trademarks and patents and lets get this done.

  152. CipollaSmhpolla says:

    We have to accept that science and technology will get us to a certain level. Higher level than that will require human cooperation above ideology, ethnicity, economics and pure selfish interest, which can be done.

    However, what cannot be done is dealing with the “Stupid” as defined by Carlo Cipolla, excerpt belows. Dealing with these people is the curse and downfall of humanity. And why it will be 10 yrs easily before everything settles down.

    –The second essay, “The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity” (“Le leggi fondamentali della stupidità umana”, 1976),[1][2][3] explores the controversial subject of stupidity. Stupid people are seen as a group, more powerful by far than major organizations such as the Mafia and the industrial complex, which without regulations, leaders or manifesto nonetheless manages to operate to great effect and with incredible coordination.

    These are Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:

    Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
    The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
    A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
    Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
    A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.

    Corollary: a stupid person is more dangerous than a pillager.

    As is evident from the third law, Cipolla identifies two factors to consider when exploring human behaviour:

    Benefits and losses that an individual causes to him or herself.
    Benefits and losses that an individual causes to others.

  153. Juice Box says:

    Israel BTW went all in on the Pfizer vaccine. Daily infections were just reported to be only 50 new cases yesterday and 7 day average is 140. This is more than proof we have cracked the code with mRNA technology.

    Cancer and other diseases could be a thing of the past.

  154. leftwing says:

    “Vaccination isn’t personal choice.”

    Sure as fcuk is if they don’t have any and it isn’t even approved.

    “Vaccines are mandatory in New Jersey, there is no exemption for personal choice. COVID vaccines should be, and need to be, added to the list.”

    One hundred percent personal opinion. Antibodies are antibodies, whether stimulated naturally or by viral vector/mRNA.

    Getting the COVID vaccine is very much a personal choice.

    Or if you intend to enforce COVID vaccination upon my kids I’ll let you know which of your activities that has a death rate of 0.000018 I intend to curtail……I’m sure casualties associated with hooch is many multiples of that….. :)

  155. JCer says:

    I’ve done both 1 and 2 on left’s list, I had covid and was vaccinated it felt pretty much the same except the vaccine effects lasted for 1-2 days instead of weeks and were milder. There would never have been a hard lockdown in the West, it was simply not on the table, the attempts at hard lockdown in Europe were futile at best. My point is all the restrictions were half measures and efficacy was close to nil, so we forced people to quasi-shutdown and live in a cocoon and it did literally nothing. The europeans did even worse France and Italy canceled skiing all that did was cause a lot of small businesses to lose their livelihoods and now they are doing a bailout. It’s not a good public policy, western democracies do not succeed like dictatorships.

    Good luck Grim, it’s not even an approved vaccine(yet). It’s not going to be mandatory nor should it be, the most we can do is mandate kids in school be vaccinated(once approved for children), even that I’d argue is unnecessary. Individuals have liberty and a choice, that is the intention of our constitution and broad vaccine mandates are totally unconstitutional, I’d argue even some of the vaccine passport concepts are as well. That being said businesses and government facilities could be restricted to only those who are vaccinated. Vaccination will not stop the mutations, only promote mutations that can defeat the existing antibodies and still propagate, at best it accelerates the evolution that would naturally occur as the entire population was infected with covid. Get vaccinated it beats getting the disease but it’s not magic we will be living with covid from here on out. I’m all for the official policy of don’t be stupid, I’d like to think you’ll either take precautions, get vaccinated or do both. As for me I have an immune response, if you want to be stupid in all likelihood it isn’t going to impact me.

  156. JCer says:

    Yes left both the AZ(90+%) and the Sputnik(92%) vaccine are VERY effective, even J&J is effective but is less so because it is single dose. Truth be told you get a stronger TCell response from the Adenovirus based vaccines and it is quite likely that the J&J,AZ, and Sputnik vaccines are more effective against the new variants than the mRNA vaccines.

    The only vaccines that are not very good are the Chinese ones, the disaster in Chile is really telling. Yes the adenovirus tech is a steppingstone and not the revolution that the mRNA technology is but it’s efficacy is not a question.

  157. leftwing says:

    JCer, agree. Did a bunch of research into mRNA, went in pretty hard on MRNA stock around 120s after trading in and out of it a bunch….wish I took more, on my “buy on retracement” list.

    Nothing is ever certain, especially moonshots, but of the very few stocks that become AMZN-like MRNA certainly has that potential….some patent issues kicking around but worth the shot. Odds are against it happening, but doubt I’ll get hurt.

  158. Bystander says:

    India hiring is off charts folks. People are quitting at insane clip. Getting 100% salary increase in extreme situations. 50% -60% is becoming norm. We have two Pune folks quit today and now zero hope that our 16 outstanding offers will hold. They will shop and get several offers. My company is behind and dumbfounded. They won’t adjust, clueless right now. We have the most hiring in our group by far and my boss has to escalate salary situation immediately as we will have no dev team left in a few months. This is no BS. Indians tell each other their salaries so it spreads like wildfire when people know they can get more. How’s the US doing? Oh right…f-in wasteland on wages. There is your Fed money printing people…going to India and elswhere.

    As promised, providing a list of roles that India outsourcers provide on H1B to US. If your job title falls within these boundaries then here is what I would expect salary wise. Disclaimer: I know nothing. I am stupid person operating like a dead business owner. I should be jumping various sized poles for a living.

    This is what they charge so expect vendor to take 40% cut. You might be able negotiate some but these are guides. There is no difference in US cities – could be NYC or Raleigh etc.

    Recent grad, 1-3 yrs experience. Your H1B competition will accept 40-45/hr.
    3-5 years will get 50-55/hr
    6-8 years will get 55-60 hr
    8-10 years is highest level at 60-65/hr.

    There is nothing after 8 – 10 years. You are maxed.

    There you go. Good luck.

  159. Bystander says:

    Sorry something tripped filter. Here is list

    Service Mgt or Delivery Specia*ist
    Software Eng
    Support Analyst
    Sys Admin
    System Eng
    Test Eng
    Business Analyst
    Infra Solution Design Spe*ialist
    IT Architect
    IT Expert
    IT Infra Arch*tect
    IT Infra Expert
    IT Risk & Control Spe*alist
    IT Security Specia*ist
    Program or Project Manager
    Project Officer

  160. Bystander says:

    Get vaccinated it beats getting the disease but it’s not magic we will be living with covid from here on out. ”

    Glad my random shtupping days are over. Imagine trying to get some in NYC going forward. “Show me card”..what a buzzkill. These millenials sure got the shaft.

  161. chicagofinance says:

    Not sure who is the big SCTV fan, but dedicated to you:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QFDsUgjqIo

  162. BRT says:

    I got tested after spending 6 hours in a car with covid positive people. Negative. Vaccine or natural immunity worked. It doesn’t matter if it prevents positivity or reduces severity, the emergency should be over. It’s now being transformed into the common cold.

  163. Walking says:

    Bystander if it makes you feel better doc salary for er hospital in bergen county pays $92 an hour , you bring your own malpractice and get paid a 1099. Malpractice alone will take $20 to $25 of that so you are looking at $72 an hour with no benefits and a larger tax bite.

  164. Grim says:

    Sanofi will manufacture Moderna vax in Ridgefield Park NJ – 200 million doses estimated

  165. Walking says:

    That’s great to hear they are keeping the ridge park plant open. Thought for sure they would have consolidated to swift water by now.

  166. The Great Pumpkin says:

    After what’s going on in India, I hope people realize this isn’t a joke. They won’t…ignorance is bliss.

    India thought they had this under control, became complacent, and then TKO.

  167. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Are we still comparing it to the flu now after witnessing India and Brazil?

  168. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Poor countries begging for a vaccine: Americans turning them down. Beautiful, don’t you think?

  169. Chicago says:

    I didn’t know that grim added a blacklist link to the site. When?

  170. JCer says:

    Bystander, its WFH. I know we all but stopped hiring US based consultants. If the person is 100% remote why pay 4x higher rates? Big bump in demand for low cost offshore folks. It will bite us in the butt, the person who mentioned the COVID outbreak isn’t wrong, we are seeing lots of folks go out on medical leave as they or their families get sick.

    The quality of the personnel leaves something to be desired, there is a lot of willingness but technical skill is sorely lacking. We very deliberately did not staff in India for key areas of our build because of the perceived quality issues.

  171. Phoenix says:

    Well, no racism here. This video is beyond repulsive. But experiencing what I have it doesn’t surprise me one bit.

    Pony up, taxpayers. You get to eat this one, and it’s going to be a nice payout.

    To protect and serve…..

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9513533/Colorado-cops-filmed-laughing-bodycam-video-arrest-elderly-woman-dementia.html

  172. Phoenix says:

    “I know we all but stopped hiring US based consultants. If the person is 100% remote why pay 4x higher rates?”

    Isn’t that why we hoist an American flag up every morning, why we salute it at sporting events, or why kids recite it every morning in school?

    Explain to me why we should support a country that does not seem to support it’s workers-that is run by a government that is too flaccid to stand up to corporate criminals?

    It’s not going to end well.

  173. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not rich? Good news: You’re probably getting a tax cut.
    President Joe Biden is preparing to unveil another tranche of tax increase proposals, including hiking the top marginal income tax rate and upping levies on capital gains.

    Everyone knows that Democrats want to raise taxes on the rich, but what hasn’t gotten nearly as much notice is how much they’ve cut them for most everyone else — substantially more than Republicans did in the first year of their 2017 tax overhaul.

    https://apple.news/AE2oQR5B_T9C0bpXZO706lQ

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