Snow Day Jobs Day!

From Bloomberg:

U.S. Added Fewer Jobs Than Expected in December

U.S. payroll gains slowed by more than forecast in December, wages picked up slightly and the jobless rate held at the lowest level since 2000, adding to signs of a full-employment economy.

Employers added 148,000 workers, compared with the 190,000 median estimate of economists surveyed by Bloomberg, held back by a drop in retail positions, a Labor Department report showed Friday. The jobless rate was at 4.1 percent for a third month, while average hourly earnings increased by 2.5 percent from a year earlier, after a 2.4 percent gain in November that was revised downward.

“It’s a little soft across the board but overall, when you’re this close to full employment, I think it’s reasonable to see some slowdown in job gains,” said Jeremy Schwartz, a U.S. economist at Credit Suisse in New York. “This year we should probably expect to see some slowdowns in job gains — it’s just harder to add jobs when there’s a smaller pool to choose from.”

“This is a benign slowdown,” Schwartz said. “The Fed would probably be happy to see this slowdown.”

The breakdown of December data across industries showed solid gains of 30,000 in construction and 25,000 in manufacturing. Retailers cut 20,300 positions during the height of the holiday-shopping season, bringing total gains among service providers to 91,000, down from 176,000 in November.

Revisions to prior reports subtracted a total of 9,000 jobs from payrolls in the previous two months, according to the report. November’s reading was revised upward to 252,000 from 228,000.

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182 Responses to Snow Day Jobs Day!

  1. grim says:

    +210k

  2. ExJersey says:

    Sessions: Make Drug Cartels Great Again!

  3. Fast Eddie says:

    The DOW is up 37% sine Trump got elected and now with the tax cuts, the train will boost returns even more! Let it ride!

  4. ExJersey says:

    He’s toast after the midterms. Watch.

  5. ExJersey says:

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    ‘He’s losing it fast’: Former member of Congress predicts Trump will be ‘out of office before the midterms’

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    31 JUL 2017 AT 15:56 ET
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    Economist and former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich revealed a shocking conversation he had with a former member of Congress in a Facebook post Monday.

    The post, which was published before Anthony Scaramucci was removed as White House communication’s director, paints a picture of a government in chaos.

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    When Reich suggested that the White House was imploding and the GOP was heading down with the ship, the member laughed, saying “we’re officially in a banana republic.”

    “They’re convinced Trump is out of his gourd,” the former member revealed. “Remember what I told you at the start of this circus? They planned to use Trump’s antics for cover, to get done what they most wanted – big tax cuts, rollbacks of regulations, especially financial. They’d work with Pence behind the scenes and forget the crazy uncle in the attic.”

    He then corrected himself saying that he’s hearing that Attorney General Jeff Sessions “is pissing them off.” He said that Republicans in the caucus anticipate Trump will hurt them in 2018 and 2020.

    “They want him out [of] there,” he continued, saying that they’re hoping special counsel Robert Mueller comes up with a “smoking gun.” When asked what they would do if Trump fired Mueller, he claimed it would never happen.

    If Trump isn’t gone by the 2020 elections they intend to put someone up against him.

    “Lots of maneuvering already. Pence, obviously. Cruz thinks he has a shot,” the member said. Until then, they think Trump is “fritzing out,” which he explained was “going totally bananas” with “paranoia.”

  6. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    elwctrician said no problem, but the contract is still being negotiated.
    to give you perspective, we are talking about a house that Fast Eddie would never be able to afford

    grim says:
    January 3, 2018 at 7:53 am
    Between the Lutron Caseta, Ecobee, and Ring, you’ll have pretty much everything covered – automated lighting/power, hvac, and basic security. I think Wink makes the best smart home hub, very easy to use, broad compatibility as well.

  7. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @CNBCnow

    BREAKING: US economy added 148K jobs in December vs. 190K expected

  8. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @TheStalwart

    Mediocre numbers.

    Jobs comes in at just 148K.
    Wages come in in line, but last month revised a tick lower.

    Unemployment steady but underemployment ticks higher.

  9. Hold my beer says:

    Changed almost all of the rooms to led. Definitely better light than cfl. The led doesn’t have the shadows in the edges of the room like cfl did and I can read using the lights of a 2700k soft white. 2700k cfl always felt too dim and caused us to use the daylight cfl.

    I am estimating it will take about 6 months for the new bulbs to pay or themselves in energy savings.

  10. A Home Buyer says:

    LED tidbit of the day.

    As LED lighting becomes more popular, light pollution is increasing and causing its own ecological problems for nocturnal ecosystems.

    You can throw up more long lasting LEDs on the same circuit for cheaper as compared to the old metal halide or incandescents… means the night sky disappears.

    (also why energy codes are becoming so strict and BUG rated luminaries are now required in many outdoor areas)

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    to give you perspective, we are talking about a house that Fast Eddie would never be able to afford

    Don’t suggest a challenge unless you’re absolutely certain you can win.

  12. ExJersey says:

    8:50 ur not fooling anymore you f’in piker.

  13. Fast Eddie says:

    He’s toast after the midterms. Watch.

    Pence is fine. He’ll carry the torch. As long as the Republicans keep appointing judges to undermine the pathetic, warped visions of the left, all will be well. We got the tax cuts which will fuel returns and we may get another one on the Supreme Court. Keep searching for an entry or a purpose, for the matter. And I’m not referring to you in particular, I’m referring to the social justice warriors; the same group pining for a gender-less, nameless and rudderless society.

  14. yome says:

    My first lawn mower lasted me 12 years. All i did is dusted the filter. Did not replace, dusted. Never drain oil,just add oil when down. I replaced blade once. Bought it in 1994 replaced in 2006. The replacement i treat the same. Whatever gas is left stays at the end of season and mower is stored in a cold shed. Always bought a cheap toro. I bought a portable snow blower last year. Treated the same way. Put gas, push primer 5 times and pulled starter. No problem yesterday. Now i am crossing my fingers it stays that way

  15. ExJersey says:

    9:04 ur a retard.

  16. yome says:

    My 2002 Merc had 203,000 miles on it. It had a lifetime enclosed transmission fluid. My mechanic insisted in replacing fluid. I called dealer and explained. Just leave it if it lasted this long. I went with what the mechanic suggested and replaced fluid. 3 months later, transmission went.

  17. ExJersey says:

    What you might not see is that the tax cut will benefit my family. Let’s call that Trump’s win. But look at all of the other things he’s doing to not only try to punish places that didn’t vote for him. Pathetic and incredibly stupid.

  18. chicagofinance says:

    Then don’t post your claptrap…….

    Fabius Maximus says:
    January 4, 2018 at 8:07 pm
    Chi, I’m not in the persuasiveness business, are you?

  19. yome says:

    The U.S. economy added 2 million jobs in 2017, another solid year of gains.

    In December, the economy added 148,000 jobs, according to Labor Department figures released Friday. That was below what economists expected, but still the 87th straight month of gains — the longest streak on record.

    Unemployment remained at 4.1%, matching the lowest level in 17 years.

    Wages grew 2.5% compared with a year ago. Wages still aren’t growing as quickly as the Federal Reserve would like, one reason so many Americans still feel left out of the recovery from the Great Recession.

    Last year’s job gains were below those of previous years.

    The United States added almost 3 million jobs in 2014, 2.7 million in 2015 and 2.2 million in 2016. That trend is what’s expected in such a long economic expansion. As unemployment moves to historic lows, job gains eventually slow down.

  20. grim says:

    means the night sky disappears.

    Where do you live that you see the sky?

    The night sky in NJ has been defined by the dim orange glow of sodium-vapor for decades.

  21. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    It’s greenish in parts of the Ridge.

  22. grim says:

    Mercury Vapor

  23. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @StevenTDennis

    Fire and Fury is #1 on Amazon in USA & Canada.
    #2 on Amazon UK.
    #3 on Amazon Mexico.

  24. A Home Buyer says:

    I grew up in the more rural regions of New Jersey. Moved to the more populated areas after college and worked in the NYC region for a decade.

    I now live elsewhere, where the state’s total population is only slightly more then the population of Bergen County… but has a greater total area compared to NJ as a whole.

  25. Njescapee says:

    The Keys has large areas without light especially after Irma.

  26. Phoenix says:

    Define a “Job.” What is considered a job today? If I hired 10 kids to shovel my sidewalk, I guess I added 10 jobs. Part time or full time? Temporary or permanent? Benefits or no benefits, insourced,outsourced, person on a VISA program?

    That’s the problem. Also lets take half the posters on here and move them into the worst houses in NJ, use your own visions of that. Now say that you own your own house. See the issue?

    A job is not a job, a house is not a house, a car is not a car.

    148,000 jobs is meaningless unless you know what kind of jobs they are. Take a huge demotion at your job and tell me otherwise.

    “The economy added 148,000 jobs

  27. Juice Box says:

    There is a map for everything these days. Getting to a 100% dark sky is not possible without spending an entire day driving up to Maine.

    http://darksitefinder.com/maps/world.html

  28. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    I know some night workers who provided 10 new jobs a shift. Off the books most likely.

  29. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    The top of Mauna Kea provides some pretty incredible viewing. Just ask Moana. Oh wait. He was too busy asking for directions to Space Mountain when he visited Hawaii.

  30. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    “I know some night workers who provided 10 new jobs a shift. Off the books most likely.”

    Talking about jobs that blow!

  31. grim says:

    Interesting stat from an article over at Business Insider.

    Black unemployment now at a record/historic low – 6.8%

    Still work to do, but something that should be celebrated, no?

  32. leftwing says:

    “Economist and former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich ….”

    Stopped reading right there. Zero credibility opinion.

  33. Bloomberg News says:

    6.8%…according to CNBC ..lowest since 1972

  34. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @grossdm
    and yet people at the Fed and professional economists remain genuinely mystified as to why wages don’t rise.

    @pdacosta
    In 2015, there were 7.6 million union members in the private sector, 4.4 million fewer than in 1983

  35. leftwing says:

    Juice was going to post something similar. There is one place in the Adirondacks that has some of the least light east of the Mississippi. We go up there annually. Need to schedule around the new moon for photos. Grew up with those skies, and it still sucks the breath out of me hopping on the water at midnight and looking up. Truly stunning, the constellations disappear, the Milky Way is right in your face with detail. Really knock your socks off and bring even just a decent pair of binoculars. Wish I could post a link, my son’s website has some crazy photos. Can’t keep the exposure more than 15 seconds otherwise the stars produce trails due to the earth’s rotation.

  36. A Home Buyer says:

    We have an annual trip to the ADK as well. Far side of a lake… No hiking or car access for miles.

    Absolutely beautiful night sky this year when we went.

  37. grim says:

    Best night skies I’ve seen were Hawaii.

  38. grim says:

    Y’all don’t know what the Milky Way is until you’ve seen it in real darkness.

  39. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    Were you aware that all of the street lights on the Big Island have shields that make sure all night light is projected downward as not to interfere with the observatories on top of Moanakea? Even the vehicles that are permitted to drive on the mountain road at night must have those top half shielded headlights, like from WWII.

  40. Libturd, being JJ says:

    “Y’all don’t know what the Milky Way is until you’ve seen it in real darkness.”

    Or felt it. There was this one chick I used to bang on the side who always insisted on doing it with the lights on. She was smokin’ so of course, I obliged. If it weren’t for her glasses she would have gotten a real closeup of the Milky Way.

  41. ExJersey says:

    10:45 hahaha probably should have posted the CNBC piece.

    Either way i can find you something to slip into the echo chamber.

  42. Bloomberg News says:

    …heard it live on TV

  43. leftwing says:

    Echo chamber? Reich admits forthrightly his biases. He’s unabashed about them, proud.

    Methinks the echo chamber goes the other way.

  44. A Home Buyer says:

    Lib,

    Those are BUG rated lights.

    No backlight, uplight, or glare. BUG

  45. leftwing says:

    HomeBuyer, us too. Which part of ADK? High peaks and north, or central? Please don’t say Lake George region ;)

  46. leftwing says:

    “If it weren’t for her glasses she would have gotten a real closeup of the Milky Way.”

    Yeah, that’s why I always put them on top outside. Better view.

  47. ExJersey says:

    12:45 i like Reich. But then i’m pro-union.

  48. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Politics! Book seems pretty on point.

    “When Christie dropped out of the presidential race after poor showings in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primaries and endorsed Trump, the governor did so with the understanding that Trump would give him a “clear track” to the vice presidential slot, the book said.

    “It had personally pained Trump not to be able to give it to him,” Wolff wrote. “But if the Republican establishment had not wanted Trump, they had not wanted Christie almost as much.”
    Instead, Christie settled for the consolation prize of leading the transition committee and the expectation of a key job such as attorney general or chief of staff. Christie was Trump’s third choice as chief of staff after advisers talked the president out of naming Jared Kushner or Tom Barrack, a Los Angeles financier and Trump friend, the book said. Then Ivanka intervened, apparently on behalf of her husband.”

    http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2018/01/05/trump-fancied-being-christies-vice-president-2012-book-says/1007148001/

  49. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Based on the Reich article from July about trump, seems dead on reading that in hindsight. GOP def used trump to get this done. Soon they will feed him to the wolves after they get what they want.

  50. A Home Buyer says:

    Lake George can burn.

    Our location is right at the border of Central, tupper, and Saranac regions.

  51. leftwing says:

    Nice. Pretty area. We’re nearby, especially by ADK standards.

  52. Juice Box says:

    re: The book.

    How isn’t this book just Gossip?

    In the introduction to Fire and Fury, Wolff attempts to head off inevitable questions about the veracity of his stories. “Many of the accounts of what has happened in the Trump White House are in conflict with one another; many, in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue,” he wrote, saying he would allow readers to figure out which were true and which were false.

  53. D-FENS says:

    Are you guys still talking about lights?

  54. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Being on top of the volcano on the big island at night, it was ridiculous how many stars were visible.

  55. nwnj says:

    Reich is a hack. He supports NAFTA and open borders. Any questions?

  56. chicagofinance says:

    ExJersey says:
    January 5, 2018 at 12:54 pm
    12:45 i like Reich. But then i’m pro-union.
    https://youtu.be/8bfyS-S-IJs?t=1m9s

  57. chicagofinance says:

    “A New Jersey politician is a guy who is born poor but honest, and spends a lifetime trying to overcome those habits.”

    “In New Jersey, if you are not getting something for nothing, you aren’t getting your fair share.”

    Brendan Byne

  58. chicagofinance says:

    I love Mauna Kea.
    3PM Hapuna Beach – 92 and sunny
    7PM dinner in Waimea – 60’s and raining
    9PM Mauna Kea observatory – 34 and clear

    Still #1 night sky is top of Mount Sinai in 1990….. I can’t vouch for how much building has occurred in the last 25+ years……. no humidity aloft and no light except Cairo and Eilat in the far far distance……..

    grim says:
    January 5, 2018 at 11:28 am
    Best night skies I’ve seen were Hawaii.

    grim says:
    January 5, 2018 at 11:29 am
    Y’all don’t know what the Milky Way is until you’ve seen it in real darkness.

  59. No One says:

    Fun fact – my high school and college astronomy teachers each ended up arrested for molesting boys.
    Astronomy was a great excuse for him to take kids out to the low light pollution darkness out of town and have overnight astronomy adventures, so apparently it draws a special kind of teacher. A catholic priest astronomy enthusiast – don’t let your sons go.
    Fortunately, I wasn’t one of their victims, probably too old.

  60. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @SteveRattner

    Increase in Dow under:
    – Obama from Jan 20, 2009 to Jan 4, 2010: 33.2%
    – Trump from Jan 20, 2017 to Jan 4, 2018: 26.5%

    Increase in S&P under:
    – Obama from Jan 20, 2009 to Jan 4, 2010: 40.7%
    – Trump from Jan 20, 2017 to Jan 4, 2018: 20.0%

  61. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @ezraklein

    One thing I struggle with here is what difference a psychiatric diagnosis makes in assessing Trump. His unfitness for the presidency isn’t hidden. Whether it’s related to a specific malady or it’s just who he is doesn’t change much for me.

  62. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Wasn’t he toast before the general too? Any poll that begins with a network name is bogus by definition. I’m pretty certain GOP will gain in the Senate, probably both houses.

    He’s toast after the midterms. Watch.

  63. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The stock market is a forward looking indicator, so the below is contrived crap. Care to redo the numbers from the election forward?

    Increase in Dow under:
    – Obama from Jan 20, 2009 to Jan 4, 2010: 33.2%
    – Trump from Jan 20, 2017 to Jan 4, 2018: 26.5%

    Increase in S&P under:
    – Obama from Jan 20, 2009 to Jan 4, 2010: 40.7%
    – Trump from Jan 20, 2017 to Jan 4, 2018: 20.0%

  64. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The market was dying before the election, it was the election outcome that turned the frown upside down, not the inauguration.

  65. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    inheriting a market bottom and 0% interest rates make you look good by that measure. Meanwhile, your whole base screamed about how they need a wage increase and the declining standard of living your entire 8 years.

  66. ExJersey says:

    I was absent the day they covered wage and price controls in a free market.

  67. ExJersey says:

    Education Dartmouth College (BA)
    University College, Oxford (MPhil)
    Yale University (JD)
    Website Official website
    Reich has been the Chancellor’s Professor of Public Policy at the Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California, Berkeley since January 2006.[2] He was formerly a professor at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government[3] and professor of social and economic policy at the Heller School for Social Policy and Management of Brandeis University. He has also been a contributing editor of The New Republic, The American Prospect (also chairman and founding editor), Harvard Business Review, The Atlantic, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal.

    But the guys in my NJ real estate board have better credentials.

  68. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @NYDailyNews

    Just about everyone is opposed to Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ strict stance on marijuana

  69. joyce says:

    If I post a random link to another economist with an Ivy League education and other impressive “credentials” that happens to disagree with Reich, who wins?

    Pop a pill (or stop popping pills) and go back to the less crazy version of yourself.

    ExJersey says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:12 pm
    Education Dartmouth College (BA)
    University College, Oxford (MPhil)
    Yale University (JD)
    Website Official website
    Reich has been the Chancellor’s Professor of Public Policy at the Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California, Berkeley since January 2006.[2] He was formerly a professor at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government[3] and professor of social and economic policy at the Heller School for Social Policy and Management of Brandeis University. He has also been a contributing editor of The New Republic, The American Prospect (also chairman and founding editor), Harvard Business Review, The Atlantic, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal.

    But the guys in my NJ real estate board have better credentials.

  70. chicagofinance says:

    Reich is on the same spectrum as Krugman, but is not as bungling and lacking in self-control…… Reich also has the foresight to land lateral positions before getting fired from his current job…… a partisan hack masquerading as Peter Dinklage….

    ExJersey says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:12 pm
    But the guys in my NJ real estate board have better credentials.

  71. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    If that resume didn’t scream ivory tower…

  72. ExJersey says:

    You no likey…?

  73. leftwing says:

    “But the guys in my NJ real estate board have better credentials”

    Never questioned Reich’s credentials, know them well. Just noted his unabashed and proudly professed far Left view and agenda. I actually give him credit for doing so, most of his ilk (ahem) market that agenda telling you they are something else. If he’s got to be far Left, at least he’s self aware and honest about his views.

    To joyce’s point, credibility derives not just from credentials.

  74. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    is this a rhetorical question or do you actually have an example?

    joyce says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:54 pm
    If I post a random link to another economist with an Ivy League education and other impressive “credentials” that happens to disagree with Reich, who wins?

  75. leftwing says:

    On the other side of the spectrum, look at the carnival barker Rattner’s tweet. So much wrong there don’t even have the time to go into it.

  76. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @chrissgardner

    THIS.
    “Where do I send the box of chocolates? Not only is he helping me sell books, but he’s proving the point of the book,” said Wolff, adding,
    “This has not happened from other presidents, would not even happen from a CEO of a mid-size company.”

  77. leftwing says:

    Joyce, save your sanity and don’t get into a ‘credentials’ battle with the Left. They use credentials as air cover to promote their untenable ideas.

    Remember, you are dealing with the team whose member received a Nobel as a participation award, being nominated after a whopping two weeks in office. And they thought it was great.

  78. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @EzekielACLU

    Jeff Sessions refuses to accept overwhelming evidence that the War on Drugs has been an unmitigated disaster. Spouting prohibitionist propaganda, Sessions stumbles backwards on marijuana policy while the rest of America embraces reform.

  79. leftwing says:

    Puzzy – yawn – we get it. This one ain’t like the other ones. We’ll stipulate it and save you guys a bunch of server space.

    Anything else?

  80. joyce says:

    1) I’m somewhat impressed you seemed to have formed a complete sentence on your own.
    2) Anything Milton Friedman ever wrote or said.

    Awards:
    National Medal of Science (1988)
    Presidential Medal of Freedom (1988)
    Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (1976)
    John Bates Clark Medal (1951)

    Institutions:
    National Resources Planning Board (1935–37)
    National Bureau of Economic Research (1937–40)
    Columbia University (1937–41; 1943–45; 1964–65)
    University of Wisconsin, Madison (1940)
    U.S. Department of the Treasury (1941–43)
    University of Chicago (1946–77)
    University of Cambridge (1954–55)
    Hoover Institution (1977–2006)

    Education:
    Alma mater
    Rutgers University (BA)
    University of Chicago (MA)
    Columbia University (PhD)

    Contributions:
    Price theory · Monetarism
    Applied macroeconomics
    Floating exchange rates
    Permanent income hypothesis
    Helicopter money
    Volunteer military
    Natural rate of unemployment
    Friedman test

    Grab them by the puzzy says:
    January 5, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    is this a rhetorical question or do you actually have an example?

    joyce says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:54 pm
    If I post a random link to another economist with an Ivy League education and other impressive “credentials” that happens to disagree with Reich, who wins?

  81. leftwing says:

    The Puzzy mailbox is lighting up today with the idiot patrol….

    “Spouting prohibitionist propaganda, Sessions stumbles backwards on marijuana policy [read: enforcing Federal law] while the rest of America embraces reform.”

    All the wailers are making me laugh. Melissa Etheredge was on, talking about how Sessions actions [read: enforcing Federal law] is violating civil rights since drug laws lock up so many people.

    Various governors and mayors coming on saying to hell with the Feds, we are going to abide by our local law.

    Wonder if they have an opinion if Alabama decides to pass a law outlawing abortion, and simply decides to likewise ignore Federal law. What then.

  82. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Reich talks a good game sometimes, but he always seems to come up a little short;-)

  83. ExJersey says:

    5:14 really dredging up the stupid i see.

  84. leftwing says:

    ExJ, Then take the other side and debate. I’m particularly interested in how you reconcile the Nobel Committee’s defense of the award when criticized based on Obama’s ‘past actions’ with Obama’s own speech accepting it as a ‘challenge for the future’.

    All under the fact that the community organizer-less than one term Senator-in-Chief was nominated after two weeks in office.

  85. chicagofinance says:

    Best quote of 2018 so far……I think it will be for January too…..

    leftwing says:
    January 5, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    Wonder if they have an opinion if Alabama decides to pass a law outlawing abortion, and simply decides to likewise ignore Federal law. What then.

  86. chicagofinance says:

    so good…..

  87. 3b says:

    Left Anither civil war?

  88. 3b says:

    Left the left only recognizes faults if it’s on the other side. If it’s on their side they deltete it as it does not fit their narrative.

  89. 3b says:

    Not only did they think it was great they thought he deserved it!! For doing absolutely nothing!!

  90. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s weak. Comparison is in no way comparing apples to apples. Abortion is a complicated subject that has lasting implications.

    Legalizing weed does nothing but lower my tax bill and take a piece of organized crime tax revenue. Why? Everyone that wants to smoke it, is already smoking it with ease. What difference does it make if you make it legal or not. Only think you do by making it illegal is killing the taxpayer by forcing us to pay for someone to sit in jail at 2 to 3 times the cost of educating a child. Then we have to pay for the welfare of this individual when they get out of jail and can’t get a job. We also have to pay for the enforcement and prosecution of this law, and to sit here and defend it is criminal. It’s a got damn ripoff for the taxpayer and it’s huge revenue source for organized crime, knock out two birds with one stone and legalize it.

    Ps….Portugal legalized all drugs and solved their addiction problem..hmmm 🤔

    leftwing says:
    January 5, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    Wonder if they have an opinion if Alabama decides to pass a law outlawing abortion, and simply decides to likewise ignore Federal law. What then.

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Look at how much tax revenue legalization creates for these states. Did anything change? Did it ruin their society? Enough with the damn fear mongering and give the taxpayer a break by legalizing it.

  92. D-FENS says:

    @PhilMurphyNJ

    .@realDonaldTrump and the Republican Congress slammed NJ taxpayers by eliminating SALT. Today, we’re fighting back – the towns of Fair Lawn, Park Ridge, and Paramus will allow taxpayers to pay their taxes as charitable donations, preserving the deduction

  93. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    haha, how about when we fight back and appeal our assessments. How do they feel about that one?

  94. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Look at how much tax revenue legalization creates for these states. Did anything change? Did it ruin their society? Enough with the damn fear mongering and give the taxpayer a break by legalizing it.

    I’m going to argue it did. Most of the people I know that did drugs left and right in NJ grew out of the phase by the time they hit 30 and are now working two jobs to make up for all the screwing up they did in their 20s. Meanwhile, my sister just turned 30 moved out to Oregon and is a full fledged pothead working part time like every other millenial. And has surrounded herself with a bunch of other 30 something potheads that also work par time.

    Smoking pot makes people dumb and lazy.

  95. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Blue,

    Give me a break with that crap. Seriously?

  96. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Pot doesn’t make people dumb and lazy….they do that to themselves.

    You are a man of science. How do you explain highly productive pot heads. Or better yet, if I conducted an experiment, would I be able to take a highly productive individual and make them dumb and lazy just by giving them pot?

  97. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Highly productive pot heads are still operating well below their potential. Are you seriously gonna argue the effects of being stoned?

  98. leftwing says:

    “the towns of Fair Lawn, Park Ridge, and Paramus will allow taxpayers to pay their taxes as charitable donations”

    I know more than a little about 501(c)3s….no way this passes muster.
    What’s the charitable entity, does it already exist
    What’s its charitable purpose
    Are ‘donations’ mandatory
    Which ‘charitable activities’ is its funding supporting

    Plethora of issues to overcome, not to mention the idea that it was specifically established to evade taxes due….oh, and a slight btw, the entity with final ruling on its status is…uh….federal.

    All this stupid energy and money because they don’t like the guy in charge. Ridiculous. Behaving like four year olds having a hissy fit because Aunt Hillary promised them a present and she didn’t bring it.

    Keep it up, keep it up, please! This kind of stuff really endears the Party to independent swing voters.

    Warren/Sanders 2020!!!

  99. 3b says:

    For those who have have no mortgage in those towns it will work. For the majority it means nothing. And many of those who have paid for houses are seniors so it still means nothing. Fighting back my arse.

  100. 3b says:

    Left had not thought of all of that. Good points.

  101. 3b says:

    Pretty sad that as a state revenues from pot are being touted as a cure all.

  102. D-FENS says:

    Why isn’t it tax fraud?

  103. ExJersey says:

    5:36 Nobel paid it forward.

  104. 3b says:

    Ex you are better than that.

  105. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And what is your point? They smoke whether it’s legal or illegal. So why not lower tax payer’s cost by creative a revenue stream and at the same time reducing cirinimal system costs.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    January 5, 2018 at 7:37 pm
    Highly productive pot heads are still operating well below their potential. Are you seriously gonna argue the effects of being stoned?

  106. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Blue,

    Does it make you feel more comfortable saying it’s illegal when millions are smoking every day? Is the sky going to fall if it’s now legal? What’s really going to be the difference? Anyone that wants to smoke right now, can. Making it legal is not going to make more people smoke.

  107. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    With the emergence of the Juul ecigarette and thc oil, every school in NJ is now helpless to stop kids from getting stoned in school stealth. The usage is out of control in every district. This problem has emerged from legalization. It has its pros and cons…but fact is no one was smoking up weed in schools 10 years ago. Now, it’s rampant.

  108. 3b says:

    Even if it’s legalized the revenues are a drop in the bucket in solving our bankrupt banana republic like state.

  109. 3b says:

    I love the Rugby Channel!

  110. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    We need any revenue we can get.

    Blue,

    Wasn’t aware of that. Pros and cons with everything.

  111. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I just fear what it will be like if NJ turns into a legal state. Right now, the kids are illegally obtaining it online. It will become much more widespread if it’s legal. Right now, if I had to estimate, 30% to 35% of kids are using ecigs. It’s probably 33% of that group that loads up with THC. The others, nicotine exclusively. I think much more kids go THC once its legal to purchase in NJ.

  112. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Fauxcahontastein! A fake Indian who hates white men and a fake Jew who hates Jews.

    Warren/Sanders 2020!!!

  113. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    As goes Passaic County, so goes the state.

    Even if it’s legalized the revenues are a drop in the bucket in solving our bankrupt banana republic like state.

  114. yome says:

    LED lights linked to breast cancer

  115. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What it’s like to piss 18 billion into the wind

    Trump administration requests $18 billion for border wall – NBC News
    https://apple.news/AFWKJsFwxQfucL0NJY6I2iw

  116. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not to beat a dead horse, but consider yourself fortunate if you have not experienced any problems from ethanol. The problem is real as I personally experienced it. My father-in-law gave me the same bs line, why hasn’t anything happened to his. I don’t know if older small engines were built differently, but new small engines get messed up from this crap.

    “What you’ve heard about ethanol in gasoline is true. Small engine repair shops love ethanol because it provides them with a steady stream of business. But if you get one of these shop owners to open up with you, he’ll probably tell you he doesn’t use that gasoline in his own small engines.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-201505181900–tms–askbildrctnab-a20150529-20150529-story.html

  117. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “The Environmental Protection Agency has approved gasoline with 15 percent ethanol for use in cars year 2001 or newer, yet it prohibits its use in mowers and other power equipment, stating it may cause damage. A Department of Energy study found that E15 caused hotter operating temperatures, erratic running, and engine-part failure. But even gas with the usual 10 percent ethanol (E10) could help destroy small engines.

    “Ethanol has inherent properties that can cause corrosion of metal parts, including carburetors, degradation of plastic and rubber components, harder starting, and reduced engine life,” says Marv Klowak, global vice president of research and development for Briggs & Stratton, the largest manufacturer of small engines. “The higher the ethanol content, the more acute the effects.” Servicing dealers are reporting similar problems, even with E10, according to the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute, the industry’s trade group.”

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/03/gas-with-ethanol-can-make-small-engines-fail/index.htm

  118. 3b says:

    We need any revenue we can get?? I thought we were doing great and the high taxes were to be applauded? Price you pay to live here and all of that!

  119. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Just lop off some zeros and it’s exactly what you do with your property taxes, Pumps.

    What it’s like to piss 18 billion into the wind

  120. 3b says:

    If pot is legalized will we need more cops? How to you check for driving under the influence of pot?

  121. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    You instruct the driver to smell the cupcake, but not bite it and see if he passes the test.

    If pot is legalized will we need more cops? How to you check for driving under the influence of pot?

  122. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Hey Pumps, what is your realized gain from all your great calls? They must be about as secret as your degrees because we only know about pancake in a can and your house. Zillow says you’ve paid about $100,000 in property taxes so far and your highway house is worth about jack squat more than you paid for it. Nice job, Buffet.

  123. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Ethanol is purely the result of government subsidies gone wild. Stop subsidizing ethanol and corn. Get rid of em and you’ll have your pure gasoline again.

    We nearly grow more corn than the entire rest of the world because it’s so heavily subsidized.

  124. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    If pot is legalized will we need more cops? How to you check for driving under the influence of pot?

    Most potheads are dumb enough to smoke it in the car.

  125. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The snow blower that came with my house is a 1983 Toro 3521. When I researched it I found just a couple years later Toro still sold the exact same model but they had relocated the drive/auger controls from underneath the grips (like bicycle brake levers) to above the grips where you have to hold them down with your palms instead of your fingers. I mused over that redesign because it seemed like the wrong ergonomic direction. I found out yesterday the method to the madness when I took the old beast out of the shed in 10 degree temps. Those steel levers will freeze your fingers off in no time! I changed glove systems a couple different times in the first half hour. I have arctic mittens, but not here. Crap.

    My wife then told me that she had this family pack of hand warmers she bought years ago for 5 bucks at Ocean State Job Lot. I figured that wouldn’t help me because I needed warmth in my finger tips, not my palms. I looked at what she handed me and I noticed the smallest ones were “toe warmers”. When I opened them up they were shaped more like “heel warmers”, like a 1/3rd of an insole. But….they had sticky tape on one side to presumably keep them in one place in your shoe/boot. I stuck them directly on the controls, problem solved!! I thought about tie-wrapping them on and should have, because I eventually lost one, and then the other, but I think the “handlebars” were conducting enough heat from the engine on one end and the warmers on the other end that it didn’t seem to be a problem 90 minutes in. We had 19″ snowfall, but drifts and the street plow gave me some 2-3 foot sections to conquer.

    The snow was light enough that I just had to get through a section once and then I could nip away at sections higher than the auger housing 5 inches at a time with the towering sections falling into my path on either that pass or the next.

    My second Winter of “driving” a snow blower. I still kind of like it, I just don’t like lacing up my boots and putting on my gaiters. A mud room certainly is nice for warming up, taking a rest, and ultimately taking off the gear. Are you still liking it gary?

  126. 3b says:

    I wonder if the huge gains in the stock market have silenced all the trump bashers . Facebook has been quiet lately. Maybe they are always in the gym.

  127. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My investment is long term. Meaning, I bought a house to live in, not flip. The longer I stay in my house, the more my investment pays off. At 2.75% rate, saved a hell of a lot of money in the long term. Being that my house was pretty much brand new when I bought it, I haven’t had to dump a penny into it in the 7 years I have lived there…winning! Wait, finally had the interior painted this past August, and it could have went longer, but I like to maintain the turn key look.

    Hmmm—-in 13 years or less, only payment I will have to worry about is for propety taxes. Two properties paid off with one of the properties covering the cost of property taxes along with providing some spending/investment cash. Winning! Or I can sell the investment property anytime starting now and be mortgage free. Pays to invest early and get lucky!

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    January 6, 2018 at 10:09 am
    Hey Pumps, what is your realized gain from all your great calls? They must be about as secret as your degrees because we only know about pancake in a can and your house. Zillow says you’ve paid about $100,000 in property taxes so far and your highway house is worth about jack squat more than you paid for it. Nice job, Buffet.

  128. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And I can’t let these temps pass without thanking Lib once again for his “liquid gold” recommendation aka TruFuel.

    On a warm day in October 2016 our prospective landlords were showing us the house as well as certain features including the snow blower. They couldn’t quite get the snow blower running and I told them not to worry, I’d figure it out. Ultimately I needed TruFuel to figure it out for me. I ran one can with no problem, then I ran another. Because it’s not real cheap, I switched to pump premium with Stabil added and it ran pretty much just as well.

    At the end of the season I ran the snow blower dry and dumped the remaining stabilized fuel into the car. Come Spring, with an unopened can of TruFuel in hand, I was surprised to find that the mower started up just fine with some new pump premium, also with Stabil added. At the end of the season I once again dumped the left over fuel into the car. Winter 2.0, the snow blower fired up just fine with stabilized fuel. While the snowblower is a zillion years old, it has been maintained prior to my conservatorship. It has a hang-tag from a few years ago being serviced somewhere.

    Conclusion: If your engine has not completely dried out, rusted, or destroyed certain parts, TruFuel might just fix everything for you. Ongoing I guess you can take your pick of three options:

    1. Ultra premium option: Run nothing but TruFuel (probably best for tiny engines)
    2. Premium option: Store your engine with TruFuel as the most recent fuel used.
    3. Cheapskate option: Keep an unopened can of TruFuel on hand but store your engines after running them dry. Use stabilized premium less than 3 months old and dump anything older into your (wife’s) vehicle;-)

  129. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Like you are not driving with people smoking pot now. Why would you need more cops if it’s legal? That’s one of the biggest lobbyists out there for criminalization of drugs, dea, fbi, cia, and state/local police. Legalize it and you just made a ton of overpaid officers have absolutely no purpose. I mean is the cost of the dea really worth it? What do they even do? You can get any drug you want. Like pissing money away into the wind, but let’s complain about public education and welfare costs instead.

    3b says:
    January 6, 2018 at 9:53 am
    If pot is legalized will we need more cops? How to you check for driving under the influence of pot?

  130. chicagofinance says:

    One of his best…..

    “….Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. “

  131. The Great Pumpkin says:

    *That’s one of the biggest lobbyists out there for the criminalization of drugs; dea, fbi, cia, and state/local police.

  132. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    That’s what all emotional investors say about all of their losing investments, btw. Gamblers, OTOH, never even admit to having any losers, but they can bend your ear all day long about their winners.

    I suspect you are somewhere in between those two disease states.

    My investment is long term.

  133. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Hey Pumps – If you finance a d1ldo at 2.75%, what is your saving in the long term?

  134. The Great Pumpkin says:

    High taxes are justified in comparison to low cost locations.

    Do you understand how much money it costs to maintain drug laws. Is it really worth it? Is it really stopping anyone from doing it? The definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result…..que the war on drugs. God knows how much this war has cost taxpayers. Time to throw in the towel and stop wasting our money on a fight you can’t win. Last time I checked, heroin is illegal, yet how many people doing it? How many od’s? What a waste of money.

    3b says:
    January 6, 2018 at 9:50 am
    We need any revenue we can get?? I thought we were doing great and the high taxes were to be applauded? Price you pay to live here and all of that!

  135. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps – So your realized gains, which as you know are only determined upon sale of assets, is zero. Correct? Feel free to blather on all day long about your unrealized gains, but your realized gains are still zero. That’s a good number for you. Hopefully you can lock it in sometime in the future.

    All of your “calls” have resulted in zero realized gains. We’ll check back when you are in your sixties or whenever you book some profits, whichever comes first.

  136. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – Do you have any idea of what a heavy pot smoker is? What Blue Ribbon talks about with his sister is very true. It is common for a heavy pot smoker to stop caring about the damage they do to their lives and just focus on staying stoned. The same behavior as a person addicted to crack or meth or opoid pain pills or alcohol.

    Also the broke pot heads won’t want to pay the taxes to the government, so the dealers won’t go away.

    Use the current California example about the taxes, they are complaining already. The owners of the Pot dispensaries know the high taxes will keep the customers away, those customers will continue to go to the illegal dealers.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-pot-advocates-say-tax-rates-too-high-legal-recreational-marijuana/

  137. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    chifi – Where is that from? I can’t find it. That can’t be a Pumps quote!

    One of his best…..

    “….Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. “

  138. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Losing investment? I invested in a quality of life with the hopes of living there long term and locking in fixed costs at a very low rate. If the house goes up in value, that’s just icing on the cake.

    Losing investment means I lost money. Maybe you are right, and the house will drop in value and I will have to sell at a loss. Care to put your money where your mouth is and bet me on that? I can’t see housing dropping from current levels. There was not a run up in price, and right now current prices are more than justified…more than enough support to maintain current prices, so much so, prices are being driven up on demand and not speculation.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    January 6, 2018 at 10:59 am
    That’s what all emotional investors say about all of their losing investments, btw. Gamblers, OTOH, never even admit to having any losers, but they can bend your ear all day long about their winners.

    I suspect you are somewhere in between those two disease states.

    My investment is long term.

  139. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^OK, so you invested dollars but your payoff is in Pumpto-currency. I get it.

  140. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    chifi-never mind. I found it, Trump. Come to think of it, isn’t Pumps a lot like Trump…just minus the financial success and charisma?

  141. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps is like a destitute Hillary, would be another way to say it.

  142. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    Is making it illegal going to change the behavior of drug users? So why make it illegal? Look at Portugal and what happened when they legalized it and treated it as a disease as opposed to a crime. I’m sorry, the war on drugs has been a complete waste of money. Look at how much that war is costing us taxpayers? You know how much money we can save?

  143. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Dea budget—US$2 billion (FY2014)[1]

    They had about 11,000 employees in 2009.

    That’s only the dea. Never mind the fbi, cia, and state/local police spending god knows what to stop something they can’t.

  144. chicagofinance says:

    Colorado is struggling with a 40% increase in DUI, as there is no field sobriety test for being stoned.

    3b says:
    January 6, 2018 at 9:53 am
    If pot is legalized will we need more cops? How to you check for driving under the influence of pot?

  145. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Trump – never wrong, never sorry.
    Pumps – never wrong, never sorry.
    Trump – nobody ever gives me credit for my great calls
    Pumps – ”
    Trump – Beautiful wife who doesn’t seem to really be with him
    Pumps – ?

  146. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Take that money and put it towards building infrastructure in places like nyc. Billions more a year that will get a return on the tax payer money instead of being pissed into the wind.

  147. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps never really has any stories about him and his wife, does he?

  148. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Chi,

    Let’s be careful with those stats. They seem to do a good job of pulling it out of their arse.

    You are telling me people that didn’t smoke pot, start smoking because it’s now legal? Highly doubt it. So how the hell does the dui rate go up 40% because pot is legal?

  149. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps,

    Wall st fleeces enough out of the rest of America

  150. Juice Box says:

    Pumps you make it sound like there is some windfall. The actual number in NJ is somewhere around 170 million according to Phil Murphy who ran on decrimilizing marijuana.

  151. Juice Box says:

    Pumps your stupid is showing, more people are using and more are becoming heavy users hence the need to drive to work or the store stoned, hence the increase in DUI.

  152. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Get laid at least once a week, and a bj or two to go with it everytime. God, I love my wife! That’s what we call hitting the lottery. Wife is hot, successful, and takes care of me…winning!

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    January 6, 2018 at 11:29 am
    Pumps never really has any stories about him and his wife, does he?

  153. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Then why is alcohol legal? I’m sorry, alcohol is just as dangerous as any of these other drugs and probably just as addictive.

    Juice Box says:
    January 6, 2018 at 11:37 am
    Pumps your stupid is showing, more people are using and more are becoming heavy users hence the need to drive to work or the store stoned, hence the increase in DUI.

  154. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why did they get rid of prohibition? It created more problems and it didn’t stop drinking…que the war on drugs.

  155. 3b says:

    Pumps Seriously?? That was pathetic. Why do you humiliate yourself like that. No grown ass married man talks like that. Pathetic.

  156. 3b says:

    Might as well legalize prostitution too. Probably more tax revenue there.

  157. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Yet, you never said anything about trump and his pu$$y grabbing!

  158. joyce says:

    Where are you seeing those statistics? I don’t see that, but I do see conflicting reports.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

    https://www.denverpost.com/2017/04/17/marijuana-duis-drop/

    https://coloradopolitics.com/marijuana-legalization-has-not-increased-traffic-fatalities/

    Chicagofinance says:

    January 6, 2018 at 11:26 am
    Colorado is struggling with a 40% increase in DUI, as there is no field sobriety test for being stoned.

    3b says:
    January 6, 2018 at 9:53 am
    If pot is legalized will we need more cops? How to you check for driving under the influence of pot?

  159. joyce says:

    Grim,
    If you can release my post, thanks

  160. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Hmmm…Interesting that you claim to be married to her on your FB page and feature an ancient picture of you two as your primary profile pic.

    Meanwhile on her FB page…main profile pic his her and a girlfriend (?), a picture of your(?) kid as the other profile picture. No hint of a relationship with you. Just pics of her and the kid, her and the kid, her and the kid, her and her friends, her and her college friends, her and her college friends, some of them sitting on my lap in Boston, etc.

    Get laid at least once a week, and a bj or two to go with it everytime. God, I love my wife! That’s what we call hitting the lottery. Wife is hot, successful, and takes care of me…winning!

  161. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    A lot of girl-on-girl hugging and kissing too. The only guy in the pictures is me.

  162. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I just messaged her to confirm the bj count. I’ll get back to you.

  163. 3b says:

    What is there to say save he is pathetic too an old geezer talking like that and certainly not attractive by any definition. Yet he was just referencing in general. You referenced your wife on a public website how she gives you bj s. Pathetic. Have a little class.

  164. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    If anyone in the Pumps bloodline ever gains any education, it will surely precede his family attaining any class by 2-3 generations.

  165. Fabius Maximus says:

    BRT

    “Right now, if I had to estimate, 30% to 35% of kids are using ecigs.”
    The worrying thing I see in my town is that it starts with the parents. Mon is on alcohol and/or pills. Dad is rec using weed. Its frightening.
    I had a friend complaining that they didn’t get invited to a big party in town. I didn’t have the heart to tell her that is was because her husband is a cop. A lot of professionals and a lot of self employed. They are not in danger of having to get tested for their job, so its the norm.

  166. Fabius Maximus says:

    “No grown ass married man talks like that. Pathetic.”

    JJ repeatedly, Stu on occasion and others, but Stu knows it will always get back to Gator.

    ExPat, yes, Pumps, shares too much and you don’t like him, but you are crossing a line here. Family is always off limits.

    I had a chat with Grim a while back on this topic. This site has changed over the past 10 years and not in a good way. When Mrs Fab got her RE licence, we were talking about referrals and I said that I would never allow her to be in the public view on this site as I don’t trust some of the people. Grim, I’ll put this up as a good example to back up that point.

    Pumps, it is clear that ExPat knows you and I’m sure at this point you have worked out who he is. If he has contacted your wife, tell her to file a restraining order against him and you can use the posts in here as a basis. You can also drop Mrs ExPat a note explaining why.

  167. 3b says:

    Fab true regarding jj but I don’t recall anyone seriously discussing their sex life and what activities their spouse engages in on a public web site. I would think a wife would be horrified if she knew and same for a husband if it were reversed. Everyone jokes and kids around about cex in general. I do as well. But no one I know has ever discussed private intimate details of their cex lives with others or on a public blog.

  168. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The worrying thing I see in my town is that it starts with the parents. Mon is on alcohol and/or pills. Dad is rec using weed. Its frightening.
    I had a friend complaining that they didn’t get invited to a big party in town. I didn’t have the heart to tell her that is was because her husband is a cop. A lot of professionals and a lot of self employed. They are not in danger of having to get tested for their job, so its the norm.

    Based on my experience, this is 100% true. The previous town I taught in, we had a major problem with rich parents competing with each other to throw the biggest parties for the kids at school. They had no qualms about ordering 4 kegs for the kids. It was a status thing. The sports teams were a huge problem as well. They would regularly hold parties where parents drank upstairs and kids drank downstairs.

    But what alarms me more is that I was blown away at how we had zero smoking incidents inside school when I started as a teacher. I couldn’t believe it. In the 90s, every high school kid was smoking cigarettes in the bathroom. That didn’t happen anymore until about 4 years ago with the e-cig coming onto the scene. But more recently, the Juul is so small and odorless that the kids will actually do it in some teacher’s classes or on the bus. They all do it in the bathroom nonstop and they can load it with anything and do. We’ve resorted to just closing the bathrooms half the of the time. With the advent of THC oil and other things, this has become a problem that we have no ability to deal with.

  169. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    yeah, but even JJ never talked about his wife like that.

  170. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b
    ” I would think a wife would be horrified if she knew ”

    Yes and it was a throwaway line that he shouldn’t have posted. But ExPat is crossing a line here.

  171. Fabius Maximus says:

    BRT,

    The sports kids are the ones I really feel for. Parents push and push and push. I saw a 15 Year old in Pitching Practice getting pushed and pushed. They get a serious injury and are put on pills for the pain. That starts the downward spiral.

  172. Fabius Maximus says:

    “yeah, but even JJ never talked about his wife like that.”

    No, pretty sure that was covered on how he came off the market!

  173. ExJersey says:

    I married an amazing woman. just sayin

  174. 3b says:

    It’s every cycle of kids and crazy sports parents. I have so many stories. Parents can do a real number on their kids . It’s their dream not necessarily their kids. And the moms are just as bad if not worse.

  175. 3b says:

    Fab the thing with jj was he was b.s. most of the time and on most of the topics he was discussing. Anyhow the whole thing all around is just pathetic.

  176. Fabius Maximus says:

    What I get out of this is that the landscape is changing.

    https://www.wired.com/story/pro-russia-twitter-trolls-target-robert-mueller/

  177. Fabius Maximus says:

    jj was b.s.?
    Who’s taking that?

  178. 3b says:

    Fab in my opinion jj told a lot of tall tales.

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