NJ’s real estate market off to a good start in 2017

From the Otteau Group:

NJ Home Sales Remain Strong in 2017

In January, the number of contract purchases by home buyers exceeded the same month in the prior year for the 29th consecutive month, reflecting a 14% increase over January 2016. Considering the 15% increase (y-o-y) in January of 2016, home sales have increased by 31% over the past 2 years. This latest gain was the highest number of purchase contracts recorded in the month of January since 2005.

A closer look at the distribution of home sales in New Jersey shows continuing strength in those priced below $400,000, which recorded a 16% increase in January compared to one year ago. This price range is primarily represented by younger-age ‘Millennials’ who are beginning to transition from rentership to homeownership. Also noteworthy is a 19% increase in the number of home sales priced between $1.0-2.5-Million, which has been sluggish in recent years. While it’s still too early in the year to declare this a trend, one possible explanation is increased optimism among higher income households given the Trump administration’s plans for lowering taxes and deregulating businesses. This trend bears close watching in the months ahead.

Shifting to the supply side of the equation, the supply of homes being offered for sale remains constricted, which is limiting choices for home buyers. The number of homes being offered for sale today in New Jersey has declined by nearly 5,400 (-12%) compared to one year ago. This is also about 34,000 (-47%) fewer homes on the market compared to the cyclical high in 2011. Today’s unsold inventory equates to 5.4 months of sales (non-seasonally adjusted), which is lower than one year ago when it was 7.0 months.

Currently, the majority (81%) of New Jersey’s 21 counties have less than 8.0 months of supply, which is a balance point for home prices. Hudson County is presently experiencing the strongest market conditions in the state with just 2.9 months of supply, followed by Essex, Union, Morris, Middlesex, Bergen and Passaic Counties, which all have fewer than 5 months of supply. All of the counties with an unsold inventory level equivalent to a supply of 8 months or greater are concentrated in the southern portion of the state including Cumberland (8.4), Cape May (8.6), Atlantic (9.7) and Salem (14.0).

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247 Responses to NJ’s real estate market off to a good start in 2017

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @GeorgeTakei

    You can’t be “a country united against hate” when your
    AG is a racist,
    your VP attacks LGBTs,
    and your top advisor is a White Nationalist.

  3. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Good Morning, Mike. Good Morning, Grim.

    Steam [14:29, prev thread];

    Depends on if it’s the Bannon-loving Trump or the independently-minded Trump. He could just as well announce the need for everyone to cut eyeholes in their bed sheets.

    Nancy and the Women’s auxilliary are way out in front on that.
    https://twitter.com/NancyPelosi/status/836698632237756417/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  4. Grim says:

    Overall, Trump did a good job.

  5. Grim says:

    Went high when his critics went low. Democrats looking silly this morning. Left leaning media being critically nitpicky during the speech last night now looking petty.

  6. Fast Eddie says:

    Homerun! Reaganesque. I was floored! You lefty misfits are DOA!

  7. nwnj3 says:

    GeorgeTakei? Hahaha.

  8. The Original NJ Expat says:

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck…

    Left leaning media being critically nitpicky during the speech last night now looking petty.

  9. nwnj3 says:

    Christie sealed his legacy as gov yesterday. His baggage tied him down too much to get anything done. Ineffective at best will be remembered as a failure.

  10. The Original NJ Expat says:

    He always has something(or someone) up his ass.

    GeorgeTakei? Hahaha.

  11. The Original NJ Expat says:

    The Dem women made a poor choice dressing like white sacks of potatoes. They were so easy to pick out as dead fish laying on the beach.

  12. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I guess there is probably nothing so energy-killing as being a fat woman who is forced to shop for a white dress to wear in February.

  13. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Pelosi on Morning Joe looking like everyone is on decaf today.

  14. Fast Eddie says:

    Did you notice how more and more democrats stood and applauded as the speech progressed? Fyi, Obama, that’s called passion and inspiration.

  15. Fast Eddie says:

    Expat,

    Lol. You’re killing me!

  16. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @billmaher

    How bout that Donald Trump tonight!
    Home run, I say!
    And so presidential – on the way out,

    he didn’t grab a single puzzy!

  17. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The one thing that annoyed me with Trump was his claim to end the cycle of poverty with school choice and the lowering of crime. That’s a pure bs message. How in the world can you eliminate poverty in a capitalist based system?

    I think he also said high paying jobs for everyone. Utopia anyone?

  18. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @lisatozzi

    To sum up,
    Trump says military to blame for SEAL’s death,
    Obama is organizing protests,
    Jews might be behind anti-Semitic threats/attacks.

  19. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I’m not buying any of this anti-semitic BS. I think all of it is paid for by the DNC. Who topples gravestones these days? Certainly not glass-touching teenagers anymore. Also, the bomb threats to JCCs, seems like that wouldn’t even make the news unless somebody wanted it to, and the only people who would want it to are those paying the perps. It just doesn’t smell legitimate. What it does smell like though is the same flawed thinking the liberal pols can’t stop pushing – just put BS out there and Trump will be blamed. It hasn’t worked yet.

  20. The Original NJ Expat says:

    BTW, if it wasn’t DNC-fronted money used to deface Jewish cemeteries, one or more of the dolts would have posted pictures on Instagram and been caught by now.

  21. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @pdacosta

    “You people in the media have a very low bar.”
    – @SenSchumer on #JointAddress .

    This was a “vehemently and virulently anti-immigrant speech.”

  22. 3b says:

    Trump did very well whether you love or hate him. If being honest there was nothing he said last night that was objectionable whether realistic on some topics is another question. Leftists lose this round.

  23. D-FENS says:

    Doofus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWA-Y92KymQ

    Democrat Steve Beshear Calls Himself “A Proud Republican”

  24. Fast Eddie says:

    DOW up 194 points, Libs and media on suicide watch!

  25. D-FENS says:

    In the Democratic response to Trump’s speech, the guy calls himself a proud Republican. Brilliant.

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    21k hats anyone?

  27. The Great Pumpkin says:

    We have been saying this for how long on this blog? The robots are coming and it’s going to be a rapidly different economy. The rise of robots is prob the nail in the coffin for capitalism. Human labor is just not as important as it once was to the economy.

    “The potential for simultaneous and rapid disruption, coupled with the breadth of human functions that AI might replicate, may have profound implications for labor markets,” BOE regional agents Mauricio Armellini and Tim Pike wrote in the Bank Underground post. “Economists should seriously consider the possibility that millions of people may be at risk of unemployment, should these technologies be widely adopted.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-01/economists-may-be-underestimating-how-fast-the-robots-are-coming

  28. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I stand by this. The luddite example should not be used to downplay the technological advancement on the labor market of today. That was a much different situation.

    “Robots and intelligent machines threaten to replace workers in industries from finance to retail to haulage, with BOE Chief Economist Andrew Haldane estimating in 2015 that 15 million British jobs and 80 million in the U.S. could be lost to automation. Past periods of technological upheaval, such as the industrial revolution, may not be a useful guide as the pace of change was slower, giving society longer to mitigate the potential consequences of increasing job displacement and inequality, according to Armellini and Pike.”

  29. Tywin says:

    Easy, create jobs.

    “How in the world can you eliminate poverty in a capitalist based system? “

  30. Tywin says:

    Funny thing about Trump’s speech last night, is it’s the exact speech he’s been giving for nearly two years. At every rally. For 18 months. Every single rally. Same speech.

    So apparently the “mainstream” media have only been watching each other’s 10-second sound bite snippets of Trump’s rallies, because Trump has been delivering this same exact message for over 18 months.

    Better late than never, I guess.

  31. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Pu$$y [9:02];

    “You people in the media have a very low bar.”
    – @SenSchumer

    After all, they’ve been all-in for Democrats for decades.

  32. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Tywin [10:02];

    Funny thing about Trump’s speech last night, is it’s the exact speech he’s been giving for nearly two years. At every rally. For 18 months. Every single rally. Same speech.

    I know. The media can’t believe he’s actually saying the same things AFTER he was elected. They’re so used to “their” candidate being forced to lie to get elected, then showing their true colors.

  33. The Original NJ Expat says:

    In the 90’s James Carville said he wanted to be reincarnated as the bond market, so he could intimidate anybody. Now he would probably say he wanted to be reincarnated as Trump because Trump can intimidate the bond market. Buh-lieve me.

  34. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I know. The media can’t believe he’s actually saying the same things AFTER he was elected. They’re so used to “their” candidate being forced paid to lie to get elected, then showingpaying their true colors donors.

  35. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Some nostalgia to cheer the puzzy up:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-2i71bqGw

  36. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s not that easy. Unless people are willing to give up profit, they are not going to create jobs. The creation of jobs has to come from the pie that has already been divided up. The labor is simply not needed. Sure we continue to grow that pie, but the gains are produced by technology and taken by the owner and investors of said technology. The people that have skilled jobs see huge raises, because their labor is still important. The result of all this is a huge problem with income inequality. You have the owners of business, and investors of business killing it. You have highly skilled workers killing it. Then you have everyone else who is beyond screwed. Even if they became highly skilled, all that would do is bring down the wages of the highly skilled by flooding that part of the labor market, further increasing income inequality to an even more extreme level of inequality. This is what Trump can’t seem to understand when he claims he’s going to create lots of high paying jobs. He must honestly not know how complex the problem really is.

    Tywin says:
    March 1, 2017 at 9:57 am
    Easy, create jobs.

    “How in the world can you eliminate poverty in a capitalist based system? “

  37. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I *had* to find out where that dancing clip was from:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB3rwZpirgI

  38. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Punkin’ – The next time your wife is out shopping for educational toys for you, have her pick this up.

    https://www.amazon.com/How-Economy-Grows-Why-Crashes/dp/047052670X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488382632&sr=1-1&refinements=p_27%3APeter+Schiff

  39. The Original NJ Expat says:

    ^^^ Have your daughter read it to you.

  40. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Imagine how much wealthier Bill Gates would be he didn’t give up all that profit creating jobs. Moron.

    Unless people are willing to give up profit, they are not going to create jobs.

  41. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @kurteichenwald

    Let me see if I understand this: Trump is blaming the generals 4 the outcome of the operation he says was successful? So why is there blame?

  42. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @ABFalecbalwin

    Speech writers can varnish it,
    but it’s still a
    racist,
    misogynistic,
    ant-science, anti-environment,
    ant-immigrant,
    monetizing presidency.

  43. Tywin says:

    @10:56 am

    Coffee is for closers only. You see this watch?

  44. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Observations by a Yankees fan:
    Watching the Dems while Trump hit it out of the park informed me of what I probably looked like when Schilling pitched the bloody sock game. I should have appreciated the incredible preparation, effort, execution, and success, but my intense hate just wouldn’t allow it.

  45. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Senate confirms Montana Rep. Ryan Zinke to serve as Interior secretary

  46. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I wonder how many limousine liberals have walls around their property?

  47. SteamTurd, in cankle-accentuating white dress with pacifier and puzzy hat says:

    Must have been a great speech. Anon’s meds aren’t working.

  48. The Original NJ Expat says:

    If I left my money on my front lawn every night, it might not take too much imagination to figure out that my money might be stolen often. Imagine if there were lots of people like me and half of them said, “What are you going to do? A lot of people come to our lawns because they need money. Build a wall? You will never be able to do that, it would cost too much. Who is going to pay for it? What we really need is lawn reform so these people can have their own lawns so they have someplace to lay down the money they’ve picked up from other people’s lawns.”

  49. D-FENS says:

    More single women flooding NJ’s housing market
    By Jen Ursillo March 1, 2017 2:32 AM

    http://nj1015.com/more-single-women-flooding-njs-housing-market/

    The spring home-buying season is about to be in full swing and all the single ladies will be helping to drive the market, according to new real estate data.
    In New Jersey, first-time homebuyers are a big portion of the market — 35 percent. And single women — mostly in the millennial generation — make up 19 percent of that portion.
    Nationally, single women are twice as likely to buy a home than single men.
    But why?
    Ralph DiBugnara, vice president of Parsipanny-based Residential Home Funding, based in Parsipanny says many millennial women are getting married and having children later in life.
    “It’s become an empowering thing to own their own home,” he said. “They don’t have to start a family, they don’t have to get married.”
    They saw their parents suffer through the recession and they are ready to put that behind them. Even though they make less money on average, women are still the ones more likely to make the financial sacrifice and buy a home.
    The average age for a single woman to buy a home is 34, while the U.S. Census says the average age to marry is 29.
    Single women are coming in droves to metropolitan areas and commuter areas, says DiBugnara, with the hot home buying spots including Jersey City, Hoboken, Ridgewood and Cranford — towns with train stations and “a little bit of a metropolitan, downtown feel.”
    Many are not buying single-family homes, opting for condos, co-ops and smaller townhouses.
    The biggest problem right now, DiBugnara says, is that there is “a lack of new homes coming to market but there are a lot of single women looking, so it’s helping.”
    Once a home comes on the market, however, it does goes quickly, usually at list or above-list price in the areas where these women are looking.

  50. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I still think we should build an illegal immigrant processing center in Afghanistan. If we ship all of the illegals there for processing, I would even be fine with catch and release, so long as the release part happens over there.

  51. The Original NJ Expat says:

    According to my internet there are a lot of them within 1 mile of me looking for sex.

    More single women flooding NJ’s housing market

  52. Nomad says:

    Ex-Pat,

    lots of funds being raised to repair the gravestones in St. Louis and Philly. I believe brotherhood of electricians have offered to put up flood lighting in Philly on their dime.

    Are you saying that the cemetery vandals were jewish or are you saying the DNC or some other related entity had people of unknown religious persuasions perform the vandalism? I would be interested to know how you came to the conclusion you did.

    On January 27 2017, President Trump failed to mention Jews during his comments about Holocaust Remembrance Day. Was this a function of the DNC and / or its supporters too? January 27, 1945 marked the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau. Some history for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp

  53. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    Dow 21,000!!!! Ding, Ding, Ding. TNX up big today. I’m making my move to 75/25 after the close today.

  54. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Nomad – I think that it seems like something manufactured for purely political purposes by the DNC or one of their front groups. The guys doing the vandalism are doing it for a paycheck, not anti-semitism. I think this is akin to the violence intentionally started by Hillary/DNC paid operatives at Trump rallies. The reporting seems to be well coordinated as well. The cemetery vandalism is always mentioned in the same breath with the bomb threats to Jewish schools and synagogues and the key phrase “rising anti-semitism”. If you google that phrase in quotes, you’ll see the phrase is proliferated through the news in the last two weeks. How many times did this happen last year, and the year before? No one says, but all the news outlets seem to agree that it is definitely rising. As often happens, the news outlets are given the exact phrases to use.

    Are you saying that the cemetery vandals were jewish or are you saying the DNC or some other related entity had people of unknown religious persuasions perform the vandalism? I would be interested to know how you came to the conclusion you did.

  55. The Original NJ Expat says:

    From 19 hours ago:

    “The question is not whether Donald Trump is an anti-Semite; the question is to what extent his behavior encourages anti-Semitism in the USA,”

    http://www.dw.com/en/growing-anti-semitism-in-the-us/a-37755245

  56. The Original NJ Expat says:

    “Russia” has gained zero traction in US hearts and minds that are already for Trump. Trump’s explicit battle with the fake news has only made people turn up the power of the microscope under which they examine the MSM. Alleging that Trump’s administration is in chaos and they can’t accomplish anything is yet another swing and a miss. I think associating Trump with “rising anti-Semitism” is the next lame swipe.

  57. The Original NJ Expat says:

    IMO, TLT is down *too* much for the rise in TNX and TYX. TLT is ex-dividend today, so that is a small part of it, but I added to TLT at 119. I’ve been holding 4,000 shares and range trading another 4,000 shares since just after the election. TLT been berry, berry good to me (and pays a nice monthly dividend too). I haven’t had the cahones to touch TBT, though.

    Disclosure: I’m always long S&P 500 stocks, so TLT isn’t just a trading vehicle, it’s also a hedge.

    Dow 21,000!!!! Ding, Ding, Ding. TNX up big today. I’m making my move to 75/25 after the close today.

  58. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @PaulKrugman

    Blame military for failed raid
    Blame Democrats for Jewish cc attacks
    Blame press director for bad messaging

    Vague sense of pattern here

  59. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Gourd [10:30];

    Unless people are willing to give up profit, they are not going to create jobs.

    Aaaand the soci@list Pumpkin is back. You have the situation exactly, precisely 180 degrees bass ackwards. People don’t have to give up profit to create jobs; No job is created WITHOUT profit — profit is the essential, indispensable precondition to long term job growth.

  60. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @BusinessInsider

    Trump’s TV ratings for his first speech to Congress
    sunk way lower than Obama’s

  61. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Grab them by the puzzy says:
    March 1, 2017 at 12:33 pm
    @PaulKrugman

    Dow hits 21k; Pu$$y quotes @PaulKrugman (‘The market is never going to recover from Trump.’ – evening of Nov 8, 2016) as if he is anything other than a leftist hack. Perfect!

  62. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @AoDespair

    …he has now demonstrated that he can lower his voice and read a teleprompter.

    So we have that going for us

  63. Newbomb Turk says:

    I see the echo chamber is in full effect today.

  64. No One says:

    What about the anti-Semitism of the lefties who imagine that jewish Rothschild bankers conspire to rule the world? Its hard lefties that share youtube videos about them to me.
    There are definitely a bunch of jerks and racists who support Trump. There were a ton of jerks and racists who support Dems. BLM is a racist organization. La Raza is a racist organization. CAIR is an anti-Semitic organization. Nation of Islam too. Where is the coverage of their problems?

  65. Fast Eddie says:

    The left doesn’t underestimate Trump, they fear him.

  66. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Grab them by the puzzy says:
    March 1, 2017 at 10:56 am
    @ABFalecbalwin

    Speech writers can varnish it,
    but it’s still a
    racist,
    misogynistic,
    ant-science, anti-environment,
    ant-immigrant,
    monetizing presidency.

    Translation: Who are you going to believe, us beautiful people in the media or your own lying ears?

  67. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not corrupting my daughter’s mind with this garbage. If only economics was this simple. Yes, all we need is the gold standard(sarcasm).

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    March 1, 2017 at 10:38 am
    Punkin’ – The next time your wife is out shopping for educational toys for you, have her pick this up.

    https://www.amazon.com/How-Economy-Grows-Why-Crashes/dp/047052670X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1488382632&sr=1-1&refinements=p_27%3APeter+Schiff

  68. The Original NJ Expat says:

    D-Fens – I caught that last night and rewound 3 or 4 different times to see if I could catch a change of expression in any of the faces of the onlookers. I couldn’t spot one.

    In the Democratic response to Trump’s speech, the guy calls himself a proud Republican. Brilliant.

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Go back and read my entire post before you take pieces of it and totally try to change the context of my post.

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Previous post was in response to this.

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    March 1, 2017 at 10:42 am
    Imagine how much wealthier Bill Gates would be he didn’t give up all that profit creating jobs. Moron.

    Unless people are willing to give up profit, they are not going to create jobs.

  71. The Original NJ Expat says:

    LOL. What sprung to mind was Steve Martin singing, “Criticize things I don’t know about…”. My daughters both read it on their own and they both own their own businesses at 15 & 13. Then again, they are Boston Latin students, which is a far leap from Wayne Valley. Congrats on number #14.

    Not corrupting my daughter’s mind with this garbage. If only economics was this simple. Yes, all we need is the gold standard(sarcasm).

  72. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Grab them by the puzzy says:
    March 1, 2017 at 12:36 pm
    @BusinessInsider

    Trump’s TV ratings for his first speech to Congress
    sunk way lower than Obama’s

    I live-steamed it to my laptop. Because, like you, the dinosaur media (and their ratings) are irrelevant.

  73. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Read your entire post? Does anybody actually do that?
    …Be dull, and boring, and omnipresent…

    Go back and read my entire post before you take pieces of it and totally try to change the context of my post.

  74. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Pumpkin live-steams his posts. They’re a hot mess.

  75. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    Read some interesting market perspective today.

    Between Dec. 31, 1899, and Dec. 31, 1999, to give a really long-term example, the Dow rose from 66 to 11,497. (Guess what annual growth rate is required to produce this result?)

  76. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    That amounts to a gain of 5.3 percent compounded annually. (Investors would also have received dividends, of course.) To achieve an equal rate of gain in the 21st century, the Dow will have to rise by Dec. 31, 2099, to — brace yourself — precisely 2,011,011.23. But I’m willing to settle for 2,000,000; six years into this century, the Dow has gained not at all.

  77. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Grab them by the puzzy says:
    March 1, 2017 at 12:36 pm
    @BusinessInsider

    Trump’s TV ratings for his first speech to Congress
    sunk way lower than Obama’s

    Pu$$y, even if that is right, you should be thankful more people weren’t watching. CNN Politics reported:

    Nearly 7-in-10 who watched said the President’s proposed policies would move the country in the right direction and almost two-thirds said the president has the right priorities for the country. Overall, about 7-in-10 said the speech made them feel more optimistic about the direction of the country.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/28/politics/donald-trump-joint-address-poll/

    That makes the ceiling for your worldview 30%, plus those who are willfully ignorant (like Maxine Waters who loudly declared she would not attend).

  78. Fast Eddie says:

    Awww… don’t feel bad liberals, at least you won the popular vote.

  79. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Actually they lost it…in 62% of the states and 90% of all counties. Or viewed another way, the 6 million vote lead from just NY and CA was more than half squandered around the rest of the country. Subtract the illegals and I think Hillary finished 3rd.

    Awww… don’t feel bad liberals, at least you won the popular vote.

  80. Fast Eddie says:

    I stand corrected. ;)

  81. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    So essentially, though losing the election from it, the left continues to play their hand using the same bass ackwards strategies that cost them the election in the first place. Everyone’s a racist. Everyone’s a misogynist. Everyone’s an anti-semite.

    What’s that quote again when your keep trying the same failed tactics over and over again?

  82. The Original NJ Expat says:

    If a liberal stands on a soapbox in either LA or NYC, everybody in sight agrees with them. Maybe they never learned about curvature of the earth?

    So essentially, though losing the election from it, the left continues to play their hand using the same bass ackwards strategies that cost them the election in the first place. Everyone’s a racist. Everyone’s a misogynist. Everyone’s an anti-semite.

  83. The Original NJ Expat says:

    LOL. CNN Math on right now:

    95 million not in the workforce

    Retired – 44.1
    College/Training – 15.5
    Disabled -15.4
    Caretakers – 12.9

    Total 87.9 million who don’t want jobs, according to CNN anyway.

  84. The Original NJ Expat says:

    It’s Ash Wednesday already?

  85. The Original NJ Expat says:

    BTW, does anybody know how date of Easter is calculated?

    The checklist, in order:
    1. Has to be after the Spring Solstice.
    2. Has to be after a Full Moon.
    3. Has to be a Sunday.

  86. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Whoops, I meant Spring Equinox.

  87. Nomad says:

    Ex Pat,

    I appreciate your comments. If valid, it is of great concern If not valid (i.e. the actions being discussed are from true hate groups / people with hate in the heart), that is of great concern too. In todays world, if it was my kid at one of those facilities, I would be worried.

    The entire political theatre is pathetic. The problems this nation faces, and the solutions to address them are a combination of what Reps and Dems stand for. But what do we get from many of our elected officials, childlike back and fourth. Sometimes I think that either congress does not know what to do or they know what to do but don’t have the stomach to do it.

    The bickering among citizens is like listening to 5 year olds (not directed at you ExPat but all of us). Its as if our citizenry wants to be associated with one side because they view their side as superior. I guess we all need a pony or something.

    Interesting that most tend to discredit any news source that does not fit ones narrative, real or imagined. I have my list of “liberal” and “conservative” news sources now.

    Independent thought is dead.

  88. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    “Independent thought is dead.”

    It’s alive in my brain. But I agree, it’s no longer alive in the vast majority of the public. We are all sheep.

  89. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You missed the point of my post.

    How can profit create jobs, when that profit is derived less and less from human labor? How? Now do you understand my post, is it making sense? If the labor is not needed to create that profit, how the hell will it lead to job creation? The only way is if the owner of that profit will give some back in the form of unneeded labor to give someone a make work job.

    This post was created to point out that trump is crazy if he thinks everyone can have a high paying job. Prove me wrong.

    Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:
    March 1, 2017 at 12:35 pm
    Gourd [10:30];

    Unless people are willing to give up profit, they are not going to create jobs.

    Aaaand the soci@list Pumpkin is back. You have the situation exactly, precisely 180 degrees bass ackwards. People don’t have to give up profit to create jobs; No job is created WITHOUT profit — profit is the essential, indispensable precondition to long term job growth.

  90. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The premise of that book is to push the gold standard. I do not want my daughter thinking the economy is that simple, or that easy to comprehend. Glad that your daughters read it and now understand that the gold standard could fix it all.

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    March 1, 2017 at 12:52 pm
    LOL. What sprung to mind was Steve Martin singing, “Criticize things I don’t know about…”. My daughters both read it on their own and they both own their own businesses at 15 & 13. Then again, they are Boston Latin students, which is a far leap from Wayne Valley. Congrats on number #14.

    Not corrupting my daughter’s mind with this garbage. If only economics was this simple. Yes, all we need is the gold standard(sarcasm).

  91. Tywin says:

    Dems didn’t clap for the below line — the globalist mindset is utterly toxic, and Mr T is going to roll back 40+ years of defeatism.

    “My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America.”

  92. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    These addresses are always full of promise. Trump is still speaking loudly and carrying a very small stick. I’m going to wait to see the results(or even the actions). I remember a similar euphoria around a certain black man us racists elected. Still waiting on the results of his promises. Change for the worse was not the change we were hoping for.

  93. 3b says:

    Anyone know how to stop email from reloading?? It’s annoying! Google is no help!

  94. D-FENS says:

    Several well-positioned Republican lawyers said privately in recent weeks that Estrada was a top possible nominee for the position as solicitor general. White House press secretary Sean Spicer was asked last week specifically about Estrada, who served as an assistant solicitor general in the 1990s.
    Estrada’s full statement: “I was immensely lucky to have the chance to serve our country years ago, but it did not work out. I have only respect and best wishes for those who agree to serve despite the deterioration of the confirmation process over the years, but everyone who knows me in this town knows that I would never accept a job that requires Senate confirmation or, for that matter, willingly place myself in any situation (e.g., a hearing room) in which convention requires that I be civil to Chuck Schumer.”

  95. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Like buying a house because you think it will make you money or buying a penny stock for a company that makes pancake batter in a spray cheese can? That kind of simple?

    I do not want my daughter thinking the economy is that simple

  96. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s Wayne Hills. And nj being ranked top 14 is good enough for me. Wish it was no 1, but no shame in 14.

    “which is a far leap from Wayne Valley. Congrats on number #14.”

  97. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I have made more on real estate than some make investing in a life time. I didn’t buy my house to make money, bought it to live in it. Took me three years to find what I was looking for, and I’m very happy with my choice.

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    March 1, 2017 at 3:28 pm
    Like buying a house because you think it will make you money or buying a penny stock for a company that makes pancake batter in a spray cheese can? That kind of simple?

    I do not want my daughter thinking the economy is that simple

  98. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    Wow does my 401K have the sh1ttiest options. I can only imagine how much I am paying for it.

  99. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    Punkinhead [14:22];

    This post was created to point out that trump is crazy if he thinks everyone can have a high paying job. Prove me wrong.

    Choose your response:

    A) Kiss my ass!

    B) Galdly, sir! That will be a $25,00o evergreen retainer, please.

    C) No one every said Everyone can have a high-paying job. Not even Trump. Pretty little straw may you’ve erected, though. I know that it doesn’t have a brain — it’s builder didn’t even have the standard-issue allotment, and certainly didn’t have one to spare.

  100. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Moose, this is directly from his mouth.

    “Every American child should be able to grow up in a safe community, to attend a great school, and to have access to a high-paying job. (Applause.) ”

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/28/remarks-president-trump-joint-address-congress

  101. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    For those who want to trust a janitor to their retirement savings, I am grateful for the recent bull market Mr. T has provided me. But my faith in his follow-through is little. I am now 75% large-cap growth and 25% Pimco Total Return Fund.

  102. 3b says:

    Need some flashing on house replaced? Do I have to go with a siding company?

  103. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    Handyman! Is it just one place? Water getting in?

  104. 3b says:

    Steam 3 or 4 spots . No water getting in but need the new flashing old and bent pieces that came down. I don’t do ladders any more!

  105. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    Still would say handyman who climbs ladders. A gutter guy might do it for you too.

  106. Newbomb Turk says:

    Where is Trump going to get the money for Infrastructure, a wall, healthcare reform ver.2, inner cities….etc.etc.?

  107. Newbomb Turk says:

    I will give Trump credit that was one excellent speech.

  108. 3b says:

    Steam but where do I get the material?

  109. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    Flashing material or siding? We talking cedar shingles or vinyl siding?

    http://www.homedepot.com/s/flashing?NCNI-5&gsitesearch

  110. Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

    You could probably do this one yourself, but you don’t climb ladders anymore so go with a gutter guy. They’ll have the flashing. Most gutter guys can do all kinds of basic roofing and siding repairs. I have a great Polish guy from Paterson that I use. If you are in area, I can give you his digits.

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  112. 3b says:

    Steam appreciate it. Is he competitive price wise? How can I get in touch with you?

  113. chicagofinance says:

    What company is the provider?

    Steamy Cankles Foundation says:
    March 1, 2017 at 3:40 pm
    Wow does my 401K have the sh1ttiest options. I can only imagine how much I am paying for it.

  114. chicagofinance says:

    “Be oblong and have your knees removed.”

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    March 1, 2017 at 12:52 pm
    LOL. What sprung to mind was Steve Martin singing, “Criticize things I don’t know about…”. My daughters both read it on their own and they both own their own businesses at 15 & 13. Then again, they are Boston Latin students, which is a far leap from Wayne Valley. Congrats on number #14.

    Not corrupting my daughter’s mind with this garbage. If only economics was this simple. Yes, all we need is the gold standard(sarcasm).

  115. STEAMturd, playing the simpleton Anon says:

    Fidelity. 20 options. 12 of them are those time based target funds. Pretty much small/mid/large cap, international, emerging market, Pimco Total Market, one vanguard fund and one stable income fund. The rest date funds. Makes it easy to make decisions. But not such a good thing due to lack of choice. For the most part, I’m in large cap and small cap and occasionally international.

  116. STEAMturd, playing the simpleton Anon says:

    3b, he’s the cheapest you will ever find. Have you forgotten who you are speaking with? Grim will give you my email.

  117. chicagofinance says:

    Stu: it could be MUCH worse….fcuk the PIMCO fund…..if you want to be 75/25, then overload stock and use the stable value…..PIMCO is bleeding assets and you don’t want to deal with holding other people’s used tampons sanbagging your returns…..

  118. The Original NJ Expat says:

    A lot of people don’t know you can lose money with bonds. A lot more people don’t know you can lose money *fast* in bond funds. Other holders’ redemptions trigger liquidation of your assets.

  119. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    18 U.S. Code § 2381 – TREASON

    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

  120. chicagofinance says:

    I only buy individual bonds for my full service clients…….I have been mixing in floaters too……

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    March 2, 2017 at 12:25 am
    A lot of people don’t know you can lose money with bonds. A lot more people don’t know you can lose money *fast* in bond funds. Other holders’ redemptions trigger liquidation of your assets.

  121. nwnj3 says:

    Was watching the morning news today and they had breaking news that allegedly Sessions was in contact with Russian diplomats prior to the election… Okay, the very next “breaking story” was a crackhouse that burnt down. Tells you what you need to know. Not to mention this story was apparently broken by Brian “Fake News” Williams.

  122. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @ShaunKing

    PRO-TIP.

    Today, the @WhiteHouse & @RealDonaldTrump will do EVERYTHING they can to distract us from

    Jeff Sessions LYING UNDER OATH.

  123. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Nwnj

    What wasn’t reported was that one “contact” was due to his committee membership and another was when a crowd of diplos came up to him after a speech.

    Some “contacts”

  124. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    A great response on a friend’s FB page to whether we wanted Lie-watts to run in 2020:

    “I’d rather shave two rabid wolverines while smoking a cigarette locked in a phone booth filled with diesel up to my knees while Beyoncé played on my headphones on the edge of the Grand Canyon in the middle of a Sharknado.”

  125. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @djlavoie

    So NYT, WaPo and WSJ *all* have gigantic scoops on the Russia front tonight.

    Just massive.

  126. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Damn autocorrect

    Lie-watha. Aka Warren

  127. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Puzzy,

    More propaganda opiates for the azzes

  128. nwnj3 says:

    I completely underestimated how entertaining it would be to watch progressives lose their minds like this. Thank you Donald for the nonstop entertainment.

  129. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Puzzy,

    Using your understanding of Treason as statutory interpretation, we can now execute Obama, Holder, Clinton, Lynch, and Waters.

    Good work.

  130. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    The wheels are coming off the wagon. Puzzy and PL will have to hole up in MontKlair and avoid leaving the Clinton Archipelago lest someone caps them.

    Clot is a friggen prophet.

  131. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @NateSilver538

    You can’t spell

    “Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third”

    without L-Y-I-N-G U-N-D-E-R O-A-T-H

  132. nwnj3 says:

    I hope after relegating the mainstream media to tabloid status Trump finds the time to destroy the progressive movement. It is a destructive force by nature so all he needs to do is find a way to turn it against itself.

  133. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @jeremyscahill

    The Russian ambassador met with more Republicans than the DC Madam.

  134. 3b says:

    Chgo you buy floaters for your retail clients? Not typical a retail product with 100m denoms. Just curious.

  135. 3b says:

    I don’t identify left or right but seriously the so called left is becoming unhinged!!

  136. 3b says:

    Steam thanks appreciate it. I am in awe of you you are the master of el cheap o!!

  137. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @SenWarren

    This is not normal. This is not fake news.

    This is a very real & serious threat to the national security of the United States.

  138. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Russia…so scary. Except of course, when negotiating a Uranium for a Clinton Foundation donation deal.

    Anon, are you wearing a white dress?

  139. Grim says:

    Christie AG

  140. Fast Eddie says:

    Omg, I found Anon puzzy on Youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Quv42iE68

  141. Yome says:

    There’s a growing divergence between the optimism seen by stock market traders, business executives and consumers, and actual economic activity.

    The Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow model for GDP growth, which mashes 13 subcomponents together, was cut on Thursday to 1.8% from 2.5%, marking its lowest forecast for the quarter. The biggest culprit was the weak consumer spending revealed in Thursday’s personal consumption expenditure report.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gdp-estimate-cuts-show-divergence-between-economic-activity-and-optimism-2017-03-01

  142. Ottoman says:

    Translation:

    I’m easily swayed by empty rhetoric and lofty words with no substance or plans to back them up but I’ll continue to call the Hope and Change crowd stupid because I’m too smart to fall for such nonsense. Now where’s my effing tax credit for owning a house because that creates jobs and I don’t rely on gubbermint handouts!

    Grim says:
    March 1, 2017 at 7:06 am
    Overall, Trump did a good job.
    Grim says:
    March 1, 2017 at 7:11 am
    Went high when his critics went low. Democrats looking silly this morning. Left leaning media being critically nitpicky during the speech last night now looking petty.
    Fast Eddie says:
    March 1, 2017 at 7:39 am
    Homerun! Reaganesque. I was floored! You lefty misfits are DOA!

  143. The Original NJ Expat says:

    nwnj3 – He is a marketing genius. The left came up with the term “Fake News” immediately after the election ans one of the main factors in Trump’s win. After all, the “Real News” told voters who to vote for every day and they didn’t obey, so the fault had to lie with the “Fake News”. They intended that label to be applied to Infowars, WND, Twitter, Blogs, etc. Instead, Trump turned it around and now when voters think of “Fake News”, they think of the NY Times, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Well played sir, well played.

    I hope after relegating the mainstream media to tabloid status Trump finds the time to destroy the progressive movement. It is a destructive force by nature so all he needs to do is find a way to turn it against itself.

  144. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    The left can spin it however they choose. The truth is, the concept of Russia and the United States becoming military allies to tamp down ISIS, is the most brilliant political strategy since dropping the atomic bombs on Japan. Obama’s only strategy was to give the house away in negotiations with known terrorists. I’m not surprised the left is jealous.

    Did anyone read this yesterday? https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-democrats-abandon-the-ship-of-state-1488413264

    Though this whole Russian thing amounts to little more than fake news, I do give the left props for continuing to parade this fiction to no end. To the tea-party set, being anti-Russia is about as American as apple pie. I’d like to think that this is the first strategy the Left has employed that at least makes a little sense. But it backfires terribly when you are simultaneously pushing an agenda of love trumps hate.

  145. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Footstool – Take a good look in the mirror while reading your own words below.

    I’m easily swayed by empty rhetoric and lofty words with no substance or plans to back them up

  146. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Eddie,

    That’s some funny sh1t but it’s a spoof. Same comedian does a Trump version.

    If I can find it again, I’ll post anon’s trans photo.

  147. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Now I’m sorry that I didn’t watch the speech.

  148. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    If it were me, I would have scheduled the speech during the Oscars.

    Just cuz …

  149. jcer says:

    Stu, since you are the master of the cheap,live in Essex and are giving out contractor references… Do you have a tree guy, a chimney guy and a painter who are good and charge a fair price? I also could use the gutter guy as well. Thanks.

  150. The Original NJ Expat says:

    That would have been construed as anti-gay.

    If it were me, I would have scheduled the speech during the Oscars.

  151. Fast Eddie says:

    Otto,

    Awww… do you feel irrelevant, sweetie?

  152. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Wow, looks like anon’s family was out there as well

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/style/lady-part-costumes-ruled-the-womens-march-171016296.html

    And lest he/she/it thinks I’m opposed to ab0rtion rights, not true. I fervently wish puzzy’s mother had one every time she got knocked up.

  153. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Eddie,

    Now, now, Otto needs its safe space.

    And I’ll see if my 7yo will part with some crayons and coloring books for it

  154. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Expat,

    The liberal stranglehold on education manifests itself clearly when we read comment’s like Otto’s. I’m so happy that I got through school before that really took hold and I became addled on the Victory Gin of liberal brainwashing.

  155. Fast Eddie says:

    Otto,

    Sit! Gimme your paw! Good puppy! Here’s your biscuit!

  156. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Eddie,

    Hysterical. If I could, I would take out insurance policy on him and make sure it was one without a suicide exclusion. He’ll be dead before 30.

  157. Newbomb Turk says:

    9:06 – There goes the neighborhood.

  158. Newbomb Turk says:

    damn Otto- you hit a nerve!!

  159. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    New bomb,

    Nah. It’s just a convenient foil, and one who readily volunteers for the part.

    And we get to blow off some stress with verbal wack-a-mole.

    (in case it isn’t clear to everyone, I am referring to Otto, puzzy, PL and their ilk as “it” because we really don’t know their gender and we don’t want to trigger them by calling them one they are not.)

  160. Fast Eddie says:

    Isn’t it beautiful to watch the left perform their Fukushima impersonations on a daily basis?

  161. Anon E. Moose, Ghost of JJ says:

    @MZHemingway

    Yep, guys, Jeff Sessions is a Russian agent.
    You don’t sound 100% unhinged at all.

    https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/837161745663864832

  162. Newbomb Turk says:

    9:51 you should get a proper hobby.

  163. Newbomb Turk says:

    9:47 funny to watch regardless.

  164. yome says:

    Barnes and Noble lowers guidance due to lower sale of Coloring Books

    “Now, now, Otto needs its safe space.

    And I’ll see if my 7yo will part with some crayons and coloring books for it”

  165. The Original NJ Expat says:

    That was pretty efficient. If anybody needs these numbers in the future just google this site for these words:

    treeguy
    gutterguy
    chimneyguy

    3b/JCer

    http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq145/stuw6/contractors_zpseirmwuol.png

  166. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I was just about to ask if anyone else besides me thinks of this when they hear anything about Russia. Apparently at least one other person already has:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfgNls6w2_Y

  167. D-FENS says:

    New information regarding Ben Carson’s ties to Russia

    https://twitter.com/waynedupreeshow/status/837331721364340736

  168. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Yome,

    Damn straight. I swear we are keeping that place afloat.

  169. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Moose, Stu, Expat,

    Got a new one on FB you’ll like.

  170. 3b says:

    Got a price for a new deck from a guy I use and trust. He does not do ladders either. Anyhow 12×30 pressure treated lumber basic deck all in for 3300.00 cash. Sounds right to me. Myself and brother in law could do but don’t have time etc. what say you stu on price?

  171. jcer says:

    Thanks Stu.

  172. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Sounds almost too good. I imagine it’s not high off the ground. How many cement anchors are we talking? Also, try to have him throw in the initial weather proofing which you have to do every two years. Watch him do it and you’ll know how to do it yourself in 2019.

  173. 3b says:

    He is a local guy. Good and I trust him. He recently painted the entire downstairs including some ruling and wall repairs new fixtures in bathroom and assorted other tasks all for 2300.00 I don’t do anything anymore! Deck is 6 inches off the ground. I believe 14 anchors. I can stain and may do that myself.

  174. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Excellent price then.

  175. chicagofinance says:

    I can find floaters in $10K par blocks…… works best with $25K, $50K, $100K

    3b says:
    March 2, 2017 at 8:17 am
    Chgo you buy floaters for your retail clients? Not typical a retail product with 100m denoms. Just curious.

  176. 3b says:

    Chgo be careful on the minimum denomination issue.

  177. 3b says:

    Thanks stu. That’s what I thought.

  178. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @thenation

    Assuming a lawless Attorney General will not do the right thing,

    then impeachment is the right response.

  179. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Puzzy,

    “Assuming a lawless Attorney General will not do the right thing,

    then impeachment is the right response.”

    LOL. I could not agree more. Do you actually read the tweets you repost?

  180. Topper says:

    3b – does your handy guy handle work in northern Bergen county by chance? Any recommendations from the board? Looking for a true handyman type – painting, faucets, etc.

  181. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @SenSchumer

    Because the Department of Justice should be above reproach,

    for the good of the country,

    the Attorney General should resign.

  182. Topper says:

    BTW – I see someone asked about the uberinspector the other day. From my personal experience – way overrated. Does cursory work, talks up his game – especially playing with his thermal imaging gizmo, doesn’t through and takes the check. Your experience may differ. May be that we perhaps sent too much business from this board.

  183. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Hunter Biden should recuse himself from investigating his SIL’s hoo-hah.

  184. jcer says:

    Topper, I used him, he seems OK, if not a bit expensive for what he does. He definitely missed some stuff and made some mistakes in his report.

  185. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Topper

    Or perhaps, he’s just getting lazier as he gets older. Was great for many of us. Shame he’s not anymore.

  186. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Puzzy

    “@SenSchumer
    Because the Department of Justice should be above reproach,
    for the good of the country, the Attorney General should resign.”

    Been saying that for the past eight years.

    This is great stuff Puzzy, keep it coming

  187. chicagofinance says:

    I use TRACE

    3b says:
    March 2, 2017 at 11:56 am
    Chgo be careful on the minimum denomination issue.

  188. The Original NJ Expat says:

    It would be funny if Sessions and Flynn met on the tarmac somewhere.

  189. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Expat,

    My daughter is friends with one of the Biden nieces. We may see another SIL at a social next week. Gonna be hard to act like I’ve been too busy to watch the news.

  190. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @RepJudyChu

    Jeff Sessions lied to his Senate colleagues & American people about his meetings w/ Russians.

    He has betrayed trust already & must resign.

  191. 3b says:

    Chgo got it when you said floaters I was thinking of muni floaters which typically have denoms of 100m

  192. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    Twitiot, here’s some social media reading for you. Let me know if you need help with the big words

    http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/Alert%20Memo%202017-23.pdf

  193. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about nearly everything.

    We should run her for president!

  194. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Too good to be true. I would be hesitant, but you very well might get lucky. I know too many people that had to learn the hard way that when it comes to work on your home, if the price is too good to be true, then it prob is best be avoided. But I don’t know a damn thing about the details, but it seems too good to be true.

    3b says:
    March 2, 2017 at 11:34 am
    Got a price for a new deck from a guy I use and trust. He does not do ladders either. Anyhow 12×30 pressure treated lumber basic deck all in for 3300.00 cash. Sounds right to me. Myself and brother in law could do but don’t have time etc. what say you stu on price?

  195. 3b says:

    Pumps I am no fool. I have used this guy before and he always does quality work. Retired long time resident of my town. Recommended by friends as well. I pay cash. I trust him and going with him.

  196. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What’s the sq footage? All I can say is wow. How does this guy survive on this pricing?

    3b says:
    March 2, 2017 at 11:46 am
    He is a local guy. Good and I trust him. He recently painted the entire downstairs including some ruling and wall repairs new fixtures in bathroom and assorted other tasks all for 2300.00 I don’t do anything anymore! Deck is 6 inches off the ground. I believe 14 anchors. I can stain and may do that myself.

  197. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hey, more power to you. You def lucked out. This guy is def an idiot who likes wasting precious time helping people out in his town.

    3b says:
    March 2, 2017 at 1:45 pm
    Pumps I am no fool. I have used this guy before and he always does quality work. Retired long time resident of my town. Recommended by friends as well. I pay cash. I trust him and going with him.

  198. 3b says:

    360 square feet. The guy is retired does this on the side.

  199. jcer says:

    3b, I know people like that and yes they make very little on the work. You can get a good deal when people are doing side work but on a down side they usually don’t like to travel much or at all to do work. Also CASH is king, I usually pay my mechanic in cash and I get a good deal, it allows the provider to skim some money tax free if that is there thing(most cash businesses do a little skimming, some more than others).

  200. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Good stuff. Get as much work done as you can before he stops all together.

    3b says:
    March 2, 2017 at 1:51 pm
    360 square feet. The guy is retired does this on the side.

  201. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Pumpkin – if you understood math, you could have calculated the square footage yourself, but sadly you don’t.

    Relevant questions would be:
    Height above ground?
    Anchored to house or free-standing?
    Design of the support structure?

    IIRC, grim had a premium, free standing deck built in the last couple years and I think he went with a pricey wood substitute. He would be the guy who knows.

  202. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    That deck price is excellent, but so many people nowadays, especially the newer generations, are used to being fleeced for everything. Their parents never let their delicate snowflakes lift a hammer or turn a screwdriver and the cost of minor repairs are really going to take a bite out of their income. I easily save 5% of my salary a year by doing it myself. Maybe more.

    Yesterday, I hung a large picture frame (16 x 20) in my son’s room. He now knows how to measure for center and how to properly hang a picture hook into plaster among 100s of other things. He’s 11. BTW, if you didn’t know, these are the best hooks ever. Forget anchors and mollys. https://www.amazon.com/55505-50-Pound-Professional-Picture-Hangers/dp/B000F5WHAQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1488481998&sr=8-6&keywords=OOK+picture+hooks

  203. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    I think it’s code to anchor it to the house.

  204. 3b says:

    Ex it’s 6 inches off ground. Not anchored to house otherwise becomes part of structure and taxes go up. It’s going over and existing concrete flag stone patio that is falling apart. Just want something neat clean and useable.

  205. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    I would anchor it and forget about the permit. Then again 14 supports sounds like overkill, so I doubt it will move.

  206. 3b says:

    Steam my late father and law and I built a deck together many years ago on first house in July. Learned so much from him. It’s just not something I want to do at this point. Same thing with painting my wife and I used to paint all the time. Just would rather have fun now!

  207. topper says:

    jcer/Steam – yup…think he may be getting a bit fat in the belly lately. I wouldn’t have known otherwise but I had another guy handle an inspection at another home 3-4 weeks before meeting up with uberinspector (uber couldn’t fit me in for the prior inspection) so I had a good base for comparison. Uber was more expensive and spent perhaps 45 minutes or so on the inspection (the other guy over 2 hours, got on the roof, etc.) – half the time talking up his business to my realtor and the other half mostly showing me thermal images. As I said before, your experience may differ and he may have done (and still do) great work before for many.

  208. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Always have to belittle me. Question, how old are you? What did you have at my age? I’m not saying I have much, but it’s a hell of lot better than 95% of the people my age (36).

    The Original NJ Expat says:
    March 2, 2017 at 2:09 pm
    Pumpkin – if you understood math, you could have calculated the square footage yourself, but sadly you don’t.

  209. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And I was asking for the sq footage of his first floor for the painting. Not the deck, you a$$hole.

  210. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @delrayser

    “I did not have international relations with that country.”

  211. D-FENS says:

    http://www.syracuse.com/state/index.ssf/2017/03/snowshoe_racer_from_india_charged_with_sexual_assault_in_upstate_ny.html

    SARANAC LAKE, N.Y. (AP) — A 24-year-old snowshoe racer from India has been charged in New York’s Adirondack Mountains with sexual assault and endangering the welfare of a child.

    Tanveer Hussain, of Kashmir, who competed last weekend at the World Snowshoe Championships in Saranac Lake, is accused of sexually abusing a local girl.

    Abid Khan, another snowshoer in town for the competition, denied the charges, according to the Adirondack Daily Enterprise.

    The two were denied visas three weeks ago on the eve of the competition, the newspaper reported. School children and the local mayor and Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand spoke out in their favor, and the two were ultimately granted permission to come, the newspaper reported.

  212. D-FENS says:

    Philip Bump
    @pbump

    Put together a timeline on what Sessions did and said, and am now thinking that Dems are overplaying their hand.

    https://twitter.com/pbump/status/837310235823919106

  213. D-FENS says:

    @pbump

    Talked to two former federal prosecutors: Sessions won’t face perjury charges based on the evidence at hand.

  214. D-FENS says:

    http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/news/local-news/2017/03/indian-snowshoer-charged-with-sexual-abuse/

    SARANAC LAKE — Village police Wednesday arrested a snowshoe racer from India, whom the community wholeheartedly welcomed for this past weekend’s World Snowshoe Championships, after a local girl accused him of sexually abusing her.

    Tanveer Hussain, 24, of Kashmir, India, stands charged with first-degree sexual abuse, a felony, and endangering the welfare of a child, a misdemeanor. First-degree sexual abuse, according to New York law, means the perpetrator “subjects another person to sexual contact” without consent, in this case because the alleged victim is under age 13 and legally too young to give consent.

    Police Sgt. Casey Reardon said the girl and her parents reported the alleged abuse to police. It allegedly took place around 5 p.m. Monday at a location on Park Avenue in the town of St. Armand portion of the village, but Reardon didn’t give more specifics. He did not give the girl’s exact age or identity.

    (snip)

    Hussain and Khan were celebrities here at this weekend’s snowshoe events due to the effort it took to get them here. Three weeks ago, the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi denied their visa applications, reportedly thinking they might not return home due to a lack of “strong ties” to their home country. Village Mayor Clyde Rabideau, who had met them at last year’s championships in Italy and invited them to come here, reached out for help from New York’s U.S. senators, Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand. Seventh-graders from Saranac Lake Middle School wrote letters to the senators on the Indians’ behalf. As their plight drew media attention here and in their home country, the senators contacted the embassy, which let the men resubmit their visa applications — and approved them.

    The visa denial happened around the same time President Donald Trump issued an order barring travel into the U.S. from seven countries. India was not one of them, but many local people associated the two developments and went out of their way to welcome these Muslim foreigners.

  215. grim says:

    While my deck appears to be free standing, it is not anchored to the house – did this on purpose as I was not interested in dealing with all the related issues. The cost to fully free-stand was minimal, 4 additional piers and another beam.

  216. STEAMturd, aka ValuePenguin says:

    Flashing and spacing (with rubber washers) is all you need to avoid problems. Sadly, contractors can get away with murder today since those who hire them are completely clueless.

  217. grim says:

    Eh, I had other reasons too, the house has a 2′ cantilever off the back – attaching a deck would have required engineering as well.

  218. chicagofinance says:

    Did you hear the one about the prostitute with an appendicitis?

    They sewed up the wrong hole and now she makes money on the side……..

    3b says:
    March 2, 2017 at 1:51 pm
    360 square feet. The guy is retired does this on the side.

  219. Newbomb Turk says:

    4:12 brutal

  220. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Grim, in mod.

    It’s about AC.

  221. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Pumps – In case you haven’t noticed, you croon this sad tune over and over and over and over and over again…I guess seeking some validation from a stand-in father figure? Sorry Dad was a criminal and had to leave you behind. Doesn’t he tell you how great you are over Skype? That should be enough.

    Always have to belittle me. Question, how old are you? What did you have at my age? I’m not saying I have much, but it’s a hell of lot better than 95% of the people my age (36).

  222. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My call on AC looking better by the day.

  223. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Expat, maybe I’m proud I made something out of nothing in an era in which children were not likely to do better than their parents. It’s called pride biatch! And it feels great!

  224. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Democrats are “lighting their hair on fire”, according to Speaker Ryan. Sources say Elizabeth Warren ruined her skirt.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/democrats-lighting-their-hair-on-fire-over-sessions-russia-story-ryan-says-2017-03-02

  225. The Original NJ Expat says:

    To twist Margaret Thatcher’s words just a bit: “Being proud is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t.” (I substituted “proud” for “powerful”)

    Expat, maybe I’m proud I made something out of nothing in an era in which children were not likely to do better than their parents. It’s called pride biatch! And it feels great!

  226. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @MaxBoot

    Recusal isn’t enough.

    As I wrote in @latimes, we need a special counsel to uncover the truth about Kremlingate.

  227. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Pumps – If it helps, we’re all proud of you for not being deported for being involved in organized crime. You did better than your parents…so far.

  228. The Original NJ Expat says:

    OTOH, If you trade up to Urban Club Road…we’ll know you went into the family business.

  229. The Original NJ Expat says:

    Obama should recuse himself from investigating Valerie Jarrett’s framazama.

  230. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @michaelstjames

    “I don’t believe so”
    “I don’t recall”
    “Not sure”

    Boy, this #Sessions fella has a horrible memory for someone who doesn’t smoke weed.

  231. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Bill Clinton lied under oath. Schemer gave him a pass.

    Mic drop

  232. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Schumer. Dammit even my phone hates the guy

  233. The Original NJ Expat says:

    I wonder how much daylight happens each day when Hillary doesn’t drink or act abusively.

  234. Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

    Puzzy,

    “Boy, this #Sessions fella has a horrible memory for someone who doesn’t smoke weed”

    It must be something about the job. I seem to recall Eric Holder having a lot of memory problems too.

    Come on, puzzy. Are you going to keep walking into these all night?

  235. The Original NJ Expat says:

    The Democrat party is melting, melting, melting. I can’t believe how badly they are shrinking into a thimble.

  236. Newbomb Turk says:

    Not surprising, the DEMS are marginalized. At least until his Yugeness does some horribly silly, or dies.

  237. Newbomb Turk says:

    BTW, Obama’s out of office, not sure some of ya’ll realize that just yet.

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