Unemployment falls in December, but NJ still lags

From the Record:

NJ’s annual job growth slow, with some bright spots

Four years after New Jersey reached its post-recession employment low, figures released Thursday show the state’s economic recovery continues to be slow.

The state added a modest 29,000 jobs in 2014, leaving employment far below its pre-recession peak and lower even than the level 14 years ago, according to the monthly employment report released by the New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development.

The report showed New Jersey shed 400 jobs last month, even as national employment forged ahead strongly, adding 252,000 jobs in December. And although the state’s jobless rate dropped from 6.4 percent to 6.2 percent, it remains above the national figure of 5.6 percent.

The report, nevertheless, contained some positive elements, including the fact that the state added more jobs in 2014 than the previous year, despite the loss of thousands of casino jobs in Atlantic City, a very harsh winter and the lingering effects of Superstorm Sandy.

“It was a sustained, moderate pace of growth,” said Patrick O’Keefe, director of economic research at the accounting firm CohnReznick.

The 29,000 jobs added last year were an improvement on 2013, when the state gained 18,800 jobs, but below the 2012 total of 43,900 and only slightly better than the figure of 25,200 in 2011.

Since the state’s employment reached a low point in January 2011, New Jersey has regained 48 percent of the 258,000 jobs lost in the downturn. State figures show employment at the end of 2014, 3,957,800 workers, is still below the 2000 total of 4,024,600.

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104 Responses to Unemployment falls in December, but NJ still lags

  1. grim says:

    Sheik Yerbouti died?

  2. funnelcloud says:

    Mornin “Jersey”

  3. funnelcloud says:

    Grim You sound shocked, He was like 90 years old, wasn’t he?

  4. Liquor Luge says:

    Just stick one of his towelhead brothers or half-brothers on the throne, and keep teaching jihad.

  5. Liquor Luge says:

    With “friends” like the Saudis, who needs enemies?

  6. chicagofinance says:

    clot: I used “rictus faced” in conversation the other day. I want to thank you for teaching me a new useful word……your reference was to Pelosi

  7. anon (the good one) says:

    @jeremyscahill:
    To mark King Abdullah’s deaths, the US will send George W Bush with some US death row prisoners for the Saudis to behead.

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Funny, one generation received a free college education, now that same generation is complaining about having to provide the free education to another generation. Greedy people.

    “So clearly it is time to hit the reset on the century-old model of K-through-12 education, and give an overlooked segment of our next workforce the academic training it needs to compete globally.

    Consider it a pragmatic investment: The number of high-skilled workers has been flat since baby boomers began to retire, the same boomers whose parents were part of the first generation to take advantage of free, universal secondary education – another bold American idea that was met with skepticism, in fact.

    Nor is this initiative an overreach. Skeptics will suggest that enlarging this circle of opportunity isn’t worth a ten-year, $60 billion moonshot, because tuition grants are already available for poor and middle class students who seek them.

    But it costs a lot to get a glimpse of the ivory tower: According to annual survey from College Board, the national average for tuition and fees at community colleges is $3,347. But it is higher at New Jersey’s 19 community colleges ($4,391), and it runs as high as $7,320 in Vermont.

    Yet no matter where you live, tuition accounts for only one-fifth of the total cost of attendance. Students must also pay for textbooks and supplies ($1,328 is the national average; it’s $1,600 in New Jersey) and transportation ($1,735). Some have to pay for food, housing, and childcare, which runs the cost up to $8,520.

    So tuition is not the only burden. Perhaps Congress will conclude that subsidies are better spent on remedial services, retention plans, or even childcare.

    But spending $6 billion a year is a pittance compared to the benefits of launching millions of kids into the middle-class. According to a six-year study by the New Jersey Council of County Colleges, students who have high school degrees and passed a college placement test have a success rate of 70 percent – which means they either earn associate degrees or move on to a four-year school.

    Moreover, educators assert that the 85-percent dropout rate at urban schools is often attributable to financial hardship and time constraints, given the average age of community college students (28) and the demands of work and child-rearing.

    Affordability is the first step. Ask the grads with $400 loan payments who move back in with their parents, whose own retirement accounts are depleted if they co-signed those loans. College costs have a rippling effect on the economy, because these people aren’t lining up to purchase cars or refrigerators.

    So Obama’s plan has merit. Opponents will say this is a tough ask in an age of limited resources. But it’s also an age in which we spend $1.7 trillion on wars of choice.

    This is the president’s G.I. Bill, minus the army — an astute and far-reaching initiative that illuminates a path into the middle class for millions, just as the last G.I. Bill did for their grandfathers. This 21st Century investment in human infrastructure shows the same confidence in the potential of our workforce.”

    http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/01/free_community_college_deserves_a_chance_editorial.html#incart_river

  9. The Great Pumpkin says:

    8- I am all for investing in education and infrastructure. Best investments tax money can buy.

  10. Comrade Nom Deplume, armed and dangerous says:

    [8] pumpkin,

    Just one more thing for people like me to take advantage of.

  11. Thomas says:

    UPS shares plunging in the pre-market, “warning that it’s 4th quarter results will be terrible.” Yahoo Finance

  12. joyce says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2915061/Nasa-climate-scientists-said-2014-warmest-year-record-38-sure-right.html

    Nasa climate scientists: We said 2014 was the warmest year on record… but we’re only 38% sure we were right

  13. Liquor Luge says:

    Always easier to give away free shit- like two years of community college- than address the ridiculous level of financialization that has shot regular college tuitions through the roof. Take away the financialization, tuitions drop like a rock.

    As always, the chump middle class takes it in both ends: they save, in a vain attempt to try and keep up with the rising expense of college, then they get screwed by having their 529s taxed when they go to use them.

  14. Liquor Luge says:

    It matters not. We are doomed to eventual Third World status, as the systematic dismemberment of the middle class is almost complete.

  15. Juice Box says:

    Michael re: Artie Lang’s house – Artie was on the radio this AM taking about his shore house up for sale. He bought it peak and won’t sell unless he gets “his” price. Sounds like there may have been a few low ball offers.

    He bought it in 2008 for $2.45 million, got busted in 2009 for DUI down the shore and then tried to kill himself in 2010. He listed the house for sale in 2010 for $3.5 million then marked down to $3.2 million in 2011 now it’s down to $2.5 Million.

    He talked about how he bought the house with money he made doing standup over the years traveling the country for gigs at comedy clubs. Hard earned money..

    http://www.app.com/story/life/home-garden/luxury/mansions/2015/01/22/got-million-buy-artie-langs-toms-river-mansion/22007621/

  16. grim says:

    13 – I do not understand the motivation between the proposed 529 change, it is idiotic.

  17. Liquor Luge says:

    box (15)-

    No sympathy. Just a fat slob, in over his head.

  18. Comrade Nom Deplume, armed and dangerous says:

    [14] luge,

    Well then, you had better order yours now.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/bmw-and-daimler-unveil-bulletproof-cars-1409149977

    This is yet another of my canaries in the coal mine: When armoring could be ordered as an option from the manufacturer.

  19. Liquor Luge says:

    grim (16)-

    The more idiotic things sound, the faster Washington rushes to embrace them.

    This is how you destroy your nation from within.

  20. Juice Box says:

    There are 12 million 529 plans of which 70 percent are held by people with incomes above $200k. The so called “rich” who are apparently avoiding taxes by saving and investing for their children’s future.

    I will just put it into Blue chips if it goes away, just like the Fed and whomever is pulling on the string to push more money into the stock market want.

  21. grim says:

    18 – Funny, I see it as a way to extract additional money from wealthy idiots who are willing pay to for the bragging rights.

  22. phoenix says:

    Have a friend who owns a 2br cape for sale, NNJ, very good town. This town has almost no 2 br sfh, one in that town that bordered a less desirable town was used as a comp almost 1 year ago sold for 250k. This one has a better location, perfect lot, but is 100 sqft smaller. First appraisal went through. 2 days before closing new appraisal the “other comp”, which was not found in the first appraisal (how do you miss it) is mysteriously found so my friend gets told the bank won’t close as the borrower is a 5%er.
    This house is in an area where all the ones around it are being quadrupled in size.
    Not sure what to tell him. Should he finish the attic and make it a 3br? Or should he lower it to the appraised price?

  23. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nice stats. Def could make sense.

    Juice Box says:
    January 23, 2015 at 10:11 am
    There are 12 million 529 plans of which 70 percent are held by people with incomes above $200k. The so called “rich” who are apparently avoiding taxes by saving and investing for their children’s future.

    I will just put it into Blue chips if it goes away, just like the Fed and whomever is pulling on the string to push more money into the stock market want.

  24. Libturd in Union says:

    Taxing 529s? I’ll believe it when I see it. It will never pass. Wasn’t their talk in his first term of taxing 401Ks as well? He’s just placating the base of functional retards. Meanwhile, Gitmo is still open.

  25. Comrade Nom Deplume, armed and dangerous says:

    [24] libturd

    Taxing 529s is likely off the table if, for no other reason, the only people you can really tax are students. Not a good option for democrats.

    Roth IRAs, OTOH, are likely fair game.

  26. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    Never underestimate the mind of a theft.
    ————————-

    Woman Caught Stealing Jewelry at Open Houses

    A Maryland woman is going to jail after she stole jewelry from real estate open houses, including an irreplaceable heirloom.

    Sally Spaisman, 58, was sentenced Wednesday to one year in jail and five years of probation, the Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s Office says, for stealing more than $82,000 worth of jewelry from about 12 homes in the Bethesda, Chevy Chase and Potomac areas.

    She pleaded guilty to the theft charges after she combed the Internet for expensive homes on the market, showed up at the open houses, then stole expensive jewelry, prosecutors said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/open-house-thefts-cost-fake-real-estate-agent/story?id=28245008

  27. Comrade Nom Deplume, armed and dangerous says:

    never wanted any of the outrageously overpriced crap in this catalog. apparently no one else did either

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mollyhensleyclancy/skymall-magazine-files-for-bankruptcy#.kbQg2z1X3

  28. Comrade Nom Deplume, armed and dangerous says:

    [27] fka

    When we listed our house in the brig, the agent recommended locking up valuables and prescription meds.

    We already knew to lock up valuables. The meds suggestion was eye-opening.

  29. Libturd in Union says:

    Taxing 529s will only make college more expensive. The reason lower income people don’t save in 529s is because college is free already for them. That is, if they do well in high school. There are a ton of programs out there that are free. Upward Bound, EOF are two that come to mind. If you are closer to middle income, loans are readily available. If you ARE middle income since your folks worked hard to get where they are unless you are lucky enough to work for the man, are screwed. Now you will have to pay even more. Not just in taxes, but tuition will increase even more as every schlub can now party for two years on Uncle Sam’s dime. The law of supply and demand says that tuition will increase as demand increases and supply is limited.

    The moral hazard in this proposal is completely outrageous. Then again, if you are a progressive, there is no reward for being a productive member of society. The riches come to those who don’t pull up their bootstraps. The treatment of the middle class under this president (or those who are not part of their ever expanding government) can best be described as receiving an unstoppable swirly.

  30. Libturd in Union says:

    Nom,

    Now that there is nothing to read, go long Boingo.

  31. phoenix says:

    grim, pm me

  32. Not Grim says:

    Re 529, Got to think big. Some paperwork and tracking, but worth it. And this is why Obama is going after the features that are problematic.

    Well off couple. With well off both sets of grandparents (something like Xolepa). 3 kids.
    For example, let’s assume you and your spouse have three young grandchildren. Together, you can immediately contribute up to $420,000 ($14,000 x 2 spouses=$28,000 x 3 grandchildren=$84,000 x 5 years=$420,000) to 529 accounts with no adverse federal gift or estate tax consequences ($140,000 to three separate accounts, one for each grandchild). Assuming you live at least 5 years after making the gifts (the period over which the gifts are deemed to be spread), your taxable estates are reduced by a combined $420,000 ($210,000 each). Repeat again in 5 years, until owner is 18.

    So the $$ is not only paying for undergraduate and graduate expenses. But now becomes the equivalent of “perpetual tax deferred family education trust”. Because you can change the ownership of the accounts and monies have to be used by 30. So after each kid full educational undergrad/grad expenses (including vacation trips, luxury housing, hookers and blow under other expenses) are paid for. You keep the account until the first baby of the first generation is born and change ownership to him/her.

  33. Juice Box says:

    re # 29 – “Taxing 529s will only make college more expensive” Fog a mirror loans for students did that already, that is why we have “Actors” with 190k in student debt.

    Best bet is to follow another model, get rid of the waste in government and then fully fund PUBLIC universities

    Student tuition costs at public universities are about $62.6 billion, according to a 2013 Department of Education report, but somehow they cannot find the pork all over the pace to fund it.

    Bahh, bahhh, Baaahha nothing will pass this year. Obama is a lame duck as it gets. The guy who once handed out checks from tobacco companies to members of congress on the house floor will see to that.

  34. Marilyn says:

    Was rather upset when I opened my homeowners policy from Liberty Mutual. Up for no reason at all. So I started to look at other companies. Well I found out that Farmers Insurance is now available in NJ. The rates for home and auto nearly knocked me off my feet. I mean 1000 dollars lower than any other Company with the same limits and deductable. SO I asked why so low?? He the agent told me they have only been in the State for 2 year so no Sandy claims!! I signed! I dont use the Insurance anyway!!

  35. chicagofinance says:

    This approach is correct, but in practice, it is seldom seen, but monstrous in size when used. It is just disappointing that since a handful of people use it strategically as an estate planning tool to great effect, millions of others are collateral damage and are scared and feel alienated as singled out responsible savers……

    Not Grim says:
    January 23, 2015 at 11:05 am
    Re 529, Got to think big. Some paperwork and tracking, but worth it. And this is why Obama is going after the features that are problematic.

    Well off couple. With well off both sets of grandparents (something like Xolepa). 3 kids.
    For example, let’s assume you and your spouse have three young grandchildren. Together, you can immediately contribute up to $420,000 ($14,000 x 2 spouses=$28,000 x 3 grandchildren=$84,000 x 5 years=$420,000) to 529 accounts with no adverse federal gift or estate tax consequences ($140,000 to three separate accounts, one for each grandchild). Assuming you live at least 5 years after making the gifts (the period over which the gifts are deemed to be spread), your taxable estates are reduced by a combined $420,000 ($210,000 each). Repeat again in 5 years, until owner is 18.

    So the $$ is not only paying for undergraduate and graduate expenses. But now becomes the equivalent of “perpetual tax deferred family education trust”. Because you can change the ownership of the accounts and monies have to be used by 30. So after each kid full educational undergrad/grad expenses (including vacation trips, luxury housing, hookers and blow under other expenses) are paid for. You keep the account until the first baby of the first generation is born and change ownership to him/her.

  36. Libturd in Union says:

    Marilyn,

    There is no loyalty in insurance. It actually works the other way around. The longer you stay with the same outfit, the more expensive it will become. Every three years, get new quotes from as many insurance companies as possible. I simply white out the numbers on my current policy and fax it to a bunch of companies to make sure the quotes are apple to apple. Do this for both your auto and home. You will save thousands. It takes about two hours of total time.

  37. Libturd in Union says:

    I think it’s a great estate planning tool. Not sure why one should be penalized for it. Then again, I applaud the grandparents who have managed to save enough money that they can put their 2nd generation of offspring through college.

    Or would the government rather every college student take out and default on loans to diversify their balance sheet of never ending debt? That does seem to be the current strategy. No?

  38. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    I welcome the cheap gas at the pump. He’s an astute investor and might look at a few merger arb strategies.
    ———————

    Saudi prince: $100-a-barrel oil ‘never’ again

    Saudi billionaire businessman Prince Alwaleed bin Talal told me we will not see $100-a-barrel oil again. The plunge in oil prices has been one of the biggest stories of the year. And while cheap gasoline is good for consumers, the negative impact of a 50% decline in oil has been wide and deep, especially for major oil producers such as Saudi Arabia and Russia. Even oil-producing Texas has felt a hit. The astute investor and prince of the Saudi royal family spoke to me exclusively last week as prices spiraled below $50 a barrel. He also predicted the move would dampen what has been one of the big U.S. growth stories: the shale revolution. In fact, in the last two weeks, several major rig operators said they had received early cancellation notices for rig contracts. Companies apparently would rather pay to cancel rig agreements than keep drilling at these prices. His royal highness, who has been critical of Saudi Arabia’s policies that have allowed prices to fall, called the theory of a plan to hurt Russian President Putin with cheap oil “baloney” and said the sharp sell-off has put the Saudis “in bed” with the Russians.

    Q: Will prices continue to fall?

    A: If supply stays where it is, and demand remains weak, you better believe it is gonna go down more. But if some supply is taken off the market, and there’s some growth in demand, prices may go up. But I’m sure we’re never going to see $100 anymore. I said a year ago, the price of oil above $100 is artificial. It’s not correct.

    Q: Some people believe this crash in oil will create a lot of new mergers in the energy industry. Do you agree?

    A: No doubt about that. For sure there’ll be a lot of consolidation in the market. Because many small and medium-sized companies can’t afford this. Because they are very much dependent on the price of oil. Big companies like Exxon and Chevron are weathering the oil market crash because they are integrated vertically. But no doubt there’ll be some mergers and acquisitions coming in one to two years.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/bartiromo/2015/01/11/bartiromo-saudi-prince-alwaleed-oil-100-barrel/21484911/

  39. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    Will have to find something else to read on my flights now.
    —————————

    Airline catalog SkyMall files for Bankruptcy

    SkyMall, the in-flight shopping catalog that’s long been a staple of airline travel, appears to have become a victim of changing times.

    The company that produces SkyMall filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Thursday and is seeking a court-supervised sale of its assets, The Wall Street Journal reports.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2015/01/23/airline-catalog-skymall-files-for-bankruptcy/22213809/

  40. Xolepa says:

    (35) Chi, not understanding your comments. My maternal grandparents arrived post-WW2 Ellis Island with absolutely nothing. Paternal GPs at least had a wooden chest holding their most valuable asset – pictures of family from their forsaken homeland.

    PGPs were able to save up within 2 years in this country to buy a 3 family in Newark, when Newark was gold. MGPs took about 5 years and bought a 3 family too, in Newark.

    Similar situation on my wife’s side. No silver spoon there.

  41. Xolepa says:

    Oops, let me look in my pocket, think I’m missing something.

    Thank God, found it. I thought I lost my privilege card.

  42. Libturd in Union says:

    Gary Is Going to Save the Housing Market!

  43. Xolepa says:

    Capitalism at its finest. Even if it’s not made in the USA

    http://www.aeromobil.com/

    p.s. Please play the video

  44. anon (the good one) says:

    @FaustMN:
    Top 1% own ~40% of US wealth, and want more. How much? Give us a number and we can work together toward that goal.

  45. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This article is misleading. They should state that the national housing market will never return. Real estate has become more localized than ever before. The saying “location, location, location” has never held more true than in 2015. The bottom of the housing market is dead, just like the walking zombies that inhabit those areas. These people have been destroyed by automation, capitalism, corporations, globalization, and our own govt (since our govt is indirectly run by the biggest corporations). Places like Paterson and Newark are prob never going to come back. Sure it might come back after the current residents are pushed out, but the current residents living there are beyond fuc!ed!! They are getting beat from every direction possible.

    hoodafa says:
    January 23, 2015 at 12:33 pm
    Nothing Is Going to Save the Housing Market

    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-23/housing-weak-even-with-government-programs-and-big-bank-interest

    I will just put it into Blue chips if it goes away, just like the Fed and whomever is pulling on the string to push more money into the stock market want.

  46. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thanks for the laugh. The level of greed is incomprehensible.

    anon (the good one) says:
    January 23, 2015 at 1:40 pm
    @FaustMN:
    Top 1% own ~40% of US wealth, and want more. How much? Give us a number and we can work together toward that goal.

  47. jcer says:

    [46] anon and Obama is working extra hard to give it to them. Baaa Baa, sheep. Both the Democrooks and Republicons bother represent the extremely wealthy, one targets the upper middle class and the other the poor with their rhetoric. One is trying to destroy the middle class and the other is trying to keep it down. No difference, nothing to see here, move along.

  48. The Great Pumpkin says:

    47- These places are never coming back because the people living there are losing jobs by the second. They literally almost have no shot of finding a job. So how the hell are the properties in their location going to go up? It’s not. These people have been left behind. Landlords won’t even buy in these areas because it carries too much risk. If you don’t get a section 8 payment, how do you get paid?

  49. anon (the good one) says:

    @BettyBowers:
    Ann Romney said God asked Mitt to run in 2008. I wonder why the Lord likes to prank Mitt and publicly humiliate him.

  50. anon (the good one) says:

    @BettyBowers:
    In America, the only thing braver than being a sniper is criticizing one. #AmericanSniper @Sethrogen

  51. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    In today’s privilege news. Privilege is getting tipped off by the central bank to close out a trade before they make an announcement to the world. Could also be said this is how the 1% keeps their 1%. I remember reading about the “Bank of England” trade but this would have been ironic for sure.
    ————————–

    How The Swiss National Bank Almost Crushed George Soros

    Minutes after last week’s Swiss National Bank shocker, jokingly we mused:

    Will be ironic if Soros was long EURCHF — zerohedge (@zerohedge) January 15, 2015

    … because there would be nothing more ironic if the man who “broke the Bank of England” ended up being FXCMed himself by another central bank, over two decades later and just as he was set to finally retire, at the age of 84, formally, something he supposedly announced in Davos yesterday.

    As it turns out, we were almost correct, and according to the WSJ, Soros Fund Management, which manages more than $25 billion for investor George Soros, was betting against the Swiss franc in the fall before it removed those bearish positions. Why did the Soros so conveniently take off a bet which, with leverage, could have resulted in massive losses for his hedge fund? The WSJ says he did so after “viewing the risk as too high relative to potential gains, said people close to the matter.” Well as long as “people close” think Soros did not have input directly from the Swiss central bank, or perhaps the occasional hint from Kashya Hildebrand, then one can’t help but marvel at the octogenarian’s impeccable timing.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-23/how-swiss-national-bank-almost-crushed-george-soros

  52. anon (the good one) says:

    @SenSanders:
    If the environment were a bank it would have been saved already.

  53. Libturd in Union says:

    Obviously, we need to stress test the environment.

  54. Thomas says:

    54.

    Help save the environment Anon, give up your car.

  55. Ragnar says:

    Next step:
    Government will now tax human capital transfers from parents to children.
    There will be a $100 tax for every time parents with high cultural capital give good advice to their children – statements like “study hard and do well in school”, “read a book instead of watching TV”, “stay away from those druggie kids”, “don’t get pregnant in high school”, “don’t sleep till noon on weekends”. This is an unfair way that certain parents give their kids an advantage over other less fortunate children.

    These taxes will be transferred to the parents of the less fortunate, and will help them to afford the more expensive items of modern life like cable tv, chips and soda, Kools, and booze/drugs.

  56. anon (the good one) says:

    my Subaru is environmental

    Thomas says:
    January 23, 2015 at 3:02 pm
    54.

    Help save the environment Anon, give up your car.

  57. jcer says:

    58, your subaru is a car for carpet munchers.

  58. jcer says:

    not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  59. Liquor Luge says:

    Is Bomma really gonna buy me Kools, malt liquor and loose blunts?

  60. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I want to see the data for the 1% on the movement in and out of the 1%. Give me 2012, 1992, 1972, 1952, 1922, and 1912. If there is a low turnover trend starting in 1972 and on, we can indeed draw a conclusion that the rise in income equality in the world from 1970 on has some kind of correlation with the 1%’s ability to remain in the 1%, which should not happen unless the game has become rigged. A healthy and productive competition should involve movement in the ranks. Otherwise, it’s no longer a capitalist system, which at the heart is a system based on competition.

    FKA 2010 Buyer says:
    January 23, 2015 at 2:11 pm
    In today’s privilege news. Privilege is getting tipped off by the central bank to close out a trade before they make an announcement to the world. Could also be said this is how the 1% keeps their 1%. I remember reading about the “Bank of England” trade but this would have been ironic for sure.

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, weatherman was totally off. That’s a lot of snow out there.

  62. NJT says:

    #57
    Grim is well positioned for this scenario. I hear he’s targeted that group with a product by the name of ‘Bros’ Bourbon’ a low priced, high proof whiskey. Packaging is still being designed…

  63. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Check out this article from USA TODAY:

    Demolitions an ugly reality for cities

    http://usat.ly/1JvEDue

  64. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Check out this article from USA TODAY:

    Ferrets chew off baby’s nose

    http://usat.ly/1JvDYch

  65. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wage inflation….Starbucks ceo got a 24% increase!! Lol

  66. Liquor Luge says:

    Thought grim was gonna target the clear whiskey crowd first. White Lightning drinkers tend to devote all their discretionary income to buying it.

    Rumor is, grim’s also gonna bottle it in plastic handles, specially designed for the urban imbiber.

  67. Liquor Luge says:

    Vigoda > Ernie Banks

  68. Essex says:

    We are all one recession away from oblivion.

  69. chicagofinance says:

    The Cubs could have broke the curse in the next couple of years…they’re ready….that stinks so much!

    Liquor Luge says:
    January 24, 2015 at 9:00 am
    Vigoda > Ernie Banks

  70. chicagofinance says:

    Do they have a name yet?

    Paterson Piss
    Polish Lightning
    William Paterson Whiskey
    Geekshine
    Chesthairoleum
    Shot of Slackwad

    Liquor Luge says:
    January 24, 2015 at 8:56 am
    Thought grim was gonna target the clear whiskey crowd first. White Lightning drinkers tend to devote all their discretionary income to buying it.

    Rumor is, grim’s also gonna bottle it in plastic handles, specially designed for the urban imbiber.

  71. chicagofinance says:

    Convent (jj Edition):
    A Catholic nun in Italy has given birth to a baby boy — despite living in an all-female community and taking vows of “chastity, poverty and obedience.”
    Women at the Santa Chiara nunnery in San Severino are scratching their heads after the unidentified 31-year-old went from complaining of “stomach cramps” to delivering a child, Central European News reports.
    The nun collapsed from severe pain at the convent and was rushed to a nearby hospital, where doctors discovered the nature of her problem: She was going into labor.
    The woman claimed to have no idea that she was pregnant, especially since she lives behind closed doors with only other nuns.
    She had joined the nunnery two years ago after traveling to Italy from South America, according to CEN.
    Despite the shocking birth, her sister nuns were at the woman’s bedside — attending to her every need.

  72. Liquor Luge says:

    May I suggest Paterson Gentleman?

  73. Grim says:

    Bunch of wise ass smack talkers.

  74. Grim says:

    Going to hide ferrets in your toilets.

  75. Juice Box says:

    How about the simple polish spelling for it?

    whisky

  76. POS cape says:

    75

    It was an immaculate conception.

  77. Fast Eddie says:

    Friskey Whiskey? :)

  78. NJT says:

    #69

    Plastic handle won’t work, for some. Think about it: What if a drinker smokes a blunt with the same hand he/she uses to hold the container? Handle could melt if the blunt burns too close.

    Now that could be a good thing as they’d have to buy another batch of Grim’s Good Stuff but also a bad as there could be an injury and then lawyers get involved…

  79. Grim says:

    Hightower and Mahony is the single malt label.

  80. Grim says:

    And a sour mash bourbon named Northern Aggression- New Yankee Whiskey

  81. NJT says:

    Ah, yes, ‘The War of Northern Aggression’. Unless you’ve spent time down south or worked with some ‘rebs you wouldn’t know that’s what they call the Civil War (the 1861-1865 armed conflict between the U.S. States).

    I do like the name! Could sell a lot of shots at Ski lodges and retiree bars in the Carolinas.

  82. Liquor Luge says:

    I’d really think about naming the single malt Garfield & Clifton.

  83. Liquor Luge says:

    Ho-Ho-Kus Hootch?

  84. Grim says:

    Winthorpe and Valentine

  85. NJT says:

    Sorry Grim. Just teasing a bit. Good laughs!

    I’m sure your stuff will be up there with Bookers or are you going the Elija Craig route?

  86. Essex says:

    85. I dunno man. Probably better to tie your fortunes to a somewhat regional neutral meme. I like “Tin Cup” Bourbon when I drank some in Colorado. Came with it’s own tin cup. http://www.tincupwhiskey.com/

  87. Grim says:

    Yeah, those aren’t actually product names.

  88. chicagofinance says:

    Is that a cartoon dog and cat?

    Liquor Luge says:
    January 24, 2015 at 1:27 pm
    I’d really think about naming the single malt Garfield & Clifton.

  89. chicagofinance says:

    Call it Paterson Drug Test Whiskey…..have it come with a plastic urine sample cup…..

    Essex says:
    January 24, 2015 at 3:10 pm
    85. I dunno man. Probably better to tie your fortunes to a somewhat regional neutral meme. I like “Tin Cup” Bourbon when I drank some in Colorado. Came with it’s own tin cup. http://www.tincupwhiskey.com/

  90. NJT says:

    It’s all (OK, mostly) in the packaging and marketing.

    Cool label and/or container design wins every time (I’m not in the Whiskey business but…).

    I’ve kept old empty Whiskey bottles and filled them up with colored water just because they looked cool.

    *Note – this does not include ceramic gift pieces.

    Something with Jersey on it…

    Aw right, back to spackling…

  91. chicagofinance says:

    How about selling syringes and injectable sour mash?

  92. chicagofinance says:

    FWIW……I almost stood up and sucker punched someone in the Colts Neck Dunkin Donuts because some idiot woman kept saying hello to people she knew in a loud voice and dropped “my daughter goes to Peddie” within the first two or three sentences….my 8 year old son looked at me and asked “what’s wrong”……after the third “my daughter goes to Peddie”…there was more steam coming out of my ears than my son’s hot chocolate……

  93. Liquor Luge says:

    Peddie is a good place to get parents warmed up for writing 30K+ tuition checks once a year.

  94. Grim says:

    Sounds illustrious, notable alumni includes rapper Chico Bling.

  95. Libturd at home says:

    Winthorpe and Valentine get my vote. Either that or Mortimer & Randolph.

  96. Essex says:

    Ironbound Bourbon

  97. Juice Box says:

    So a tweet scrambles jet fighters these days?

  98. Juice Box says:

    We must be pouring tens of billions into monitoring social media.

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