Rent your shore house yet? If not, too late.

From the Star Ledger:

Jersey Shore rental homes going fast despite harsh New Jersey winter

With such a bitter winter, vacationers are ahead of the game and already booking their rental houses down at the shore.

From Sea Isle City to Wildwood and Cape May, shore rentals have been snatched up quickly in anticipation of a warm summer.

Along the coast in Sea Isle, a common trend of grabbing those rentals is to book online starting as early as December and January.

“We are slightly ahead of where we were last year. For the areas we cover with rentals, we have very little left,” Noah Freda, rental agent with Sea Isle Realty, Inc. said.

Specifically, shore homes are already taken for the busiest months of the year — late July into mid-August — but in other spring and summer weeks, there are still decent rentals available, according to Freda.

Compared to last year, the snow has been much more frequent and for those travelers who wish to see the rentals in person, the snow has put them behind schedule, Freda continued.

“You have people who like to come down and see the houses, wait for the weather to clear but the snow has hurt us a little bit,” Freda said.

While the busy summer months are already filled, down throughout Wildwood, people began reserving rentals back in October.

Rental homes for July 4 into August are already claimed, leaving vacationers with less options for the holiday summer month.

“This seems to be the highest volume (of rentals) over the past five years. The vast majority are booked,” Island Realty Group broker Joe Zarroli said.

“A lot of people are calling and unfortunately have to look into other dates.”

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64 Responses to Rent your shore house yet? If not, too late.

  1. anon (the good one) says:

    According to one sex blogger, “in years past CPAC has developed a reputation for being one of the biggest gay hook-up destinations this side of the White Party.” Some highlights from this year’s batch include (all links are most likely NSFW):

    CPAC – I need a MAN. NOW! – m4m – 36 (CPAC convention)

    Okay.
    So. I spend so much time in rural Indiana, CPAC is my only outlet for this sort of thing.
    What I’m looking for, you, a masculine Ayn Rand, me, the 47%. And I want you to slap me around hard and give it to me good.

    Or. . .you could bust in my room, catch me trying to enroll in a healthcare market place/state exchange, and the punish me for it. Punish me good.

    We can meet at the bar first, if you want. I will be wearing khakis and a navy blue blazer.

    Elsewhere, “Big Dad seeks Trim College Bottom CPAC – m4m – 44 (Alexandria Old Town)” and “College Freshman in Town for CPAC – m4m – 18 (Gaylord)” promises, “Can be very discreet, only here for a few days.”

    Even as satirical Republican fan-fiction, the ads are great:

    CPAC looking for my Allen West – m4m (CPAC)

    Patriots!

    What an incredible day today was! Christie and Jindal and some great sessions. I am ready to unwind and have some fun. I am looking to make one of my biggest fantasies come true.

    Me: Police Uniform

    You: Army Uniform

  2. grim says:

    From the WSJ:

    Surging Home Prices Are a Double-Edged Sword

    The U.S. housing market faces a challenge at the start of the spring sales season: higher prices.

    It is hard to overstate the benefits of rising prices to the economy broadly and to homeowners, banks and home builders specifically after years of declines. Price gains have pulled more Americans from the brink of foreclosure and given home buyers more confidence that they won’t get stuck with an asset whose value will decline.

    But those gains have a painful edge, too, especially because prices have bounced back so strongly. The increases have rekindled concerns about affordability, particularly for first-time buyers, and could damp the gains of a housing rebound still in its early stages.

    “Prices ran up so fast in 2013, it hurt first-timers’ ability to become homeowners,” said John Burns, chief executive of a home-building consulting firm in Irvine, Calif. “It’s going to be a slower recovery than people had hoped because a number of people have been priced out of the market.”

    Home values nationwide are up 11% over the past two years, according to real-estate information service Zillow Inc., Z -1.87% leaving values around 14% below their 2007 peak. Mortgage rates, which jumped a full percentage point to about 4.5% in the past year, have sharpened worries over housing affordability.

    Even as prices have increased, housing still appears affordable by one traditional gauge. Since 1990, American homeowners have spent about 24% of monthly income on their mortgage payments, according to data from Morgan Stanley. Today, that payment-to-income ratio stands at around 20%, below the long-run average.

    The problem with that view of affordability: It assumes borrowers have great credit and large down payments. The ratio isn’t favorable for first-time buyers and others with lower incomes and smaller down payments, which increases their monthly financing costs. The payment ratio for first-time buyers was around 24% at the end of last year, in line with its long-run average, according to the Morgan Stanley analysis.

    This pinch on first-timers is troubling because, so far, the housing recovery has depended to an unusual degree on cash buyers and investors. The relatively weak position of entry-level buyers could further suppress the homeownership rate—now off more than four percentage points from its 2004 peak—as more of them rent, said Vishwanath Tirupattur, a managing director at Morgan Stanley.

  3. grim says:

    1 – I thought it was pretty much expected that all politicians were whores, but what’s your problem with gay republicans?

  4. Street Justice says:

    SL says they are booking places “despite” the cold weather? I would say BECAUSE of it. Most people are longing for warmer weather and planning your summer vacation is a mental vacation from the harsh winter weather we had this year.

  5. anon (the good one) says:

    sent my deposit for summer house in late Jan and already low inventory. paid too much, but don’t want to get on a plane. have considered buying a place, but jj will tell you that it’s better to rent.

  6. anon (the good one) says:

    hypocrisy. republicans, come out of the closed. we, liberals, won’t judge you based on sexual orientation.

    grim says:
    March 10, 2014 at 6:41 am
    1 – I thought it was pretty much expected that all politicians were whores, but what’s your problem with gay republicans?

  7. Comrade Nom Deplume, back as Captain Justice says:

    Set up our beach rental months ago. Really important if you need a particular week.

  8. Comrade Nom Deplume, back as Captain Justice says:

    [6] anon,

    No, you judge based on occupation, industry, income, skin color, religious beliefs, gender . . .

    (Sorry folks, didn’t mean to feed the troll but that was too easy to ignore)

  9. Street Justice says:

    You are the hypocrite. What makes you think that everyone who ever voted for or ran for public office as a Republican is anti-gay? That’s very prejudiced of you, anon.

    6.anon (the good one) says:
    March 10, 2014 at 7:13 am
    hypocrisy. republicans, come out of the closed. we, liberals, won’t judge you based on sexual orientation.

  10. Charlie says:

    Low inventory everywhere, not just the beach. The square mile I care about in Westfield has about 10 houses: half leftovers from last year, half new construction. So option is pay 700k for a POS that nobody wanted or 1.5M for a new place

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    I went to two open houses this past weekend in Ho Ho Kus. I know, I know, why punish myself. Actually, I went to a “pocket” listing in Park Ridge on Saturday. How about that!! The Park Ridge deal was a bi-level with some sh1tty updates and awkward layouts. The place overall really s.ucked and needed a complete redo. The seller even told us himself that there was some (ahem…) mold remidiation that needed to be done.

    He was asking 610K but the joint should be in the upper 400s. His girlfriend left him AFTER they bought the place. Nice! Now, he’s trying to recoup the money so that he can give her share back because she’s a single Mom with a two year old she had with another guy!! Oy! And her parents were going to move in!! Omg! These are the metrics I talk about that you can’t measure.

    The Ho Ho Kus joints were the typical “smash and grab” variety with shoe box bedrooms and various things right and wrong. When you have an open house in the so-called “to die for” towns with no inventory, there’s a problem. Both were in the 600s, of course. I mean, it’s Ho Ho Kus! :o

  12. chicagofinance says:

    Liberals absolutely discriminate based on sexual orientation…….discrimination is to treat someone differently….that could be for or against their benefit……I show the respect of having it be a non-issue…..DO YOU?

  13. JJ says:

    There is also low inventory due to sandy taken out a lot of vacation homes PLUS folks elevating homes are renting other folks homes.

    I got three responses in last week for my place. Although I have it barely advertised. My winter tenant is in the unit till June 6th. I dont want to show unit to folks while they are there and after they leave I want to get a new washer/dryer in unit and move back in some of the summer stuff I took out. So I am not ready till at the earlest June 15th to rent. Plus until kids are out from school last week of june folks only want to rent on the weekends not whole weeks. And I cant rent Memorial Day weekend.

    Folks also now are not in the market as much to own a vacation home at beach. Flood insurance on secondary homes can be expensive. Ones near me are vacation homes or rentals that are selling under 400K are all cash at beach. Second home have no subsidies and flood insurance forces you to buy up to amount of mortgage not value of home. Beach bungalows on 40×60 lots that are fixer uppers go for 275K while empty plots go for 200K. Flood insurance at 3k to 9k a year is not worth it long term. Even in Sandy those bungalows are so small you could fix them back for 50K.

    Messed up part is next sandy more homes will be without flood insurance than this sandy.

  14. Anon E. Moose says:

    Anon [6];

    Of course you’d love more eternally DINK couples — more tax revenue to squeeze; no pesky kids in school to pay for; redistribution for all! It all works great until is doesn’t…

  15. JJ says:

    Everyone loves DINKs. I rented my old apt three years to DINKS. Newlyweds and worked full time 12 hours a day. Apt was even better when they left.

    I rented my condo to a couple with two kids for a lousy six days and when they left a picture was broken and there were scuff marks up and down the steps. It just took 30 mintues to undo damage and picture was just a hand me down I got for free so I did not take any deposit money. But I can only imagine the damage they would do over time. After she left ni feedback I asked her what I could approve she mentioned my dryer is super slow and small. She said it took an extra 40 -90 minutes every day when she did loads of wash. I guess she had other folks come by. So she is doing 10 loads a week and running dishwasher 7x a week. Honestly families will go through applicances. Then I can charge for normal wear and teat. So a family after a three year rental the carpeting needs to be redone, appliances are worn, storm doors been slammed one thousand times. Plus all the toliets OMG. I got three kids and I am in ACE or Home Depot a lot they wear things out.

    I found out something interesting. Realtors cannot discriminate. Professional Landlords can not. But a home owner who owns up to three homes and has three leases or less a year is exempt from discrimination laws.

    So I can legally for my winter rentals, say no kids, no singles, no handicapped, no whatever. Thought that was interesting. But I was reading history of it and ment for folks in two family homes with working dads and stay at home wives young kids.

    I guess you have to be careful who you rent to. Cant make a house 40K handicapped asessable, your kid has astma cant rent to smoking, dont want to rent to bikers, may not want to rent to kids as your kids already are home etc.

    Interesting that people pay realtors to do rentals if they fall into this catagory as realtor will rent to any old person.

    15.Anon E. Moose says:
    March 10, 2014 at 9:28 am
    Anon [6];

    Of course you’d love more eternally DINK couples — more tax revenue to squeeze; no pesky kids in school to pay for; redistribution for all! It all works great until is doesn’t…

  16. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    The squawking of the anons of the world is useful. Kind of like using the Liberal Call.

    http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Miss-Bloom-County/1351825

  17. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    I recall saying some time ago that we’d be seeing more of this:

    http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/10/news/companies/banana-merger/index.html

    “The combined company will continue to be listed on the New York Stock Exchange, but will have its legal headquarters in Ireland. That is likely to provide tax savings for the company. U.S. drugmaker Perrigo (PRGO) achieved just that benefit last year with its relocation after its purchase of Irish drugmaker Elan.”

    Maybe we can block the merger on Exon-Florio grounds? Are bananas a strategic resource?

  18. Ottoman says:

    Its easy to pretend something’s a non issue when you’re not in one of the classes of people republicans as a party are fighting tooth and nail to keep from marrying the person you love, or holding a job, or getting a house, or being served lunch at Dennys. Its also the American right wing that’s responsible for the current genocide against gays in Uganda, Nigeria, and other african countries. Congratulations. If only they could get away with that bullsh!t here, right?

    Gender is also a non issue unless you’re being force raped by a metal probe up your pvssy before you exercise your right to a constitutionally protected abortion. Funny how anti-regulation republicans are when it comes to corporations but not vaginas.

    As for those CPAC ads, I often wonder if some of them are made up. We all know how hypocritical Republicans are and how often they’re caught voting against gay rights while getting caught sucking d!ck in a back alley, so its easy to believe such posts, even if they’re fake.

    “Liberals absolutely discriminate based on sexual orientation…….discrimination is to treat someone differently….that could be for or against their benefit……I show the respect of having it be a non-issue…..DO YOU?”

  19. Ottoman says:

    Its easy to pretend something’s a non issue when you’re not in one of the classes of people republicans as a party are fighting tooth and nail to keep from marrying the person you love, or holding a job, or getting a house, or being served lunch at Dennys. Its also the American right wing that’s responsible for the current genocide against gays in Uganda, Nigeria, and other african countries. Congratulations. If only they could get away with that bullsh!t here, right?

    Gender is also a non issue unless you’re being force r@ped by a metal probe up your pvssy before you exercise your right to a constitutionally protected @bortion. Funny how anti-regulation republicans are when it comes to corporations but not v@ginas.

    As for those CPAC ads, I often wonder if some of them are made up. We all know how hypocritical Republicans are and how often they’re caught voting against gay rights while getting caught sucking d!ck in a back alley, so its easy to believe such posts, even if they’re fake.

    “Liberals absolutely discriminate based on sexual orientation…….discrimination is to treat someone differently….that could be for or against their benefit……I show the respect of having it be a non-issue…..DO YOU?”

  20. joyce says:

    Ottoman,
    Wouldn’t it be better to remove all of the govt “benefits” granted to married couples? That way, marriage can go back to being about people in love and nothing more; no need to ask the state for a permission slip.

  21. Phoenix says:

    Innovation in the USA… Increased prices with piddling increases in speed.

    “The country that literally invented the internet is now behind Estonia in terms of download speeds”
    http://theweek.com/article/index/257404/why-is-american-internet-so-slow

    UK and Germany
    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2014/mar/10/david-cameron-wants-superfast-5g-internet-connection

  22. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [19] ottoman,

    If it helps, I am not at all interested in your puzzy.

  23. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [21] phoenix

    The benefits of late adoption. And, I suspect, of not trying to regulate the crap out of something.

  24. Phoenix says:

    20 Joyce,
    Only if you are willing to take it away from EVERYONE, including the so-called “grandfathered” ones.
    That is not going to happen.

    Ottoman,
    Wouldn’t it be better to remove all of the govt “benefits” granted to married couples? That way, marriage can go back to being about people in love and nothing more; no need to ask the state for a permission slip.

  25. grim says:

    What benefits are we talking about here?

    From a taxes perspective, I don’t get the same level of benefits as two individuals, unmarried, filing separately, but cohabitating.

    I get no benefits with regards to employer health insurance, since we’ve been “carved out” already (we both pay separate – no “family” plans).

    Rights of survivorship when it comes to estate, should one of us die? Hardly seems like a benefit.

    Car insurance? Hardly, a benefit, from what I’ve seen there is very little discount provided for a married couple versus two separates.

  26. grim says:

    And hell, if there is a wide gap with regards to income, cohabitating and filing separately is going to much more benefit laden, especially if the lower-income individual qualifies for social support/entitlements.

  27. grim says:

    Also, from a credit perspective, if one party has poor credit and the other perfect credit, from a cost of funds perspective, marriage would be accompanied with a penalty vs. the higher credit party taking a loan.

    I really doubt this has anything to do with being a financial benefits land grab.

  28. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    The upshot of the culture wars is to foster a state of warfare. Now I am LESS likely to want to hire someone whom I perceive to be a culture warrior, and when it comes to dealing with those I find repugnant (well, not repugnant but someone I think will be trouble), I will either find a way not to or simply make it more profitable for me.

    The gay couples in NM and AZ aren’t going to be getting their cakes and photos from devoutly anti-gay businesses. Those businesses will find a way to avoid doing business that doesn’t implicate the law. Oh, it will mean lying and prevaricating, but that might be a lesser of evils. For example, gay couple comes to photographer, who then tells them “Oh, sorry, looks like I am booked that day.” Gay couple goes to baker who tells them “sure, but it will cost more and may not be ready in time if I cannot find the cake topper.” Can these be prosecuted as shams? Sure but good luck proving it.

    A more honest, yet equally effective approach, is to simply be surly, noncooperative, and imply strongly that there may be delays. Tell the prospective client straight out “look, the law says I have to serve you but nothing says it has to be me personally. So I have to hire a sub and that is going to take time. So leave your deposit and dates, and I will try to hire a person to handle this.” Unless the person is intent on making a statement by forcing you to work for them, they are going to say “I’m going elsewhere”. And not only is this is legally bulletproof since you aren’t turning them away and you don’t owe them smiling service. Further, you have strengthened your hand in any later slander suit.

  29. Street Justice says:

    Get the government out of the business of providing a “license” to marry. Why do I need to beg them for permission to marry someone anyway?

  30. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [29] street.

    Licensure is intended for health reasons. You usually have to prove you aren’t diseased, and you cannot marry close relatives. Other than that, there are no grounds for denying a license.

  31. joyce says:

    Comrade,
    That’s bull. Licenses were to stop interracial marriages.

  32. grim says:

    First you pay for the license, then pay for copies, then pay for a name change, then pay again to dmv for a new license, etc etc. Then you pay for more copies when you forgot about changing the name on your passport, or social security card, etc etc.

  33. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [31] joyce,

    Name the state where that’s the law.

  34. Happy Renter says:

    [28] “A more honest, yet equally effective approach, is to simply be surly, noncooperative, and imply strongly that there may be delays.”

    Ah, the DMV Lady approach.

  35. joyce says:

    An excerpt from the article I just posted: (and I was using past tense in my comment)

    “By the 1920s, 38 states prohibited whites from marrying blacks, “mulattos,” Japanese, Chinese, Indians, “Mongolians,” “Malays” or Filipinos. Twelve states would not issue a marriage license if one partner was a drunk, an addict or a “mental defect.” Eighteen states set barriers to remarriage after divorce.

    In the mid-20th century, governments began to get out of the business of deciding which couples were “fit” to marry. Courts invalidated laws against interracial marriage, struck down other barriers and even extended marriage rights to prisoners. “

  36. joyce says:

    From the article I just posted (and my comment was past tense)

    By the 1920s, 38 states prohibited whites from marrying blacks, “mu.lattos,” Japanese, Chinese, Indians, “Mongolians,” “Malays” or Filipinos. Twelve states would not issue a marriage license if one partner was a drunk, an addict or a “mental defect.” Eighteen states set barriers to remarriage after divorce.

    In the mid-20th century, governments began to get out of the business of deciding which couples were “fit” to marry. Courts invalidated laws against interracial marriage, struck down other barriers and even extended marriage rights to prisoners.

  37. joyce says:

    I tried posting a response twice; I think they’re both in moderation. Please skim through the article I just posted.

  38. grim says:

    Hold up, the guy who is in charge of making the pretty pink sparkle cupcakes with gum paste daisies is going to be surly?

  39. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [36] joyce,

    I wasn’t speaking in past tense.

  40. grim says:

    Welcome to New Jersey!

    From Bloomberg:

    NYC Property Tax Change Seen Yielding $4 Billion Windfall

    Mayor Bill de Blasio’s vision of raising income taxes to pay for pre-kindergarten and after-school programs would generate $530 million a year. By revamping property taxes — and taking on some of New York’s richest residents — he could get eight times as much.

    De Blasio, a self-described progressive Democrat, was elected on a promise to reduce income inequality in a city where the richest 1 percent took home almost 40 percent of all earnings in 2012. New York’s property-tax structure does little to reduce that divide and may even widen it.

    The real estate levy, the city’s biggest revenue source, uses a methodology that undervalues condominiums on Park Avenue, Central Park West and other enclaves of the wealthy; limits tax increases for owners in brownstone neighborhoods such as Greenwich Village and Park Slope; and shifts the heaviest burden to renters, many of them poor.

    While almost half of all city property value belongs to owners of one-, two- and three-family houses, they pay only 15 percent of the $21 billion in annual real-estate taxes, according to the Citizens Budget Commission, a business-backed watchdog. Making the system fairer could raise more than $4 billion a year, the New York-based group said.

  41. joyce says:

    We were talking about the origin of marriage licenses, so I thought. Also, my initial comment was in past tense. But anyway, of course there are no current laws against interracial marriages. I just looked up the NJ requirements and I didn’t see anything regarding health.
    http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/marriage_apply.shtml

    Requirements for entering into a Marriage:

    For two persons to establish a Marriage in this State, it shall be necessary that they satisfy all of the following criteria:

    a.Not be a party to another civil union, domestic partnership or marriage in this State or recognized by this State;

    b.Be at least 18 years of age, except that applicants under the age of 18 may enter into a Marriage with parental consent. Applicants under the age of 16 must obtain parental consent and have the consent approved in writing by any judge of the Superior Court, Chancery Division, Family part.

    Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:
    March 10, 2014 at 12:43 pm
    [36] joyce,

    I wasn’t speaking in past tense.

  42. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [35] renter,

    Yup. Even better, since the public accommodation aspect pervades here, and personal services, such as expressive or judgment, are usually exempt, you can put all of the”expressive” content on the client. Tell them “the law says I have to snap your pictures. But I don’t have to tell you when to smile, how to stand, how to move, or make any suggestions about what to do. You tell me to take the picture and I take it. That’s all the help I am legally bound to provide.”

    It would also help for such businesses to amend their contracts to specifically provide that you are contracting for photos and for professional guidance and expressive talents. The face charge includes all of the foregoing unless negotiated otherwise.

    I don’t care how much of a point you want to make, you aren’t going to hire that person and if you do, and later try to conflate bad customer service with discrimination, it is a much harder sell. First, because being difficult isn’t against the law, and second, the parameters of the bargain were established at pictures and only pictures, so you cannot complain because your photographer didn’t tell you not to stand with your back to the sun when you agreed he didn’t have to.

  43. joyce says:

    We were talking about the origins of the licenses, or so I thought. My comment was in past tense. But anyway, of course there are no current laws forbidding interracial marriages. I just looked up the NJ marriage requirements… nothing about health.

    http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/marriage_apply.shtml

  44. joyce says:

    another two comments in moderation? Have no clue which word(s) are the bad ones

  45. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [40] grim

    “Welcome to New Jersey!”

    Exactly what I thought when I read this. I would love to see an article on how NJ RE agents were sending contributions to the Di Blasio campaign.

    I remember a realtor in suburban Virginia used to hawk the tax advantages of VA compared to MD and DC. Living in VA was like giving yourself a 4% raise.

  46. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [36] joyce

    “Twelve states would not issue a marriage license if one partner was a drunk, an addict or a “mental defect.”’

    I can think of a lot of women who wish that their marriage licenses could have been denied on that basis.

  47. Michael says:

    Wow, now something wrong with deregulation. I’m convinced that it doesn’t matter about the system, it only matters about the level of corruption.

    “We deregulated high-speed internet access 10 years ago and since then we’ve seen enormous consolidation and monopolies… Left to their own devices, companies that supply internet access will charge high prices, because they face neither competition nor oversight. [BBC]”

  48. grim says:

    Deregulated energy space is an interesting one to look at if you need any kind of case study on deregulation gone entirely wrong.

    An entire industry dedicated to companies that make or do nothing … well except for marketing and billing. I’ve yet to see one provide better service at a better price than the monopolies that came before them. To this whole segment, the word “innovation” has nothing to do with generation, transmission lines, alternative energy, etc. It has to do with coming up with innovative new pricing plans (read: indecipherable pricing traps) and “value added services” (which provide no actual value at all), and the best part yet, iron-clad multi-year contracts with huge cancellation fees (they must have learned that from Verizon and AT&T).

  49. JJ says:

    If you are in AMT you get no real benefit from being married with kids.

    Plus if you have a baby mama she technically has no source of income. You can get food stamps and welfare. I did some charity work back in the early 1990s and you have all the NYS housing stock which is based on income, free if no income, food stamps and welfare etc.

    So we do this big xmas party for the poor folk and the baby mamas showed up with 2-4 kids. and what suprised me they had the dads with them, cops, firemen, garbage men you name it gaming system. All lived for free in large apts, had foodstamps and welfare. Big Escalades in the parking spots.
    Then the kicker is at any moment you can get married after last kid gets a free ride in college than now wife gets pension.

  50. Michael says:

    Like I stated earlier, there is no problem with govt programs or economic system. Where they all fail, is when human corruption come into play. These individuals should go to hell, you are crook for taking advantage of system to help poor people. What happens next, the program is taken away, because people have to get greedy and corrupt the system. NOTHING WILL EVER WORK AS LONG AS HUMAN BEINGS HAVE NO PROBLEM SCREWING OVER THE REST. If people actually did the right thing, all these programs and economic systems would all work with flying colors. Sad, but true.

    “JJ says:
    March 10, 2014 at 1:28 pm
    If you are in AMT you get no real benefit from being married with kids.

    Plus if you have a baby mama she technically has no source of income. You can get food stamps and welfare. I did some charity work back in the early 1990s and you have all the NYS housing stock which is based on income, free if no income, food stamps and welfare etc.

    So we do this big xmas party for the poor folk and the baby mamas showed up with 2-4 kids. and what suprised me they had the dads with them, cops, firemen, garbage men you name it gaming system. All lived for free in large apts, had foodstamps and welfare. Big Escalades in the parking spots.
    Then the kicker is at any moment you can get married after last kid gets a free ride in college than now wife gets pension”

  51. grim says:

    Hot off the presses – J&J sells KY to Durex.

    Now that is value-add.

  52. Comrade Nom Deplume, Guardian of the Realm says:

    [50] grim,

    But that means one less name in the JJ Equity Index

  53. JJ says:

    Dont get it. Who buys unlubricated condoms and then uses KY?

    50.grim says:
    March 10, 2014 at 1:46 pm
    Hot off the presses – J&J sells KY to Durex.

    Now that is value-add.

  54. Anon E. Moose says:

    Nom [28];

    Can these be prosecuted as shams? Sure but good luck proving it.

    Nom, proving it isn’t the point. The prosecution IS the punishment, not the $500 fine.

  55. Thanks to anon for providing today’s dose of stupid.

  56. anon (the good one) says:

    “What I’m looking for, you, a masculine Ayn Rand, me, the 47%. And I want you to slap me around hard and give it to me good.

    Or. . .you could bust in my room, catch me trying to enroll in a healthcare market place/state exchange, and the punish me for it. Punish me good.”

    Ascent of the Robots says:
    March 10, 2014 at 5:04 pm
    Thanks to anon

  57. Street Justice says:

    Cemetery’s Gun Blob (@cemeterygunblob)
    3/10/14, 7:01 PM
    “We’re the Only Ones Impatient Enough” confirmation of who the CT cop is who can’t wait to kick in doors? #2a #nj2as feedly.com/e/Yp_OlXK5

  58. Street Justice says:

    CT Cop to Gun Owning Patriot: “I Cannot Wait to Get the Order to Kick Your Door In”

    http://toprightnews.com/?p=1888

  59. Comrade Nom Deplume, back as Captain Justice says:

    I’m shocked to discover gambling going on here. . .

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/03/sharyl-attkisson-to-leave-cbs-news-184836.html

    She’s a great reporter but she’s just now figuring out CBS’ well- known bias?

  60. Comrade Nom Deplume, back as Captain Justice says:

    [53] moose

    Use of LLCs, asset sale agreements, and thin capitalization techniques deter aggressive enforcement.

  61. Comrade Nom Deplume, back as Captain Justice says:

    The generation we’ve raised. Well, not me, but you get the idea.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/10/us/texas-juveniles-charged/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

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