Poverty falls in NJ

From NJ Spotlight:

Poverty in New Jersey in 2018 by County

The percentage of New Jerseyans living in poverty last year dropped below 10% for the first time this decade, although the proportion of the state’s residents who are considered poor remained higher than before the Great Recession, according to the most recent survey by the U.S. Census Bureau.

Given the 2018 American Community Survey also found the median household income to be stagnant when inflation was figured in, this means the typical family found itself in no better shape last year than in 2017.

Taken together, the two sets of data paint a positive, though not necessarily rosy, picture of New Jersey households’ financial health.

“New Jersey’s economy continues to improve, but not all residents are benefitting from this progress,” said Brandon McKoy, president of New Jersey Policy Perspective (NJPP), a left-leaning think tank. “Poverty rates remain higher than pre-Recession levels. Far too many New Jersey families still struggle to pay for basic expenses like food and childcare.”

New Jersey’s median household income last year was $81,740. That was slightly higher than in 2017, though adjusted for inflation, it was actually $23 lower — but when accounting for the margin of error that difference is not considered significant. Last year’s median income was about 3% higher than the 2016 inflation-adjusted income and 7% more than in 2014; both of those changes are considered statistically significant.

The drop in the statewide poverty rate to 9.5% of all New Jerseyans, down a statistically significant 0.5% from 2017, was welcomed by advocates for those who are of low income. It was the lowest rate since 2009. Still, advocates noted that the rate remains higher than at the beginning of the 2007-2009 Great Recession, when less than 9% of New Jersey residents were considered poor by federal standards.

“Any drop in the poverty rate is a welcome development, but it cannot and should not obscure the fact that poverty in our state last year remained significantly higher than at the beginning of the recession 1l years ago,” said Melville D. Miller Jr., president of Legal Services of New Jersey. “That’s deeply disturbing and shameful.”

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82 Responses to Poverty falls in NJ

  1. grim says:

    Deeper dive into the 2018 NJ Household Income.

    ACS – 1 YR – 2017 vs 2018 by tier (and difference)
    Less than $10k – 5.3% / 5.0% – Decline of 0.3%
    $10-15k – 3.5% / 3.1% – Decline of 0.4%
    $15-25k – 7.7% / 7.2% – Decline of 0.5%
    $25-35k – 7.3% / 6.7% – Decline of 0.6%
    $35-50k – 10.1% / 9.3% – Decline of 0.8%
    $50-75k – 15.3% / 14.8% – Decline of 0.5%
    $75-100k – 12.2% / 12.2% – Flat
    $100-150k – 17.4% / 17.5% – Increase of 0.1%
    $150-200k – 9.3% / 10.2% – Increase of 0.9%
    $200k+ – 11.9% / 13.9% – Increase of Increase of 2.0%

  2. grim says:

    Below $75k – Decline of 3.1% aggregate (46.2% of households)
    $75-100k – Flat (12.2% of households)
    Above $100k – Increase of 3.0% aggregate (41.6% of households)

  3. grim says:

    Or if you want to split out “middle class”, very roughly.

    Below $50k – Decrease of 2.6% to 31.3% of households
    $50-150k – Decrease of 0.4% to 44.5% of households
    Above $150k – Increase of 2.9% to 24.1% of households

  4. dentss dunnigan says:

    Poor people moving out …rich moving in ….

  5. grim says:

    Population increased by 0.22% over that same period.

  6. joyce says:

    grim,
    Do you know the count of how many fall into each bucket?

  7. grim says:

    Not yet on the 2018 ACS, it’s not in fact-finder yet. You could dig into the data tables but it’s a headache. The percentage summary data was posted in a visualization blog post, so I grabbed it from there to compare against 2017.

  8. Yo! says:

    Today NJ is the richest place in the history of the world.

  9. leftwing says:

    Not very familiar with the survey, took a quick glance but couldn’t find an answer….

    The earnings data is self reported?

    Either way impressive especially at the $150k break.

  10. Fast Eddie says:

    People are getting wealthier. Good! People are realizing that if you assert yourself, set aside your self-pity and seize opportunities, you’ll earn more and bring more value to an employer.

  11. ExEssex says:

    Trump brags on the record-low unemployment numbers, but the jobs too often don’t pay a living wage and Trump and Republicans won’t even allow a vote on raising the minimum wage.

    Big oil and coal executives got lavish public subsidies; teachers and parents got cuts in school funding. Big Agra got billions in payoffs to make up for Trump’s trade war; family farmers were casualties, many bankrupted by the loss of markets, with Wisconsin’s small farmers suffering the worst.

    Auto executives enjoyed record profits; auto workers suffered more layoffs and plant closings. The rich saw their wealth soar; working people faced rising prices in housing, health care, college, cars — with incomes that didn’t keep up.

    Trump brags on the record-low unemployment numbers, but the jobs too often don’t pay a living wage and Trump and Republicans won’t even allow a vote on raising the minimum wage.

    Not surprisingly, workers are beginning to protest.

  12. Fast Eddie says:

    Trump brags on the record-low unemployment numbers, but the jobs too often don’t pay a living wage and Trump and Republicans won’t even allow a vote on raising the minimum wage.

    Explain what this means, I don’t understand. What’s a living wage by your estimation?
    The minimum wage is rising every year until it reaches $15/hr. in NJ by 2024. That’s not too bad. What more do you expect?

  13. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Democrat party turned their backs on working people. Yeah they take money from corrupt unions and give lip service on the stump but they undercut them at every turn.

    Actions are what matter. Democrats have pivoted to open borders. You can’t have increased standards of living for the unskilled with open borders.

    But fortunately for Those people the wall is being built. Immigration is being controlled for the first time in decades.

  14. joyce says:

    Thanks Jesse Jackson

    ExEssex says:
    October 11, 2019 at 10:02 am

  15. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    How many people did Bama prosecute for financial crimes?

    Oh, that’s right, none. But he did cash in for millions on bogus speaking fees.

  16. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    When I drove through the ghetto last night to get to the Devil game, it became clear as hell that Trump has not done a damn thing to help the working people.

    And why is everything measured against Obama? Jealousy?

  17. Fast Eddie says:

    That’s a nice house the Oblamas have. Did you see it? I’m not sure how a politician and community spokesperson makes that kind of money but I sure as he11 give him credit! That may very well be his greatest achievement!

  18. joyce says:

    Criticizing someone or something does not equate to support for something else. Even if someone is criticizing something now while not doing so in the past only makes them a hypocrite and not necessarily incorrect.

  19. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    And it’s year 3 already. Time to put on your big boy pants and stop blaming everything on Obammy.

  20. Fast Eddie says:

    And it’s year 3 already. Time to put on your big boy pants and stop blaming everything on Obammy.

    I would say it’s more like ridiculing and mocking him… pointing out that he was an unmitigated failure.

  21. ExEssex says:

    10:51 riiight. Name 3 successes Trump has had while in office.

  22. D-FENS says:

    literally hundreds

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

    ExEssex says:
    October 11, 2019 at 10:53 am
    10:51 riiight. Name 3 successes Trump has had while in office.

  23. ExEssex says:

    11:04 waaaaaaammmp waaaaammmmmp

  24. ExEssex says:

    I’m still waiting on Trump’s top Ten business wins.

  25. D-FENS says:

    You might also enjoy Opening ANWR to drilling and Keystone XL and Dakota pipeline approval.

    ExEssex says:
    October 11, 2019 at 11:07 am
    11:04 waaaaaaammmp waaaaammmmmp

  26. D-FENS says:

    It’s nice that people no longer have to pay the Obamacare mandate. I’m sure you agree.

    ExEssex says:
    October 11, 2019 at 11:08 am
    I’m still waiting on Trump’s top Ten business wins.

  27. ExEssex says:

    A federal appeals court on Friday rejected President Donald Trump’s bid to block a House committee subpoena for his financial documents from his accounting firm.
    The subpoena was issued earlier this year to Trump’s accountants at Mazars USA by the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.
    Trump currently is asking the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan to block another subpoena, for his corporate and personal income tax returns, that was issued by a state grand jury in New York City.

  28. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    1. Tremendous economic growth. Massive reduction of people in poverty. Big increase in labor participation. 50 year low in unemployment rate.
    2. Net energy exporter.
    3. Immigration enforcement. Wall is being built. Tighter visa scrutiny.

  29. D-FENS says:

    You down with TPP?

    ExEssex says:
    October 11, 2019 at 11:18 am
    A federal appeals court on Friday rejected President Donald Trump’s bid to block a House committee subpoena for his financial documents from his accounting firm.
    The subpoena was issued earlier this year to Trump’s accountants at Mazars USA by the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.
    Trump currently is asking the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan to block another subpoena, for his corporate and personal income tax returns, that was issued by a state grand jury in New York City.

  30. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Esx, you forgot to add, this is huge. Game changer. Beginning of the end. Being a fake news subscriber demands it of you.

    PS. Forgot to add to his accomplishment list. He dealt a staggering blow to the blue state political machines with his property tax deduction cap.

  31. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    “1. Tremendous economic growth. Massive reduction of people in poverty. Big increase in labor participation. 50 year low in unemployment rate.
    2. Net energy exporter.
    3. Immigration enforcement. Wall is being built. Tighter visa scrutiny.”

    I really shouldn’t waste my precious time arguing with a liar who believes the liar in chief’s every word. But I couldn’t help myself.

    1. Show me that massive economic growth. Don’t forget the trillion the assh0le borrowed to make this happen.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

    2. Looking at the following chart, I think you need to thank Obama for this one.

    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/images/2019.01.29/main.png

    3. Immigration enforcement. Wall is being built. Tighter visa scrutiny.

    Actually, wall is far from being complete nor is there much NEW wall being built, rather mostly existing wall is being reinforced. Trump has managed to increase illegal immigration by moving demand to enter US illegally forward. Tighter visa scrutiny? I’ll give you that. Big effin’ deal.

    You are simply a fool.

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    Don’t forget the trillion the assh0le borrowed to make this happen.

    Unlike the trillion for shovel ready jobs disguised as graft and payouts?

  33. joyce says:

    Christ Eddie.

  34. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The federal deficit will keep growing no matter who is in office or who controls the house/senate. It’s unstoppable and there is no mechanism in place to reign in the spending. The parasite has taken control of the host.

  35. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Sure, Obama, right. Very accomplished. Another 8 years is all he needed.

    The fact is trump has exposed the false progressive narrative for what it is. A load of bullshit obscured by political correctness.

  36. Fast Eddie says:

    joyce,

    That’s “The Christ Eddie” to you.

  37. joyce says:

    Translation. It is impossible for Trump to do something wrong because Obama and the Democrats pushed through a very bad bill previously.

  38. leftwing says:

    Yeah I’m going to avoid the tit-for-tat of various administrations….mostly pointless anyway as outside of any specific, immediate, and impactful decisions a President can mostly singularly make (eg, war) nearly everything else, especially the economy, is much more complicated than whose arse was in which seat during which four year period.

    More importantly, Lib…

    “When I drove through the ghetto last night to get to the Devil game, it became clear as hell that Trump has not done a damn thing to help the working people.”

    I love you man but what’s up? You lose all reason and logic around this guy. I know he is a crass, infantile douche but you take your distaste for this guy to an extreme that blinds everything else…

    Do you sincerely believe that the plight of the underclass in cities like Newark has anything to do with or could be rectified by any President? I mean, the list of root causes and the layers of blame that radiate concentrically from the local geographic political center and outward are innumberable. Really? Is there any policy any Administration could effect that would turn around the human wasteland that exists west of MLK Blvd in 1,000 days?

    If so, show me guy/girl. I’d vote for them in a second regardless of party affiliation.

    Hanging the current state of Newark on Trump….smh

  39. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    I was responding to the same idiocy where a disciple makes some hairballed claim that Trump has helped the middle class any more than the Dems have.

    Both parties are out to enrich themselves. None are out to help us.

    What drives me crazy is that the Trumpites actually believe the lies Trump constantly spews out of his pie hole. Heck, Obama flubs what number state Hawaii (his fake birthplace) is and the Republicans go absolutely batsh1t crazy. At the same time, Trump just utters lie after lie after lie. And his ignoramus followers swallow it up.

    Kind of like blaming the Jews and Gypsies for Germanies economic demise in the 30s when it was really a raw deal with the British Government that was to blame.

    And for the record. I never defend or claim Trump did it better. But he didn’t lie every time he opened his pie hole.

  40. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    Meant Obama in last sentence.

  41. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    And thinking about it. It’s not Trump and his circus act that gives me the heebiejeebies. It’s the suckers who give him a pass that disturb me.

    For the record, I react the same way to my Leftie progressive friends. No conversation ends without me pointing out the blood money they work for, the mistake of the party to focus on identity issues as well as the low road they always seem to take lately.

    The answer is IN the high road. That’s what Bernie is so popular among the younger set. The dude was on the right side of history too many times. He’s as clean as they come. You are welcome to be opposed to his ideology. But you won’t find a child of his in his administration or on some board of a multi-national company.

  42. Yo! says:

    Jersey City’s most recent condo trade: $1,280,000. 2007 sale price: $737,535. That West Orange posted yesterday that traded at $875,000 a few weeks ago previously traded in 2017 at $1,000,000 and had been on the market for $2,390,000.

    Interesting how NJ housing sub market performance is diverging.

    Could home prices go below $0, as sellers pay buyers to take on the tax liability?

  43. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s impossible to eliminate poverty under capitalism. Simply impossible.

    People supporting capitalism, yet crying about poverty are insane. You can’t have it all. It’s a system based on competition (fake competition in most cases) for limited resources. Unless you add unions to a capitalist system, you will have no middle class. It will eventually hollow out with only winners and losers unless you give a handicap in the form of a union to a percentage of the labor pool to balance it out and allow for a middle class.

    “Do you sincerely believe that the plight of the underclass in cities like Newark has anything to do with or could be rectified by any President? I mean, the list of root causes and the layers of blame that radiate concentrically from the local geographic political center and outward are innumberable. Really? Is there any policy any Administration could effect that would turn around the human wasteland that exists west of MLK Blvd in 1,000 days?”

  44. D-FENS says:

    Wall

  45. D-FENS says:

    No more high roads. We need a complete douche to make everyone in Washington DC completely miserable.

    Trump is a neutron bomb dropped on them all sent by rust belt voters. Enjoy.

    Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:
    October 11, 2019 at 12:25 pm
    And thinking about it. It’s not Trump and his circus act that gives me the heebiejeebies. It’s the suckers who give him a pass that disturb me.

    For the record, I react the same way to my Leftie progressive friends. No conversation ends without me pointing out the blood money they work for, the mistake of the party to focus on identity issues as well as the low road they always seem to take lately.

    The answer is IN the high road. That’s what Bernie is so popular among the younger set. The dude was on the right side of history too many times. He’s as clean as they come. You are welcome to be opposed to his ideology. But you won’t find a child of his in his administration or on some board of a multi-national company.

  46. leftwing says:

    “Could home prices go below $0, as sellers pay buyers to take on the tax liability?”

    LOL, real estate equivalent of negative interest rates.

    All joking aside people buy (and get financed) on the monthly nut. Basic math says that if the tax component of that goes up something else needs to go done.

    Funny, grim said yesterday that anywhere else that house trades at 2m. And it once did.

  47. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That west orange break down was telling.

    So 68% of the homeowners pay 300 a month for their town services. Does that really sound so expensive? You get police and fire that respond within minutes. You get unlimited bulk garbage pick up twice a week. Roads paved and sewers maintained. Park access and maintenance. This is the highest taxed municipality in the state. Is that really expensive for this?

    How much do you pay for homeowners insurance that you never even use? Isn’t being able to call 911 and have them there in a matter of minutes a form of insurance?

    You people want it all, yet don’t want to pay for anything.

    Oh right, in a high cost state you want government workers to make 50,000 and live in poverty. Get a life. It’s a high cost state and salaries across the board from public to private will reflect that.

    You pay for what you get. All this talk of “make america great again.” Lowering the salaries of workers is not how you make America great again. It’s the exact opposite.

  48. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    Could you just imagine if Obama had uttered the words, “infinite wisdom?”

    The rust belt might have all instantly and simultaneously been drawn to their bed sheets with scissors.

  49. D-FENS says:

    I’m having trouble finding the US Embassy in Israel. Can someone tell me what city it’s in now?

  50. leftwing says:

    “No more high roads. We need a complete douche to make everyone in Washington DC completely miserable. Trump is a neutron bomb dropped on them all sent by rust belt voters. Enjoy.”

    “The answer is IN the high road. That’s what Bernie is so popular among the younger set”

    Agree. And agree.

    The politicos I can’t stomach are the entrenched lifers, especially when they are holier than thou….McCain, Romney, Clinton. Not part of the problem. THE problem.

  51. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    Left,

    That MONTHLY NUT is how the millennial generation operates. There is a Nissan car salesman in our investment club. He said, they rarely play tricks with the price of the car anymore as long as your first offer is close to cost. They make their money off of the financing now. He said most people are now buying on 72 and sometimes 8o month terms. I asked him how many people pay cash and he said none. It’s a different time.

  52. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls says:

    D – just another example of bullying that solved absolutely no problem. Much like the wall.

    Perhaps, someone pasted the script of Roadhouse inside Trump’s hard cover copy of Machiavelli?

  53. leftwing says:

    “sh1t. there’s a whistleblower 3”

    LOL, that’s great.

    Best way to counter this Dem foolishness….expose it for the farce it is including through parody, mock and undercut them personally, and ride the Hunter/Barisma thing like a bad horse until it drops.

    I mostly watch the Sunday news shows for comedy value. Best is when someone punches these cunts in the face with logic and facts and won’t be shouted down. The surprised hurt puppy dog look the interviewers throw off camera to the producers is priceless.

    Mainstream Repubs are too timid, in part because they dislike Trump as much as many Dems.

    If Repubs want to be successful in any situation they should ask themselves “what would Bill [Clinton] do” and then roll out that smash mouth playbook. Dislike everything about the Clintons, but that motherfcuker hit the playing surface willing to do anything to roll his opponents.

  54. D-FENS says:

    I was a die-hard Nissan customer for years. They are awful now. I traded them all in. Full of Renault parts and terrible build quality.

  55. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    It’s because they can’t pay cash. Often, the car cost more than the down payment on their apartments.

  56. XRumerTest says:

    Hello. And Bye.

  57. Fast Eddie says:

    Cars are ridiculously overpriced. It’s absurd. I hate paying for a car. I have a 12 year old Civic that I use to go the train and back. I put about 3000 miles per year on my car. I would love to have a nicely-sized sedan with leather seats and killer sound system but the prices are just nauseating… even for a used vehicle.

  58. Juice Box says:

    Facebook taking no chances. Say they won’t block Trump ad spend as “direct speech was ineligible for fact-checking”

  59. Juice Box says:

    I get upset and call customer service and yell obscenities when my mood lighting in my ride does not work. You would think with an 84 month loan the car will last forever.

  60. Juice Box says:

    Lol Guiliani Jokes.

    If my client is going to be charged then he demands his bribe money back.

    He’s the kind of lawyer who will try to prove your innocence in one crime by incriminating you in multiple others.

  61. chicagofinance says:

    joyce: at best you post just information or opinions; most of the time you post snark and put downs with disdainful superiority….. please go away….

    joyce says:
    October 11, 2019 at 10:28 am
    Thanks Jesse Jackson

    ExEssex says:
    October 11, 2019 at 10:02 am

  62. joyce says:

    I’ve been meaning to say I can read the nypost on my own, don’t need any help.

  63. leftwing says:

    Re: New car prices….

    “It’s because they can’t pay cash.”

    “He said most people are now buying on 72 and sometimes 8o month terms.”

    “Cars are ridiculously overpriced.”

    Hmmmm…open up a bunch of liquidity borrowers can’t afford on dubious economic terms and create a price bubble? Haven’t we heard this somewhere before lol. Remind me, how does this end?

  64. Juice Box says:

    SNL lampooned the CNN town hall in Sept.

    I dare them to lampoon the CNN town hall from last night.

  65. Juice Box says:

    how does this end?

    No Big deal just a trillion or so.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MVLOAS

  66. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    “Most banks and credit unions provide payment plans ranging from 24 to 72 months, with shorter term loans generally carrying lower interest rates. The typical term length for auto loans is 68 months, with loans of 72 and 84 months becoming increasingly common.”

    I fact checked my friend.

  67. Juice Box says:

    interest rates aren’t bad, 48 month auto loan are still near the all time low of 4% in 2015

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TERMCBAUTO48NS

  68. No One says:

    Grim, was your initial sort based on the ending period classification or the prior year classification? If the former, then there would be a built in bias of lower income classifications to have declined, and higher groups to have risen

  69. No One says:

    Never mind, I misunderstood what was declining. I thought it was the incomes, instead it was the percentage of the population.

  70. grim says:

    Yeah, it’s households in the category.

    Far more rich people, far fewer poor people.

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    But nj is dying…the rich leaving in droves! Tell them, 3b.

    grim says:
    October 12, 2019 at 5:58 am
    Yeah, it’s households in the category.

    Far more rich people, far fewer poor people.

  72. Not Hunter says:

    Regarding Hunter Biden, it is in my opinion unethical, the optics poor, sleazy and taking advantage of fathers position. Father does not control sons behavior, father can try to convince son not to do something but father cannot force son not to do something. Ask any father who has tried to persuade son to do or not to do something.

    But is what Hunter did illegal and if it is, why doesn’t POTUS have the DOJ launch an investigation and if in fact laws were broken, pursue and administer whatever penalties the law allows for legal infractions. Lots of noise around this but from what I can tell, not much action and if I am correct, then what is the purpose of all the noise?

  73. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    By all accounts, the kid is a screw up. There’s no way Joe didn’t arrange it. You don’t get kicked out of the military and all of the sudden, decide you are going to take advantage of a foreign situation in Ukraine. The same garbage is done domestically as well. Chelsae Clinton got something like 600k for a no show job at MSNBC.

    For being so against fossil fuels, an awful lot of politicians have their kids working for Ukrainian oil companies.

  74. ExEssex says:

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  76. ExEssex says:

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  77. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls says:

    I think Essex has gone mad?

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