Maybe we have a shot?

From the Star Ledger:

Metro area including North Jersey is top contender for Amazon HQ2, firm says

The metro area including North Jersey earned the top ranking among contenders seeking to become home to Amazon’s second headquarters and the potential 50,000 workers it would employ, according to a research firm.

The Anderson Economic Group, a Chicago-based research group focused on economics and public policy, ranked the New York metropolitan area as the top of the list, though it does have one main detractor, said spokesman Jason Horowitz.

“Despite ending up dead last on the cost of doing business component of our index, no city can compete with its labor force, business services, and transportation infrastructure,” Horowitz said. “If Amazon wants the talent pool, infrastructure, and services that a big city provides, New York (metro area) is very well-positioned to land HQ2.”

Amazon recently announced that the company is looking to open a second headquarters and dozens of cities quickly responded with plans to enter the running.

Horowitz said the Philadelphia metro area, including portions of southern New Jersey, ranks seventh in its analysis largely on the strength of its transportation infrastructure, higher education sector, and businesses.

Princeton-based business location consultant John Boyd, however, told New Jersey 101.5 he considers Washington D.C. at the head of the pack, followed by Atlanta, Boston, Chicago and New Jersey.

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149 Responses to Maybe we have a shot?

  1. JJ fanboy says:

    I think the businesss friendly environment criteria keeps nj out.

  2. grim says:

    Corelogic HPI out the other day.

    New York – Jersey City – White Plains NY-NJ MSA up 4.2% YOY, and has now moved into “Overvalued” territory alongside big movers like Denver, etc.

    NJ Statewide, much more subdued at +2.2% year-over-year, in line with most of our neighbors (except NY):

    New York – Up 7.9%
    Pennsylvania – Up 3.2%
    Connecticut – Up 2.0%
    Delaware – Up 1.5%

  3. exjersey says:

    Emails…..private servers….where’s the outrage F-ckers??

  4. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    1) We are not talking about the secretary of state here.

    2) Did Kushner put classified information on there.

    3) Highly doubt there were 50,000 emails.

    4) Did he delete them all permanently after claiming he didn’t.

    5) Does he have a lifetime of service in the public sector where he should have learned better?

    6) Is he running for POTUS?

    7) Does he have a foundation where you can clearly pay for favor?

    Shall I go on?

    Or should we not give this kid the benefit of the doubt?

    When Kushner runs, then you can properly bring this up.

  5. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    Or you can bring it up now and somehow make a very, very weak comparison.

  6. exjersey says:

    It’s pathetic. Outrage of convenience. Typical.

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  8. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    I can think of much worse things to complain about with this administration. You can start with the rollback of some really important and useful environmental protections Obama put into place that affected very few and took years to establish. Maybe sprinkle in some facts like, ACA repeal failure, Immigrant ban failure, Not getting Mexico to build the wall, etc. And then there’s the non-stop, borderline, maniacal tweets.

    Kushner’s email transgressions hardly compare to the POTUS short body of work.

  9. exjersey says:

    Good point. Bottom line. We’re F:cked

  10. Juice Box says:

    There are probably a number of people that should be charged with obstruction of justice with Hillary’s emails. Let’s prosecute them and then go after Kushner and Ivanka for the same.

    Of course neither will happen

  11. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    I still can’t believe she didn’t end up in orange after the Swiss Bank Account issue was revealed. Wouldn’t have mattered. Pardons are easy to come by in that class. So when is the Menendez decision?

  12. Juice Box says:

    Menendez would probably trade his health care vote in the Senate if he could get a pardon from Trump he’s scum

  13. Grim says:

    Well, Hillary set the precedent and the Judiciary implicitly agreed with it.

    So, now that it’s acceptable, everyone will do it.

  14. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Any questions? The costs are high (for a reason), but the benefits far outweigh the costs. How many times have I heard this is a terrible place for business on this blog, yet it’s the number 1 contender for a business like Amazon by a research firm. Enough said, quit knocking down the area based on your bs opinion that the cost of doing business should be significantly lower.

    “Despite ending up dead last on the cost of doing business component of our index, no city can compete with its labor force, business services, and transportation infrastructure,” Horowitz said. “If Amazon wants the talent pool, infrastructure, and services that a big city provides, New York (metro area) is very well-positioned to land HQ2.”

  15. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If business was based on the factor of lowest cost, businesses would flock to the middle of nowhere. Unfortunately, for business models based on high skills, those places are not even an option. It’s only an option for businesses that run on wages barely above min wage aka no skills.

  16. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, sure. Keep telling yourself that.

    JJ fanboy says:
    October 5, 2017 at 7:05 am
    I think the businesss friendly environment criteria keeps nj out.

  17. 3b says:

    NJ should have a shot at Amazon based on its proximity to NYC and the ports airport etc. But those are the only reasons. Nevertheless it does not matter because NJ politicians will screw it up and Amazon will not locate in NJ.

  18. Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn't Tom Brady says:
  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Gotta love it.

    exjersey says:
    October 5, 2017 at 7:58 am
    It’s pathetic. Outrage of convenience. Typical.

  20. Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn't Tom Brady says:

    Amazon is wrestling with two significant and competing overarching metrics: the need to be near talent and hubs, and the need to keep costs down. So I expect them to go to that metropolitan area that offers them the most in concessions.

  21. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    Will come down to concessions. Would prefer not to have them here. The concessions NEVER work out in the end.

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How long have I stated that nj is not dying for these exact reasons stated below? Yet you and others shot me down repeatedly. You also forgot to add the highly educated/skilled workforce. Also, the huge population of millionaires, highest % in the entire united states.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 9:43 am
    NJ should have a shot at Amazon based on its proximity to NYC and the ports airport etc. But those are the only reasons.

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  24. D-FENS says:

    Hillary is uglier. That’s the difference.

  25. 3b says:

    Like I said because of the ports and proximity to NYC. There are skilled workforces all over the country. Does not matter because NJ Wil screw it up and won’t get it.

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, this is why north jersey wins hands down. It’s a means of getting nyc access, while keeping costs down. We are the cheaper alternative to nyc, but I don’t know for how much longer. I expect the northeast nj area to eventually become one giant extension of nyc. You already see what’s happening on the gold coast. Prices going dramatically higher, and this will only spread as this economy grows even stronger in time.

    This is epicenter of economic activity in the entire world.

    Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn’t Tom Brady says:
    October 5, 2017 at 9:49 am
    Amazon is wrestling with two significant and competing overarching metrics: the need to be near talent and hubs, and the need to keep costs down. So I expect them to go to that metropolitan area that offers them the most in concessions

  27. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Keep telling yourself that. You live in a bubble. You really think most of America is like northeast nj, and you are dead wrong.

    “There are skilled workforces all over the country. “

  28. 3b says:

    Only the ignorant would say the rest of the country does not have skilled workforces.

  29. Ottoman says:

    Jared’s man pvssy will likely be in high demand in whichever NY state penitentiary he ends up in.

    D-FENS says:
    October 5, 2017 at 10:06 am
    Hillary is uglier. That’s the difference.

  30. Ottoman says:

    If you count coal mining and heroin addiction as skills, then yes.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 10:19 am
    Only the ignorant would say the rest of the country does not have skilled workforces.

  31. 3b says:

    Typical liberal arrogance everybody outside of this area are ignorant meth heads. Guess we should just close down all the universities and colleges outside the tri state area as the rest of the people of this country are barbarians.

  32. grim says:

    You mean meth addiction, not heroin.

    Opiates are for rich white kids in snooty suburbs, meth is for the rest of America, especially around Utah.

    Why else is there such outrage against it now? Can’t have our best and whitest taken from us prematurely. Oh wait, I mean brightest.

  33. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps,

    I think many metropolitan areas of 1 million or more people are similar to north jersey. The big exception being people in those areas are unwilling to pay 655k to live on a highway

  34. Bystander says:

    Dufus, you realize this was not an Amazon sponsored survey, just opinion. One ride on NJT by Bezos and he will cross NJ off the list.

  35. The Great Pumpkin says:

    We are speaking in generalizations. Yes, you can find highly skilled individuals in any state or town in America. The question is though, if I bring my business to this area, will there be enough highly skilled workers to support my business….for most of the country, the answer is hell no. Do you understand how highly skilled and educated north jersey is? You can’t survive here if you are not highly skilled or poor. There is no middle class here anymore, only rich and poor. Poor service the rich, and the rich service the highly skilled business model. This applies to the entire northeast region along the coast. It also applies high cost of living areas along the west coast. Middle class are the individuals that are moving from these high cost areas, unfortunately they are being squeezed by both the rich and poor. The more poor that move to the area, the more they push out the middle class who do not desire to live amongst them as the schools and area degrade. The rich push them out with outrageous pricing in nice neighborhoods.

    This is what you have been witnessing in these areas over the past 30 years.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 10:19 am
    Only the ignorant would say the rest of the country does not have skilled workforces.

  36. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    Shouldn’t be long before the likes of Otto and Moana claim Kushner wasn’t born here.

  37. 3b says:

    Amazon is not relying on one specific area to support their business. What a stupid comment.

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Who do you think feeds those college systems? They would fall under without out of state students.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 10:30 am
    Typical liberal arrogance everybody outside of this area are ignorant meth heads. Guess we should just close down all the universities and colleges outside the tri state area as the rest of the people of this country are barbarians.

  39. 3b says:

    Yep NJ transit stuck outside Hoboken for fifteen minutes yesterday in the yard. And of course always short a car.

  40. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Keep drinking the hater-ade. Just opinion, right? Negativity prevents you from seeing the light.

    Bystander says:
    October 5, 2017 at 10:44 am
    Dufus, you realize this was not an Amazon sponsored survey, just opinion. One ride on NJT by Bezos and he will cross NJ off the list.

  41. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They are relying on a highly skilled workforce, do you understand that? 50,000 highly skilled workers, do you know how difficult that is to find?

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 10:53 am
    Amazon is not relying on one specific area to support their business. What a stupid comment.

  42. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Price went up, buddy. No way in hell is someone getting my house for 655k right now. Dream on.

    JJ fanboy says:
    October 5, 2017 at 10:38 am
    Pumps,

    I think many metropolitan areas of 1 million or more people are similar to north jersey. The big exception being people in those areas are unwilling to pay 655k to live on a highway

  43. 3b says:

    The majority of students in most state universities are from within the state or a nearby state. Keep those uninformed comments coming!

  44. Grim says:

    Bezos won’t locate in NJ because he couldn’t handle the massive growth and wild success that would result. It would prove that NJ is smarter than he is.

    That’s really why companies avoid NJ you know, company executives fear they would lose their jobs once the board sees what real talent looks like.

  45. exjersey says:

    There’s no light only tax incentives.

  46. Yo! says:

    Why are home prices growing 8% in New York and 1% to 3% in nearby states? My answer: New York is like California because talented people want to live there.

  47. Yo! says:

    NJ is a middle manager state and this layer of worker is being eliminated forever.

  48. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps

    New Jersey has 8 billionaires, Texas has 48 with 17 of them in the DFW metroplex area.

    But New Jersey is superior at creating wealth and talent right?

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  50. Yo! says:

    Bezos loves NJ because it has lots of people and is near New York City – perfect place for warehouses.

  51. JJ fanboy says:

    Grim

    You need to add a /sarcasm line or pumps will think you’ve converted.

  52. 3b says:

    In international news the Spanish central government has suspended Catalonia s parliament ahead of a declaration of independence this coming Monday. And two convoys of battle trained troops who served in Afghanistan are on their way to Barcelona.

  53. D-FENS says:

    Dammit. Coffee went right through my nose.

    Grim says:
    October 5, 2017 at 11:00 am
    Bezos won’t locate in NJ because he couldn’t handle the massive growth and wild success that would result. It would prove that NJ is smarter than he is.

    That’s really why companies avoid NJ you know, company executives fear they would lose their jobs once the board sees what real talent looks like.

  54. exjersey says:

    Don’t worry once Bezo’s sees the Vig to live/work in Jersey he’ll laugh and move to Maryland.

  55. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    I hate being usurped by the general population.

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b, explain this? I’m just making it up, right? I said, right?

    “The reality is there are fewer students from Kansas attending any college and far fewer international students studying in the United States,” Bosco said. “It’s a perfect demographic storm. Our market share within the state has been steady, but the pool of Kansas high school students pursuing any secondary education continues to shrink.”

    http://cjonline.com/state-government/news/education/2017-09-28/kansas-public-university-enrollment-dips-k-state-takes-4

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are too young to have this kind of mindset. Don’t be like that, you are better than that.

    Grim says:
    October 5, 2017 at 11:00 am
    Bezos won’t locate in NJ because he couldn’t handle the massive growth and wild success that would result. It would prove that NJ is smarter than he is.

    That’s really why companies avoid NJ you know, company executives fear they would lose their jobs once the board sees what real talent looks like.

  58. 3b says:

    I did not point to a specific example but rather made a general statement as opposed to your statement which you deemed to be fact.

  59. 3b says:

    And to add further to the original stupid comment. So NJ students flock out of state to go to state universities where overall they are surrounded by in state students who are the product of an inferior primary education system. Yeah makes perfect sense.

  60. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How big is texas? How large is their population? Where are all these billionaires located in nj? How many billionaires make up that circle with nyc as the center?

    JJ fanboy says:
    October 5, 2017 at 11:15 am
    Pumps

    New Jersey has 8 billionaires, Texas has 48 with 17 of them in the DFW metroplex area.

    But New Jersey is superior at creating wealth and talent right?

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I can’t win with you. You are right, everyone is highly skilled everywhere. No difference between areas of the country in terms of education and skills. You are right, nj doesn’t have a superior k-12 education system, it’s all made up.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 11:56 am
    And to add further to the original stupid comment. So NJ students flock out of state to go to state universities where overall they are surrounded by in state students who are the product of an inferior primary education system. Yeah makes perfect sense.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    JJ fanboy,

    Listen, Texas will become just like the west coast and the northeast in the dallas and austin area. They are already there in some neighborhoods in terms of pricing and job opportunity. So just know that you fled a high cost area to a place that wants to be a high cost area like the northeast and cali. The huge population boom will eventually cause the taxes to rise significantly when the population growth is no longer there to keep costs in check. It’s easier to keep taxes down and provide all these great schools with a growing population, but what happens when the growing population ends, and the costs come due on a stagnant or falling population?

    So I don’t know why you rag on nj when you moved to a place that is trying to be like nj. I just don’t get it.

  63. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps,

    The DFW metroplex has 7.1 million people and 17 billionaires

    New Jersey has 8.9 million people but only 8 billionaires

    Texas has 27 million people and 48 billionaires. texas, especially the dallas Fort Worth area seems to be more efficient at creating billionaires and wealth than New Jersey

  64. 3b says:

    I never said everyone throughout the country was highly skilled or that all areas of the country contained highly skilled workers. What I did say was that there are highly skilled work forces throughout the country. So Mr Bezos were he to make his selection simply on that one issue he has other areas to chose from. I also never said that NJs school systems were bad. But the one you went to must be bad as you lack reading comprehension skills.

  65. 3b says:

    JJ fan boy yeah but some of those billionaires might wear 10 gallon hats and say y all. I mean who would want to live next to them!!

  66. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Think about development in jersey, why does no one want new residential development? It’s great at first (town is flushed with new cash), but what happens down the road when the costs come due? What exactly do you think is happening to Texas on a massive scale?

  67. JJ fanboy says:

    3b,

    Even worse than the hats and y’all is the fact that the middle class towns aren’t segregated like the ones in New Jersey. The progressives would have a fit.

  68. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    Wow, is this place getting dumber by the minute.

  69. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps,

    No one wants development in Jersey because of the increased population those wonderful schools would have. Most New Jersey schools are older than almost every regular poster on this board. The cost to expand and retrofit a 60 year old school or acquire enough land to build a new one in nj must be mind blowing.

  70. 3b says:

    Isn’t NJ s population growing? Just saying.

  71. 3b says:

    Stu dumb people are people too and have the right to be dumb!

  72. 3b says:

    JJ fanboy as long as the progressives have Consuela doing the house cleaning then they feel good about themselves. They just don’t want Consuela living next to them.

  73. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    “Stu dumb people are people too and have the right to be dumb!”

    Sorry. My bad.

  74. 3b says:

    Stu it’s ok. And even grim got dumb today with his comment about Amazon/Bezos and NJ I mean how dumb was that!!!

  75. Yo! says:

    3b – NJ population is growing but at slowest pace since records began in late 1700s. NJ will hit 9 million in next year or two. Hudson County driving growth. Many NJ counties shrinking.

  76. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They don’t want development because it increases cost in the long term. It’s not only schools. It’s everything. Dallas built this all up on empty land, and that’s the easy part. There are no more cheap empty lots in commuting distance. What happens next? When they have to upgrade their old infrastructure, what happens? What happens when people moving there for low cost, no longer find themselves in a low cost location? How will they be any different than any of the high cost locations that Texans fled?

    JJ fanboy says:
    October 5, 2017 at 12:20 pm
    Pumps,

    No one wants development in Jersey because of the increased population those wonderful schools would have. Most New Jersey schools are older than almost every regular poster on this board. The cost to expand and retrofit a 60 year old school or acquire enough land to build a new one in nj must be mind blowing.

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s the position I have always stated on this board. If you want high paying jobs, unless you get lucky, you have to live in a high cost of living area.

    It defies logic to have a “low cost of area” that pays “high salaries.” Just think about it logically, how can an area pay high salaries and at the same time be low cost? Just how? It defies logic. It’s impossible to maintain a low cost area that pays high salaries long term……simply impossible based on the economics.

  78. 3b says:

    Well if Dallas infrastructure is new or relatively new and is maintained then infrastructure is not a current concern as opposed to NJ where it is falling apart.

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    But somehow 3b equates this logic with me stating that high taxes attract the wealthy. No, the wealthy attract high taxes, it’s as simple as that. It can’t be low cost and high paying at the same damn time.

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  82. 3b says:

    Is that in the bible ? High taxes attract the wealthy? It’s getting dumber and dumber in here.

  83. 3b says:

    Well we all know he is a moron. And so is Hillary more polished and deceitful of course but still a moron. And we are all morons if we believe one moron is better than another moron.

  84. JJ fanboy says:

    I thought the wealthy attracted models. My bad

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Opposite, Einstein.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 1:19 pm
    Is that in the bible ? High taxes attract the wealthy? It’s getting dumber and dumber in here.

  86. 3b says:

    So is that in the bible?

  87. 3b says:

    Einstein? No I am dumb!! Dumb the dumb dumb!!

  88. JJ fanboy says:

    I m dum. d u m dum

  89. 3b says:

    JJ fan Can you do me a favor and see if anyone in the DFW area is from outside the area specifically outside the state? I need to know if they might have come for potential job opportunities or are they all natives? I can’t imagine anyone from say the NYC area would want to move there for some job opportunity. And I need it by COB. Oh and as they say in Texas much obliged.

  90. 3b says:

    I was fixin to say that y all!!

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Dallas is north jersey 30 years ago, why can’t you grasp this?

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 12:59 pm
    Well if Dallas infrastructure is new or relatively new and is maintained then infrastructure is not a current concern as opposed to NJ where it is falling apart.

  92. 3b says:

    Maybe Dallas won’t fu@k it up like Jersey did. But of course y all can’t even accept that could be the case cause them ums are stupid., But they are mighty nice people!!

  93. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps,

    Just because big hair is still popular here, does not make dfw north jersey 30 years ago

  94. JJ fanboy says:

    3b

    It is amazing how many out of state license plates we see at our kids schools. I guess all those people couldn’t make it in their areas. Or maybe they were transferred or offered a new job

  95. 3b says:

    Did y all know Goldman has a big presence in Dallas and I ain’t talkin bout no back office jobs. Can y all imagine that Gol man employees Texas two steppin in Dallas. Well bless my grits!

  96. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b, are just messing with me? You have to be trolling me. Can’t be this naive.

    “Deficit in Dallas: How One of the Fastest-Growing U.S. Cities Ended Up With Billions in Debt
    The city has created a huge problem for itself — one so big that bankruptcy isn’t off the table.”

    http://www.governing.com/topics/finance/gov-deficit-dallas.html

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 1:47 pm
    Maybe Dallas won’t fu@k it up like Jersey did. But of course y all can’t even accept that could be the case cause them ums are stupid., But they are mighty nice people!!

  97. Steamturd, Part Time Orientalist and Full Time Mysoginist says:

    Someone has to open the mail.

  98. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Real goldman players are in nyc metro area.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 1:50 pm
    Did y all know Goldman has a big presence in Dallas and I ain’t talkin bout no back office jobs. Can y all imagine that Gol man employees Texas two steppin in Dallas. Well bless my grits!

  99. Alex says:

    Pumps,

    Article from NJSpotlight “New Jersey’s coming college enrollment crisis”

    “New Jersey will experience about a 20 percent decline in the number of high school graduates through 2030…”

  100. 3b says:

    Didin I just tell you boy that these ain’t no back office jobs. We be talkin bout structured finance/IB jobs fella! Y all gonna tell me I don’t know what am I talkin bout? My whole career on the street boy. Ya know you accuse me and some of my older pardners here of being old mindset. Yet I am the one that understands the world is changin Son. You are stuck in some time warp of an NJ hey day. It’s over best y all accept that.

  101. exjersey says:

    California is now a Sanctuary State. How bout dat?

  102. exjersey says:

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  103. exjersey says:

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  104. 3b says:

    Never said Dallas did not have problems boy. Hopefully they will fix them. Not ignore them like NJ. And you do know the Dallas problem was specifically over one area. In NJ we got problems in multiple areas.

  105. 3b says:

    Yeah as long as they ain’t living in Newport Beach or Malibu.

  106. JJ fanboy says:

    Exjersey,

    Bulls, not chickens. Chickens are in Arkansas

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  111. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are def trolling me. Every time I prove you wrong, it’s your famous line over and over again. You did not say that, and I have reading comprehension issues. You are insane. I sit there and waste time putting your bs to rest, and then when I prove you wrong, you claim you never stated that.

    3b=mindless troll.

    Why nobody gives you sh!t for the ignorant statements that you post is beyond me. You must be expat under another name just trolling me. Everyone else prob knows, and I’m the fool for going back and forth with mr. ignorant.

    Btw, the finance jobs in utah or Texas are not on the level of nyc. That just proves you are trolling me with bs.

    3b says:
    October 5, 2017 at 2:08 pm
    Never said Dallas did not have problems boy. Hopefully they will fix them. Not ignore them like NJ. And you do know the Dallas problem was specifically over one area. In NJ we got problems in multiple areas.

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Handling that explosive growth in population, right? I’m the dumb dumb. Keep telling yourself that.

    “For decades, the farmland that used to dominate Collin County’s landscape was routinely paved over and replaced with tony neighborhoods, well-manicured corporate campuses and bustling shopping centers.

    The county’s population and business explosion has been among the shiniest of jewels in North Texas’ economic development crown. But the millions of people and jobs expected to keep coming now threaten the economic vitality that’s attracting them.

    Collin County’s highway and road system, which is already stressed in some corridors, is “totally inadequate” to handle the expected growth, county officials say. And they are sounding that alarm as they scramble to contain what some see as a traffic time bomb that many people aren’t aware is about to explode.

    “I don’t think a lot of people realize how far behind we are in terms of longer-term strategic planning in the county,” County Commissioner Duncan Webb said. “My fear is if we can’t get a handle on our congestion issues, it will get so bad here in Collin County that people will stop wanting to live here and have their businesses here.””

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/transportation/2016/08/12/collin-county-growth-creating-traffic-time-bomb-officials-say-get-moving

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Like I told jj fanboy, sell into the heard now, or be left with problems that make jersey’s look like nothing. This is what happens when you don’t regulate huge development. Just let the developers do whatever they want. It will end well in the face of massive population growth.

  114. Chi says:

    Why would Goldman Sachs have an office in Dallas? Houston is podunk town and the other reason sounds like “boil honey”. Remember they do UHNW wealth management too.

  115. 3b says:

    I am not trolling you. In fact I am officially ignoring you. However if you respond to my posts which I asked you not to I will respond in turn. So again if you don’t comment on my posts I won’t find the need to respond. And for the record I am not ex pat. And you have proved nothing that I said as wrong today absolutely nothing. However you did prove me right on reading comprehension. I posted Dallas Goldman IB jobs. You come back with Utah and Texas. I said specifically Dallas and in the case of the Goldman jobs they most certainly are. That is a verified fact period. So yeah you do have a reading comprehension problem. Now if you ignore my posts and just skip over them like I asked then we will be fine.

  116. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps,

    Jerseys roads were built for its current population?

  117. 3b says:

    Chi GS has had a p w m presence in Houston and Dallas for years. In addition as I said large IB structured finance activities there in addition to whole sale banking activities.

  118. 3b says:

    They also had a p w m office in Memphis too of all places. When the partner in charge of the office retired they merged it with the Atlanta office. Amazing how much wealth was in that area too considering Goldman only dealt with the wealthiest of the wealthy. The competition at the time was JC Bradford a big regional player who was deeply involved in the community and there was a lot of loyalty to that firm by the locals. Paine Weber bought the company and ditched the name and ended up destroying the franchise.

  119. ex-Jersey says:

    Here’s the thing, we get to hang out with this guy over lunch:

    http://www.955klos.com/jonesys-jukebox/

  120. chicagofinance says:

    3b – agreed…in order to do O&G IB work you need to have the TX infrastructure…..

  121. chicagofinance says:

    I had a layover in DFW and the was stunned by all the direct flights to Riyadh, Dubai et al…… not to mention the passengers waiting for those flights…..

  122. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps’ daughter: “Daddy – why does foam come out of your mouth when you type real fast?”

  123. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    “Daddy – can I go outside and watch that rushing hour again? I think the red cars go the fastest.”

  124. 3b says:

    Dallas is not the backwater that it was once considered. In fact NJ it can be argued perhaps with the exception of the gold coast is becoming the backwater. Simply no plans for the future of the state other than its close to NYC . NYC will most likely always be important but it is not necessarily going to be the only dominant city at least in the world of finance. Goldman is the epitome of the global financial firm now. If they see opportunity or need to be someplace they will go there. And if they can’t find the talent that they need they will get it and the talent will go there. Goldman is not even really an American firm anymore save for the fact the headquarters is in NYC. The majority of the Managing Directors/ Partners are foreign now.

  125. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The great thing about NJ is that it is close to a bunch of other states where you can enjoy yourself.

  126. 3b says:

    Ex I don’t hate NJ and in fact when I moved here it was the far better choice than NYC suburbs. My anger comes from the fact that the powers that be have done so much to destroy the state over the years. I have been yelling about that as you know. Besides being close to NYC we had many other advantages most of those I believe have disappeared. This mantra of we are close to NYC is simply not enough anymore. The world the country whatever is changing and adapting rapidly NJ is being left behind. Yet I am accused of having an old guy mindset because I recognize this.

  127. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I bet a lot people don’t realize that Amazon already has their own defacto delivery infrastructure. My cousin employs 120 drivers just for Amazon delivery out of three Eastern Massachusetts Amazon hubs. She has 2-3 employees stationary at each Amazon location besides the drivers that pick up there. All the vehicles have to be company owned (or leased) and all of the drivers have to be employees of the delivery company(not contractors).

  128. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Here’s the link to Amazon’s delivery program:

    https://logistics.amazon.com/

  129. Juice Box says:

    re: “is simply not enough anymore”

    Cumon 3b they added a new food court to the GSP.

    It gets more like eating out in NYC.

    Garden State Plaza unveils ‘urban-style’ food court

    http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2017/10/garden_state_plaza_unveils_urban-style_food_court_shore_play_area_photos.html

  130. 3b says:

    Juice I saw that looks very similar to what was done at the old world financial center which is now called Brookfield place. The only problem is I don’t think they are going to get the hipster foodie fusion craft beer type people they are hoping for.

  131. 3b says:

    And Juice it’s not a food court ok!! It’s a dining experience.

  132. 3b says:

    Food court is well, so suburban and unsophisticated.

  133. exjersey says:

    I thought they ‘d carry me out of jersey in a pine casket. Shows what i knew.

    Anyone wanna watch a fat movie mogul shower?

  134. Juice Box says:

    re: “I bet a lot people don’t realize that Amazon”

    Amazon lost 70 tons of money in $100 bills shipping all those boxes. 1 billion dollars in 100 dollar bills weighs 20,000 pounds. So they lost 7 Billion dollars or 70 tons of 100 dollar bills shipping all of those boxes.

    Crazy but true..

    https://www.geekwire.com/2017/true-cost-convenience-amazons-annual-shipping-losses-top-7b-first-time/

  135. JJ fanboy says:

    Exjersey,

    That is such a tempting offer, but not the kind of streaming experience I enjoy.

  136. 3b says:

    And that Brookfield place ain’t cheap!! Amazing to see what these millenials types pay for lunch!!

  137. 3b says:

    Lots of ultra high end stores there too along with the WTC. I never see people in any of them. It’s almost like its high price advertising and nothing more. The Bonobos closed though I wonder if that had to do with Walmart purchasing the company.

  138. dentssdunnigan says:

    wonder if Amazon saw this latest report of outward migration for business ,,,http://www.truthinaccounting.org/news/detail/fleeing-or-flocking

  139. 3b says:

    Interesting that the birth rate is declining. So NJ school taxes should be declining too. Yeah like that will happen!!

  140. SorryToLeave says:

    Hahahahaha… does anyone really think Amazon would pick NJ. Seriously?

  141. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, and I’ll laugh at all the negative opinions when they pick jersey. It’s such an obvious pick.

  142. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yup.

    “Since 1977, U.S. GDP is plus $17T, number in poverty is plus 18 million. The only way that happens is if we meant it to.”

  143. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “after reading “A People’s History of the United States” a few years ago, I realized that we never really lived in a democracy….it has always been an oligarchy with periods of revolt for better treatment of middle and poor classes. Those periods or trends always fluctuated but in almost 250 years the advancements for ALL people just haven’t been there. We are sicker, dumber, and more devolved thanks to the political structure in the last 35 years.”

  144. 3b says:

    Sorry it’s nice to dream about but they will not pick NJ.

  145. Fabius Maximus says:

    1) We are not talking about the secretary of state here.
    No he’s not in the State Department But he and his missus have the equivalent level in the White House!
    2) Did Kushner put classified information on there.
    TDB
    3) Highly doubt there were 50,000 emails.
    The fact there was even one negates the argument
    4) Did he delete them all permanently after claiming he didn’t.
    Irrelevant see point 3)
    5) Does he have a lifetime of service in the public sector where he should have learned better?
    No, but he has two years of DIL saying Lock her up. If you can’t get from that, “it’s not allowed” “Are you that dumb!”
    6) Is he running for POTUS?
    See previous point “Are you that dumb!”
    7) Does he have a foundation where you can clearly pay for favor?
    You are seriously asking that?!
    Shall I go on?
    Please do
    Or should we not give this kid the benefit of the doubt?
    No, Why?
    When Kushner runs, then you can properly bring this up.
    Sorry, laughing too hard! At best having seen what happened to Hillary, you have to ask, Why would he (and all the others do this). At best incompetence at worst entitlement.

  146. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Of course Amazon will pick NJ. They’ll choose it for the high wage inflation and the high local speed limits.

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