Jobs Day!

From Yahoo Finance:

July jobs report expected to show hiring slowed while unemployment rate ticked higher

The July jobs report is expected to show hiring slowed during the month while the unemployment rate moved higher. The data’s release will come as investors closely watch for any further signs of slowing in the US labor market amid growing debate over when the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates next.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics data is slated for release at 8:30 a.m. ET on Friday. Economists expect nonfarm payrolls to have risen by 105,000 in July and the unemployment rate to have moved up to 4.2%, according to consensus estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

In June, the US economy added 147,000 jobs. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate fell to 4.1%.

Here are the key numbers Wall Street is expecting Friday, according to data from Bloomberg:

  • Nonfarm payrolls: +105,000 vs. +147,000 in June
  • Unemployment rate: 4.2% vs. 4.1%
  • Average hourly earnings, month over month: +0.3% vs. +0.2%
  • Average hourly earnings, year over year: +3.8% vs. +3.7%
  • Average weekly hours worked: 34.2 vs. 34.2

“In our view, the labor market is moderating rather than deteriorating,” BofA US economist Shruti Mishra wrote in a note to clients. “Elevated inflation should still keep the Fed on hold.”

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96 Responses to Jobs Day!

  1. VSG says:

    I’ll be heading to Côte d’Azur for a couple of weeks to summer.

  2. Very Stable Genius says:

    The economy is in terrible shape. GDP is 1/2 of what it was same period last year.
    Only driver is hundreds of billions of micro soft, google, meta spending on Nvidia chips.

    “The July jobs report is expected to show hiring slowed during the month”

  3. VSG says:

    Tariffs are inflationary. Fed won’t lower rates.

    I’ll send you a postcard from Côte d’Azur

    Au revoir!

  4. grim says:

    Back down on LBI, thought the drive down yesterday was going to be a nightmare, but really didn’t hit much rain at all, and the traffic at 6pm was far lighter than I’d expected. Little over 2 hours, not bad.

    Sadly, in the time between last weekend and now, I did not make the requisite $2m to purchase a beach shack here.

  5. Chad Powers says:

    VSG,
    The economy must not be that bad. You’re going on a foreign vacation to an expensive area. Sounds more like happy days are here again!

  6. Fast Eddie says:

    I’ll be heading to Côte d’Azur for a couple of weeks to summer.

    Theodore, Bitsy, how lovely! We’ll be ‘summering’ in Portofino at ‘La Casa Padronale’. You absolutely cannot beat the caprese skewers while sipping a bellini.

  7. 3b says:

    We will be heading to Cascais Portugal again next week. Much to Fab’s disappointment we will not be staying at a Holiday Inn Express, or anything similar.

  8. BRT says:

    I was in LBI last weekend visiting family who live there. I’ve honestly never understood the allure but to each their own. Usually nightmare traffic to get there. The island is expensive, the food is mediocre, there’s not much to do other than go out on the boat. I’m much happier going to Monmouth County beaches or beaches south of AC.

  9. grim says:

    Yeah depends on where you are, but agree, I can only deal with this for 2 or 3 days.

    Fam has been down here for a couple of weeks and they are in the middle of Beach Haven, about 2 blocks down towards the beach around near Chegg. They walk everywhere, don’t need to drive, plenty of things for the kids to do. Was out this morning for a jog, grabbed some coffee, etc. I’ll be itching to get out of here by Sunday morning.

    Outer banks I felt was completely boring, needed to drive everywhere, basically a highway running down a beach, absolutely nothing “walkable”, even in the most built up areas (Kitty Hawk, etc).

  10. RentL0rd says:

    Heading to Pittsburgh next week in a u-haul. Mission Déménagement 💪

  11. Chicago says:

    Jobs whiff. Ten 429

  12. RentL0rd says:

    Looks like nobody here works much any more, taking fancy vacations. Too rich to work.. Thank god for the immigrants who keep the economy moving.

  13. grim says:

    Nonfarm payroll growth was slower than expected in July and the unemployment rate ticked higher, raising potential trouble signs for the U.S. labor market.

    Job growth totaled 73,000 for the month, above the June total of 14,000 but below even the meager Dow Jones estimate for a gain of 100,000. June and May totals were revised sharply lower, down by a combined 258,000 from previously announced levels.

    At the same time, the unemployment rate rose to 4.2%, in line with the forecast.

    The June total came down from the previously stated 147,000, while the May count fell to just 19,000, revised down by 125,000.

  14. grim says:

    Little bit worse than a whiff.

  15. Juice Box says:

    Click buy buy buy on Amazon Boys….

    Kamala Harris wrote a book called “107 Days”. Here is an excerpt: “My campaign was 107 days. A day is 24 hours. 7 days is a week. There are 365 days in a year. Okay? 12 months in a year. I ran for President for 3 months. Plus some more days. That’s a lot of days.”

    Translation. I am broke and need money and don’t want to go back to working anywhere. Now shut up and send me some FU money.

  16. BRT says:

    oh look…jobs numbers revised down. It’s almost as if they are always wrong. Why would the government ever lie?

  17. 3b says:

    Hard work for years, savvy investments, outside business interests, but plus uber wealthy friends who own beach front property, allows for a wonderful overseas summer vacations. Others spend a whole lot of time on a blog and complain.

  18. Chicago says:

    Ten 426

  19. Juice Box says:

    BRT – The monthly “jobs guess” is based up incomplete data from the CES survey of businesses as part of the Current Employment Statistics (CES) program.

    The revision is based on real tax data. Employers are required to report employee numbers on their quarterly tax reports. The Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages (QCEW) program provides more accurate results…

    https://www.bls.gov/cew/

  20. Chicago says:

    Ten 425

  21. Chicago says:

    Ten 424

  22. Juice Box says:

    3b – you left out good looking and can carry a tune.

  23. Hughesrep says:

    And humble.

  24. 3b says:

    Juice: Yes. Thanks for reminding me. And over 6 feet , and still same weight as my 20’s. Not that I want to brag of course, but just saying.

  25. 3b says:

    Hughes: Yes, very humble, and endearing.

  26. Juice Box says:

    Family members are in Hawaii now and my Boss is off to France with his family for two weeks.. Other coworkers will be at a conference this coming week as well.

    My wife and kids are off this week too, staycation for them, camp and soccer camps etc so no biggie for my kids..Wife is home attempting to annoy me, thankfully my office is close by. Me and the hard working Asian dude who comes to the office to escape his wife too are the only ones in the office today. It’s like a ghost town on August 1st.

    Why am I here working right now? I could be doing any and all of this or that on August 1st, conference or vacation in Hawaii.. or drinking wine in the south of France..

    There is work to be done we are rolling out lots of new AI “infused” products next quarter. I am knee deep in it, hopefully it does not rise to my eyeballs. Off to my meeting with AWS…lots to talk about.

  27. RentL0rd says:

    9:40 – Privilege talking.

    But you will never admit it – suck up to the top and stomp down.

    9:50 – Beautiful outside, ugly to the core. Just like the characters in White Lotus.

  28. ExLAX says:

    U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Ranking Member of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI) released a Minority staff report today unveiling that Elon Musk’s brainchild, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has generated at least $21.7 billion in waste across the federal government between January 20, 2025, and July 18, 2025. The report, “The $21.7 Billion Blunder: Analyzing the Waste Generated by DOGE,” follows a months-long investigation into Elon Musk and DOGE and is the most comprehensive effort to date to quantify taxpayer dollars squandered by DOGE despite its ostensible goal of eliminating government waste.

    “This report is a searing indictment of DOGE’s false claims. At the very same time that the Trump Administration is cutting health care, nutrition assistance, and emergency services in the name of ‘efficiency’ and ‘savings,’ they have enabled DOGE’s reckless waste of at least $21.7 billion dollars,” said Blumenthal. “As my PSI investigation has shown, DOGE was clearly never about efficiency or saving the American taxpayer money. I urge Inspectors General to take up our investigation’s findings and initiate a comprehensive review of DOGE’s careless actions.”

  29. ExLAX says:

    PSI’s comprehensive review of publicly available resources and independent analysis has found that DOGE has generated $21.7 billion in waste so far this year, including:

    $14.8 billion through its Deferred Resignation Program for paying approximately 200,000 employees not to work for up to eight months.

    $6.1 billion for over 100,000 employees who have been involuntarily separated from federal service or who remain on prolonged periods of administrative leave pending separation, many of whom were paid to not do their jobs for weeks or months.

    $263 million in lost interest and fee income at the Department of Energy due to dozens of loan freezes meant to finance key utility projects supporting energy affordability and grid resilience.

    $155 million in time costs to require nearly a million employees to send weekly accomplishment emails to the Office of Personnel Management amounting to millions of hours of wasted time.

    $110 million on food aid and medical supplies spoiling in warehouses, set to be destroyed at a further cost to taxpayers.

    $66 million by underutilizing thousands of professional staff to perform entry-level duties for weeks on end, including over $138,000 for paying scientists to check guests in at national parks.

    $41.8 million to relocate over 250 staff members at one agency closer to a physical office.

    $38 million in sunk costs on unrecoverable investments in science and technology across four projects at the National Institutes of Health and the Internal Revenue Service.

    $1.7 million in time costs to require employees to unnecessarily justify routine expenses at three agencies, including window washing at the Federal Aviation Administration.

  30. NJCoast says:

    Great memories of LBI visiting my grandparents’ home on the bay in the 60’s. Taking the boat to check the minnow traps, clamming, fishing, learning to waterski, learning to sail. Waking to the sound of halyards clanking against their masts and the wooden fishing boats going out to sea. The wharf where the beached schooner Lucy Evelyn was and getting fudge from the Copper Kettle. Walks home from the beach where the soft tarred roads had bubbles from the heat. Having to wash off the tar from the beach from sunken World War 2 boats. Their modest house was destroyed in Sandy replaced by a 3 story manse zestimate $3.8 million.

  31. OC1 says:

    DOGE has generated $21.7 billion in waste so far this year

    Yeah but thousands of african kids will die because of cuts to pepfar and other health programs, so it all will have been worth it!

  32. Very Loose Anus says:

    The Government Accountability Office (GAO) estimates that the federal government lost between $233 billion and $521 billion in 2024 to fraud. In Fiscal Year 2023, the federal government reported an estimated $236 billion in “improper payments,” including overpayments, inaccurate recordkeeping, or even fraud, according to the GAO.

    The federal government owns a vast portfolio of properties, including a significant amount of underused space. This results in substantial annual maintenance and operating costs that exceeded $10.3 billion in Fiscal Year 2023. Deferred maintenance further exacerbates the issue, rising to $370 billion in 2024.

    A Department of Education contract, intended to coordinate Zoom and in-person meetings, was identified as unnecessary and costing $4.6 million before being cancelled.

    Funding for a study on “holistic diversity, equity, and inclusion transformation and training” for the Air Force ($1.9 million) and research on the reproductive health of transgender individuals ($1.6 million).

    Department of Defense cuts: The Department of Defense announced cuts of $580 million in March 2025, bringing the total savings to $800 million since February 2025. These cuts include items like a $6 million grant to decarbonize Navy ships, a $5.2 million grant to diversify the Navy, and a $9 million university grant for developing “equitable AI and machine learning models”.

    2022/2023:
    Aid to illegal migrants: Aiding illegal migrants through resettlement programs, home and car purchases, and loans ($22.6 billion).
    Electric Vehicle Charging Stations: Funding for a few dozen electric vehicle stations across the nation ($7.5 billion).
    Green energy projects: EPA funding for green energy projects that reduce greenhouse gases and promote the adoption of green alternatives nationwide ($7 billion).
    Fraudulent unemployment payments: Issuing fraudulent unemployment payments to tens of thousands of individuals, including those with birthdates in the future, infants, and people listed as 115 years old ($382 million).

    Business loans for minors: Providing business loans for children 11 years old and under ($312 million).
    Services and housing for illegal immigrants: FEMA supplying services and housing for illegal immigrants in New York City ($59 million).
    Projects to reduce greenhouse gas emissions: Funding projects to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in Brazil ($46.5 million).
    Promoting positive youth experience: Funding positive youth experience in Gaza ($35.9 million).

  33. Dark Phoenix says:

    Release the Epstein files.

  34. Juice Box says:

    Coast – I also have similar memories. Growing up my family owned a small home in Toms River on the bayside with a boat slip off Fisher Blvd. We spent many summers there to get out the Bronx for a while. I remeber setting crabbing traps in the lagoon and who could ever forget the rock gravel yards and the fishly salty smell of the bay breezes.

    Houses there also go for $$$ too not as high as LBI.. Our old house came up for sale again 4 years ago, asking was way too high and it did not sell. It is offmarket now and might come up again.. 1000 sq ft home..can’t wait to see what they want for it.

  35. Dark Phoenix says:

    Those “in the know” bought Palantir stock.

  36. 3b says:

    Privledge my ass. Parents were hard working immigrants, worked for everything they had, and savvy too. They passed it down to their children. This radical left privilege crap is destroying this country. These leftists wake up everyday miserable.

  37. Dark Phoenix says:

    It’s been another 24 hrs.

    Is the war over in Ukraine?

    As promised?

    Or did Russia just take another city, and has another one outflanked and ready to fall?

  38. BRT says:

    grim, yeah, I was there in the same area. I have 1 or 2 days max in me as well. I’d never look to get a place there.

  39. White Trash Eddie says:

    These leftists wake up everyday miserable.

    Beyond miserable. They’re left with nothing to cling to, nowhere to turn, no one to rescue them, no ideas to present, no direction home and no cure in sight.

  40. Dark Phoenix says:

    3b says:
    August 1, 2025 at 11:00 am
    They passed it down to their children.

    They hate me ’cause my daddy is rich
    And I’m like, “Goddamn, leave me alone”
    They want me six feet deep in a ditch
    Don’t hate me ’cause my daddy’s rich
    Motherfuckin’ jealous bitch
    Just ’cause my dad’s a record label exec’
    Am I not worthy of your love and respect? (Hey)
    They call me names, I won’t let that shit slide
    They call me nepo baby, I’m not a baby, I am 45
    They say, “Dude, we don’t hate you
    We just think you might’ve had it more easy”, more easy
    But have you thought about how hard it was for me to have it so easy?
    Also, I didn’t, you asshole

  41. ExLAX says:

    11:04 such insights.

  42. ExLAX says:

    11:00 oh no no no. We wake up wondering what the GOP led gubmint will fuck up next.

  43. Dark Phoenix says:

    You don’t know how hard it was to get to the top
    An immigrant, with no money, had to scrub, had to mop (hey)
    Got a degree, all while workin’ six jobs
    That’s what my daddy’s life was like, I assume
    And even though I think this hatin’ on me’s so overblown
    I wish you nothin’ but the best, I hope you’re never alone
    I hope one day you become rich and have a son of your own
    And everybody on the internet diminishes his fuckin’ accomplishments, yeah

  44. 3b says:

    Dark: My Dad worked 12 hours a day sometimes more for 6 days sometimes 7 for years No one gave my parents anything, except a chance. Some Americans have just gotten soft and whiny and wake up everyday miserable, and blaming privilege, or something else.

  45. Dark Phoenix says:

    It’s called the nepo baby song.

    It’s a banger!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6H4EvRQ6-U

  46. ExLAX says:

    11:29 give it a rest Poindexter.

  47. Dark Phoenix says:

    3b

    No fight from me. Just promoting the song. It’s funny as F.

  48. 3b says:

    Ex lax: Right back at you doofus. You are exactly what I am talking about.

  49. RentL0rd says:

    3b, you just don’t get it.

    Your immigrant parents who you despise worked harder than you ever will. And you reap the rewards. Thats the definition of privilege.

  50. Dark Phoenix says:

    Death toll soars in Russian strike on Kyiv; Germany to send air defenses
    Ukrainian officials said a Russian aerial attack was the most deadly on Kyiv this year.

    More sanctions, more bombs.

    I guess someone is getting tired of being sanctioned, doesn’t care, and possibly has a death wish.

    So much for the 24 hr thing.

    300 drones plus ballistic missiles in one night.

    How many interceptors do you need to fire at 300 drones? How much does each one cost compared to a simple drone?

  51. Chicago says:

    My wife’s family has a pair of side by side houses with the gravel, bulkheads and docks in that same neighborhood. I think it is called Shelter Cove.

    I’ll say that the whole Exit 89 on the Parkway scene is kind of stunning, in its scope that is. It is a NNJ retiree blue collar paradise. Even the medical community down there is taking a huge step up. Go to where the customers are. Taxes are much lower. Old people constantly dying, so there is ample turnover in property.

    Juice Box says:
    August 1, 2025 at 10:38 am
    Coast – I also have similar memories. Growing up my family owned a small home in Toms River on the bayside with a boat slip off Fisher Blvd. We spent many summers there to get out the Bronx for a while. I remeber setting crabbing traps in the lagoon and who could ever forget the rock gravel yards and the fishly salty smell of the bay breezes.

    Houses there also go for $$$ too not as high as LBI.. Our old house came up for sale again 4 years ago, asking was way too high and it did not sell. It is offmarket now and might come up again.. 1000 sq ft home..can’t wait to see what they want for it.

  52. 3b says:

    Rent: Don’t ever say that about my parents. Deep love and appreciation for what they gave me and my siblings. It was not privilege, it was the opportunity they gave us, so we did not have to physically work as hard as as they did. The opportunity that all people have in this country, but some just sit around and complain, and blame others. And they were not a bigot and hypocrite like yourself. You talk about privilege and racists, and yet you hate Gay people.

  53. Chicago says:

    Selling LBI way short. Was there for the week that included July 4th. Stayed just a bit further north in Spray Beach, which is quieter. Was in a house that had shaded outdoor decks and a pool. We had a lot of space. The intense sun but the breeze cut the heat. It was disgusting 90’s+ in NJ/NYC, and we were immunized. Did pseudo-working vacation. To be clear, I think I went onto the beach once.

    I guess for someone who travels a lot, you have big expectations for a destination in that “if you bother to go, it better deliver”. For me, my work can get very tunnel visioned and intense, along with my schedule. The LBI the way we set it up allows me to wind down without unplugging. To be clear, the ACME is same as mainland, so ripoff pricing can be avoided if desired. There’s even a Costco in Stafford.

    I guess the fact that I can get there in under and hour takes the range off.

    grim says:
    August 1, 2025 at 8:39 am
    Yeah depends on where you are, but agree, I can only deal with this for 2 or 3 days.

    Fam has been down here for a couple of weeks and they are in the middle of Beach Haven, about 2 blocks down towards the beach around near Chegg. They walk everywhere, don’t need to drive, plenty of things for the kids to do. Was out this morning for a jog, grabbed some coffee, etc. I’ll be itching to get out of here by Sunday morning.

    Outer banks I felt was completely boring, needed to drive everywhere, basically a highway running down a beach, absolutely nothing “walkable”, even in the most built up areas (Kitty Hawk, etc).

  54. Chicago says:

    Range off = edge off

  55. Libturd says:

    How’s your 401K looking? Is it August 1st already?

  56. RentL0rd says:

    *12:06 – * some closet gays

  57. Dark Phoenix says:

    Jeffrey Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, who had been serving a 20-year prison sentence in Florida, has been moved to a federal prison in Texas, according to a source familiar and records from the Bureau of Prisons.

    “We can confirm, Ghislaine Maxwell is in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons (BOP) at the Federal Prison Camp (FPC) Bryan in Bryan, Texas,” BOP spokesperson Donald Murphy said in a statement to CNN.

  58. Hughesrep says:

    It’s a minimum security camp. Club Fed.

    Turns out one of the US citizens returned from Venezuelan is a triple murderer. Apparently were bringing in the rapists and murderers again.

  59. RentL0rd says:

    1:15, do you think it’s a competition to the pedophiles and rapists here?

  60. ExLAX says:

    US President Donald Trump says he has ordered two nuclear submarines to “be positioned in the appropriate regions” in response to “highly provocative” comments by former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.
    In a post on social media, Trump said he acted “just in case these foolish and inflammatory statements are more than just that. Words are very important, and can often lead to unintended consequences, I hope this will not be one of those instances”.
    He did not say where the two submarines were being deployed.
    Medvedev has posted several comments in recent days threatening the US in response to Trump’s ultimatum to Moscow to agree to a ceasefire in Ukraine, or face tough sanctions.

  61. chicagofinance says:

    Ten 423

  62. RentL0rd says:

    One would think the tariffs only affects physical goods. But there are opportunists everywhere.

    Verizon has confirmed it will raise customer fees despite announcing a three-year price lock in April.
    The carrier said the “vast majority” of customers will see increases of “less than 30 cents.” A Reddit thread cited by The Verge suggests the Administrative and Telco Recovery Charge will rise 28 cents to $3.78 per voice line, while data-only plan charges could increase $2.37 to $3.97 per line. The changes may take effect September 1.

  63. RentL0rd says:

    I mentioned voipo.com – that wrongly billed me around $1000 for 20 years of annual subscription.

    As expected they are closing shop now. Voipo.com

    And consumer protection has been flushed down the toilet by orange man.

  64. Juice Box says:

    BRT – I think Trump heard ya!

    President Donald Trump on Friday fired the Bureau of Labor Statistics commissioner, hours after the agency reported that job growth in the U.S. had slowed to a near-halt.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/01/trump-erika-mcentarfer-jobs-report-fired.html

  65. LiesLiesShoudSetYouFree says:

    From NBC News.

    President Donald Trump on Friday ordered the firing of the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, hours after a stunning government report showed that hiring had slowed down significantly over the past three months.
    Taking to Truth Social, he attacked Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the BLS. He claimed that the country’s jobs reports “are being produced by Biden appointee” and ordered his administration to terminate her.
    “We need accurate Jobs Numbers,” Trump wrote. “She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for political purposes.”
    An administration official told NBC News shortly after the post that McEntarfer had indeed been fired.
    It was not immediately clear who would helm the agency. The deputy director of BLS is Bill Wiatrowski, who took up the role during the Obama administration. The official who oversees the office that produces the employment report joined the agency during Trump’s first term.
    The BLS on Friday morning reported that the U.S. economy added just 73,000 jobs in July, well below estimates. It also said it had revised the May and June numbers lower by more than 200,000 jobs combined

  66. 3b says:

    It’s a shame there is anti Gay bigotry on the blog, and from the guy that accuses everyone else of bigotry.

  67. BRT says:

    lol, the real question is, is he firing them for having the numbers wrong or updating them

  68. Juice Box says:

    BRT – He can’t fire Powell so he picked her instead.

  69. RentL0rd says:

    Wouldn’t firing someone make the job loss number worse?

  70. RentL0rd says:

    Fox News: If we don’t report the firing, the Garys and Smalls of the world won’t know!

  71. 3b says:

    BRT: Why have there been such large revisions in the numbers over the last few years. It is a problem with the surveys themselves, or the timeliness of the filings?

  72. Fast Eddie says:

    What model(s) are they using where revisions become bigger than the number initially reported? Who develops those models? Even more, who’s the architects? Perhaps the BLS should be resolved and replaced with a private company who can do the job. It makes you wonder about the state of so many government organizations.

  73. RentL0rd says:

    bbb – are you saying today’s job losses are biden’s fault? Go back to your closet you moron.

  74. Dark Phoenix says:

    Trump orders military to surround South Park. 🤣

  75. 3b says:

    Rent: I never said that you ignorant maggot bigot. Anyone who knows anything about economic data, knows that over the last few years there have been big revisions to the BLS numbers. I noted perhaps it’s the surveys themselves, perhaps timely filings. At no point did I say it was Biden s fault.

    You get more stupid and arrogant with each passing day. And, you just did it again with yet another bigoted Gay comment. Everyone on the blog knows you are a bigot.

  76. chicagofinance says:

    Inexcusable

    LiesLiesShoudSetYouFree says:
    August 1, 2025 at 3:24 pm
    From NBC News.

    President Donald Trump on Friday ordered the firing of the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, hours after a stunning government report showed that hiring had slowed down significantly over the past three months.
    Taking to Truth Social, he attacked Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the BLS. He claimed that the country’s jobs reports “are being produced by Biden appointee” and ordered his administration to terminate her.

  77. Juice Box says:

    The BLS monthly jobs survey’s well it’s a dirty job…automated computer driven phone surveys, sending emails asking companies to fill out reports online.

    I can see people ignoring the phone surveys these days and the email going to spam.

    Form looks like this.

    https://www.bls.gov/respondents/ces/forms/service-providing-form-one-pay.pdf

    Only large companies send the data electronically via EDI..

    As far as methodology…it can break anywhere in the collection. They have error checking..

    Here is an overview of how it’s collected and how they check for errors.

    https://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/ces/data.htm

  78. RentL0rd says:

    So Juice, you cannot say that the referee is flawed when you lose. Questioning the referee/ system/ statistics, at this point of time shows how deep up the orange ass you have embedded.

    Focus on the orange elephant in the room. He wants us to look at the system and not him.

  79. No One says:

    Inexcusable, yet many will make up excuses.
    Chairman Mao used to jail or kill people who reported bad news.
    He probably fires the caddies that don’t drop balls on the fairway for him too.

  80. 3b says:

    Chicago: I agree completely. Firing the BLS Commissioner is a stupid ignorant move on Trump’s part. The independence and integrity of the BLS and the Fed, and other agencies that provide economic data for the markets is sacrosanct.

    It is what separates us from so many other countries. Although I am not a Powell fan for a number of reasons I am also against his being removed before his term of office is over. I also support his current stand on not lowering interest rates. As for the BLS we need to find out what is causing these wide revision swings, and determine how the process can be improved. Hopefully, Bessent can sway Trump to change his mind on stacking Mc Entarfer, although I doubt that will happen, and even if it did, she would decline to stay on. That is certainly understandable on her part.

  81. njtownhomer says:

    you don’t need surveys or errors in the BLS. There always were errors. Every statisticians know there are measurement errors, especially in this day and age phone surveys. Who would bitch about the administrators under such pressure from authorities. Go Turkey, survey will show Erdogan 80% support among small businesses. Or go Russia, ask whether they are happy with Putin. Same answer.

    Biden era had errors, this era will have more. Go to Las Vegas shopping/tourism, or go meat market or grocery shopping. You’ll figure out. Soon gas will be more expensive too. Hiring is almost done BTW, new grads good luck. Perhaps this is the time to travel abroad and get expat experience for the youth.

  82. Dark Phoenix says:

    Erase history:

    Trump’s impeachments have been removed from a Smithsonian exhibit.

  83. Dark Phoenix says:

    Gotta get those “Youtes” ready to become soldiers.

    Remember running the mile in school? The Presidential Fitness Test is coming back

  84. ExLAX says:

    Ahhhh found a Five Guys in my new NorCal town.
    Screw In&Out…

  85. BRT says:

    Every government report is always biased through rose-colored glasses. In 2009 the ten year debt projection from the CBO was 9 trillion. Off by a full order of magnitude….

  86. LiesLiesSets YouFree says:

    BTW,

    From Bloomberg. The BLS corrected numbers come from each State Dept of Labor processed unemployment numbers. Those numbers are matched to their time period and are the true numbers as they should be because of people collecting benefits.

    The ADP number which is not as reliable comes from ADP’s own internal numbers as the country’s largest payroll processor.

    We are heading into Chinese territory where government numbers are open lies and the private sector cooks up a variety of ways to find the truth.

  87. Dark Phoenix says:

    plan 2025

    Canada’s US trade minister exits DC as tariff talks stall

  88. Juice Box says:

    Rent – how many times do I have to remind you? Candidate for 107 days is the reason why we are here today.

    You did not complain or criticize the party choice? Whoops no choice there was no election for the candidate.

    Get bent already you are going to have to eat crow For at least another 3 years.

  89. RentL0rd says:

    We are here because America is a misogynic, racist country. The orangeman did not even debate her for America to get a fair opportunity to evaluate candidates. You voted for a known rapist and corrupt snake oil salesman.

    And there are no guarantees he is going to leave in 3 years – he said so hikself.

  90. BRT says:

    Why was there no democratic primary?

  91. Grim says:

    Pravda!

  92. RentL0rd says:

    Was there a Republican candidate debate?

    And it should be slam dunk if a confirmed rapist and insurrectionist and now confirmed pedophile is against any american – except ofcourse it is a woman, a black/mixed woman much less.

    Kamala Harris did not even get a chance.

  93. R3n7L0rd says:

    I heard from a guy who got raided by ICE today.

    First he was totally scared… they had guns and masks on. He was literally shaking when I spoke to him. They barged theough the door and went to his bedroom upstairs. His wife and he are totally spooked.

    Luckily he had all his papers ready. They raided his apartment. This is a guy – both he and his wife living and working legally in the US.

    I recommended a lawyer. Shits too close and real.

  94. Rent says:

    Grammer could be better – for the grammar nazis here

  95. R3n7 says:

    The real scandal isn’t that Donald Trump’s name appears in the Epstein files. Everyone with a functioning brain and an internet connection already assumed that. The man’s long, sordid friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, beauty pageants, private parties, “younger side” quotes, and all, has been public knowledge for decades. What’s breaking through now, like cracks in a dam, is something far more damning:

    The cover-up is the crime. And it runs deeper than anyone imagined.

    Thanks to The Wall Street Journal, we now know what Trump knew and when he knew it. Back in May, Attorney General Pam Bondi and her deputy Todd Blanche, both handpicked loyalists, sat down with Trump in the White House and told him point-blank: his name appears multiple times in the Epstein documents. Not once. Not vaguely. Multiple times.

    Weeks later, the Department of Justice, under Bondi’s leadership, announced it would not release the full Epstein files to the public. This, after Bondi herself had previously boasted that she had “truckloads” of Epstein documents sitting on her desk, ready to be reviewed. Transparency? That evaporated the moment Trump’s name was confirmed in the stack.

    Trump, of course, did what Trump always does: he lied. In July, asked whether Bondi had told him his name appeared in the files, he replied, “No, no,” with all the empty confidence of a man who’s been gaslighting his way out of scandal since the ‘80s. He then pivoted into a word salad about Comey, Obama, Biden, and the “Russia hoax,” trying to drag every past boogeyman into the flames with him.

    But now Bondi and Blanche themselves have confirmed the briefing happened. So the president lied, again, on camera. And then tried to sue The Wall Street Journal for reporting a truth he had already privately acknowledged.

    And that’s just the beginning of the cover-up.

    The DOJ filed a weak, doomed-to-fail motion to unseal grand jury records, knowing full well that their reasoning, “public interest” wouldn’t meet the legal threshold. Judge Robin Rosenberg rejected it, correctly noting that the DOJ hadn’t attached the request to an active judicial proceeding. In other words, they wanted the appearance of transparency without the risk of actual disclosure.

    Meanwhile, Maxwell’s legal team has entered the chat, opposing the release of those same transcripts while simultaneously negotiating with the DOJ in a possible bid for clemency. Her lawyer even released a statement thanking Trump for his “commitment to uncovering the truth,” which might be the most shamelessly transactional quote of the decade.

    But Bondi’s fingerprints on this mess go back further than her recent U-turn. As Florida’s attorney general during the fallout from Epstein’s original non-prosecution agreement, she never lifted a finger to challenge the 2008 deal that let Epstein walk with a wrist slap. That infamous arrangement, negotiated by then–U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, let Epstein plead guilty to state charges, serve just 13 months (with work release), and secured federal immunity not only for Epstein but for any unnamed “co-conspirators.” Bondi’s office, fully aware of the sweetheart terms, declined to pursue any state-level challenge. Years later, she joined Trump’s administration as AG, the same Trump who rewarded Acosta with a Cabinet post during his first term, naming him Labor Secretary. The message was clear: protect the predator, and you’ll be promoted.

    And let’s not forget who just got fired: Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey and a key prosecutor in the Epstein and Maxwell cases. Coincidence? Sure. Just like it’s a coincidence that the DOJ’s memo now insists Epstein had no “client list,” no conspiracy, and definitely wasn’t murdered, while key evidence remains sealed and new court filings are deliberately designed to go nowhere.

    And then there’s the now-infamous Sharpie birthday letter to Epstein, where Trump allegedly drew a naked woman and signed his name below the waist. Trump insists it’s not his “language,” even though he’s been caught on video using the word “enigma” (a key term from the letter) repeatedly. And never mind that this is the same man who once bragged about walking in on teenage girls changing at his pageants, because of course he doesn’t doodle.

    This isn’t just about Trump being in the files. It’s about the staggering number of high-ranking officials, media figures, judges, and legal enablers willing to twist themselves into knots to make sure no one ever sees what’s in those files. It’s about the sudden walkbacks, the contradictory statements, the theatrical lawsuits, the sleight-of-hand filings. It’s about how this machine of power, not just political, but cultural, financial, and judicial, is circling the wagons around a man whose connection to Epstein is not just alleged, but documented.

    The public backlash is growing, even among Trump’s own base. The same MAGA faithful who once flooded message boards with conspiracy theories about Epstein and the “client list” are now grappling with the reality that their guy may be the one holding the match over the pile of sealed documents. Elon Musk said as much. So did Sean Hannity, in his own passive-aggressive Fox News way. But the truth keeps coming.

    And still, the walls hold, for now.

    This isn’t just about protecting Trump, it’s about protecting the system that let Epstein thrive. The donors. The CEOs. The foreign royalty. The financiers. The judges. The enablers. The media figures who knew but didn’t say. The government officials who sat on files. The ones who showed up to the parties, cashed the checks, and looked the other way.

    It was never about one man. It’s about the network that feeds off secrecy, silence, and the calculated degradation of the vulnerable. The only thing worse than what Trump might’ve done is the cold, coordinated effort to keep the public from ever knowing.

    So yes, Trump’s name is in the Epstein files. But that’s not the biggest bombshell.

    The real story is how many people in high places were willing to burn down truth, law, and decency to keep it hidden.

    follow me at marygeddry.substack.com and @magixarc.bsky.social

    #EpsteinFiles #PamBondi #AlexAcosta #DOJ

  96. bob says:

    I left NNJ 10 years ago almost to the month. Sold our house. Kid quit the swim team. Job moved me to Asia – the Philippines.

    I thought you all were nuts. Turns out, you guys are a lot more sane and normal than what’s out there in America. And I do mean that genuinely and affectionately.

    Credits to Grim for this community.

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