The elusive millennial buyer

From the Record:

Millennials boost numbers of first-time homebuyers

After two years of renting an $1,800-a-month studio apartment in Harlem, Sarah and Micaiah Fitzgerald decided it was time to buy a home.

“We just felt we were throwing money away by renting,” said Sarah Fitzgerald, a 35-year-old psychiatrist. “It became very clear that the way to keep a lot of that money in your pocket was owning your own space.” After just a few weeks of looking, she and her husband, a 44-year-old software engineer, recently bought a three-bedroom house in Teaneck for $380,000.

The Fitzgeralds are among a growing number of first-time buyers venturing into the housing market, as the more than 75 million members of the millennial generation — the most populous in U.S. history —start families and find brighter job prospects than in the years following the recession. East Brunswick appraiser Jeffrey Otteau, who tracks the housing market statewide, has estimated that 325,000 millennial buyers — those born starting in the early 1980s — will enter New Jersey’s housing market over the next decade.

Many young households delayed buying homes after the 2007-09 recession, which sent unemployment skyrocketing to 10 percent. Moreover, the accompanying housing crash dragged down home values, making houses seem like a risky investment.

Other people held off buying homes as they completed their educations and struggled to save for down payments in the face of student debt and high rents. Those delays may be one reason the median age of first-time buyers surveyed this year by the NAR rose to 32, up from 31 in the past five years.

Andrew and Kerribeth McKenna, who now live in Hoboken, love the easy commute to their financial-services jobs in New York City, but their two-bedroom rental is starting to feel a little crowded now that they are parents of a 1-year-old. So they’ve been looking for a house – first in the lake communities of Wayne, and more recently in Ridgewood.

“It’s a matter of space, and the cost of that space” in different places, said Andrew McKenna. “We could get a 1½- or 2-bedroom apartment in Hoboken for the cost of a whole house in Ridgewood.”

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91 Responses to The elusive millennial buyer

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. yome says:

    No lobbyist in Trump’s administration

  3. Grim says:

    Yeah right

  4. grim says:

    Jobless claims – 235,000 – 43 year low

  5. Lost says:

    Yup, as soon as the kids come, they head for the burbs.

    “Andrew and Kerribeth McKenna, who now live in Hoboken, love the easy commute to their financial-services jobs in New York City, but their two-bedroom rental is starting to feel a little crowded now that they are parents of a 1-year-old. So they’ve been looking for a house – first in the lake communities of Wayne, and more recently in Ridgewood.

    “It’s a matter of space, and the cost of that space” in different places, said Andrew McKenna. “We could get a 1½- or 2-bedroom apartment in Hoboken for the cost of a whole house in Ridgewood.””

  6. Lost says:

    Any questions on who will support the nj housing market in the next decade? You sure nj housing market is finished, 3b? Just read this, and understand how large this housing boom will be in the next decade.

    ““We just felt we were throwing money away by renting,” said Sarah Fitzgerald, a 35-year-old psychiatrist. “It became very clear that the way to keep a lot of that money in your pocket was owning your own space.” After just a few weeks of looking, she and her husband, a 44-year-old software engineer, recently bought a three-bedroom house in Teaneck for $380,000.

    The Fitzgeralds are among a growing number of first-time buyers venturing into the housing market, as the more than 75 million members of the millennial generation — the most populous in U.S. history —start families and find brighter job prospects than in the years following the recession. East Brunswick appraiser Jeffrey Otteau, who tracks the housing market statewide, has estimated that 325,000 millennial buyers — those born starting in the early 1980s — will enter New Jersey’s housing market over the next decade.”

  7. Lost says:

    The Great Pumpkin is coming!

    grim says:
    November 17, 2016 at 8:37 am
    Jobless claims – 235,000 – 43 year low

  8. I don’t seem to hear much about Steve Bannon’s background on the news or in print, such as:

    Graduated from Virginia Tech
    US Naval Officer
    Holds a master’s degree in National Security Studies from Georgetown University. M.B.A. degree with honors from Harvard Business School

  9. ^^^^ And he accomplished all of that by 30 years of age. I guess he’s been going to Klan meetings full time since then.

  10. If the MSM wants to say something bad about Bannon, they should point out the obvious. He was an investment banker at Goldman Sachs.

  11. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    According to the left wing press…If you have an old sheet, and moths eat a few holes in them, then you are the granddragonmaster of the KKK.

  12. Pumpkin is so busy looking East to where the money is that he can’t see the poverty washing into Passaic County from the other 3 directions.

  13. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    This place was so much better as pumpkin free zone.

  14. chicagofinance says:

    Goldman – a jew
    Sachs – a jew

  15. I’ll take Pumpkin over flea, but it was a great several weeks when we had neither.

  16. Pumpkin has a low IQ so he doesn’t get depressed and rage-filled. Flea had a high IQ so he was too easy push to where I feared for his safety.

  17. Bannon’s business partner, Brooklyn born Jeff Kwatinetz, is Jewish.

    chicagofinance says:
    November 17, 2016 at 9:23 am
    Goldman – a jew
    Sachs – a jew

  18. Ottoman says:

    You mean the left wing press that gave Trump a billion dollars of free advertising? Or the one that bashed and abandoned Sanders in favor of the corporatist warmonger?

    “According to the left wing press…If you have an old sheet, and moths eat a few holes in them, then you are the granddragonmaster of the KKK.”

  19. 3b says:

    Just some new nj info that may or may not have been noticed. S & P downgraded nj again another notch. We have the lowest credit rating in the country. And we are now dead last when it comes to un/ underfunded pensions. We beat out Kentucky and Illinois for last place. Just saying.

  20. Ottoman says:

    The Nazis found certain Jews useful too.

    November 17, 2016 at 9:58 am
    Bannon’s business partner, Brooklyn born Jeff Kwatinetz, is Jewish.

    chicagofinance says:
    November 17, 2016 at 9:23 am
    Goldman – a jew
    Sachs – a jew

  21. Ottoman says:

    Passaic County has a Trader Joe’s.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    November 17, 2016 at 9:21 am
    Pumpkin is so busy looking East to where the money is that he can’t see the poverty washing into Passaic County from the other 3 directions.

  22. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    According to the left:

    You’re a racist if you found anything wrong with Obama.
    You’re a misogynist if you didn’t vote for Hillary but voted for a third party candidate.
    You’re a friend if you use cigars on interns.
    You’re a social1st (commie) if you supported Bernie.
    You’re a racist, misogynist and xenophobe if you voted for Trump.
    You’re (somehow) a friend of the Jews if you allow Iran to have a nuclear reactor.

    It’s really not surprising that they lost all of their power. And to make matters worse, they did not lose this election due to anything wrong with their platform. They lost because America is racist. Even though America elected and reelected a black man for president in the past decade.

    Pence must be chomping at the bit.

  23. We have 2017 Mazda CX-3 as a loaner from the dealer while they do a recall on our 2002 Tribute. It is small! I think it’s smaller than any AWD vehicle I’ve ever been in. I’m under 6 feet tall and my shoulder is fully behind the B-pillar and my shoulder touches the B-pillar too, so that cuts off some of my peripheral vision. Then there’s the steeply sloped A-pillars taking a lot of front visibility away too. Adding in the short stature of the car, as an urban vehicle it gives me the feeling that there is a lot around me that I’m not seeing. It handles and drives just fine, and the side mirrors are large and easy to use, but it really feels like I’m not getting the full picture of the road. The rear window is so tiny that the entirety of it “fits” easily in the rear-view mirror, I think the rear-view mirror could be 20% smaller and still give you all of the rear vision. Backing up would be about impossible to do safely without the dash camera and the camera makes everything look farther away than it actually is. It also has the tiniest moon roof I’ve ever seen.

  24. D-FENS says:

    Expat, I think that model was designed to attract buyers that may be considering a subaru impreza. My mother is looking for a small safe AWD car….I think I’m going to have her look at the HRV. She doesn’t seem to like the subarus.

  25. D-FENS says:

    Yeah…like George Soros….literally….

    Ottoman says:
    November 17, 2016 at 10:06 am
    The Nazis found certain Jews useful too.

  26. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    The CX-3 and the Mazda 5 are entry level. It’s only 3K more than the subcompact Yaris and Fit and essentially competes with the Juke. It’s the hipster mobile. Real Mazda enthusiasts (which I am slowly becoming) know the 6 the Miata and the CX-5 are where the brand shines. For 20K, I’m figuring out how to raise the 3K cash for the regular 3. The 3(23) and the 6(26) are the Honda Civic and Honda Accord of the Mazda line. The CX-5 is where their SUVs start (my mom just bought one). So far, 40K on both our 6 and our CX-9 without a single maintenance issue. Though there were a couple of same day repair recalls.

  27. D-FENS says:

    I like the mazda 6. Only car left in that segment that you can get a manual transmission too…

  28. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    I just ordered three racks of (non-antibiotic) spare ribs (incredible price) and a brisket from Fresh Direct at truly insane prices with their $50 off of $125 new member deal. We used them before under a different email and was impressed with their prepared meat. Hoping their unprepared is up to snuff. Been getting into smoking my own BBQ since I can’t find anything decent around here. Will let you all know how it is. The current sale on those ribs are incredible. They better be good. The ribs will work out to like $2.75 a pound. The brisket, I’m still paying close to $9 pound after the discount. Captain Cheapo to the rescue.

  29. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    I’m loving my 6 too, but wish the stock stereo did what it’s supposed to do with text messages. The sound is fantastic and the bluetooth audio and phone is great, but the text message downloads don’t work.

  30. Lost says:

    Well, if they made the got damn payments to the pension fund, we wouldn’t be downgraded. Think about why Christie would want our rating lowered. Who is he friends with, what industry does his wife work for? You are telling me that this doesn’t provide a huge incentive to lower our credit rating to profit off it? On top of that, he looks good to his republican boys by putting a stranglehold on our state govt’s budget which they will then claim “services need to be reduced”, so he ends up looking like a republican champion reducing govt.

    All you have to do to improve our credit rating and state finances is to legalize weed, put a 1% tax on our wealthiest residents, and stop giving out corporate welfare. Keep the sales tax at 7% and move on from this. As the economy grows, then you can reduce the sales tax. If a 1% increase forces the wealthy to move out, then let their greedy a$$ leave. 1% is not asking much from people with extreme wealth.

    3b says:
    November 17, 2016 at 10:05 am
    Just some new nj info that may or may not have been noticed. S & P downgraded nj again another notch. We have the lowest credit rating in the country. And we are now dead last when it comes to un/ underfunded pensions. We beat out Kentucky and Illinois for last place. Just saying.

  31. Lib – I’m a Mazda guy, but I missed the CX-3 coming out somehow. I haven’t gotten it out of traffic yet, but it feels like it would be fun on a country road. I’m not sure I could own a modern automatic transmission car that didn’t have paddle shifters or didn’t come from Mazda because Mazda is one of the few car companies that does the manual shift gate correctly (pulling back for upshifts, pushing forward for downshifts), just like every race car that has a sequential tranny.

    D-Fens – I read a couple comparison reviews this morning and I think the HRV is the more practical choice, with much more interior space. The CX-3 with the Bose Stereo only has 10 cubic feet of storage space! (12 without the good stereo). I’ve also heard that the Honda CR-V is the perfect car for people who don’t like cars. My wife and I picked up our older daughter after theatre rehearsal at school yesterday and my wife had to move her seat forward to accommodate my daughter’s legs. She commented that she estimates she could only stand about a half hour in the back seat if our other daughter was there too. While technically you can put 3 people in the back seat, practically you can’t.

  32. Lib – I had the previous 6 (2011) for a 3.5 year lease and wanted to buy the new one, but I was waiting for the twin-turbo Diesel V6 to get to the US. It was supposed to have the torque of a V8 and 40mpg highway. Sadly, VW screwed that up for all of us. I imagine the Japanese head of engine development scolding his engineers for years for not being able to deliver the power without Urea exhaust after-treatment like VW was able to. Now that guy knows why, because VW never did.

    I’m loving my 6 too, but wish the stock stereo did what it’s supposed to do with text messages. The sound is fantastic and the bluetooth audio and phone is great, but the text message downloads don’t work.

  33. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    For the money, you get a ton of bang for the buck with Mazda. Toyota and Honda have been leaning on their reliability to raise prices astronomically. I’ve been hearing great things about Hyundai, but every time I’ve driven one they just feel cheap. From the engine to the seat adjustments to the AC vents.

  34. Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:

    IMHO, this election is a repudiation of identity politics and antiparty thought.

    The democratic/leftist response is to double down.

    Gonna be an interesting four years

  35. This is what I wanted:
    “The 2.2-liter oil burner is quiet, smooth, and loaded for bear with torque to spare. Available in standard (148 hp at 4500 rpm, 280 lb-ft of torque at 2000 rpm) and High Power versions (173 hp at 4500 rpm, 310 lb-ft at 2000 rpm), we drove the latter. A delight with either the six-speed manual or six-speed automatic transmission handling cog-changing duties, the stronger diesel does without the extra hassle of an exhaust after-treatment solution to meet European emissions regulations. Shove is available right off idle, and the diesel pulls strongly to its redline. Only in the quietest moments are strains of clatter or injector tick audible; at speed on the highway, the diesel is indistinguishable from its petrol-swilling sibling.

    According to Mazda, the 2.2-liter’s compression ratio of 14.0:1 is the world’s lowest in a production diesel engine. This enables the adoption of an all-aluminum block, lighter engine components, and optimized combustion timing. We had only a few hours with the engine, but we came away convinced that it could make a run at dethroning VW’s TDI as the mass-market, family-sedan compression-ignition king. Bring it, Mazda.”

    Supposedly, its not dead yet: http://blog.caranddriver.com/diesel-dreams-mazda-still-working-on-diesel-engine-for-the-u-s/

    Above quote from this 2012 article:
    http://blog.caranddriver.com/diesel-dreams-mazda-still-working-on-diesel-engine-for-the-u-s/

  36. Trump will come out as gay and transgender and run as a Democrat if he has to, to win his second term. It doesn’t have to be true.

    IMHO, this election is a repudiation of identity politics and antiparty thought.

    The democratic/leftist response is to double down.

    Gonna be an interesting four years

  37. How is it that shocks and struts don’t seem to wear out anymore? Over time I’ve had my practically my whole front suspension replaced in our 2002 Mazda Tribute but haven’t needed front struts or rear shocks yet. Most recently I heard some knocking going on and figured it was the sway bar end links (I had them replaced 3 times under warranty and probably 3 times since) again, but it wasn’t. Control arm bushings. My mechanic did both sides for $100. That’s why he gets a Target and Dunkin Donuts card from us every Christmas.

  38. D-FENS says:

    Alan Dershowitz: ‘No evidence’ Bannon is anti-Semitic
    Alan Dershowitz, a civil liberties lawyer, says that he has not seen evidence that Breitbart founder Steve Bannon is anti-Semitic.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/alan-dershowitz-no-evidence-bannon-is-anti-semitic-809710147844

  39. Republicans added to their historic 2014 gains in the nation’s state legislatures with the addition of five state House chambers and two state Senate chambers in last week’s election, while Democratic control was reduced to levels not seen since the Civil War.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/after-winning-7-more-seats-gop-dominance-state-legislatures-all

  40. 3b says:

    Anybody going to respond or will all ignore. I have to ignore. I promised Joyce.

  41. Speaking of Mazdas, very few people know that the very successful Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute line of SUVs (really crossovers) were built on the floorpan of the Mazda 626.

  42. Just received a call from Wellesley Mazda, they are waiting on a part that should come in tomorrow, so we get to keep the CX-3 for another day. BTW, for anyone who works on, used to work on cars, or just likes to know more about your car, like when the check engine light goes on: I bought this $7 IOS software called EngineLinkHD that works in conjunction with a $20 Low Energy Bluetooth OBD II module. I can use my iPad to wirelessly run diagnostics, observe and clear codes, watch vital engine metrics on long trips, etc. It’s incredibly convenient.

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/engine-link-hd-obd-ii-vehicle/id621127225?mt=8

  43. D-FENS says:

    I just ignore the check engine light. It’s a lot cheaper.

  44. Lost says:

    I hope this works. I seriously couldn’t be happier with Trump in office, I’ve been wanting this for a long time. My kind of Republican.

    “Into this fussing over details strides Donald Trump. During the campaign, he proposed a tax cut that would cost, according to his own preferred estimate, $4.4 trillion. And to pay for it, his campaign proposed a new kind of analysis, an economic model radically more complex than what either academics or policymakers have tried in the past.

    All aspects of Trump’s plan, including trade and regulatory rollbacks, would be part of the analysis. Together, the campaign argued, they would create enough growth, and therefore enough tax revenue, to offset all but about $200 billion of those tax cuts.

    The real challenge of budgeting is to offer something, but at a discount. In 2017 dynamic scoring will let the Republican majority offer tax cuts without having to offset them entirely with spending cuts. It may even offer infrastructure spending—without having to renege on the promise of tax cuts. If the models are right, they’re right. If they’re wrong, the tax cuts will be a debt-driven Keynesian stimulus.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/how-the-white-house-could-justify-a-debt-driven-keynesian-stimulus

  45. D-FENS says:

    I think this is the beginning of many legal challenges regarding 2A that NJ is in for in the future…

    Stun guns may soon be legal in N.J.

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/ready_for_a_shock_stun_guns_may_soon_be_legal_in_n.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

  46. Grim says:

    I’m happy with my HRV. I feel it is roughly the same usable space as my old X3.

  47. chicagofinance says:

    champing not chomping ….you ignorant Jew

    STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Meaty Cankle fluid. says:
    November 17, 2016 at 10:11 am
    Pence must be chomping at the bit.

  48. Hillary looks like she’s taken to telling hair & makeup to f.uck off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgE_jzIlBY

  49. chicagofinance says:

    Use in a sentence?

    Steve Bannon daydreams about horses champing at the bit while the mounted Waffen SS machine guns Jews over open pits because the cremation ovens were too full.

  50. Juice Box says:

    Protesters Stormed the Building Where Donald Trump’s Transition Team Is Based

    They chanted and held signs demanding Trump fire chief strategist Steve Bannon

    http://time.com/4574951/donald-trump-transition-steve-bannon-protesters/

  51. Juice Box says:

    James Clapper, director of national intelligence, says he’s formally submitted his resignation.

    Guess he didn’t want to hear, “you’re fired!”

  52. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    Champ on Deez Nutz ChiFi!

    Thanks though. Hell of an example too.

    Ex…I’ve seen a couple of Triumphs on the road recently, they looked brand new. I wondered if one was you? I had no idea they were Escapes. Thanks. If I could find a complaint about the 6, it’s that road noise is a problem. When I buy new tires to replace the POS stock ASRs I will definitely look at the noise ratings. I am not alone about noticing the noise. There are entire forums dedicated to mods to help silence the noise. Most of them involve putting the pink stuff behind door panels. Don’t think I’m going there. I fixed the manual door locks on my old Civic multiple times after attempted break-ins and I swear the passenger door was held on by more double-sided tape than by actual clips when I sold it.

  53. chicagofinance says:

    jerry…jerry….jerry lew-is
    the jerry lewis MDA….telethon…..

    STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Meaty Cankle fluid. says:
    November 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm
    Champ on Deez Nutz ChiFi!

  54. Fast Eddie says:

    “We could get a 1½- or 2-bedroom apartment in Hoboken for the cost of a whole house in Ridgewood.”

    Unless you have 20% to put down and then 20% of the sale price in reserve, you’re inexperienced and naïve.

  55. Fast Eddie says:

    Republicans added to their historic 2014 gains in the nation’s state legislatures with the addition of five state House chambers and two state Senate chambers in last week’s election, while Democratic control was reduced to levels not seen since the Civil War.

    Isn’t that beautiful? :)

  56. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    Enjoy it while it lasts Eddie. I have a funny feeling that the press is going to have a bigger field day with Trump than they did with Jimmy Carter. We’ll see. I hope he succeeds, mainly because we need to end the pussification already.

  57. NJGator says:

    Perhaps when your $100k salary is paid for by the citizens of Montklair, this wasn’t the brightest thing to post on your PBA FB page. Folks seem to be a bit upset on the local FB pages…you won’t see it in the comments in the Baristanet article since no one really reads Baristanet since they banned Clot. Linked to their story since they have compiled all the screen prints of posts deleted from the PBA page.

    http://baristanet.com/2016/11/residents-concerned-montclair-pba-local-53-facebook/

  58. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    Hey…he first group that gets it…mostly. Keep attacking Trump and his supporters and you just look like the sore losers that you are.

    “Organizers emphasize that this event will not be explicitly anti-Trump, but will rather serve to support those who he has targeted in his speech and proposed policies. The March aims to make a positive show of love for each other rather than a negative statement of hate.”

    http://baristanet.com/2016/11/montclair-march-community-connection/#comment-418327

  59. Fast Eddie says:

    Steamturd,

    Enjoy it while it lasts Eddie. I have a funny feeling that the press is going to have a bigger field day with Trump than they did with Jimmy Carter.

    The internet is awash in a tsunami of anti-Trump everything. We have two years before the next midterms to do some serious clean-up. It’s all about jobs. Let the media report on the little p.ussies and the dancing clowns in Hollywood. Create jobs!

  60. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Meaty Cankle fluid. says:

    I hope he does. But with a guy whose catch phrase is, “You’re fired!” I have serious doubts he’ll get it done. My guess is that the hardened Repubs will be as stubborn as the remaining Dems when it comes to change.

  61. D-FENS says:

    Don’t be so pessimistic

  62. NJGator says:

    Is the job creation program starting with Ivanka’s company? How many $10k bracelets do they need to sell for each added headcount?

    http://nypost.com/2016/11/15/ivanka-trump-uses-60-minutes-interview-to-hawk-10k-bracelet/

  63. D-FENS says:

    This is hilarious!

    NJGator says:
    November 17, 2016 at 2:08 pm
    Perhaps when your $100k salary is paid for by the citizens of Montklair, this wasn’t the brightest thing to post on your PBA FB page. Folks seem to be a bit upset on the local FB pages…you won’t see it in the comments in the Baristanet article since no one really reads Baristanet since they banned Clot. Linked to their story since they have compiled all the screen prints of posts deleted from the PBA page.

    http://baristanet.com/2016/11/residents-concerned-montclair-pba-local-53-facebook/

  64. Now Spanky, be reasonable says:

    With any luck, Trump will be clever enough to outmaneuver the Repubs-Dems (who are really members of the same party). They have underestimated both Trump and his supporters. But he doesn’t have much time, sooner or later they will catch on and adapt.

  65. Fast Eddie says:

    But with a guy whose catch phrase is, “You’re fired!” I have serious doubts he’ll get it done.

    As opposed to a one-time senator… an angry, narcissistic, transformational fundamentalist/activist who never showed up and had not a friend on the hill while fanning the flames of racial division vs. a catch phrase – a divider who was awarded a Nobel Peace prize who has yet to denounce the criminal activity in the guise of protests nor asked for calm.

  66. D-FENS says:

    Apple could make iPhones in US in future: sources

    http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/AC/Apple-could-make-iPhones-in-US-in-future-sources

    STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Meaty Cankle fluid. says:
    November 17, 2016 at 2:36 pm
    I hope he does. But with a guy whose catch phrase is, “You’re fired!” I have serious doubts he’ll get it done. My guess is that the hardened Repubs will be as stubborn as the remaining Dems when it comes to change.

  67. D-FENS says:

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/13/news/companies/ford-truck-mexico-ohio/index.html

    Ford’s heavy duty pickup trucks which used to be built in Mexico started rolling off an assembly line in Ohio this week.
    That’s good news for the 1,000 Ford workers in Ohio, who might have otherwise been out of work.
    It’s also good publicity for Ford (F), which has been under fire for investing so much in Mexico. In April, the automaker said it would invest $2.5 billion in transmission plants in the Mexican states of Chihuahua and Guanajuato, creating about 3,800 jobs there.
    Ford’s south-of-the-border strategy has drawn heavy criticism from groups such as the United Auto Workers union and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.
    The Avon Lake, Ohio, plant produced its first batch of Ford’s full-size F-650 and F-750 pick up trucks on Wednesday.

  68. Now Spanky, be reasonable says:

    See? Trump is working miracles already! Not only is he creating jobs for professional protestors/rioters/agitators, but his election alone has brought Ford jobs and now possibly Apple jobs back to the US! If only he could get Nabisco to start making Oreos in the US again…

  69. Tywin says:

    “227K residents moved out of N.J. last year — and 62K immigrants moved in”

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/227k_people_moved_out_of_nj_last_year_and_62k_immigrants_moved_in.html

  70. walking bye says:

    Since we are discussing cars, even Honda is discounting as no one is buying cars. A friend of mine recently purchased a 2017 Accord e-xl, 6 cylinder. MSRP Just under 34k, around 33.7 if I recall. Final price excluding tax including fees was 28k. Best part of the deal, after going back and forth for 6 hours, and the final contract written up, he wants winter floor mats included, and the sales rep said no I can’t do it. So he picked up the sales rep pen and wrote it in himself on the sales sheet. Sure you can see.

  71. Juice Box says:

    Eddie – After 324 rounds of golf and nearly 500 political fundraisers President Obama now says:

    ‘ The president elect is going to see fairly quickly that demands & responsibilities of a US president are not ones you can treat casually’

    This is the same President who also had enough time to watch enough college basketball to fill out his NCAA tourney brackets, have a press-conference covering it, and discuss the merits of the various teams and post it to the WhiteHouse Website.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/03/15/see-president-obamas-2016-ncaa-basketball-tournament-brackets

  72. Essex says:

    Jews are the bedrock of culture and society. L’chaim !

  73. Lib – I was afraid of that, it’s those damn 19″ rims. The smaller the sidewall the stiffer it has to be. For a sedan the size of the 6 my preference is 17″ rims, but they don’t give you that choice any more. These ultra-low profile tires are for kids, you’re always going to give up ride and noise in exchange for “looks” and fractionally better steering response. The “springiness” of the sidewall actually adds to the spring rate of the suspension and manufacturers have gone way overboard with rim diameter these days and the stiff, tiny, sidewalls that go with them. Add in the eventual curb rash and/or dents and I have no interest in wheel/tire combinations like that, especially for the city. My 2011 6 was actually very good on noise with both the 17″ OEM Michelins and the 16″ Michelin X-Ice Winter tires. I had no interest in the s Grand Touring because of the 18″ wheels so I was disappointed when they bumped the new 6 up to 19″ rims.

    If I could find a complaint about the 6, it’s that road noise is a problem. When I buy new tires to replace the POS stock ASRs I will definitely look at the noise ratings. I am not alone about noticing the noise. There are entire forums dedicated to mods to help silence the noise. Most of them involve putting the pink stuff behind door panels.

  74. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    I liked the Mazda 5 mini-(micro-) van — It’s more like a station wagon with a slightly higher roof and sliding rear doors. The third row basically swaps between seats and cargo space (there is a little space behind the third row, but not so much that you could put 6 bodies and all their luggage for a long road trip). It would have been perfect for me except my ski slope of a driveway really does require I buy something with AWD. Mazda spiked it last year anyway.

    In the 90’s an SUV could be had for $15k. Then they became “popular” and prices shot up. Back then I recognized that the modern SUV is in most respects a suburban station wagon. After the popularity switch, you could have a station wagon for $18k, while the same space in an SUV was getting $25k. I looked at station wagons at the time, including the Mazda 6 wagon in the last year they made it. I could have got a sweet deal on one. I spent more to make my SUV-wanting spouse happy (got a CR-V, which is more a crossover than SUV, but it has the AWD and high ride she wanted). She’s still driving it and its the last new car I’m likely to buy her… I hope she likes it.

    As much as I like the Subaru Legacy GT with stick, I don’t think I’d buy another stick. There are so few made and sold in America. You have to buy what the manufacturer is good at making. Maybe if I bought a Hyundai or Kia model that is sold everywhere else with a stick, but they had to mate an auto slush box to it to make it marketable in the US, I’d consider the stick. But there again, its because the manufacturer is good at making them, just not mainly for the US market.

    I do hear good things about the Mazda CX-9 from a friend who jumped from a CR-V into one.

    Ex-pat’s piece on the Mazda diesel peaked my interest for aero applications: If they can make a 2.2L diesel with an aluminum block, that would have real implications for prop-powered aircraft; mostly because if wouldn’t need the current aviation standard 100 octane low-lead fuel. Its the last application of a leaded fuel just about anywhere in the world. They can’t put the lead in the pipelines, its added to unleaded 96 octane fuel at the distribution terminal by the truckload. There is only one manufacturer of the Tetraethyllead additive remaining in the world. In addition to that supply risk, the treehuggers are constantly beating on general aviation over the lead in the fuel. On the other hand, diesel cycle engines can burn jet fuel (Jet A — kerosene) all day long. If the fleet can move to kero-burning engines, then airports don’t have to stock two parallel fuel supplies – 100LL for the prop planes and JetA for the biz jets. Diesel engines haven’t been making real inroads into this market space because they’ve been too heavy per HP compared to the equivalent air-cooled, horizontally opposed, direct drive piston engine. Aluminum block changes all that.

  75. Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

    The CX-9 is truly a great car. Mainly because it drives like a dream and has a usable 3rd row with plenty of space for a stroller and a few bags. No blind spots either. You have to move up to the Arcadia or Pilot for more space.

  76. I love the CX-9. Unfortunately, my wife’s average trip is 1-2 miles round trip with 0.5 passengers. She gets 11mpg in a 2002 that should get 18 city and I’m always able to get 22-24mpg highway heavily loaded. I think a hybrid would be perfect for her, but grim assures me there is no free lunch. Come January 1st we’ll still be in Boston, but living in a more suburban setting. We’ll see what comes of that with car choices.

  77. Yesterday I went on and on about my feeling that the Mazda CX-3 has too much A-Pillar and B-Pillar blocking your panaoramic view. Today I noticed another thing that adds to the encroachment. The large side mirrors, especially the one on the driver’s side, is not only large, but really, really, close to your face, right at eye-level, so it blocks even more of your view at 45 degrees to your right. I feel like I could drive this car very confidently on a race track lap after lap because anything in front of me would appear organically only possibly blocked by one A-pillar temporarily. Anything approaching from behind would easily be taken in by the rearview and sideview mirrors. In real life I think there is a lot of hazard from not picking up cross-traffic soon enough.

  78. Is Megyn Kelly’s new book really called , Settle for Whore?

  79. Fabius Maximus says:

    “I have a funny feeling that the press is going to have a bigger field day with Trump than they did with Jimmy Carter.”

    Not like they’ll have to make anything up.
    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/17/trump-just-caught-video-promising-rich-buddies-tax-cuts/

  80. Fabius Maximus says:

    Doesn’t he realize, that’s what the State Department is for.
    http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/63556

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