When will the jobs come back?

From NJ101.5:

NJ adds 13,600 jobs in May – but still down 314,000 in pandemic

New Jersey’s economy added 13,600 jobs in May but still hasn’t recovered 44% of the jobs that disappeared last March and April when pandemic-related shutdowns were imposed.

Last March and April, the number of jobs in New Jersey plunged by 717,200, nearly 17%. It has gained jobs every month since then except one, adding 403,000 positions in total – but still remaining 314,200 short of the pre-pandemic peak.

At the rate jobs have been added so far in 2021, it would take until the end of 2023 for the economy to recover its pandemic losses.

But next month’s report could look different. The state Department of Labor and Workforce Development noted that the survey took place before pandemic-related restrictions on New Jersey businesses were lifted in late May, so any impact on jobs would become evident next report, issued July 15.

Leisure and hospitality businesses added 6,200 jobs, followed by 3,000 more trade, transportation and utilities jobs and 2,500 more jobs in education and health services. Seven of nine sectors gained jobs, but losses were recorded in construction of 2,200 and financial activities of 400.

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104 Responses to When will the jobs come back?

  1. dentss dennigan says:

    Fost

  2. dentss dennigan says:

    OK ..foist

  3. grim says:

    From the Press of Atlantic City:

    Pandemic worse than 2007-09 recession for South Jersey economy, Stockton report finds

    The COVID-19 pandemic was far more damaging to the leisure and hospitality sector than the 2007-09 recession, according to a report released Thursday by the William J. Hughes Center for Public Policy at Stockton University.

    The greater Atlantic City metropolitan area had the third largest employment decline in the nation in 2020, at almost 16%.

    However, early signs point to positive rebound, according to the report.

    “A key question that will loom over the regional economy as the national and regional recoveries play out over the remainder of 2021 and into 2022 is whether Atlantic City casino industry managers elect to return their physical properties’ personnel levels to pre-pandemic benchmarks or redirect resources to higher profit margin revenue streams which require far fewer brick and mortar workers,” said Stockton associate professor of economics Oliver Cooke, editor of the South Jersey Economic Report.

    The regional economy’s near-term trajectory will hinge on the casino industry’s rebound for the rest of 2021, according to the report.

    “Should the national recovery continue to gather steam over the remainder of 2021, it would be especially welcome news for the southern New Jersey regional economy,” Cooke said.

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  5. leftwing says:

    OK…Faust

  6. 3b says:

    Fab: Where did I mention Obama. Always the same when having a discussion with you.

  7. SmallGovConservative says:

    I know that I give SlowJoe a hard time, but the guy’s still got it when it comes to political corruption — literally no one has done it better for longer. And just when you thought he’d done it all — kickbacks, no-show jobs, selling access — he comes up with a shtick that’s pure corruption genius! This time, just four months after becoming president, his crackhead kid all of a sudden becomes an accomplished artist who already has dealer representation, and who’s ‘artworks’ are expected to fetch up to $500,000. And best of all, all sales will remain confidential because you know — it’s the art world. Gold, pure gold.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/hunter-biden-art-scam-disclose-buyers-jason-chaffetz

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Commodity slaughter today. Just across the board… Grains really crushed… I think that the commodity declines aren’t over and those who doubted Powell are already nervous about their stance.

    https://twitter.com/jimcramer/status/1405692640306290688?s=21

    Hey Jim: Cathie Wood predicted this almost to the hour of the commodity crash and also within about $1 of Oil’s top. These were all Macro Views. I think you should should put your differences behind you and be more kind to her views. She 100% prepared us for a dip in February.

    If about $70 was the top for Oil as she said there have been lower highs for a decade, she’d go 10/10 in the commodity cycle. Oil is a Fool’s Errand to pick and people can get it wrong for months, years,decades. It was a really big call and she was on an island as a lone voice.

  9. Juice Box says:

    Example of Crypto returning to it’s intrinsic value of ZERO.

    Mark Cuban took a bath too.

    https://fortune.com/2021/06/17/crypto-titan-token-crash-mark-cuban/

  10. Fast Eddie says:

    SmallGovConservative,

    I understand Hunter’s latest masterpiece is called “Influence.”

  11. Bystander says:

    As opposed to Ivanka’s masterpiece “快速商标” aka Fast Trademark (subtitled I have Daddy’s marks on me)

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice, this isn’t like the late 90’s or early 2000’s boiler room forums. It’s different. Much smarter retail traders on avg.

    “It Isn’t Just AMC. Retail Traders Increase Pull on the Stock Market.
    Data shows amateur investors have been upending everything from trading volume to large investors’ bets”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/it-isnt-just-amc-retail-traders-increase-pull-on-the-stock-market-11624008602

  13. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I don’t know why they keep building in places that clearly can’t handle it. Keep building up in areas like Texas and the west. This just furthers my belief that the northeast is the optimum location to be.

    “West Risks Blackouts as Drought Reduces Hydroelectric Power
    Heat waves across the West are already straining electricity supplies, as severe drought crimps hydroelectric power generation”

    https://apple.news/AK6p9BKLJTpewkQYIIfepIA

  14. Hold my beer says:

    Not everyone can be blessed to live on a highway in Wayne

  15. Juice Box says:

    From the article.. pump and dump….no different in any sense than the forums of old days on BBS, AOL, Yahoo boards etc the late retail entrants who actually buy the stock are the ones busted out, plenty of sob stories of bag holders on that forum, people are pumping these MEME stocks to the moon then it crashes in a matter of hours as the early entrants make their money on the options. Today is the witching hour of options expiration. Take a look a the comments they will close out their calls and sell them instead of buying the stock at the strike price and holding it, meanwhile pumping everyone else to buy the stock and hold it to the moon.

    “individual investors tend to pile into trades together—either for individual stocks or broad sector themes—and strike quickly to drive the price up in a matter of hours or days. Almost just as quickly, data shows, individual investors pull out of those trades, moving on to the next.”

    I was watching a video of one of their boiler room “analysts” talk about AMC this week, pumping away insane prices on no company news. All other MEME Stocks have pulled back this week. AMC is the only one left standing right now at options expiration. Right where the pumpers want it to be, as they are trading call options and not buying the stock, meanwhile they pump everyone else to buy the stock.

  16. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    The stock market itself is a pump and dump. It continuously switches from undervalued to overvalued in an endless game to get in before the coming herd and then sell into it. Not an investment out there that doesn’t play this game.

    Pancake in a can taught me invaluable lessons about how a market works. Priceless.

  17. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not everyone can be blessed to live in a desert in Texas.

    Hold my beer says:
    June 18, 2021 at 9:32 am
    Not everyone can be blessed to live on a highway in Wayne

  18. 3b says:

    Feds Bullard says inflation deeper then originally thought, may require rate rise next year. Markets don’t like it.

  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Any questions?

    “Currently, 𝟱𝟮.𝟵% of Americans have received at least 1 dose of the COVID vaccine.

    States with highest %
    • Vermont: 72.6%
    • Massachusetts: 68.7%
    • Hawaii: 68.6%

    States with lowest %
    • Mississippi: 35.1%
    • Alabama: 37.2%
    • Louisiana: 37.1%”

  20. Bystander says:

    3b,

    I went to Shoprite last night for first time in a week. I always go end of night towards closing time. Price tags were removed all over the store. I get usually get standard items there – seltzer, fudge pops for kids etc. Fudge pops were 10% higher and seltzer was a whopping 88c for generic 32oz bottle. It was 69c last week but I usually wait for sale at 40c – 50c. Not being nitpicky here but Fed has unleashed the beast. This is going to get ugly for alot of people. Dangerous game of chicken being player between Fed and employee wages. Remove support and poor will get f-ed. Employee shortgages only for summer jobs. You may get paid $25/hr to wash dishes now but they will fire your @ss for cheaper worker after summer rush is over. Unsustainable.

  21. Anon says:

    I’d support a progressive tax structure inversely correlated to the duration that one holds a stock or derivative.

    In other words, if the duration of ones ownership of a stock can be measured in milliseconds, then they should pay a significantly higher tax rate.

    If someone holds a stock for less than one financial quarter, they aren’t investing in the company. They are speculating. (And I don’t buy the “they are providing price efficiency and market liquidity” BS.)

  22. 3b says:

    Bystanders: Prices up on lots of products in my Shop Rite. Chop meat over 5.00
    A pound, chicken up too, as well as fruits and vegetables. Dairy products up too. We can spend 100.00 bucks there easy and have little to show for it. Fed is destroying the economy with their low interest rates/asset buying madness. Perhaps they are starting to realize that.

  23. Ez says:

    You have no “choice” you have owners:

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdhEvMXL/

  24. Phoenix says:

    “Fudge pops were 10% higher”

    Maybe this will be a good thing, with Americans eating less, and going outside more.

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, it’s only “transitory.” A reflection of suppliers and manufacturers underestimating how quick this economic rebound would be. It won’t last in the long term.

    “You may get paid $25/hr to wash dishes now but they will fire your @ss for cheaper worker after summer rush is over. Unsustainable.”

  26. Juice Box says:

    “Maybe this will be a good thing” – Not if you live in the developing world, they don’t live off of fudge pudding pops.

    I explained this months ago, the effects of the FED inflation are never felt here first. Food inflation will kill the developing world first. United Nations’ food price index is up 40% YoY..so much for your pudding pops of you cannot afford basic staples to survive..

    Vegetable oils, sugar and cereals, corn you name it all way up because global credit is denominated in dollars. The inflation happening here in the USA is the world’s most important economic variable and has a greater distortion of prices elsewhere they need to buy and sell foreign good in dollars like food staples.

    But hey Grandma and Grandpa just sold their 1940 POS cape or the 1970s split level for top dollar and are now living large on the intercostal in Florida!!!

  27. 3b says:

    Juice: Very good article on the myth of transitory inflation a couple of months ago in the WSJ. I am too lazy to look and post it.

  28. Fast Eddie says:

    Re: Food prices – The masses are too bloated anyway. They’ll survive on less, no need to buy another bag of jalapeno and cheddar potato chips and two gallons of confetti cookie crunch ice cream.

  29. Phoenix says:

    “Barely a week into office, President Biden made a promise that signaled a sharp break from his predecessor: No member of his family would be involved in government.

    But that vow did not extend to his senior staff and their relatives. In the first few months of Biden’s presidency, at least five children of his top aides have secured coveted jobs in the new administration. They include two sons and a daughter of the White House counselor, the daughter of a deputy White House chief of staff and the daughter of the director of presidential personnel.”

  30. Bystander says:

    Juice,

    Many in the world are getting a fudge pop up the chute right now. I don’t doubt it. It will be downright scary over next 6 months . Below sums it up nicely. I was thinking same thing. Fed’s asset bubble basically helped alot of boomers who had a 5 year retirement plan move it to one year. They are quitting in droves, buying out FL and Vegas retirement homes and passing buck onto the young. I would expect labor market to be in chaos at every level with millions leaving basically overnight. But, I am not seeing any desperate demand which is odd. Not seeing any discussion on wage increases in my bank at al,l nor any loosening of purse strings in our failed hiring and constant turnover. We still have ‘no match’ policy..you quit then goodbye. These are the strangest time indeed. I don’t get where world is headed but it is not good.

    “But hey Grandma and Grandpa just sold their 1940 POS cape or the 1970s split level for top dollar and are now living large on the intercostal in Florida!!!”

  31. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Both parties are corrupt, optics might be different , but nevertheless corrupt.

  32. notapumpsupporter says:

    We should change this blog from njrereport to njcovidvaccinereport.. because all the posts are about the boring vaccine tracking..

  33. 3b says:

    No need to talk about real estate it only goes up ,and will continue to go up. 600k for a POS cape or split with 12k in taxes is a bargain. Millennials have scads of cash, and NJ is the number one state to live in.

  34. Fast Eddie says:

    No need to talk about real estate it only goes up…

    I want seven figures for my house. It’s warranted because I’m prestigious.

  35. 3b says:

    Fast: Don’t give it away!!

  36. Fast Eddie says:

    3b,

    The more the house smells like 30 years worth of Chesterfields and cabbage boiled in Rheingold beer, the higher the price goes. I’ll never forget, when looking at open houses around the peak in 2008 or so, my kid says, in earshot of everyone, including the realtor, “Can we leave, the smell is making me sick.” This was the glorious days of the $679,000 shit hole tour. I’ve finally learned how to price a house: If the asking price doesn’t literally make you feel embarrassed, you underpriced the joint.

  37. 3b says:

    Fast: And not painted since Nixon was President! And Harvest good and avocado appliances are classi!

  38. crushednjmillenial says:

    If the virus was made in a lab, will we look at the news coverage and government communication regarding the zoonotoic theory as another iraq wmd?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6m49HAfRmk&list=PLR1VVi2S5xz-WuW_wsFsCn61vg8CgrL1E&index=5

  39. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just quoted $36 for an Uber X from the NYSE to the West Village!! Pure insanity @uber

    https://twitter.com/scottwapnercnbc/status/1405939608270082054?s=21

  40. JCer says:

    Ed inflation will do nothing but worsen waistlines. I’ve noticed the cheapest cr@p is the stuff that’s the worst for you. The poor will just substitute carbs for fresh healthy food, that is why the poor tend to be the fattest, quality food is expensive or requires time and effort to make. Inflation in staples usually means the worlds poorest starve more than they already are. Inflation in food is a bad sign.

    There is a house by me that someone bought last spring, I think they paid almost 600k for a terrible house that I’m pretty sure had a roof leak, mold and was partially gutted. I’ve seen the poor b@stard who bought it in his Land Rover checking on the construction it’s been a year and I can only imagine they are finding more and more things wrong. Really a truly terrible 1960’s house ugly as can be with most of it’s original fittings on a bad lot, with bad landscaping that prior to the pandemic had been listed at 500k for months. The house next to mine was a rheingold special, my friend and his wife looked at it with us before we bought our house and they walked in and turned around and walked out telling the realtor it smells like something died in there. Little did we know the owners of the house were a friend of a friend of my father in law, so it all made perfect sense. You would think if you were trying to sell your house you’d try to do something about the smell or the fact that it looks like a scene out of horders.

  41. Fast Eddie says:

    JCer,

    Agree with the food issue.. think cup o’ soups, macaroni and cheese boxes, spam, etc. I feel like this is just the beginning and will get worse over the next few years. They need to stop printing money and giving it away. People need to go to work.

    As for the house stuff, no matter how well you comb through a house or follow an inspector around, something will invariably pop up that went unnoticed. When I bought my current house, the roof was toward the end of its life cycle but we were assured that it there was no leaks. It was in the sellers disclosure, no leaks that they’re aware of. Hmm. Sure enough, after a two day period of steady rain, there was some leaking around an attic area window. I knew I needed to replace the roof anyway but this pushed the project forward.

    Another thing… the pool. I’ve had above ground pools and inground pools in the past but both had liners. The one I have now is epoxy over fiberglass. That’s fine, they look great, feel great but no one told me that every 8 to 10 years, depending on pool chemistry and sun, the epoxy needs to be sanded and recoated. I learned a lot about epoxy these last number of months and I also learned that it’s near impossible to find a contractor who does this type of work. What happens is that the epoxy will begin to “chalk” and rub off. If its bad enough, the pool will actually get cloudy. I’m not at that point yet. I found an industrial painter and I’m waiting for him to schedule it.

    Along with the pool needing to be refinished is the age of the pool filter (specifically the motor) and the electrical panel and breakers by the pool. I knew going in what I faced there, the only thing I was unaware of was the epoxy finish. That means, to do this job, the pool needs to be drained and bone dry. You also need to open the relief valve in the deep part, if possible or simply hope hydrostatic pressure doesn’t make the pool pop out of the ground. Fun times!! Quite the challenge. :) My point is that no matter what you think you have covered in the house, something will always pop up.

  42. Bystander says:

    “that they’re aware of”

    The key bit always, Ed..so many lies in this area. I had one house where guy disclosed no asbestos. He lived in house 25 years and my inspector spends 10m in house, flashes a light at crawl space and shows me rows of pipes with asbestos falling off. Think the guy never noticed in 25 years..bs.

  43. Juice Box says:

    -Eddie – epoxy over fiberglass – that is like owning a boat!

    My neighbor has concrete pool, he just spent a fortune about $25k refinishing it and replacing all the capping tiles too. My inground is stainless steel with a liner. They apparently don’t make them like that anymore, liner if you take care of it will give you a dozen years..I changed mine last year for $4500 all in 27 mil thinness, looks great and I now have salt water so it should last longer…as chorine really does a number on everything.

    I have had my pool open nearly two months now. It is really great the salt system super low maintenance.

  44. Juice Box says:

    thinness…yes I think they should make them thicker…27 mil seems thin but they go as low as 20 mil.

  45. Fast Eddie says:

    Juice: To convert to a liner would cost me five times more than redoing the epoxy. And for some stupid reason, I prefer fresh water and chlorine.

    Bystander: Yeah, they had no idea. Does anyone tell the truth on those disclosures? I can’t recall!! The guy knew those pipes were wrapped in asbestos. Growing up, I remember pipes in the basement wrapped in the stuff.

  46. Juice Box says:

    So Kashkari says no rate hikes for 2 1/2 two years and Bullard dares to repeat Greenspan’s infamous comment from 2005 about market housing “froth”.

    Good times folks markets reacted badly today.

  47. Juice Box says:

    There is plenty of chlorine in my pool Eddie, just not too much as the chlorinator that converts the salt to chlorine is controlled buy a chip and not my fat fingers dropping perhaps too many 3” tablets into the old fashioned system that dissolves the tablets as fast as it can…

    I have never experienced an adverse event yet with algae etc, pool is super duper clean on the salt system….

    Anyway you might have a longer life on the epoxy with a salt system. I am far from the expert but a higher % chlorine will affect all coatings..

    Funny think I stored all those chorine tablets etc in my shed. The vapors escaping the containers tarnished my stainless steel smoker and a few other things stored in the shed. I am glad to be rid of it.

    I do still use shock when opening and closing but that is the only time so far.

  48. Juice Box says:

    re: virus was made in a lab.

    So the war between the CCP and the anti-communist expats continues….They got to Jon Stewart this week too…The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence….

    I do like the info coming down about the sequencing…whole-genome sequencing suggests something peculiar, so we shall see where that leads…

    Then again some better things have come from all of these deaths, new medicine and massive amounts of funding for genomics research that could save us all or end us too.

    Just imagine the possibilities

  49. 3b says:

    Juice: what confidence we should have, with Fed officials contradicting each other. Thank God for the Fed!!

  50. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – Ecobee system arrived yesterday, so thanks for link to the free deal from New Jersey Natural Gas….

    I just finished replacing my two older Honeywell thermostats.. Ecobee claims up to 26% savings on heating and cooling costs. Nice tech so far, installation was a breeze. I had to rewire one of my units to a five wire and sand and paint the edges around the wall mount for both devices. Luckily I had both paint colors stored in good condition from my last whole house painting 8 years ago..

    New thermostats work nice, app is easy to manage etc, you can invite family as guests too which allows my wife to control, very easy setup. I have already noticed a difference, the older thermostats would run the cycle longer. I believe average with it is hot out was something like every 15 minutes. We shall see next month if it saves money as they will collect the data etc and publish reports at NO COST for the analytics and remote control of the thermostats….

  51. JUice Box says:

    Phoenix – pic of my handywork…Paint is still drying..

    https://imgur.com/tBUMuz8

  52. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Go jersey! Love it or hate it!

    RentL0rd says:
    June 18, 2021 at 5:22 pm
    Friday surprise
    https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/new-jersey-is-best-us-state-to-live-in-study/

  53. Juice Box says:

    3B – so they say near term inflation is only temporary.. So can someone explain how housing inflation a hard asset that takes forever to move is ONLY temporary….

    Kashkari is correct however. Rates need to be ZIRP forever. Non- farm numbers are juiced we won’t get back to REAL full employment for a long long time two years is optimists.

    And when I say ZIRP I only mean LIBOR and it’s replacement….There will be no savers every again…..Place your bets..

  54. 3b says:

    Rent : And the poll in April by You Gov ranked NJ 48. Cant take these things too
    seriously.

  55. Dink says:

    Juice Box, what size is your pool? I was going to do liner replacement, salt conversion and filter change. I called in April though and everyone laughed me off the phone.

  56. Juice Box says:

    Dink what county? Down here it’s Mid State Pool Liners out of East Brunswick for best price on liner, get the thicker 27 mil or 30 mil liner, depends on pattern. As far as salt conversion any old pool company can do it, but you may need an electrician for the hookup either 110v or 220 v works as box needed steps voltage down only to 9.2 volts output. Super easy to install as chlorinator is inline at the last leg to pool easy to install pool conversion to salt based on gallons, just add the right amount of salt all done in a few hours etc. Filter change? DE is the best for clearest water. I would recommend getting a few quotes although my Hayward is great, and I have an very quiet variable speed Pentair programable pump. It saves allot of electric and is quiet even near full speed of 3400 RPM.

  57. Juice Box says:

    Dink I forgot to mention 18,000 gallons Grecian design. I hope you don’t have one of those 40,000 gallons with a liner!

  58. Dink says:

    Were up in Bergen. 30k gallons. Actually have a de filter but pool guy recommended cartridge bc we dont have adequate backwashing space, plus the upkeep on cartridge is much easier supposedly.

  59. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Looks good. Glad someone on here got the deal.

  60. Phoenix says:

    Greedy Boomer!

    Fast Eddie says:
    June 18, 2021 at 12:22 pm
    No need to talk about real estate it only goes up…

    I want seven figures for my house. It’s warranted because I’m prestigious.

  61. Phoenix says:

    We are in agreement on this.

    3b says:
    June 18, 2021 at 11:57 am
    Phoenix: Both parties are corrupt, optics might be different , but nevertheless corrupt.

  62. Phoenix says:

    If Toyota made pools all you would have to do is change the filter and add your chemicals. The pool would last forever.

    Everything an American company makes has planned obsolescence built right into the product.

  63. Phoenix says:

    “The guy knew those pipes were wrapped in asbestos. Growing up, I remember pipes in the basement wrapped in the stuff.”

    If the Chesterfields don’t get you, the asbestos will. But who cares if you are a real boomer, Medicare will pay anyway. The same Medicare that Romney wants to get rid of for the youth. So why spend 10k to get the asbestos removed when I can sell it to some young sucker for top dollar and profit?

  64. D-FENS says:

    Growth in south Jersey is in pot farms. My neighbor does low voltage wiring and security systems… including security cameras for them and he’s killing it down there.

    grim says:
    June 18, 2021 at 6:39 am
    From the Press of Atlantic City:

    Pandemic worse than 2007-09 recession for South Jersey economy, Stockton report finds

    The COVID-19 pandemic was far more damaging to the leisure and hospitality sector than the 2007-09 recession, according to a report released Thursday by the William J. Hughes Center for Public Policy at Stockton

  65. chicagofinance says:

    Thank you. I’ve been waiting weeks for this post.

    Fast Eddie says:
    June 18, 2021 at 1:32 pm
    3b,

    The more the house smells like 30 years worth of Chesterfields and cabbage boiled in Rheingold beer, the higher the price goes. I’ll never forget, when looking at open houses around the peak in 2008 or so, my kid says, in earshot of everyone, including the realtor, “Can we leave, the smell is making me sick.” This was the glorious days of the $679,000 shit hole tour. I’ve finally learned how to price a house: If the asking price doesn’t literally make you feel embarrassed, you underpriced the joint.

  66. Chicago says:

    I just received an e-mail from a client.
    In the signature below his name.
    This person is partner level at a consulting firm.

    My Pronouns: he/him/his

    We are so fcuked

  67. Fast Eddie says:

    Thank G0d I am in the latter stretch of my career. I wrote a whole diatribe and then erased it. That’s all I’m going to say.

  68. leftwing says:

    “This person is partner level at a consulting firm.
    My Pronouns: he/him/his
    We are so fcuked”

    Yes, and this particular statement has been going on for a while.

    “I wrote a whole diatribe and then erased it.”

    LOL, been there. You’re better off doing so. Plan what you’re BBQing tonight next to your pool. Much more positive energy than wasting it on that foolishness.

    Personally, I’m going to add another three or more pronouns (sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc) to make a ‘handle’ for myself….but I’m going to make them all different, even contradictory, but take them very earnestly and never let on I’m doing it just to fcuk with the woke crowd. Anyone who questions me – or my seriousness – is just an “-ist”.

  69. leftwing says:

    Wish I still had hair so I could do dreadlocks.

    Maybe I’ll just buy some. Two birds with one stone.

  70. Fast Eddie says:

    Personally, I’m going to add another three or more pronouns

    Please post them, looking forward to it.

  71. BonniePresidentDonnie says:

    Both of you stooges get back to work spreading my orange horse poo.

    Stooge Leftwing, listen baldy. I know you are jealous of my glorious orange works. But i need you to spread some of the poo from the porta potty near hole 8 which borders Gov Whitman’s house. I want her to smell something good this weekend.

    Stooge Eddie. Go to jfk and pick up a diplomatic pouch from “the boss”. It has my instructions to be extracted by russian special forces when my indictment happens.

    Where is stooge No One. I need him to pick up my new reinstatement coronation chair. Is a copy of the queen’s coronation chair, all in gold of course. My corona is going to be Abe Lincoln stove top hat.

  72. BRT says:

    What I don’t get about the pronouns is, why do they list 3? Is there a person that goes by he/him/hers?

  73. RentL0rd says:

    Shitago? Why does it bother you that some random dude choses to use whatever pronouns he uses? What are you threatened about?

  74. joyce says:

    “why do they list 3?”

    Pronoun for subject (he/she), pronoun for object (him/her) and the possessive pronouns (his, hers)

  75. BonniePresidentDonnie says:

    BRT,

    I use 3. As you know I have the greatest vocabulary ever. Cruz and DeSantis told me so.

    He. As he goes there. As Bonnie Prez Donnie goes there.

    Him. As him is not getting indicted.

    His. As whom is Bonnie Prez Donnie’s daddy.

  76. chicagofinance says:

    I have known this person for a significant period of time. Total bloodless harda$$ capitalist (although a bit left politically). It comes across as extortion from the lower levels of the firm. They recruit from the top schools, and it must be related to on-campus recruiting….. I’m sure of it.

    “Why does it bother you?” political virtue signaling at work? The idea that they could blow a seven/eight figure consulting contract because of patent nonsense? I seethe when I see people presume they have moral authority and wag it in my face. I am more angry at the behavior than the subject matter of the behavior, if that clarifies.

    RentL0rd says:
    June 19, 2021 at 9:50 am
    Shitago? Why does it bother you that some random dude choses to use whatever pronouns he uses? What are you threatened about?

  77. chicagofinance says:

    You know what? I have reconsidered my position.

    I thought it through. It is the life sciences/biotechnology field.

    I will make a bet that they have significant foreign nationals/non-traditional American names.

    I bet it is more of a courtesy to the recipient that the sender is identifying that they are male or female as a practical matter, and not some kind of political statement.

    I should take back my outrage.

  78. Juice Box says:

    Pronouns are all about microaggressions and creating safe spaces. Simply asking someone “Where are you from?” is a microaggression. Asking someone about their pronouns is a microaggression. Saying you are not racist is a microaggression.
    You cannot win this conversation folks because well winning is a microaggression. It’s all part of the stratagem, as the borg say you will be assimilated.

  79. leftwing says:

    BonniePresidentDonnie……………..yaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnn

  80. Juice Box says:

    I feel unsafe around this “Bonnie”Donnie” who also uses various other monkiers in a very poorly executed attempt at some perverse humor directed at a few posters. “BonnieDonnie” etc person with multiple screen names please leave this safe space now, but do come back when you feel you can add value to the conversation.

  81. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s easier to be a lazy failure than it is to sacrifice and succeed. The democrats in charge understand this and know their grovelers are too weak and witless to realize they’re being used. Love is love, science is real, my emotions need to be dampened and buffered… hollow terms and symbols to appear sympathetic and caring. It’s laughable to think that government cares about anyone and frustrating because those in the know are forced to pay for it.

  82. BRT says:

    Microagressions were invented by people hunting to be offended. Was at starbucks a few weeks back. For some reason, cash register malfunctions. Woman has to call over the manager. The manger is a guy in a dress with the hairiest legs ever with Irish Kelly Green died hair and has an ultra deep voice. I got the angry stare from he/her? How am I supposed to know what to say? Comes up to me and goes “what seems to be the problem” and I get an angry stare from this person clearly looking to see if there’s a microagression that can be coaxed out of me. So I just say “Technical difficulties with the cash register. How are “we” doing?”. Best I could think of on the fly. Crisis averted.

  83. BRT says:

    Science is real and continually tainted by political nonsense. Anyone who fails to acknowledge this is more likely in using science a political tool to suppress opinions or worse, skeptics. I’ve been saying it for years and actively pointed it out every chance I could with respect to the pandemic.

    If you’ve ever been in a room with real scientists, half of them are skeptics that look to tear apart hypothesis and point out that the person presenting is ignoring aspects in their data or drawing conclusions without enough evidence. Personally, it was a professor from South Africa that I worked with that taught me the importance if skepticism in science and sifting through the BS.

    That being said, those guys never rise through the ranks. Those that push political BS and overrepresent their research do.

  84. OrangeBonniePrezDonnnie says:

    Juice,

    I’m feeling microaggrieved. I’m telling my Q crowd and Putin.

    But if you behave I’ll give you front row tickets to my reinstatement. Right next to pumpkin. And if you need a job. I got one for you. Is weird but poor Giuliani needs his diapers changed. Pays good.

  85. OrangeBonniePresDonnie says:

    A lot of you here talk with authority about your ideologies.

    Sometimes you say very interesting things. Fast Eddie for example was very seditious a few months back.

    I quote Hannah Arendt.

    “The greatest enemy of authority, therefore, is contempt, and the surest way to undermine it is laughter.”

    Boy, you guys hate it when someone toys with your mind a bit. Hell, and I just have the equivalent of undergrad degree in these arts. Can you picture what a true pro would do to you.

    If the shoe fit, wear it.

  86. BRT says:

    Hell, and I just have the equivalent of undergrad degree in these arts.

    The equivalent? Does that mean you didn’t finish?

  87. Ez says:

    11:56 The label “cultures of honor” refers to cultures placing a high emphasis on the importance of a man’s willingness (and ability) to violently, and even lethally, retaliate against anyone who insults him or his family. Sometimes such aggressive behaviors are initiated if one’s values are insulted.

  88. SmallGovConservative says:

    RentL0rd says:
    June 19, 2021 at 9:50 am
    “Why does it bother you that some random dude choses to use whatever pronouns he uses?”

    It’s always worth taking a minute to point out the sheer insanity of the modern day Democrat/liberal/progressive; especially those responsible for governance, but even the man-on-the-street Dem as well. As Eddie has pointed out, they’re all concerned about labels and symbols, but ask them to do the hard work of securing our borders, negotiating trade agreements that are fair to US workers, or ensuring the safety of our cities, the he/his/it crowd is nowhere to be found.

  89. Phoenix says:

    Ez,
    And in many cases, nothing wrong with it. If I were on a jury I could see myself acquitting someone of a crime based on that defense.

    There are some lines you just don’t cross. Ever.

  90. Phoenix says:

    but ask them to do the hard work of securing our borders, negotiating trade agreements that are fair to US workers, or ensuring the safety of our cities, the republican and democrat run political crowd is nowhere to be found.

    They are too busy securing deals for the wealth of themselves and their families.

    They don’t care about you or anyone else.

  91. Phoenix says:

    I got one for you. Is weird but poor Giuliani needs his diapers changed. Pays good.

    No, it isn’t. In fact, caregivers are some of the least paid workers in North America.

    Unless he hires a 304. But then it’s a bit more than just changing the diaper.

  92. SmallGovConservative says:

    Phoenix says:
    June 19, 2021 at 2:58 pm
    “…ask them to do the hard work…the republican and democrat run political crowd is nowhere to be found.”

    Reagan’s (Rep) ‘peace through strength’ policy won the cold war; Oblama’s (Dem) ‘lead-from-behind’ strategy allowed it to restart. Giuliani (Rep) solved the crime problem in NYC; DeBlasio (Dem) allowed it to skyrocket. Trump (Rep) largely secured the southern border with his ‘remain in Mexico’ policy; SlowJoe (Dem) has already created a disaster down there.

    There is no governance equivalence between the R’s and the modern day D’s — the D’s are unfit to govern — period!

  93. SmallGovConIsOseToTraitorEddie says:

    SmallCon Cons,

    So how do you handle that is 12/31/2024. Popular vote and electoral votes won by Harris. However, the southern usual suspects states refuse to ratify using the new voting rules and ratify the rep candidate.

    What are you going to say or do them ?

    Feel good that is your guy even if the you changes the rules of the game. And understanding that it WILL NEVER BE THE SAME in this country and for your kids.

    Love to hear the excuse you are going to say.

  94. joyce says:

    SmallGovConservative,

    I recall there was an amnesty bill signed in 1986.

  95. RentL0rd says:

    Chicago, bold of you to reconsider your outrage. I don’t mean to preach as I sometimes catch myself letting something bother me that shouldn’t.

    Smalld1ckConservative – why do you presume so much with so little knowledge of the world?

  96. Phoenix says:

    You are right Joyce.

    “The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA or the Simpson–Mazzoli Act) was passed by the 99th United States Congress and signed into law by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on November 6, 1986.

    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to hire illegal immigrants knowingly and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants. The act also legalized most undocumented immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1982.”

  97. leftwing says:

    “The greatest enemy of authority, therefore, is contempt, and the surest way to undermine it is laughter.”

    “Boy, you guys hate it when someone toys with your mind a bit.”

    Eh, agree with the premise, which by your own admission is not yours. As to the conclusion, no, you don’t “toy” with anyone’s mind nor are you humorous. You’re irrelevant. And now, a self admitted troll. Go away.

    “So how do you handle that is 12/31/2024. Popular vote and electoral votes won by Harris. However, the southern usual suspects states refuse to ratify using the new voting rules and ratify the rep candidate.”

    Now you found something that IS funny….First, that illiterate cackling cunt won (if one can call it that) less than 1% of the Dem primary vote and dropped out early. Less than 1% of the DEM vote. The idea that she even runs on the top of the next ticket is hilarious.

    Secondly, dumbass, it’s YOUR side that changed the rules….States’ rules were well codified, you guys hijacked them prior to last election under the cover of COVID. All that is happening now is weak kneed RINOs are yielding points they already had that you took prior to the last election….

  98. BonniePrezDonnieWithRealGreatestHair says:

    I was going to call Curly. But you got none. Lol

    Back to serious. Go and pick up my gold plated coronation chair and matching stove top hat.

    My reinstatement is arriving soon. Putin promise d me.

  99. BRT says:

    Apparently this was the celebration in Long Branch today

    https://twitter.com/slat67/status/1406419422575747072

  100. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Finally waking up. First thing I would do is cut off any migration to the west. Start shipping these people out instead of in.

    “Drought-stricken communities push back against data centers
    As cash-strapped cities welcome Big Tech to build hundreds of million-dollar data centers in their backyards, critics question the environmental cost.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/drought-stricken-communities-push-back-against-data-centers-n1271344

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