Wrong way people

From Newsweek:

WHY ARE PEOPLE LEAVING CITIES? U.S. MAYORS BLAME HOUSING COSTS

Mayors across the United States say that housing costs are the biggest reason that people are moving away from cities, according to a new survey released Tuesday. According to the Menino Survey of Mayors, 51 percent of leaders in 115 cities said housing affordability is the most common reason that people move away from cities, followed by jobs, schools and public safety concerns.

A dismal 13 percent of mayors said the current housing stock fits the needs of their city constituents “well” or “extremely well.” Both mayors of expensive and inexpensive cities, with populations of over 75,000, shared concerns about low housing stock, according to the survey conducted by the Boston University Initiative on Cities.

Maxwell Palmer, assistant professor of political science at Boston University and one of the three principal investigators in the survey, told Newsweek that the consensus from mayors about housing stock is significant because “usually we think of the affordable housing crisis as a coastal problem, but it’s really a problem around the country.”

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58 Responses to Wrong way people

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. grim says:

    A little translation for color:

    The pre-gentrification resident population of a city is now finding it unaffordable to live in that same city post-gentrification.

  3. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The answer just came to me:

    You can’t be a Democrat politician if you have an income over $150K per year.

    Wouldn’t that just completely fix everything? Maybe we’d need something else like you are not allowed to even hold a Democrat fundraiser if your income is over $900K ?

  4. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    testing for blacklist, please ignore:

    A little translation for color:

    The pre-gentrification resident population of a city is now finding it unaffordable to live in that same city post-gentrification.

  5. nwnj says:

    I would be surprised to see a 7.5% drop. That’s a huge number to many. 3-4% is a big number for someone who bought within the last year or two. With commissions upon selling they start out of the gate 10% down on their purchase.

    It will be interesting though, it gives us an idea of how much the typical American has been subsidizing the big gov largesse in places like NJ.

  6. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Section 8 vaulted ceiling housing. I mentioned this long ago.

    A little translation for color:

    The pre-gentrification resident population of a city is now finding it unaffordable to live in that same city post-gentrification.

  7. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    It doesn’t seem like you can post any form of the word for a McDonald’s version of a three car garage house.

  8. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    You can’t be a Democrat politician if you have an income over $150K per year.

    The definition of congress member is someone who makes $174k a year but somehow becomes a multimillionaire.

  9. grim says:

    God damn, that was an inadvertent blacklist match.

    McMansion is out again.

    How was that blacklisted for years? I bet you that was the one that drove everyone crazy.

  10. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Has anyone been to New Britain, CT lately?

    I used to go there for work, two jobs ago, just a few times, about a dozen years ago. Stanley, now Stanley Black & Decker, used to own that town. The first time I went there (Stanley was actually my client) I didn’t really notice anything, I was paying attention probably to my Mapquest printed directions. The next couple times I went there I noticed these beautiful, but bombed out, brick buildings. I couldn’t believe there was anyplace in not-too-far-from-NYC New England that looked like that. As it was 2006 or 2007, I was looking at these buildings and thinking, “Why aren’t those condos?”

    I never knew there were “factory towns” in the close Northeast, but that’s what happened. Tens of thousands of Stanley workers used to have shift workers pour out of multiple locations and go to pizza parlors (who says that anymore?) and shoemakers (and that too?). Apparently, they never recovered. I remember when they tried to pull out of New Britain completely and become a Cayman Islands company long before my experience there.

    It just struck me as strange to have what looked like a Central PA ex-prominent city right in the heart of Connecticut.

  11. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^Especially living in Boston. My mind just wasn’t set for big, poor, cities that are closer to NYC than Boston.

  12. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Maybe this explains it;-)

    The city’s official nickname is the “Hardware City” because of its history as a manufacturing center and as the headquarters of Stanley Black & Decker. Because of its large Polish population, the city is often playfully referred to as “New Britski.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Britain,_Connecticut

  13. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Speaking of Mapquest, I’ve owed a personal computer since the early 1980’s. None of that PC early crap, my first one was a Dec Professional, PDP-11 architecture with a Unix clone OS. I never saw the reason to own a printer until about 1996. In 1996, living in Long Island, I found Mapquest. Then I realized that I couldn’t bring the directions with me unless I wrote them out on paper. Went out shortly after and bought an OkiData LED printer.

  14. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Nowadays, my wife and kids print, I don’t (unless I have to sign and scan something).

  15. Fast Eddie says:

    Congress needs to fully reinstate the SALT deduction, but New Jersey residents also need to recognize they can reduce their tax burden if they would embrace consolidating police departments and school districts, and if they put an end to six-figure payouts for unused vacation and sick time to retiring public employees. And while they are at it, they should pressure the Legislature and governor to pass and sign legislation reinstating the 2 percent arbitration cap on police and firefighter salaries.

    When do the violent protests begin?

  16. Libturd says:

    I decided to try the train again today. Someone call the mental hospital.

  17. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    grim – Probably what drove everyone crazy was that even McM@nsion didn’t work. So then you tried other words, etc., etc.,

    God damn, that was an inadvertent blacklist match.

    McMansion is out again.

    How was that blacklisted for years? I bet you that was the one that drove everyone crazy.

  18. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    LOL!

    btw, it’s not the train, it’s the salary job. Give that up and everything gets nice real quick.

    I decided to try the train again today. Someone call the mental hospital.

  19. Yo! says:

    NJ Expat – Central Falls, Rhode Island. A lot worse than New Britain. CF is majority white city with lower incomes and higher child poverty than than Newark. CF most depressed city in New England by far and nobody has heard of it.

  20. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    yo – Exactly correct. I had to google it. I mistakenly thought for years that the Boston-NYC corridor was pretty much OK. I thought you had to go way up to Maine or West to Central PA to see that stuff. It’s kind of interesting that I thought that when I fully knew about Newark, Irvington, Camden, Trenton while growing up in NJ. I guess I just thought that the other states were better than that.

    NJ Expat – Central Falls, Rhode Island. A lot worse than New Britain. CF is majority white city with lower incomes and higher child poverty than than Newark. CF most depressed city in New England by far and nobody has heard of it.

  21. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Do you know what I just thought? Isn’t it nice and pleasant here when Pumpkin doesn’t show up early?

  22. No One says:

    Libturd: re NJ transit I read this yesterday
    http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2018/01/opinion_what_could_be_the_big_reveals_from_an_nj_t.html

    What happened? An audit should reveal answers that NJ Transit has been reluctant to provide and say why its trains had the second-worst breakdown record in the country in 2016. Buses also ranked sixth worst for breakdowns in 2015.

  23. No One says:

    grim,
    Can you put the word “pumpkin” on the blacklist?

  24. D-FENS says:

    @JustEric
    21h21 hours ago

    I doubted the “11th school shooting” claim because, well, who wouldn’t? It sounds ridiculous. So I started digging.

    First one I found (and I’m not making this up), was a school bus window shot out…with a BB gun.

    I stopped digging after that. These people are clowns.

  25. D-FENS says:

    “Why are people leaving cities?”

    Isn’t this what people have always done? Rich move to the cities, and middle class move to the suburbs.

  26. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Lib – Were you talking about your older kid yesterday? That was me. Send him to Judo classes. Just a little Tai Otoshi and O Goshi goes a long way. You don’t ever attack your oppressor, rather, you use his energy against you to his own anguish. I don’t ever remember using the moves against anyone ouside of Judo class, but I think the confidence that I had those moves “chambered” gave me a new stance amongst my peers. Your son is a very good student. I skipped 6th grade because of my great grades (and the unrest I created in the classroom, despite my small size at the time). The year before I skipped a grade I was vanquished to the back of the classroom with a sixth grade math book to teach myself while the rest of my class learned fifth grad math. I know what it’s like.

  27. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    Yes…the younger kid is still learning to speak, but has really started accelerating lately (thank goodness).

  28. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    (rubbing hands and imagining myself as a Simpsons character): Eggselent!

    Yes…the younger kid is still learning to speak, but has really started accelerating lately (thank goodness).

  29. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BTW, I just didn’t happen into Judo class. My parents sensed that I was being bullied and that was what they came up with. I used to take classes on the second floor above the main drag shops in Dover, NJ.

  30. A Home Buyer says:

    D-FENS,

    In Chronological Order if the 11 school shootings:

    Suicide In school parking Lot after multi hour 911 call,

    Two random shots fired around a school area

    Man fires BB gun at school bus, breaking window

    One random shot fired breaking school window. No injuries.

    A student confused a training weapon vs a practice weapon during a training session at school

    14 year old student suicide

    Gang shootout on school parking lot involving 3 non-students.

    Following an Argument, a 21 year student was shot in sorority event.

    16yr Male student shot 15yr female student. No deaths, female student in “good spirits” per huff post

    Drive By shooting in parking lot, 1 student injured.

    15 year old mass shooter, killing 2 and injuring 18

  31. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    My Judo teacher used to tell me about the “sleeper hold” where you choke your opponent until he passes out. He told me that he was afraid of it until his Sen Sei did it to him three times in a row. I was always afraid about getting to that stage in my studies.

  32. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    I’m not sure if I ever shared my bully-defeating story with the group here. This happened on the school bus. This turd brain 6th grader was a real big kid and muscular too. He was known to bloody kids in most of his fights. Well one day in 5th grade, when I was riding the bus home from school. He trips me as I’m walking down the aisle of the bus to get off. I of course dropped everything and was so pissed off that as I got up to turn around to try to fight for myself, the back of my head hit his front teeth really hard. I know I cracked one of them and there was lots of blood. I even needed stitches to close up the hole in my head. But he never bothered me again. I was a big kid too, but really quite wimpy. Whenever I was goaded into scraps, I would always throw my opponent to the ground and then lay on top of them holding their arms. If they got out, I would just throw them to the ground again. Like I said, I was wimpy.

  33. No One says:

    This is the sort of stuff leftist men write about these days.
    Basically how to become the opposite of JJ
    https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/1/24/16925444/aziz-ansari-me-too-feminism-consent
    ” I’ve changed my behavior in bed. I try to let go of penetrative sex as a goal.”

  34. Fast Eddie says:

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Starbucks Corp will use some of the savings from the new U.S. corporate tax cuts to give domestic employees pay raises, company stock and expanded benefits with a combined worth of more than $250 million, the company said on Wednesday.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/corrected-starbucks-boost-pay-benefits-161303422.html

    Better pay and benefits based on the Trump tax cuts. Where are the snowflakes going to go now when their favorite hangout has betrayed them? Isn’t SBUX the rendezvous point, ground zero for the p.ussy protesters and budding hipsters?

  35. D-FENS says:

    Just don’t give customers straws

    http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article195416459.html

    Fast Eddie says:
    January 25, 2018 at 12:25 pm
    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Starbucks Corp will use some of the savings from the new U.S. corporate tax cuts to give domestic employees pay raises, company stock and expanded benefits with a combined worth of more than $250 million, the company said on Wednesday.

  36. Juice Box says:

    We are #1.

    “New Jersey once again claimed the infamous honor of leading the nation in foreclosures in 2017.

    But that’s largely because foreclosures take longer to play out in New Jersey, and there are signs things are definitely improving.

    Nearly 70,000 properties went through the foreclosure process in the state last year, according to a new report from ATTOM Data Solutions, a real estate data firm. That’s far from the rest of the nation, which is experiencing 12-year lows, according to the report.”

    “More than half of all New Jersey properties in foreclosure were first mortgaged between 2004 and 2008. Blomquist said those loans are the most likely to default.”

    http://www.nj.com/data/2018/01/foreclosure_rates_in_all_21_counties_rankeddddddd.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

  37. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Shopping for a car in PA. 3 different salesman made color comments about our Nazi state. High taxes, we want to take all their guns, and we can’t tint the back windows.

  38. chicagofinance says:

    Isn’t Willimantic the heroin warehouse/distribution center for NE. The I-395 corridor is called heroin highway……

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    January 25, 2018 at 10:15 am
    yo – Exactly correct. I had to google it. I mistakenly thought for years that the Boston-NYC corridor was pretty much OK. I thought you had to go way up to Maine or West to Central PA to see that stuff. It’s kind of interesting that I thought that when I fully knew about Newark, Irvington, Camden, Trenton while growing up in NJ. I guess I just thought that the other states were better than that.

  39. leftwing says:

    “First one I found (and I’m not making this up), was a school bus window shot out…with a BB gun.”

    Don’t forget in the PPNJ a BB is legally the equivalent of an AK-47……

  40. joyce says:

    “The bill … seeks to placate the Trump administration’s concerns. For example, by specifying that employers may not use the visa with intent to substitute an American worker.”
    http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/25/technology/hatch-flake-h1b-bill/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom
    LOL. Pretty sure the existing program already has that provision.

  41. Bystander says:

    Pat,

    I don’t head to Hartford much except for occasional concert but not surprised. CT cities are mostly rotting piles of shit. Did you know that New Haven nor Hartford nor Stamford are not even largest city in the state? That honor goes to Bridgeport which is beyond decrepit and poor, save a few areas by water. Hope and dream are all on Hartford which has since had it’s a$$ kicked by JC, Nashville and a host of places that have taken their banking jobs.

  42. Ottoman says:

    “CF most depressed city in New England by far and nobody has heard of it“

    That’s because it’s the geographical size of Fanwood. Next door Pawtucket which was just as historically depressed is filling up with luxury lofts.

  43. hobojoe says:

    I work in New Britain every weekend. It was bad enough when Fafnir left. Stanley was the second of the one-two punch to the community. Incidentally, they are tearing down those Stanley buildings to ensure they’re never put to a productive use again. It’s actually rather sad – so much of the community has such deep ties to Stanley and spent their lives in those buildings. Also, years ago a small part of the far east end of the Stanley complex was turned into the Constructive Workshops facility – it was cleaned up and is really a beautiful, functioning brick factory building. Too bad the mayor rolled over and let Stanley just tear it all down. You will never see buildings like that again.

  44. 3b says:

    Chgo well would you like that. Obama posing with an advowed racist who has deep hatred of whites. Ironic considering Obama is of mixed race.

  45. Fabius Maximus says:

    CNN: Trump tried to fire Mueller
    MSNBC: Trump tried to fire Mueller
    Fox News: Here’s a photo of Obama and Farrakhan from 2005
    https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/956704273596854272

    Give me a Benghaz1 for old times sake!

  46. Fabius Maximus says:

    Small business at work.

    http://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/Guest-worker-crisis-worries-landscaping-industry-12505169.php

    “A lot of our customers would grow their business significantly if they had access to labor,” he said.

  47. 3b says:

    Fab fair point. I suspect however if it was the other side out would be all over that photo. That’s my problem with you who identify as liberals.

  48. joyce says:

    Tell them to raise the offering price and watch labor appear… it’s like magic.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    January 25, 2018 at 8:58 pm
    Small business at work.

    http://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/Guest-worker-crisis-worries-landscaping-industry-12505169.php

    “A lot of our customers would grow their business significantly if they had access to labor,” he said.

  49. 3b says:

    Should have said outrage over photo if it was other side.

  50. D-FENS says:

    I kinda like Lois Farrakhan

  51. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, best economic boom of our lifetime.

    “The growth will continue and the growth will continue at a rapid pace,” Michael Bapis, managing director of The Bapis Group at HighTower Advisors, told CNBC’s “Trading Nation” on Wednesday. “The expansion that’s happening there is rapid, once in a lifetime and we think it’s going to continue.””

  52. The Great Pumpkin says:

    China’s stock market is on a ‘once in a lifetime’ kind of rally – CNBC

  53. William Wallace says:

    http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ssf/2018/01/hold_murphy_shows_up_at_church_that_houses_immigra.html

    Gov. Murphy races to sanctuary church after ICE detains 2 in N.J.

    Gov. Phil Murphy on Thursday rushed to a church that has provided sanctuary for [illegals] after two Indonesians were arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and a third sought refuge in the church.

    Gunawan Liem, of Franklin Park, and Roby Sanger, of Metuchen, were detained as they dropped their kids off at school Thursday morning, said Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale of the Reformed Church of Highland Park.

    At the church, which has been housing [illegals] for years, the governor met with others who have taken up sanctuary there, including one who avoided detention by not answering his door.

    “We obviously have to put our heads together and figure this out,” Murphy told a crowd gathered at the church.

    “It’s not our country, it’s not our values, it’s not the country you came to to escape persecution,” he later said.

  54. Juice Box says:

    Ice should do a road block on Navisink road and Route 35. They would easily pick up a bus load of day laborers working at Phil’s house.

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