Philly doing any better? Nah.

From the Philly Inquirer:

Regional home sales up, but still lag

The real estate market in the eight-county Philadelphia region thawed its way out of a disappointing winter and into a sunnier spring in 2014’s second quarter, but sales still lagged the same period of a more hopeful 2013.

Using data from the Trend Multiple Listing Service, the Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Fox & Roach HomExpert Market Report shows second-quarter sales regionwide running 6.6 percent below the same period in 2013 – 14,795 vs. 15,844.

Year over year, prices were basically flat, the report indicates, with the average price just 0.3 percent higher than in March to June 2013 – $264,842 compared with $264,000.

Median price – half the homes sold for more, half for less – was just 0.5 percent higher, $221,000 in this year’s second quarter vs. $220,000 last year.

Joseph Scott McArdle, a BHHS Fox & Roach agent who focuses on the Chester County market, said the second quarter was “filled with ‘make up for lost time.’ ”

“When the weather finally cooperated, [buyers] seemed to come out in droves,” McArdle said. Among the things he noticed during the second quarter was that “for the first time in seven years, buyers no longer have the fear of continued falling prices.”

Apparently reflecting a more realistic approach by sellers, asking price improved vs. sale price in the second quarter. On average, the data show, sale price was 92 percent to 97 percent of asking price, depending on the number of homes on the market and traditional factors such as location and school district.

The second quarter’s for-sale inventory, 42,014 houses, was about 600 fewer than in the same period last year, the data show – well below normal numbers for the peak spring selling season.

But continuing short supply – which local agents called a major stumbling block to the market’s recovery – resulted in dramatically quicker sales. Average days on market were down 34.5 percent, to 76 days this year from 116 in 2013’s second quarter.

“The recovery, such as it is, remains a highly local phenomenon,” said economist Kevin C. Gillen, senior research consultant at the University of Pennsylvania’s Fels Institute of Government who tracks the area housing market.

“Some segments are racing forward at breakneck speed, while others have been stuck in neutral for several years,” Gillen said. “Until price appreciation and sales activity become more geographically and demographically widespread, we cannot claim the region’s housing market is in full recovery.”

In the second quarter, sales fell in every county but Camden (up 0.6 percent) and Gloucester (up a more solid 4.3 percent), the data show.

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157 Responses to Philly doing any better? Nah.

  1. grim says:

    From CNBC:

    The biggest economic risk? You may be living in it

    As a spate of housing data are released in the coming week, Wall Street will attempt to answer a burning question: Is the housing market becoming a big drag on economic growth?

    “We are laser-focused on this housing data coming out, because we have seen that the backbone of the recovery was housing. Now it’s faltering slightly. So if we see another mishap here, maybe that adds to the slowing global growth—especially domestically,” said Jeff Kilburg, chief executive of KKM Financial.

    The data start to emerge on Monday morning, when the National Association of Home Builders releases the latest reading on its housing market sentiment index. That widely watched gauge of the housing market rose to a six-month high in July, but is still down on the year.

    On Tuesday, the all-important housing starts number will reveal how many residential buildings began construction in July. The July number will follow a big disappointment from June, when 893,000 homes were started on a seasonally adjusted annualized basis—a nine-month low.

    Thursday’s existing home sales data will round out the week.

    Recent indicators have not squelched concerns about housing. On Wednesday, the Mortgage Bankers Association reported applications to buy a house fell to a six-month low in the week prior.

    Still, there are some reasons for optimism. According to Freddie Mac, 30-year mortgage rates have fallen to just 4.12 percent, which brings it back to its lowest levels on the year.

  2. Fast Eddie says:

    Apologies for sullying the post so early buy this needs to be repeated:

    Per Ben’s post from last night:

    Any new teaching methods that have gained traction within education circles in this country are complete gimmicks and people juke their grades to make it seem like it works.

    Bottom line, students from Europe and Asia that are the same age as our students can run circles around our students. There’s something wrong with that. Our education system is weak comparatively speaking and you cannot use the amount of HW kids get as evidence that they work hard or even have to work harder than a previous generation.

    A. Most of it is busy work
    B. Most of the time, the parents end up doing it for the kids.

  3. The FK pipeline is still stuffed.

    The bad mortgage-backed paper is still bad.

    Years worth of future demand pulled forward by Clunkers-for-Houses and other inane come-ons.

    Boomerang commercial RE collapse still in the offing. Coldwater Creek, anyone?

    50-100 years in the wilderness. The market always prevails.

  4. gary (2)-

    Educated people are thinking people. Thinking people question the gubmint.

    The gubmint wants non-thinking, subservient sheep. Therefore, skools will continue to suck.

    Want fries with that?

  5. Fast Eddie says:

    Meat,

    Your quote from yesterday addressed to either Michael or Anon knocked me out of my chair. You basically finished your post by saying, “Go fcuk your mother.” I almost died laughing.

    I swear, you most own 7 out of 10 of the all time quips ever posted on this blog.

    I’m going to work.

  6. anon (the good one) says:

    Gary,

    c’mon, you are such a coward. You really need Clot’s cover to go insulting around?
    what a sissy

  7. anon (the good one) says:

    Gary,

    from yesterday, grandfather and father were national figures already at the time, that’s why he got accepted at our finest institutions. but the reality is that he’s an alcoholic and a functional retard.

  8. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    [8] anon

    I’d rather be a dim, wealthy, retired ex-president than a bitter socia1ist.

  9. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    [2] Gary,

    I will listen to an actual teacher on the subject before someone dissembling for WaPos op-ed pages (which are pretty much the entire paper).

  10. anon (the good one) says:

    @MMFlint:
    BREAKING: Autopsy shows Ferguson cop fired 6 bullets into unarmed Michael Brown. The 1st 4 struck him in rt arm. Then two shots to the head.

  11. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    There was a list of the most and least “social1st” states in the US.. When I read the criteria for what constitutes a “social1st” state, I thought it was a ridiculously flawed metric to use. The results are even more absurd.

    It was so ridiculous a measure for anon’s dream state that I’m not even gonna post a link. But I will answer this one question: so, per the survey, what is the ideal dream state for anon, cobbler and ccb223?

    West Virginia.

    Hmmm, maybe it was a good metric after all.

  12. anon (the good one) says:

    you guys so angry about educating the poor and powerless, but unfazed by Affirmative Action for the 1%

    Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:
    August 18, 2014 at 7:49 am
    [8] anon

    I’d rather be a dim, wealthy, retired ex-president than a bitter socia1ist.

  13. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    [11] anon,

    That isn’t a good fact for you. See if you can figure out why.

  14. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    [14] anon

    I’m not the angry one in this exchange. That should be obvious to even you.

    Now, if you will excuse me, I’m back to my vacation.

  15. jj says:

    Chinese and Indian Education is terrible. It is all route memorization. They are excelent in stuff like Math or Accounting where you memorize and spit it out but terrible on thinking and people skills.

    look at big four firms, tons and tons of asian kids start out but very few as Partners. Most have trouble with people skills, managing people, being flexible. For example went to a dinner on a Friday during Lent with a Catholic Partner I am also Catholic and Asian Client wanted Steak and client said he would do ordering. It is a big deal for an Asian Executive to want to take you to dinner, he picks restuarant and orders food and pays. The Partner said to me lets eat steak I am sure God wants the client to be happy.

    I have dealt with Festivlle of Lights, Ramadom, Yon Kippur, days folks cant drive, Jehovas, Christian Scientists you name it at work. But at C-level and Partner level all the asian/indian folks are so insanely unflexible, rude and uninnovative.

    My favorite is once an Jain Hidu Indian Staff told a client when we were at a steak dinner when asked was he was a vegitarian for health reasons instead of nodding Yes. He went off to say he cannot be reincarnated if he eats steak and folks who eat meat may suffer coming back in next life as a bug. Then the waitor came with our steaks.

  16. grim says:

    Autopsy shows Ferguson cop fired 6 bullets into unarmed Michael Brown. The 1st 4 struck him in rt arm. Then two shots to the head.

    This is bizarre, and not what you would expect from a trained law enforcement shooter. Based on this, I’m very interested to know if this was short-range.

  17. jj says:

    What is left of an arm with four bullets in it. Also what was point of two shots to head? If you shoot someone four times even if in an Arm most likely he is pretty useless.

    grim says:

    August 18, 2014 at 9:01 am

    Autopsy shows Ferguson cop fired 6 bullets into unarmed Michael Brown. The 1st 4 struck him in rt arm. Then two shots to the head.

    This is bizarre, and not what you would expect from a trained law enforcement shooter. Based on this, I’m very interested to know if this was short-range

  18. Michael says:

    Michael says:
    August 18, 2014 at 12:12 am
    105-

    Five Myths About U.S. Kids Outclassed by the Rest of the World

    At the end of this article, the reporter slips in an important rhetorical question: But if being No. 1 in education is our goal, shouldn’t we also want to be No. 1 in all the things closely linked to academic achievement, such as quality of childhood health care and reduction of childhood poverty? We must push this question beyond rhetoric. Our children are suffering in very real ways.

    By Paul Farhi

    The usual hand-wringing accompanied the Department of Education’s release late last year of new statistics on how U.S. students performed on international tests. How will the United States compete in the global economy, went the lament, when our students lag behind the likes of Singapore and Hong Kong in math and science? American fourth-graders ranked 12th in the world on one international math test, and eighth-graders were 14th. Is this further evidence of the failure of the nation’s schools?

    Not exactly. In fact, a closer look at how our kids perform against the international “competition” suggests that this story line may contain more than a few myths:

    1. U.S. students rate poorly compared with those in the rest of the world.

    This is true only if you cherry-pick the results. University of Pennsylvania researchers Erling E. Boe and Sujie Shin looked at six major international tests in reading, math, science and civics conducted from 1991 through 2001. Their conclusion: Americans are above average when compared with 22 other industrialized nations. In civics, no nation scored significantly higher than the United States; in reading, only 13 percent did. Even in math and science — the two subjects considered “vital” to future technological competitiveness — the United States fell in roughly the middle of the pack. No gold star, but hardly a crisis, either.

    More interesting, when compared with students in the world’s most industrialized countries, U.S. students were on par with the others in every subject (and outperformed everyone in civics). And every Western country, not just the United States, lagged behind Japan in math and science, suggesting that the “achievement gap” in these subjects is an East-West phenomenon rather than an American one.

    2. U.S. students are falling behind.

    Actually, American students are mostly improving, or at worst holding their own. As the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS) shows, America’s eighth-graders improved their math and science scores in 1995, 1999 and 2003. Only students in Hong Kong, Latvia and Lithuania — three relatively tiny and homogenous entities — improved more than the United States did. Indeed, no nation included in the major international rankings educates as many poor students or as ethnically diverse a population as does the United States. Yet even as the percentage of historically low-achieving students has increased, our test scores have risen. Unfortunately, news accounts focus on the relative position of American students (are we No. 1 or No. 12?) rather than on their absolute performance (did they improve, regardless of what others did?).

    3. U.S. students won’t be well prepared for the modern workforce.

    This myth has been bandied around since at least the turn of the century — the 19th century — by business leaders who blame schools for inadequately preparing workers. It’s part of the never-ending notion that U.S. schools are in crisis.

    Education researcher Gerald W. Bracey cites a March 1957 cover story in Life magazine — at the height of post-Sputnik paranoia over Soviet scientific prowess — that contrasts the stern, rigorous education of a Moscow teenager (complicated physics and chemistry courses) with the carefree lifestyle of a Chicago youth (rehearsals for his high school musical). The cover headline: “Crisis in Education.” In the 1980s, when Japan seemed to be an unstoppable economic juggernaut, the seminal policy manifesto “A Nation at Risk,” written by a blue-ribbon panel at the behest of the Department of Education, warned that deficiencies in high school graduates “come at a time when the demand for highly skilled workers in new fields is accelerating rapidly.”

    Despite these doomsday cases, the United States survived and, by many measures, bested the competition. Today, with the Soviet Union a memory and Japan facing its own economic and demographic problems, the anxieties have shifted to China and other Asian rivals.

    4. Bad schooling has undermined America’s competitiveness.

    This canard — perhaps the biggest of them all — was given a boost by the recent World Economic Forum survey of international economies. Typically this annual survey ranks the U.S. economy as the most competitive in the world, but last year it put the United States in sixth place. However, the drop had nothing to do with test scores or school performance. Rather, the forum cited U.S. trade and budget deficits, a low savings rate, tax cuts and the federal government’s increased spending on defense and homeland security.

    Another recent survey, by the Council on Competitiveness, a Washington-based business advisory group, found that over the past two decades the U.S. economy grew faster than that of any other advanced nation, and generated a third of the world’s economic growth. Yet this performance followed a period in which the authors of “A Nation at Risk” were warning that a “rising tide of [educational] mediocrity . . . threatens our very future as a nation.” That was in 1983. Those high-school mediocrities are now turning 40, and presumably have been playing a part in helping the U.S. economy grow “faster than any other advanced economy” over the past two decades.

    A dynamic economy is much more than the sum of its test scores. It’s part of a culture that rewards innovation and risk-taking, and values unconventional problem-solving. Much of this is nurtured in our schools, even if it can’t be quantified on a test.

    Recently, Newsweek International’s Fareed Zakaria noted Singapore’s success on international math and science exams, but asked Education Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam why Singapore produced so few top-ranked scientists, entrepreneurs, inventors, business executives and academics. “We both have meritocracies,” he replied. America’s “is a talent meritocracy, ours is an exam meritocracy. There are some parts of the intellect that we are not able to test well — like creativity, curiosity, a sense of adventure, ambition. Most of all, America has a culture of learning that challenges conventional wisdom, even if it means challenging authority. These are the areas where Singapore must learn from America.”

    Our current (and past) economic success suggests something that educational alarmists and their sky-is-falling friends in the news media seem reluctant to admit: American schools may have a lot to fix, but they may be doing a few things right, too.

    5. How we stack up on international tests matters, if only for national pride.

    Yes, we’re a nation of strivers and self-improvers; the American drive to be the biggest and the best in everything seems part of our national character. But if being No. 1 in education is our goal, shouldn’t we also want to be No. 1 in all the things closely linked to academic achievement, such as quality of childhood health care and reduction of childhood poverty? National pride can be a destructive concept, especially when it views learning as a zero-sum game (“their” gains are “our” losses, and vice versa). Continuous improvement should be our goal, regardless of whether we’re No.1 in the test-score Olympics.

    Paul Farhi is a Washington Post staff writer

    — Paul Farhi
    Washington Post

    2007-01-21

    http://tinyurl.com/24c3rw

    na

    MORE OUTRAGES

  19. Michael says:

    Michael says:
    August 18, 2014 at 12:22 am
    USA!! USA!! USA!! Stop trying to make it seem like we are failing. If American education is so bad, how come our universities are the most sought after in the world? Europeans watering at the mouth to get into American universities because they know the success associated with it.

    Remember, our public education system for the primary grades is based on the following philosophy……”no child left behind”.

    Would love to see these other countries include illegal boarder jumpers, gang banging thugs, homeless children, and special education kids in their test scores.

    “Indeed, no nation included in the major international rankings educates as many poor students or as ethnically diverse a population as does the United States. Yet even as the percentage of historically low-achieving students has increased, our test scores have risen.”

  20. Michael says:

    Michael says:
    August 18, 2014 at 12:23 am
    Also, address this issue.

    “At the end of this article, the reporter slips in an important rhetorical question: But if being No. 1 in education is our goal, shouldn’t we also want to be No. 1 in all the things closely linked to academic achievement, such as quality of childhood health care and reduction of childhood poverty? We must push this question beyond rhetoric. Our children are suffering in very real ways.”

  21. painhrtz - whatever says:

    grim especially the two head shots. Not easy to hit a small moving target with a pistol and a lot of cops can’t hit a stationary target reliably past 5 meters with their sidearm. To perform a double tap to the head a special forces operator would be impressed, depending on range this could have been more an execution than self defense.

  22. Michael says:

    Ben only gives the perspective of a teacher teaching the top students. If this wasn’t the case, he would not make statements saying the parents do the hw for the kids. You are telling me lower class parents actually help their kids with their hw? I might believe that one.

    Fast Eddie says:
    August 18, 2014 at 7:04 am
    Apologies for sullying the post so early buy this needs to be repeated:

    Per Ben’s post from last night:

    Any new teaching methods that have gained traction within education circles in this country are complete gimmicks and people juke their grades to make it seem like it works.

    Bottom line, students from Europe and Asia that are the same age as our students can run circles around our students. There’s something wrong with that. Our education system is weak comparatively speaking and you cannot use the amount of HW kids get as evidence that they work hard or even have to work harder than a previous generation.

    A. Most of it is busy work
    B. Most of the time, the parents end up doing it for the kids.

  23. Michael says:

    So true. Why do you think the chinese constantly rip off our technology ideas….they can’t think outside the box. They are more like robots than a student. Good at sitting obediently and waiting for their next order.

    jj says:
    August 18, 2014 at 8:44 am
    Chinese and Indian Education is terrible. It is all route memorization. They are excelent in stuff like Math or Accounting where you memorize and spit it out but terrible on thinking and people skills.

  24. Michael says:

    25- more proof. What kind of jobs do we recruit foreign students for? Boring work like writing code.

  25. Jason says:

    Michael, so you’re saying Asians can’t think outside the box. Maybe you haven’t heard about the Toyota Prius.

  26. Michael says:

    Japanese and South Koreans…that’s about it.

    Jason says:
    August 18, 2014 at 9:34 am
    Michael, so you’re saying Asians can’t think outside the box. Maybe you haven’t heard about the Toyota Prius.

  27. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    He was a poor shot but I’m still trying to reconcile how a stop for jaywalking ends up with 6 shots being fired into him?

  28. Michael says:

    The biggest difference in American education when comparing it to the European and Asian model is the obedience factor. Think tiger mom type learning environment. You want that in American schools? Apparently parents do not want that type of learning experience for their kids.

  29. Toxic Crayons says:

    Hey Grim, any evidence sales and prices are picking up in Northwest NJ? A casual look at Zillow suggests they might have this summer….

  30. Toxic Crayons says:

    No worries, NAACP put out a statement that Eric Holder and the DOJ are on the case and they expect a fair investigation.

    Seriously though, if a 250lb + dude is coming at you, you can plug him plenty of times before he stops moving. And you can empty a glock or smith and wesson M&P semi auto pistol pretty quick. The double tap to the head may have been to stop him from moving altogether and finish the job.

    Didn’t they have dashcams in Furgeson? You’d think there’d at least be audio from that.

    In any case, we really have to wait for all the facts to come out….

  31. anon (the good one) says:

    @KeithOlbermann: This is not “law and order” – it is paranoia and raw power run amok. If it takes Nat’l Guard to overrule these Pirate-like Police, so be it.

  32. anon (the good one) says:

    the facts are out: Unarmed man shot 6 times

    Toxic Crayons says:
    August 18, 2014 at 10:13 am

    In any case, we really have to wait for all the facts to come out….

  33. jj says:

    You shoot a man four times in his arm of course he is going to end up Unarmed

    anon (the good one) says:

    August 18, 2014 at 10:21 am

    the facts are out: Unarmed man shot 6 times

    Toxic Crayons says:
    August 18, 2014 at 10:13 am

    In any case, we really have to wait for all the facts to come out….

  34. nwnj says:

    Olberman appears to have lost his grip a while ago, the national guard is going to be handing out beatdowns and not candy.

  35. nwnj says:

    #35 Haha, hilarious.

  36. grim says:

    Well at least now we can drop the discussion about the militarization of police, since we’re now just marching in the military.

  37. Toxic Crayons says:

    Ferguson cop allegedly threatens to kill journalist on livestreamed video

    http://www.dailydot.com/politics/ferguson-cop-shoot-you-in-the-face/

  38. Juice Box says:

    Damm Grim filters are catching all my posts.

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    anon,

    To clarify, I wasn’t laughing at the actual phrase aimed at a family member. I laughed because it reminded me of Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. Apologies if taken the wrong way.

  40. Ben says:

    At the end of this article, the reporter slips in an important rhetorical question: But if being No. 1 in education is our goal, shouldn’t we also want to be No. 1 in all the things closely linked to academic achievement, such as quality of childhood health care and reduction of childhood poverty? We must push this question beyond rhetoric. Our children are suffering in very real ways.

    Stop looking at articles. When I was in high school, we had this kid who was an average student in Germany visit for 2 years as a foreign exchange student. He was a sophomore and was in our senior classes (even English).

    My best student ever came over from China two years ago. She was also two years ahead of everyone. Once again, she had more command and understanding of the English language than her peers.

    Being number 1 is not important. Not being outclassed by nations half as wealthy as you is. Any article you reference that tries to paint the picture differently is either uninformed opinion or propaganda. I’ve seen the truth with my own eyes and experience as I have taught both high school and college. Foreign students are more capable.

    As JJ put it, the only thing they aren’t good at is making the executive level. They never learn how to back stab and leech off the productive members of society. They are too busy trying to do things on their own.

  41. Ben says:

    So true. Why do you think the chinese constantly rip off our technology ideas….they can’t think outside the box. They are more like robots than a student. Good at sitting obediently and waiting for their next order.

    And also good at putting your nation into a massive trade deficit.

  42. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    [4] I tend to agree with clot. I would also add that educated and debt-free people have not only the ability to think, but also many options to choose from. The American system of employment built around a model with very little vacation time and a lifetime of debt is as much about preventing productive thought as it is about actual productivity. You could even make a case that student loan debt is an intentional shackle that was a needed replacement for the anchors of marriage, mortgage, and kids when young 20-somethings stopped lining up for traditional debt slavery.

    I think most salaried professionals could be just as, if not more, productive with 4-6 weeks of vacation, but productivity is not the issue; the issue is what ideas might come to mind with that much time away from the hamster wheel.

    Educated people are thinking people. Thinking people question the gubmint.

    The gubmint wants non-thinking, subservient sheep. Therefore, skools will continue to suck.

    Want fries with that?

  43. Michael says:

    Ben, the Chinese and Germans are not sending over their worst students. Quite the opposite. They are sending their most ambitious.

  44. joyce says:

    The article titled “five myths … ” should be renamed to ‘One sentence restated in five different ways’

    Ben says:
    August 18, 2014 at 10:55 am

  45. joyce says:

    Police like to say don’t let the “very small percentage” of bad cops make you think they’re all bad. Well, then why does the fact that some people are looting make police blame all of the people out there (including the ones protesting or media covering it)?

    How do some impose a curfew with a straight-face knowing it’s completely unconstitutional?

    Toxic Crayons says:
    August 18, 2014 at 10:38 am
    Ferguson cop allegedly threatens to kill journalist on livestreamed video

    http://www.dailydot.com/politics/ferguson-cop-shoot-you-in-the-face/

  46. Anon E. Moose says:

    Re: [33];

    Solution to militarized police is to call in the National Guard? M’kay…

    Cognitive dissonance often?

  47. jj says:

    Michael says:

    If your can give a rub and a tug with one hand and code with the other you be a very rich asian.

    August 18, 2014 at 9:23 am

    25- more proof. What kind of jobs do we recruit foreign students for? Boring work like writing code.

  48. Toxic Crayons says:

    Invest in Solar…it’s environmentally friendly….whooops…

    Emerging solar plants scorch birds in mid-air
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/emerging-solar-plants-scorch-birds-mid-air

    IVANPAH DRY LAKE, Calif. (AP) — Workers at a state-of-the-art solar plant in the Mojave Desert have a name for birds that fly through the plant’s concentrated sun rays — “streamers,” for the smoke plume that comes from birds that ignite in midair

    Federal wildlife investigators who visited the BrightSource Energy plant last year and watched as birds burned and fell, reporting an average of one “streamer” every two minutes, are urging California officials to halt the operator’s application to build a still-bigger version.

    The investigators want the halt until the full extent of the deaths can be assessed. Estimates per year now range from a low of about a thousand by BrightSource to 28,000 by an expert for the Center for Biological Diversity environmental group.

    The deaths are “alarming. It’s hard to say whether that’s the location or the technology,” said Garry George, renewable-energy director for the California chapter of the Audubon Society. “There needs to be some caution.”

    The bird kills mark the latest instance in which the quest for clean energy sometimes has inadvertent environmental harm. Solar farms have been criticized for their impacts on desert tortoises, and wind farms have killed birds, including numerous raptors.

  49. Toxic Crayons says:

    Case in point….

    http://nypost.com/2014/07/13/female-yahoo-executive-sued-by-female-employee-for-sexual-harassment/

    jj says:
    August 18, 2014 at 11:28 am
    Michael says:

    If your can give a rub and a tug with one hand and code with the other you be a very rich

  50. expat (45)-

    “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

    Vladimir Lenin

  51. Chinese students, meh. In the end, they are just as dumb as we are. Here’s why:

    Amerika: Fascist country, masquerading as democratic
    China: Fascist country, masquerading as peoples’ republik

    Amerika: necronomy based upon financial engineering
    China: necronomy based upon fraud and currency debasement

    Amerika: real estate markets in living dead mode
    China: multiple ghost cities meant to hold millions of people

    Amerika: stock markets pumped by ZIRP and risk-chasing
    China: stock markets pumped by accounting fraud

    Amerika: millions of people trapped in poverty
    China: at least a billion people trapped in poverty

    Amerika: nation at perpetual war
    China: nation preparing to be in perpetual war

    None of the leadership in either country has any claim to education (or even intelligence, for that matter). We elect rictus-faced hustlers, and China’s politburo promotes ham-fisted loyalists.

  52. Toxic Crayons says:

    Lenin never actually said that, but the origin of that “fake quote” is interesting and there are some names familiar to this blog associated with it….

    http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/04/15/fake-quote-files-v-i-lenin-on-inflation-and-taxation/

    Ebola for Palestine says:

    August 18, 2014 at 11:46 am
    expat (45)-

    “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

    Vladimir Lenin

  53. Educated, thinking people are first on the list of those to be silenced, then crushed.

    Everywhere.

  54. Sorry, toxic. I take it back. Lenin was a really good guy. Look at all he accomplished.

  55. 1987 Condo says:

    The whole gas price decline is ruining the hyper inflation scenario…..I would say that food inflation will help, but it seems a bumper crop of corn this season will drop prices, better luck next year….(natural gas? nope!)

  56. Toxic Crayons says:

    Politicians will say anything to whip people up in their quest for power.

    Ebola for Palestine says:
    August 18, 2014 at 12:01 pm
    Sorry, toxic. I take it back. Lenin was a really good guy. Look at all he accomplished.

  57. Toxic Crayons says:

    Keynes warned of the dangers of inflation and criticized Lenin? Who knew?

    Although it is now overshadowed by his later work, Keynes wrote a brilliant and enduring book in 1919, in the aftermath World War I, titled The Economic Consequences of the Peace. In it, he states:

    Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to deb@uch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.

    … Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.

  58. Toxic Crayons says:

    Grim, is my post on John Maynard Keynes going into moderation?

    Could you un-moderate it please?

  59. Libturd in the City says:

    My drinks are in moderation.

  60. Toxic Crayons says:

    Joyce, here’s a new music video for a song you might want on your ipod.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlY9C6pzxKc

  61. anon (the good one) says:

    @KeithOlbermann: Ongoing indiscriminate bullying against citizens -even media- cannot be permitted. All of us throughout the political spectrum must oppose.

  62. Toxic Crayon says:

    ‘There are no police’: Ferguson store owners guard businesses; cite lack of police response

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/16/there-are-no-police-ferguson-store-owners-guard-businesses-with-own-guns-lack/

  63. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    TC – that fake quote article was quite good.
    Clot – You’ve expanded my vocabulary with “rictus”.

  64. nwnj says:

    Exactly WTF are the protesters list of complaints at this point in time?

    They’ve got the nation’s attention and there are three ongoing investigations. In this society, we believe in due process and not mob justice.

    What it’s become is a bunch of hoods who are frustrated with the lots they’ve chosen in life. I hope it’s suppressed as quickly as possible from this point forward by whatever means are deemed necessary.

  65. anon (the good one) says:

    @WSJ:
    Independent autopsy finds no sign of struggle between Michael Brown and police officer who shot him. http://t.co/acu4RV4zBB #Ferguson

  66. toxic (60)-

    And Greenspan once believed in the gold standard. Amazing how all these necronomic geniuses become advocates for ass-b@nging the public when they ascend to power.

  67. When will we get the results of anon’s autopsy?

  68. joyce says:

    I agree with you completely, as long as you separate out the protesters from those who are violent. I could guess at their complaints at this point in time… but it really is irrelevant because everyone has the right to protest as long as they don’t hurt other people.

    nwnj says:
    August 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm
    Exactly WTF are the protesters list of complaints at this point in time?

    They’ve got the nation’s attention and there are three ongoing investigations. In this society, we believe in due process and not mob justice.

    What it’s become is a bunch of hoods who are frustrated with the lots they’ve chosen in life. I hope it’s suppressed as quickly as possible from this point forward by whatever means are deemed necessary.

  69. nwnj (67)-

    This Ferguson thing is so crazy, I’d prefer to withhold judgment until all the facts are known.

    However, a bunch of jungle bunnies looting up their own neighborhood and businesses does not make the Brown side look good. You’d think these people would loot and burn on whitey’s turf if they were so full of moral outrage.

    Also worth noting that whenever dumb, violent shit is happening, Al Sharpton is in the middle of it.

  70. Toxic Crayon says:

    Fox2 Missouri reported that when the first round of looters were arrested and charged with felony burglary, they were not even from Ferguson. People came from all over the area to take advantage of the situation.

    nwnj says:
    August 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm
    Exactly WTF are the protesters list of complaints at this point in time?

    They’ve got the nation’s attention and there are three ongoing investigations. In this society, we believe in due process and not mob justice.

    What it’s become is a bunch of hoods who are frustrated with the lots they’ve chosen in life. I hope it’s suppressed as quickly as possible from this point forward by whatever means are deemed necessary.

  71. Libturd in the City says:

    Why do they only protest at night?

  72. anon (the good one) says:

    @GuardianUS:

    Nobody wants more violent protests. But, as MLK said: ‘a riot is the language of the unheard’

    http://t.co/TtYdWYFlwM via @GaryYounge

    “For good reason, the nature of such rebellions troubles many. They attract opportunists, macho-men and thrill-seekers as well as the righteously indignant and politically militant. Resistance to occupation is often romanticised but never pretty. And Ferguson – a mostly black town under curfew in which the entire political power structure is white, with a militarised police force that killed a black child – was under occupation.

    Riots are also polarising. They narrow the base of support for campaigns, sending potential sympathisers into the arms of the state, demanding a police crackdown. People ask: what could violent protest possibly achieve? It is a good question. But it only has any validity if they also question the nature of the “peace” preceding it. Those who call for calm must question how calm anyone can be in the knowledge that their son, brother or lover could be shot in such a way.

    People have a right to resist occupation, even if we don’t necessarily agree with every method they use to do so.”

  73. Juice Box says:

    re: # 73 – Yep there are even some OWS white boys there too. Al Sharpton and his provocateurs are now only warming up.

    Let’s also not forget it is already election season.

  74. The average Amerikan rioter only sees rioting as a way to get free stuff.

  75. Toxic Crayon says:

    Dude was right about the five bl@ck kids convicted of murder in the central park jogger case. Meanwhile, Trump took out a full page ad calling for the de@th pen@lty.

    Ebola for Palestine says:
    August 18, 2014 at 1:50 pm
    Al Sharpton is in the middle of it.

  76. Toxic Crayon says:

    murder…..sb…..assault

  77. nwnj says:

    #75 Duh, everyone in the hood knows the best way I know to combat social injustice is to rob a liquor store.

  78. anon (the good one) says:

    “Commissions meticulously identified many dimensions of racial exclusion. One panel in Cleveland, where the Hough neighborhood had erupted a year after Watts, listed:

    “inadequate and sub-standard housing,”
    “charging of exorbitant rents by absentee landlords,”
    “non-enforcement of the housing code,”
    “sub-standard educational facilities as a consequence of long neglect,”
    “excessive food prices,” and
    “denial of equal economicopportunities.”

    The report on Watts had similarly highlighted chronic unemployment, education, and health care resources. It concluded with a searing call to action:

    The road to the improvement of the condition of the disadvantaged Negro which lies through education and employment is hard and long, but there is no shorter route… Of what shall it avail our nation if we can place a man on the moon but cannot cure the sickness in our cities?”

    @BillMoyersHQ: RT @WaPoThing:
    We could have prevented the Ferguson riots:
    http://t.co/KttGJ0yiVe via @merlinc2 http://t.co/yItOynCuul

  79. Libturd in the City says:

    Man steals blunts and punches cashier. Receives nomination from the left.

    Anon’s hero.

  80. grim says:

    Arm the Rebellion!

  81. grim says:

    “People have a right to resist occupation, even if we don’t necessarily agree with every method they use to do so.”

    We are talking about America, right?

  82. All Hype says:

    “You’d think these people would loot and burn on whitey’s turf if they were so full of moral outrage.”

    Because whitey is locked and loaded. The good, law abiding people are quitely watching this unfold while cleaning their AR-15s.

  83. jj says:

    Oil/gas price drop when I was at Lowes yesterday left the Solar guy with his thumb in his butt and oil to gas conversion companies are sending me post cards daily.

    Cost to covert out of oil or buying a hybrid car is making a lot less sense today than even two weeks ago

  84. All Hype says:

    Man steals blunts and punches cashier. Receives nomination from the left.

    You know Lib, no one is talking about the assault on the police officer in his car prior to the shooting. It’s like it never happened or if it did it should just be discounted like it’s no big deal. I know, I know, it’s just one of those things when you punch a LE officer in the head a few times and try to grab his weapon……no consequences whatsoever.

  85. anon (the good one) says:

    “The analysis—conducted by the Berkeley-based research group MapLight using data provided by the Center for Responsive Politics—also found that of 59 representatives who received more than $100,000 from the defense industry from 2011 through 2013, all but three voted against the amendment.”

    @MotherJones: How the Defense Industry Convinced Congress to Militarize Local Cops http://t.co/cIZTqGqYUr
    #Ferguson

  86. nwnj says:

    Watching the overnight video of the looting is mind boggling, typical smash-and-grab with the cops looking the other way. It must be gut wrenching for a cop to tow the line in this case.

    The looting isn’t put to a stop until the owners show up after 15 minutes packing. One bystander claims the owners were “getting an education.”

    http://fox2now.com/2014/08/16/crisis-in-ferguson/

  87. grim says:

    Reporting that Brown was high, and shot from the front. Not from behind, while running away, as witnesses had stated.

  88. joyce says:

    87
    All Hype,
    Besides statements, has there been more evidence as to who did what first (talking about when the cop car drove up to the two walking in the street) ?

  89. Libturd in the City says:

    The police in Ferguson should utilize the same tactics that the New York Police used in Zucchini Park.

  90. Michael says:

    Glad to see the participants of this blog are finally coming around to what I was saying about this case last week. Thank the media for taking a robber/thug and making him a hero after he assaults a cop and gets shot. His actions didn’t deserve death…blah blah blah. If he wasn’t acting like a thug, he would still be alive. I have no mercy for these type of people.

    Society is a better place with him not walking the streets. I thank this officer. There I said it. Now bring on the attacks. I’m sure that entrepreneur that got robbed agrees with me.

    All Hype says:
    August 18, 2014 at 2:40 pm
    Man steals blunts and punches cashier. Receives nomination from the left.

    You know Lib, no one is talking about the assault on the police officer in his car prior to the shooting. It’s like it never happened or if it did it should just be discounted like it’s no big deal. I know, I know, it’s just one of those things when you punch a LE officer in the head a few times and try to grab his weapon……no consequences whatsoever.

  91. Libturd in the City says:

    Passion Fruit,

    How did you find this blog?

  92. Juice Box says:

    re: looting – who cares.

    These protestors were tossing Molotov CocKtails aka weapons of mass destruction, take a look the the pics from the Google search, notice the confused crackers who one minute were holding arms in solidarity and the next are worried about getting capped.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Molotov+CocKtails+ferguson&client=firefox-a&hs=WN9&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=jU7yU4HwB8uoyASlgIHgDA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=913

    Anyone know if the National guard will be give clips full of FMJs or blanks?

  93. Toxic Crayon says:

    Blog announcement:

    There’s a “protest” planned for 3AM tonight at the liquor store in Jersey City.

  94. Toxic Crayon says:

    @ChuckCJohnson
    News tip from law enforcement source: #MichaelBrown Brown was charged with 2nd degree murder as a juvenile. Confirming now… #Ferguson

  95. Michael says:

    A long time ago, when I was researching information on nj real estate. I was looking for my second home from late 09 and finally bought in dec 2011. I lurked from 09-13. Jumped in early 2013 in my quest to find out politically who I am. So I started debating with you political vets. Been jumping around the past year from side to side, and currently have found myself in the middle. Have been vehemently hated by the members of this blog during this process of finding myself politically. I know it’s annoying, but you only can find yourself politically through debate with intelligent people. You learn a lot with the back and forth nature of the debate.

    This past week, I have probably turned into a racist in the eyes of some on this board. I swear I am not. If this kid was another race, I would feel the same exact way that I do. I hate criminals. Bottom line. Thug life culture is a criminals paradise. I hate it. One of the worst things a child can do to their parents is become a thug. F them. They ruin everything, and must constantly be locked up like an animal.

    Libturd in the City says:
    August 18, 2014 at 3:02 pm
    Passion Fruit,

    How did you find this blog?

  96. anon (the good one) says:

    @pourmecoffee:
    Obama will be speaking at 4:00 PM so blow the whistle and let the boys down in the outrage furnace get ready to shovel and stoke the fires.

  97. Essex says:

    Noticed today the Nj.com site rated the schools again. This time with figures for Arts participation. Kind of neat.

  98. Libturd in the City says:

    ISIS is a much bigger issue than Ferguson. Thousands of innocent law abiding citizens will lose their homes, valuables and lives because Obama is too much of a pragmatist. Yet, so much of his recent focus is in defense of a gangbanger thug who stole blunts and punched a convenience store cashier. What is it with Democrats and cigars? Every time you mix the two their approval ratings go down.

  99. Libturd in the City says:

    Essex.

    Would love to see how they tested for Arts proficiency? Paint by number? Oh wait, that’s the math test!

  100. Fast Eddie says:

    Will Bacco Bama tell us how this kid in Ferguson could have been his son?

  101. toxic (78)-

    Two words: Tawana Brawley

    There’s no tense racial situation that Al Sharpton can’t make worse.

    Worst of all? He was a FBI snitch back in his Fat Albert track suit days.

    “Dude was right about the five bl@ck kids convicted of murder in the central park jogger case. “

  102. Ragnar says:

    Ben,
    What student rankings would the US receive globally if they only counted whites and Asians? (i.e. cultures not frequently actively hostile or indifferent to the concept of education). The Chinese scores on these rankings are especially fake. They only count students in Shanghai, and I suspect the Chinese government make sures to weed out the Shanghai ghettos from that as well, to prevent the scores of their ~400 mn semi-literate peasants from delivering national humiliation. I’m guessing Cuba scores well too.

  103. Juice Box says:

    “the president’s go-to black leader” Al Sharpton said he the kid was just shop lifting as if he was casually making off with a loaf of bread under his coat.

    The DA says differently.

    “The use of physical force in a robbery. If someone is stealing, and another person makes an attempt to stop them, and then physical force is used to complete the act that is strong-arm robbery.” A class C violent felony.

    Of course Al also has to weigh in on his TV channel too.

    Sharpton told MSNBC’s Tamron Hall on Monday that he thinks possible presidential candidates have a responsibility to speak out about the situation in Ferguson.

    “This is now a national, central issue, and anyone running for president needs to come up with a formula, or, in my opinion, they forfeit their right to be taken seriously,” he said. “I’m amazed that we’re not hearing from leading candidates … Chris Christie or Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton. I land in New York this morning, and I see Chris Christie dancing with Jamie Foxx.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/18/sharpton-christie-ferguson_n_5688617.html

  104. Libturd in the City says:

    Beat thing you can do with the Sharpton’s and Trumps of the world is to ignore them and they go away.

  105. toxic (96)-

    Go ahead. I don’t run that place anymore. The guy who does, though, lives upstairs and has a 30.06 under his bed and very little compassion.

    “There’s a “protest” planned for 3AM tonight at the liquor store in Jersey City.”

  106. Essex says:

    102. the figure is more a “participation” figure. Probably a ham-handed way to further correlate arts and general education success.

  107. Love to see a mob bust into Trump Tower. That thing needs to burn to the ground.

  108. Michael says:

    Thanks for pointing that out, rags.

    Put it this way, you have a choice of a surgeon from a Chinese school, Indian school, Caribbean school, basically any other country in the world, or an American school. Which one would you choose, and be honest. I’m choosing the American school graduate any day of the week.

    Ragnar says:
    August 18, 2014 at 3:59 pm
    Ben,
    What student rankings would the US receive globally if they only counted whites and Asians? (i.e. cultures not frequently actively hostile or indifferent to the concept of education). The Chinese scores on these rankings are especially fake. They only count students in Shanghai, and I suspect the Chinese government make sures to weed out the Shanghai ghettos from that as well, to prevent the scores of their ~400 mn semi-literate peasants from delivering national humiliation. I’m guessing Cuba scores well too.

  109. All Hype says:

    Joyce (91):

    I have read that the offier pulled up to the deceased and the other suspect to get them off the streetand onto the sidewalk. The call came in regarding the robbery and the description of the suspect. The officer then went to get out of the car and the deceased pushed the police cruiser shut. The officer then got out of the car and the 2 suspects pushed him back in, punched him and went for his gun. The gun went off, the suspects ran and the officer called for backup. The officer chased the suspects to which the deceased turned around and charged the officer. The officer responded by firing multiple shots. The other suspect did not charge the officer and put his hands up to surrender.

    If anyone has any other/updated information please share.

  110. Juice Box says:

    re# 101- “ISIS is a much bigger issue”

    Hardly, there are 77 days left until the election.

  111. Ragnar says:

    http://www.nj.com/inside-jersey/index.ssf/2014/08/new_jerseys_2014_top_performing_public_high_schools_for_academics_the_arts.html#incart_m-rpt-1

    I see the Malcolm X Shabazz High School average SAT score is under 1000. How does that translate into percentiles? Bottom 5%? Only the athletes bother to take it? Could they get a higher score by just filling in “C” for every bubble?

  112. Juice Box says:

    re: #113 – And the only proof you need is “inner circle” Al Sharpton who has already put out a political hit on Christie.

    Nothing like a manufactured crisis folks.

  113. Ben says:

    What student rankings would the US receive globally if they only counted whites and Asians? (i.e. cultures not frequently actively hostile or indifferent to the concept of education). The Chinese scores on these rankings are especially fake. They only count students in Shanghai, and I suspect the Chinese government make sures to weed out the Shanghai ghettos from that as well, to prevent the scores of their ~400 mn semi-literate peasants from delivering national humiliation. I’m guessing Cuba scores well too.

    Student rankings are not a uniform metric that you can apply from country to country because none of them take the same standardized tests.

    Here in lies the problem.

    Our best students in NJ are in Calc 2 as a senior. Our best students are in AP Physics C (Calc Based) as a senior.

    Just about every other modernized nation’s best students are in Multivariable Calc as a senior and AP Physics C by Junior Year. Our best students are more than capable. The curriculum that we have set within this country holds them back.

    Moreover, we keep looking for creative ways to teach kids to improve their performance. It’s always a racket. Meanwhile, industrialized nations cut the BS and just friggin teach.

  114. Michael says:

    Stop!!! People want this to be about an 18 year old African American college bound kid that was a gentle giant who was good to the neighborhood kids, but was gunned down in the street by some racist white cop. Keep it to the story people want to hear. They still want to riot and rob some stores. Don’t ruin it for them.

    All Hype says:
    August 18, 2014 at 4:09 pm
    Joyce (91):

    I have read that the offier pulled up to the deceased and the other suspect to get them off the streetand onto the sidewalk. The call came in regarding the robbery and the description of the suspect. The officer then went to get out of the car and the deceased pushed the police cruiser shut. The officer then got out of the car and the 2 suspects pushed him back in, punched him and went for his gun. The gun went off, the suspects ran and the officer called for backup. The officer chased the suspects to which the deceased turned around and charged the officer. The officer responded by firing multiple shots. The other suspect did not charge the officer and put his hands up to surrender.

    If anyone has any other/updated information please share.

  115. Ben says:

    Put it this way, you have a choice of a surgeon from a Chinese school, Indian school, Caribbean school, basically any other country in the world, or an American school. Which one would you choose, and be honest. I’m choosing the American school graduate any day of the week.

    I’ll choose the one from the singapore school.

  116. joyce says:

    For all that are curious, the word race or racist has been mentioned 3 times today… all by the same person who is “fed up with this being about race.”

    Ctrl F … if you don’t believe me.

  117. Michael says:

    Nice, you like rooting for the underdog.

    USA baby!!!! Where would this world be right now if it wasn’t for this place called the U S A! Wouldn’t even know what the internet was. Thank you USA for making this world a better place. The greatest minds are right here. They are given the freedom to explore what their mind is capable of. This is where creativity is born. Asians are taught that there is only one way to do something. They are not taught to have an opinion and to think outside the box. No imagination. So their entrepreneurs become efficient at ripping off American technology. Everything they have is a rip-off of USA creativity baby!!!

    Ben says:
    August 18, 2014 at 4:29 pm
    Put it this way, you have a choice of a surgeon from a Chinese school, Indian school, Caribbean school, basically any other country in the world, or an American school. Which one would you choose, and be honest. I’m choosing the American school graduate any day of the week.

    I’ll choose the one from the singapore school.

  118. Michael says:

    Go marry a thug!!

    joyce says:
    August 18, 2014 at 4:39 pm
    For all that are curious, the word race or racist has been mentioned 3 times today… all by the same person who is “fed up with this being about race.”

    Ctrl F … if you don’t believe me.

  119. jj says:

    Stop comparing race, but while I am talking about race, you know what you call a fat chinese person? A Chunk, how do you tell when an Indian Man grows up? they take the diaper off his butt and put it on his head,

    Michael says:

    August 18, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Thanks for pointing that out, rags.

    Put it this way, you have a choice of a surgeon from a Chinese school, Indian school, Caribbean school, basically any other country in the world, or an American school. Which one would you choose, and be honest. I’m choosing the American school graduate any day of the week.

  120. Michael says:

    121-forgot, they don’t get married. Let me re-phrase….go get knocked up by a “thug”

  121. joyce says:

    Wouldn’t it be easier for you to just stop talking about race if you want to stop talking about race?

  122. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    The store owner didn’t report the robbery at the time of the altercation. Maybe it’s me, but if I am a good enough shot to him someone in the arm a few times, why couldn’t I hit them in the leg or a body shot? And who charges a cop when they have the weapon pointed at them, I hope they are doing a toxicology report.

    And still don’t understand how a stop for jaywalking ends up with 6 shots being fired into him?

  123. jj says:

    other than this little blog this is a non even and no one cares. Tiny town some guy got shot by an over anxious cop.

    FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    August 18, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    The store owner didn’t report the robbery at the time of the altercation. Maybe it’s me, but if I am a good enough shot to him someone in the arm a few times, why couldn’t I hit them in the leg or a body shot? And who charges a cop when they have the weapon pointed at them, I hope they are doing a toxicology report.

    And still don’t understand how a stop for jaywalking ends up with 6 shots being fired into him?

  124. anon (the good one) says:

    minimum wage

    @GuardianUS: Raising a child in the US will cost you $245,000. And that’s BEFORE college http://t.co/VlDRQnGi6m

  125. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Ragnar – My daughter is about to start at Boston Latin. Take a look at the numbers, Asians and Whites make up 80% of the student population. Both groups representing triple their population percentages in the school district. All you need are good grades and a good score on the entrance exam. It’s free and open to all who can compete on those two metrics.

    http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/profiles/student.aspx?orgcode=00350560&orgtypecode=6&

    What student rankings would the US receive globally if they only counted whites and Asians?

  126. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    #126 @ JJ

    True in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter but I like to think logically and not spout emotional bs.

  127. Anon E. Moose says:

    FKA [125];

    And who charges a cop when they have the weapon pointed at them, I hope they are doing a toxicology report.

    Preliminary autopsy report on Brown already released — he had MJ in his system.

    Maybe it’s me, but if I am a good enough shot to him someone in the arm a few times, why couldn’t I hit them in the leg or a body shot?

    A firearm is deadly force, and only justified if the shooter is in fear for his life or the life of others. If the shooter only aims to wound, it could be used to show that he didn’t truly fear for his life; therefore he wasn’t justified in opening fire in the first place. Shoot to kill only.

    And still don’t understand how a stop for jaywalking ends up with 6 shots being fired into him?

    To me, the only shot that matters is the first one. If the first shot was justified, the shooter is justified in emptying his magazine (see above, deadly force meets deadly force). Maybe the target is recoiling from a shot to the arm; or maybe he’s winding up to throw a hammer at your head — you bet your life? Pull the trigger through until the target is down or the weapon clicks.

  128. Ben says:

    No imagination. So their entrepreneurs become efficient at ripping off American technology. Everything they have is a rip-off of USA creativity baby!!!

    Yet they’ve engineered a system in which every invention made in the USA instantly becomes their profit leading to the US being further in debt.

  129. Libturd at home says:

    Brown was stealing cigars. One need not perform a drug test to know he smoked jays. Heck, I’m sure 90% of the population of Ferguson did. And these progressive reporters goading the police just need to stop already. They are more transparent than Anon.

  130. Toxic Crayon says:

    Why do you hate black people? Can’t we all just get along?

    Ebola for Palestine says:
    August 18, 2014 at 4:03 pm
    toxic (96)-

    Go ahead. I don’t run that place anymore. The guy who does, though, lives upstairs and has a 30.06 under his bed and very little compassion.

    “There’s a “protest” planned for 3AM tonight at the liquor store in Jersey City.”

  131. anon (the good one) says:

    @billmaher:

    As i’ve mentioned on RealTime, police in Germany- the WHOLE COUNTRY – fired 89 shots in 2011, 49 were warning shots.
    Who’s the police state?

  132. Ragnar says:

    127,
    Cost of raising a child in the US is nearly nothing if you have no income. The government will pay you to breed them and neglect them, as long as you promise to send them to state run indoctrination camps and press the donkey button.

    I think it would be a great idea for minimum wage earners to start thinking about the high cost I pay in taxes to cover the expense of their children. In fact, I’m willing to contribute $100 personally toward Anon’s sterilization.

  133. homeboken says:

    anon – The police in Short Hills fired way less than 49 in 2011. Apt comparison right, let’s not worry about silly things like population #’s or anything else that gets in the way of moronic comparison.

  134. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    Ahhh I thought MJ makes you get the munchies but I don’t smoke it.

    So the first shot is what matters…its either no shot or empty the clip. I’ve heard that said before, seems like a waste of bullets if one or two well placed shots can put them down.

  135. Grim says:

    Do you think the Ferguson protesters studied Alinsky?

  136. Happy Renter says:

    [125] “And still don’t understand how a stop for jaywalking ends up with 6 shots being fired into him?”

    I still don’t understand why De’Marquise Elkins intentionally shot and killed a 13 month-old baby while robbing the child’s mother, but stuff happens, I guess.

  137. Grim says:

    Better call Saul

  138. joyce (124)-

    The trilobite known as michael can’t shut up at all. Typical troll.

    “Wouldn’t it be easier for you to just stop talking about race if you want to stop talking about race?”

  139. Toxic Crayon says:

    @ChuckCJohnson: Confirmed earlier report that #MichaelBrown had juvenile arrest record involving second degree murder… Working on getting report #Ferguson

  140. toxic (133)-

    I don’t hate black people. I actually like black people, as I was pretty much raised by them and had no white friends until I was 11 y/o. But, in the words of Chris Rock, I hate niggaz.

    I also feel the same way about dumb white trash.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/searchq=chris+rock+i+love+black+people&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=8BE404E9E3090E1CDE058BE404E9E3090E1CDE05

  141. Sorry, bad link. You can youtube the Chris Rock routine.

  142. ragnar (135)-

    Thanks for joining me in a call to sterilize anon. Sometimes, eugenics is the only answer.

  143. Toxic Crayon says:

    zellie @zellieimani
    Follow
    Jesse Jackson getting booed off for asking for donations for church. #Ferguson
    3:13 PM – 16 Aug 2014

  144. Toxic Crayon says:

    So, you just hate sarcasm then?

    Ebola for Palestine says:
    August 18, 2014 at 7:30 pm
    toxic (133)-

    I don’t hate black people. I actually like black people, as I was pretty much raised by them and had no white friends until I was 11 y/o. But, in the words of Chris Rock, I hate niggaz.

  145. I live in a swamp of bile and sarcasm.

  146. Toxic Crayon says:

    Reposted for dramatic effect.

    http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=836_1335759505

  147. Should be a fun night in Ferguson. Gubnor cancelled the curfew.

    Ubangis against the National Guard. Good times.

  148. Comrade Nom Deplume, a.k.a. Captain Justice says:

    Coming to NJ and other states near you . . .

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101927667

    Hope and Change.

  149. Michael says:

    People trying to call a top to this market are getting killed. If it looks obvious that the bull run is over and everyone thinks it’s going to end, it’s only fitting that the bull keeps roaring. Lol

  150. 3T4zbKKo says:

    324560 933652Most what i read online is trash and copy paste but i feel you offer something different. Maintain it like this. 865900

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