Until AI takes over

From the APP:

College pays off in NJ: 7th highest median earnings for graduates

If you’re graduating from a New Jersey college, you might be in great shape.

According to a new study, the Garden State ranks in the top 10 of the highest median earnings.

The study, conducted by Teach Simple, uses data from the U.S. Department of Education to analyze institutions in each state based on the median earnings of individuals who began college 10 years ago to reveal the ranking. The study also looked at average annual cost that a student who receives federal financial aid will pay to cover expenses (e.g. tuition and living expenses) to attend a school, and the average graduation rate within eight years of entering the school. 

New Jersey ranks seventh, with an average of each institution’s median earnings at $57,381. It also says the average annual cost of NJ schools is $15,473 and the graduation rate is about 50 percent.

The top five states are Massachusetts ($65,319), Rhode Island ($64,818), Connecticut ($64,720), Maryland ($60,286) and Washington, D.C. ($59,364). California came in at No. 6 ($58,675), with Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Illinois rounding out the top 10.

The five states with the lowest pay are New Mexico ($38,417), Mississippi ($39,235), Arkansas ($41,481), Kentucky ($42,000) and North Dakota ($43,000).

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119 Responses to Until AI takes over

  1. grim says:

    Given the ludicrous $27 bill I got for 3 small ice creams yesterday, that $57k won’t get you too far. Even worse, the service was absolutely miserable, I was clearly interrupting something very important to place an order. Can’t even imagine what it would have cost if I’d asked for a waffle cone or sprinkles instead of cups.

    Was tempted to pull a Chipotle and walk out with the ice cream left on the counter.

    Wasn’t even Applegate’s, where you know full well you are going there to get ripped off and treated like crap.

  2. Fast Eddie says:

    Zero down, NINJAs, etc… where is the tan man when you need him!

  3. Fast Eddie says:

    And now, another build back better success story:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-built-pier-gaza-broke-225357032.html

  4. Fast Eddie says:

    3 ice creams, 27 dollars… it’s transitory inflation, don’t worry.

  5. Very Stable Genius says:

    “ The five states with the lowest pay are New Mexico ($38,417), Mississippi ($39,235), Arkansas ($41,481), Kentucky ($42,000) and North Dakota ($43,000).”

  6. Juice Box says:

    Congrats on the book Fab!

  7. Very Stable Genius says:

    Yet, the line was out the door

    grim says:
    May 30, 2024 at 6:17 am
    Given the ludicrous $27 bill I got for 3 small ice creams yesterday, that $57k won’t get you too far. Even worse, the service was absolutely miserable,

  8. grim says:

    Yet, the line was out the door

    No, actually it was not, we were the only people.

  9. grim says:

    On the topic of ice cream, an old colleague of mine opened namesake Randy’s in Pompton Lakes.

    He was part of the first wave of craft distillers in NJ, and did brands like Great Notch vodka and some others.

    Should have just went there, his prices are far more reasonable, and everything is really hand made, like, by hand, by him. Small shop, family business.

    If you are a foodie, you may never go anywhere else, some of his flavors are absolutely off the wall (in a good way), and you’d see the craft spirits influence on the menu:

    https://randyshomemadeicecream.com/flavors/

    Favorites are the lemon poppyseed and basil.

  10. grim says:

    Cue the stock market ass kicking?

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    Salesforce dropping like a rock, never liked the CEO, he looks sleazy. Perception is reality. Futures looking bleak, GDP revised down, $27 ice cream outings… what else?

  12. Phoenix says:

    It’s always an inverse. The higher the stock market goes, the worse everything else around you looks. More bankruptcy, more crime, more theft, worse customer service.

    Just like when you donate blood, the stock market is the blood. When it’s all in the bag, the patient is white as a ghost and looks sick as hell.

  13. Juice Box says:

    Guy at the local Dairy Queen is always in the back online gaming whenever I walked in there for what seems like $35 for ice cream cones. Thankfully my kids are older now and almost never ask to go in. I take them to Crazees for a treat, usually when their cousins are over in the summer. It a short ride to Rumson if you ever are in the area it’s worth the trip.

    https://www.crazees.com/

  14. Phoenix says:

    Fab,
    Congrats on your book. Must be a lot of work to write one.

  15. Juice Box says:

    Salesforce news

    “Stock could notch steepest daily decline since 2008 as company sees ‘elongated deal cycles, deal compression and high levels of budget scrutiny”

    Ya Think ?? It’s something like $1500 per user per year.

  16. grim says:

    We’ve talked about AI decimating back office and contact center work before.

    Realize that for every customer service rep replaced by an AI bot, that’s one less salesforce or zendesk license that needs to be purchased. For every tech support bot, that’s one less ServiceNow license. For every less phone call, that’s one less NICE, Genesys, Amazon Connect, Cisco license.

    Let’s look at Uber, or Lyft, or Grubhub, etc. That’s easily 30,000 people taking phone calls, doing chats. Easily 15,000 of them could be replaced by AI. That’s $18 million less in spend for CRM alone. Now add in telco, telephony, networking, data center, etc etc.

    Lots of what we consider Technology, is NOT defensible. That’s 15k less computers, monitors, keyboards needed to run the business, that need to be replaced every 3 years, etc.

    Scale this out.

  17. Phoenix says:

    It ain’t the 50’s. And the newest kids I work with, always takes two of them to do anything. They are mentally disturbed when they have to do something by themselves. Takes one to open the band-aid, a second to put it on the patient.

    But don’t say something to them, they will cry to management.

    It’s getting worse.

    Juice Box says:
    May 30, 2024 at 9:37 am

    Guy at the local Dairy Queen is always in the back online gaming whenever I walked in there for what seems like $35 for ice cream cones.

  18. Captain Cheapo says:

    The line was literally out the door at Carvel in Nutley, yesterday. Wednesday is still Sundae and nothing beats Carvel’s soft-serve. Two kids size and two small single topping sundaes are under $10 complete. You just gotta know where to go. Parlet that with an Impossible or regular Whopper at the BK next door for another $3 each.

  19. Phoenix says:

    Scale it out. I see more catalytic converter thefts, more robbery, more murder, more arson.

    Want it scaled out more?

    grim says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:09 am
    Lots of what we consider Technology, is NOT defensible. That’s 15k less computers, monitors, keyboards needed to run the business, that need to be replaced every 3 years, etc.

    Scale this out.

  20. Chicago says:

    I disagree. They have to talk about who the bakers are. I think it’s an absolute cheap shot. They probably think they’re absolutely brilliant, but it’s about the most destructive thing that can be done

    Phoenix says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:04 am
    CBS pie. Well done.

    https://youtu.be/DANUXO-GQwU?t=49

  21. Phoenix says:

    The adult woman didn’t like being called what she was. Hehe.

    The juvenile was bleeding from the nose and eye and required stitches after being struck by the device thrown by Katherine Pastor, 44, in the kitchen of her Sherwood Avenue home last Friday, May 24, Bergen County Prosecutor Mark Musella said.

    The two had gotten into an argument over Pastor’s alleged infidelities, a Teaneck police complaint on file in Superior Court in Hackensack says.

    “The argument turned physical, but both parties were separated by family,” the complaint filed by Officer James Zwerling says.

    Pastor then “proceeded to throw an internet router at [the minor], striking her in the face,” it says.

  22. Phoenix says:

    The bakers did talk. Two of them at the boat show.

    They were represented.

    Chicago says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:25 am

    I disagree. They have to talk about who the bakers are. I think it’s an absolute cheap shot. They probably think they’re absolutely brilliant, but it’s about the most destructive thing that can be done

  23. Phoenix says:

    No Soup for You. Hehe

    Stop & Shop supermarket chain sparks fears of mass closures as ‘difficult’ decisions hinted at by bosses

  24. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Been saying this since the pandemic. Workers are worthless. Why do you think they all want to work from home? And why do you think bosses hate work from home? It’s not rocket science.

    My brother was talking to this guy. He said the most difficult thing when dealing with these younger workers….they can’t put in a 5 day work week. They consistently call out on a regular basis. It’s f/ing bad 0ut there, and it’s contributing to inflation….you are paying people 8 hrs for maybe 3-4 hours of work. It’s a joke.

    Sick part, this is not just an American issue. My dad says the same thing is happening in Europe. No one wants to work. He said in Poland, everyone has gone lazy. He said the Ukrainians are now the majority of service workers in Poland.

    This is what happens when life becomes too easy. Western society is in trouble. Have it too easy. When you don’t have to work hard to survive, this is the result. When you just give people chit for breathing (thank you pandemic), you f/k up their mindest and work ethic. The pandemic destroyed it.

    This chit work ethic has been going on for years….I have witnessed it happen in my career as a teacher. It started late 2000s and slowly went downhill every year. The pandemic was the icing on the cake and absolutely cemented this chit work ethic. Now you pass a kid for showing up. Everyone gets a trophy.

    You old timers pushing WFH and giving in to the youth are asking for trouble. Who is going to take care of you in old age now? Who is going to work hard to keep society going at a reasonable price? Be careful what you push…might not end well.

    grim says:
    May 30, 2024 at 6:17 am
    Given the ludicrous $27 bill I got for 3 small ice creams yesterday, that $57k won’t get you too far. Even worse, the service was absolutely miserable, I was clearly interrupting something very important to place an order. Can’t even imagine what it would have cost if I’d asked for a waffle cone or sprinkles instead of cups.

    Was tempted to pull a Chipotle and walk out with the ice cream left on the counter.

    Wasn’t even Applegate’s, where you know full well you are going there to get ripped off and treated like crap.

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bingo…it’s pathetic.

    For god’s sake, these people don’t even want to leave their house. In your 20s, and have your groceries delivered? You have your fast food delivered? Wtf… what happened?!

    Phoenix says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:12 am
    It ain’t the 50’s. And the newest kids I work with, always takes two of them to do anything. They are mentally disturbed when they have to do something by themselves. Takes one to open the band-aid, a second to put it on the patient.

    But don’t say something to them, they will cry to management.

    It’s getting worse.

  26. 1987 Condo says:

    That $1.99 Costco Icecream sundae thing seems like a good deal…given $7 scoops

  27. 3b says:

    Phoenix: The stop and shop near me, might be one of the ones to close. Lots of shelves look empty, and the store is tired looking,and it’s not that old. The Aldi s in Montvale is nice, and great prices too.

  28. Fast Eddie says:

    Boomers still have their work ethic, it’s engrained. They cut lawns, delivered newspapers, shoveled snow and then as adults, showed up for work, five days per week even if hungover and sick.

  29. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – “You have your fast food delivered? Wtf… what happened?!”

    My son thinks nothing of door dashing Chick fil A for 20 kids down to the soccer field. They have Captain’s practice all summer. That is what they are doing…. Door Dash like crazy.

    My doorbell rings late at night when there is a sleep over the boys order delivery.
    Just note I am not paying for it. They all must pay for their own food. I always explain the added chargers and tips etc. They don’t care when it’s a large order….5 or 6 kids or 20 etc.

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Like I said, no way in hell does the govt not support gingko if it is threatened with bankruptcy. No way, no how. Wall st only worries about the numbers, they don’t understand what this passage below means for gingko. Easy money at current price. Just have to have patience.

    So keep mocking me like you did with real estate all last decade. Laugh….because i will have the last laugh again. Can’t wait to hear lefty’s excuse when this eventually hits.

    “Following the tour, Dr. Smolke moderated a panel discussion with Secretary Blinken and industry and policy experts from Atomic Al, Ginkgo Bioworks, MycoWorks, Stanford University, and Twist Bioscience. The discussion focused on how biotechnology is transforming both the U.S. and global economy and how the U.S. can maintain its leadership in this critical technology. Panelists emphasized the importance of biotechnology in solving major global problems, including ending drug shortages, creating circular, sustainable economies, and reducing food insecurity. The discussion also touched on the potential for artificial intelligence tools to accelerate this work across industries.”

    https://antheia.bio/u-s-secretary-of-state-antony-j-blinken-visits-antheia-to-discuss-biotechnology-innovation/

  31. 3b says:

    Fast: A few times over the years, I got home in the wee hours of the morning, after having entertained clients, closing dinners etc. I made coffee, took a shower and was back on the train to be at my desk by 7:30. That’s when men were men and women were women.

  32. BRT says:

    inflation is over, haven’t you heard?

  33. 3b says:

    Pending home sales fall, GDP revised down, cut the rates!!! Now!!!

  34. Libturd says:

    3B,

    Worked many a 30 hour shift too. Once, worked one of those shifts and ended up in Port Jervis at the end of the Clifton Line instead of Pavonia (my stop). The conductor let me sleep on it for the next three hours until it returned to Hoboken.

  35. 3b says:

    Lib: Wow, that’s a great story! It was different in those days, you did whatever it took. Being out late was not an excuse.

  36. Phoenix says:

    That’s when water didn’t contain birth control, and tadpoles only had one head.

    3b says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:56 am
    That’s when men were men and women were women.

  37. The Great Pumpkin says:

    We are getting very close…

    Conspiracy theory….they crash it when trump becomes president. Should be fun if that’s the case….total chaos. lol

    I do think it crashes before that unless they prop it up for one last time before the election.

    The signs are there. The rates are taking a big toll on the economy.

    3b says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:59 am
    Pending home sales fall, GDP revised down, cut the rates!!! Now!!!

  38. Phoenix says:

    When you hear the big pop that’s when you will know its over. Down comes the balloon.

    BRT says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:59 am

    inflation is over, haven’t you heard?

  39. 3b says:

    Phoenix: NJ water contains estrogen, and it’s turning men into women.

  40. BRT says:

    Ice cream truck is making a comeback. Kids have caught him in the neighborhood 3 times already. My son asked for Cherry Dip and the dude literally goes with exhaustion “I’m not Mr. Softee”. You could tell he had to say it a dozen other times in the past hour.

  41. 3b says:

    I am hearing that quite a few people were shocked this Spring when their tadpoles did not get into Rutgers. Apparently, it has gotten much more competitive with only a 50 percent acceptance rate.

  42. BRT says:

    Victim of shrinkflation last night. Had to grab a sandwich to go from a local place prior to my kid’s baseball game. The chicken cutlet is no longer a full cutlet but maybe 1/2 of one slice up and spread out on the sandwich. So the sandwich went from 13 to 16 bucks, and is now half the protein. I really wanna be like, just make it 16.50 and give me the full cutlet. I was still hungry afterwards.

  43. Juice Box says:

    3b – re :”entertained clients”

    How did you explain the Scores charge on the company Amex or did it say East 60th Street LLC steak house or something?

  44. Hold my beer says:

    Fast

    Last week I was in a small antique store that’s closing. The 80 year old owner is liquidating most stuff because landlord is retiring and selling the building. The antique store owner is moving all the small items like jewelry and ephemera onto eBay and Etsy. She said she wouldn’t know what to do if she fully retired. And she was still buying jewelry collections when I was in there.

  45. Fast Eddie says:

    I did a few 16-hour stints loading trucks back in the day. In heavy construction, 10-hour days were the norm on top of a 90-minute ride each way. A 13 hour day, sometimes six days per week. The most I did in my white-collar tech career was 24 hours straight. Somewhere around 4:00 AM, it starts to get painful. Loading trucks keeps you going until you punch out at 7:00 AM after 16 hours and have to fight to stay awake on the drive home from Perth Amboy to Jersey City.

  46. Very Stable Genius says:

    “ The top five states are Massachusetts ($65,319), Rhode Island ($64,818), Connecticut ($64,720), Maryland ($60,286) and Washington, D.C. ($59,364). California came in at No. 6 ($58,675), with Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Illinois rounding out the top 10.”

  47. Fast Eddie says:

    Beer,

    Technically, I could retire tomorrow but I see myself working indefinitely. I don’t know why, I just know. I’ve been getting up before sunrise for so many years I wouldn’t know what else to do. I’m not into two-week cruises and plane rides around the globe. I’d rather do weekend getaways and get back to my own bed. It’s just how a lot of us are wired.

  48. 3b says:

    Juice: It was all upfront, nothing hidden. It was part of doing business. Best part was the brokers brokers, always winning and dining, 200 dollar bottles of Opus wine, concert tickets, Xmas shows, Rockettes , sporting events, the list was endless. And the gifts from clients at holiday time were non- stop, UPS and Fed Ex deliveries from the end of November through the end of December, all sent to the house. Fun times! But, we worked our asses off from 7:30 to 5, and heavy stress as well. That’s also back in the day before the Fed turned into wussies.

  49. Fast Eddie says:

    Kohl stock plunges 27%. This is not an upscale joint as we all know. It’s not even Macy’s level so, what is this telling us? People are reaching the end of the line, money is getting tight.

  50. 3b says:

    Fast: I am sure there are lots of people that would want to work part time after they retire, either in their field or something else. Social Security will penalize you if you make more than a certain amount.

    I understand you don’t like global trips, but if you do a couple, you might change your mind.

  51. Fast Eddie says:

    Salesforce down $55 per share (20%).

    Ouch.

  52. Very Stable Genius says:

    They also vote for Socialism for them. They get socialist universal healthcare and universal basic income.
    Their privileges are not to be shared with the young.

    Fast Eddie says:
    May 30, 2024 at 10:54 am
    Boomers still have their work ethic, it’s engrained. They cut lawns, delivered newspapers, shoveled snow and then as adults, showed up for work, five days per week even if hungover and sick.

  53. 3b says:

    Fast: Macys is not doing well either. I was in the Paramus Park one recently looking for something. The men’s department pretty much screams we dont want old men shopping in here. Almost everything geared to the young men. I have to say, some ugly ass shit and colors too.

  54. Hold my beer says:

    Fast

    I know a lot of people who got depression, became alcoholics, died, or went senile soon after they retired. The retired people I know who do well either have part time side hustles like teaching guitar or selling stuff online or antique stores, are daycare for the grandkids, or they have hobbies they are really into and spend 20+ hours a week on. Without some sort of structure I think your mind goes to mush and you wind up senile or hate watching the news until you go senile or keel over.

  55. Very Stable Genius says:

    Never bet against America

    grim says:
    May 30, 2024 at 8:33 am
    Cue the stock market ass kicking?

  56. BRT says:

    Hold,

    my in-laws top priority is watching cable news. It runs their lives. Others that I saw that thought they were just going to play golf last about 3 years before they fall apart. My plan is to get a decent plot of land to farm along with a greenhouse for winter growing.

  57. Fast Eddie says:

    Beer,

    Ya gotta have a plan if you’re going to retire. I play guitar every friggin’ day and I will be ramping up my skills even more so if/when I retire. I also have gotten into landscaping my yard bigly the last few years and I can see working part time with a landscaper or garden center. It could even be something in numismatics as I’m into that gig as well. There are options.

  58. Fast Eddie says:

    They also vote for Socialism for them. They get socialist universal healthcare and universal basic income.
    Their privileges are not to be shared with the young.

    Beep! Beep! Bop! Bop! Alert! Alert! Alert! I must repeat! I must repeat! I must repeat!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj0Mr3mLujE

  59. 3b says:

    Fast: If your neighbors see you working in a garden center store, they will be talking about you. That’s not prestigious, and they will think you are poor. This is Bergen Co after all.

  60. Phoenix says:

    Eddie

    Numismatics? Just do what Menendez does. Fill your closet with gold bars.

  61. Libturd says:

    When I retire, I am going to get into politics so I can finally get rich.

  62. Phoenix says:

    Go for it Lib. I need someone that I would actually have a real desire to pull the lever for.

  63. LAX says:

    Retirement is something I may be able to speak to because I’ve taken a year and 1.5 years off before and you do tend to fall into some habits. It is a good time though to look after yourself. Naps are more common. Getting all of those pesky healthcare things done. Trying to exercise. Having a guitar hobby is great, but buying expensive new gear isn’t so get the expensive stuff while you are working and enjoy it once you have the time. Same for any hobby I suppose. Golf is another option for the retired. My back isn’t great these days so I am not a frequent golfer. Cycling is a great option.

    Having time though doesn’t necessarily mean that you will actually use it. I live in a virtual year – round playground and don’t find myself doing all of the cool stuff that I could be doing. Selling things is great, getting rid of gear that y0u don’t use is one of my goals. I would like to teach again full time here in CA but the population if stagnate and the schools are spotty so I do sub occasionally.

  64. Fast Eddie says:

    The US economy grew more slowly than initially thought during the first quarter.

    Gee, ya think? :\

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gdp-us-economy-grew-at-a-slower-pace-than-initially-thought-in-q1-131220924.html

  65. 3b says:

    Article in Market Watch four day work week is closer than you think.

  66. LAX says:

    Another thing. You’ll have a lot of extra time and i’d say you’ll want to limit your exposure to media. Modern media is a shitshow. Influencers are laughable.
    Don’t get too caught up in the echo chambers. They all suck the life out of you.

  67. Very Stable Genius says:

    May 30, 2024, 3:07 p.m. ET1 minute ago

    1 minute ago

    Live Updates:
    Jury Resumes Deliberating After Rehearing Testimony
    The 12 New Yorkers deciding the criminal case against Donald J. Trump reheard parts of the testimony by two witnesses and some of the judge’s instructions. The case stems from a hush-money payment to a porn star.

  68. Fast Eddie says:

    Article in Market Watch four day work week is closer than you think.

    Boomers want compensation from Gen Y and Z for the extra day they worked from the age of 15 to 65.

  69. Fast Eddie says:

    What’s taking this Jury so long to convict Trump? The liberals have been waiting four years to ejaculate.

  70. Fast Eddie says:

    If it’s a hung jury, I can see the headline on the front page of the NY Post: “Stormy Gets No Pleasure From Hung Jury!”

  71. leftwing says:

    Hahaha, that headline would be hilarious

  72. LAX says:

    A verdict doesn’t matter. He’ll file an appeal.
    Trump’s a litigious fucktard. He’s been in thousands of court cases
    in his life. Somehow he finds the time in between bankruptcies and divorces.

  73. Jim says:

    Libturd says:
    May 30, 2024 at 1:36 pm
    When I retire, I am going to get into politics so I can finally get rich.

    Stu,

    That’s a perfect idea you would be a great politician you already stretch the truth, blow your own horn and lie about our current politicians. You check all the boxes to be a Democratic lackey. Go for it.

  74. Jim says:

    Hold my beer says:
    May 30, 2024 at 11:42 am
    Fast

    I know a lot of people who got depression, became alcoholics, died, or went senile soon after they retired.

    The majority of my friends who have retired either work part time or help( volunteer) others. It seems when people turn 80 they then have to slow down. I still work and keep busy, my wife is worse getting up @5:30 and getting the grandkids off to school, then she starts her days , meeting friends, Dr. appts., food shopping, working out, and other various chores.

    I am considering purchasing a 4,000 square foot building with 13 rental units, because I feel I need another project, my wife is dead set against it. I literally have to go to cardiologist and pass a stress test before I can go any further with the purchase. My main doctor picked up a abnormal EKG and now wife thinks I am in trouble, LOL

  75. 3b says:

    Man stabbed in Times Square with machete, at 1 o’clock in the afternoon.

  76. Libturd says:

    Stabbed or sliced?

  77. leftwing says:

    Verdict. Has to be guilty. Too fast for NG and that wasn’t happening anyway.

  78. Libturd says:

    Can we just get to the Georgia case already?

  79. leftwing says:

    Sure you don’t want to file some shit case in another local jurisdiction or two as insurance policies?

    Just in case, y’know…..

  80. NewNameIsFor TheFelonPOTUSisStripedOrangeTraitor says:

    Guilty. If he paid for the BJ with a company check and deduct it, you must convict.

    This is right there with the ’93 WTC bombers going back to UHaul to pick up the cash deposit.

    Combination of arrogance, cheapness and horniness.

  81. NewNameForTheFelon POTUSisStripedOrangeTraitor says:

    34 out of 34 GUILTY………

  82. Fast Eddie says:

    When does the looting, burning and rioting begin?

  83. leftwing says:

    Uhmmmm….you missed the mark….

    The problem is that he paid for the hush money from *personal* accounts.

    If he paid from campaign funds that would have been *legal*.

    Welcome to liberal bizarro-world….

  84. LAX says:

    Call up the Gravy Seals…..’ insurrrrrecccct

  85. NewNameForTheFelon POTUSisStripedOrangeTraitor says:

    Fast,

    You mean a repeat of Jan 6th.?

    I think his crowd is now eating the early bird special at the Country Kitchen Buffet or they are already in bed.

    The younger one are already sedated from their prescriptions illegal or legal one.

    Is very difficult to excite

  86. leftwing says:

    “When does the looting, burning and rioting begin?”

    Haha, good one Eddie.

    I’m assuming an /s implied as we all know it’s the animals on the left that burn and riot – and get away with it – not the Right.

  87. 3b says:

    No matter how much people hate Trump, this verdict is BS, a political show trial. It sets a bad precedent going forward.

  88. LAX says:

    Waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaa
    Ya’ll better fly your flag upside down

  89. LAX says:

    5:14 no shit! These f-cks have a selective memory.

  90. leftwing says:

    LOLOLOL, Trump bitch slapping the judge right out of the courtroom…have to admit, the guy’s got balls….same judge that can sentence him up to 4 years….

    Sentencing 7/11.

  91. LAX says:

    5:22 Stormy sez Trump’s balls are tiny 2 pump chumpers.

  92. Very Stable Genius says:

    Breaking NEWS!

    Trump guilty in hush-money case

  93. Very Stable Genius says:

    LIVE
    Updated
    May 30, 2024, 5:39 p.m. ETJust Now
    Just now
    Live Updates: Trump Guilty on All Counts in Hush-Money Case
    Donald J. Trump, the former president and presumptive 2024 Republican nominee, was convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in a case stemming from a payment that silenced a porn star.

  94. Juice Box says:

    Hahahah……he may be guility of allot of things….but this one on appeal? I keep hearing the talking heads say it was on shaky gounds to begin with.

    The charges are tied to this NY Law.

    New York Election Law Section 17-152: “Conspiracy to promote or prevent election. Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.”

    I want to know which it was promote or prevent? Oh wait a minute Clinton won NY 2016 with 59.01%. NY law does not apply to the results nationally, that would be the Feds who declined to prosecute.

  95. Very Stable Genius says:

    MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow said the jury “deserves to be thanked for their efforts,” and warned that Trump and his allies would try to seed doubts about the guilty verdict, calling it a test “of the rule of law in our country.”

  96. SomeOne says:

    Juice,

    Crystal Mason filled out a provisional ballot in the 2016 election. The state never counted her ballot but has still sought to send her to prison for five years for an innocent mistake. Your take?

  97. LAX says:

    ( )( )===D –g-g-g-guilty–

  98. 3b says:

    Very: Listening to Rachel Maddow is the leftist equivalent of listening to Sean Hannity.

  99. 3b says:

    In other news Walmart is eliminating 237 positions from its Hoboken office with more cuts to come in August and November.

  100. LAX says:

    6:38 except Maddow went to college.

  101. LAX says:

    Let’s compare:

    Hannity attended Sacred Heart Seminary in Hempstead, New York and St. Pius X Preparatory Seminary in Uniondale, New York. He attended New York University and Adelphi University, but did not graduate from either.

    Maddow holds a bachelor’s degree in public policy from Stanford University and a doctorate in political science from the University of Oxford

  102. 3b says:

    LAX: Nothing to do with education of either one. It’s the faux outrage, heartbreak, and tears, and lies spouted by both for their ill informed fans.

  103. leftwing says:

    Two types go to poli sci….pragmatists using it mostly for law school, and those who intend to go into politics starting with the premise of Comparative Government 101…That is, your government is simply a laboratory for various social experiments dreamed up over time for implementation by them. Hit? Miss? Doesn’t matter.

    I was the former. Maddow and other wackos are the latter.

    The country in total would be far better off blowing up these departments. I studied next to these people for four years, they are frightening. They should be nowhere near any lever of power.

  104. LAX says:

    7:11 kill all the lawyers

  105. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This economy blows my mind on how it survived this long with an inverted yield curve.

    Hard to grow an economy when basic necessities and shelter take more of your paycheck than ever before. It’s only a matter of time before it crashes. Why? High rates and high housing costs are automatic triggers for a recession…it’s just a matter of when now.

    Just remember, when a house doubles in price….that’s sucking capital away from other parts of the economy in a high rate environment. No one is going to refinance or take out an equity loan with high rates. So, it’s only a matter of when…

  106. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You want to create a recession…raise rates and double housing costs in a short amount of time. Not rocket science.

  107. JUice Box says:

    Someone – re: “Crystal Mason”

    Overturned on appeals there was no PROOF she “had actual knowledge that it was a crime” to vote while on probation.

    So did Trump know he was committing a crime? Like Crystal Mason who had her conviction over turned Trump has to resources to appeal. The ACLU and donations backed her, Trump has his bible money, and if he needs to he can tap his Son in Law for some of that Saudi Sovern Wealth Fund money.. I wonder if that investment is a 2/20 arrangement…that would be sweet….

    Honestly I want him off the front page, and have for a long time. Back in 2015 when he announced he was running it was comical to me. But as we all should know a comedy can sometimes turn into a tragedy.

  108. leftwing says:

    Juice, re: DJT and knowledge of crime that is why the Feds decided not to prosecute…there’s a great quote out there by one of the insiders that they had serious doubts that Trump could comprehend the election law…found it last time we had this discussion here, no time to google.

  109. LAX says:

    The Feds passed because Trump can’t “pardon” himself on State convictions.

  110. 3b says:

    Lax: Opinion or fact?

  111. Juice Box says:

    LAX – You would be more honest if you said while Trump was president there was no attempt to prosecute him for 2016 election interference. You are claiming our current DOJ did not do the math here.

    They did and they figured some simpler violation of laws around retaining printed documents would be easier (especially since the jury will never be show the documents), and just to be sure file the same charges in more than one jurisdiction.

    Again if he was not such a giant a-hole it would have never happened.

  112. Very Stable Genius says:

    I prefer presidents who aren’t convicted felons

  113. leftwing says:

    “The Feds passed because Trump can’t “pardon” himself on State convictions.”

    Not true. Concern with Cohen credibility and as I stated DJT campaign law knowledge. From the article below…..I know, I know the NYT is a right-leaning unreliable rag…

    “By July 2019, in another court filing, Southern District prosecutors signaled they were unlikely to file additional charges in the hush-money investigation, reporting they had “effectively concluded” their inquiry into efforts to buy the silence of Ms. Daniels and another woman who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump.

    They did not include any explanation. But in private, federal prosecutors cited concerns that Mr. Trump’s lack of basic knowledge of campaign finance laws would make it hard to prove intent, according to three people familiar with the situation.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/nyregion/justice-dept-trump-indictment-charges.html

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