“There’s no consensus on where the market price is.”

From Bloomberg:

Subprime Losses Drub Debt Securities as Credit Ratings Decline

On Wall Street, where the $800 billion market for mortgage securities backed by subprime loans is coming unhinged, traders are belatedly acknowledging what they see isn’t what they get.

As delinquencies on home loans to people with poor or meager credit surged to a 10-year high this year, no one buying, selling or rating the bonds collateralized by these bad debts bothered to quantify the losses. Now the bubble is bursting and there is no agreement on how much money has vanished: $52 billion, according to an estimate from Zurich-based Credit Suisse Group earlier this week that followed a $90 billion assessment from Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank AG

“We do not foresee the poor performance abating,” Standard & Poor’s said yesterday as it threatened to downgrade $12 billion worth of securities backed by subprime mortgages. Losses “remain in excess of historical precedents and our initial assumptions,” S&P said.

Moody’s Investors Service went further, lowering the ratings on $5.2 billion of subprime-related debt.

“I track this market every single day and performance has been a disaster now for months,” said Steven Eisman, who helps manage $6.5 billion at Frontpoint Partners in New York, during a conference call hosted by S&P yesterday. “I’d like to understand why you made this move now when you could have done this months ago.”

A total of 11 percent of the loan collateral for all subprime mortgage bonds had payments at least 90 days late, were in foreclosure or had the underlying property seized, according to a June 1 report by Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group Inc., a securities firm in Arlington, Virginia. In May 2005, that amount was 5.4 percent.

While there’s no consensus on prices, traders agree that the bonds are headed lower. Some of the securities have already declined by more than 50 cents on the dollar in the past few months, according to data compiled by Merrill Lynch & Co.

One subprime mortgage bond, Structured Asset Investment Loan trust 2006-3 M7, is valued at about 91 cents on the dollar to yield 9.5 percent, according to the securities unit of Charlotte, North Carolina-based Wachovia Corp. Merrill Lynch in New York puts the price of the same security at 67 cents to yield 18 percent.

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2 Responses to “There’s no consensus on where the market price is.”

  1. New York Times Talks Bubble

    http://www.paperdinero.com/BNN.aspx?id=261

    Gretchen Morgenson, Pulitzer prize winning financial columnist with the New York Times, discusses at length the details of the housing and mortgage meltdown. Morgenson, in no unequivocal terms, correctly labels the housing run-up a “bubble” and a “mania” and also blames Wall Street backed easy lending, lightly regulated mortgage brokers, and lax rating agencies as a major cause. She further suggests that the decline will be protracted and “not pretty”.

    Originally aired on: 6/29/2007 on Bill Moyers Journal

    Running Time: 14 minutes 6 seconds

  2. CNBC educational video on subprime loan CDOs and derivatives – a must-watch for HP’ers

    So if you’re a hedge fund, how can you lose everything investing in subprime mortgages?

    http://housingpanic.blogspot.com/2007/07/cnbc-educational-video-on-subprime-loan.html

    Now you know.

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