C19 Open Discussion Week 37b

From the Star Ledger:

N.J. small businesses struggled to pay November rent, study says 

Small businesses in New Jersey struggled to pay their November rent at a higher rate than businesses across the country, according to a new study.

And it’s even worse for minority-owned businesses.

Sixty-seven percent of minority-owned businesses surveyed in the state couldn’t afford to pay their full November rent. That compares to 44% of minority-owned businesses nationwide, said the November Rent Poll by Alignable, an online network of small business owners with more than 5 million members.

The survey questions showed New Jersey businesses — in many categories — are faring worse than the national average:

  • 35% of New Jersey business couldn’t pay their full rent in November compared to 32% nationally
  • 37% of women-owned businesses in the state couldn’t pay their full rent compared to 35% nationally

When it comes to cash reserves, small businesses in New Jersey are also doing hurting more, the study said.

In New Jersey, 42% of small businesses reported that their cash reserves will run out by the end of the year. That number compares to 22% nationally.

The survey also found 16% of New Jersey small business owners are already out of cash reserves. Nationally, it’s 12%.

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227 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 37b

  1. dentss dunnagan says:

    First

  2. grim says:

    Dolly Parton deserves more credit for the Moderna vaccine than Trump does…

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/entertainment/dolly-parton-covid-moderna-vaccine-trnd/index.html

    In April, less than a month after Covid-19 was officially declared a pandemic, Dolly Parton donated $1 million to coronavirus research at Vanderbilt University.

    More than seven months later, it’s been revealed that the legendary performer’s donation helped fund Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, which this week became the second coronavirus vaccine with a stunningly high success rate.

  3. Juice Box says:

    That is funny Grim.

    Does Dollywood need a bailout?

    Modern a got billions from Warp Speed, Dolly’s donation is nice
    But it was not for corona virus development they just did a trial there.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/health/operation-warp-speed.amp.html

  4. 3b says:

    The MTA is looking for a 36 percent increase in fares because of the decline in ridership due to Covid. Another reason not to go back to the office.

  5. Juice Box says:

    MTA was asking for $12 billion in federal aid alone in the “Cares” bailout that did not pass and that was only thru 2021.

  6. Juice Box says:

    FDA approves at home test kit, no lab needed.

    Lucira COVID-19 All-in-One Test Kit

    https://www.lucirahealth.com/

  7. Juice Box says:

    Interesting seems this Lucira molecular test is much more accurate than the exiting antigen tests.

    Again however the powers that be added more hoops to jump through just more garbage added to the pile of testing issues we already have in this country.

    You won’t be able to pick one up at CVS just yet, seems the FDA approval does not cut Doctors our Physicians Assistants out of the loop they require you to do a tele-health screening and get a pre*scriptio*N for the test kit.

    “By the second quarter of 2021, Lucira Health plans to amend its EUA or file a new EUA so people who think they’re infected with COVID-19 can communicate with a medical professional online through a dedicated website to arrange a pre*scriptio*n and overnight delivery of the test kit, if approved. Follow-up monitoring will be available for public health reporting so people can get additional guidance and information if needed.”

    https://apnews.com/press-release/business-wire/business-pandemics-public-health-products-and-services-coronavirus-pandemic-20869ac5bba44b4e9b89e788684c28d2

  8. Fast Eddie says:

    Andrew Cuomo is giving himself a $25,000 per year raise. This, in spite of the fact that NYC is in intensive care. This, in spite of the fact that he sent thousands to the senior home death camps. This, in spite of the fact that Trump never took a salary as president. Remember Andrew, you said you want your own independent study on the vaccine so, they’ll be no vaccine shipments to your state.

  9. Hold my beer says:

    Juice

    Them doctors need their vig. Medical school debt and 2 ex-wives are a big monthly nut.

  10. Phoenix says:

    Some animals are more equal than others.

    http://dailym.ai/3nDDdZU

  11. Fat Fast Eddie says:

    Georgia is finding more and more undiscovered ballots. We were told mail-in ballots were safe, secure and honest. By the way, bookies aren’t even taking bets on who will win the January 5th Senate runoffs because the winner(s) have already been determined. In plain terms, the fix is in.

  12. Hold my beer says:

    Fast Eddie

    That’s only about 72 cents for every New Yorker who died from covid. Seems reasonable /sarcasm

  13. Phoenix says:

    Eddie
    Res Judicata. You will learn that term or the meaning of it at some point.

    No, it won’t make you feel better, nor vindicated. It’s the legal way of telling you to GTF over it. Even if you are right about it being rigged, Res Judicata is the end of it all.

  14. Phoenix says:

    “Medical school debt and 2 ex-wives are a big monthly nut.”

    I’m the go to at work about the second half of this statement. I have helped many residents not make that mistake. And taught many others about the tactics used in court. It’s amazing how little Americans know about their justice system. It appears to be designed that way just for that reason.

  15. ExEssex says:

    9:11 uNfAiR tRuMp wOn bY a LaNdSlIdE

  16. Hold my beer says:

    Doesn’t New Jersey have alimony for life?

  17. ExEssex says:

    9:08 tRuMp lOsT mOnEy tO bE yOuR pReSidEnt

  18. Libturd says:

    Every day I watch NJ Transit rail run 8 nearly empty double deckers train sets with about ten to twenty people at most, on the entire train. NJ Transit claims their rail ridership is at 20% pre-Covid levels, but that includes the light rail numbers which were hardly impacted by Covid. It appears that poorer people don’t get to work from home and buses and light rail are way more prevalent in poorer urban neighborhoods. At mid day, there are a total of three cars on average parked at Walnut Street Station. This is a huge lot that used to have a 6 or 7 year waiting list for the opportunity to pay NJ transit $900 a year to park there to ride their decrepit rail line. These trains are all running truly empty. A single bus could easily handle the entire ridership on the line.

    So why are we paying for staffing, unnecessary and expensive wear-and-tear on nearly completely empty train sets. These sets are running the same schedule they ran pre-covid too. Plus, I’m sure you are all aware that NJ Transit couldn’t even come close to making ends meet when they were at overcapacity. How dumb are we to put up with this? Gotta get outta this charity for the public worker state.

    In Glen Ridge, they just terminated one of the most important persons in our school system. The ten-year director of aftercare. This person helped everyone with their homework, kept things running like clockwork, ran a super tight ship security-wise, but was not in the union and was probably the lowest paid supervisor in the district. Meanwhile, gym teachers, lunch ladies, probably a solid ten percent of the unionized staff will be paid in full to do nothing for a year.

    Only the best and the brightest in our government.

  19. 3b says:

    Hold:It depends, it could be. I had a friend who earned significantly more than his ex wife, this is going back sometime, but basically he has to pay her 15k a year until he retires. In other instances if the spouse has no skills say married right out of high school and husband made all the money and divorce after long term marriage than yes life time alimony could be ordered by court. I had no idea until my friend was going through an NJ divorce years ago.

  20. ExEssex says:

    President Trump fired Christopher Krebs, the well-regarded director of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), via tweet on Tuesday, citing Krebs’ public assurances that the 2020 election was historically secure and free of fraud or serious error.

    Krebs was the rare Trump administration official almost universally regarded as competent, apolitical, and effective in a crucial area that needed such leadership. And he apparently found a way to make sure his agency continued without too much political inference in the event he was fired. “Late Tuesday,” The Washington Post said, “acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf called Krebs’ deputy, Matthew Travis, to inform him that the White House had overruled CISA’s succession plan that named him acting director, essentially forcing him to resign, Travis said.” A DHS spokesman said the White House did not directly ask Travis to step down.

    With Travis out, CISA leadership goes to Brandon Wales, “a career employee whom Trump cannot fire,” Politico says. “Mr. Krebs specifically created Mr. Wales’ position as executive director to make it more difficult for the White House to install partisan replacements atop the agency,” The Wall Street Journal reports, citing a person familiar with the matter.

    Before joining the Trump administration in 2017, Krebs worked in the George W. Bush DHS then served as a lobbyist for Microsoft. In 2018 he was promoted to DHS undersecretary for the National Protection and Programs Directorate, which became CISA with legislation signed in November 2018. Krebs became the de facto “cyber czar” when the White House eliminated the cybersecurity coordinator position at the National Security Council. During his tenure, he worked not just on shoring up America’s creaky election security but also on cybersecurity and ransomware threats at hospitals, utilities, and other critical infrastructure.

    Krebs won widespread praise for increasing trust and cooperation with disparate federal agencies, hackers, and state and local election officials. He survived several shakeups at Trump’s DHS, but his “Rumor Control” initiative to swat down election misinformation was evidently a bridge too far for Trump, whose misinformation Krebs repeatedly, if indirectly, debunked. “Honored to serve,” Krebs tweeted after his firing. “We did it right. Defend Today, Secure Tomorrow.” Peter Weber

  21. ExEssex says:

    9:37 during my time in the NJ schools i found them particularly unpleasant places to work.

  22. 3b says:

    Lib: We are NJ the best and the brightest and we can well afford to pay for it all. It’s an honor and a privilege.

  23. ExEssex says:

    Res judicata – a great name for a band.

  24. 3b says:

    NJ s 3.7 Billion Covid deal yesterday was oversubscribed 12 to 13 times with 40 billion in orders yesterday.

  25. Libturd says:

    I can only imagine the cost run an empty train. Amtrak is .50 cents per passenger mile. An 8 car set at full capacity carries 1,000 passengers. Figure our electrified line is about 16 miles from end to end leaving off the diesel set which continues another 60 or so miles west and north. So that’s $8,000 a trip times 31 round trips per day. That’s half a milllion a dollars a day. What do you think it would cost to run 4 buses that go back and forth 31 times a day? I know I can rent a bus with driver, gas included for about $1,200 per day.

    $500,000 vs. $5,000

    It’s good to be in the government.

  26. Phoenix says:

    “Google Bad 4 Kids’: Barricaded Teacher Tries To Jump Out Hackensack Apartment Window.”

    In other news, “Crazy” teacher transferred to Google headquarters in Mountain View, California to be re-assimilated back into the Google Collective.

  27. Phoenix says:

    One must always submit to the hive mind of the Google Collective.

  28. Phoenix says:

    Guess when she was previously assimilated no one told her “Resistance is Futile.”

  29. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s good to be in the government.

    Wait until you see what the new administration is going to do. You want bloated waste AND communal control? Sit back and enjoy as the left1st weepers slowly suffocate you.

  30. Libturd says:

    Yet, Murphy doesn’t have 60 million to spend on cop cams?

  31. 3b says:

    Governor of Oregon said that if people have more than 6 people for Thanksgiving they can be subject to 30 days in jail. How she plans on enforcing that she did not say. The same woman who did nothing while mobs destroyed Portland. Just saying.

  32. Phoenix says:

    “How she plans on enforcing that she did not say.”

    She is not going to enforce it. It’s not possible. Just an empty threat. Unless of course your neighbors don’t like you and rat you out-then the po-po will come to your house- but remember, don’t resist. Or you might just become the turkey who gets cooked.

  33. Phoenix says:

    Lib,
    No cameras no evidence.

    See how that works.

    By now all cars should have basic recording systems into them kind of like Tesla does. Really how much do 4 small cameras and a microphone really add into the cost of a 4ok SUV today?

  34. Phoenix says:

    “This style of popcorn works well for your establishment since the non-uniform shapes allow you to fill serving sizes with less product to maximize profits.”

    Genetically designed to rip people off. American Business popcorn.

    Or are they trying to do Americans a favor by lowering their BMI with “less product?”

    Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

  35. 3b says:

    Sign on an office building for lease in Paramus says you belong here, your pants miss you!! A little humor I guess!

  36. ExEssex says:

    Let’s start a War! No, really it’s a great idea.

  37. ExEssex says:

    I’m just spit’ ballin here but maybe test out the new nukes??

  38. Phoenix says:

    737 Max is cleared to fly.

    Anyone up to going for a ride? With only 3 passengers it could probably do a near vertical climb.

    Sounds like fun.

  39. No One says:

    Libturd,
    Dollar costs will probably stay the same but revenue is plummeting. I guess the union has rules preventing layoffs so the state thinks they may as well run the trains anyway? Still they could reduce power costs by reducing trains.
    The Democrat way to react to the crisis would be to hire consultants to deal with racial justice and LGBT prejudice within in the NJ Transit workforce. Because then more of the correct-thinking people can ride on that gravy train.
    Perhaps they can even host struggle sessions on the nearly empty trains.

  40. joyce says:

    Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers

    A Randomized Controlled Trial

    https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

  41. Very Stable Genius says:

    Howard Stern says Trump TV would fail within a year ‘like all the other businesses’
    Published: Nov. 17, 2020 at 12:42 p.m. ET
    By Nicole Lyn Pesce

    The shock jock and former Trump friend also called on the sitting president to concede the election to Biden

    Howard Stern had some candid, constructive criticism for President Trump.

    The King of All Media doesn’t think President Donald Trump would have much success in running a news network.

    ‘That’ll fail inside of a year like all the other businesses. This is just insanity what’s going on.’

  42. No One says:

    Joyce,
    Wearing a surgical mask dropped infection rates from 2.1% to 1.8%. La Di Frickkin Da.
    I assume a vaccination would drop infection rates from 2.1% to about 0.1%.
    Why is the FDA dragging its feet while politicians still obsess over the marginal benefits of masks.
    Why don’t people test n95 type masks that actually filter the relevant contaminant?
    Instead of virtue signaling with cloth masks.

  43. Fast Eddie says:

    Fayette County, Georgia found another 2,755 ballots. G0d, I would love a civil war. Please bring it on!

  44. ExEssex says:

    It’s over dude. GA can find their @sshole with both hands.
    Doesn’t matter. Bye Donny.

  45. Libturd says:

    I am spending Friday and Saturday stripping and restaining this sideboard someone in Montclair gave away for free for anyone willing to pick it up. I rented the Home Depot truck for $20 and stuck it in my garage. It’s currently red and intentionally distressed, so it looks horrible. I spent two hours on Saturday removing all of the hardware and cleaning it up for stripping. It must have been in their garage for multiple years.

    I looked up the price. It’s a $9,000 Georgian made Habersham. Boo-Ya!

    https://habershamhome.com/Furniture/habersham-sideboard

    I’ll post a picture when it’s done. Lots and lots of surface area to deal with.

  46. crushednjmillenial says:

    Pending recounts, Biden won a squeaker.

    GA – 16 electoral votes – Margin = 14,000 votes
    AZ – 11 electoral votes – Margin = 11,000 votes
    WI – 10 electoral votes – Margin = 20,000 votes.

    If these 45,000 votes go the other way, it is 269-269. If it tied, Trump wins (assuming the process played out along partisan lines).

    Crazy close considering Covid was expected to absolutely tank Trump’s re-election chances.

  47. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Biden will start wars just like Obama. The lobbyists will get what the lobbyists want with joe.

    He’s already handed theDOE over to the teachers union ensuring that poor kids are trapped in failing schools and maintaining their government dependence. That’s the #1 issue for the democrat party. Bang for your vote buying buck.

  48. Libtard says:

    That study is interesting, but leaves out a very important variable. There was no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others. I have a feeling the numbers significantly improve when masks are handled and worn properly by BOTH parties.

  49. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    If you really believe in science, take a look at the pre tds studies. Masks are worthless against aerosols.

    Sheeple also wore tinfoil hats during the Cold War to prevent radiation sickness. These taken things make them feel like they aren’t helpless.

  50. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s over dude. GA can find their @sshole with both hands.
    Doesn’t matter. Bye Donny

    Don’t worry, your wife will continue to support you. The point, as you again miss by a mile, is that this type of election behavior is what’s usually done in a small country in Central America. No one who despises your ilk or what it stands for is asking for anything. No Trump supporters are destroying anything or seeking some sort of retribution. It’s what losers do. It’s what weaklings do. It’s what deadbeats do. It’s what the left stands for. The anger comes from a very flawed, inaccurate, faulty and imprecise system. It’s an epic error-prone process. Why the fear of a voter ID card? Or a VPN, RSA or secure app? I know the answer… it’s because that means legitimacy and truth, things that liberals avoid like a vampire avoids a cruc1fix.

  51. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Do you understand what happens to the economy if you cut this for savings? You hurt the economy more than you will save. How many businesses will go out of business as these workers are no longer buying stuff since you cut their job. How many will now be on unemployment lines? There is a reason public service is separate from the private economy and not run the same. It’s the only way of not destroying the economy during bad times.

    Right now, it’s to our benefit that more people don’t lose their jobs and slow down the economy even more. We want to get out of this hole.

    “So why are we paying for staffing, unnecessary and expensive wear-and-tear on nearly completely empty train sets. These sets are running the same schedule they ran pre-covid too. Plus, I’m sure you are all aware that NJ Transit couldn’t even come close to making ends meet when they were at overcapacity. How dumb are we to put up with this? Gotta get outta this charity for the public worker state.”

  52. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Go ahead, get rid of it in the name of savings. See what happens. You are only looking at this from one angle as opposed to the big picture. Understand that money is moving through the economy and not staying in one individual’s pocket.

    Libturd says:
    November 18, 2020 at 10:21 am
    I can only imagine the cost run an empty train. Amtrak is .50 cents per passenger mile. An 8 car set at full capacity carries 1,000 passengers. Figure our electrified line is about 16 miles from end to end leaving off the diesel set which continues another 60 or so miles west and north. So that’s $8,000 a trip times 31 round trips per day. That’s half a milllion a dollars a day. What do you think it would cost to run 4 buses that go back and forth 31 times a day? I know I can rent a bus with driver, gas included for about $1,200 per day.

    $500,000 vs. $5,000

    It’s good to be in the government.

  53. njtownhomer says:

    “some sort of retribution ….. ”

    – planning to kidnap a governor perhaps?
    – hitting a few women before getting punched in the face
    – entering without a mask in closed areas, spitting out in the stores
    – yelling screaming, trying to throw out millions of legal votes
    – bypassing the elector selection process
    – sending money to pay the legal Rudy but indirectly sending to a fraud PAC

    perhaps you can also send your investment gains to your cult leader.

  54. Phoenix says:

    “Understand that money is moving through the economy and not staying in one individual’s pocket.”

    Put it back in this individuals pocket who is working and would love to and needs to spend it.
    That’s where it belongs.

  55. D-FENS says:

    Democrats (rightfully and legally) would be doing the exact same thing if the margins were so close. I’m a little sick of the “HE’S UNDERMINING OUR DEMOCRACY!!!” narrative.

    crushednjmillenial says:
    November 18, 2020 at 1:46 pm
    Pending recounts, Biden won a squeaker.

    GA – 16 electoral votes – Margin = 14,000 votes
    AZ – 11 electoral votes – Margin = 11,000 votes
    WI – 10 electoral votes – Margin = 20,000 votes.

  56. ExEssex says:

    2:24 you could milk my ilk…

    https://youtu.be/9kJKVi52Jmg

  57. ExEssex says:

    1:42 thats amazing

  58. Fast Eddie says:

    The musings of weak arguments supplied by weak diatribe. Do you want me to list the number of hardcore hand grenades the left has launched every day for four years? All the progressive pacifiers can do is lob anemic claims to defend their lunacy. Bypassing the elector selection process? You mean, having the swing states whine and cry to the states courts to rig the process at the last minute because they can’t do it through the legislature? Too many arms to break there. Fraud PACs? Unlike the Clinton Foundation and the O’Biden syndicate? I hope all you progressives gag on your “victory” gravy.

  59. Hold my beer says:

    Libturd

    Are you going to keep it or flip it?

  60. chicagofinance says:

    Isn’t that the tag line for NJ Lottery commercials?

    Hold my beer says:
    November 18, 2020 at 9:28 am
    Doesn’t New Jersey have alimony for life?

  61. chicagofinance says:

    You have to see my 14 year old son participate in his gym class remote. The first time I saw it I laughed so hard that I was crying.

    Libturd says:
    November 18, 2020 at 9:37 am
    Meanwhile, gym teachers, lunch ladies, probably a solid ten percent of the unionized staff will be paid in full to do nothing for a year.

  62. chicagofinance says:

    Isn’t that a show on HGTV?

    Hold my beer says:
    November 18, 2020 at 3:12 pm
    Libturd

    Are you going to keep it or flip it?

  63. ExEssex says:

    Joe Biden Crosses 79 Million Votes, 10 Million More Than Any Other President in History

  64. Hold my beer says:

    I thought it was one of Phoenix’s pick up lines.

    “chicagofinance says:
    November 18, 2020 at 3:23 pm
    Isn’t that a show on HGTV?

    Hold my beer says:
    November 18, 2020 at 3:12 pm
    Libturd

    Are you going to keep it or flip it?”

  65. JCer says:

    Essex that in and of itself should raise some eyebrows……

    10m more votes than any candidate in US history…..Biden……and you wonder why the trumptards are crying foul. Even if you don’t believe there was fraud that stretches the imagination.

  66. No One says:

    JCer,
    Not really. Trump got the second most number of votes of all time. Both sides declared this “the most important election of their lifetimes” and more states mailed out ballots than ever, which made it easier to vote generally. So even low-motivation voters had an easier time voting. Did new voter registration also set records? I bet yes.
    Normally Biden wouldn’t motivate a lot of voters to turn out, but Trump’s personal flaws plus social media magnification helped turn out anti-trump voters. Had Trump ever learned to act “presidential” he might have won.

    That said, I think voting should require some kind of secure identification. Of all the things the government regulates, it’s not an accident that this is the one function about which democrats seem “laissez-faire”.

  67. relo says:

    Silly progressive squad, belief in Biden’s campaign promises are for kids.

  68. JCer says:

    No One, actually most metropolitan areas show about the same excitement about Biden as HRC. The results look fishy….

  69. Phoenix says:

    And the hemorrhage continues- but taxes and housing prices rise…
    https://www.nj.com/bergen/2020/11/nabisco-factory-in-nj-may-close-company-says.html

  70. Phoenix says:

    We can’t even make our empty slow trains safe. Banana republic service with top shelf prices.

    https://www.nj.com/traffic/2020/11/feds-nj-transit-is-only-us-railroad-in-danger-of-missing-safety-system-deadline.html

  71. crushednjmillenial says:

    Nabisco/Mondelez . . .

    I have a friend who claims a relative works on the manufacturing line in a Mondelez cookie plant in NJ making over $100k per year (including overtime). I noted to myself that the article mentioned union representatives weighing in on the potential plant closure in Fair Lawn. Property taxes on the Fair Lawn facility . . . a cool $1,005,662.25 per year for 39.71 acres.

    Lol at Gottheimer or the mayor of Fair Lawn thinking they have anything to say whatsoever to a multinational corporation. The big corporations can move capital, jobs and facilities whereever they want. The mayor of Fair Lawn can slap around 3 Brothers Pizza, Ainu Sushi, and a teacher without tenure all day, but big companies would and should and can laugh at his protestations while pissing on his head from the top of their tallest building in his town.

    As you might guess from my username, I have a graduate degree and have never cracked $100k/year in my life, while working in tough (albeit, white collar) conditions.

  72. crushednjmillenial says:

    Turnout for this election was very weird . . .

    I am not qualified to judge if there was a single fradulent ballot. I do not have any view into the vote-counting system to have an intelligent opinion about vote counting. Still, these numbers for this election just look very weird in historical context. Trump got 11m more votes than 2016 and still lost? Biden, who no one was excited about, got 14m more votes than HRC?

    Going back from 1980 to present:

    Year – R votes – D votes – leading third party candidate votes – Total (of top three candidates):

    1980 – 43,903,230 – 35,480,115 – 5,719,850 – 85,103,195
    1984 – 54,455,472 – 37,577,352 – 228,111 – 92,260,935
    1988 – 48,886,597 – 41,809,074 – 431,750 – 91,127,421
    1992 – 39,104,550 – 44,909,889 – 19,743,821 – 103,758,260
    1996 – 39,197,469 – 47,401,185 – 8,085,294 – 94,683,948
    2000 – 50,456,002 – 50,999,897 – 2,882,955 – 104,338,854
    2004 – 62,040,610 – 59,028,444 – 465,650 – 121,534,704
    2008 – 59,948,323 – 69,498,516 – 739,034 – 130,185,873
    2012 – 60,933,504 – 65,915,795 – 1,275,971 – 128,125,270
    2016 – 62,984,828 – 65,853,514 – 4,489,341 – 133,327,683
    2020 – 73,470,739 – 79,303,143 – 1,800,000 – 154,573,882

  73. Phoenix says:

    “I have a graduate degree and have never cracked $100k/year in my life,”

    Not saying this is you, but 80k with pension and Cadillac health benefits plus tenure is worth more than 100k without those things.
    So a teacher making 70k is way ahead of a corporate stiff making 100k. Especially since most are women and most will live 10 years longer than the sucker they married.

  74. Phoenix says:

    Boomer from Oreoville, NJ will retire and sell you his Fair Lawn crap shack for 600k when Nabisco closes. They will be nice enough to leave you a state pension deficit of 200 Billion plus for you to pay as well along with almond appliances. Of course, your town will be losing a ratable as well so pony up!

    Welcome to NJ home ownership.
    https://www.vox.com/2017/12/20/16772670/baby-boomers-millennials-congress-debt

  75. 3b says:

    How is Cuomo qualified to say he does not believe the vaccine is safe? What an ego!

  76. grim says:

    I have a friend who claims a relative works on the manufacturing line in a Mondelez cookie plant in NJ making over $100k per year (including overtime).

    It’s highly automated sanitary manufacturing. Suspect “works on the line” is vastly misinterpreted, the Keebler elves aren’t baking cookies in little ovens.

  77. grim says:

    How is Cuomo qualified to say he does not believe the vaccine is safe? What an ego!

    Is Greta not going to go after this science denier?

  78. BRT says:

    Let him delay the vaccine. Between that and his nursing home massacre that he caused, he’s going to take NY past NJ as worst performing region in the entire world by any metric.

  79. chicagofinance says:

    Boomers with a state or municipal pension leave New Jersey because “it is too expensive here”…… clueless idiots……

    Phoenix says:
    November 18, 2020 at 7:12 pm
    Boomer from Oreoville, NJ will retire and sell you his Fair Lawn crap shack for 600k when Nabisco closes. They will be nice enough to leave you a state pension deficit of 200 Billion plus for you to pay as well along with almond appliances. Of course, your town will be losing a ratable as well so pony up!

  80. chicagofinance says:
  81. 3b says:

    Big loss for Fairlawn over one million a year. 39 acres, lots of apartments can be built there.

  82. 3b says:

    Chgo: State pension maybe they should be penalized if they move out of state at retirement.

  83. Fabius Maximus says:

    I had a friend who was worked at Nabisco. He would bring samples straight from the line, still warm and soft.

    There is nothing better than driving 208 in the rain when the smell is strongest.

  84. Phoenix says:

    Anytime someone wanted to take their parents/grandparents home they could have.

    Their blood is on their relatives hands. Most women will take in her parents but not his.

  85. Phoenix says:

    “State pension maybe they should be penalized if they move out of state at retirement.”

    Sure. Boomers are fine with that. As long as they are “Grandfathered” and that law will not apply to them.

  86. ExEssex says:

    8:23 maskless when eating out is par for the course.
    The Gov is aight.

  87. ExEssex says:

    Besides everyone on this board is a massive CuomoSexual.

  88. No One says:

    I wonder if Coumo likes thinking about how many lefty gay guys jerk off thinking of him.

  89. BRT says:

    Their blood is on their relatives hands. Most women will take in her parents but not his.

    Doesn’t change the fact that policy was idiotic. In fact, if your 2nd statement is true, I guess it was his civic duty to do anything but what he did.

  90. ExEssex says:

    More corruption:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Before William Barr became President Donald Trump’s choice to lead the U.S. Department of Justice, he represented Caterpillar Inc, a Fortune 100 company, in a federal criminal investigation by the department.
    Much was at stake for Caterpillar: Since 2018, the Internal Revenue Service has been demanding $2.3 billion in payments from the company in connection with the tax matters under criminal investigation. The company is contesting that finding.

    A week after Barr was nominated for the job of attorney general, Justice officials in Washington told the investigative team in the active criminal probe of Caterpillar to take “no further action” in the case, according to an email written by one of the agents and reviewed by Reuters.

    The decision, the email said, came from the Justice Department’s Tax Division and the office of the deputy attorney general, who was then Rod Rosenstein.

    “I was instructed on December 13, 2018,” wrote the agent, Jason LeBeau, “that the Tax Division and the Office of the Deputy Attorney General jointly came to the decision that no further action was to be taken on the matter until further notice.” LeBeau, an inspector general agent at the U.S. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, declined interview requests from Reuters.

  91. Phoenix says:

    Dear Children,
    If you were so worried about Granny and Grandpa, why not take them home when hospitals were overflowing? Shortage of toilet paper perhaps?

    In addition, it’s unclear the extent to which the governor’s policy was responsible for nursing home COVID-19 deaths. Infection control is a long-standing problem in nursing homes, predating the pandemic, and a report showed peak numbers of nursing home deaths came prior to the peak influx of patients as a result of Cuomo’s advisory. While the introduction of COVID-19 positive patients into nursing homes no doubt had an effect on infection spread, Caputo’s statement suggests it was solely responsible. That’s not what the evidence shows.

    We rate this Mostly False.

    https://khn.org/news/is-cuomo-directive-to-blame-for-nursing-home-covid-deaths-as-us-official-claims/

  92. Libturd says:

    HMB,

    Will keep it for now. We’ll see how she comes out.

  93. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    So Nabisco waits until after the election they think Biden won to announce they are shipping 600 jobs to MX. Sounds about right. There should be a wave of these announcements. Biden just hired 40 lobbyists. They will find a loophole for everyone.

  94. Juice Box says:

    Oreo’s are bad for you.

    Nabisco sold out to the Globalists decades ago, palm oil deforestation, millions of children used to pick cocoa in Africa.

    Who need their crap….

  95. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why give stimulus? Why was stimulus so needed? This is what I meant in my post, that cutting those govt jobs does more harm to the economy than good. Now, if we could get the corporate elite to understand the harm they do when they ship/eliminate jobs in the name of cost. They are shooting themselves in the foot most of the time, but just don’t realize it because they only view the world in the short term, not long term.

    Phoenix says:
    November 18, 2020 at 2:59 pm
    “Understand that money is moving through the economy and not staying in one individual’s pocket.”

    Put it back in this individuals pocket who is working and would love to and needs to spend it.
    That’s where it belongs.

  96. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, your company saved money, but at the expense of the future economy. One less American having a stable job, and one more american now living off the govt as they get tossed around in the job market. Now they have no stability in their life, and their buying patterns reflect that. This hurts the economy in the long term.

  97. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    I know two people who worked SAP for Kraft in east Hanover which became Mondelez. It was a sweat shop. They were all shown the door and the IT operations moved to Brazil.

    I try not to buy their products and absolutely will not buy any made in MX. If they want to make their products in MX, be my guest, good luck selling them to Mexicans.

  98. 3b says:

    Lib: That piece of furniture won’t work with your decor in Costa Rica. Just saying.

  99. Phoenix says:

    Dems and Repups. All the same garbage. Money hungry who**s. It’s not Trump vs Biden when it comes to Covid. People are going to do what they want. Hey, a trip to Hawaii on taxpayer dollars, not passing that up.

    Let the virus do what it does best.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8964599/Eight-California-lawmakers-spark-outrage-flying-Maui-conference-despite-Covid-restrictions.html

  100. Phoenix says:

    “Now, if we could get the corporate elite to understand the harm they do ”

    Your first mistake is to think they care.

    Corporations are like lightning, they strike where it’s best for them. They don’t have loyalty to any nation or any person, just to themselves.

    Pumpy, sorry to tell you, but Ford and Chevy don’t love you no matter how many ads they play about baseball and apple pie.

  101. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nailed it…

    “Your first mistake is to think they care.”

  102. Very Stable Genius says:

    Hillbilly Elegy | Netflix Official Site
    1h 57mSocial Issue Dramas. An urgent phone call pulls a Yale Law student back to his Ohio hometown, where he reflects on three generations of family history and his own future. Starring:Amy Adams, Glenn Close, Gabriel Basso.

    He calls Appalachians lazy (“many folks talk about working more than they actually work”). He complains about white “welfare queens.”

  103. Fast Eddie says:

    Yes, Nabisco (Mondelez) is shutting down on route 208 after 60 plus years. O’Biden will raise the corporate tax and will welcome back some version of NAFTA so it’s understandable. Others will follow shortly. Eventually, the progressives will need to come up with some sort of excuse for their failures. “Their” meaning the dreadful performance of the new administration and the progressives blinded view of a non-existent utopia.

  104. Hold my beer says:

    Halolife is having a sale on their masks buy 3 get 1 free if you enter turkeyday in the discount code .

    It’s a mesh mask that uses a replaceable nano fiber filter good for 200 hours. I tried one the other day and it is very comfortable

    I have no affiliation with them other than being a customer. So far best mask I’ve tried. Other masks I bought online didn’t fit right or felt cheap. I’ve been using cloth homemade masks with a disposable mask over it, except for when I went to vote and used an n95 for that.

    Bonus we are setting new case records almost daily now

  105. 3b says:

    Phoenix: They all suck, I have been saying it for years. Yes, with Trump gone, the chaos and temper tantrums, and Twitter ing will be gone. And it will just be back to business as usual, and the decline of this country will continue.

  106. No One says:

    I thought the Hillbilly Elegy book was good, and thoughtful. But I see both left and right bashing the movie. I will watch it when it hits Netflix.

  107. Libturd says:

    3B,

    Most homes in CR come pre-furnished, which is environmentally smart. Bedbugs are free.

  108. ExEssex says:

    9:58 Trump made this Country great again,
    Now he has to join Q and fight the child molesters.

  109. Libturd says:

    3B,

    Biden’s appointments are exactly what you would expect. Payback to campaign financiers, lobbyists, oil industry darlings. Not a peep from the left. Saw an article where the headline was, Biden returns to tradition in his appointments. Pretty funny.

    Gary,

    Stop calling Biden a progressive. He is way closer to NeoCon than progressive.

  110. SomeOne says:

    Lib, most of the US is quite a bit to the right of many developed countries, both in terms of economic and social issues. The main strength of the US is its diversity (both in good and bad).

    Eddie,
    O’Biden will raise the corporate tax and will welcome back some version of NAFTA so it’s understandable.
    So, will this be after Trump concedes the election that he “won by a lot”, or will it be after your dream of civil war?

  111. Fast Eddie says:

    So, will this be after Trump concedes the election that he “won by a lot”, or will it be after your dream of civil war?

    He won’t officially conceded… why should he? The left1st brigade never recognized his presidency, attacked those who questioned anything and censored debate of any dissent for four years. O’Bidden will be sworn in and you’ll slowly be strangled to death without even realizing it. But why would you care? Support for the lesser masses is what your side clamors for… as long as your personal time, space and money isn’t involved.

    As for the civil war and/or secession, it’s happening:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/17/oregon-idaho-border-petition-secede/4789936002/

  112. leftwing says:

    “…Caputo’s statement suggests it was solely responsible. That’s not what the evidence shows. We rate this Mostly False.”

    Easy to demonstrate a view isn’t valid when you frame the question in the absolute, ie. solely.

    Cowards. Do the fcuking homework and come up with the answer to the real question, not a copout.

    To what extent did Cuomo’s actions unnecessarily kill nursing home seniors?

  113. leftwing says:

    “Your first mistake is to think they care.”

    Although referencing corporations I would argue that the statement is at least as applicable, if not more, to career politicians.

    But, hey, the Mean Man will be gone shortly and we’ll have someone in office who says he cares so everything will be unicorns who fart skittles.

  114. Phoenix says:

    “But, hey, the Mean Man will be gone shortly and we’ll have someone in office who says he cares so everything will be unicorns who fart skittles.”

    Anyone with common sense knows that’s not true. I’m no economist but I still believe there is one hell of a cliff America’s about to fall off of. Left if you can PM me as I need someone of your skills to address something.

  115. Phoenix says:

    Lib has my contact info.

  116. relo says:

    Biden is amazing. Just a few weeks after the election and MSM are falling all over themselves to tout new vaccines’ efficacy!

  117. Libturd the senile says:

    Phoenix. Text me real quick and I’ll shoot your digits over to Leftwing. I must have misplaced it. See the impression you left on me?

  118. Libturd says:

    relo.

    You gotta PAY to PLAY.

    Will still take rampant (and predictive) corruption over constant lies.

  119. A Home Buyer says:

    “If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don’t have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.”

  120. chicagofinance says:

    The movie was panned…… it got Hollywooded…. you will be repelled…. skip

    No One says:
    November 19, 2020 at 10:39 am
    I thought the Hillbilly Elegy book was good, and thoughtful. But I see both left and right bashing the movie. I will watch it when it hits Netflix.

  121. chicagofinance says:

    Fast: he needs to concede by Thanksgiving…. it is a distraction and only serves to weaken leverage

    Fast Eddie says:
    November 19, 2020 at 11:44 am
    So, will this be after Trump concedes the election that he “won by a lot”, or will it be after your dream of civil war?

    He won’t officially conceded… why should he? The left1st brigade never recognized his presidency, attacked those who questioned anything and censored debate of any dissent for four years. O’Bidden will be sworn in and you’ll slowly be strangled to death without even realizing it. But why would you care? Support for the lesser masses is what your side clamors for… as long as your personal time, space and money isn’t involved.

  122. D-FENS says:

    Hey guys, I’d like to watch the press conference on voter fraud going on now. Is it on CNN?

  123. chicagofinance says:

    It may happen, but not any time soon. Part of the chaos in the U.S. is a function of how strong the country is……. at the end of the day, there is no money to be made by constantly destroying things….. people get bored and move on (bite my tongue – grow up?)…… the vaccines’ success is the beginning of the end of the worst of this nonsense.

    Phoenix says:
    November 19, 2020 at 12:26 pm
    “But, hey, the Mean Man will be gone shortly and we’ll have someone in office who says he cares so everything will be unicorns who fart skittles.”

    Anyone with common sense knows that’s not true. I’m no economist but I still believe there is one hell of a cliff America’s about to fall off of.

  124. BRT says:

    Fact of the matter is, the US government did a perfect job funding the vaccine to ensure it was developed as fast as possible and as safe as possible, a rarity in terms of policy in my lifetime. Now, let’s see how distribution goes before we start declaring it a success.

  125. Chicago says:

    Did I need to add TO DATE?

  126. Chicago says:

    Question to board.

    I have a large charge coming up from Best Buy. Is there a good method to get a discount or some attribution short of taking out a new BB CC and receive 10% off the first purchase. I do that if needed, but I was looking for alternatives.

    I know they are one of the COVID retail winners so deals are probably less prevalent

    Thank you in advance.

  127. Juce Box says:

    Black Friday is coming. Wait? The only other discount is employee but it depends on brand etc. I don’t think anything Apple is discounted, or perhaps buy the floor model approx. 25% off. I buy open box laptops and stuff from them they usually toss in a warranty too.

  128. Hold my beer says:

    Chicago

    Some credit cards allow you to turn points into Best Buy gift cards.

  129. Chicago says:

    It’s a Geek Squad repair charge

  130. relo says:

    Lib, I agree that Trump is very flawed. However, my point above is really about the MSM. It is quite amazing that with all the headwinds tbat Trump had to face that he received enough votes to make the election as close as it was (and may have actually won, according to some).

  131. relo says:

    That…for anyone who couldn’t figure it out for themselves.

  132. njtownhomer says:

    Must read for upcoming elector games.

    “18 U.S. Code § 595 says “Whoever…uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President…” shall be fined, imprisoned or both. ”

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/595

  133. SomeOne says:

    relo,

    MSM has been constantly talking about how GOP down the ballot races outperformed, and that Pelosi’s career/influence are on the wane. The elephant in the room is that the President hasn’t conceded. So, would that be the news or the fact that he “came close” be the news?

    Eddie,
    as long as your personal time, space and money isn’t involved.
    You mean like taxes/charity and such, or something else? The country is rich enough that it can take care of ALL all the residents very well, without making a dent in the golden toilets of the rich. Yet, the GOP seems to want to cut the taxes for the rich and squeeze the poor.

    I think a few of us here likely had no benefits from Trump’s tax cuts or stimulus checks and will likely pay higher taxes in Biden’s admin, but isn’t it a better position to be in than making less money and a lower marginal tax rate.

  134. relo says:

    SomeOne,
    I have not personally heard anyone talking about how Pelosi’s influence is waning. In reference to Republicans down the ballot outperforming it is only in reference to how the “Blue Wave” did not come to fruition.

  135. Fast Eddie says:

    The country is rich enough that it can take care of ALL all the residents very well…

    From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Nothing will belong to you; no assets or capital… including your freedom. In exchange for being “cared” for, you’re now a public object, sustained at the expense of the public, provided that the public has the will to slave on in order to justify your existence.

  136. SomeOne says:

    Eddie,
    Isn’t it a bigly leap from point A (basic safety net for all) to point B (where the rich have to give up their golden toilets)?

    Relo,
    googling “cnn.com pelosi”:

    1. Pelosi’s struggle to unite her caucus is just beginning … (20 hours ago)
    2. The end of the Pelosi era is in sight .. (18 hours ago)
    3. Pelosi defiant despite House Democratic losses: ‘I take credit for winning a majority’ (6 days ago)
    4. Hill Democrats vent over struggles in congressional races as calls grow for shift in tactics … And many are second-guessing decisions by party leaders, including the failure of Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Steven … (2 weeks ago)

  137. Bystander says:

    Klepper takes on Million..I mean Thousand Maga March. The rational “producers” of society. Want a band of nut jobs.

    https://youtu.be/hyLpbO5S4xE

  138. Phoenix says:

    Can’t have everything.

    https://bit.ly/3fjOrjp

  139. Juice Box says:

    Somebody get a net and toss it over Giuliani . Just watched snippets of his news conference today, Cuba and Venezuela? He is prob just bilking or “billing” the Trump Campaign for a few million since all of his other work has dried up.

  140. Hold my beer says:

    Juice

    I liked the hair dye dripping down his face.

  141. SomeOne says:

    Phoenix,

    Re: https://bit.ly/3fjOrjp

    Eddie has been getting promoted at a super-fast rate (based on his own posts), yet has been throwing temper tantrums, when his red team wins and when his red team loses.

  142. Very Stable Genius says:

    Trump Tax Write-Offs Are Ensnared in 2 New York Fraud Investigations

    Inquiries into the president and his businesses, one criminal and one civil, are now looking at tax deductions taken on consulting fees. Some of the payments appear to have gone to Ivanka Trump.

    Image
    Eric, Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr. with their father at a hotel event. Ms. Trump seems to have been paid as a consultant for the project while also working for the family business.Credit…Andy Clark/Reuters
    By Danny Hakim, Mike McIntire, William K. Rashbaum and Ben Protess

    Nov. 19, 2020
    Updated 7:51 p.m. ET
    Two separate New York State fraud investigations into President Trump and his businesses, one criminal and one civil, have expanded to include tax write-offs on millions of dollars in consulting fees, some of which appear to have gone to Ivanka Trump, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

  143. ExEssex says:

    Noooooice: ADVERTISEMENT

    Georgia election official says hand tally of presidential race is complete, the results affirm Biden’s lead over Trump
    an hour ago
    ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia election official says hand tally of presidential race is complete, the results affirm Biden’s lead over Trump.

  144. The Great Pumpkin says:

    A Vietnamese Italian fusion restaurant called Pho-gettaboutit

  145. Chicago says:

    The fusion of a Polish Wayne resident and a porcelain bathroom fixture called The Great Pumpkin Toilet.

  146. Chicago says:

    Stu: which is better? Three Piece Suit or this?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qXXzDygswZk

  147. Fabius Maximus says:

    Hey Gary, do you need your safe space?

    Obama’s memoir sold more than 887,000 copies on Tuesday’s debut that Penguin/Random House said is the largest first-day sales for any book it has ever published.

  148. Fast Eddie says:

    Fabisu,

    Obama’s memoir sold more than 887,000 copies

    Bonfires require a sizeable amount of expendable litter.

  149. No One says:

    So sad John cannot be here for this news story.
    New York Post : Men with small pen1ses have this advantage over well-hung guys.
    https://nypost.com/2020/11/19/heres-how-salary-corresponds-to-pen1s-size-study/
    I suspect this study doesn’t control for race.
    Replace the 1 to make the link work

  150. Phoenix says:

    Sad day for Giuliani. Boomer is such a mess. Once a hero, now an internet meme.

  151. Hold my beer says:

    Figures fast Eddie would be into book burnings

  152. ExEssex says:

    oNlY i cAn fIX hEalThCarE

    -Twump

  153. Phoenix says:

    Happy Friday.
    Do you have a pulse? If so, it’s a good day.

    Stay Frosty.

  154. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Well now we see why the Biden and the propaganda industry resorted to the nuclear threat “if trump doesn’t concede immediately you will die”.

    Don’t look behind the scenes to see how democrats use their political machines to corrupt elections perpetually.

  155. Phoenix says:

    Fear is a powerful motivator and manipulator.
    Beware of those who have nothing to fear. Some people don’t care anymore.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-main-ingredient/200909/the-most-powerful-motivator

  156. D-FENS says:

    Walk Toward the fire. Don’t worry about what they call you. All those things are said against you because they want to stop you in your tracks. But if you keep going, you’re sending a message to people who are rooting for you, who are agreeing with you. The message is that they can do it, too.

    TruthIsTheEnemy says:
    November 20, 2020 at 8:31 am
    Well now we see why the Biden and the propaganda industry resorted to the nuclear threat “if trump doesn’t concede immediately you will die”.

    Don’t look behind the scenes to see how democrats use their political machines to corrupt elections perpetually.

  157. Phoenix says:

    DFENS
    ++++

  158. Hold my beer says:

    Your Karen of the day. Falsifying drug tests so parents lose custody of their kids

    Even has one of the official Karen haircuts

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/20/lab-owner-jailed-for-faking-drug-tests-that-cost-parents-child-custody/

  159. BRT says:

    Giuliani is clearly not the person he was when he was mayor. He’s old and definitely not playing with a full deck on many issues. Maybe he should run for president.

  160. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    Saw that. Guess her “maternal instinct” or ruining the lives of children did not matter.
    What about the justice system? Don’t those muppets ever check anything? Of course not-it was not the “justice” system that caught this cretin, although they will post their picture for the credit.

    Kudos to the mother and doctor that did the detective work while the “detectives” enjoyed donuts while choking a guy for a “loosie.”

    Bet those families and kids won’t be able to sue the govt for one thin dime either for a lack of due diligence.

  161. Phoenix says:

    Q-Tip aka Mike Pence is silent. Guess he is preparing to head out into the sunset.

  162. Phoenix says:

    To serve and protect.

    “Michael Nussbaum, a 49-year-old resident of Northern Virginia, remembers the day his Boy Scout Explorers troop leader, a police sergeant in the Miami area, asked him if he wanted to look at magazines. Thinking he meant comic books, the then-14-year-old boy agreed. Instead, the troop leader placed X-rated magazines on a desk in front of him and started groping Nussbaum, he said. The sergeant placed a gun on a table and told Nussbaum that if he ever said anything about what happened, no one would believe him.

    Nussbaum ultimately reported the incident. The sergeant, Jon Wyatt, was found guilty of sexually abusing minors. He is serving a life sentence. But the trauma lingered for Nussbaum, and he often found himself having problems with authority figures. “My dreams of being a police officer were completely diminished,” he said.”

  163. Hold my beer says:

    Phoenix

    I wonder if she was targeting only non whites, or is she an equal opportunity destroyer of families.

  164. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    Of course she could have, or not. Probably chose people at random to make her business look legit.

    Question is why does the court system take her results at face value without checking? No certification required? I can only imagine the tongue lashing these families got from law enforcement and judges as they perform their “righteous justice.” Bet they slept well at night knowing in the morning what “heroics” they performed the day before while these people suffered.

    Now here is one young felon. Easy kid, I know she took your iPad away but really. And those strained peas-enough of that already.
    http://dailym.ai/2UK4Tjx

  165. SomeOne says:

    BRT

    Giuliani is clearly not the person he was when he was mayor. He’s old and definitely not playing with a full deck on many issues. Maybe he should run for president.

    What are the odds that Rudy will recommend DJT to go file a case against CA result (enough electoral votes to switch the result)? Rudy may be able to charge much for than 20k/day for that.

  166. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Rudy has declined. I don’t think as much as Biden but a similar trajectory.

    I wouldn’t dismiss the team as easily. That are all alphas just like trumps. They like to win period. There is no back down.

    If a case makes it to court, a bunch of activist punk democrats and their handlers would be hot knife going through butter.

  167. Hold my beer says:

    Phoenix

    That kid needs more practice

  168. Hold my beer says:

    Georgia certifies Biden

  169. Hold my beer says:

    A Republican losing Georgia to a democrat from the north is rarer than a fried chicken going out of business in Texas

  170. Bystander says:

    As usual, Truth is obsessed with masculinity. Never fails to mention it. His definition of alpha male is the one who bloviates the biggest lie in the room against the other side. I save terms like alpha male for real leaders like Eisenhower. Trump is an big Orange baby, born on third base with no morals. Being a lying, belligerent ass&ole is not alpha but sadly that is what your side apparently needs to see and ultimately project on their “leaders”.

  171. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    I never said anything about gender. Sydney Powell is female. And looks to be the toughest of the bunch. I think you are the one who is obsessed, with identity.

  172. TruthIsAJerk ThatWantsEveryoneToWearOrangeHair says:

    Truth, you are closet h o m o.

    From Dr.Frans De Waal. The original scientist that researched and created Alpha Male.

    https://youtu.be/BPsSKKL8N0s

  173. JCer says:

    I have my doubts about the election but at some point there needs to be some evidence…

    I don’t discount CIA/NSA involvement but how do you prove it? If they were involved they have the tools and influence to go undetected, machine manipulation would be very, very hard to prove(easier to rig an election than to assassinate the president). There is a reason Brennan wants them to invoke the 25th amendment, that guy is bad news.

    The obvious stuff is ham-fisted democratic machine ballot stuffing facilitated by the covid related ballot changes, I don’t for a minute believe all the states decided to take a break from counting or the tales of broken pipes, the other wise shady behavior around counting in secret. Based on the numbers without the mail-in ballot change Trump wins election cleanly despite being a moron. No doubt there was ballot harvesting but how do you prove it, as far as I can tell there is no record of chain of custody and no ability to tie ballots to envelopes(if they even kept them)?

    The clear play is preventing the state from certifying and sending electors. The republicans in GA certifying the recount is a big loss for Trump. I do not see anything they have allowing them to win in court in most of these states. Lots of bluster, little content.

  174. ExEssex says:

    To recap:
    – Raffensperger said the audit checked out, found no fraud, and to his regret as a Trump backer, Biden won Georgia
    – His office announced he certified this result
    – His office then rescinded that announcement
    – Gov. Kemp set a press conf for the certification deadline

  175. BRT says:

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said he does not plan to extend several key emergency lending programs beyond the end of the year and asked the Federal Reserve to return the money supporting them, a decision that could hinder President-elect Joe Biden’s ability to use the central bank’s vast powers to cushion the economic fallout from the virus.

    Mnuchin said Thursday that he would not continue Fed programs, including ones that support the markets for corporate bonds and municipal debt and one that extends loans to mid-sized businesses. The emergency efforts expire at the end of 2020, but investors had expected some or all of them to be kept operational as the virus continues to pose economic risks.

    The pandemic-era programs are run by the Fed but use Treasury money to insure against losses. They have provided an important backstop that has calmed critical markets since the coronavirus took hold in March. Removing them could leave significant corners of the financial world vulnerable to the type of volatility that cascaded through the system as virus fears mounted in the spring.

    Did they just shut the printing press off?

  176. Hold my beer says:

    BRT

    It’s like tuna fishing a car or someone’s dorm before they leave for semester break.

  177. Bystander says:

    Try to be obsessed with integrity, Truth. In no other area of life you would genuflect to a nefarious narcissist like Dumpy, not in a company nor on the battlefield. It is just not true that other side is worse, at least not in this case.

  178. Bystander says:

    FYI, no my post above. I save my fake handles to mock Blumpy when called for.

  179. Hold my beer says:

    Gov Cuomo to get an Emmy . Surprisingly it’s not for tool of the year

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/20/gov-andrew-cuomo-will-receive-emmy-for-covid-19-tv-briefings/

  180. Phoenix says:

    “Gov Cuomo to get an Emmy . Surprisingly it’s not for tool of the year”

    Murphy is tool of the year.

  181. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    Give the kid a break. First round he ever shot hit the target. Police practice for years and miss every day.

  182. Bystander says:

    Uh, oh Blumpy..CNBC alert

    Op-ed: Here’s why Synchrony will embrace the work-from-home model for good

    By Margaret Keane, Synchrony CEO

  183. BRT says:

    He deserves it. Great acting pretending he didn’t slaughter the seniors.

  184. Phoenix says:

    ‘Multiple people shot in mall in Wisconsin’ sparking huge police response.

    Nice way to start off the holidays. Guess I should donate some more blood to prepare for the upcoming festivities.

  185. BRT says:

    lol

    City Councilman Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island) also said that “this is like giving Bill Buckner the Gold Glove Award” for his crucial error in the 1986 World Series, when the Boston Red Sox first baseman let an easy ground ball pass through his legs leading to a Mets comeback and win.

  186. Bystander says:

    Vor(crushed)nados..penny stock 2021.

  187. chicagofinance says:

    What a fcuking dolt…..
    ”In my Oval Office, mi casa, you casa,” Biden told Congress’ two most powerful Democrats at a meeting in his hometown of Wilmington, Del., on Friday, flanked by Vice President-elect Kamala Harris.

  188. Hold my beer says:

    If you want the kid to grow up to be a rock ribbed american producer you must set high standards for them while they are young.

    Phoenix says:
    November 20, 2020 at 4:37 pm
    HMB,
    Give the kid a break. First round he ever shot hit the target. Police practice for years and miss every day.

  189. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What a clown. She just loves the short term savings and is selling it, selling it hard. She doesn’t care what happens to this company long term or she would never push this crap.

    Just think, what employees like working from home? What type? Not the go getter. Not the type that makes a company great. Instead, it’s the slackers who think they can watch Netflix and work at the same time. Just wait till WFH makes this type so lazy, it starts showing up in their work for the company.

    You want a fat ass lazy employee? Just make them a remote WFH worker and watch the transformation slowly take place.

    Bystander says:
    November 20, 2020 at 4:52 pm
    Uh, oh Blumpy..CNBC alert

    Op-ed: Here’s why Synchrony will embrace the work-from-home model for good

    By Margaret Keane, Synchrony CEO

  190. Joe says:

    Should I buy now or wait until the Vaccine has been distributed around March or April?
    You think housing will continue the pandemic price rise?

  191. JoeTakeitEasy NeverHurtsTOWait says:

    Joe, wait till at least 1/22/21 – a lot of questions to be answered.

    Is Biden going to be sworn in at all? Coup d’Etat with troops on street?
    Trump is burning down the house and poisoning the field. The Treasury Sec just fired a big F U to Biden’s economic hopes. December 31, 2020 all the extra aid packages expire. If GA goes to Republican, they are going to make sure the next 2-4 yrs are hell for Biden and nothing gets done. Which will lead to massive despair and frustation by the people which is what the Reps want to take back control, however the most likely outcome this time is political assassinations by both side. Politicians are going to have to live in military bases and have a SWAT behind them when they travel around.

    Controlling outcome is a lot more difficult than it appears. Look up Charles Koch new book about how he admits the all mighty Koch Brothers screwed up big time, and it looked so simple when you did a thought exercise and followed Ayn Rands writings and lectures.

    That is just politics. Vaccine, well survey says 40% of people in NJ will refuse it. Economics, there a lot of zombies out there, not the brain eating types but ones that end with Inc or Corp or LLC, but they are on holding pattern because of low interest rate debt. Same applies for NJ residents that are broke, as in negative worth, nothing to eat, forget about paying rent or mortgage- all that will become way clear after January 2021

  192. 3b says:

    WFH is here to stay regardless of the fear and terror it brings to one of the posters here!

  193. BRT says:

    Gov. Phil Murphy on Friday continued to say all options are “on the table” when it comes to fighting the second wave of the coronavirus pandemic in New Jersey — but he also suggested it’s irresponsible to close indoor dining or nonessential retail stores without more federal aid.

    Too dangerous all summer, with 300 cases a day max. 3500 cases a day…can’t shut it down. I guess lives are expendable now Murph? Clueless. Could have allowed businesses to build a decent buffer in the summer coming into this flu season. Instead…we are begging for a bailout.

  194. ExEssex says:

    8:17 i like WFH. Let’s face it, i just like working in my field.

  195. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s fun to never leave your house. That’s what I want to do with my life, stay locked in my house all day only talking to people through screens. If that’s the future, we are doomed.

    That’s the scary part, the more people get in this rut, the harder it is to get out of. God knows how many people have already become antisocial due to this pandemic. Soon they will be afraid to leave the house, too scared and no ambition to interact with the world if it’s not through a screen. Sad..

    3b says:
    November 20, 2020 at 8:17 pm
    WFH is here to stay regardless of the fear and terror it brings to one of the posters here!

  196. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Go to the store? You mean see other human beings face to face? You mean LEAVE THE HOUSE?! God forbid.

    Tech is really doing the world a disservice.

  197. ExEssex says:

    I leave my house all the time. Sometimes I drive to Malibu (16 miles away).
    Sometimes I shop. WFH just means I have a corner of my house dedicated to trying to make a livin’

  198. 3b says:

    Ex Essex Me too and so do most people. No idea what he is rambling on about. And of course n

    Ex Essex So do I and most others as well that actually WFH.

  199. grim says:

    Malibu is a good time. Ate at a Thai joint on the PCH a few years back, one my my clients took me there for dinner – was thinking, what the hell is this shack of a place. We sat next to Heidi Klum.

  200. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Start buying a house before it becomes a lot more expensive.

    “It may seem strange to be worried about inflation in the midst of a global recession, a pandemic and huge political ructions in the U.S., but I strongly suspect that it’s about to pick up both soon and sharply. How fast this happens depends on how quickly the developed world recovers over the next few months, but pressures are building. As has been the case for many years, global inflation has “Made in Asia” stamped all over it. This time, though, that’s likely to be compounded by much greater supply constraints in the economy.”

    https://apple.news/A35QapHKxT1uZU_v_XtMsgw

  201. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Do you guys actually work? How are you leaving your home when you are supposed to be working?

    Again, you guys have this romanticized view of WFH. You are the ones that think you are going to continue having all this free time? Big brother is watching and they will eliminate your job and hire a part time consultant if you aren’t pushing those keys enough. Use your smarts, tech is trying to control every aspect of your life, and people like you are embracing it.

    And it’s fine you guys go out, you are old. The new generation is becoming anti social. You want to go on zoom dates? Like wtf?! These people are f’ed. Throwing everything away that was good about life. God forbid you leave your house to go to work. God forbid you actually go to the store instead of having it delivered.

  202. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And remember, if you have kids or grandkids, WFH will destroy a lot of opportunities for them as they are now directly competing with workers from India for their job. They are creating the outsourcing model for white collar jobs right before your f’ing eyes and you are cheering it on like a lemming.

  203. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Going to be forced to move to a lower cost location in another country….I wish people could think long term. They are creating a platform where they could move your job to a low cost location with zero costs. We are so f’ed, it’s not even funny.

  204. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Do you think business is looking out for you? You think they are doing this to improve the lives of workers? Nah, it’s always about fattening their bottom line, so be fearful when these CEO’s are selling you this crap like that article posted by bystander yesterday.

  205. Phoenix says:

    You are heroes. Go out and do your “hero” thing. Don’t blame someone else, heroes don’t do that.
    Not once have I ever heard Superman or Spiderman blame someone else. They quietly did their jobs, then disappeared into their mild manner careers.

    “NYPD union chief says commuters have to protect themselves because city is doing NOTHING to stop subway attacks as woman who was shoved onto tracks is identified”

  206. 3b says:

    WFH is here to stay and it’s going to hammer housing prices in this area. NYC and surrounding area will have to be become competitive. The days of high prices for commercial and residential real estate in this area and the accompanying high taxes are coming to an end. WFH is a game changer. All the hysterics against it won’t change that. Plan accordingly.

  207. Phoenix says:

    WFH is going to increase. Competition as well as geography won’t matter, you can get a teacher from Taiwan for 1/10 the cost and Zoom her into your living room.

    Automation is going to kill off many jobs as well. America has also decided that monopolies are fine, Bezos is going to eliminate CVS, Rite Aid and Walgreens in due time.

    Lawyers will keep their jobs as they Zoom due to licensing locations. Medical workers will be hit as you can travel to another state to get your knees replaced where it’s cheaper. Police are the enforcers, that job is going nowhere anytime soon.

  208. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Yea, real estate prices are getting hammered by WFH. Sure. Quite the opposite.

    As for commercial, it’s still land and space in valuable locations. It doesn’t have to be an office, it can be converted.

    So dream on. The wealthy class own real estate and they are not going to abandon it.

  209. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I feel bad for the future. I’m 16 years in already, if this does happen, I will already have played out my career as a teacher anyway. So this isn’t about me, it’s about your kids. Some of them are going to want to be teachers, but that will never happen. Sold it off in the name of blood money. F’k the local community, we want blood money.

    “Competition as well as geography won’t matter, you can get a teacher from Taiwan for 1/10 the cost and Zoom her into your living room.”

  210. Bystander says:

    “stay locked in my house all day only talking to people through screens.”

    Says the dufus who posted non-stop all day, everyday for years. Pre-pandemic too. The irony is too laughable.

  211. ExEssex says:

    8:27 dO yOu gUyS aCtuaLly wOrk….?

    Hilarious.

  212. ExEssex says:

    I will say that anyone who has a struggling kid isn’t getting much help from their unionized teaching staff. Most are starting to realize how limited their teachers are and uninterested in actually helping anyone (except themselves) and they are having to hire tutors, homework help, and test prep firms if their distance-learning offspring has any chance at all. Guess what? It’d be exactly the same if the kid was sitting in the classroom .

  213. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Remote learning is inferior to in person learning. You know this, there is no doubt about it.

  214. Phoenix says:

    Should be called the new Subaru Descent

    “The new Subaru Ascent 3-Row family hauler is dragging the automaker’s score down.

    The newest SUV makes the Consumer Reports 10 Least Reliable Cars list and lost their recommendation due to reliability issues. CR says the Ascent 3-Row SUV initially had average reliability, but recent transmission problems, sometimes requiring a replacement, have lowered its reliability score.”

  215. ExEssex says:

    12:30 of course

  216. ExEssex says:

    Biden’s popular Vote exceeds 6M over Trump.

    Q is dead.

  217. Phoenix says:

    From a survey. Had to have fun with this one.

    Q. Which of the following will you most trust for advising you to get the vaccine?

    A. President Trump recommends it.

  218. perth amboy knows says:

    Hey fastness – A behind-the-back-talker (you) usually has to deal with his or her own insecurities that stem from something either they missed or was not taught to them during their childhood. It could also be something seriously gone wrong in their upbringing. These aren’t necessarily bad people; oftentimes they are simply misguided and have not learned the basic skills of being able to coexist and socialize properly with other people.

  219. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Maybe the way to play this …go buy up the real estate in the foreign locations they are taking advantage of. Sell when they start getting raises and driving up the real estate.

  220. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hit wash, rinse, and repeat. Easy money.

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