Get with the times NJ

From CNBC:

Backyard bungalows are becoming big business for homeowners and builders

They’re not just she-sheds or he-sheds or granny pods or tiny homes. The latest housing trend in the backyard is now front and center for a new breed of homebuilder and landlord.

Second homes, formally called auxiliary dwelling units (ADUs), are cropping up in back and side yards across America, acting as either rental units or additional space for aging parents and still-nested adult children.

Growth in the sector has been fueled by changes to local and state zoning rules. Some municipalities are struggling with a lack of affordable housing and see these additional units as one remedy.

In 2010 Portland, Oregon, waived impact fees for ADUs, making them significantly less expensive. As a result, the number of ADU permits jumped from 86 in 2010 to 660 in 2018, according to a count by accessorydwellings.org.

In California, when a 2017 state law forced cities to relax ADU regulations, permits jumped even more dramatically.

And that all translates into big growth for ADU builders, like Prefab ADU, based in the California Bay Area. It built and installed about 100 ADUs this year but expects to expand that to at least 1,500 next year.

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89 Responses to Get with the times NJ

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. grim says:

    What’s interesting here is that this represents another form of “acceptable” in-fill development that didn’t really exist before. It’s not about tear down multifamily – this is much less invasive a form of increasing population density.

    In addition, zeitgeist – I suspect this would be more socially acceptable than large corporate owned multi-family. Lower-cost housing – more distributed income – increasing diversity – increased ratables.

    It’s not totally foreign. There are tons of shore rental back bungalows in NJ. As well, a friend when I was growing up had a big house in Montclair w/ a carriage house apartment that was killer. They didn’t rent it at the time, but I’m sure you could get a pretty penny for it today.

  3. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Blue Laws are secular in nature. It’s a mystery as to why they are so supported in Bergen County. When I lived there, it was a big pain. Everything had to get done on Saturday. Part of the reason everyone is in an insane rush there. They would always go “but I like being able to drive places on Sunday”. Where the heck are you driving? Everything is closed.

  4. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Talked to a friend the other day. He’s about to clear a million dollars at age 40 by hustling flea markets and garage sales and flipping things on Amazon. Recenetly, Amazon employees keep labeling his video games as “possible explosives” and when he complains, even though they “rectified the situation”, they leave a strike on his account for 90 days. They said it could be removed for a $5000 membership or something like that. Largest company in the world is a two bit mafia shake down artist.

  5. Fast Eddie says:

    I’m okay with the blue laws. It’s such a pleasure to get around on a Sunday, especially if it’s a really nice day in the fall. It’s a piece of Sunday nostalgia for me, an old school feel. If I want to shop, Passaic and Rockland counties are available.

  6. Ottoman says:

    Y’all continue to waste your useless lives reacting to pumpkin day after day, year after year…But he’s the fool.

    leftwing says:
    October 22, 2019 at 7:53 am
    Yeah, see y’all some time next week.

    I can’t deal with this fool any longer.

    Can’t we ban him? Hasn’t he violated something, somewhere?

  7. Ottoman says:

    Amazon’s got a verified body count. Welcome to capitalism.

    “Largest company in the world is a two bit mafia shake down artist.”

  8. Ottoman says:

    Well, you’ve served no purpose on this earth so far, so riding aimlessly around the trash heap that is Bergen County seems right up your alley.

    Fast Eddie says:
    October 22, 2019 at 8:40 am
    I’m okay with the blue laws. It’s such a pleasure to get around on a Sunday, especially if it’s a really nice day in the fall. It’s a piece of Sunday nostalgia for me, an old school feel. If I want to shop, Passaic and Rockland counties are available.

  9. Fast Eddie says:

    Ottoman,

    I’m a beautiful area. I really enjoy it and Sundays are like being in the country. It’s so nice being away from the riff-raff and malcontents.

  10. ExEssex says:

    Some might say NJ is nothing but riff raff and malcontents.

  11. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Blue,

    A few weeks ago, or even last month I posted about this. I said there are limitless opportunities to make money buying and flipping products on ebay/facebook marketplace platforms that didn’t exist before. Yes, I was laughed at, and called an idiot for posting that.

    Such a joke. What do I expect, human nature. Haters are going to hate.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    October 22, 2019 at 8:23 am
    Talked to a friend the other day. He’s about to clear a million dollars at age 40 by hustling flea markets and garage sales and flipping things on Amazon. Recenetly, Amazon employees keep labeling his video games as “possible explosives” and when he complains, even though they “rectified the situation”, they leave a strike on his account for 90 days. They said it could be removed for a $5000 membership or something like that. Largest company in the world is a two bit mafia shake down artist.

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ahh, we are learning. Whether the govt exists or not, someone will shake you down. The public sector shakedown is much more forgiving than the private sector shake down. Facts.

    “Largest company in the world is a two bit mafia shake down artist.”

  13. ExEssex says:

    9:55 I’ve been active on eBay since 1999.
    It’s traffic is way down, its fees are up, it’s best days
    Are behind it. A lot like NJ.

  14. ExEssex says:

    10 AM
    pumpkin hands out worksheets to his class…

  15. QuietPumpkin says:

    Well, this is how American Dream plans to make money.

    From Bergen Record,

    American Dream has announced its parking rates — four days before the shopping and entertainment center opens its first phase after more than 15 years in the making.
    Here are the rates:
    Up to 30 minutes: Free.
    Up to three hours: $3.
    Up to five hours: $4.
    Up to seven hours: $5.
    Up to eight hours: $6.
    More than eight hours is a $24 maximum for all-day parking.
    American Dream’s parking lots are separate from lots at neighboring MetLife Stadium, said Nathan Kovach, a spokesman for American Dream, but the stadium lots will serve as overflow parking when no events are planned at the stadium and American Dream lots are full.

  16. jmw977 says:

    Grim 6:44

    I lived in a carriage house rental for a few years on Piaget Ave in Clifton, across from the library and middle school.

    The place had been in the landlord’s family for 3 generations. He said the back house was a speakeasy during prohibition. He renovated it during the 80s as a rental, said the original bar was there prior to his reno.

    Awesome little place, and the price was right. Who knew??

  17. leftwing says:

    “Y’all continue to waste your useless lives reacting to pumpkin day after day, year after year…But he’s the fool.”

    You are absolutely correct.

    I stopped responding directly to him two or three years ago…I used to have a ‘Pumpkin-free day’ counter at the bottom of my posts lol. I hopped in a few times during that period but that was it…

    IIRC I took a close to two year hiatus from here after the market collapse because the negativity was so high it was affecting my daily outlook.

    Going to take a short break again….even without responding to the fool he’s impossible to ignore…like a noisy seagull at the shore screeching overhead…makes it difficult to enjoy everything else that is pleasant. Otto is right, for your own benefit stop tossing him bread, and let him go away and foul somewhere else up with his noise and endless sh1t…

    Anyway…

    Lib, I may very well be in a rink while you are there sometime before the holidays, I have a good friend with a player in your division and will be hitting a game with him to watch his boy. If so, I’ll look for you and introduce myself.

    Chi…this is the year for the Red. Theirs to lose. Boys and Schafer have to step up and finally close…Another boy whose family I know is on the team so I’m inclined again to hit a game or two, likely Harvard. I’ll pop in here and let you know if that happens.

    Grim, I’ve tried to get a few people out to SC, tough location for us to rally. We do have a favorite Newark hangout, going to continue to try to hit your place with a friend or two from there maybe. Keep strong, looks great, good luck.

    Anyone else, I hang out around a couple reddit investing subs as ‘ndlsmmr’ if you want to talk stocks or reach out for any reason.

    Cheers all.

  18. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    There aren’t limitless opportunities. You try to get into his market anywhere from Middlesex to Burlington County. You won’t. All the vendors save their stuff for him and unload it to him weekly. You also need a warehouse or storage space. He owns a 5 bedroom house and it’s arranged like a gigantic library.

    I used to sell off of ebay too. We used to clean out Victoria’s Secret Beauty products when they went on sale. We would wait for them to be discontinued and then flip them for a 500% profit.

    1. You couldn’t scale up this model. There are only a handful of stores you could get to.
    2. You couldn’t show up at each store the instant they opened
    3. Ebay eventually banned my wife and my sister in law’s account because we didn’t have an official store

    We stopped doing it once someone else moved in and had an army of people showing up at each store the second they opened. The market competition is cutthroat.

    I used to flip Patriot’s merchandise as well. For some reason, the Kohl’s in Deal used to have a gigantic amount of Patriots, Jerseys, Sweatshirts. I think it was an ordering error that got embedded into their system. We would buy it all($4000 worth) at 90% off and flip it for a 300% profit on ebay.

    This isn’t an easy thing to do. And these days, Amazon and Ebay are content to just ban you from selling because you aren’t one of the big boys.

  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Sure. I wouldn’t have a job if that’s the case. Kids must always be on task. It’s tough, you have to create lessons that are student driven. You are not allowed to sit there and lecture all period. You will be fired. Wait, let me clear that up, they will make your life a living hell till you quit. No one gets fired, they are forced to resign.

    My co-worker that works in the VP office for a period overheard him talking to a student in his office. Said I was the best teacher on this floor (9th grade level). You guys just don’t get it, I’m talented, I don’t waste time.

    ExEssex says:
    October 22, 2019 at 10:04 am
    10 AM
    pumpkin hands out worksheets to his class…

  20. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They forced out so many people here in my 15 years, that I’m one of the senior teachers at 39. Pretty sad.

    Yes, so many people leave this field on a yearly basis that I’m one of the oldest people here. Pathetic.

  21. abeiz says:

    Pumps,
    I think you’re a piece of sh1t and a detriment to this blog. And the rest of you get sucked into this by feeding this attention wh@re.

    I surmise your donations keep your posting privileges active, but your stream of consciousness is untenable.

    I tried to make this part of my morning routine again, but it’s a much smaller circle jerk at this point with this clown firmly entrenched here.

  22. D-FENS says:

    More good news for NJ

    https://taxfoundation.org/2020-state-business-tax-climate-index/

    The 10 lowest-ranked, or worst, states in this year’s Index are:

    Louisiana
    Iowa
    Maryland
    Vermont
    Minnesota
    Arkansas
    Connecticut
    California
    New York
    New Jersey
    The states in the bottom 10 tend to have a number of afflictions in common: complex, nonneutral taxes with comparatively high rates. New Jersey, for example, is hampered by some of the highest property tax burdens in the country, has the second highest-rate corporate income tax in the country and a particularly aggressive treatment of international income, levies an inheritance tax, and maintains some of the nation’s worst-structured individual income taxes.

  23. D-FENS says:

    NJ ranks #50….the worst in the nation.

  24. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You guys are getting old and triggered. It’s amazing that someone can get under your skin like this.

    Lighten up and laugh, instead of getting so damn angry.

  25. Walking bye says:

    blue laws are the best. I usually go in on Sundays to catch up on work and love being able to drive from Hillsdale to HACKENSACK and not get stuck sitting in the mall traffic for 30 minutes. It really is worth keeping. Want to go to a reateraunt – no traffic, ever thought about going into a Walmart? Sunday in bergen county is your day to explore this alternate lifestyle. Hate going to the movies because it’s tougher than driving 5th ave in December, Sunday is your day to pull up take in a movie in paramus.

  26. grim says:

    NJ hates change.

    Blue laws, pumping gas, same nonsense.

    Either it’s motivated by a strong desire for status quo, it’s motivated by corruption, or it’s motivated by protectionism.

  27. Walking bye says:

    Blue law rule #1 never start a home improvement project on a sunday. Driving back and forth to Home Depot in Paterson and Passaic will eat up your day as you curse yourself for buying the box that looked new but in reality was reshelved and missing half the parts.

  28. Walking bye says:

    Grim -go into the Teterboro Costco on a Sunday at 1pm pre holidays and you will become a believer. It is protectionism at its best. Protecting us from New Yorkers.

  29. ExEssex says:

    1:45 you have a point.

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Here’s the truth. I participate on this blog to talk about things the avg person doesn’t care about. I mean who likes talking about economics, real estate, and politics? I love it, but avg person doesn’t want to hear it. I don’t want to bother family or friends (people i really care about) talking about this stuff that serves no interest to them.

    Some people like an echo chamber, they don’t want to hear from other people. When you call an individual “stupid” or an “idiot” for posting their thoughts, you are screaming “echo chamber.” You don’t want to hear anything that goes against your school of thought or philosophy.

    “New Jersey Real Estate ReportReal Estate, Economics, and Politics”

    That’s the blogs main objective…just an fyi

  31. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Like a f’en baby, I can’t post or enjoy a blog because someone posts information that pisses me off. Lighten up for god’s sake.

    Here’s a little tip: you shouldn’t take life so seriously, you are never going to make it out alive.

  32. abeiz says:

    The quantity of your post severely detracts from others’ enjoyment of this blog. Only a self absorbed d1ck like you would refuse to acknowledge this after it’s been brought to your attention numerous times. I have have to scroll through pages of your garbage to get others’ opinions, or to follow even simple exchanges because you thread crap three, four six messages in between then.

    This is not an issue of an echo chamber, rather is it one of societal tact. Your opinions as those of others are welcomed, but your hijacking of this blog as your stream of consciousness posting every twelve minutes is frankly disgusting behavior for an adult.

    This forum is not your your personal diary ty kretynie jebany.

  33. No One says:

    Keep in mind, blue laws essentially put a gun to someone’s head and tell them they will be put in jail for for conducting commerce legal every other day that wasn’t historically frowned upon by one religion.
    It’s a rights violation inspired by religion.
    Let’s change the law and make it illegal for Bergen county residents to drive or operate any machinery on Saturday, also.

  34. Libturd says:

    Been busy for a couple of days and just caught up.

    Left, what team does your buddies kid play for? Looking forward to catching up. Just be careful. Look what happened to the last blog friend I hung with.

    Gary, re blue laws. I love them too. It’s impossible to go up route 17, down route 4, etc., every other day of the week. Do we have to shop every friggin’ day? If I need parts, it’s the L0wes in Paterson. Best one around. Plus the lower tax.

    Everyone else – I do not look at Pump’s posts anymore. It’s that simple. Just skip over them. It’s that easy. Trust me. He’s a compulsive liar, so you are wasting your time with anything he has to say. I’d have D-Fens and Otto over for dinner long before I will ever entertain another Pumps post.

    Can’t wait for Xanadon’t to open and route 3 between 21 and the Turnpike Lincoln Tunnel extension to be a 90-minute delay from 3-9pm. All of the buses are going to be fukced. Allwood Avenue is going to be a parking lot too. I would expect Route 7 to be the best route in a few more weeks even with the 1/9 north delay to get up to the Lincoln from 495. Just wait until there is a football game. The entire area is going to implode.

    On the economy, earnings have been coming in and they are terribly sh1tty. Too many companies aren’t even hitting their reduced numbers. Recession is on. Now just a matter of time before it effects the consumer. Sadly, the news won’t hype it until later in the earnings season and that’s pretty much the middle of November, right before holiday spending season. The impeachment proceedings are picking up steam, which won’t help nor will Trump’s dumb tweets. Even the typical bait takers on the blue team are finally seeing them for what they are. Propaganda.

    On Bloomber’s opinion of taxing the wealthy? Why don’t we ask Bill Gates what his opinion of Windows 10 is. Come on now. Yes, there’s not enough dough to level the playing field, nor is that the intent. But when executive pay goes from 10 times the average to 100 times the average, then something must be done if they won’t do it for themselves. And if you thought the hillbillies went crazy over draining the swamp? Just wait until you see how the debt-rich millennials go crazy about balancing the Wall Street/executive playing field.

    Lots of time left before the nomination is made, but I expect the class who this tax effects to circle the wagons and start their own propaganda campaign in a major way. Especially as we get closer to the Dem convention. Can’t wait to hear the BS.

  35. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I’m talented, I don’t waste time.

    haha

  36. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Everyone always talks about driving up Rt 4 and Rt 17. Why does that mean we have to deprive Bergenfield, Tenafly and Teaneck main street businesses from being able to open? The current Blue Laws are archaic and should at the very least, be modified.

  37. ExEssex says:

    I’m pretty sure Pumpy is just bored.
    He has no grownups around him all day.
    Toss in some low-level depression, a little narcissism —
    Teachers lounge?

  38. 3b says:

    Paramus voted about 20 years ago to lift the blue laws and residents voted overwhelmingly to keep them. I don’t suspect the results would be any different now.

  39. chicagofinance says:

    I had to take my kids up to Oradell on Columbus Day. We weren’t even driving on the GSP during rush hours. The whole area around Paramus is stunningly dense and suffocating. It is the worst of all worlds. Crowded like a city, but you cannot get anywhere on foot.

    BTW – check out Costco in Wall on Sundays, or the Freehold Raceway Mall on Saturday night post Shabbos…….

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    October 22, 2019 at 5:45 pm
    Everyone always talks about driving up Rt 4 and Rt 17. Why does that mean we have to deprive Bergenfield, Tenafly and Teaneck main street businesses from being able to open? The current Blue Laws are archaic and should at the very least, be modified.

  40. chicagofinance says:

    Did you see Elizabeth Warren make a cameo at the picket lines in Chicago’s teacher’s strike? Unbelievable…..

  41. 1987 condo says:

    Earning seem to be ok so far….

    Of the companies to report, 43% have beaten analyst expectations for both revenue and earnings, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch analysts. The figure lands slightly above the second-quarter average of 41% and the year-ago average of 40%.

    https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/earnings-season-recap-analysis-misses-being-punished-baml-finds-2019-10-1028616229

  42. ExEssex says:

    But Olivia Jade is a great advertisement for birth control….

    Online social media influencers, who are seen as a valuable asset to digital marketers, are seeing their power wane, the Wall Street Journal reports.

    Why it matters: The obscurity around measurement and authenticity in the influencer space has led to a decline in trust between marketers and influencers.

    Yes, but: “Despite questions about declining influence, the money paid influencers keeps climbing — roughly 50% a year since 2017,” per WSJ.

    What’s next: The Federal Trade Commission, which has been evaluating social media influencers for years, has settled its first complaint over the sale of “fake followers, subscribers, views, and likes,” signaling that more oversight could be coming to the industry.

  43. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    Condo,

    Wall Street has lowered expectations to the point that it’s nearly impossible to miss. Compare year over year or TTM. You’ll see that the effects of Trumpmas have completely worn off.

  44. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls. says:

    Pick a company that reported. I’ll give you the prediction at the start of the year vs. now.

  45. 3b says:

    Chgo Paramus is overwhelming the traffic awful and even with all the rateables property taxes in my opinion are still high. There is zero character to the town and its suburban sprawl at its worst.

  46. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I haven’t had a reason to go to Freehold Raceway Mall since Roli Boli closed. But no worry, I cloned all their recipes.

  47. ExEssex says:

    Below is the data that came out from the Retirement Planner user analysis.

    Retirement Readiness By Region & Generation

    Delaware is the #1 most prepared state for retirement with the highest average amount of savings to date at $286,277.
    Connecticut is the #2 most prepared ($279,367 is the average amount saved).
    New Jersey is the #3 most prepared ($272,918 is the average amount saved).
    California falls behind with only $227,290 saved, landing in the #20 spot overall.
    East Coasters are the most interested in paying for their education goals: New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York rank as the top 3 savers for education expenses.
    Average savings for a 4-year education by New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York are $199,039, compared to California at #5 with an average of $174,684.
    Baby Boomers have an average of $554,805 saved for retirement. This is 125% more than Gen X ($246,924) and over 700% more than Millennials ($68,971).

  48. ExEssex says:

    Millennial Specific Data On Retirement Readiness

    Everything we’ve read so far seems to make sense. The older East Coast is the richest region in America, while older generations have more saved up for retirement. Let’s now focus on the Millennial-specific data to see where things go askew.

    Home Purchase Spending: Millennials expect to spend just $142,274 on a home purchase compared to $686,739 inputted by Gen Xers.
    Vacation Spending: Millennials expect to spend $325,357 on vacations by retirement.
    Number Of Working Years: Millennials expect to work 15 years on average and retire (hmm)
    Retirement Savings: Millennials plan to save $445,687 after 15 years of work
    Inheritance: This is the biggest mystery of all. Continue reading to find the answer.
    It’s clear Millennials are seriously divorced from reality! Sure, it’s natural to input more aspirational figures in any retirement plan, but a whole lot of people will be disappointed.

  49. Juice Box says:

    The blue laws in Bergen County have been on the referendum vote many times and voted down by the people that live there they just don’t want the traffic.It’s also been challenged in court a few times and lost every time including people who said they can only shop on Sunday because of religious reasonsz

  50. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    While I disagree with voting whether businesses should be forced to close on a constitutional level, there is no reason it has to be a county wide thing. Why not make it a municipal policy? As I said..wtf should Paramus care about Main St. in Teaneck being closed?

  51. joyce says:

    Not a fan of the blue laws… to play devil’s advocate:
    I believe the argument would be big businesses/chains can afford to be open 7 days a week and longer hours. So without the law, smaller companies wouldn’t have the option to close because they’d ultimately lose business and close. Making the ban county wide makes it harder to circumvent than town by town.

  52. Juice Box says:

    re: make it a municipal policy.

    It’s is in Paramus, you cannot open your law office either. No professional office buildings are allowed to operate on Sunday.

    Paramus’ Blue Law ordinance, Ordinance No. 562, since 1968, has provided that “[n]o worldly employment or business, except works of necessity and charity, shall be employed or practiced by any person within the Borough of Paramus on the first day of the week, commonly called * * * Sunday.”

    Note again on Repeal. The PEOPLE in Bergen country don’t want Sunday shopping. It was on the ballot in 1980 and 1993 and was voted down. Last time they tried to repeal it in 2013 they could not get enough signatures to get it on the ballot again.

    There are loads and loads of court cases they all lost.

    Anecdotal, no mall or shops that I have ever heard of closed in Paramus because they could not sell on Sunday. Maybe downtown Bergenfield but not in Paramus.

  53. rardsothe says:

    hi :) bross :)

  54. joyce says:

    JB,
    Not sure if your anecdotal comment was in response to my post, but to confirm my comment was the argument I’ve heard if there were no blue laws in place.

  55. Juice Box says:

    Joyce on a similar vein of small business support my point is home rule sometimes has a benefit to the PEOPLE not the corporations, lobbyists and their lawyers.

  56. 3b says:

    My town has modified blue laws. A few years ago they allowed a Service star hardware store to open on Sundays from 9 to 1.

  57. Fast Eddie says:

    The hardware store in Waldwick is open as well. They’re exempt because they’re classified as providing necessities.

    I hope the blue laws stay forever. The quiet pace is really nice.

  58. Fast Eddie says:

    Or, is that Midland Park? Ho Ho Kus? It’s by the Hermitage.

  59. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    It’s is in Paramus, you cannot open your law office either. No professional office buildings are allowed to operate on Sunday.

    Paramus’ Blue Law ordinance, Ordinance No. 562, since 1968, has provided that “[n]o worldly employment or business, except works of necessity and charity, shall be employed or practiced by any person within the Borough of Paramus on the first day of the week, commonly called * * * Sunday.”

    Note again on Repeal. The PEOPLE in Bergen country don’t want Sunday shopping. It was on the ballot in 1980 and 1993 and was voted down. Last time they tried to repeal it in 2013 they could not get enough signatures to get it on the ballot again.

    There are loads and loads of court cases they all lost.

    Anecdotal, no mall or shops that I have ever heard of closed in Paramus because they could not sell on Sunday. Maybe downtown Bergenfield but not in Paramus.

    The people of Bergen County are not a homogenous population. When I lived in Bergenfield, the sentiment was to get rid of them in the 90s in town. I’m sure Paramus overwhelmingly voted them down. Bergenfield, I’m sure it was the opposite. It shouldn’t be a county thing…it shouldn’t even be a town thing…but I’d take the lesser of two evils.

    I know the history of the court decisions. They all ignore the basic properties of liberty. Local politics is corrupt, as are those decisions.

  60. chicagofinance says:

    Don’t try to speak logic to the Oracle of Snark.

    Juice Box says:
    October 23, 2019 at 10:46 am
    Joyce on a similar vein of small business support my point is home rule sometimes has a benefit to the PEOPLE not the corporations, lobbyists and their lawyers.

    As if she is capable of any other way of responding……
    joyce says:
    October 23, 2019 at 9:56 am
    Not a fan of the blue laws… to play devil’s advocate:

  61. Juice Box says:

    Blue – Last time it was voted on and was turned down, it pulled a majority in sixty-six of sixty-nine Bergen towns, so there goes your point out the window.

    I no longer live there, but I do understand why people want their “liberty” and “freedom” to pretend one day a week it’s 1776 and to not have the noise, congestion and pollution with all that vehicular traffic even though our economic order demands we purchase goods or services in ever greater supersize amounts.

  62. Juice Box says:

    re: Don’t try to speak logic. Ok Nevermore.

    Try this one one for size in real estate terms.

    I am going to buy a $1,000,000 house in super busy shopping mecca Paramus New Jersey because the price has recently been reduced, and I really cannot afford it so I am going to do it just because the bank will lend me the money.

    “First time on the market. Must See!!! Spectacular Custom Built European Style Home. It has all you could ask for, move right into this bright lovely home. Walk into gorgeous Double entry Foyer with staircase. Spacious Formal Living Room and Dining room with high ceilings. Family room w/ fire place with sliding glass door to deck. Br w/ Full Bath. Kitchen has custom cabinets, granite counter tops, upgraded appliances, w/ entrance to deck. Xl Master BR with his/her walk-in closets, MBATh w Jacuzzi. Full bath and 3 over-sized add’l Br’s each w/ balcony. 3 car garage, attic, partially finished basement w fireplace. The list goes on and on. Close to everything you will need, great schools, shopping, NYC transportation, etc. Bring your buyers- they will love it!”

    Paramus property taxes. $19,058…..

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/380-Valley-View-Ave-Paramus-NJ-07652/64720742_zpid/

  63. Libturd, seen crazy things done with ping pong balls says:

    “the Oracle of Snark”

    Joyce. You may need to change your screen name.

  64. Fast Eddie says:

    …but I do understand why people want their “liberty” and “freedom” to pretend one day a week it’s 1776…

    That’s pretty much how I feel. There’s nothing better on a Sunday morning than to bike ride past a stream and watch someone fish or ride past an old stone church built around the time this country was born. This is why I moved here… a feeling of being around those I want to be around and those that share the same ideology. I earned it. I ate enough sh1t and paid my dues. Do I sound like a d1ck and a d0uche? Aww… cry me a river. Yeah, I’m becoming arrogant and I really don’t give a f.uck what anyone thinks.

  65. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Blue – Last time it was voted on and was turned down, it pulled a majority in sixty-six of sixty-nine Bergen towns, so there goes your point out the window.

    Actually, it reaffrims my point. The 66 towns can vote it down and the 3 towns can be free to operate as they see fit

  66. joyce says:

    Unless several words of the english language have changed recently, pretty sure Juice Box and I were in agreement.

    And I hate to break it to you before the nypost does… but you’ll have to go else where for your next session:
    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/estheticians-dont-have-to-wax-male-gen!talia-against-their-will-bc-tribunal-rules/ar-AAJb9Mw

    chicagofinance says:
    October 23, 2019 at 12:03 pm

  67. Juice Box says:

    Blue – You are drowning here. If the voters of those three towns want to open stores on Sunday then they have out of Bergen County rule of law and there is a process for that too, until they succeed from the county they have to accept the majority rule.

    Now don’t go all sovereign citizen here.

  68. joyce says:

    I don’t think you sound like a d1ck or d0uche at all. I think you sound like someone who doesn’t like change and forgets that the Americana that you, me and anyone else grew up in at any time is not only different compared to today but to the previous generations as well.

    For example, the NYC, Newark, Hoboken, etc. neighborhoods that one may have grown up in and became so fond of were probably unsettling to others when they were forming.

    Fast Eddie says:
    October 23, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    Do I sound like a d1ck and a d0uche?

  69. Walking by says:

    Ok let me get this straight. so far everyone on this board currently living in bergen county is pro blue law, while the outsiders are telling us to accept the traffic from nyc, cause it will be better. you want to change the law move back to bergen county next time it’s up for a vote.

  70. ExEssex says:

    12:24 and why not be ‘arrogant’?
    Because it’s foolish, that’s why.

  71. Juice Box says:

    Ohh someone deleted their post..

    Anyway….In this case yes the minority has failed to make it’s case in the courts or the ballot box.

    Two Guys vs. McGinley 1961 supreme court ruling, and in several votes it failed to pass especially by a large majority.

    But hey it’s not really in your way anyway as if you did not have a choice in America. You can exercise your liberty since you feel so oppressed and drive a few miles and shop away, there were a few times we went to Wayne or Nyack to shop on Sunday. heck even gasp slumming it to Short Hills Mall.

  72. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I said put it up to municipal vote. Let each town decide. You are arguing against outside influence. So am I. I don’t think the voter in Paramus and other surrounding towns should be able to influence any towns that want out of the blue laws

  73. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Haha secede from the county? How about we just act like mature adults on the issue?

  74. Juice Box says:

    Mature adults don’t need a new pair of U*ggs on a Sunday to go with loungewear from some craptastic store in a mall.

    It’s state law actually the voters of each county must decide via referendum,all have except for those gosh darned majority by overwhelming population evangelists, quakers and seventh day Adventists in Bergen county, so go hire some lobbyists down in Trenton to fight for your right to shop.

  75. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I wasn’t attacking you. I was saying a town shouldn’t have to act like a baby and threaten to leave. There is a simple solution that works for everyone here, and it the current laws in place don’t allow that.

    I have a problem in general of other people telling other people what they can do. Your argument, and you can correct me if I’m wrong, is that you seem to have a problem with other people telling you what to do. Not the other way around.

    You seem to think I’m arguing for the rights of shoppers. And while I do think it’s their right, tt’s the business owner I feel sorry for. I know the way the laws are written at the state level, and I think they are in conflict with the natural rights that are afforded to us in this country.

    Here’s a question for you. Why are you so against some mom and pop shop opening up on Main St. in Bergenfield on a Sunday?

  76. Juice Box says:

    Blue – re: “I have a problem in general of other people telling other people what they can do”

    I have nothing against stores being opened on Sunday, but when I lived there in 1993 I may have even voted to let them open on Sunday. I really don’t remember, but either way my vote was counted and it was not enough to change the rule. Hense it remains.

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And isn’t that exactly what you are advocating for? You are telling people they can’t have the right to vote on what the majority of people want. Business first, as always. Quality of life, who gives a crap. No wonder you take the position you do with climate change.

    “I have a problem in general of other people telling other people what they can do. Your argument, and you can correct me if I’m wrong, is that you seem to have a problem with other people telling you what to do. Not the other way around.”

  78. so so stupid says:

    You are telling people they can’t have the right to vote on what the majority of people want which is to deny allowing the minority the OPTION to do or not do something.

  79. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    And just like that, the conversation has degraded into shit.

  80. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Truth hurts.

    We live in a democratic republic system. Under this system, the wants and needs of the majority are favored over the minority. Bergen county residents want their blue laws, their vote has spoken. Anyone that doesn’t agree with this, esp the business owner should immediately move to another place that fits their needs to work on Sunday.

  81. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Yet, as a capitalist, I believe it’s time to say out loud what we all know to be true: Capitalism, as we know it, is dead.”

    “To my fellow business leaders and billionaires, I say that we can no longer wash our hands of our responsibility for what people do with our products. Yes, profits are important, but so is society. And if our quest for greater profits leaves our world worse off than before, all we will have taught our children is the power of greed.

    It’s time for a new capitalism — a more fair, equal and sustainable capitalism that actually works for everyone and where businesses, including tech companies, don’t just take from society but truly give back and have a positive impact.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/opinion/benioff-salesforce-capitalism.html

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Half of you selfish pricks on this blog could never understand this. You put business and profit before anything else. So much so that you cry that climate change is nothing to worry about on the basis that it’s a waste of money. Sure..

  83. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Arming the immune system to kill cancer—and more.
    When Wendell Lim booted up his biophysical chemistry lab at UC San Francisco in 1996, he had no ambition to hack the human immune system. He was focused on more basic questions, like decoding the underlying logic of biology. Lim, who nearly majored in art at Harvard, sought answers through genetic engineering. For years he tinkered with yeast, inserting code into its DNA to make it do things never seen in nature.
        Then, in 2010, he met a University of Pennsylvania oncologist named Carl June who was developing a cancer treatment called CAR-T. It involves genetically engineering T cells—the assassins of the immune system—to create a clone army trained to find and destroy a patient’s unique cancer. In 2011, June published CAR-T’s first breakthrough success, which set off a tsunami of clinical trials, leading to (so far) two FDA-approved treatments. But June and others were worried. A clone army can also be deadly—it’s hard to make T cells that kill only cancer, with no collateral damage. Hearing this, Lim realized the tools he’d been tinkering with could make CAR-T safer and more reliable.
        Since 2015, Lim’s lab has been making more finely tuned T cells. One requires a drug to trigger its kill mode. Others use multiple molecular markers to identify cancer, like two-­factor authentication. First-gen CAR-T therapies rely on a single lock-and-key switch, Lim notes, but a tumor is a complex, mutating environment. That’s why he’s designing cells to read patterns of molecules, a bit like how facial recognition algorithms analyze faces. He’s also creating T cells that attack only when there’s a critical mass of tumor-specific molecules present, and a version that intercepts signals between tumor cells to stage assaults on the whole network.
        Lim expects some of his early T cell designs to be tested in humans within two years. But he’s already looking beyond cancer, to hacking the whole immune system: Healing wounds, halting degeneration, preventing autoimmunity—all of it could be guided by designer cells. “The culture now is that CAR-T is just a big toxin attached to an antibody,” Lim says. “The idea that immune cells are programmable computational devices that can do many things is pretty far away, but I’m hopeful we change that.””

    https://apple.news/AJFqXqhysQ8KjLIO66L-p1w

  84. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Better start taking better care of the planet, seems like we are going to be living a very very long time. What’s that matter if we destroy the planet?

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lol…the same govt you starve of revenue in the form of much reduced taxes. Some people are sick, they want it all. Low taxes, and govt there to save the day. Lol How greedy can you be?

    “Unfortunately, not everyone agrees. Some business leaders objected to the landmark declaration. The Council of Institutional Investors argued that “it is government, not companies, that should shoulder the responsibility of defining and addressing societal objectives.” When asked whether companies should serve all stakeholders and whether capitalism should be updated, Vice President Mike Pence warned against “leftist policies.””

  86. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “$350,000 a Year, and Just Getting By
    Financial confessionals reveal that income inequality and geographic inequality have normalized absurd spending patterns.”

    “More money means more choice means more flexibility means a far easier time getting by. But it is remarkable how often in these diaries luxuries become necessities—things families have to spend on, rather than things they choose to spend on. Take that first diary, of the family earning $350,000 a year in a place like San Francisco. The parents could choose not to live in a high-cost city, or to move to a smaller place in a less expensive neighborhood. They could send their kids to public schools and cut their yearly vacation count from three—three!—to zero.
    Dogen, for his part, believes that saving needs to hurt to work. “Anybody who has gotten braces or who has lifted weights understands this concept,” he says. “If the amount of money you’re saving each month doesn’t hurt a little, you’re not saving enough.” Of course, a family aware of its privilege, spending and saving conscientiously, if not painfully, is not a family whose budget is likely to go viral.”

    https://apple.news/ApbGdsdGYQHeVDNSdKd8mVg

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