Why take a cut of a few transactions when you can get a cut of all transactions?

From CNBC:

FTC sues Zillow and Redfin, alleging antitrust violation in online rental listings

The Federal Trade Commission is suing real estate giants Zillow and Redfin, alleging the two illegally conspired to reduce competition in the online multifamily rental listing market, the agency said Tuesday. 

In the complaint, the FTC alleges the companies violated federal antitrust laws earlier this year when Zillow paid Redfin $100 million to essentially re-host Zillow multifamily rental listings on Redfin and its sites.

Zillow- and Redfin-owned platforms such as Zillow Rentals and Rent.com are used by millions of Americans searching for their next home, the FTC said.

As part of the arrangement, the agency said Redfin agreed to terminate contracts with its existing advertising customers and assisted Zillow in acquiring that business. Redfin also committed to staying out of the multifamily advertising market for up to nine years and reduce its role to merely syndicating Zillow’s listings, making Redfin’s sites virtually identical to Zillow’s.

The FTC also alleges Redfin fired hundreds of employees shortly after the deal was signed and then helped Zillow selectively rehire many of them. 

“Paying off a competitor to stop competing against you is a violation of federal antitrust laws,” said Daniel Guarnera, director of the FTC’s bureau of competition, in a statement. “Zillow paid millions of dollars to eliminate Redfin as an independent competitor in an already concentrated advertising market—one that’s critical for renters, property managers, and the health of the overall U.S. housing market.”

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100 Responses to Why take a cut of a few transactions when you can get a cut of all transactions?

  1. grim says:

    Idiots forgot to tell Trump they would rebrand the service as “TrumpRentals.com”, and pay him the requisite licensing fee.

  2. Chad Powers says:

    Looks like the shutdown will actually happen. Should be interesting.

  3. Dark Phoenix says:

    Cranford comments:

    “The x boyfriend was stalking the one girl and saw them and ran them over there thats the big investigation !!!! Has nothing do with e bikes or anything else.”

    “Someone on another post said the family is claiming someone stole his car and it wasn’t him”

    “OUT ON BAIL? After killing two people? What’s the minimum body count? 3? 5?.”

    “SO wildly convenient that the person who “stole” his car happens to hit and kill the girls he has been stalking for months who got a restraining order on him. Yeah no one stole that car no matter what the police try to lead us to believe”

    “Hope no blue line BS.”

    “the law failed another woman because the suspect had a relation to someone in the police department. What b*******.”

    ” I just saw in the Cranford group that he was streaming on social media, no remorse, not a single tear, he even talks about video games on his video while talking about the event. This is sick, I can’t believe”

    “his uncle is the chief of police in Westfield and father also a police officer! I heard he has been released without even bail! Absolutely disgusting the New Jersey State Police should take this case over due to conflicts of interest in the county and surrounding towns. These girls and their families need justice and society needs this kid locked up for the rest of his life.”

    “her parents reported the stalking many times nothing was done to stop it”

    “My heart goes out o to all the families but honestly I pray and Hope that his father honors the oath he took as a police officer and hands over the kid to be charged.”

    “Beautiful young women stopped in the prime of their life. The memories live forever. The lives that will never be lived The future that will never be seen. Someone took that away And if they are your family you will never get that back. I only pray you hold your memories deep in your heart. It will take all your strength and belief in your higher power to guide you through this unimaginable. Most devastating loss”

    https://www.youtube.com/live/Xbs2Lm2DRAI

  4. Dark Phoenix says:

    “murica.

  5. Dark Phoenix says:

    Who put a 1L Ford Ecoboost in to be the engine running America?

    Government shutdown begins after federal funding expires
    Significant parts of the federal government are shuttered. President Donald Trump has warned that he’ll fire federal employees.

  6. Dark Phoenix says:

    Air Traffic Controllers not getting paid.

    Yeah, that sounds safe to me.

    As if those poor dudes don’t get enough stress.

    While the fat cats in charge still collect a check.

    All of this over something the rest of the world gives it’s citizens, no healthcare for Americans, but money for Argentina, Ukraine, and our buddies and friends all over the world who have their hands out waiting for a check from Uncle Sam.

  7. Dark Phoenix says:

    Does the shutdown cause ICE to melt, or do they still get paid?

  8. Chad Powers says:

    Dark Phoenix,
    Shutdowns are always about political theater. The problem this time is that the Democrats don’t have any leverage. Lots of people getting fired is also a concern. Not sure if Schumer is playing this one very smart. He probably feels forced to do it by the pressure of the far left. Figures AOC can likely beat him like a drum if she decides to challenge him for his Senate seat. He has to show he can fight regardless of the result.

  9. Dark Phoenix says:

    Mexicans using robots to create babies. American women don’t want them anymore.

    MEXICO CITY — When she walked into an IVF clinic in June, Alin Quintana knew it would be the last time she would try to conceive a child. She had prepared herself spiritually and mentally for the visit: She had traveled to a nearby state to leave prayer ribbons at a shrine dedicated to Mary Undoer of Knots, a manifestation beloved in Latin America. She had received a blessing from her priest. That morning, as Quintana and her husband wound their way for hours from the unpaved outskirts of the Mexican capital toward the swanky clinic in one of its richest neighborhoods, her mind was alert, as if she were making a recording. She was focusing on the moment, she said, to drown out the weight of painful memories — a lost pregnancy, a burst fallopian tube, emergency surgery, 96 monthly cycles of hope and crushing disappointment.

    But now she was ready to be part of a generational experiment: A robot would create her baby.

  10. VSG says:

    BREAKING NEWS!

    LIVE UPDATES
    UPDATED WED, OCT 1 2025
    6:36 AM EDT

    Dow futures fall 200 points after U.S. government shuts down: Live updates
    Pia Singh

  11. Dark Phoenix says:

    Dark Phoenix,
    Shutdowns are always about political theater. The problem this time is that the Democrats don’t have any leverage. Lots of people getting fired is also a concern.

    The democrats aren’t firing anyone. Those people could be furloughed temporarily.
    One person is threatening to fire.

    Everyone complaining government is bloated anyway, why are we suddenly concerned when we are cutting back then?

    What about the check America wrote Argentina? Money that could have gone to air traffic controllers, or fixing up state parks, or to injured American veterans?

    If I lost a limb fighting for my country and then been told to pound salt, I wouldn’t be happy. I’m surprised more of them don’t lose their shit completely.

  12. Dark Phoenix says:

    Release the Epstein files.

    We know all of your names are in there.

    Where are the hackers when you need them?

    Well, since now Cyber Security is shut down as well, maybe some of those pocket protector guys can get those Epstein files for us that Trump promised he would.

    That would be a hoot!

  13. Fast Eddie says:

    Shiny metals appear to have gone beyond hedge to speculation. I have a small shit pile of 90% junk silver… not enough to buy a Mercedes but perhaps a weekend trip. Ha.

    There used to talk about glod and sliver on this forum, before we turned into a psychiatric center, I don’t know if any experts remain.

  14. VSG says:

    “ The last government shutdown was when Donald Trump was President.

    It cost the American people $11 BILLION.

    Almost like there’s a pattern here.”

  15. Dark Phoenix says:

    Please Mr Goverment,

    My “Primary” cough, cough, home sunk into the ocean. It’s worth 5 million.

    Can you please extort money from the average taxpayer and make me whole?

    It will only cost 20 million to build today after tarriffs, and to be brought up to code.

    The thought of not being able to get up in the morning and watch the sunrise from my waterfront deck is giving me nightmares, I just can’t live like this. I feel so “common” now living in my “non-primary” home inland. It’s not the life I wanted.

    Please get that money for me. The stress of thinking I might have to dip into my savings and pay for it myself is just too much for me to bear.

    Thank you and God bless.

    More Outer Banks homes fall into the sea as Humberto, Imelda churn offshore
    After five homes collapsed Tuesday, officials warned more collapses are possible in the coming days.

  16. VSG says:

    For you guys Hate is easy, but Governing is hard

  17. VSG says:

    In September 2013,

    Donald Trump said the president should always get the blame if there is a government shutdown because the problem starts from the top and the leader is the problem.

  18. Dark Phoenix says:

    Eddie

    For you.

    r/Bullion

    This is where the guys who hang out in their basement counting coins hang out.
    It’s probably a good place to get you the answer you need if you want to invest.

  19. Dark Phoenix says:

    What comes next?
    You’ve been freed
    Do you know how hard it is to lead?
    You’re on your own
    Awesome, wow!
    Do you have a clue what happens now?
    Oceans rise, empires fall
    It’s much harder when it’s all your call
    All alone, across the sea
    When your people say they hate you, don’t come crawling back to me

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERYukmba5Vg

  20. Chad Powers says:

    Fast Eddie,
    Wow! GOLD is heading towards $4,000. Happy days are here again! I‘m not buying but do have some Gold Sovereigns and American Eagles stashed away for hard economic times.

  21. Dark Phoenix says:

    The rappers are really happy about gold prices as well.

    The chains, the grilles.

    Turned out to be very good investments.

  22. Fast Eddie says:

    Chad,

    Yeah, I never thought of metals as an investment. It’s linear, generally moves at a snail’s pace and is basically a collectible. Interesting though to see the steady incline on metals overall. In the 80s, there was a run on silver, people were selling Grandma’s dinner sets and stripping anything with content. The madness of crowds!

  23. Dark Phoenix says:

    The Houthi’s go Dutch.

    Houthi rebels hit a Dutch ship with a missile, setting it ablaze.

    Cost of shipping will continue to rise.

    Oh well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A33ZRgF9biY

  24. Chad Powers says:

    Fast Eddie,
    I think I read about that silver run. Something to do with the Hunt (?) brothers buying up lots of silver I think.

  25. Dark Phoenix says:

    Jesus’s greatest miracle was having 12 close friends in his 30s.

    My man was turning water into wine for free. He would fit right in in Berlin.

    Well, one of his friends brought him to the cross.

  26. 3b says:

    Dark: Those brave Houthi s destroying a cargo ship, from the comfort of their own home. And what exactly will that do to further their cause, whatever it is.

  27. VSG says:

    Learning so much from US Gary and his twin German Gary discussion on precious metals

  28. VSG says:

    Private payrolls declined in September by 32,000 in key ADP report coming amid shutdown data blackout

    PUBLISHED WED, OCT 1 2025
    8:15 AM EDT

  29. Dark Phoenix says:

    Just wait till Senior Trump decides he is going to seize all of the gold in America.

    Fun fact: It’s happened before. History repeats itself.

    “The more you know”

    Executive Order 6102 is an executive order signed on April 5, 1933, by US President Franklin D. Roosevelt forbidding “the hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States”. The executive order was made under the authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, as amended by the Emergency Banking Relief Act in March 1933.

    At the time and in the years that followed, this policy was highly controversial[1] and faced criticism from those who asserted it was “completely immoral” and “a flagrant violation of the solemn promises made in the Gold Standard Act of 1900” and promises made to purchasers of Liberty and Victory Loans during World War I.[2][3] The critics also claimed this executive order would lead to an inflation of supply of credit and currency, which would cause a fraudulent economic boom which would inevitably bust and result in a depression.[4]

    In 1934, the Gold Reserve Act was passed, changing the statutory gold content of the U.S. Dollar from $20.67 to $35 an ounce. This effectively devalued the dollar, reducing the amount of gold required to back U.S. Currency and enabling the Federal Reserve to expand the money supply.[5]

    The limitation on gold ownership in the United States was repealed after President Gerald Ford signed the International Development Association Appropriations Act of 1975, a rider to which legalized private ownership of gold coins, bars, and certificates, and that went into effect December 31, 1974.[6][7]

  30. Fast Eddie says:

    Yes, the Hunt brothers.

    “The “Hunt brothers” refers to Nelson Bunker and William Herbert Hunt, oil tycoons who attempted to corner the silver market in the late 1970s and early 1980s. They amassed vast quantities of silver, causing its price to surge dramatically, before the market crashed on Silver Thursday (March 27, 1980), bankrupting them and causing billions in losses.”

  31. 3b says:

    According to the WSJ the furloughed government workers will not be receiving back pay when the government reopens. In past government shut downs they did. It’s always the little guy that gets hurt

  32. Chad Powers says:

    3b,
    That is a bad deal if they don’t get paid while furloughed like in the past. Everyone has bills to pay and this shutdown could last a while.

  33. Chad Powers says:

    Dark Phoenix,
    I assure you that the US government won‘t have access to my GOLD. They‘ll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

  34. No One says:

    Regulators won’t be happy until the rental market goes back to 30 years ago when there were 3 printed rental/apartment listing magazines with phone numbers and a map, and half of the apartments are already off the market by the time you call them. It sucked but it was “competitive” and nobody was making much money from it, so nobody to go after. And real estate agents hate helping rental-seekers because they hardly get paid relative to the time it takes them. Meanwhile Zillow and Redfin make it infinitely easier for people to actually find rentals, and drive huge progress in efficiency and ease. But anti-capitalist bureaucrats have to justify their existence by attacking companies that actually do something, without conforming to their theoretical model that all commerce is supposed to work like the corn market.

  35. Boomer Remover says:

    Drove to EWR yesterday to do Global Entry interviews with the family. I wanted to do this before the shutdown in case they were furloughed.

  36. No One says:

    Chad,
    Don’t forget that the incompetent yet tyrannical FDR issued order 6102 requiring people to hand over nearly all their gold to the government.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

    Trump shares some of FDR’s background and behaviors. An extremely overconfident and unprincipled former blundering businessman who didn’t mind breaking the constitution and making up laws on the spur of the moment to suit his whims.

  37. Jason says:

    For VSG, a government shutdown just means that for the time being, he won’t be paid for doing nothing.

  38. Chicago says:

    Ten 409

  39. Mister says:

    9:36 Jason, eat a fat dick. K bitch??

  40. Dark Phoenix says:

    Chad Powers says:
    October 1, 2025 at 9:21 am
    Dark Phoenix,
    I assure you that the US government won‘t have access to my GOLD. They‘ll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

    Well that has happened as well before.

    It’s all established past history.

  41. Dark Phoenix says:

    NY’ers are panicking and looking at buying in Westchester.

    Westchester agents see a “Mamdani effect,” while one Manhattan-based realtor tells Fortune she’s “never seen this type of reaction to a mayor.”

  42. Dark Phoenix says:

    All I hear is wind noise as the Engine of America has shut down and it’s losing altitude.

    Please follow the instrutions the stewardess explained to you earlier.

    Assume crash position.

  43. 3b says:

    Dark: Silly so called educated NY ers voting for Mamdani , the fraud who has never had a real job.
    You would think they would have learned from the disaster of the Di Blasion administration.

    Mamdani and the radical leftists/democratic socialists whatever they call themselves don’t care about the everyday people they just hate rich people.

  44. VSG says:

    LIVE UPDATES!

    UPDATED WED, OCT 1 2025
    10:19 AM EDT

    S&P 500 falls on fears of drawn-out shutdown that hurts economy: Live updates
    Sean Conlon
    Pia Singh

  45. No One says:

    “They do not want to own your fortune, they want you to lose it; they do not want to succeed, they want you to fail; they do not want to live, they want you to die; they desire nothing, they hate existence, and they keep running, each trying not to learn that the object of his hatred is himself . . . . They are the essence of evil, they, those anti-living objects who seek, by devouring the world, to fill the selfless zero of their soul. It is not your wealth that they’re after. Theirs is a conspiracy against the mind, which means: against life and man.”

  46. VSG says:

    Fun Fact:

    The longest government shutdown in U.S. history lasted 35 days, from December 22, 2018, to January 25, 2019, during President Donald Trump’s administration.

  47. Jim says:

    Back to Breaking News
    US stocks set more records as Wall Street’s relentless rally keeps rolling
    23:52:00 PM ET, 09/21/2025 – Associated Press

    NEW YORK (AP) — The seemingly relentless rally on Wall Street drove U.S. stocks to more records on Monday.

    The S&P 500 rose 0.4% after erasing a modest loss from the morning. The Dow Jones Industrial Average added 66 points, or 0.1%, and the Nasdaq composite climbed 0.7%. It’s the third straight day where all three indexes set an all-time high.

    “Every time the market seems to be running out of momentum, it fools most of us by pushing to higher heights,” said Jay Woods, chief market strategist at Freedom Capital Markets.

    A familiar face was again the strongest force lifting the market, Nvidia. Wall Street’s most valuable company rose 3.9% after announcing a partnership to train and run OpenAI’s next generation of artificial-intelligence models. As part of the deal, Nvidia will invest up to $100 billion in OpenAI.

  48. Mister says:

    Hey Jim you flaming bag of dog shit. Don’t you have a pedophile to shill for ?
    No jobs reports should be a good thing for the fat cheeto fuck, am I right??? Cause jobs are down down down, you stupid football faggot.

  49. Chad Powers says:

    Some nutjob set a house fire and laid booby-traps down in Munich which closed down the Oktoberfest. The booby-traps were handgranades with trip wires. There was a hand written note alluding to the Oktoberfest. Apparently he blew himself up. What kind of sick individual would disrupt a beer festival?

  50. Dark Phoenix says:

    What kind of sick individual would disrupt a beer festival?

    Someone who had a family member killed by a drunk driver perhaps?

  51. 3b says:

    Chad: I understand the Munich October fest is reopening now after the police conducted a security sweep. It is sad, this is the world we live in, here and there.

  52. Jim says:

    Mister says:
    October 1, 2025 at 11:03 am
    Hey Jim you flaming bag of dog shit. Don’t you have a pedophile to shill for ?
    No jobs reports should be a good thing for the fat cheeto fuck, am I right??? Cause jobs are down down down, you stupid football faggot.

    Essex you are the biggest a-hole that I have never met, try and grow up, Being an angry failure stoned on dope all the time is not anything to brag about. Your an absolute simpleton.

  53. Dark Phoenix says:

    Maybe America should get an AI President.

    Artificial intelligence might be better than no intelligence.

    Only one way to find out.

    We could have the Democrats, the Republicans, and the Artificial Intelligents.

  54. White Trash Eddie says:

    NY’ers are panicking and looking at buying in Westchester.

    Westchester agents see a “Mamdani effect,” while one Manhattan-based realtor tells Fortune she’s “never seen this type of reaction to a mayor.”

    I can’t wait to see the fallout from this guy’s election. It’ll be a scene ripe for Snake Plitkin. What’ll be worse though, the commun1st getting elected or the disappointment that his followers were duped?

  55. Dark Phoenix says:

    Germans are going to need to drink when they get the bill for American LNG to heat their home this winter after losing their jobs at BMW and Mercedes.

    Don’t think the Swiss are going to need German labor much longer either.

    All that defense spending there is going to take a bite out of the Cheese/Wurst budget as well.

  56. White Trash Eddie says:

    Indices all green.

    LOL.

  57. Dark Phoenix says:

    The Swiss were interesting. They used to say they would let Germans come in to work there, but insisted on sending them home at the end of the day.

    I guess that would be as if America let Mexican migrants come and pick vegetables, then make them take a bus back across the border by sundown.

    Without all of that customs bull shite of course.

  58. Dark Phoenix says:

    Bad Bunny doing the Super Bowl this year.

    At least their won’t be no “nip slips” or “wardrobe malfunctions” to worry about.

    Could some “class” be returning to American football perhaps?

  59. 3b says:

    Dark: Germany’s defenses spending is increasing from 2.0 to 2.4 percent of GDP. I think they should be able to handle that.

  60. Fast Eddie says:

    DP,

    I’m aware of the bullion sites and such. I’m looking for the financial perspective. Bullion nuts are just super optimistic and swear that shiny metals will/always outperform stocks. Not happening. Now, if the rise in metals is an indication of how bad inflation became under the O’Biden regime, then the price levels are on par. It’s open to debate.

  61. 3b says:

    Dark: Can the AI’s be our 3rd party? I mean look what we have had over the years, young Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, more Trump, cause people could not vote for Harris, Schumer, AOC, Greene, Crocket, Mamdani, and many more.

    I say we turn it over to the AI ‘s.

  62. Dark Phoenix says:

    3b

    I agree.
    Let the robots decide the future of Americans.

    I guess that’s what the founding fathers intended. 😂

  63. Dark Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    Can’t hurt to take a look at the site, I don’t think everyone on there is so bullish that they want to go broke.

    I find I learn from all sorts of people and all sorts of places, both good and bad.

  64. Dark Phoenix says:

    3b,
    Your good. Until your not.

    February 19, 2025

    Germany’s economy has gone from engine to anchor. Here’s what the next chancellor faces.

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/germanys-economy-has-gone-from-engine-to-anchor/

  65. njtownhomer says:

    fast,

    I was buying coins from costco regularly, it was more stable under Biden’s regime, Went bezerk on the OrangeTurd. Went from 3200 to 4000 in less than a year.

    Gold and Silver have more ways to go, other Pall’s will follow, they lag behind.

    Own the consequences of tax cuts and giveaways, Trump regime devalued dollar much more.

    How this and shutdown would play in the governors election this Nov. I was thinking 50/50 chance before seeing this idiot below

    ”’
    Jack Ciattarelli’s Lt Gov nominee on tonight’s debate:
    “All taxes are on the table…but not for millionaires”
    ”’

  66. Fast Eddie says:

    njtownhomer,

    If you’re going to realize any value gained with the coins, you need to hold for a really long time. I would say, pass on to your heirs when you’re old and gray. Only major coin dealers are going to make serious money.

  67. 3b says:

    As per an article in the NY Post ,JP Morgan employs more workers in Texas now than they do in New York. And away from JP Morgan, there are now more jobs in the banking sector as a whole than there are in New York.

  68. Chicago says:

    Back office. Bottom line. Where is the revenue generated.

    3b says:
    October 1, 2025 at 12:31 pm
    As per an article in the NY Post ,JP Morgan employs more workers in Texas now than they do in New York. And away from JP Morgan, there are now more jobs in the banking sector as a whole than there are in New York.

  69. njtownhomer says:

    I don’t think any coins will be getting sold soon. Dollar is just gonna go down further with these clowns

    S&P 500 Returns (2001-2025)
    Cumulative return (nominal): 641.7%
    Annualized return (nominal): 8.5% per year
    Inflation-adjusted return: 306.6% (5.9% per year)

    Gold Returns (2001-2025)
    Cumulative return (nominal): 1,075%
    Annualized return: 10.9% per year

  70. Dark Phoenix says:

    Ezekiel 23:20

    For you religious folks.

  71. Dark Phoenix says:

    What goes up must come down
    Spinning Wheel got to go ’round
    Talkin’ ’bout your troubles
    It’s a cryin’ sin
    Ride a painted pony
    Let the Spinning Wheel spin

  72. Chicago says:

    What is this quoting? It’s brilliant.

    No One says:
    October 1, 2025 at 10:31 am
    “They do not want to own your fortune, they want you to lose it; they do not want to succeed, they want you to fail; they do not want to live, they want you to die; they desire nothing, they hate existence, and they keep running, each trying not to learn that the object of his hatred is himself . . . . They are the essence of evil, they, those anti-living objects who seek, by devouring the world, to fill the selfless zero of their soul. It is not your wealth that they’re after. Theirs is a conspiracy against the mind, which means: against life and man.”

  73. Dark Phoenix says:

    Milburn Drysdale still working for JP Morgan?

  74. Dark Phoenix says:

    Chicago says:
    October 1, 2025 at 12:38 pm
    What is this quoting? It’s brilliant.

    Umm, Ayn Rand.

    I think I read that in 8th grade.
    Some things stick with ya’

  75. Chicago says:

    Over/under on his pants ripping open to expose his schlong a La Lenny Kravitz?

    Dark Phoenix says:
    October 1, 2025 at 11:50 am
    Bad Bunny doing the Super Bowl this year.

    At least their won’t be no “nip slips” or “wardrobe malfunctions” to worry about.

    Could some “class” be returning to American football perhaps?

  76. Fast Eddie says:

    Investment: Initial $ (Jan 1990) Final $ (Oct 2025) Total Return

    S&P 500 (with dividends) $10,000 ≈$380,259 ≈3,703% ≈10.6%
    Gold $10,000 ≈$89,000 ≈790% ≈6.4%

  77. No One says:

    Chi,
    Read “Atlas Shrugged” and the full context of that quote hits like a sledgehammer.

  78. Fast Eddie says:

    Investment: Initial $ (Jan 2010) Final $ (Oct 2025 Estimate) Total Return

    S&P 500 (with dividends) $10,000 ≈$75,545 ≈655% ≈14.2%
    Gold $10,000 ≈$38,000 ≈280% ≈8.9%

  79. Fast Eddie says:

    Investment Initial $ (Jan 1940) Final $ (Oct 2025 Estimate) Total Return

    S&P 500 (with dividends) $10,000 ≈$86,000,000 ≈860,000% ≈10.7%
    Gold $10,000 ≈$1,088,000 ≈10,780% ≈5.8%

  80. White Trash Eddie says:

    “Atlas Shrugged” is one of the most accurate snapshots into the recesses of a liberal’s mind.

    Liberals don’t want to help you, they want you to feel more pain than they feel.

  81. Dark Phoenix says:

    Read “Atlas Shrugged” and the full context of that quote hits like a sledgehammer.

    It sure does.

  82. Dark Phoenix says:

    Musk.

    Don’t even hear that name much anymore.
    Ever since his minions had full access to government files.

    He still breathing?

  83. No One says:

    Eddie,
    I wish the debate was against old fashioned “liberals” who used to populate the left. While often wrong, they retained some respect for reason. Folks like Christopher Hitchens, nowadays I’d put Bill Maher in that camp. The real trouble is with the illiberal left, who advocate emotion over reason, and who call everything they disagree with as either “hate speech” or “misinformation” that the state must squash. There’s also a rising tide of illiberal, anti-enlightenment right. In the past that was dominated by the bible thumpers, but under Trump there’s a new anti-intellectual intellectual tide that yearns to steer the government leviathan to their purposes rather than restrain its power.
    Ayn Rand argued against both of those camps on the left and right.

  84. VSG says:

    Opposition to the Welfare State:
    Ayn Rand’s philosophy, Objectivism, advocated for individual rights and a free-market economy, opposing government programs like welfare, Social Security, and Medicare, which she viewed as forms of forced redistribution

  85. VSG says:

    More than Objectivism, Hypocrisy is your main philosophy.
    Y’all enrolled in welfare, Social Security and Medicare

  86. Dark Phoenix says:

    Isn’t welfare something you give to someone else when they haven’t worked for it, like money given to other countries? Isn’t money given to Ukraine, Argentina, and all the others that take from America a form of welfare?

  87. Mister says:

    $18B in infrastructure projects put on hold today.

  88. Mister says:

    So much fun watching the faux news fuckboy embarrass himself on a national stage.

    Most unfit leadership … ever.

  89. Mister says:

    1:30 money is control.

  90. Dark Phoenix says:

    The VDMA has real political clout, and their annual conference, “the German Mechanical Engineering Summit,” has become a must-go-to event for German leaders. Just the day before, Germany’s chancellor, Friedrich Merz, had spoken there. Before he gave his speech, Merz listened as the president of the VDMA said their companies are “angry and disappointed” over the miserable state of the German manufacturing industry.

    “Pretty much every statistic that we have is going in the wrong direction right now,” Richtberg told me when we met up at the conference. Exports are nose-diving. Job cuts and furloughs are mounting. In the past six months alone, production is down 4.5 percent. It’s part of a multi-year slump. The VDMA is now ringing the alarm bells that something big needs to change.

    Germany is facing an economic crisis.

    Economic growth has sputtered for more than five years, and its world-famous manufacturing sector is in deep trouble. There are several causes of the crisis, including the higher price of energy in the wake of Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine and the effects of U.S. tariffs.

    But there’s an even bigger shock beginning to hit the German economy, and it’s one that may be familiar to Americans who lived through the early 2000s. Only this time, the threat Europe’s largest economy faces is even scarier than anything the United States faced back then.

    Economists are calling this threat “the second China Shock.” The first China Shock happened in the early 2000s. That’s when exports from China began surging and manufacturers around the world found themselves unable to compete.

  91. D-FENS says:

    Have you guys heard of these better dot com AI generated mortgages and HE loans?

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6380543501112

  92. Fabius Maximus says:

    Bill Burr is getting ripped for playing in Saudi Arabia. I think he just discovered this generations version of Sun City.

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/bill-burr-defends-performing-saudi-122945113.html

  93. Fabius Maximus says:

    Democrats don’t have any leverage.

    They do if the GOP cant use their majority. Trump owns this. Lets see who blinks.

  94. Mister Mister says:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/0ZSWbxjahd8

    Mister says:
    October 1, 2025 at 2:16 pm
    1:30 money is control.

  95. Exs says:

    3:26 it’s a cult tho

  96. Exs says:

    A cult of obese rancid demented fetid turds.

  97. Dark Phoenix says:

    If everyone is fired, that’s draining the swamp isn’t it?

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