First Jobs Report of 2025

From CNBC:

The big January jobs report comes out Friday. Here’s what to expect

When the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases its nonfarm payrolls count for January, it is projected to show growth of 169,000, down from 256,000 in December, but nearly in line with the three-month average.

The U.S. labor market likely began 2025 in solid fashion, in a bit of a step down from where it closed the previous year.

When the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases its nonfarm payrolls count for January, it is projected to show growth of 169,000, down from 256,000 in December, but nearly in line with the past three-month average. The unemployment rate is projected to stay at 4.1%, according to the Dow Jones consensus for the report, which will be out Friday at 8:30 a.m. ET.

While the takeaway could be that job creation is slowing, the broader view is that the employment picture is holding solid, and it’s not likely to be a problem for the Federal Reserve any time in the near future.

“With inflation at least for now at tolerable levels and firms very comfortable making sustained investment, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t continue to see job growth around 150,000 per month, which is the upper end of what’s needed to keep the labor market stable,” said Joseph Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM. “In other words, we’re at full employment. This is a good problem to have.”

By the time the Fed concluded its final three meetings of 2024, it had cut its key borrowing rate by a full percentage point. In good part, this was because policymakers sought to support a labor market that showed signs of weakening.

However, recent indicators show that while hiring has leveled off, layoffs aren’t increasing and workers aren’t quitting, though job openings are on the decline

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145 Responses to First Jobs Report of 2025

  1. Chicago says:

    Frist. Finally.

  2. grim says:

    https://mortgagetech.ice.com/publicdocs/mortgage/february-2025-mortgage-monitor-report.pdf

     While the share of homeowners past due on mortgage payments trended modestly higher in the second half of 2024, performance remains strong by historical standards

     The national delinquency rate rose 14 basis points (bps) in 2024 but remained 22 bps below its pandemic entry point

     Performance remains strong among GSE and portfolio-held mortgages, with delinquencies among portfolio held mortgages down 11 bps from last year and 1.1 percentage points below where we entered 2020

     FHA delinquencies, on the other hand, have increased sharply, rising 74 bps in 2024, and are now 2.5 percentage points above where they were just prior to the global pandemic

     VA delinquencies have also been on the rise, up 80 bps in 2024 and 83 bps from the beginning of 2020

     With FHA and VA loan delinquencies likely to serve as canaries in the coal mine for mortgage performance in this cycle, we expect this to become a growing topic of conversation in 2025

  3. grim says:

    Waited for you to post that

  4. Very Stable Genius says:

    same thread for 3 days. some kind of record

  5. Very Stable Genius says:

    President Musk is granting full access of all americans information to Palantir to hunt trumps opposition

  6. Fast Eddie says:

    “With inflation at least for now at tolerable levels and firms very comfortable making sustained investment, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t continue to see job growth around 150,000 per month, which is the upper end of what’s needed to keep the labor market stable,” said Joseph Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM. “In other words, we’re at full employment. This is a good problem to have.”

    It also means that the bounce back jobs from Covid are now complete and into the plus category going forward. There wasn’t any innovation or long term plan in the last administration and I’m not sure how many jobs are created from s0cial engineering. I guess you can call a paid activist a job but it reeks of non-productivity. Even those green jobs were nothing more than consultants and advisors and nothing tangible. So, any job in the books going forward is likely real meat. Substance, not symbolism.

  7. Boomer Remover says:

    Eddie you haven’t discovered anything new. Jobs reports have always included menial, questionable employment, which historically had little relation to a what is required to live i.e. a true living wage. It’s not just the past administration, this administration, Obamba’s administration or Dubya’s, it’s just how this noisy figure is derived.

  8. Juice Box says:

    Read only. No worries the terrorists will still get their US Treasury checks.

    “According to the filing made before the D.C. Federal Court, the order would only allow two of Musk’s affiliates Tom Krause and Marko Elez to “read-only” access to the sensitive financial data.

    Krause, the CEO of Cloud Software Group, and Marko Elez, a 25-year-old former SpaceX engineer, are described as “Special Government Employee[s]” in the order.

    Other Treasury Department employees will continue to have access to the record when needed “in the performance of their duties.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/02/06/justice-department-lawyers-agree-to-limit-doge-operatives-access-to-sensitive-treasury-data/

  9. grim says:

    Yeah, not really, we’ve gone way longer than 3 days.

    Was back to back in Denver for two weeks. Minnesota is on deck (this time of year!?!?), then Dallas, and then Philippines at the end of the month. Might be a 100k mile kind of year.

  10. grim says:

    Anyone else think Elon is just hiring his gamer buddies?

  11. grim says:

    There wasn’t any innovation or long term plan in the last administration and I’m not sure how many jobs are created from s0cial engineering. I guess you can call a paid activist a job but it reeks of non-productivity.

    Politicians don’t create jobs, they only take credit for them.

  12. grim says:

    Like this buyout nonsense. 60,000 took the buyouts. Wow!!

    Except 75,000 federal workers retire every year anyway, and another 75,000 quit their jobs.

    So how many of these 60,000 would have simply retired or quit anyone, but decided to do so early because the payouts were better? Probably a lot of them.

    What’s the terms of the buyout? How much is this costing us? Full pay and benefits through September? So like, 7-8 months of paid vacation? Shit, why not?

  13. Chicago says:

    Job comes fine. But last month revised up.

  14. Chicago says:

    Ten 447

  15. grim says:

    143k – Missed

    4.0% UE – Better

  16. RentL0rd says:

    Was talking to a friend in Canada. He works for a American oil company which has a refinery in the Labrador area.

    They are shutting down. They get carbon credits from the Canadian govt, which expired in December. And the local govt is mad at everything American and do not want to give any credits. He says the rage at America is palpable everywhere.

  17. Hold my beer says:

    Grim

    When in Dallas try Velvet Taco.

  18. PlanesCrashing says:

    Yet another plane crash.

    SmallGov and Eddie, are you counting? 4th incident in a month.

    The greatness!

  19. Juice Box says:

    Not sure what the Elon and Tom Krause connection is. His company is Tibco aka Cloud Software Group. He cannot work longer than 3 months as a “special government employee”. I would think he is combing thru the Treasury data himself to find perhaps some glaring fraud.

    NY Times says Krause was the one who froze payments for USAID. However in the recent court filing the lawyers say he has read only data access to Treasury systems.

    There were only two temporary appointees at Treasury Tom and Marko. One just quit news media scraped the Wayback machine and found some old posts a bit of a racist for sure. He is 25 year old Marko Elez a Space X engineer.

    Anyway you can bet there is pressure being applied to Robert F. Smith to fire Tom Krause from his job as CEO of Cloud Software Group. Robert’s PE company Vistas Equity probably has heavy hitter investors now pressuring him.

    There are Tech bros lined up behind Trump for sure. But not all of them.

    https://fintel.io/i/vista-equity-partners-management-llc

  20. Fast Eddie says:

    Yet another plane crash.

    Articles of impeachment should be drawn up immediately.

  21. Boomer Remover says:

    Oh, look! An article that clearly contracts whatever boomer propaganda they’re feeding Juice.

    “As WIRED has reported, Elez was granted privileges including the ability to not just read but write code on two of the most sensitive systems in the US government: the Payment Automation Manager (PAM) and Secure Payment System (SPS) at the Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS), an agency that according to Treasury records paid out $5.45 trillion in fiscal year 2024.”

    It’s all reporting so who knows whose magazine of choice is correct. But, assuming Juice’s article is in fact the correct take, how does one order to “temporarily curb” previously broad access? Data is not a tangible physical item you place back on a shelf.

  22. Juice Box says:

    Rent – There are more polar bears in Labrador than people.

    You think that the rage at America you speak of will last until the election?

    I have friends from Toronto and Vancouver and a co-worker who is from Canada living here now. They all hate the existing Canada leadership.

    27% approval rating for Justin Trudeau who resigned but he refuses to call for a snap election and is hanging onto power while his Liberal Party comes up with a new leader.

    They are trying to prevent Pierre Poilievre who is leading the polls from becoming the next Prime Minister.

    338 seats in the Canadian Parliament, it won’t take much if the other parties flip to Poilievre.

    LIB 153 members in Parliament
    CBC 120 members in Parliament
    BQ 33 members in Parliament
    NDP 24 members in Parliament

  23. Chicago says:

    Sounds like a Mexican Pimp

    Hold my beer says:
    February 7, 2025 at 8:39 am
    Grim

    When in Dallas try Velvet Taco.

  24. Very Stable Genius says:

    Hard working man has no time to be glued to Fox News

    grim says:
    February 7, 2025 at 8:17 am
    Yeah, not really, we’ve gone way longer than 3 days.

    Was back to back in Denver for two weeks. Minnesota is on deck (this time of year!?!?), then Dallas, and then Philippines at the end of the month. Might be a 100k mile kind of year.

  25. Very Stable Genius says:

    where eggs at?

    Chicago says:
    February 7, 2025 at 8:31 am
    Ten 447

  26. Juice Box says:

    Boomer- Are accusing the lawyers of lying to a Federal Judge. Right now there is only one guy from Doge with read access.

    What systems did Wired say they have access to?

    Read and write code? Hehehe. You mean write reports don’t you? Not quite code. CARS, GTAS, FMS, IPAC, RITS, TRACS, SPS, ASAP are some of the US Treasury systems. There is still a mainframe environment with a decade long modernization program that cost tens of billions.

    One guy no matter how brilliant is not going to figure out where the bodies are buried with all of the various systems the Treasury has and is certainly not going to write code to modify any of those systems.

  27. Juice Box says:

    BTW – Oracle Fusion is the US Treasury. Spend a little time looking at the documentation. Let me know where they are inserting the code you claim they are writing..

    https://docs.oracle.com/en/cloud/saas/financials/24c/fauus/overview-of-treasury-payments.html

  28. SmallGovConservative says:

    Very Stable Genius says:
    February 7, 2025 at 9:16 am
    “where eggs at?”

    All over Lib’s face; remember when he guaranteed that the SCOTUS decision to overturn Roe would ensure that DJT wouldn’t be elected? One thing for sure, you stooges never tire of embarrassing yourselves. 4 more years…

  29. RentL0rd says:

    Juice 8:59,

    It’s true though that Canadians hate Trudeau.

    Their current hate for America is mutually exclusive to hating their own problems. In fact to a big degree it has brought Canadians together.

  30. Juice Box says:

    re: ” has brought Canadians together.”

    You may be right they could vote in Poilievre.

  31. Boomer Remover says:

    I eat Velvet Taco every chance I get, and not just in Dallas.

  32. Libturd says:

    Smalls,

    You were right about my SCOTUS view on the Roe V. Wade overturn. I underestimated the collective amount of stupid that exists in this country. Go watch that GutFeld link I posted again. It explains everything you need to know. Idiocracy, straight ahead.

    Now if only you could admit once that you were wrong about the hundreds of things you post here.

  33. Libturd says:

    Grim,

    Keen observation about the resignments. My BIL said there is one on his team. The dude, in his mid 70s now, was planning on retiring later this year. He is opting to take the deal and now does not have to work until his retirement. Nice work Donald. I suppose we’ll call this another one of his GREAT accomplishments.

  34. White Trash Eddie says:

    I eat Velvet Taco every chance I get, and not just in Dallas.

    Don’t we all. ;)

  35. Libturd says:

    One day after saying that it would stop accepting inbound mail and packages from China and Hong Kong, the U.S. Postal Service said it would resume package delivery from those countries.

    Big Mouth = Miniscule stick (among other things)

  36. Boomer Remover says:

    Like I mentioned earlier, either your propagandacopypasta or the Wired article is wrong.

    I never claimed anyone was writing or inserting code. What I questioned was how someone with previously unrestricted access, can be now be limited access only (for a presumably valid reason). Access is not a physical thing. You can’t put access back, and the act of putting back of that access/thing ensures nothing was stolen.

  37. White Trash Eddie says:

    BTW, Maxine Waters (how old is she?) and a group are trying to storm the Dept. of Ed. and aren’t being let in. Private security is barring them. Strangely, only FOX had cameras there live, CNN and MSNBC did not. One dem pol there said it’s for the children… that’s when I chuckled. We’re currently 40th in the world in reading and math scores and 70% of kids entering high school can’t read, write or do math at the acceptable levels. We pay more per kid than anyone else in the world. Um… need to revamp this deal.

  38. White Trash Eddie says:

    VSG,

    You got any eggs, bro? People are hoarding. Help out a brotha, yo.

  39. Hak Tua, Chief grabs 'em by the pussy says:

    From Tangle News (on Trump Gaza),

    As for this plan’s bright spots, it’s really really hard to find any that don’t just amount to “now Hamas won’t have anything to govern.” I’ve scoured for information and asked members of our editorial staff to look for an answer to this question: What is the best argument in favor of Trump’s plan? These two are the best I’ve got: First, the Middle East needs a bold reimaging of the default set of solutions. Second, Trump doesn’t literally mean what he’s declaring — he’s threatening the Middle East by saying, “If you don’t handle this then I’m going to come in and make it an American resort.”

    Sorry, but that’s not good enough. A bold new plan doesn’t have to be this plan. And “he might be bluffing” doesn’t erase the criticisms of the thing he has said he wants to do. Acting on this idea would be patently immoral and inhumane to the Palestinians; it has a greater chance of hurting the long-term security of Israel than helping; and it would come at the cost of U.S. troops, budget, and diplomatic goodwill.

    Maybe Trump is just negotiating again, like a poker player who has the biggest stack at the table, keeps getting pocket aces, and rushes all-in on his opening bet — but I don’t understand what he’s hoping to gain. I doubt Hamas is going to sign some symbolic gesture to get Trump to go away, like Canada and Mexico did, so now the U.S. is dangerously close to being all-in on Gaza.

    I hope someone in the administration can get Trump to see the brick wall before he runs the country and the region into it face-first, but I don’t foresee that happening without something he can claim victory on — and I don’t know what it will take for Trump to divert course. For now, the plan is still just a plan. All things are subject to change when ideas meet reality, and we are still just talking about things that haven’t happened yet. But by all accounts, things are not about to get better.

  40. Juice Box says:

    re: “underestimated the collective amount of stupid”

    Lib – It’s the women who elected Trump. Kamala could not get their vote. A higher proportion or registered voters are women it been that way for 30 years.

    Last time they voted for Biden this time they voted for Trump. We also know it was not the black or Hispanic women….. It was Karen and her sisters..

  41. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    February 7, 2025 at 10:17 am
    “I underestimated the collective amount of stupid that exists in this country”

    Were the moms that attended the EO signing to protect girls sports from trannies among the ‘stupid’? Did all the smart women vote for SlowJoe, the corrupt hair-sniffer and heels-up Harris? You libs seem to be completely losing touch with reality; every time DJT addresses real problems for law-abiding, tax-paying citizens, more people gravitate to him/R’s because of that. And all you stooges do is call them stupid. It’s really pathetic.

  42. Juice Box says:

    Boomer – don’t believe the hype.

    Rt 4 in Paramus below.

    https://x.com/JamesTate121/status/1887223590967292284

    The Treasury secretary’s order was clear and they were made government employees the two of them and were given background checks and clearances necessary. It was reported in the NY Times…

    “The Musk allies who have been granted access to the payment system were made Treasury employees, passed government background checks and obtained the necessary security clearances, according to two people familiar with the situation, who requested anonymity to discuss internal arrangements. While their access was approved, the Musk representatives have yet to gain operational capabilities and no government payments have been blocked, the people said.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/01/us/politics/elon-musk-doge-federal-payments-system.html

  43. Juice Box says:

    Here is the Treasury Secretary spelling it out. THEY NEVER had access to change the system.

    https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1887632884741075198

  44. Libturd says:

    “protect girls sports from trannies”

    Good. Now I can sleep at night.

  45. Phoenix says:

    Who the Fucc do these cretins think they are? Now these fuccin’ crooked tooth mother fuccers think they should have access to worldwide individual’s documents?

    Every day the Chinese and Russians look like the better empires.

    Security officials in the United Kingdom have demanded that Apple create a back door allowing them to retrieve all the content any Apple user worldwide has uploaded to the cloud, people familiar with the matter told The Washington Post.

    The British government’s undisclosed order, issued last month, requires blanket capability to view fully encrypted material, not merely assistance in cracking a specific account, and has no known precedent in major democracies. Its application would mark a significant defeat for tech companies in their decades-long battle to avoid being wielded as government tools against their users, the people said, speaking under the condition of anonymity to discuss legally and politically sensitive issues.

    Rather than break the security promises it made to its users everywhere, Apple is likely to stop offering encrypted storage in the U.K., the people said. Yet that concession would not fulfill the U.K. demand for backdoor access to the service in other countries, including the United States.

  46. White Trash Eddie says:

    Has anyone here ever blown a tranny?

  47. Phoenix says:

    Should have let the Gemans pound those British rats into the ground during WW2.

  48. Phoenix says:

    Germans.

  49. Libturd says:

    Smalls,

    So what’s your timeline for the invasion of Canada, Panama, Greenland (and Denmark of course), Mexico (so there’s less confusion over what the body of water is named) and of course Gaza?

    crickets.

  50. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    February 7, 2025 at 11:30 am
    “what’s your timeline for the invasion of Canada…”

    Joe’s Wars = Russia v Ukraine, Hamas v Israel, Hezbollah v Israel, Houthis v Israel+

    DJT’s Wars = Zero, zilch, zip

  51. Libturd says:

    And the Ukraine peace that is now three weeks overdue?

    crickets

  52. Boomer Remover says:

    I’m looking though this X account you shared. How do you even come across this stuff? It’s like conservative p*rn without the genitals.

  53. Juice Box says:

    You forgot about the Iran and Israel direct confrontations. They haven’t lobbed any missiles at each other in a few months but it is bound to heat up again.

    What did Kamala say? “don’t”

  54. Libturd says:

    Seriously, it’s early. 95% of what Trump has done is all show and no impact. I really do like the concept of DOGE. I just worry about the methodology and the loonies he’s appointed to most cabinet positions. If there’s any saving grace, it’s that I doubt he lets any of them actually do anything without personally approving, and quite frankly, he’s not known to listen to anyone anyway. Time will tell.

  55. LAX says:

    11:36 we just alienated our ally to the north. Canada.
    Dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Wars?

  56. Libturd says:

    So is blaming any of the Israeli conflicts on Biden.

  57. LAX says:

    Incredibly stupid. I’m beyond finished with morons.

  58. RentL0rd says:

    Fast 8:51,

    How do you impeach a dictator? Too late

  59. Phoenix says:

    Just send our Karens to Canada.

    They will surrender in minutes.

  60. RentL0rd says:

    Juice 8:59 >> You think that the rage at America you speak of will last until the election?

    Do you think the Turd will kick the bucket before then? Doubt it? So no. The rage will only grow. I’m sure someone in Canada will capitalize on this uniquely unifying Canadian moment.

    Also 10:37 >> It’s the women who elected Trump. Kamala could not get their vote. A higher proportion or registered voters are women it been that way for 30 years.

    Women – and most minorities, were misled in this election by foreign interference and massive disinformation.

    In hindsight, to these groups, Kamala Harris is an angel compared to the dictator we have in place.

  61. Phoenix says:

    Of course Biden likes wars.

    His buddies in Scranton make money from producing artillery shells.

    Hair sniffer, back scratcher.

  62. SmallGovConservative says:

    LAX says:
    February 7, 2025 at 12:33 pm
    “we just alienated our ally to the north”

    Is that the place that’s led by feckless Justin Clouseau, the guy that wore black-face while he was a teacher ? The place that has happily allowed itself to be used as a North American entryway for people that want to illegally get to the US? They haven’t produced anything worthwhile since SCTV 50 years ago, when they used to be funny and not self-righteous. DJT’s only bad idea so far is wanting to make that leftist wasteland the 51st state; give me the hearty Greenlanders any day.

  63. Phoenix says:

    Women – and most minorities, were misled in this election by foreign interference and massive disinformation.

    No, women were misled cause most of them are too busy thinking about purses, money, and vacations.

    Other than that there is no real thought process going on for the majority of them.

  64. Phoenix says:

    Oooh, snap!

    SmallGovConservative says:
    February 7, 2025 at 1:20 pm

    Is that the place that’s led by feckless Justin Clouseau, the guy that wore black-face while he was a teacher ? The place that has happily allowed itself to be used as a North American entryway for people that want to illegally get to the US? They haven’t produced anything worthwhile since SCTV 50 years ago, when they used to be funny and not self-righteous. DJT’s only bad idea so far is wanting to make that leftist wasteland the 51st state; give me the hearty Greenlanders any day.

  65. Fabius Maximus says:

    Hey Gary, remember your outrage? https://njrereport.com/index.php/2021/10/15/green-shoots/#comment-1222348

    Will we see the same for this?

    https://x.com/TristanSnell/status/1887692587924136024
    Tristan Snell @TristanSnell
    BREAKING – Kash Patel has stake in Chinese slave labor company, via Caymans holding company
    He REFUSES to divest – and he may have LIED on disclosure forms about it
    Marco Rubio + other Trumpers RIPPED this same Chinese co, Shein, for using Uyghurs as slaves – and dodging taxes

  66. Phoenix says:

    Hey,
    Don’t be dissin’ Schein.

    American like to have closet after closet full of clothing to wear. It goes to their core substance, that appearance matters.
    The one without a closet full of clothes, that one is marriage material.

  67. Phoenix says:

    Drink with me to days gone by
    Sing with me the songs we knew
    Here’s to pretty girls who went to our heads
    Here’s to witty girls who went to our beds
    Here’s to them and here’s to you!
    Drink with me to days gone by
    To the life that used to be
    At the shrine of friendship, never say die
    Let the wine of friendship never run dry
    Drink with me to days gone by
    To the life that used to be
    At the shrine of friendship, never say die
    Let the wine of friendship never run dry
    Here’s to you
    And here’s To me

  68. Phoenix says:

    They say
    The price of my war’s not a price that they are willing to pay
    Insane
    You cheat with the French
    Now I’m fighting with France and with Spain
    I’m so blue
    I thought that we made an arrangement when you went away
    You were mine to subdue
    When even despite our estrangement
    I’ve got a small query for you

    What comes next?
    You’ve been freed
    Do you know how hard it is to lead?
    You’re on your own
    Awesome, wow!
    Do you have a clue what happens now?
    Oceans rise
    Empires fall
    It’s much harder when it’s all your call
    All alone, across the sea
    When your people say they hate you
    Don’t come crawling back to me
    Da da da dat da dat da da da ya da
    Da da dat da da ya da!
    You’re on your own

  69. Hold my beer says:

    Y’all a bunch of dirty old men

    https://www.velvettaco.com/location/greenville/

  70. LAX says:

    1:20 dude. Shut up. Please. You are dumber than dog shit .

  71. chicagofinance says:

    “Justin Clouseau” LOL

    SmallGovConservative says:
    February 7, 2025 at 1:20 pm
    Justin Clouseau, the guy that wore black-face while he was a teacher ?

  72. chicagofinance says:

    chicagofinance says:
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    February 7, 2025 at 3:15 pm
    jj Lives (ultimate jj all-time):

    Randy astronauts may find themselves in need of a little s5xual relief while touring the galaxy.

    But when a rocket man can no longer keep those inner passions pinned up, the release of his bodily fluids in zero-gravity makes some out-of-this-world motion, so say a set of scientists.

    “Let’s talk about spunk,” said sexpert Esme Louise James, per a trending TikTok. “In space,” added astrophysicist Matthew Agnew in the collaboration clip dedicated to space cadets and etaculation.

    Talking about getting freaky in the final frontier is a dirty job — but someone’s got to do it.

    Due to technical issues on the aircraft — a Boeing Starliner spacecraft, which launched for what was meant to be an eight-day trip in June 2024 — the twosome is now stranded in the great beyond, indefinitely.

    Since the mishap, social media savages have speculated that the astronauts have engaged in naughty behavior to pass the time.

    In the months since Williams and Willmore’s ill-fated launch, internet trolls have openly wondered if the pair are engaging in any s5xual activities.

    And while solar system insiders claim that interstellar intercourse is “not impossible,” the pros say it would be difficult to enjoy “the do” due to a lack of stability in the high skies.

    But, should a male moonwalker find some time for a little self-pleasure, James and Agnew say the outcomes of an outer space orgasm are otherworldly.

    “What would happen if a man’s rocket blasted off in space?” pondered James in the NSFW NASA-inspired video. The eye-popping post amassed over 24,000 views.

    “When a man exaculates in the vacuum of space, how fast backwards is he propelled?” asked Agnew before he and James revealed the goopy answer via the “conservation of momentum.”

    It’s a fundamental concept of physics, according to NASA. (Note: The National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s code of ethics does not explicitly address sex or mast0rbation in outer space.)

    Relying on the conservation of momentum, James and Agnew multiplied the average mass and velocity of an average man’s e-x-aculate to determine its motion in outer space.

    The concept states that the total momentum of two or more bodies in a system will remain the same, said Agnew.

    “This means that the mass multiplied by the velocity of the ejaculated will equal the mass multiplied by the velocity of the man,” continued the astro-know-it-all.

    And to prove that he wasn’t just jerking viewers around, Agnew and James did the man-juice math.

    The academic duo calculated the average volume of “space spunk,” approximately one teaspoon, as well as its density, one gram, and the average speed of e-x-aculation, which they found to be 45 kilometers per hour.

    The specialists revealed that the release of an astronaut’s ejaculate moves about as fast as a garden snail.

    After multiplying the density by volume to find the mass, Agnew and James multiplied the mass by the velocity.

    “And that gives us the momentum of the ejaculate,” Agnew announced with pride.

    “So let’s say the average man weighs [155 pounds],” he said. “This means the velocity must equal 0.000562 [meters-per-second].”

    Thankfully, James put their funky-spunky finding in layman’s terms.

    “This means our astronaut who has blasted off in the vacuum of space is now traveling backwards at two meters-per-hour,” she said.

    “It’s about the speed of an average garden snail,” said Agnew — which travels at around one meter per hour.

    “So if you ever find yourself in the vacuum of space and you want to use e-x-aculate as propellant,” he warned, “you’re not going to be moving very quickly.”

  73. LAX says:

    3:10 I would think that single act alone would endear him to the “right”…

  74. RentL0rd says:

    Vance says “the kid” needs to be rehired!

    This is not the Vance I met in person several years ago.

  75. Very Stable Genius says:

    BREAKING!

    UPDATED FRI, FEB 7 20254:08 PM EST

    Dow closes 400 points lower Friday as inflation and tariff fears spur a sell-off:

    Live updates
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  76. Very Stable Genius says:

    The political strategy is becoming clearer….

    Light small fires….let them exhaust their outrage energy and credibility on those small fires….

    Then when the big ones arrive, either they have no energy left…or equally….no credibility left….

    Plan accordingly

  77. Phoenix says:

    LAX,
    Other than that no real thought process going on for the majority of them:

    An Essex County jury has handed down a $11.5 million verdict against a New Jersey State Police trooper who mistook a motorist’s stroke for inebriation and arrested her, delaying medical treatment so long she’s now permanently disabled.

    Cheryl Rhines of Jersey City was on her way to work in October 2017 when she began feeling ill and pulled to the shoulder of a highway in Newark, according to the lawsuit her mother later filed.

    The responding state trooper, Jennifer Albuja, misinterpreted Rhines’ failure to respond to commands, communicate coherently, or stand upright as intoxication — even though Albuja found no smell or sign of substance use and Rhines had facial drooping and other signs of a stroke, was dressed in business attire at 8 a.m. on a weekday, and had no prior offenses, her lawsuit says.

    Albuja failed to get Rhines treatment at a hospital 5 minutes away and instead searched her car and hauled her, handcuffed, to the state police’s Somerville station, delaying treatment by two and half hours, according to the complaint.

    A sergeant at the station finally called EMTs, but troopers still left Rhines shackled on the floor even after they determined she was in medical distress, her attorney, Dennis M. Donnelly, told the New Jersey Monitor.

    “I don’t think the jury liked that much,” he said.

    Donnelly attributed the botched police response to state troopers’ “us-versus-them militaristic mentality,” saying they approach their job as warriors instead of guardians.

    “They see everybody in the public as a danger,” Donnelly said. “They treated this woman like she was a criminal when she was helpless.”

  78. Phoenix says:

    Cheeep Skates.

    The case went through remediation, but the state’s attorneys refused to resolve the case for more than $1 million — and Rhines’ care expenses had exceeded that, Donnelly said.

  79. LAX says:

    125K sign petition demanding LA Mayor Karen Bass resign over fire response

  80. BRT says:

    I had to stop at that Somerville State Police Station once for business. Place looks like a prison.

  81. RentL0rd says:

    Genius 4:25,

    Spot on.

    It’s exhausting and it’s not even a month

  82. Very Stable Genius says:

    Proud boys and Putin will perpetrate a massive Timothy McVeigh event and maga will blame antifa.

    it will lead to suspension of Habeas Corpus

  83. hughesrep says:

    Kid Rock and Ted Nugent to headline next Kennedy Center Honors.

  84. Phoenix says:

    Apparently according to the employees there it is also a State Certified Stroke Emergency Center.

    Got a problem, like a stroke, call a cop. Now you have two problems.

    BRT says:
    February 7, 2025 at 5:55 pm
    I had to stop at that Somerville State Police Station once for business. Place looks like a prison.

  85. Phoenix says:

    NJ is on a streak with it’s public employees. Where is the hero to drain the swamp in this state?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/1iducjn/married_nj_police_officers_charged_with_having/

  86. RentL0rd says:

    When the country is drained, there’s nothing left of the states to be drained.

    NIH announces all EXISTING grant funding will be reduced from 50% to 15% to all colleges. Imagine what that does to higher education and research. This, announced at 6pm on a Friday.

    And to mask that fire, he lit another fire that will take up the news cycle, he revoked President Joe Biden’s security clearance.

    The strategy for taking over america seems to be pretty well planned this time. He has 2 years to take over and cut off all democratic checks and balances.. and seems to be doing it faster than Hitler did in 53 days.

  87. RentL0rd says:

    Phoenix, don’t get distracted by sex. There are bigger things at play here.

  88. Phoenix says:

    Major: Criminal Justice.

    I was thinking more along the line of attempted murderer.

    https://njcugothicknights.com/sports/womens-soccer/roster/jennifer-albuja/1843

  89. Phoenix says:

    Oh, but then again, I don’t know anything about law.

    I admit that. I think its actually ok based on law.

    Hey we have a current president that is probably a criminal, and a recently past one that is the probably the same.

    As you can tell, I don’t have faith in our legal system. Should I?

  90. BRT says:

    NIH announces all EXISTING grant funding will be reduced from 50% to 15% to all colleges. Imagine what that does to higher education and research. This, announced at 6pm on a Friday.

    I was on NIH grant for 5 years. What it likely means is no more paid vacations to Europe for conferences for all your university professors. It also means that the liberal arts departments will have a harder time siphoning off those grants that they had no business doing so in the first place.

  91. Very Stable Genius says:

    false flag

    “ In September 1999, a series of explosions hit four apartment blocks in the Russian cities of Buynaksk, Moscow, and Volgodonsk, killing more than 300, injuring more than 1,000, and spreading a wave of fear across the country. The bombings, together with the Invasion of Dagestan, triggered the Second Chechen War.[1][2] The handling of the crisis by Vladimir Putin, who was prime minister at the time, boosted his popularity greatly and helped him attain the presidency within a few months.”

    “ Although the bombings were widely blamed on Chechen terrorists, their guilt was never conclusively proven.[14] A number of historians and investigative journalists have instead called the bombings a false flag attack perpetrated by Russian state security services to win public support for a new war in Chechnya and to boost the popularity of Vladimir Putin prior to the upcoming presidential elections.”

  92. RentL0rd says:

    BRT, you know better than that. Stop watching FauxNews.

    NIH grants don’t fund vacations—they fund life-saving research on cancer, Alzheimer’s, and countless other diseases. And as for liberal arts departments “siphoning” money, NIH funding is strictly for biomedical research, not humanities.

    Cutting NIH funding wouldn’t just hurt universities—it would slow down drug development, medical innovation, and public health progress, making treatments more expensive and delaying breakthroughs that could save lives. This isn’t about professors going to Europe—it’s about whether the U.S. stays a leader in medical research or falls behind.

  93. Fast Eddie says:

    A convicted felon revoked slo joes security clearance.

    LMAO!

  94. RentL0rd says:

    I know of a leading surgeon and a couple of doctors, who in their ealier days as poor grad students depended in NIB funding for their research.

    They wouldn’t be where they are now without that “seed” funding in their younger poorer lives.

  95. Fast Eddie says:

    The strategy for taking over america seems to be pretty well planned this time. He has 2 years to take over and cut off all democratic checks and balances.. and seems to be doing it faster than Hitler did in 53 days.

    So, he’s a very stable evil genius. He probably ordered Musk to complete that death ray before the midterms.

  96. Juice Box says:

    Just want to remind everyone why we don’t see cheap Chinese electric cars on our streets while in Europe the Chinese made electrics are 25% of sales and climbing. This was before Elon got involved in EU politics. Trump put a 27.5% tariff on the sale price of Chinese vehicles when they arrive at US ports, this was done during his first administration and Biden wisely kept the tariffs in place.

    The world’s richest man has allot to lose by getting involved in politics. I really don’t think he cares or has some other sinister motive. Does taking a chainsaw to government Bureaucracy and spending work? I think we are about to find out.

  97. BRT says:

    Yeah, I’m so glad they cured Alzheimer’s. I was on the NIH grant, what would I know…..90 percent of that money is wasted.

  98. Juice Box says:

    Let’s be clear here. indirect costs — administrative, facility, and other expenses not directly linked to the goals of a scientific project — with funds that averaged at around 27% of the cost of a research grant. Going forward, the rate of support will now be 15% for new and existing grants. The cut is a major blow to the nation’s most elite research universities, which often get a rate of more than 50% to cover indirect costs.

    $35 billion NIH spent on research grants during the 2023 fiscal year, $9 billion went to indirect costs. The post noted that the change would save the government around $4 billion a year.

  99. RdntL0rd says:

    Juice 8:55

    >> The world’s richest man has allot to lose by getting involved in politics.

    You seem to have no idea how Megalomaniacs work. And he is the 2nd richest, not #1. He has a lot to gain.. as is already evident. Putin has far more assets.

    Why do you guys barf this nonsense? Oh wait, it’s Juice. He enjoys provication and has no conviction in anything he says.

  100. Juice Box says:

    Here comes the Lawfare….On a Saturday morning a SDNY Judge puts a stop to the executive branch down in Washington DC.

    “order bars access from being granted to Treasury Department payment and data systems by political appointees, special government employees and government employees detailed from an agency outside the Treasury Department.”

    I guess they will have to get slapped down too…the order itself sounds illegal. The Treasury Secretary himself is a political appointee, the Treasury Dept payment and data systems are infact accessed all the time by government employees outside the State Dept. Those depts have to access it to submit bills etc. for payment.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/us-judge-blocks-musk-accessing-133853146.html

  101. Hughesrep says:

    The president ordered that all foreign assistance to South Africa be halted and said his administration would prioritize the resettling of white, “Afrikaner refugees” into the United States.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/07/us/politics/trump-south-africa-aid-white-landowners.html

    I for one am shocked.

  102. Juice Box says:

    rent: – Adolf Hitler, Genghis Khan, Napoleon etc…. Elon does not rank with them. Remember what he said if Harris had won they were coming after him. I don’t doubt that for a second. Heck Maduro wants him dead for sure, and probably a few others.

    Lots of pissed off Politicians in the EU, he dares to tweet at them. The horror of not controlling social media….EU regulators ruled that X breached European Union online content rules and its blue checkmark deceives users. EU’s Digital Services Act, or DSA. You can expect they will shut x.com down unfortunaly not as fast as Xi Jinping can and has silenced critics, there will be at least a court battle in the EU no secret police yet raiding offices and chaining then closed while arresting everyone and sending them off for “re-education.”

  103. JamesJesusAngletonsGhost SpinningInGrave says:

    LordTurd Musk loyalty are 1)Future TechLord Highness Hugo Drax. 2)King OrangeTurd as long as he id allowed to do whatever he wants 3)CCP – Xi Ping as he has a lot depending on China and he’s hedging his bets in case the Confederacy States of America under Trump bible fizzles out.

    Big danger with LordTurd Musk’s little DOGE turd is that they are nerd incels which makes them easy picking for honey pots. Rest assured that those boys are going to be hit hard by the most beautiful women and men (odds some are gays) that any intelligence service has to hook them in.

  104. RentL0rd says:

    Juice, Why don’t you shut up when you have no clue what you are talking about. You are like any other guy that Trump hires. No real experience but a loud mouth.

    Hughes – we all know where Musk comes from and his stance on white supremacy. He is an insecure megalomaniac in the truest sense.

  105. JamesJesusAngletonsGhost SpinningInGrave says:

    The main reason you can’t trust LordTurd Musk completely is that he’s an adult immigrant to this country. His morals and personal values were set outside of this country- Apartheid South Africa. Those values are his internal moral compass.

    An exemption to an adult immigrant that was trusted is someone like Henry Kissinger. Why? Where was he going to go in post WW2 Germany as an intellectual Jewish person. He only had one choice.

    PS. Now that anti-terror and counter-intelligence squads in the FBI have been made smaller, expect lots of terror driven events.

  106. Fast Eddie says:

    10:03,

    That was tough to read. Your thoughts seem a bit frazzled. You may want to use Gemini to clean that up.

  107. RentL0rd says:

    10:03, you don’t have to go so far down to the incels. The top brass itself is completely compromised.

  108. Chicago says:

    Why would you question BRT’s observation? He was on the ground at Rutgers, you weren’t. Just because he refers to something that is out of step with your views doesn’t make him a drone.

    RentL0rd says:
    February 8, 2025 at 8:40 am
    BRT, you know better than that. Stop watching FauxNews.

    NIH grants don’t fund vacations—they fund life-saving research on cancer, Alzheimer’s, and countless other diseases. And as for liberal arts departments “siphoning” money, NIH funding is strictly for biomedical research, not humanities.

    Cutting NIH funding wouldn’t just hurt universities—it would slow down drug development, medical innovation, and public health progress, making treatments more expensive and delaying breakthroughs that could save lives. This isn’t about professors going to Europe—it’s about whether the U.S. stays a leader in medical research or falls behind.

  109. Chicago says:

    Lord: yeah I agree that Juice has sounded a bit more rightward in the last few months (maybe he always was and was not as forward with it). However, he is one of the most consistently knowledgeable and wide ranging posters on these threads. At a minimum, you should at least think through whatever point his is offering. I’m sure it’s not done lightly.

  110. JamesJesusAngletonsGhost SpinningInGrave says:

    Regarding South African white refugees. I remember seeing ~5yrs ago in one of the On Demand streamers a documentary about it.

    When the ANC took power the roles were reversed with the same passionate hatred as before. So whites were fired, license revoked, businesses closed. In the documentary you see a lot of homeless white people living in shantytown and scraping garbage. They’ll fit right in West Virginia.

  111. Juice Box says:

    Rent – Are we back here again… where you throw tantrums? A rude and impolite little man who needs a time out.

  112. RentL0rd says:

    To side with musk or give him an excuse in this dark moment of history is almost treasonous and totally irresponsible.

    I will leave it at that. Call me rude, that’s an honor.

  113. LAX says:

    10:29 most knowledgeable poster on the board somehow can’t spell “a lot”…,

  114. Juice Box says:

    People that use Henry Kissinger as a example of anything really aren’t well traveled and have simply have not read enough about what was done when he was Secretary of State.

    Bourdain famously wrote, “Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands … and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.”

    War crimes countless civilian deaths. 500,000 tons of bombs dropped on 113,716 targets in the country, and a really unknown number of deaths. I don’t need to go on about his other crimes, around the globe there are plenty. Simply put there is a reason why Kissinger was persona non grata and had to avoided going to Europe for fear of arrest.

    How about read Christopher Hitchens book before you mention him again and compare him with Elon.

    https://www.amazon.com/Trial-Henry-Kissinger-Christopher-Hitchens/dp/1859846319

  115. LAX says:

    Looook at the biiiiig brain on juice box.

  116. Juice Box says:

    Chi – Next time you are in Whole Foods in the Summer look around, you can find me by my leg sleeve.

    https://ibb.co/67JTWrdD

    I don’t blame them for calling me “rightward”. They are after all slaves to the politicians and media who plant fear and loathing in their minds, especially when things are not as they seem in the news. Like the latest histrionics from both our politicians and media over the executive branch exercising it’s power as mandated in the constitution. There was never a law creating USAID and frankly our government giving a company in Ireland known as Ceiliuradh in County Kerry money to produce live shows and tv content is really over the top. Especially stuff people in Ireland never heard about. Without making a song and dance about it the money was as BRT says completely wasted.

    Is there actually waste in our government. Absolutely yes… Lets say it’s only 5%..Do we need to take a chainsaw to the various federal government agencies to get to that 5% ? Sadly I believe there is no other way… bureaucracy and red tape will always win out, and if that does not work they will do what they are now Lawfare to try to run out the clock in court.

  117. JUice Box says:

    Asked and Answered….Lol

    president told The New York Post Friday that he isn’t interested in throwing Harry out of the country.

    “I don’t want to do that,” he said. “I’ll leave him alone. He’s got enough problems with his wife. She’s terrible.”

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/08/us-news/trump-rules-out-deporting-prince-harry-takes-jab-at-meghan-markle/

  118. Very Stable Genius says:

    Didn’t think he was maga but maybe you are now confirming it

    Chicago says:
    February 8, 2025 at 10:29 am
    Lord: yeah I agree that Juice has sounded a bit more rightward in the last few months (maybe he always was and was not as forward with it). However, he is one of the most consistently knowledgeable and wide ranging posters on these threads. At a minimum, you should at least think through whatever point his is offering. I’m sure it’s not done lightly.

  119. Very Stable Genius says:

    waste is in military industrial complex and universal socialist big government healthcare for boomers.

    everything else is a drop in a bucket, right-wing propaganda

  120. BRT says:

    It’s more than 5%. In schools, at the municipal level, it’s probably 15% waste.

  121. Very Stable Genius says:

    The F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter is the Department of Defense’s most ambitious weapons program and plays a crucial role in DOD’s ability to meet current and future U.S. national security goals. At the same time, the F-35 has been plagued by mounting costs and delays resulting in what some have called a staggering price tag of more than $2 trillion

  122. Chicago says:

    The problem with government (at all levels) is the capture of decision making authority by parasites who wander the line between public authority and private for profit companies. These people are in DC lobbyists, in NJ towns, the part time counsel lawyers, accountants and business administrators.

    These scum know nothing about making rain. About growing anything. Improving anything. The pie is finite, and they try to cut as many pieces as they can for themselves.

    They assume a revenue lines. They don’t understand how to build enterprises, just siphon off resources.

  123. Phoenix says:

    Chicago says:
    February 8, 2025 at 10:24 am
    Why would you question BRT’s observation? He was on the ground at Rutgers, you weren’t. Just because he refers to something that is out of step with your views doesn’t make him a drone.

    Just like your post above, there is always going to be grifters where there is a pot of money. Question is whether or not you get enough of what you need from the money you spent after the grifters take their cut.

    Only way to eliminate them is with bullets or hanging.

    Not gonna happen.

  124. Phoenix says:

    Court system in America is absolute garbage, with money grubbing attorneys, lazy government lawyers, and so inefficient that guys like Trump know they can do all the illegal shit they want and that “the system” won’t be able to touch him before he takes his last breath as they move at the speed of an injured sloth.

    The damage is done.

    Civil war will be coming to America soon enough. Oh, and don’t blame Russia or China, this is self-inflicted. Your masters are preparing and gathering the technology and laws that will be used to control every last bit of your child’s life in the future.

  125. Very Stable Genius says:

    BREAKING NEWS!

    President Trump on Friday directed government officials to prioritize the resettlement of South Africans of European descent through the U.S. refugee program, which he suspended during his first day in office.

  126. Very Stable Genius says:

    CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA —
    Groups representing some of South Africa’s white minority responded Saturday to a plan by President Donald Trump to offer them refugee status and resettlement in the United States

  127. RentL0rd says:

    Stable,
    Add to that cutting out USAID to South Africa that helps AIDS victims among predominantly black South Africans.

    The whole waste cutting is also bogus. From a post elsewhere –


    Federal employee payroll makes up 4% of the federal budget. Even if you let go 1 in 4, which would knee-cap federal operations, that’d recover 1%. USAID accounts for less than 1% of the federal budget, and abdicates soft-power to China if dismantled entirely.

    Deficit spending is nearly 30% of the federal budget. There’s no fix that doesn’t involve tax increases. That will become evident in upcoming budget negotiations in Congress.

  128. RentL0rd says:

    Musk wants segregation back.

    Afrikaners say no thanks!

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-south-africa-afrikaners-0120efec17122b47e3371e0e39fe1db8

    Is this really 2025?!

    Last weekend I was talking to a Jewish lady going back to SA after 35 years to visit family. I asked her what kept her from seeing them and she said, I see most family on my visits to Israel where they meet.

    And i followed up with – so why doesn’t your family just move to Israel, and she said “well, not everyone is a zionist. They like it in SA”.

    She is right now in SA visiting. Oh, she voted for Kamal Harris by the way.

    While she is not an Afrikaner, the sentiment is the same as in the article.

    Trump and Musk are causing divisions wherever possible. “Divide and Conquer” is such an age old model.

  129. Juice Box says:

    The whole waste cutting is also bogus –

    Get them under oath..money to the Taliban? Money to Hamas? Who else we funding?

    https://x.com/RepTimBurchett/status/1876294194941292842

  130. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Perfectly stated.

    “a house is a bad investment but it’s obviously an investment

    and for most people it’s actually a great investment because they get 5x leverage on money that would have otherwise gone entirely to marginal consumption”

  131. Juice Box says:

    LOL…FYI – not allowed to enter the U.S. attorney’s offices for SDNY…

    banned : “Access classified information or enter federal facilities”

    The list includes:

    Biden’s Secretary of State Antony Blinken
    New York Attorney General Letitia James
    Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg
    former national security adviser Jake Sulivan
    Biden’s deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco
    Lawyers Andrew Weismann, Mark Zaid and Norm Eisen

    FYI – not allowed to enter the U.S. attorney’s offices for SDNY…

  132. Juice Box says:

    We all know Trump is not done.

    He will overstep. Lawsuits will be filed.

    Only people that can legally stop him are well the House with Impeachment and the Senate with a Trial and conviction. Did not work the first two times…..

    Is the third time a charm as they say?

  133. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I love what Musk is doing. Saving America. Trying to light the spark and keep up competitive with rising powers. My only fear, I hope he doesn’t trigger a recession with his cuts. We will see.

    BTW, if you aren’t buying meme coins like GIGA/WIF/ BONK….i don’t know what to tell you. You don’t like making money. Real crypto bull hasn’t even started…expecting a very good year for high risk as liquidity picks up as rates lower (trump wants it). Govt is super friendly to crypto and wants USA to become a world leader. Brother the writing is on the wall. See ya at Valhalla. What a time to be an investor. Roaring 20s 2.0 for the win!

  134. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And please don’t yell scam or ponzi. Chit crypto = penny stocks. Is the stock market a scam because of penny stocks? As for ponzi, what asset under capitalism isn’t in the end? Look at stock market; we left fundamentals a long time ago. It’s market psychology that drives it. They will overly punish anything in the short term and overvalue anything on the long term. Aka the safest investments will get significantly overvalued and value stocks are pretty much dead. That’s how i see it for now…this decade is about high risk….why? Massive change. Revolutionary environment. You don’t play with value in this environment…this environment awards the winners of high risk tech driven innovation.

  135. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why is tesla overvalued based on dino fundamental analysis….because tesla is innovative. They will be standing 10 years from now after the smoke has cleared from this revolutionary environment that will kill a lot of companies.

  136. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Pumpkin free analysis….always sounds crazy, but most of the time is correct. Enjoy the super bowl guys! Feeling a little nostalgic…miss terrorizing this place like a chinese spam bot.

  137. RentL0rd says:

    Tesla, you say?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/06/trump-administration-ev-charger-program-00203011

    I don’t understand this steategy other than add confusion to existing chaos.

  138. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Tesla is an innovative company no matter how what you think…evaluation says so. I don’t make the rules. You can argue the market is wrong, and bet against it. I would never ever bet against musk. We are lucky he is American and mot not chinese. Guy has accomplished more than most current human beings alive (combined).

  139. RentL0rd says:

    Pumps, read the article in the link.

    What do you think that does to Tesla and the EV market?

    60% fall in European sales of Tesla

    Tesla had its day.

  140. BRT says:

    Fitting tweet from the NIH yesterday

    @NIH
    Last year, $9B of the $35B that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) granted for research was used for administrative overhead, what is known as “indirect costs.” Today, NIH lowered the maximum indirect cost rate research institutions can charge the government to 15%, above what many major foundations allow and much lower than the 60%+ that some institutions charge the government today. This change will save more than $4B a year effective immediately.

    Funny, I thought charging students $50k a year shoulda covered all that crap.

  141. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Rent,

    It’s cult lefty mindsets that are mad at musk when they once worshipped him. I have backed this guy during both periods of hate from the left (current) and right (past). He’s the real deal. He gets chit done.

    Remember, a long time ago, I stated that (from a teacher’s managerial experience with demographics) no matter where you work…20% are carrying the 80% in my critique of WFH. Look at twitter. Musk took it over, cut 80% of workforce….now it is still running and profitable. The guy is amazing. Let him work his magic on our govt. we are lucky he is doing this for free!! F’ing think about it…guy is doing a high cost consulting job for free and people like you are pissed off. Weird take.

    Now go be a man and buy some GIGA while growing a pair of Balls.

  142. RentL0rd says:

    BRT, tuition will now be $100k /yr. So much greatness.

    Pumps, Musk is a genius, no doubt.

    There were/are other geniuses before him. Napolean, Caesar, Stalin, Hitler, Idi Amin, Saddam Hussain and Bin Laden

    We don’t want to live in a bird like twitter. It’s a hate mongering, spammy tool devoid of any social connection.

  143. BRT says:

    You know…these universities reject hundreds of thousands of qualified kids from attending. There’s plenty of opportunity to get more cash. Speaking of cash, have you seen the size of their endowments?

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